The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Hempsession Podcast, Oliver del Camino

Episode Date: August 17, 2019

Hempsession Podcast, Oliver del Camino

Hi folks, Chris Foss here from thechrissfossshow.com. Hey, welcome to another podcast. We certainly appreciate you guys tuning in. Be sure to refer to the show to your friends and subscribe to us on all the different channels that we have. You can go to thecvpn.com. This is going to be an interesting session. We're going to be talking to the creator of Hemp Session Podcast.

Now this is pretty interesting. He's one of the very first podcasts that have been acquired in the first 30 days of their launch because they were so hugely successful by a publicly traded company. So we're going to be talking with Oliver Del Camino of TheRealHempNews.com, and he's going to tell you his incredible story about how he launched this hemp CBD professional podcast and had this crazy amount of traffic from Google and the interwebs and everything else. So let's get into it and we'll introduce him now and bring him onto the show. So hey, welcome to the show, Oliver. So you guys are one of the first podcasts to ever be acquired by a public company in the first 30 days of launching and starting a podcast.

Holy crap. What am I doing wrong? How are you doing, Oliver? Oh, thanks so much, Chris. Actually, it's wild. I know. Totally wild. And we are completely, obviously, exuberant.

We can't believe it. This is incredible. However, it all happened because first of all, when I launched the podcast, it was just for fun and to get real information out to real consumers. Because one of the things is I specifically focus on hemp and cannabidiol because that's legal and it's recently has come to light as of last November. So I launched this podcast with the intent to basically disseminate really valuable information to the people who really want it. So I launched this podcast with the intent to basically disseminate really valuable information to the people who really want it. So those people, elderlies who don't know how to go about buying CBD oil that's effective, I give them in my podcast, the formula.

I disclose with all my listeners how to actually purchase real CBD and how they can tell whether it's real or not before they spend their money. So I have insight. That's awesome. So the hemp session podcast, where can they find that on the interwebs? Where can they look that up, websites and stuff like that? Well, they could just go to Google, put in one word hemp session, the obsession with hemp, and everything's going to pop up. You're going to get many, many pages of links. So you're going to find us on iHeartRadio. You'll find us on iTunes. Of course, we are on every platform. In addition, of course, like you, we're also on YouTube. And then we also have our own live 24-hour station, which is also the Hemp Station station and that's hosted on live 365 through our website on

the realhempnews.com awesome sauce and they can find you uh the realhempnews.com uh and uh so you you how long when did you start this let's just cover that right now so everything started on the last day of april This year, 2019. Alex Lightman, unwittingly, who is the number one writer right now, author on Amazon for cryptocurrency blockchain theory. And he's the inventor of 4G and the inventor of Google Glasses, just to give a little background.

Now, this guy, Alex Lightman, he poked me and he said, anybody and everybody who I know that is a real guy anywhere he basically said that you know you need to leverage YouTube or you need to leverage the power of podcasting and so he didn't realize unwittingly that he was poking a lion when he said that. So I immediately hung up the phone and three hours later, I put this up. And within three days, it was absolutely absurd what happened. I had so much traffic and so many leads coming in that I was just inundated and overwhelmed. Wow. Wow. It was pretty cool. That is crazy, dude. So, uh, so you guys, you guys got so much

traffic. It just went and did you do any advertising or you just, you just put it up and it came here is the funniest thing we did. I think I want to say maybe like a $20 daily budget. Oh, wow. And you bought Google AdWords or no. Here's the funniest thing. We did Snapchat biz. People don't even know it exists. And LinkedIn biz. LinkedIn is really the place. People don't know that. And of course, Facebook. So those three medium right there. And 20 bucks a month. 20 bucks a day. That was just unbelievable. So we spent 600 bucks and we got 72 million listeners and

crashing our website. It was hilarious. Wow, man. And then you guys also get shut down by Google because they're like, something's going on over here, right? Correct. And the funniest thing in this whole thing was that essentially it's all going through Google, right? So they're all connected. And so they could immediately verify. I mean, it took them five days to do the investigation after they shut our website down. And since then, of course, five days later, they did put it right back up, wrote us an apology Well, we certainly get that. All right. So it's anomaly. I'll grant you that. We think so too. We didn't think this was normal because we've never had results like this. The essentially what the intent really was so that if I put out good, valid information, we knew that we don't have to spend a lot of money if the right people find it, the right audience. So this is really, I targeted something and it was unintended consequence, which came with a lot more than

what I bargained for. I targeted a certain demographics. I ended up getting everybody because the word hemp is like number two after porn. Oh, wow. Is it really? Wow. I swear, man. Hemp, cannabis, and CBD, these are literally the biggest keywords aside from porn. Wow. Wow. Not a joke. Not a joke. I need to be watching more hemp podcasts or hemp stuff with my clothes off and late at night. I don't know what that means. That's a great mental picture there. Thank you for that. Sorry. Sorry. No, it's cool. It's unfortunate because you can see me on video, so that makes it worse. And it could be better.

You don't know. Oh, yeah. Something like that. It's all in the eye of the beholder. Yeah. So this is pretty wild. You create a podcast in April this year. On April 30th.

April 30th. The last day of April and on june 13th uh this is well of course i'm you may have been acquired before that i'm just reading the uh newswire global newswire that came out that was the acquisition yes that the news press came out i think the following day or two three days later but yes hqg HQG buys you guys out, basically acquires you. Correct, correct. That's awesome. What's incredible is that people in the podcast world, from what I understand,

I do follow a couple of different Facebook type of community groups that are all about fostering the environment. And so I've joined a couple of those small groups. We're talking like 2,500 members, nothing big, very small, intimate so that there's a lot of questions that can get answered immediately. And so what happens here is that you go and find out that pretty much nine out of 10 people are trying to do this. Today, podcasting is, yes, it is YouTubers. YouTube has taken away the algorithm has prevented people

from getting paid hence the reason you are seeing now so many suicides right people are killing themselves because their money is now has dried up effective correct in fact you've seen this right yeah yeah i used to i used to be able to make more than most people do as a living in America. Really? Yeah. The algorithm changed on me. They opened it up to where they let everybody, but they created an algorithm where the rich 10% got richer and the poor got poorer.

No matter how much DuPai put out racial stuff or Nazi stuff or anti-Jewish. Correct. Uh, Semitic stuff. They'd still reward him and just be like, yeah, just give him more money. I think Disney bail on them,

but you know, there's a couple other guys. I can't remember the other jerk who went to the suicide thing and he's had a, uh, it was the Paul brothers. Of course. I remember that. That was huge.

No matter how many times those guys screw up and you know the YouTube just keeps taking care of them yeah people like me they just throw to the front from the bus and it didn't used to be that way I mean I used to get great views and uh we I mean my channel has over 54 million minutes viewed and it's been on for 10 years and we still have people watching the videos from 10 years ago. We just review products. We're not on there snorting fucking cinnamon shit

and doing stupid stuff. I get it. It's kind of embarrassing. IQ. It's kind of embarrassing. People will write me now and be like why does your channel have like so many subscribers nothing's going on just uh just this week there was one of the first youtubers who was like the first guy to monetize youtube evidently

uh he's lost 96 of his viewer base and he just this isn't worth my time anymore i'm done um even years ago i bumped into a lot of youtubers at cs this is like three or four years ago and i'm like is your paycheck going down every month they're like yeah it's getting crazy and uh so yeah there's i mean podcasts is is really where it's at uh and uh it's very popular it's it's been it's been a nice little business i've been doing mine for a long time but uh um yeah it's it's very popular. It's been a nice little business. I've been doing mine for a long time, but yeah, it's really gotten awesome. You know what's so funny about that too

is that there's two more years left of actually being able to make anything on YouTube. 2021, they're going to stop the monetization altogether. Oh, are they really? The following year, I would probably bet that they're going to either start charging for posting or... So they're just going to go to a completely different model altogether, right?

Now, is that an announcement to end monetization? I miss that. There is no announcement, right? I'm sort of a futurist in some regard. I just see patterns, okay? I also see the market, the overall market and where everybody else is. I see where Facebook went. You can no longer, regardless of how many gazillions of followers you have, if you put up a post and you don't boost it, it does not get shared in spite of those people having opted into your feed. How does that make any logical sense here chris yeah i saw that coming for a long time i told people i said they're gonna eventually charge you for the stuff and people like no you're crazy man this is our thing we're building our audience i'm like they're gonna charge you and sure enough they did oh man where youtube is making most of their money now i

mean they just boosted youtube tv from $40 to $50 a month. And they're making a fucking killing on it. They're making a fucking killing on that and the back-end deals that they have with the TV networks and all that sort of shit. Correct, correct, correct. Which people don't know about. The public is just not privy to this,

so they don't really understand what's going on. They don't. And like I said, it's embarrassing. But I guess a lot of people are getting into podcasting. I've just always been. It's been an addition to everything we've always done. So you guys started this hemp. What made you start the Hemp Session Podcast?

What motivated you? Well, again, it was Alex Lightman who poked fun of me. And so that sort of like woke the line up in me. So was hemp or pot or CBD kind of like a big thing for you? What it is is that I'm big on the cannabis dial, huge on the research. I'm an investor. So what happens is I've been traveling the world and I've been in this for, you know, on the cannabis side, I've been in it since I was my youth in 18 years. So whatever that is, 25 plus years. So as far as the cannabis THC side, I'm pretty knowledgeable. Okay. And as far as the cannabis

dial, pretty knowledgeable too. And again, as an investor, I'm in all the projects. So I get to see things that regular people don't, again, once again, they're just not privy to this kind of data and information that's really happening research-wise. So I'm a very big investor. And that's where I provide my value to the audience is that I will take a news story and I will take the spin and I will translate it with real insight and tell them how to make sense of the news. One thing you mentioned to me is I'm not aware of much of a difference of CBD. I don't really do CBD oil. I've lived in Vegas where it's recreational, it's legal, so we don't do CBD. We do the real stuff.

You do the real stuff. That's cool. I know it's huge every place else where it's not legal I mean you know my mom was was taking CBD oil and right you know I mean it I think it helps in some small ways uh I don't really know I call it I always call it pot light but you were talking something about uh you were talking about and I'm not saying CBD is bad. I'm just saying the real THC stuff, it's, you know, you're just like, you know, someone offers you CBD. You're like, what?

Well, it's funny. And I think it is hilarious as far as the way you make it sound. And it is like that. The truth is a little bit different. Well, let's get into that. Let's get into that. What's the truth about CBD?

And I know there's so many people trying to offer it and so many people trying to come to market with it. Give us a breakdown on that. Well, the truth is most of it's fake. Oh, wow. It's synthetic. And nine out of ten, I test in labs. And this is where the real value comes from is that I actually do see the test results because we're the ones testing the stuff, right? So the truth in the skinny is this.

China has flooded us so bad. Really? Yes. So they're making like fake synthetic CBD? Correct. Synthetic. You got it. And I imagine it's not as effective or is it effective at all?

Exactly. No effectiveness whatsoever effectiveness so it's basically hundreds of dollars for a bottle and no kidding i faked out because they didn't know how to purchase it correctly i mean i've met people in other states or have friends in other states where pot isn't legal and they'll tell me how much they're paying for bottles of cbd and i'm like holy shit I could buy edibles cheaper than that. You're right. And again, that's, I mean, right now until it's just full blown legal, everything legal until then there'll be discrepancies. But the arbitrage is huge. The money, the money side, no one's talking about that. I'll break it down really quick. So you get

it. Okay. 350 billion is what the number is in terms of the legal arena. That means public. That means companies that are public. That's how we know where the money's coming from. When there are public companies, that's the only way we can measure the economic results. So one third of the companies today are public. Those are the legal entities. That's $350 billion total today. But because it's only one third, that means that two third is missing. So the real pie is a trillion and that's today. Now people are telling you it's going to be a hundred billion a few years from now. Nothing like that is the case. The case is it's a trillion dollars today. It immediately needs to be legalized because it's really hurting the legal people. You see,

the black market gets incentivized by all this. If you are a purchaser, you're not going to care whether it's legal or not. You're going to care about how much it costs. Wow. Or, I mean, what do you say, Chris? Yeah, I mean, it's really what it costs. That's logical, right? If you're a consumer and you're looking for meds, it comes down to cost and affordability. Now, quality is also a big thing there. So with the black market, the quality becomes a gray area.

However, that is not to say that most consumers don't know how to go and find a guy that's operating in the black market and still gives you quality stuff. It's there. Okay. So that's making a huge, huge dent right now. As a matter of fact, I'm sure you saw California went legal and there actually went down in revenue. So that was a big question mark for the rest of the world.

Like, wait, what happened here? Well, we know what happened. It's the illegal market that's directly responsible for that effect. Okay. So why is that? Are people, well, break it down for me. Why is... All right. So if I am, let's say a grower and I can do black market operation, I would certainly go that route. And here is the reason. I can set up shop in a day across from the legal entity, which I know has a lot of people going to it. So I've got guaranteed traffic. Now watch this.

I set up for next to nothing. I don't pay any taxes to the government. And I can undercut that guy by 30% day one across the street. Do you think that the consumer comes in since it's recreational, there's no licensing needed anyways? Do you think they're going to care that you're a black market operator or not? Well, we now know the answer is not because they're actually going across the street and buying it from the black market guys. Is that happening in Las Vegas and Nevada also?

Because I think they're all fully licensed, even though they're recreational. It's happening everywhere. I mean, Vegas may be a little different because you have that strip thing there. Okay, Vegas, it must be full disclosure, it's a freak of nature. You have an abundance of foot traffic, 24 hours. So first of all, it's abnormal in just the market itself because you have a 24-hour market there. And so it's not a fair comparison. All my friends in Vegas, you're right. They're making a million dollars a day and the guys in LA are only making a hundred grand a day to dispensers.

So there is a discrepancy yeah we usually have a line of tourists that are at the place and the nice thing about vegas you can have delivered to the house so that's everywhere now for the most part yeah you don't you don't go down there because the tourists are like there's like they have a whole fucking line for the tourists in vegas it's fucking crazy no i know i mean every time i stop in Vegas, my head spins and I'm just like, I really cannot believe that this is it. I mean, wow, it's progress. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. They still are working out the, you know, being able to smoke or take edibles on the property, which you know is taking place, but you can't be like just openly wandering around because they're still concerned about their federal licenses for

gambling and stuff. Right. And I understand that too. So I fully get that. And I'm sure that that kink is going to be worked out soon enough. One of the things that people don't know is that Trump is going to steal everyone's thunder and he's going to go ahead and legalize in 2020 October. At which point it becomes a game changer. You know, when he's joking around about being a third-termer, I know it's a joke. I get it.

But at the same time, if you're the guy that's responsible for igniting the global economy, that's going to carry a lot of weight when it comes to the voters. So let me ask you this. What indicators give you that he'd do that in October 2020? The indicators are that there are so many in Congress

that are bipartisan supporting it right now. And he's already fired Jeff Sessions when he went against the pot that you knew right then what's going on. Now, Pelosi's son is, of course, the number one marijuana advocate in America with a company called Freedom Leaf. I know these guys intimately. And so I'm pretty sure if Pelosi's son says that it's going to become legal because he's going to do it, I would take his word over most people just because I understand he's a lobbyist i know what

he does a lot of people don't want this to happen because they think that once again he would be stealing the thunder of 20 30 years of hard work of advocates i get it i really do well i know a lot of republicans i know a lot of republicans are coming uh back around the pot a lot of people are starting to open it i know there was some I think there were some bills or some discussion about bills. I know the old Speaker of the House, Boehner. Yeah, he's a huge investor. He's a huge investor and lobbyist for... Bannon.

I think the industry. What about Steve Bannon? He wants to build the wall from hempcrete. That's not a joke. Does he really? He looks like he's hempcte i don't know that guy needs a whole face read on i thought i was ugly holy shit that was funny man that's funny yeah that's just i'm just commenting on what he looks like he just he looks like he looks like a liver with cirrhosis on his face. Anyway, enough picking on poor Bannon.

So how do we know what the difference is between a good real CBD oil and fake? Because I'm really curious because I have a lot of people that are like, I take this and I've taken it sometimes. I'm like, I'll try some. And I'm like, I don't know what you gave me, but it doesn't. You feel nothing. If you feel nothing, that's the reason because you've been had. And the reason is they didn't give you a certificate of analysis.

So do you need to check their website for that when you buy it? How do you follow that if you're a consumer? If you're a consumer, when you walk into the store, ask them, do you have a COA? And they'll say, oh, you know, it's actually on the bottle. Or they'll say, oh, well, let us give it to you. Or nowadays, and this is the best one, is because they have a few that COA and they'll either text it to you. You can go to the site. They give you the links, but it has to be disclosed. If they cannot come up with a COA, a real COA, mind you, then you shouldn't buy that because chances are you are definitely not buying anything of substance, the cutting agents, all these things. All all right i'll give you a really specific example diamond cbd these guys claim they're the world's greatest and that they are you know therapeutic

and that they're medicinal the whole nine yards they make the claims well we did third-party testing their stuff had fentanyl in it and mercury. Holy shit. Now, last time I checked, no cannabidiol came with that. Yeah, mercury is kind of not good. Not good at all, but that's what you get out of China. Here's what they're doing.

They're buying the garbage and then they're diluting it because the pricing is where I really know the truth. Truth comes from the pricing when you get to the wholesale level. If a wholesaler tells you that I've got awesome isolate for you at $3,800 a kilo, that dude is selling you straight Chinese. No such thing exists because it costs a lab $2,500 to produce one kilo. Wow.

They're not going to make $1,300 on the kilo. It doesn't work that way. You'd be losing a lot of money that way because you have operation expenses. Your overhead is very large. Do you know how much a lab technician makes i have no idea if i tell you you're probably going to quit your job right now two hundred thousand dollars my friend all right i'm i'm out uh i'm just kidding i don't even know what a lab technician does but a lab technician takes the weed and turns it into isolate. That guy makes $200,000 for that a year. Sounds like an episode of Breaking Bad or something.

It's an incredible lucrative thing. Do you have to have an RV for this? I'm just kidding. You are right. The only thing I'm good at is wearing a lab coat. Does that count? I can wear a lab coat, put some pens in the pocket, so it looks like I can hold a clipboard.

That might be worth $100,000. So you want to ask for this certificate of authority. Of analysis, yes. Of analysis. If they can't produce one, then you tell them to bugger off. The one thing I'm seeing. I usually pull a Michael Jackson and we'll walk out of there yeah there you go uh the thing i'm seeing a lot is this uh mlming of of cbd oil have you i'm sure you've seen this uh i i got everybody coming to me

like hey do you want to be a cbd distributor uh no but you can make your herbal life model huh yeah it's the herbal life new skin whatever here's the funny thing about that is that i actually haven't dabbled because mlm is not where i'm at i just don't even i'm just wondering how authentic or or real it is if it's synthetic or crap it's chances are it's crap because you have to know the organization behind it and know the integrity behind the CEO and the board. I work with companies who are integrity driven that have real pedigree behind them where people are about the therapeutics only and they would never dabble in anything that wasn't real. So it costs us a lot of money to do testings, but that's the only way you're going to get to the truth.

And that's the only way you're going to get the real stuff. And that's how you heal people. Definitely. That's the real mission for us. I used to be a big drinker for most of my life. And I think I drank pretty heavily from the 30s on up to about 50. And it just got to a point where my body can't handle, you know, the drinking anymore. I noticed like three days, I'll notice a drag after a fun night. And you're just like,

it's just not, it's just not worth the trade off anymore. And, uh, then I switched to in my old day, I just switched to, uh, edibles. Um, and they're so great for pain. I have back issues sometimes. Sometimes I just have sleep issues where I can't sleep. And they're just, I always thought for a lot of years, I was, you know, people like, they're so great for pain.

I'm like, come on, man, you're just getting freaking high. But no, man, it really is. The thing is THC really does have, that is the real medicine. It really is. The thing is, THC really does have. That is the real medicine. It's amazing how it just affects your whole body. I guess your whole body, from what I understand, is filled with cannabis receptacles.

Is that what they call them? It's called the endocannabinoid system. I knew that. Every living organism has one. that's how we know that this is the real thing now it's very natural we wouldn't have found that if that you know this is the funny thing about that so you have all these hundreds of receptors and literally it means that if you put cannabinoids into your receptors you have all the medicine that you need.

The biggest thing that no one talks about, and I don't know why, is until the prohibition started, all food feed for livestock was hemp. That was it for eons. Now, that meant that people were consuming meat that had hemp in it, which means it already had the CBD in it. That's one of the reasons, in in part why we weren't so sick. We didn't have all the health. That's interesting. When you remove the medicine out of food, guess what you have left?

You just have food now, but it's no longer medicinal. So what I'm doing in Jamaica, for example, I have a small chicken farm. And so these guys are hemp fed. Okay. And I own a jerk center. So at the Dunn's River Falls over at Ocho Rios. Now what I'm doing right now is in the next few months, I'm going to start serving the hemp fed chicken.

And people are going to be writing reviews that you've never thought possible. Tear jerking kind of flavor. Yeah. You don't get high, but you do get your medicine from your food instantly because your endocannabinoid system is digesting it and breaking it down nice nothing synthetic here that's nice the you know it's it's interesting to me how much of a healer it is i was living on tylenol and just taking tons of acetaminophen, you know, Tylenol, which is just evil to your liver, man,

especially if you've been a drinker for a lot of years. I always had to be careful about, you know, making sure I don't take too much of that after. But if you're hungover, you kind of have to. And as soon as I started taking edibles and recreational pot in, I think it was June of last year that it became legal or maybe it was June before that. Maybe it was two Junes ago that became illegal,

illegal in Las Vegas. Um, and I literally quit drinking and I quit taking Tylenol. In fact, I went for months and then one day I walked into my bathroom and I opened up the medicine cabinet and i'm like oh wow there's a bottle of tylenol in there i'm like wow i've been in that bottle forever because i just bought and i'm like no wonder it's illegal because tylenol wants to be illegal because they

can't sell me tylenol if i'm taking that that's right now you're onto something there it always comes down to the money. So you're 100% accurate in that. We see the opioid crisis going on and basically these opioid drug companies were bigger than Chapo, man.

Oh my God. I always ask people, what's the difference between Big Pharma and drug dealers? There is no difference. Well, what's the difference between big pharma and drug dealers? There is no difference. Well, that's definitely true from what we've seen with the opiate. There is no difference. And, you know, the thing is I can be in pain and I can be hurting and I can maybe not be sleeping because I'm in pain, my back's out or something. And I can take about 20 or 30 grams of

milligrams or grams of edibles and I'll go to sleep like a baby. And then I'll, yeah, it's probably grams might be too much. I'll sleep like a baby and I'll be totally relaxed and I'll be at peace. And I have a lot of HDG and a lot of anxiety, you know, and all that sort of crap. And so I'll sleep like a baby. I'll be, I'll be in a world of peace. My mind will be settled and I can wake up and I feel like a new human being. I feel like I'm totally like, Hey, you've got your rest.

And as everyone knows, one of the reasons you sleep is so that your body can heal itself and rest from all the damage you've done to it. And so recently I moved to go into Utah to write a book and injured my back again, which is actually from an old move. And wow, man. I mean, it's just amazing how healing this stuff is where um you know normally you take a bunch i was living on tylenol for a while until i got back to vegas yeah the opioid crisis is so real i can't even believe you hit on that because one of the things we're doing our mission is of course to do exactly that so I'm already actually tied into this new thing out of Florida.

This guy named Mike, Mike, oh, his last name is skipping my head. I apologize for that. But so Mike, he's got this thing with the opiate awareness and he's literally has a bunch of centers now opening up. It's in Alabama. That's right. He's doing it in Alabama and I think maybe one location in Orlando. And it's all about anti-opioids. Anti-opioids, you know, bring in the people who have opioid addictions. Let's get them off that,

wane them off, and let's put them on the CBD alternative, which is non-toxic, right? Yeah. And price-wise, it's also better. Most definitely. You giving all your money to some big corporations somewhere no it's crazy but there's a lot of goodwill out there and that's great so you know i make sure that out of you know i take usually like 20 out of all my proceeds

and then i i give cbd oil to veterans with PTSD. Yeah. That's the one thing I always heard from veterans. We're always like, hey, this really helps with my PTSD. This really helps with my injuries. And I was always kind of like, okay, man, you fought for this country. If you want to get fucking high, all right, great. Why not? But I never really believe the pain thing. And so now whenever I talked about,

about somebody about pot or a CBD or, or, uh, you know, just, uh, edibles, legal stuff.

Um, I, I'm just like, no, really seriously. Like, like for years I meet in front of my pothead friends and I'm like, and they're like,

you should smoke pot. And I actually, one of my problems I actually have with my body is i have a high tolerance for everything including oh really including you yeah not for alcohol but for everything else i me too i'm like that yeah and so smoking pot really doesn't work for that well for me but edibles do like they get into my system with edibles that's great that's great uh but the just the pain healing and and being able to relax um and sometimes throughout the day i can just take like half of an edible about five milligrams and i can function i'm not really high

but i get kind of a piece i get that nice thing and i can actually really focus and do uh work i guess what you call it micro dosing maybe i don't know no absolutely it's just amazing it's just amazing and i and i wish more people would try it would embrace right legislators uh and just see see what it's like because once you try it a few times you're like okay this isn't you know and i i'm not addicted to it i don't have to have it i think i think there are people that have addictive personalities but you know let's be honest those guys are gonna addicted to you know to anything to anything i mean right that's the guy that gets addicted to gambling and loses

everything at the poker table it's the same guy that gets addicted to sex it's the same i mean what's all it's addiction is the same it's yeah it's addiction yeah it's not it's it's not a gateway drug i mean that's the biggest listen that that's been already you know obviously defamed as far as you know there's no facts behind any of that i never wanted to try alcohol just because i tried weed never and the and the thing is is like i've done some really stupid shit on alcohol and i think all of us have been there oh yeah and i don't and and there have been times where i've gotten in a car with the buzz and i shouldn't probably be in a car at the buzz i mean i try not to you know right do bad things and i don't want to get pulled over for dui it's like what they say you know buzz driving is kind of a dui and you've got to be careful

it is and so uh but you know when i'm when i take an edible i don't want to do anything i just want to go curl up in a ball and sleep like a baby and that's what i usually do you get anti-social from it huh yeah I you know at fortunately I don't I when I first started taking I started getting the munchies no yeah the greatest cuz right start eating everything you can but then you can learn to control it yes so now I mostly use it where I'll take it right before bed mm-hmm and I'll just sleep like a baby and I'll wake up like a brand-new if you want something that makes you feel incredible and no groggin I'll take it right before bed and I'll just sleep like a baby and I'll wake up like a brand new.

If you want something that makes you feel incredible and no grogginess the next day, like to give you the optimum sleep, then that would be a three to one CBD to THC ratio. So what you want to do is make a concoction for yourself with a three to one ratio of THC to CBD and you will have never slept better. And when you wake up, you get up and you feel incredible,

like a little kid. You feel so good. As long as we have you online, explain to us what, explain to listeners that are out there, because most of the nation isn't legal yet, what the difference is between CBD and THC and all that sort of good stuff so we can learn about this?

Sure. Well, cannabidiol is a cannabinoid. It's just one of the chemicals. THC is tetrahydrocannabinol, which has a bunch of them. The psychoactive ingredient is the delta-9. That's the only chemical that's responsible for people feeling euphoria in their head, the psychoactive part, right? What we get high off of. When you remove Delta-9, you have no high. So what happens is cannabidiol, there's a lot there's CD, there's CBG, there's CBN. There is a huge plethora of CB stuff, of cannabinoids, as they're known.

So we're just starting to really get to that. It looks like CBN appears to be the one that's going to be the cancer healing cannabinoid. So if you want to heal cancer, that's like about a $60,000 per kilo price. It's one of the most expensive ones. The reason is because you only have so much on the spectrum. So you need a lot more plant material to process into the same kilo that you would if you just did CBD by itself. CBN is a lot less on the plant than CBD. Now, they are going to start breeding them to where they're clearly going to be the richest on the spectrum for CBN. Then there will be the CBG strains. Oh, it's coming now. So that's what Israel's working on as we're speaking.

It's going to be kind of interesting. I mean, you had Canada just went legal just nationwide. It's insane. When they went legal and California went legal, like for a while there, Vegas was legal, Nevada was legal ahead of California when it came to recreational because I think we just went right to recreational. Right did smart by the way yeah and then um uh so i think we were recreational before california and it was pretty cool and then all of a sudden california went

recreational and and uh a lot of the stocks dried up it got really hard for me to get some of my favorite stuff and then canada came online it got really hard for me to get some of my favorite stuff. And then Canada came online and it got even harder for me to get some of my stuff. So do you see a lot of investment opportunities for like more growers and stuff? I mean, if we become a legalized nation for pot, we were needing a lot more farms, right? Well, it's happening. It's happening at such a rapacious pace. People aren't aware, but under the radar, it's absolutely absurd. The companies responsible for giving you the logistics so you can grow, those guys are making killings like you've never seen. So it's all those guys that make the warehouses, the guys providing the trays, all of the logistics

for you to grow. Those guys are making insane money. If you are a small investor, all you have to do is look at the charts in November of last year. You'll see that in the first two weeks of November, stocks went up 50,000% in some cases. That's 50,000% in a two-week span. Now, what's happening is the announcement came, I think about two weeks ago, that they're going to go ahead, Congress is going to allow what they're going to call the pot investment run, test run. I don't know if you

heard of this. And what's happening is September 1st, they're going to flood the markets with institutional investment dollars that's going to be American cannabis companies. So they're going to allow the likes of the big institutions that are doing the big investments. They're going to allow those guys to take $340 billion and invest into American cannabis companies. Holy crap. How do we translate that? Quite simply, it means that you need to have whatever stock you feel good about before September 1st, then close your eyes and open your eyes again in the next week or two. Because if you pick the right horse, you're going to be wealthier than anything you could imagine.

I had a case in point. I had a case in point, I have a friend in Canada, Vancouver, British Columbia. He was a postman, like delivering post, mailman. He didn't have a lot of money. He put away $2,000. And he did that February of 18. Okay. He cashed out at the end of the year off of the two thousand dollars how much do you think he cashed out i have no idea how much 1.1 million dollars crap wow that's never put a dime on top of the two grand all he did was put the 2 000 investment on the ride horse and $1.1 million it became in 10 months. Now, that's going to happen in two weeks, not 10 months this time around. And it's going to happen because last time it was 40 billion that came into the market. This is 340 billion in one day.

Wow. So how does it work? Here's how it works in short. When you buy a stock and there is this thing called the float, that's what gets traded. The float on any given company either turns once a month, once a week, or maybe once a day. It just depends on how popular a stock is. On the big days, when this money's going to come in, the right company, you're going to see the stock flow turn multiple times every day. That's happening. That's creating such a demand that all it can do is just keep going up precipitously, exponentially. And so what ends up happening is a cent becomes 10 cents, a 10 cents becomes a dollar, and a dollar becomes $10. And all this in a five-day span.

That's awesome, Sauce. That's awesome. It's so awesome. But that's not going to happen to a company that's got 5 billion shares outstanding in the flow. So you guys want to get the real information? I'm going to give you something that's worth a million dollars. Not even Tony Robbins is going to do this for you. Are you ready? Marijuanaindex.com.

I'm not going to say it again. Marijuanaindex.com. Not saying it again. Not doing it again. I just made a millionaire out of your listeners, at least one. I'm pulling it up right now. All right. So 48 out of, there's 48 marijuana stocks in the US. All right. Those are all on there. And now I gave you the tool so you can ascertain before I give you something that becomes what we call insider information. If I give you something

and it's insider information, you cannot make a trade on that for four days. That's how the law works. But by me giving you where the data is, that's totally cool. So I'm not crossing any lines. Okay. That's just so you understand. And it's a little education for the investor out there nice and it's very simple guys you don't need ten thousand dollars you just need a hundred bucks put a hundred bucks on a horse by the way we all lose a hundred dollars by going to starbucks and anywhere else like we're gonna do that every that every month. Some people do that every day. Thank you. I don't need to hear your $100 is going to hurt you.

Just put it on a horse. You're not going to lose it. In the worst case, you're just not going to make $100,000 on it in a couple of days. That's all. You're not going to lose it unless you just picked the very wrong horse. It was $100.

$100. Do you recommend buying the index or in the individual companies? I would say individual companies, although the index is not bad, you will do fine on the index. You're not getting 50,000% though. That's what you have to understand. The index means that it's giving you the bad and the good. So if you have the ability to nail the one good, then you can bypass the bad altogether. I'm not saying don't do the index. That's like, you know, put a thousand bucks on it because you know that's 100% safe, right? It's just not going to grow anywhere near with the potential of a small float. So this is how you can really use the knowledge. And by the way, if a company is projecting that they're going to be doing 10 times more

for their revenue next quarter, that's probably a pretty good buy signal. That's a reason to buy something. You got to just look at what's going on and let them tell you. They're going to tell you where their revenue projections are. And when somebody says, you know, we're doing tenfold next quarter and a hundredfold by the following quarter. Okay. So then you want to take a look at that and maybe do a little microscoping on that because you might have a very good shot. Nice.

Looks like there's a few different companies they have rated on their index trends and stuff. Oh, yes. What are some other good ways people can find good stocks other than listening to your podcast? I mean, imagine that's the most important thing is people should be listening to your podcast and checking out Hemp Session Podcast so they can learn all the best ways to invest in stock and everything else when it comes down to the business, right? That's right. Get that plug. We like to disclose the stuff that people need to know.

That way they are armed with the facts. This is a very gray area. It's a very gray market today. So I want to make sure it's not. So what can people learn when they go to your podcast list, tune in to the podcast, subscribe, all that good stuff? Well, what they learn is if they listen to all the episodes from episode one, they're going to be probably the smartest guy in most rooms when it comes to this.

Just because all the episodes we have up already thus far, we have covered such a wide range of topics in depth that people will get it. I break it down. And like I told you about the Diamond CBD, for example, we broke that one down. I broke it down on that episode really hard. And so I did that because I wasn't the only third-party verifier on that one. And so I had so much ammunition. It was actually in the news. Now when it's in the news, my friend, that's bad. You don't want to be associated with actual news that's out there online. It's different when somebody, the radio covers it and it's talking, but once it's transcribed in the news, written

and printed, oh, that could become really, really serious. There's a lot more liability there. Oh, so it just becomes too. They say, look, you wrote this and this was so that that means that they caught you red handed. You know, it's it's it's conclusive. Oh, we have the evidence because you wrote it and you said you have the best turns out every lab says you got fentanyl and mercury oh boy right so this is what i mean yeah okay it's crazy yeah it definitely is so uh you've

got the podcast it's it's kicking butt you've been acquired by hg i'm sorry hqge hq global education uh and uh that's pretty awesome man i mean i didn't realize hemp was this hot i knew hemp and pot was hot but uh oh man i knew so hot um so hot right now and i think it's just gonna keep getting hotter as we get to where we're legalized. Hemp is the new cannabis. Did you know in Texas, because of the loophole, you think you're buying cannabis on the street? You're actually buying hemp. Do you know why? Why? Because the guy that's selling it to you, when the cop pulls up on him, he says, you're a drug dealer.

He says, sir, I got a COA. It's hemp. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Hemp is the new cannabis, guys. So here's what happened. By them classifying hemp legal, by giving you the loophole of the single chemical, the cannabidiol, which was, by the way, that was a racket, just so that they could make a $50,000 medication called Epidiolex. That's what that was about. And that was GW Pharmaceuticals. They directly benefited from that. That was their lobbying effort. What they didn't know was that by legalizing hemp

and giving you a three-tenths of a percent threshold for THC allotment, that inadvertently, this is how amazing this game is, it inadvertently legalized cannabis de facto right then. Every state is now coming undone and saying, we're no longer pressing charges for weed. we're no law like they're just like saying step down step down because if it's not weed we're screwed and they're saying people are legitimately now shipping hemp and there's so much of it that it it we don't know what the numbers are it could be half and half and it could be you know five to one i don't know but they don't want to take the chance in florida most of the counties have stepped down you know south to one i don't know but they don't want to take the chance in florida most of the

counties have stepped down you know south florida and specifically because you have so much medical cannabis now drive-thrus at miami international airport man you could get off a plane get in your rental car and drive right through at the airport if by green leaf it is i don't understand when did florida become progressive yeah no kidding no kidding i know new york quit doing arrests and prosecutions for stuff a lot of states so this is why the trump has really all the ammunition now he sees this he's not dumb his advisors are like hey you guys realize this stuff's legal, right? All we got to do is tell everybody now that it's actually federal legal. But it is.

That's what's happened here. It's a de facto legalization. And already Texas is doing it and Florida is doing it. They're actually in the news touting that they're no longer actually pulling people over for the ganja smell. They're saying if you pull over and we smell it, that's not going to be the probable cause anymore. Wow.

That's pretty great. That's progress. I'm not saying that, you know, if you're black, that they're not going to mess with you. This is still America, guys. That's a whole other ballgame. It's still America. Problems.

But yeah, if Texas and Florida were to legalize and or New York, I think New York was close to legalizing, but they had some BS with some legislators that they wanted some of their special whatever. And they just ran out of time, evidently, with the legislative session. Otherwise, I believe New York would be legal right now, correctly, with the immigration? Right. Well, they're so lax up in york that it might as well be at this point but it is coming uh yeah you're right it was defeated just uh whatever that was like last month or the month it was really narrow and it was just literally they just ran out of time for their legislative

sessions and stuff otherwise it would have gotten done i i think so and i think the governor was being a jerk about something, some sort of special thing that they wanted. No, I'm confident on that one. New York, you already know I'm confident. Obviously, they're going to do it regardless. I'd want to be high if I lived in New York. Jesus Christ, have you seen that? I was going to say, you know what I mean?

I was going to say the same thing. How do you live there without me? Seriously, seriously. Have you seen the real estate the prices and oh my god you get for it i mean i'd be like when i come home to my little closet every night i'd be like yeah i'm getting i screw this that or when i'm walking around and people are assholes on the street every time i go to york all i see is the garbage out on the street and just the smell of it between the urine. It's like,

how do people enjoy this experience again? I, you know, Chris, you and I are cut from the same cloth because I asked that every time. Oh, just like, how is this fun?

Yeah. How, this is Manhattan. What about all these four rent signs everywhere on all these big, beautiful storefronts? Like what? I see people who are like, yeah, I don't have an oven in my closet that I pay $200,000 a year for, but I have a little induction burner. You're like, wow, man, that's living high.

But I'm living in New York. Well, one step away from homeless. Yes. Just living. Right know i lived in california in a way yeah i lived in california for a lot of years and i finally just got tired of it i'm like i can move to vegas and buy a fucking mansion for what i pay for a shitty old you know broken down 1950s home and i i totally regret not investing into vegas uh in this last crash that was incredible the thing people don't know right in south florida and i don't know why the news didn't cover this i had friends that bought condos that were selling for you know 250 plus before the crash for one thousand dollars with a clear title.

That was all over here. We had a lot of those. Intercoastal had like older condos that were going for five grand. Those were all steals. Steal, steal, steal. You can't buy a car for that. Yeah, it was crazy. When I moved back to Vegas, I moved into a home that this giant attorney pool firm, they'd taken and bought all these properties from the HOAs because they held these bankrupt properties.

And the HOAs in Las Vegas have first position on the title, technically. Yeah, they do. It's pretty crazy. And so they went all the way to the Supreme Court. They were able to own these properties and bring them back through the through the thing and not have to pay the first and second lien holders which were the banks the banks were pissed um but that's the way vegas works the hoas have technically first position uh on the properties and if you don't pay your HOA fees, they can force foreclosure on top of the banks.

Yeah, they do the same in Florida and Texas, actually. That's the same thing there. Same racket. You're right. It's very scary because when they do it to veterans or active military members, that's heartless stuff. And it happens. So people can log into your thing.

They can find it on iTunes. You're on all the different syndication places for your podcast. Hemp Session Podcast, folks. You can go to therealhempnews.com. And you can listen to Oliver Del Camino. They give you all the good details on all the stuff there. Anything more we need to know about uh the podcast and how to tune in all the good stuff that's it i mean really facebook is huge we've got like 106 7 000

followers again that's all happened just since we've been up since may probably the facebook started in june really wow man so you've got facebook.com forward slash hemp podcast there's twitter real hemp session and then on instagram you've got hemp session as well and people can follow over there that's pretty awesome so this has been pretty eye-opening and if you want to learn a whole lot more about what's going on it whether you're an investor whether you're a recreational user whether you want to understand the industry where it's going what the future is of the industry and hopefully the full legalization of pot that would be just nice i would i would like to be able to tour this country without having to worry and holy crap yeah you guys do have 106 000 people

following you on the freaking facebook page that is crazy man no we get followers we get love letters i get phone calls like 24 7 from all over the world about this stuff. That's awesome. Yeah. And very notable people too. I mean, I'm going to be at the red carpet at MTV Music Awards. So you guys might want to tune in for that on the 26th of August. That's in 10 days.

Are you going to hand out CBD oil or something? Well, I'll probably talk to Drake about some of that. And then we're going to put that on the red carpet and just kind of bring it out to everybody. Yeah, there you go to drake about some of that and then we're gonna put that on the red carpet and just kind of bring it out to everybody yeah there you go he might have heard that i don't know i'll be jamaica tomorrow doing a lot of stuff down there but then in the following week again so i'll be doing that that's gonna be really exciting today i'm i believe it or not i was invited tomorrow to uh New Kids on the Block birthday. I'm actually supposed to not even be in Jamaica tomorrow.

I'm supposed to be in Chicago with New Kids on the Block. Donnie Wahlberg, it's his birthday tomorrow. There you go. They called me up on hemp session. They said, please come on up here and do your thing. And I accepted. And I'm like, wait, I'm in Jamaica. No.

Dude, that's awesome. I mean, you guys are really blowing it up for just a very short time for being in a podcast and stuff. That is just crazy. What am I doing? I'm doing like a normal business podcast. I'm in the wrong business. It's all luck. It's all luck.

Do you know what I mean? It's just luck. Well, it's definitely, I mean, like you said, it's a high searchable item and stuff like that. This is it. I mean, honestly, this is is the most and because of it google i know why they shut us down you see what happened was that they didn't tell us that people don't kind of read into but i happen to know the google how they work on the inside as a company they're trying to take over the hemp because they actually are very vested in the hemp world and the

cannabis world these guys i don't know if it's billions they've invested, but for sure, lots and lots of millions, tens of millions. So what happens is because of that, they're going to make sure that they're in control of those keywords. You know that Google is a major culprit in blacklisting keywords and blacklisting companies from keywords so do not for a second think that they that this is a conspiracy theory this is just how they work facebook's been indicted for the same thing they all do it i mean you can't put cbd up on facebook they'll take it down i could put hemp i could put cannabis but i can't put CBD. It's really weird. Wow.

Yeah. It'll probably eventually come around, but it's a big fight over who can make money off of what and who can make money. Right. Basically. That's all it is. It's just a money thing right now. That's awesome. Well, thanks for being on the show.

We certainly appreciate it, Oliver. Be sure to go to his website, therealhempnews.com. You can also find him, of course, on all the different podcast places, Hemp Session Podcast. It looks like it's doing really awesome. You get the inside scoop on everything that's going on. And thanks for being on the show. We certainly appreciate it, Oliver. Chris, it was such a pleasure. If you don't mind, I would love to do a shout out real quick to Ron at HQGE for doing such an amazing job. And also Ray and Clinton Grayling. They are our best sponsors ever.

And of course the Chris Voss show. We love you. Yeah. Thanks for having us on. We'll look forward to posting on your guys' thing and all that good stuff and just rocking, kicking, kicking butt and growing there.

And hopefully the whole nation will go legal. It's coming brother. It's coming. Get ready. I can't wait. All right, well, thanks for my audience for tuning in. We'll see you guys next time. Really appreciate it.

Bye-bye. Bye-bye.