The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Love is the Main Ingredient by Angelee Schrouder

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

Love is the Main Ingredient by Angelee Schrouder https://www.amazon.com/Love-Main-Ingredient-Angelee-Schrouder/dp/B0H6C981QH Angelee is an experienced home cook. Cooking is truly her passion, which she developed at the age of nine, when she made her first meal. She was born in Jamaica, spent five years in Florida, twenty-two years in New York, and ten years in North Carolina. Her background and creativity create unique combinations of flavors with twists on food with Jamaican roots. This cookbook sums up her culinary journey of cooking with love. She wants to spread the love and have others learn to do the same through food.

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Her book is entitled, Love is the Main Ingredient by Angelie Schroeder. We're going to be talking to her about her details on all the work that she's doing and what she's been up to in her research. She has been writing for a long time and has a few books that she's cooking here. She's been cooking since nine years old. Born in Jamaica, lived in Florida, New York, and now living in North Carolina. Welcome to the show. How are you, young lady? Thank you so much, Grace.

Thanks for having me. I'm doing well. Thank you. Thank you for coming, Angelina. Give us your websites.coms, any place on the internet. You want to find how people find you. So love is the main ingredient, angrily.com. That's where you'd be able to purchase the book through Amazon and Barnes & Noble.

Yeah. All right. And give us a 30,000 overview. What's inside this book, please? Okay, so I was inspired to write this book because I've been cooking. Cooking is my passion. I've been cooking since I was nine years old. back in Jamaica, that's how I started. I wanted to spread love from my hands and heart to the world

to show love because love conquers all and God is love. So that's why I did that now. So is this a cookbook officially? Yes, it's a cookbook, but it's also inspirational, you know, because love conquers. So families to get together and just spread love to throughout the world. Even on my birthday for 919, I wanted to just to pay stuff forward and just spread love each day as much as we could give. Just show love because love conquers all. Yeah. Would you say this is also a memoir? Like a love letter. A love letter to the world. So we could get on one accord and cook with love or whatever.

would do with love. Yeah. Then the outcome would be great. Yeah. Cooking, cooking would, so it involves your story and your history and maybe some recipes, or is it a full recipe book? Or tell us more how it's laid out. All right. So it has the recipes and also I had some scriptures too. So say it's a fish dish. I'll quote the scripture that when the Lord fed 5,000 people with 5 of the bread and 2 fish. so make that reference five of the bread and two fish will show that reference in the book and so step by step if someone doesn't really like how to cook they could just choose at least one recipe and cook with love but love is the main ingredient you can't eliminate because some of the dishes has carrots and potatoes and some peppers and that might make the the dish colorful

it doesn't change the taste of the dish but You can't eliminate. So those things are optional, but love isn't. You have to cook with love. And the outcome would be great. Yeah. Cooking with love, that seems to be a real lost art nowadays, at least to those of us in the singles field, they're trying to find singles that can actually cook. My grandmother would, she could cook with love. She was a true feminine and she matriarch and she'd make you anything and she'd have you come in the kitchen and sit with her while she cooked it on an old stove. And you can, she, what do you want, Chris?

What do you want? I like a sandwich and I have to tape her to what she had. But, you know, she could make a mean breakfast, eggs and stuff. She could make a mean sandwich. But somehow that was the greatest food in the world. It was because it was cook with love. Because it was cook with love. And you could tell.

And she would tell the difference. She was said, listen to us as we sat at her table and talked to her. And, you know, she'd make us laugh. we'd make her laugh. But there was something about her just cooking that food that was so wonderful for you and the love that would pour into it. And so we need more of that. We used to have those big, we back in those days, we'd have these huge family dinners where three of the children's families would come together with their wives and everybody. We'd have those huge, just this table and gone forever.

And God, it was so wonderful. And boy, you really felt loved. And I remember after my grandfather passed, the family kind of lost this lead. And most of the men weren't strong enough to maintain that or I guess capture that. And all the infighting starting with the wives and then no one wanted to talk to each other. It was really sad. And I really felt like my family had been torn for me. And I remember talking to my cousin about it because one day everybody just disappeared.

I was like, what happened to those dinners we used to do? and Thanksgiving and Christmas and get-together. No more. Having that love, and I imagine in Jamaica, family and that kind of love and food and environment is really important. Yes. So I'm going to tell you a side story real quick on that. Would be both parents could cook and like my mom, but she was overprotective because she's always using a pressure cooker pot. Because my dad, like the stewing hand, so those aren't tender, so she used a pressure cooker pot.

So she didn't teach me how to cook. She showed me how to marinate the stuff and, you know, seasoning up the meats and stuff. But once the flame was on, she said, get out of the kitchen. But it never happened, but she always said that. Yes. But so it was my peers. I was teaching them how to math, English, and religious education. I said, but we got to eat.

And so that's where I made the first dish. they brought some tomorrow and she said who'd ask who made it when they told her me she said that it's like an old soul cooking so after that she trusted i'll be in the kitchen and stuff and been cooking since then and if i go to jamaica if i was to visit there would be someone to my age they would come up to me and remind me of something that i taught them something that i did with them or even like someone probably eight years younger than me i taught them how to how to spell, taught him how to spell his name. I say, break it down in syllables and I'll always take time out to be teaching someone.

And just my peers, they'll tell you, okay, she taught me a couple of French words because at 12 years old, my school that I attended, not every school did French. They mostly had Spanish that they would teach. And so I had a French teacher, I can't forget, her name was Miss LaSage, but she was from Quebec. And so I'd learned Ali the bird and Alewet and a couple of French words. I'll teach them, bonjour or Safa or I did that. And so I'm always teaching. So if I go back to Jamaica, someone would say I taught them how to like study and pass their common entrance for high school.

Or my cousin would say, oh, you taught me how to spell my name or always. And my best in New York, she'll say, okay, you taught me how to draw. So if you stay wherever I've gone, they'll tell you. I'm always teaching and cooking, do the same thing. But, you know, with love, that's what caused it. And just patience, you know, it was a long way with that. Yeah, patience. And this used to be the way that we used to commiserate around the table.

And even like strangers would come and pass through. And it was a way of getting news and finding out what the strangers had seen. And you would offer them shelter and food. And they would offer you their stories. And that was the old way that people travel around. And they used to call it a thing called Breaking Bread, right? I don't know if you heard that term probably have. And it was called Breaking Bread.

And it was the instance of getting to know another person by over food. I love that Anthony Bourdain show. And he would show that. He would go to different countries where sometimes they didn't even speak the language. And there was a separation of cultures maybe and different foods and stuff. and he would embrace them and they would embrace him and he would eat with them and he would eat what they eat. And we need to kind of get back to that. It seemed to be a thing that was really healthy for human beings.

And sometimes when you fill your belly with a lot of good food, all that politics and arguments about this, that, and the other kind of fall away. No matter. Yes, no matter then. You give me a good plate of food. I'll just, I'll give up. It's true. These hands have cooked for several people with these hands, grace,

for family and friends, doctors, pastors, bishops, always been cooking for all these years and love conquers all. Yeah. I love conquers all with good food. And the parents like my mom, she always make extra and people would pass by. So similarly, they would pass by and make sure they stop and get some food and she always have something else that she's putting in a bag for them, packing stuff for them to, yes, there's always loving and kind. And so it's in my DNA. I can't ever help myself.

That's awesome. I'm always sharing and, yeah. That's awesome. But what a great thing. When you give, you get, I think a lot of people experience that. What are some of the foods that you talk about in Jamaica that are kind of exclusive to Jamaican cuisine? We were joking about plantains before the show and how much I love them.

What are some other great Jamaican delicacies, I guess? Okay. So the jerk chicken is known because when I run my restaurant, I couldn't not have jerk chicken and ox tail. So those were top sellers for me at the restaurant. They were neck and neck. They had the same sales amount as far as oxdale is more expensive. But we definitely did good with oxdale at one point. Like my dad said they used to throw out oxdale because it was cheap and no one really wanted it.

But Jamaicans, they season it and cook it up and it's real good. But so the jerk chicken is known once it's Jamaican tied with that. But what happened is in the homes, usually they don't make jerk chicken, right? It's usually on the side of the road, they have the charcoal grill and they'll make jerk chicken on Fridays or Saturdays. People go out, yeah, it's not really daily at the house. They wouldn't make jerk chicken and per se they'll have the brown stew chicken every Sunday. Everybody probably makes brown stew chicken and that.

So I mentioned that we will cook with and put some carrots or potatoes, bless you. Thank you. And carrots and potatoes. But those, just to make the dish pretty, we have to cook with love, Chris, definitely from the heart. They'll make a difference, make a difference. I totally agree. There's something about food that's like that. Your mom makes it or whoever's the chef in your thing.

I'm actually Googling right now. I was Googling Jamaican cuisine. pull some more references here and town. I got to go to here. I'm hungry. You got me. We got started in the pre-show and no, I'm starving. But I tell you what, I have a specialty dish where I created.

And I love seafood. So I call it jamming shrimp. But you can't go to Jamaica and get it, nor elsewhere. It's my own to do. It's my creation. And from the different parts of the world that I've lived and I make my own. to do and I call it jamming shrimp. And at the restaurant, I used to

make it to order. So if someone wanted it real spicy, because some people love real hot. I don't like it that spicy because it takes away the flavor to me, but people like it real hot. And so it's made to order. If you want it not so spicy or

it's quick, make it real quick. But it was like just at my restaurant, that's all it. There it was. Yeah. Why do you think Jamaican food tastes so good? What is the key to it? Is there a key in it? Is it seasoning? Or is it the love? Maybe. I don't know. They love too. They love. Definitely love. Yeah. But do you have to season ahead of time? Like I always season at one point, when I lived in New York, and I used to season on Saturdays. Then I season and season all my means different times. So it doesn't cross-contamined or anything.

And then I'll put it in skip a lot bags. And then I'll just take one bag out. that morning before going to work and in the evening, then I would cook it. So then it's to the bone, like season all the way through, not just on the surface. You're killing me here. I'm serious. There's a food to one on Wikipedia for making food. Yeah. Why did they call it jerk chicken?

What is that? Why do they call it that? I don't know. Why they say jerk chicken? He was kind of insulting to the chicken. Like, what did the chicken do to be called a jerk? This seems kind of rude. Plus, they got shredded and cooked.

I always thought jerked chicken, man, maybe it was pulled apart or something. I don't know. But I don't know. Yeah, no, they did the quarters. Yeah. That holds up well. Some people like the white meat, but it gets tried easier when you do the like quarters. That holds up better.

Do you guys use rum in your food? I'm seeing some rum and some creole influences. Is that something? You guys doing there? Sometimes they put it on pork before, but typically not really. Okay. Coquette room. Yeah.

They use the room for other stuff. They'll put it on pork, as I said, but typically not. They'll drink the room. Or if it's like an occasion to say there is someone passed away and there, a lot of people, they'll gather and that time they'll drink and have night night or they'll use the room. I'll put you asleep, some good food, and a little booze. You're going to be like,

I'm going to go have one of those post- Thanksgiving naps. Public Jamaican dishes include curry goat or, yeah, curry goat, for sure. Fried dumplings, brown stew with ox tail. What is ox tail such a thing? There's a barbecue place in town that makes Texas-style barbecue. And their key is, they say they use ox tail. And thinking about all the tails that I've ever seen of bulls,

this doesn't seem like something that part of the bowl I want to eat, but why is it so good, I guess? It's good. It's not really a lot of flesh, not of meat. Some of the parts of the tail will be bigger, some smaller and stuff, not much meat there and bones. But it's just really a center bone and you could eat right around it. It's easy to eat. But I don't know, it's just good. It's just beef. So if someone likes steak, it's just beef, really. You could stew it down, but it's not really a tender meat. So sometimes that's why they put it in a pressure cooker pot or sometimes you'll slow cook it for hours. Or you could put it in a crock pot. It'll cook, but it comes out differently that way. I usually put in a pressure cooker pot just for a short period of time, like probably nine men.

And then I'll empty it and finish it up, stovet up, put some dumplings in it, like little dough balls or they'll put some beans like butter bean or broad bean i'll put that in in the oxdale if i start drawing a long drool out the side of my mouth just let me know acchi i'm not sure from pronouncing that right ackey yes there's their national dish the acchi it looks like scrambled eggs but it doesn't taste like egg i i can't tell you there isn't anything else i've ever eaten that comes close to like describing it You have to cook the aci with codfish, like saltfish. They cut up onions and peppers and kind of sauteed and make acci and salt fish with breadfruit. I don't know if you see that coming up.

Breadfruit is a, not a, I only see it in Jamaica per se. I've never seen breadfruit here, except it was imported. But that's their national dish, acci and saltfish and breadfruit. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking online here because, I've always wondered where the jerk comes from and the jerk chicken. And I guess jerk is a style of cooking native to Jamaica in which the meat is dry rubbed or wet marinated with a hot spice mixture called in jerk spice.

Yeah. Because they do jerk pork as well. Oh, yeah. So it'll be like, yeah, they do jerk pork. They have a jerk center that you'll get a lot of jerk pork or jerk chicken there. And then they'll make the fried dumplings. or festival is not a form of the fried dumpling kind of deal. And they'll roast yam.

It's just different and it's just so good. I can't even mimic it. It's just different because sometimes they have the wood like using a type of wood outside gives it the smoke that flavor. So I listed even when I did jerk chicken, it was very good because it's seasoned well, as you said. It's with a wet rub. I've used a dry rub before when I instruct a class. They don't have the wet rub. I just get the dry seasoning.

But at my restaurant, I listed it as oven jerk. Not that it was oven, but I didn't want them coming and say, okay, if it doesn't taste like the smoke from where they have it in Jamaica. Yeah. Yeah. See, I was always, I've always been wondering up until this podcast what the jerk chicken was. And I'm like, maybe it's the seasoning because you can jerk chicken seasoning. Yeah.

And I'm like, maybe it's the way they killed it. They just grabbed it by the neck and shook it up and down really hard. And that's why they killed it. But evident that's more of an American thing jerking the chicken, which has nothing to with food, but I won't go into the ingredient. Anyway. It's a style on the grill, kind of on the charcoal grill and their chicken, yeah. And there's the Jamaican patty, which is a pastry, I guess. Yeah, it's a pastry, but everywhere, mostly, and they don't make it at home either.

Most people have, there's a famous place in Jamaica, they call it. mother's patty, and then they'll supply locals, different little restaurants or little stores that will sell the patties locally. But they don't usually make it at home per se. Yeah. All right. And so you do you do have some recipes in the book. Do I understand that correctly? Yeah. People can use and copy and make their own dishes. Do you? Okay, cool. Yeah. Talks about your journey and your life. And it seems like if you know how to cook well, your life goes really well because you eat well and you can feed other people and they're going to be your friend anybody who'll feed me i don't i don't you say i'm i'm a sing i'm in single all my life you say a woman

says homecooked kneel to me i'm there i'm like you know the same to the heart is through the stomach my married friends are like ever one time my i i my business partner's girlfriend you used to make one of the best turkeys ever. And she would for Thanksgiving and she would base it like forever to make sure it didn't dry out. And it was the most moistest turkey I'd ever had in my life. And I remember whenever she made Thanksgiving, she was like, oh, Chris, he's never going to come in the living room and watch the game. He's just going to be in there picking of that turkey. And man, I would do that. I stay in there picking at that turkey. It was so moist. And I never had good moist turkey like that before. and they used to give me a bad time.

Yeah, Chris, and Thanksgiving, he just stays in the kitchen and picks apart the thing. But, yeah, sadly, it's hard to find people to even cook nowadays. Especially here in America, we just go and McDonald's. You know how you'd say family gather together and they'll be eating and talking and stuff. When I cook, you wouldn't be talking. You don't want to be disturbed. So just quiet.

but one of my best in New York, she just sit there and just be eating. That's how I am. You give me good food. I'm out of your mouth. I'm busy eating, man. I'm eating. I'm coming back for more.

Yes. You guys do cow foot stew? I guess that's an African influence. Yeah, they do cow foot. And it's not really tender either. So they cook it. They boil for a long time.

But I imagine you have to. I've helped my friend change the. shoes on the cows and the horses. I don't, do they do them with the cows? Maybe I'm just thinking horses. Not just like hoops. Yeah. Yeah, you'd have to, you'd have to boil that for a while to break that down.

It's not tender. They're going to chip as well. In Manish water, goat head soup. I think you're rolling stones. Yeah. That's good. That's good. Some of the,

the meat that they use is not the regular part, like not from the leg or the shoulder or whatever. Do they really put a goat head in it? But they chop it up, to be honest, I'm not the best with that. Because I want to look and to be like to cover a row and the eyes. No, it would turn me off. But I've bought it chopped up already and make the soup and it is delicious. And they use that at usually for functions like a christening or like weddings and stuff.

You have to have that at a wedding for sure, Mammish Water. Tough being a goat. in Jamaica. So now I think you have some other books you're working on. Do you want to tease those out? Tell us maybe a little bit about them. It's up to you. Yes. So I'm writing a book, the white coat that grows from Dahl House to the end. That's about my daughter. She's a fourth year general surgeon resident right now. And she's pursuing, she wanted to be a car their thoracic surgeon. But since she was five years old, I saw her display all that she had a little white coat And she had a little Fisher Prize set that she would use, get the toy needle and give her patience for the dolls.

She was one of the people that committed early to what she was going to be when she grew up, huh? Yes, yes, for sure. I saw that. Five years old, she did that. And she would sound like a heart that they don't have. They'll see her doing it. And then a temperature that they didn't have either. But she did that.

And I remember when she was like 12 years old, there was something that happened. It was a disaster in Haiti. I think it was either an earthquake or hurricane was there. Oh, yeah. Volunteer and doing stuff. And she said, Mommy, I would like to do that. And her name is Sanjay, but it's spelled differently. Oh, really?

She said, and J-H-A-I. And she wanted to do serve the underserved communities and stuff. So she always said she wanted to do that. So when she was 12, she did express that continually. Because she always told me, when watching TV, if there was anything, I'm screaming. She said, she said, Mommy, you can't look. Since she was really young. So I know she cut up for it, like the heart.

She says nothing stimulates her more than when she did our different rotation, different blocks and stuff. That's how she pursuing it. And then there's one other book I'm writing, the name that's above all names. And she could write and she'll write her own books as well. Probably her and I probably do one together. The difference or similarities with like her path versus mine. But the name that's above all names, she was, we pray every night before bed. And so that morning she was traveling, she was going to her friend's wedding in Vermont.

And she was in Pennsylvania and drive. that morning it was raining and so she the vehicle hydroplane and she got in an accident that the vehicle was mashed up and they stopped totally and but she said while it was happening she knew the airbag was going to go off any minute and she put her hands and she called upon the name of jesus said jesus jesus and she said the vehicle just stopped the airbag went off and she came out with just like a room burn it's not even a cut or anything on her hand so i'm grateful because that's my only child and if it was otherwise it would have been devastated. I'm writing on that because there were several when she called the the to report the accident,

then the insurance company, Geico knew of this spot because several accidents happened there before. Oh God. It's one. Plus, yes, and plus when the trooper, the police came, then he mentioned that his friend's mom passed away there as well. So, um, grateful and give God things that, you know, it wasn't. And thank God we had airbag. But the Lord, yeah, the airbag went off. Yeah. I've never had one go off on me and they're kind of dangerous too.

It's probably good. She folded her arms maybe. I don't know how that whole thing works. Don't, don't write me, folks, if that's not the appropriate thing to do. I'm not a professional in airbag deployment. So I'm just to probably hurt. Lincaster. I don't know.

things. I just make suggestions on the show. Consult your own legal counsel, folks. No, that's great that she survived. And what a great story. And, you know, sometimes these things do. I remember when I was a kid, they would always ask us. And it was kind of, it got to be annoying as a kid.

I don't know how most of us felt. But I got annoyed by it because they'd be like, what do you want to be in? You grow up. And you're like, you firemen, you say all this stupid crap. I want to be an astronaut. I want to be president. Your parents are like, you'd be president someday. And you're like, I'm not going to do the jokes.

I want to do. Anyway, because it's 2026, and I think you know the jokes that I would do. Those of you watching this on YouTube 10 years from now, probably know. Oh, goodness. And it's not funny anymore, probably. Anyway, have fun in the tunnels. So you're going to put those books out. Do you have a timeline anticipated on their release? No, I don't know when.

Okay. Yeah, but close. One is close. The white coat, that one's close. Yes, stay tuned and follow up on my love is the meaning, greedy, Angel. site and stuff will be updated from there. Yeah. So as far as say, so the books, yeah, it's on Amazon and it's on Barns de Novel as well. And I think they make great gifts. The book is just the love is the main ingredient book. And I think also one could

Thanksgiving is coming up in Christmas. They could do a gift basket and put the book and put some fruits that's in there and it's someone's favorite. So for if someone could bring that or for Christmas they could give make a gift for their friends or family but they'll feel the love from love is the main ingredient definitely they'll feel a love from that book for sure

I'm feeling longing love and hunger I think it's Argentinian that's by me it's called Red Fuego I think it is and I believe they make Argentine type food and they have the plantains that we talked about early in the show know, fried plantains.

And boy, you got to be careful of those things. You can eat them. I don't. It's sweet. Yeah. I should look into the calories of what's in the 15. Don't look into the calories. Don't look at it.

That's a bad. That's why they're so good. No, why is everything? They're so good. Everything is so good tasting to be so bad for you. But I think they also make a form of jerk chicken in Argentina and weigh. I'm not sure. I think they call it jerk chicken.

But it's kind of that sort of seasoning that's on. it and boy I really love it. I love any food. I'm into any food. I'm a single guy. So anything that's home cooked or could be cooked well in a restaurant. I'm living in a high life. So yeah, what do you say they need to find me a woman who can cook a mean cook? I might have to go to Jamaica. If you would stay put if you would stay put because for sure you would get some good food. So women used to know that. The way to a man's heart is through his stomach. If a man knows that a woman can feed him and their future children and the substance, that one's getting a ring right there.

Yes. Maybe. Anything more we want to promote on your website or anything you've got going on? Any services, coaching, consulting, speaking, any of that stuff we want to plug before we go? Not really, but I want to shout out to all my friends and family that supported me. with its book besides, well, my daughter is Sanjay and my husband is Sean, but my best friends, they live in New York and New Jersey, and my cousins, so Thai, Pam, Zinga, Betty, Trudy, those are the New Yorkers, and then New Jersey, my cousins, Bobby and Teneas, Bernardine, and then my godmother live in New York as well, and my cousins, and my one brother live in Canada. I'm all shout out to them. And I have my cousins in Florida, Terry and Marsha.

They put the book on their page or whatever and promoted as well. And my friends and family from church, my church here in North Carolina, the WIP to Cross Ministries. Yes, I don't want to, I don't know if they want me to call their name or not. And I have friends from the restaurant, a daughter and mom, they purchased the book already and let me know. They said they have to purchase another one because the daughter is going off the college. And so she said, Mom's not going to let her bring the book because she want to keep it. So they're just going to purchase another one.

So I just want to shout out to them and give thanks and give thanks to the Lord for this opportunity. Thank you, Chris, for having me. And I just want to say thank you. Thank you. It takes a village to raise people and do a journey. And it's good to have lots of people because, yeah, we used to have this thing. where he used to do Friendsgiving in Vegas. In Vegas, there's a lot of single people,

because people come there for the work and the money and sometimes just the drugs. They come for all sorts of trouble. Vegas is anything you want you can get in Vegas, and it's not all legal, but it sure seems to be. But we said this big Friendsgiving, and it was like Thanksgiving for people who couldn't get home to their families or didn't have families. Or their families just didn't talk to them anymore, like my family.

That was the day. But we would cook all this food and some of my models and girls would be there cooking and just put on this palatial sort of huge spread, huge tables. It was just so wonderful to spend time with people and eat. Even when you were strangers, you felt like you knew them because there was that camaraderie that would come from that meal experience. We need to do more of that. Yeah. We need to have big meals. I don't want to do Friends Giving because she doesn't get to come home like every.

So they rotate it. Like if she'll get the Christmas off or New Year's, if, for Thanksgiving time, she's there. So unless I go there, then she'll, they'll do Friendsgiving, have some ham and turkey and nine, but she always misses my cooking. She never liked the school lunch when she was little because they can match up to me. So she doesn't eat. Oh, that would be. She's the worst. That's cool.

I don't want this. And then I'll pack her and say, Yeah. Peanut butter and jelly sandwich. That's what was our backup plant because she did a, what, the school lunch goes. That's not good. I've had the school lunch. In fact, I have the old old school lunch they used to give it where pizza was healthy

and fried, overfried foods and fine pounds of fry sauce and you never knew what was in the mystery meatloaf. All the lunch ladies, they're kind of nice people, but they're back there, they're and all smoking a cigarette. Probably the ashes are going into the spaghetti and Sonia for the day. Is this a cigarette butt? Oh, eat your meat.

It's cooked in. You look at those poor ladies. I don't know. I don't know why they would have those ladies. And they just look like, you're just like, are you okay? Anyway, you always wonder what they're up to with the food. But it seemed to be,

it seemed to be okay for serving a bunch of, stupid kids in high school. But yeah, some of it was so fatty. I just think of some of it nowadays. And I'm like, geez, I wouldn't eat that now. What's what's going on? They try to get a little bit more healthy. Yeah, I think schools have done that.

They're like, yeah, maybe we should give them real bread. But for us, it was always like pizza, fries, burgers. It was like, I'm no wonder I'm fat. I'm suing my high school. All right. It's been fun to have you on. Angeli, anything more we want to plug before we go. No, it's Chris.

So, thanks, thank you for having me on. What is this? What? What is this in my hand? Let me see. Let me switch to the other camera. I'm looking at your book. A spoon, I think.

All right, so I'm trying to spoon. Is that a serving spoon? Is that a serving spoon? Is that a really big? Yes, because from the rest of it, I still use it at home, but yeah, I said I'll drop the spoon after the interview. I thank you. So much for having me. Thank you.

And it was my pleasure. Thank you. You did great with the questions as far as the Jamaican food. You look pretty adjunct. holding that spoon too and actually a little bit formidable do you ever use that spoon when the kids got out of hand you chase them around the house with that spoon see maybe I grew up with those kind of parents in the 60s and 70s my dad was taking his belt off my mom would chase around me with those one of those wooden spoons but we learned a lot of important lessons I think made sure

for sure sometimes we just I don't know sometimes you like the beating and we would we get bored his kids and we're like, let's piss off mom. We used to do this thing where we would get in a runner stance. You know how you get in a stance so you can sprint off? Then we'd say something we knew would piss her off and it was a game to see if she could catch us.

And of course, the game ended with us getting the shit beat out of us, but we kind of did ask for it. But it was fun if we could escape her or, you know, you trip your brother and he gets left behind. It's kind of like with a bear. You just knock over your friend and keep running.

But yeah, I could see that with the spoon. I'm like, she's a little too active with that spoon. Yeah. She just used that for cooking. When I visited Jamaica once before, and I brought my daughter down, and it's a girl, she's six months younger than I am. And she said, you think you could beat me still? Because I used to give them 10 words to learn to spell.

And if they get one incorrect, I used to rule it. And they get all of them correct. So she said that to my daughter. order. Maybe we need to make a second book on Jamaica discipline. Yeah, parents used to, but I didn't really get the, because I was well-behaved. All you'd have to do is waive that, me, and I would be compliant. No, she's, I can see she knows how to use that spoon in a dangerous way, so I'm going to be good. I'll comply with whatever the rules are. Thank you very much for coming on the show,

It's been a lot of fun to have you. And now I'm just hungry as hell for Jamaican food. So I'm probably going to find, I'm going to go on you. You're going to have to get something. I got to get me some of that jerk chicken. I love chicken. Chicken really works for me. I don't know why.

Yeah, I can eat red meat and it feels like it. It juices my muscle. You're working out. But for some reason, chicken just turns into muscle for me. I don't know what, whatever yard bird does. Try the jerk chicken. But you like spicy, though, or not too too spicy? I love spicy. I love spicy.

I love spicy. Habineroles. They have a spicy. Jamaican seasoning. Anything spicy I'm into. Thank you very much. And thank you for coming to the show. We really appreciate, Angelie. Thank you so much for having me, Chris.

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