The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast Kevin Sorbo on Loaded Deck Movie, iShook.com and Crypto Token Movie Funding’s New Frontier

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

Kevin Sorbo on Loaded Deck Movie, iShook.com and Crypto Token Movie Funding's New Frontier Loadeddeckmovie.com Sorbostudios.com ishook.com ishook.io megatolia.com...

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Starting point is 00:00:45 We had an amazing show with some amazing guests. I think you're going to be really excited. We have Kevin Sorbo on the show. He's going to be talking about a new project called Loaded Deck and a few other people from Hollywood. And also we're going to be talking a little bit of crypto and how this project gets funded and movies, Hollywood, all that good stuff. What more could you ask for on The Chris Foss Show?
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Starting point is 00:01:20 See everything we're reading or reviewing over there, our big major groups and everything that we do on LinkedIn. Today we have, as I mentioned before, Kevin Sorbo on the show. He is an accomplished actor and has done quite a few different things. You may have heard of him. I'm sure you have, of course. He has starring roles in two television series as Hercules in Hercules, The Legendary Journeys, and as Captain Dylan Hunt in Andromeda. He's also known for acting in the Christian drama films God's Not Dead and Let There Be Light.
Starting point is 00:01:53 He's got a ton. I looked up his IMDb. He's got a ton of projects going on right now. We also have from Hollywood Jared Vineyard on the show with us. He's a writer and producer and director who creates for both film and stage. We're going to be talking to him about his project. And then we also have, last but not least, Ben on the show.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Let me get his last name correctly pulled up here on a different screen. Ben Rachmanov on the show. Did I get that right, Ben? You're good. You're good. There you go. All right. Sounds good. So we've got a full slate on the show today. In fact, I should just leave. I mean, normally we don't do four people, so I don't need to be here. I'll let you guys just do it. Welcome to the show, gentlemen. How are you? Good, good. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:33 Good, good. So let's lead off with Kevin. Kevin, welcome to the show. So talk to us about what's going on with you lately, the new movie Loaded, that we're going to be talking about today. Well, we're trying to fund it right now. It's a great movie. It's sort of in that Pulp Fiction world. It's just a really fun script. Great characters in it. We're doing what everybody else is trying to do and trying to raise money to get out movies that are fun and entertaining. That's just sort of the
Starting point is 00:02:59 non-stop bop. I have my own production company, so I know what it's like to try to raise money out there. But I have been busy. I got three movies coming out that are done. I'll be out in January and February. Two of them I directed, and I shot those about a year ago in that area. And then this year, I've already shot four movies. I just got back from Sicily. I just did a Game of Thrones type movie where I got to play a bad guy. I get to kill my cousin so I can take over the throne. So It was interesting and a lot of fun, but staying busy.
Starting point is 00:03:28 What I love to do is still love this business, still love to be making movies. There you go. Let's do a quick round of dot coms and plugs real quick for people. Should we go around and everybody do their dot com? I'll jump in since I just finished. SorboStudios.com is a great
Starting point is 00:03:44 place to go. SorboStudios.com is a great place to go. SorboStudios.com. And actually, I'm going to throw out a trip. My wife and I are hosting our second trip to Israel. So go to SorboIsraelTrip.com. SorboIsraelTrip.com. We're going to be going in May of 2023. It's a bucket list trip for those people who want to travel back to the Holy Land
Starting point is 00:04:02 and sort of follow in the footsteps of Jesus and the things that he didn't saw during that time period. I think people find it pretty interesting. Awesome sauce. Jeremy or Jared. Yeah. Well, for me,
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'd say, you know, go check out, uh, loaded deck movie.com. So that's the, the site's going to, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:18 have all the updates and what's going on with this, this film and stuff we're talking about today. And, uh, yeah, it's a top one that i say go check out and ben of the magnificent i was trying to right i've loved it ben of the magnificent magnificent beard and then clearly i can't say but welcome to the show
Starting point is 00:04:37 yeah so it's i should.com and uh that's our social media platform i should.com it works as twitter uh our goal was to create a combination and that's our social media platform, iShook.com. It works as Twitter. Our goal was to create a combination between content media and social media where there's a synergy between the two types of digital assets. And iShook.io, which expresses our whole blockchain technology and what we do as a company. And those are the two sites that you can really learn about us more. There you go. I think you should change your name to that on LinkedIn, Ben of the Magnificent Beard.
Starting point is 00:05:10 See, I finally nailed that. It took me a second. Yeah, but then I got to explain to everybody why I got the beard. You need to have like a voiceover that goes behind you. Ben of the Magnificent Beard. So, guys, let's talk about this project, and I'll just toss this out to anyone who wants to jump in. What made you want to get involved in this project?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Well, I guess Kevin should go first on that. Well, I just love the character. I love the characters in it. I just kind of mentioned that real quick already, but I mean, they wrote a great script. It's a lot of fun. Just great energy, great action, great action.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And these are the kind of movies I enjoy doing. So I jumped on board the minute Jared sent me the script. I fell in love with it and said, okay, let's do this thing. So that's, you know, really, for anything that I get sent my way, I give it 20 pages. And this one I read through the whole way through right away. Usually 20 pages in, I either make a decision right then and there. But this one kept my attention, so it was good. And you guys have billed it as Think Reservoir Dogs meets Sleepless in Seattle. Does Meg Ryan get shot in this?
Starting point is 00:06:15 No, I'm kidding. In a twisting ride that audiences will love. What's the genre, I guess, overall of the story? Yeah, so it's a it's basically uh an action comedy so you've got the romantic comedy elements going on that are all kind of turned on their heads across the course of this movie it's you know a lot a lot like uh like a crime film like a reservoir dogs sort of thing like you get from uh you know from quentin tarantino just with a guy who should be in a romantic comedy as the lead. There you go. Reservoir Dogs with a romantic
Starting point is 00:06:48 lead in it. What role does Kevin play? What's the name of his character and stuff? His character is Aces. Do you want to talk about your character a little bit, Kevin? No, I think you should. You're the writer. You get better details on
Starting point is 00:07:04 every one of the characters more than I do.'d like my name right off the bat to be honest there you go yeah so so he's uh he's a sharpshooter basically the best in the world he could shoot somebody between the eyes from like a mile and a quarter away uh so he's uh uh got this very high skill basically the uh there's this crew crew of criminals that are kind of put together and an undercover cop that's in the middle of them all. And so, yeah, Kevin plays this really, really fun character, which I don't want to necessarily give away some of the fun elements that he gets to do with it.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I felt like it was sort of like in Butch Cassidy's Sundance Kid, Robert Redford's character in Sundance Kid. I like the line, I'm better when I move. So I kind of like the fact that this guy is giving the action and let it move and he'll hit whatever he needs to hit. Yeah, he's a big
Starting point is 00:07:58 action guy. Less has gone to his talking sometimes. There you go. I've got somebody jamming in the show. Kevin Sorbo is our Easy Way Lifetime Achievement Award honoree of the year and one of our celebrity ambassadors. I'm not sure. Was that plugged from your guys' PR thing?
Starting point is 00:08:17 No, I got a feeling they're watching us. Eric Zuley runs that, and he's a hardworking guy, man. I love that because I'm the same sort of vein as he is in terms of getting yourself out there and working hard in this industry because you've got to do that because no one else is going to open doors for you. You've got to make those doors open up. There you go. So in the movie, there's a love interest because you guys build this sleepless in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So Meg Ryan is not probably in the film. Who did you guys choose to be the female lead in that? She hasn't been cast yet, so we're still figuring it out. So there's two leads that we haven't cast yet, and we're going after some names for them. When we get there, we figured we'd get the money in place and then throw some money offers at some top people. That would be good.
Starting point is 00:09:08 There you go. Very Hollywood. Well, we love the Tarantino-esque sort of action films. Is there going to be a lot of shooting, blood and guts and all that sort of good stuff? There's a decent amount of shooting and stuff like that. I don't think it's going to be quite as violent as a typical Tarantino movie, but there's definitely some people who get blown away across the course of the movie. Well, hopefully people are blown away by the movie. Hi, see what I did there?
Starting point is 00:09:35 Very nice. Are there any other actors that we want to mention or plugins that we want to give for anybody that you guys have locked down yet? I'm seeing a few different things on your updates page. Yeah, we've got quite a few in there quentin aaron is is in there he was the main guy from the blind side fantastic actor um daniel baldwin uh he signed on to be in it um kind of this big looming villain guy in the background um There's Dean Bakar. He's signed on to be in there. He's a hilarious actor. He's in all the South Park movies.
Starting point is 00:10:13 He's got a really fun part. We've got a nice crew rounding out here. London DeLeon plays Kevin's wife, Ace's wife inside the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:28 She's a good actress and model. We've got some really cool people that are signed in to be in. Daniel Baldwin would be my golf partner in our days off. We're both golf nuts. Oh, really? There you go. We do a lot of charity golf events together.
Starting point is 00:10:44 They've been in so many movies, the whole Baldwin family. I mean, just this incredible amount of acting going on there. So is there any plots you want to tease out? Any scenes or anything you want to tease out that we can entice people with? Maybe a scene that you like, Kevin, that you thought was a great scene that really captured your interest. You got to come see the movie, guys. You guys shooting for a theatrical release? There's so many different releases.
Starting point is 00:11:12 There's Amazon and Netflix, and there's so many different ways that stuff gets released nowadays. Yeah, I want to start with the theatrical and then capitalize on all the other ones too. That's the great thing. Theatrical is kind of important because usually what happens is that that's sort of what Amazon and Netflix and other streaming services will base their offer on. So if it does X amount of money in theaters, that will definitely make it more viable for streaming.
Starting point is 00:11:37 But, you know, streaming is the way everything is going right now. I mean, I honestly don't know where theaters are going to end up 10, 15 years from now. But I hope they're around forever because I still love that movie experience as well. I think a lot of people still do. I do too. I was watching Quentin Tarantino in an interview recently. We tried to get him on the
Starting point is 00:11:53 show for his new book. I think we're still trying. He said something really interesting that I never thought about. I was so happy to go back to theaters after COVID. I went and saw The Godfather re-release. Oh, my God. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:08 It was so magical. I never got to see the original Godfather. But he was talking about how he got to see, you know, in Hollywood, as you guys know, you guys get those preview videos where you can get the movies before and you can watch him in a little theater or something if you want. And so he set up some movie that he thought he might be interested in. And he didn't like the movie. And he's like, ah, this movie, I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:12:31 But the experience of being around a bunch of other human beings and that kind of tribal community element, hearing people laugh and breathe, and that's part of the whole experience of going to the theater. Yep. No question. Yeah. And experience of going to the theater. No question. And he's made all the difference. When I thought television came around back 70 years ago, they're all worried that, oh my gosh, no one's going to watch movies anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:54 They were completely wrong because people still love that and still want to do it. And I think people are coming out of their caves finally. I think they're starting to realize this weapon of fear government loves to use over our lives. I think people are sick and tired of it at this point. And they want to get back out there and live life. So, you know, I'm seeing that everywhere right now.
Starting point is 00:13:10 So it's just good. I love it. I've been sitting around looking for movies to go to theater. I'm kind of a – there's only certain movies that I like that have to be really well done. But, God, going and seeing The Godfather and I've seen a couple other movies recently that – just a whole theater experience. Plus I miss eating all that popcorn and getting sick off the candy popcorn. That's kind of the whole thing, really, you know, the whole diabetic sort of overload. You get that coma, that food coma where you're like in there.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So this is going to be exciting. What's the release date you guys are pushing for or start filming for? Well, we won't know that until, uh, until we get to the budget all in place and we get shooting and everything. So, right.
Starting point is 00:13:50 There you go. I think the goal is obviously we would love to start filming the next, you know, four to five months for sure. Uh, just comes down to finding that, uh, getting the rest of that money in there and getting a rolling because,
Starting point is 00:14:03 uh, the script sells itself. It's just a matter of now just getting funded. It's, you know, when you get in the independent film world, it's always a little tougher. I mean, if I try to raise like $3 million for one of my movies, that's like catering budget in Pirates of the Caribbean. You know, they do $300 million movies, and that's the battle we got.
Starting point is 00:14:22 There's a lot of really good independent filmmakers out there, and like Jared is, and it's just a matter of, okay, getting the timing at the right place, and we're ready to go. I mean, we're definitely ready to go. It's just got to get that funding in place. There you go. Has it gotten easier to fund movies with Amazon and Netflix and all these players being in the business now?
Starting point is 00:14:41 I don't think so. Wow. It's still pretty hard. Well, I've lived in L.A., and, you know, everyone's got a screenplay. Yeah. Where do you live? I live in Las Vegas now. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I have a home in Henderson. My mom lives there. I've had a home there since 1994. God, this town's grown. That was my Monte Carlo tax dodge when I got Hercules, because even though I was shooting in New Zealand, 10 months out of the year, California, know a lot wanted to still charge me state tax and i said yeah screw that i'm not even here so that became my tax dodge but then my parents took
Starting point is 00:15:14 over the place so i'll be out there christmas so maybe i'll see you on christmas time yeah man it's uh you know i i used to go to la and i would be the only guy who didn't have a screenplay i go to like parties and stuff and people you know people be here hey you want to see my screenplay and i'm like i'm not i'm just some dude right you know and uh and you know everyone have one i'd just be like i should i should i i started walking around making up screenplays and i'm like uh yeah i've got the screenplay where we take harrison ford and i don't know meg ryan and i would just make up a combobulation that would make no sense. And people would look at me like, yeah, that's going nowhere, buddy.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And I'm like, yeah, I just made it up. So, Kevin, I mean, you've been an actor for how long? I mean, you've been in so many movies I can see on the IMDb. I've been in business 40 years. I like to say I was two years old when I started. But, yeah, you know, I've been lucky to stay busy. I live in Florida. I got the heck out of California four years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Was going to do it many, many years ago, but we finally did it. It's been a great move for me. I would say 80% of the movies I've shot, they're in Texas or further east. Nothing shoots in California, really. It just doesn't happen anymore, unless you're a sitcom. But most of the stuff takes place.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Georgia's number one to film in the country right now. They've got Vancouver and Toronto, which are packed up there. And, you know, I just shot in Montana this year. I shot in Mississippi, and I shot in West Virginia. So nothing shoots in California. It's getting spread out. It's pretty cool that way. Yeah, we're just bigger tax credits elsewhere, you know, and better locations.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And you don't got to deal with California. I mean, it's not for the traffic and the taxes and the craziness of that state. So I prefer shooting in other states. I find the cruise and the environment much more easy to deal with. That's what drove me out of California, the traffic. So how do you find, after doing this for 40 years, since you were two, how do you find the ability to dig in and keep it fresh as an actor and really bring that whole newness to a role? Well, I'm still passionate about the business.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I had my love for being on a set with the creative chaos, organized chaos that being on a movie set is like, I still love it. I love working with people. We're in one of the few businesses, I think, in life that doesn't matter what side
Starting point is 00:17:40 of the camera you're on, people want to be in this business. They don't just say, I actually fell into acting. That's BS. You wanted to act. I didn't want to direct. Yeah, you did. You want to be in this business. They don't just say, yeah, I actually fell into acting. It wasn't going to, yeah, no, that's BS. You wanted to act. Well, I didn't want to direct. Yeah, you did. You wanted to be a director.
Starting point is 00:17:50 So I just think that, you know, you get on these sets and you get to work with all these wonderful people from, you know, hair, makeup, wardrobe, visual effects, camera, direct, whatever. These are all very creative people. I love the whole process of that. So I haven't lost my thrill for it. I still get excited doing it. It hasn't
Starting point is 00:18:08 slowed down for me at all. I admire a guy like Clint Eastwood. I've known Clint for, my gosh, 25 years now. I've golfed with him. Here he is, 92 years old, and he's still thinking about doing another movie. I love what he does. I always remind directors, just saying, Jared,
Starting point is 00:18:24 these guys want to shoot these 14, 16 hour days. I always whisper to them. I always remind directors, just saying, Jared, these guys want to shoot these 14, 16-hour days. I always whisper to them. I go, you know, Clint shoots eight-hour days and makes Academy Award-winning movies. I'm just saying. There you go. We're talking days in control. That's true.
Starting point is 00:18:38 He's got his crew. He knows, boom. They all know that you get out there and you go and you're professionals on both sides of the camera. You can get these days done. But I understand 11-, 12-hour days very easily. But when they give me 16 hours, I'm going, yeah, I'm a waste of time on the set.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And I'm like a first AD assistant where I'm always on the set going, what are we waiting for? What's going on? Let's shoot this thing. Come on. There you go. So you've got the – is that the Hercules sword I imagined from the movie? That was given to me by my props department on the very last day after seven years,
Starting point is 00:19:12 the very last day of filming, which was an emotional day for me because, you know, you're on a show that long, and you work in your 12-hour days for seven years, and it becomes family. You know, and they made that for me because they all went on to work on Lord of the Rings when we finished filming. And it says, you know, Kevin Sorbo's got the years on there, 1993 to 2000 on there. It says, you know, the journey's over, but the legend lives on is what they put on this inscription. See, what you need to do when you go on those sets that have those 16-hour days,
Starting point is 00:19:42 you just pull that sword out and just kind of lightly start swinging it around. It's a heavy bugger, I got to tell you. We need to get some people working here with these times down. All right, well, let's get to Ben. Ben of the Magnificent Beard. Ben of the Magnificent Beard. So let's talk about iShook.com and why you guys got involved in this project too.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Well, obviously, you can tell how Mr. Sor and and why you guys got involved in this project too well obviously you can tell how mr sorbo and jared are speaking i mean i look to them for this industry and what they know and that's why i'm banking on them as much as i can um and the reality is is that we're trying to get um and create funding for movies and independent films to cryptocurrency as an NFT. And I know with the FTX crash, people have to make a distinction between crypto as a utility as opposed to crypto as a currency. So that's where people are losing the game. And also the crash is also inflated because it's not per se 15 billion.
Starting point is 00:20:42 It's what's the futures of the cryptocurrencies that were lost. The reality, we don't know how much was lost. It's much less than that, most likely. But in general, the cryptocurrency industry is working huge. Instagram, Facebook, they're all using Polygon, Matic as their go-to NFT token. So what we're trying to do is create, and we're starting this with the first product in order to create a following so we can have enough data to show the global community. And that's the big point, by the way. The reason why I thought about going to the NFT project
Starting point is 00:21:16 and making this moving NFT project, because it becomes a global community. You can reach funds so much quicker with a cryptocurrency, meaning a utility token, as opposed to going to those people who might not even want your moving coming out. So we figured, okay, let's get the NFT out there. Let's create some sort of NFT, but we can't just go straight to a movie NFT. That's a little bit complicated. There's a lot of PR involved to that. So I went to Jared and Jared spoke to Kevin and we said, let's create a comic where we're doing background stories of the individuals. Let's create a NFT for that comic, not the general comic. Yeah. So what the problem is with NFTs, and this is why the NFTs have crashed, where people would buy NFTs of art for $600,000. People have to really think about it.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Kevin talks about the sword. Imagine that sword was just on a digital space. No one would want to buy it. I mean, they can't take it. So what we're creating is, and that's where we launched our other app called, web app called Megatolia. It's in beta stage right now. Megatolia.com, which is short for ImageTolia. So there used to be a company that was bought by Adobe.com calledatolia.com, which is short for ImageTolia. So there used to be a company that
Starting point is 00:22:26 was bought by adobe.com called Fotolia.com. It was a stock image platform and they bought it for about $900 million. So we said, let's do tangibility and practicality with NFT. So what's the practicality? Well, we're creating a database of people's stock images that they can sell for actual dollar and cents? Then what we're saying is now let's create a tangibility with NFTs. Well, we can create a comic book that will potentially a person like Kevin can sign. And now we have a certain set of this comic and now we can sell that NFT for a certain amount of number with the comic. So you get the NFT, you get it registered, and now you have that comic that will be sent to you to your home. So it's a practical and tangible NFT. And we're taking basically the concept of ISBNs in books. With an ISBN,
Starting point is 00:23:19 you cannot own a book. I mean, you cannot publish a book, you cannot print the book, or you could print it, but you're not going to be able to sell it, you need an ISBN on it. So we're saying let's create an ISBN model for images, for comic books that are collector's items, and for movies itself. And that ISBN will create a registration that this is the original legitimate movie out there, or the legitimate comic that's out there. So if a person has a comic says, oh, this comic is worth $10,000 because Mr. Sorbo signed it. Well, that's a fake because we have a list of all the ISBN numbers of the blockchain numbers that are associated with the comics that we bought, that we created with the original signature. So we just create a real tangibility
Starting point is 00:24:01 to the NFT. This market is a global market. I mean, we can literally collect movies and fun movies in this fashion from today to tomorrow. We're doing this as the first time. So hopefully this will be the first and most successful of what we're doing. Awesome, Sauce. Now, you sent me some pieces of artwork. I was trying to find them here on my LinkedIn. Is that some of the artwork that you're going to be using for the NFT?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Jared knows better. That's the comic page, I guess. It's a comic book, right? There should be... The big picture there is the main picture on the first page, so it'll have some narration stuff added
Starting point is 00:24:42 to it, and probably the credit lines would appear on that page and stuff as well. But, yeah, I think he might have sent over some of the concept art, too, of the characters and stuff like that. But, yeah, it's really coming along nicely. Our artist, Rael, is super talented, doing a great job with creating these images and stuff for us after I've written out the book and the story for him and everything,
Starting point is 00:25:03 and so what the pages should have on them, and he's just going and've written out the book and the story for him and everything. And so, you know, what the pages should have on them and he's just going and cracking them out right now. The artwork looks really cool. How soon do you plan on issuing all that stuff? Should be December, something like that, when he finishes the art. So hopefully we'll... Hopefully before the holidays,
Starting point is 00:25:20 Christmas and Hanukkah holidays, you know, maybe people can buy a few NFT versions of the comic before the holidays and gift it. It's always a good gift way. My brain just broke. You were saying December, and I'm like, God, that seems like a long time away. And I'm like, no, it's not. It's next month. It's two weeks away.
Starting point is 00:25:37 It's December already. We've got interviews with authors that are publishing in 2023, and it's been the hardest thing. Since October, we've got stuff in the can that we can't publish until 2023. And I'm just like, my God, don't drag me into 2023. So what made you excited about this, Kevin, with NFTs and getting in this whole crypto thing? Have you gotten into this before? I am still so ignorant of understanding it,
Starting point is 00:26:02 so I leave it to these guys to do it. I don't get the NFTs. I've been approached by other people with the NFT thing. I to these guys to do it. I don't get the NF. I've been approached by other people with the NFT thing. I look at it. I go, I don't get it, how people make money on this. It's weird to me. It's beyond a foreign language. So I put my trust in what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And the Bitcoin thing, too. I wish someone would have told me to put money into it 15 years ago because that would have done quite well. Because I know a couple of people did quite well. But it's still a learning process for me, trust me. Yeah, it's crazy. We should NFT your beard, Benny. We should. I was commenting before you guys came on.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I was like, he's got like the whole Orson Welles beard sort of thing going on there. I tried to grow one of those one time. If Jack Dorsey can get a beard, I can get a beard. There you go. Well, just drink that zucchini water. What a crappy drink that is. Oh, that's not. That guy.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You know, at least they came up with somebody new to run Twitter into the ground. There's that whole thing. So what haven't we touched on? Go ahead. An alternate Twitter. iShook.com is alternate for Twitter. I mean, we've been developing this company since 2013. By the way, our main industry was the book industry.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I mean, we've been in all the book shows. And we have our own e-book app. We have spent a million and a half already in the company. And, again, content is – listen, I'm going to say it straight up. When I was watching when I was a kid growing up, I watched Hercules. That was my favorite show. I mean kid growing up, I watched Hercules. That was my favorite show. I mean, everybody's favorite show was Hercules, you know. So, and the reality is, is that that itself got me interested in the content and the movie industry.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Because you saw how genuine, and I think Mr. Sorbo's genuinity in acting was there. I mean, he was a good role model for many, many people in general. And I think that's what really, I mean, caught me in this project. I mean, by the way, the way we met, me and Jared, last year about this time, we presented in Connectpreneur.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I'm going to have to drop them in, plug them in. Connectpreneur was for a, what's it called? For a pitch that we had to do for three minutes to big investors. And I said, wow, I told my partner, look at this. Jared has got this beautiful project.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'm like, let me talk to him. Let's see if we can get this part with iShook. And listen, it's been years working on it. And, you know, the market wasn't so good because the market did dip when it came to cryptocurrency. But now the market is going higher in a sense because people are not understanding huge amounts of money is being funneled into blockchain technology. And blockchain put aside from cryptocurrency is the biggest thing that's going to be for tomorrow, where you have a public ledger of transactions. No one has that. You go to the bank, and by the way, that's where
Starting point is 00:28:46 the enticement comes with cryptocurrencies, where regular people can now have access to money where bankers would need to have those accesses. So this is where the enticement comes with cryptocurrency. But forget cryptocurrency in general. Cryptocurrency and blockchain technology will be the future because the gaming industry has proven it to be the future. The only difference is in the gaming industry, when you're buying in-app purchases
Starting point is 00:29:15 from any video game, from Sony PlayStation to your iPhone to your Google Play account, it's consumable. But what blockchain technology will create is that these in-app purchases that are consumable will now be able to be transferred from friend to friend or from user to user, owner to owner. And you'll have those public transactions available. And I think that will be the game changer for the moving industry. And that's where my dream comes in into that, into that point that we can actually get this first movie to be the template for future movies,
Starting point is 00:29:50 future fundraisings in general. And that's where I see it. That's going to be awesome. Do we get all the plugs in for I shook where, what you guys do, your app and everything like that? Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:00 it's going to be a lot, but it's, I should not, I owe mega. It's, it's, it's going to be a lot, but it's iShip.io, Megatolia. It's there. It's there. We have a bunch of apps that support specific genres of content creation. There you go.
Starting point is 00:30:14 But definitely, I think the comic will be bigger, by the way, than actual movies. Because what Kevin has done right now, and I think it's big, and I spoke to this with my partners and a few of my peers. What he has done with helping us doing this comic is now we're not gonna just recruit actors and actresses to movies. We can recruit them to comics now. And they can get paid in comics in big funds. And then you can create a following for a movie prior to the movie's production.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And then you're guaranteed that you're gonna have those 100,000, 200,000 viewers for that movie. They're going to come to that movie for that. By the way, this is how Netflix and Amazon makes their money. They have direct access to books, especially Amazon. They have direct access to books that are being sold both in graphic novels and both in comics and in books itself. And they know the data. They know if a book was read or
Starting point is 00:31:05 bought 200 000 times 1 million times 2 million times they got that data and they can go approach that guy and say we're gonna make a movie out of it tomorrow and guess what they have the data how to make it funded so we want that data for the independent film industry yeah we've had comic book authors on the show and it's just amazing that industry you know i it It seems like it's one of those things that I grew up with as a kid where we collected comic books and stuff. We used to have a treasure store of them in the woods somewhere or in our treehouse. And I thought, well, those probably will go away with records and stuff. Of course, neither went away.
Starting point is 00:31:40 So it's just amazing how popular those are nowadays. Definitely, definitely. that's the whole that's the whole subject of x-men x-men and all these marvel comics and dc comics they're successful because they have been out they have a following for 70 years until they started making movies yeah and people love consuming the content in that form too there's there's a tactile sort of experience with it. And I still like grabbing a newspaper every now and then and looking at it, although I end up with ink on my hands.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So anything we want to touch on or tease out before we go out, guys? I'm good. I think we covered some good stuff. Is there anything we need to shout out to the crowd out there, gentlemen, to have them come on down and see if they want to be part of the project? Yeah, definitely. So they should be going on megatolia.com. That's where we're going to do the fundraising for Loaded Deck. That's where we're also going to be able to sell the NFT comic,
Starting point is 00:32:33 the collector's edition. The comic itself will be available in all ebook platforms and obviously all platforms like Amazon or hopefully Barnes & Noble and other places. But that's basically it. I mean, that's what we have available now. And we have a beautiful direct also domain name called megamoviesnft.com. So that's going to be the main domain name for the Loaded Deck and any future movies fundraising. There you go. Let's go around the room and get everybody's.com. We want to plug
Starting point is 00:33:08 Loaded Deck down here. I see that you can subscribe at LoadedDeck.com and get the newsletter so you can keep up on the movies publishing and releasing. Yeah. Yeah, LoadedDeckMovie.com. Check it out. Get on there. You can contact
Starting point is 00:33:23 us directly too if your investor out there wants to get into the movies. This is a great place to do it. Another good place is sorbostudios.com. It's another good place to go, sorbostudios.com. And let's not forget this guy, okay? Is it hard to stay in shape still? Still in 60 countries, guys. We were the most watched show in the world by season three in 176 countries.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And I got to brag about that. I know it's the sin of pride, but how many actors can say that? So it's kind of cool to be part of that show. And, you know, it's interesting. I get stopped more now for the movies I've been doing, more than I do from Hercules or Andromeda. I mean, they're still out there, but a lot of people are loving the movies I'm putting out there.
Starting point is 00:34:03 So they stop me in airports, hotel lobbies. Hey, keep making movies. We enjoy following your career. So it's been a fun transition. That's awesome. Have you ever thought about redoing that? I'd be too old for that role now, man. I was 230 back then.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I'm 210 now, but it's a different 210. I still work out every day, but I would come back as Zeus. They could grade me up a little bit and I still work out every day, but I would come back as Zeus. They could gray me up a little bit and I'd play Zeus. There's plenty. There's the next 30-year-old ripped-up dude out there I'm sure that would love that role, and I think they should redo it. Why not? I mean, they
Starting point is 00:34:35 redo everything else, right? They still finished back in 2000, so yeah, it's probably due for a reboot. You do the whole hand-off thing like they did with Luke Skywalker and Han Solo and Star Wars? We did five two-hour movies to start the series, and I got to work a whole year with Anthony Quinn. That was pretty cool to work with a guy that's a six-time Academy Award
Starting point is 00:34:55 nominator, two-time winner. Every Saturday we had dinner together for a year, and we became very good friends until he passed away. So for me, that was a really big honor being part of that beginning of that series. Well, we've teased it out. So somebody write that damn script and get that thing going there. Maybe that could be the next NFT project. I would go see that.
Starting point is 00:35:17 It's very good. I'm game. There you go. There might be a couple ladies that might want to go see that too. They have quite the female following there. I think we had a bigger female population than male on that show. Well, good. It's good to have the fan base.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Do you have a.com you want to throw out there, Jared? Just do the loaded deck one. I mean, you can find me on LinkedIn and different places like that too if you want. But that's the main one I'm pushing right now. They can follow me on LinkedIn and different places like that too if you want. But that's the main one I'm pushing right now. They can follow me on Twitter. Facebook and LinkedIn actually took me down for posting things that were truthful. Really? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I was going to do that too. But today, of course, one of my Twitters was, anybody have any more conspiracy theories because mine keep coming true. So there you go. That's funny. Have you guys gotten on that TikTok? That TikTok is hotter than that. My son does it.
Starting point is 00:36:09 He does a joke today. He's got over 2 million followers. He puts me in about 20% of them. But I get stopped all the time by people saying, love your son's TikTok. And I'm going, hey, he's crude. 2 million followers he's got. We're starting to put the Chris Voss show up there. And I've referred a few friends that have gone over there and just killed it.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I mean, you should be on there, Kevin, just doing whatever you're doing. Well, you know, maybe my son with 2 million followers, we've got to roll for him in my Darius movie because he's got a lot of followers. I would suggest you – 2 million followers on average, that's a good idea. Right. I would suggest a dedicated phone for a TikTok. That's what I would suggest.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yeah, that TikTok, man. I mean, I spend hours on the damn thing. Because TikTok, they check your keystrokes. So they data mine your keystrokes. So just get a separate phone just for a TikTok, and then you'll be good. I gave up privacy a long time ago. But, yeah, that TikTok is crazy, man. I'll spend hours on that thing. I'll like,
Starting point is 00:37:05 there's sometimes I'll be sitting there swiping at midnight and it's five in the morning, the sun's up and I'm like, oh, this is not good. So that tells you how powerful that is.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Anyway, guys, and it's great for like comic book and movie stuff. It's great. So anyway, guys, thanks for coming by the show. We really appreciate you guys coming by.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Thank you for having us. It's been a real honor to have you guys and get an NFT on that magnificent beard, Benny. I love you guys. Thank you very much, guys. Thanks for tuning in. There you go.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Thanks for being here. Go to YouTube.com, Fortress, Chris Foss, all the places you see us on the Internet. Be good to each other. Stay safe, and we'll see you guys next time. Cool.

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