The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – How To Create Lifetime Cashflow Through Multifamily Properties by Rod Khleif

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

How To Create Lifetime Cashflow Through Multifamily Properties by Rod Khleif Rodkhleif.com Lcfabook.com Rod Khleif is host of the number #1 ranked real estate podcast on iTunes, "Lifetime Cash Flow" which has been downloaded 13 million times. Rod is a seasoned and passionate real estate investor who has personally owned and managed over 2000 properties. Rod has combined his passion for real estate investing with his personal philosophies of self-actualization, goal setting, envisioning, and manifesting success to become one of America’s top real estate investment professionals. This 200+ page book is the essential textbook for aspiring multifamily real estate investors. It carefully outlines why the rules of real estate investing have changed forever. The book offers a step-by-step approach to the exciting and lucrative business of multifamily real estate investing. HERE IS WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: How to find the money for your apartment purchases The four best areas to buy in and how to quickly evaluate an area How to find the best off-market deals How to identify a great deal How to evaluate a property How to convince sellers to give you seller financing How to find investors for your deals and syndicate to buy larger properties Scripts for talking to sellers, brokers, investors and lenders How to perform comprehensive due diligence to protect yourself The mistakes to avoid How to systemize your business and turn it into a machine Follow the advice in this book and take action to find hot markets, hot properties, and close on hot deals.

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Today, an amazing young man. Today, we're talking about his book. his amazing podcast and a whole mess of other great stuff he's working on and to help make the world smarter, better, and richer. And if you don't like being smarter and better richer, well, then damn it, go listen to, I don't know, go listen to that guy's podcast on Spotify, who has all the nuts on. Anyway, guys, I'm just teasing. He, Rod Khalif, joins us. He is a multi-business owner and philanthropist who is passionate about business, high performance, real estate and giving back.

One of the country's top real estate and peak performance luminaries, he has owned over 2,000 properties. He soared from humble beginnings as a young, impoverished Dutch immigrant to incredible success. His experience involves both remarkable triumphs and spectacular failures, which he effectively calls seminars. Interesting. Rod will explain to us the mindset required to recover from losing $50 million in the crash of 2008, the success he enjoys today.

Rod brings incredible authenticity and insight to his approach to real estate, mindset, success in life, and all that great stuff. He also founded the Tiny Hands Foundation, there's a joke there, but I'm not going to tell it, which has benefit more than 130,000 children in need. It probably doesn't do with politics. But welcome the show, Rod, how are you? It does not have to do with politics.

Now, actually, that bio is, dated my god it was painful to listen to that but oh wow you know i appreciate you having me on brother and uh yeah no we feed families for the holidays and we give backpacks with school supplies to local kids and yeah no it's it's a lot of fun but uh now let's have some fun brother let's do it and uh yeah just uh update your executive assistant on that you're exactly exactly it's 150 000 but you know who's who's counting yeah well you're growing so fast evidently you know right Maybe this was sent to us on September 16th, this bio, so you've gone $10,000 up in the meantime. It's amazing how fast things grow.

But, yeah, no, it's fun to be here, brother. And I love your, I love your intro video. Keep your hands and arms in the vehicle. I love that. We are a force majeure. And you also wrote the book, I want to plug, how to create lifetime cash flow through multifamily properties, 90-day action plan included. We'll get into some of the details.

Yeah, thank you. Give us a 30,000 overview of who you. are and what you do in your words. Yeah. So, yeah, that book is something I wrote out of necessity because I never planned to teach it. You know, I started my podcast. I don't know, about nine years ago. I'm blessed to say it's the largest commercial real estate podcast in the world by far. And, you know, I kept, I used to tell people early on, you know, episodes that I'll never sell you anything. I just want to add value. Now I'm a liar because I sell everything. I have courses, coaching, boot camps and everything. But I never intended to. You know, you want to make God laugh.

you tell them your plans but anyway so i'm a dutch immigrant like you said on my bio i immigrated from the netherlands you know wooden shoes and windmills when my when i was six years old with my brother albert my mother's vansha we ended up in denver colorado didn't have much uh you know wore clothes from the goodwill ate uh you know drank powdered milk with our cereal in the morning because it was cheaper than real milk and trust me it sounds better than it is and you know really struggled initially luckily though my mom had an incredible work ethic so she babysat kids so we'd have enough money to eat. And with her babysitting money, she invested in the stock market successfully, but she also invested in real estate. Her first real estate acquisition was the house right across

the street from us. She bought when I was about 14 for 30 grand. Then when I was 17, she told me she'd made $20,000 in her sleep that had gone up in value $20,000. And I'm like, what? This was when $20,000 was a lot of money. Yeah. I was saying, you made $20,000. You didn't do anything? Screw college. I'm getting into real estate. So I went and got my real estate broker's license, which you could do back then with education. Now they got smart to be a broker. You have to have some experience. But I was a real estate broker

and I was going to be rich in real estate. Well, I was still living at home. My first year in real estate I made about $8,000. My second year, maybe $10,000. But my third year, I made over $100,000, which back in 1980 was some pretty decent change. And so what happened between year two and your three that caused me to $10 my income?

Well, what happened was I met a guy. I went and worked for this broker, and I was dating his daughter, which was helpful as well. And he taught me about the importance of mindset and psychology. And I really, you know, 80 to 90% of your success in anything is your mindset and psychology. Only 10 to 20% is the mechanical stuff we talk about on our podcast. You know, mine, I talk about real estate, commercial real estate. But, you know, fast forward to today, I've owned over 2,000 houses that I rented long term.

I own thousands of apartment units now. I'm actually getting into senior housing, you know, assisted living facilities. It closed on my first one six weeks ago. But, you know, in 2006, my net worth went up $17 million while I slept. Wow. And I'm just going to say, you might say, wow, I said, wow. And I got a head so big I could barely fit it through a door. You know, I thought I was a real estate God.

And you know, when that happens, God of the University, nice little smack. Well, that was 2008 and 9. Like you mentioned, I lost $50 million in that crash conservatively. And so what I'm known for talking about on my show and at my boot camps and whatnot is really the mindset it took to have 50 million to lose in the first place, but maybe more importantly, the mindset it took to recover from losing that. And so, you know, would love to drill down on some of those strategies with you and see if you've got some value to your peeps today. Definitely. Let's get into it. And now, some of these, I wanted to promote this off the get-go, this live multifamily

bootcap, are a lot of these strategies in that boot camp? Well, sure. I mean, I spend a lot of time on mindset-related strategies. So I've got an event coming up in, in L.A., in January, the 23rd, 24th, and 25th. And it's three days of training. It's not a big sales pitch. I mean, it's soup to nuts, how to buy apartment complexes. And just to brag for a minute, my students, they're called my warriors, my coaching students, they own somewhere upwards of, somewhere between 185 and 200,000 units under my tutelage, something I'm very proud of. And as well as every other type of commercial real estate, senior housing, self-storage, student housing, you know, mobile home parks, industrial flex space, you name it. And so, you know, if someone's

interested in real estate, get your ass to that boot camp. It's January 23rd, 24th, 25th. The price is ridiculously reasonable. It's less than a price of a nice meal. And, you know, it's not a big sales pitch. But, but anyway, so, so yeah, that's, and I spend time on mindset. That's the reason my students are so successful. And, you know, if you do end up coming to the event, you'll leave so freaking motivated you'll be coming out of your skin because uh because i spent time on that and like i said you know the reason that my show my podcast has been so successful is people don't remember what you said but they remember how you made them feel and you know and people like to think about mindset related strategies and and you know and that and you know that's that's the stuff that you know

that's how i recovered from losing 50 million dollars and how i had it to lose in the first place and you know was was focusing on some some simple strategies and maybe not so simple but but some of them certainly are you know like figuring out exactly what it is you want you know it starts with goals chris you know you know you've got to create that burning desire or that hunger to push through fear to actually take action with what you want so if you come to my boot camp the first hour and a half is goal setting on steroids because again how do you get anything you don't know what the heck it is and so it starts with that and and you got to want it and you know because everybody gets locked up in fear or, you know, what we achievers call stress and to push through

it, you've got to figure out what it is you want. So, yeah, so that starts there. And if you're not interested in real estate and you're listening, I do a goal setting workshop. You know, here's a sad reality. People spend more time planning a freaking Christmas party than they do designing their lives. That's designing your life, doing your goals. And so if you go to my link tree, it's rodslinks.com, like rodsplural, linksplural.com. There's my, at the bottom of that, it's my goal setting workshop. I'm not going to try to sell you anything. Watch it. Have your kids watch it. If your spouse watch it, there's a guide you can download to fill out and design your life. And so that's on my link tree. My boot camp site is also there as well as a lot of a bunch of

free resources. This book actually, my number one bestselling book is there and you pay the shipping. It's like six bucks or something and you get that ship to you. And by the way, people say, oh yeah, well, you're making money selling it for six bucks. Now it cost me about $30 to ship it to you, FYI, for those you that are going to hate on me for that. But anyway, so, but yeah, rodslinks.com is a bunch of free resources if you're interested in real estate. But again, it starts with goals. And that's the first thing we do at my boot camps is we do goal setting. And that's the first thing I, you know, if you're listening and you haven't taken action on your dreams, you know, you deserve more. You want time, freedom, money freedom,

you know, all these freedoms that you don't have. You know, it starts with figuring out exactly what it as you want. You've got to pick your vehicle. And I think there's incredible opportunity coming with what's happening economically in this country. I know in my space there is. There's a lot of deals that are in trouble because the interest rates. So if there was ever a time to get into this business, it's right now. But once you know what you want, you got to make a decision, Chris, and you know this. And that's what I did. You know, when I lost everything, I reassociated with my goals. And then I decided, okay, enough is enough. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. And what I mean by decision is, I don't mean you dip your toe in the water. I mean, you know, you, you, you know,

you're committed. You're fully committed. And, and there's no like escape path for your decision. You're, then you're like a train on a track. If you're not committed, you're going to get knocked off track. And, you know, motivation will get you started, but that commitment's what's going to bring you home. And so, you know, you make a decision. And the Latin root for the word decision means to cut off. So a great analogy for that would be if you're going to attack the island in battle, you burn your ships because you're taking their damn ships home. You know, you're committed. It's freaking, it's freaking done, right? I love that idea. Yeah, so once you made that decision, then you got to take the first step. And, you know, Dr. Martin Luther King said,

you take that first step in faith, the next step will be revealed. You know, Lao Tzu said the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. But, you know, sometimes the most important decision in your life is to take that step, you know, and I would tell you, you know, a lot of people fear failure. Don't fear failure. Fear regret. Fear being in the same place you are right now, one or two years from now, unless you freaking love where you are right now. There was this nurse in Australia, Chris, named Bronny Ware. She was a hospice nurse. So she took care of patients when they were about to die. And she asked him a question. And the question was, do you have any regrets? And she wrote a book. It's like a bestseller, something like the five regrets of dying.

And you know what the number one regret was? It was not living the life I could have lived. living someone else's life, not doing what I know I'm capable of, fear that. Don't fear failure. You know, you fail your way to say, I call my failure seminars. That was a $50 million seminar, okay? It was a big one. Okay, don't get me wrong. It hurt. But, you know, it's only a failure if you don't get your ass back up or you don't get the lesson, you know. And I've had, everybody's had numerous seminars. And, you know, you got, but you got to make that decision and take that first step. And, you know, remember this. If you're analytical, for example, And you're some of the most successful people in my business because, you know, this business, the business that I'm in commercial real estate is primarily numbers. It's empirical. And so, you know, if you're analytical, you know how you have to check off every box before you make a move. Well, listen, you can't do that. You've got to, you can't see the whole path. You've just got to take that first step and recognize that this life's not a dress rehearsal because you don't want those regrets. And just remember this analogy. You can drive all the way across the United States at night with your headlight only seeing like 50 feet.

in front of you and you know you can make it you know other people have made it before you you may have some obstacles it's the same way with my business or any business you get into but you got to take that first step you know and i'll tell you a funny story chris when i immigrated and this speaks to fear and limiting beliefs when i immigrated i didn't speak english and i got thrown into school and i found out what bullies were for the first time so i got my ass kicked occasionally and then my mom in fact i think i've got them right here then my mom thought it'd be a great idea to send me to school in these wooden shoes and these oh yeah and then these leather shorts the germans wear for october oh yeah crack cocaine serving beards beer yeah so yeah so i got my

ass kicked again you know and and and then you know bullies would chase me home and she chased them off of the fly swatter so next day has been and and and i came up with this belief system that i wasn't good enough you know i used to ask myself how could i show them i'm good enough which of course, presupposed that I didn't believe I was. And, you know, a lot of people have these limiting beliefs. You know, I'm not smart enough. I'm too, I'm not old enough. I'm not young enough. I, you know, I don't have enough money. I don't have enough time. And just, if you have one of these that you're consciously aware of, these limiting beliefs, remember that there's a reason the acronym for belief systems is BS, because 99% of them are BS. But we believe they're real.

And so they impact our entire life. And so if you've got one of these, drag it out into the daylight, look at it with your adult rational mind and recognize that it's BS. You know, I used to be afraid to raise my hand in front of 10 kids in a classroom, and now I speak in front of thousands a year in flip-flops. You know, I'm becoming more and more free from the opinion of others, and it's because I looked at it and recognized that, you know, anybody that, you know, didn't care about me just didn't know me. And so, you know, if you've got one of these, that's what you need to do. A couple of other things that I'll mention real quick. One of them is focus. You know, know, the most successful people on the planet have the highest degree of focus. You know, you look

at Bezos, you look at Musk, you look at people like that. See, where focus goes, energy flows. An incredible focus equals incredible success. Here's the problem, though. Whatever you focus on gets bigger, both positive or negative. You know, I'll get people call me and say, you know, how do I get out of student loan debt? I'm right wrong question. How do you make so much money? The debt's irrelevance, the right question. You know, they asked Mother Teresa if she was anti-war. She said, no, I'm pro peace, you know? I mean, you see what I'm saying? It's focus. And, you know, you know, I listen to, I listen to two podcasts. My podcast is about 30 million downloads, which for a podcast doesn't sound like much, but it's not bad. But, you know, I listen to two

podcasts. I listen to Joe Rogan, who I think you were just joking about a minute ago. And I, and I listened to Tim Ferriss. And I tried to get both sides of the aisle. I'm definitely on one side. We won't talk politics here. But, but, you know, on Tim Ferriss's show, fascinating conversation. And there's a message in all this. That's why I'm bringing this up. He, he interviews the best of the best in the world, the best athletes like Michael Phelps, the swimmer, NFL NBA players, you know, billionaires like Ray Dalio, heads of the biggest companies on the planet like Zuckerberg, CEOs, you know, actors like Ed Norton, Hugh Jackman, Arnold. And what he does is he deconstructs their success. So he, and he just looks at how they became successful. And I started to hear a

pattern, Chris. They almost all meditate. And I'm thinking, what does meditation enhance? Focus, right? You know, so many of us will be sitting there watching Netflix scrolling through freaking social media, which kills your focus because you're, you know, your brain's making these micro decisions every few seconds. And so pay attention to your focus, my friends, and then play to your strengths. You know, in my business, you know, buying large apartment complexes or even smaller ones, you're not going to do it by yourself. You're going to do it with other people. I mean, I bought 2,000 houses pretty much by myself. but I wouldn't even think about taking down, you know, 50 units, 100 units of an apartment

complex by myself. You do it in a team. But, and, you know, so there are lots of different hats you can wear. You can be the analytical person that does the analysis. You can be the person that finds the deals. You know, you can be the one that analyzes them, like I said, you could be the one that manages them after the fact. Maybe you've got some project management or construction experience.

But here's the key. Play to your strengths. Whatever you do in life, play to your freaking. strengths. Your strengths are your greatest assets. You know, don't try to maximize your weaknesses because, you know, I would tell you hire a line or partner for your weaknesses. And because, first of all, when you're playing your strengths, you love what you do, right? And when you love what you do, work is play. And, you know, in my business, you know, apartment complex buying or any commercial real estate buying, the best combination I ever see is an analytical person with an outgoing

person because someone's got to analyze the deals and the outgoing person's got to build relationships with brokers and sellers and maybe potential investors and so you know that's that's a match made in heaven and and so you know play to your strengths because when you do you're going to love what you do obviously and when you love what you do you're passionate about it and people want to be around people that are passionate right i mean that's why people love your show and mine is we're passionate about what we do and and and so to influence requirements requires passion. And so when you're playing to your strengths, you have the ability to influence. And so, yeah, I've been rambling a long time here. I don't know if you have any questions. No, you covered all my questions. I don't have any questions. All right. Well, you know, one other thing is, you know, pay attention to who you hang out with. You know, the reason that my students are so successful in my coaching program is they build each other up. They hold each other accountable. You know, in our Facebook group, there's like a deal closing almost every day. And they get praised. They get validated. You know, so many people, you know, I mean, you show me your three best friends.

I'll show you who you are in every aspect of your life, your health, your happiness, definitely your finances, because who you hang out with is who you become, both professionally and personally. But, you know, you want to be around people that lift you up, but don't, you know, not that holds you back out of fear. And sometimes it's family, you know, the naysayers. And I'm going to tell you, love your family, but proactively choose who you, a lot to influence you, right?

And, you know, you want people that push you and hold you accountable, you know, people that think what you think is hard as easy. And so, you know, it's the old adage. If you play tennis, do you want to play somebody better than you or worse than you? You know, it's the same thing with anything you do in business. So let me ask you this. Who, if I'm out there listening to this on LinkedIn or all the different places we post stuff, who is your client? Who are you, who do you use the appeal to your target?

People that want to buy, yeah, people that want to buy real estate. You know, people that, that, you know, that want to invest in real estate. estate either actively or even passively. You know, I get people that come to my boot camp that just want to learn who to invest with. And so, you know, you don't want to give you a hard-earned money to someone unless you know what the heck you're investing in. Don't do that. Please don't do that, you know. And then, of course, you know, my students, they own, like I said, almost, I think, close to 300,000 units in the eight years I've been teaching, which is just extraordinary. And so, you know, I'm appealing to people like that that want to do, and they do it. And they do

it on the side with a with a full-time job with kids with school with church you know you can you can do this on the side you just got to decide like i said make that decision take that first step you know if you have any interest in real estate get your butt to l.A. and january it'll be a thousand people there incredible networking it'll be it's a kick in the ass because i spend a lot of time we have a lot of fun on mindset you'll leave so juiced and motivated you'll be coming out of your skin but again even if you're not interested in real estate, go do the goal setting workshop at my link tree because, you know, that'll help you in whatever endeavor you want to get into. You know, you got to know what it is you want. You got to create that desire so that you push through that

fear. You push through those limiting beliefs to take action. Let me share one other thing with you that's super important. It might sound a little foofy, but it's not. You know, first thing, let's talk about gratitude. Gratitude is the most important foundational emotion we have available to us. It makes us stronger when we face adversity. It strengthens our immune system. You know, makes our heart stronger, lowers our blood pressure. It brings us closer to our spirituality. And it is how you attract everything you want into your life. You know, it's how I've gotten all the stupid shit I thought was important like the cars, the Lamborghini, the rolls, the Bentley, all this stupid stuff at one time I thought was important. That's how you get it. It's how I got my wife,

you know, is through gratitude and manifesting. And so, you know, one of the things, I do when I, in most mornings, I'll sit in my recliner and I'll just be grateful for the people in my life, the blessings that I have, but then I'll do gratitude for the things that I want as if I already have them, you know, and sometimes I've gotten emotional being grateful for things I don't even have yet. And I know you're like, oh, geez, get on it. But I'm going to tell you, that's what fires you up. Passion carries the truth. This is how I had 50 million to lose and how I got it back. Okay. So ignore this at your peril because it works. And one last story I'll share with you, Chris. You know, when I immigrated, we ended up in Denver because my mom met a man and he was my

stepfather. He was a beautiful man. But, you know, I knew I wanted to live on the beach, man. And there's no beach in Denver. And so, you know, I would visualize the palm trees and the surf and the sand. And 20 years later, I built this incredible mansion on the beach here in Sarasota. I owned the beach on one side and I had my boats on the backside. It was a slice through an island. It was about an $8 to $10 million place. And just to describe it, there was a big wall. waterfall from the second floor balcony into the pool. You had to walk through the waterfall to get the pool. The pool is in magazines. Big spiral staircase up through the middle of the house. You know, I had elevator, wine cellar. On the second floor, I had aquariums built around the

staircase that cost me almost $200,000. So this gives you an idea of the house. Anyway, I worked for this thing for 20 freaking years, okay? Two months after I moved in. So 20 years, two months after I moved in, I'm floating in the pool, look it up at this testament to my ego. It was to prove to the freaking world I was good enough i mean if that didn't do it you know forget it you know and and i got depressed brother i don't mean a little depressed i mean i got really depressed and i'm like what the hell is going on you know i've just achieved success i had the cars and the beautiful wife and the kids and i just achieved success like times 10 000 so there's a message in this i discovered a couple things when i look back on it one was you never achieve a big goal without

having other goals lined up behind it like the good book says you need a vision for the future And I didn't know what I was going to do next. So that's number one. Second thing is it's never about the goals. You need them to create that burning desire and that hunger. But, you know, they say the happiest days of a boat owner's life of the day. They buy the boat in the day they sell it, right? I mean, you need it to create that hunger.

But happiness comes from progress and growth. Okay. And so, you know, if you do my goal setting workshop or come to my boot camp, I do a goal, I do a weekly planning process. And I teach you how to plan progress. It's how I run two big companies at the same time. But one of the pieces of that process is just to acknowledge anything you got done the previous week, celebrate anything you got done.

Because you're going to have setbacks. You're going to hit walls. You're going to get delayed. But if you're progressing even a little and you acknowledge it consciously, you'll be happy. So that was the second thing is I didn't, you know, I didn't know what I was going to do next. But the third big thing was, Chris, I'd been totally focused on myself, you know, Rod, Rod, Rod, show the world I'm good enough, blah, blah, blah. And that's the year I met Tony Robbins, actually. It's just 25 years ago. I ended up spending about 22 years with him, but that's the year I met

him. And I saw that he fed families for the holidays. And I'm embarrassed to say I had to be 40 to get the memo of doing things for other people. And so I called my brother in Denver. I'm like, bro, let's feed five families for Thanksgiving, because I was going to go visit him and thing because I live in Florida and I live there then. But I go to Denver and he called his church and five families that really needed help. And the third family changed my life, brother. We go up to this shack, which is, it was a shack. It wasn't even a one bedroom.

It was a crappy one bedroom. And there was this Hispanic woman in there with five kids. And we bought toys for the kids and frozen turkey and food and all this stuff. And she sees this stuff on the porch and she starts crying. Wow. And then two, their kids come out, two, the older ones start crying. And I start crying. And I was freaking hooked.

And please know, this is not. ego. There's a huge message in this. If you're an entrepreneur, I want to be entrepreneurial, so don't lose me here. So over the last 25 years, I fed about 150,000 children in my area for the holidays, at-risk kids. I've provided tens of thousands of backpacks filled with school supplies to local kids, you know, that don't have the basic supplies for school. Don't get me started on that greatest country in earth and they don't have school supplies. But, and then I've done, I've done thousands and thousands of teddy bears to local police departments for their officers to keep in a vehicle in their patrol vehicle.

both they encounter a child that's been in a traumatic situation. And the reason I bring this up is we've been taught to achieve to be happy. And this is going to be a play on words. It's a little corny play on words, but it's an important one. If you're giving back in any fashion, you're happily achieving, okay? And, you know, Tony Robbins calls it the science of achievement versus the art of fulfillment. Achievement's a science. If you want to learn how to do real estate, get your ass to my boot camp. I'll give you the blueprint. You just got to do it, okay? That's It's it, bottom line. But fulfillment is an art. You've got to figure out what juices you. For me, it's kids. It's also the elderly. That's why I'm getting into senior housing. But that's what I love. That's what juices me. Maybe for you, it's

animals. Maybe it's the environment. Whatever it is, give back now. And don't say, well, you had money. That's why he gave back. You want the money? Give back now. That's how you get the money. Okay. That's how the universe works. Whatever you give, you get back 10fold, a hundredfold, sometimes a thousandfold. But you got to give now. And then you'll be fulfilled and you'll be happily achieving. And so people can check out that workshop. They can sign up for it. And then tell us, as we go out, tell us about this book. Evidently, people can get a great deal on this book. Yeah, well, the book is basically free. If you want the physical copy, I'll send you a PDF for free.

But if you want the physical copy, it's six or seven bucks, something like that for me to ship it to you. And again, it costs me about 30. But it's a number one bestseller in three categories. I have never had, I mean, I get hate all the time. No one should have owned 800 houses. I talk about the 800 houses. Yeah, yeah. No one should own any, so I get to hate all the time,

but no one has ever said anything critical about this book, and I've given away tens of thousands of copies of it. But it's at rodslinks.com. Rods, plurlinksprol.com. My bootcamp site is there. This book, there's a bunch of free books there, too, and they're not crap. They're like best-in-class books are bound around real estate.

My social media is there. And, of course, that goal-setting workshop is there as well. But, yeah, I hope you'll check. it out. My podcast link is there as well. And it's called my podcast. It's called Lifetime Cash Flow through Real Estate Investing. And I love it. And I think it comes out because, you know, we're blessed to be the largest. Good for you, man. Way to build it up like that. You know, the great thing about the real estate stuff that you're talking about is, you know, becoming an entrepreneur and mastering a business and being a CEO, you know, like you've done it, built a lot of businesses.

You know, you have to, there's a lot of risks. There's a lot of things that you have to go into. There's a lot of market shit. I mean, everything could happen. You know, I went through the same crisis in 2008. One of our biggest jewels, one of our biggest jewels of our companies was a mortgage company.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. One of your old mortgage company that I never thought would just hit the wall. I used to have a huge mortgage company. I had 80 LOs, 80, 80. Yeah,

I had a huge mortgage company. I got cream there too. Wow. So, yeah, we tanked everything in 2008 and had to start over. So I know the field. That's it. Yeah,

it's it. But it's okay. If you don't give us, up, right? If you don't give up, you know, it's it. You fail your way to success. I've built 29 businesses. Several worth tens of millions of dollars. Most are spectacular flaming seminars, but we fail our way to success. Don't fear that. Fear regret, like I said. Yeah, fear regret. So people can order it the book. They can go to your website. Give us, as we go out, a final pitch out to people and all the dot com. Well, listen, listen, if you have an, yeah,

thank you. If you have an interest in real estate, then go to rodslinks.com or go to Rod's Inla.com. That's my boot camp there. Again, the tickets, I think, are $197 for three days, and it's not a big salespakes. It's just on, full-on training. And you'll, like I said, I don't think I've ever had a complaint other than the rooms do cold or the food sucked or something like that. So again, Rod in LA.com or Rod's links for a lot of resources. And, you know, I hope you'll check it out. I hope you'll do the goal setting. Even if you're not interested in real estate, do that. Give yourself that gift. Give your spouse that gift. give your kid if they're over 10 years old that gift because, you know, design your life. But I appreciate it, brother. Appreciate you. Thank you. Design your life. That's really important to do because if you, what's the old adage?

If you fail the plan. Failed a plan. And if you're not the lead dog, the view never changes. I didn't really need that in my head. I have huskies and they have their tails sticking up all the time. So anytime they're the lead dog, you have to be looking at a bunch of. buttholes and you're like can you put your tails down like seriously uh thank you very much for coming the show we really appreciate it man thanks brother good to see you and thanks to ernest for

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