The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Loving Black Women by Larry Ukali Johnson-Redd

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

Loving Black Women by Larry Ukali Johnson-Redd https://www.amazon.com/Loving-Black-Women-Larry-Johnson-Redd/dp/B0F7VMZFCW/ Larryukalijohnsonreddbooks.com Synopsis: “Loving Black Women” is a two-fold book about realigning our awareness to improve the way brothers and sisters love each other, and about overcoming racial discrimination, political domination, and white supremacy. It is Johnson-Redd’s strong opinion that African-Americans need to understand Africans in America, to experience nurturing and wholesome relationships despite how African-Americans have been discounted. He elaborates on what he calls the golden question…how much do these oppressive situations impact the _expression of love among people of African heritage in America? He believes that only if we face the future as a united people will we truly overcome and learn how to express pure love. With five headers, Brothers and Sisters: Facing the Future Together, African Identity: African World, Sister Praise Poetry, Black Love: Spoken Word, and Loving Black Women, he covers a multitude of issues and assertions about life and love. After these indigenous words, Johnson-Redd takes readers on a poetic journey. Fighting in the Street is a plea for people of color to stop killing each other. No Matter compares and relates the differences or similarities between Tribal war and civil war. Black Love Spoken Word and Loving You All Seasons, challenge brothers and sisters to ‘pull up’, and learn to embrace each other so as a people we will have a sequel. LOVING BLACK WOMEN is a seed that will hopefully fertilize our dreams as our ancestors’ blood fertilized this land, to produce acute awareness and cogent love. This is a concise, thought-provoking read that enlightens, educates, and embraces us as a people. Reviewed by Ann of the Rawsistaz Reviewers (http: //www.rawsistaz.com/ Autobiography: Larry is a High School Diploma Teacher at Pittsburg Adult Education Center in Pittsburg, CA, who has written nine books in his lifetime, including an Autobiographical novel, poetry, and several books of different genres.

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Larry has spent the majority of his life advocating for and participating in educational initiatives. As the author of eight books, he focuses his commentaries on cultural, political, local, and national and international issues as well. A prolific writer, powerful communicator, and sought after speaker, he's available for lectures, interviews, speaking, and media engagements. Welcome to show, Larry. How are you?

I'm very good. Fine. This is the latest thing that happened on November 1st. It's called the International Impact Book Awards. I won that because of this particular book here called Black Self-Lawspoken Word and Reparation. That was the first time I won an award. That's a cool-looking award. Yes, thank you.

Is that a giant hook? Is that what that is? It's actually, you know, I guess you would call it a giant hook. It looks a little bit like a hook, but it's kind of cool-looking, though. Yeah, yes. Massive. Unusual. Congratulations.

Give us your dot-coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs? U-K-A-O-I-Johnson, Red, Books, as well as, as, it's. at Amazon. And all of my, I have 10 books on sale at Amazon and nine of my books were on sale at Larry Ukali Johnson Red Books. Com. And of course, including this one, you call it Loving Black Women. I'm so happy that this book is finally getting out there. Mm. Congratulations on getting the book published. Tell us about this book. Give us a 30,000 overview of what people are going to find inside. This book is a book straight out of my heart.

And, of course, my first black woman that I was in love with was my mom. But as I grew up, I began to spread that love to my sisters, my cousins, as well as to the pretty girls I saw in school. Ah, yeah. Yep, there's lots of beautiful women out there in the world. Oh, yeah. And at first, about 12 years old, I read a poem, Some of Sweet, Some Fine, but I dig them all just to say. same. I can't remember the other 25 stanzas, but at a young age, I had a great admiration for black women. Yeah, black women are beautiful. I mean, all women are beautiful. Most all women are

beautiful. Let's put that way. But, you know, I mean, every guy has different attraction modalities. You know, probably every woman's beautiful to somebody. Let's put it that way. And the, what was the impetus for writing this book? Was there an aha moment that you're like, I'm going to put this into a book for it? Yeah, I had visited Sacramento and I met this master, a poet named Terry Moore. And he kind of inspired, you know, that part of me that had kind of sunk down into my soul because I was more or less a Black Liberation Freedom Fighter type of poet at first. And then after I met Terry Moore, got more inspired to write about loving black women.

And the book just came out of me, and it's made up of an essay about how we can have approaches to black unity around the world. And then from there, it dips into the kind of love that we have here for African American women who have stood beside us, you know, when we were enslaved, but also as we came out of slavery and have been enjoying freedom for 100 years. And give us some details on what were the aspects of, I mean, some of these things seem obvious. I mean, and they have features. So what do you find is the standout thing for you? The standup thing for me was when I first got out of a university called Golden Gate University and USF. And, you know, I was trying to get a job in America. And each time the job would melt after one year, you know, at house up.

and Ford Motor Credit. So then I said to my late wife, let's go to Nigeria, you know. And so at that time they had a consulate in Nigeria and they interviewed us and they sent us there, me as a government teacher and her as a worker. And so by living in Africa, I got an overall admiration expanded for black women.

And I had to write about it because they got some pretty girls in Nigeria just like they have some pretty girls here. And, you know, pretty sisters. If I could share one with you, I would. Sure. I went to Atlanta one day with my original publisher named Ichabari M. Zulu out of Los Angeles. And he asked me, he said, oh, brother, do you need some help with your neck? I notice you turn around looking at all these girls in Atlanta.

And I said, no, but I did write a poem about it. It's called Bike Candy in Atlanta. The girls and women are so pretty in this chocolate city. So many pretty smiles, dressed in the lady styles, and the sisters are very intelligent. Talking to a sister is time well spent. In the city, there are blacks rule, and many folks go to school, and all the pretty faces in so many different places.

On the streets, clubs, and malls, see pretty intelligent women, and not just pretty dolls. In the home of Coca-Cola and even Fanta, see all the eye candy in the Sisters of Atlanta. I heard, I think I heard this years ago, maybe pre-COVID, but someone had told me that I believe Atlanta, yeah, I think Atlanta has the ratio of men to women.

There's so many more women than there are men, 10 to 1 or something crazy like that, like 5 to 1. Especially in the work world. Is that true? I said, especially in the work world. Yeah, yeah. That's all I saw was women all over the place. You know, men, women, beautiful women.

Yeah. Very intelligent women. I loved all types of women throughout my life. And my friends were saying, you should move down to down here. Because there's five to one ratio of women to men. And like, all the girls are trying to find men. And I was like, yeah, man, it sounds like a place for me to go. Yeah, they're like, you can have a harem going and everything, Chris.

I'm like, I'm moving now. But the only thing it keeps me for moving is that you guys have that humidity. And I used to have a girlfriend who, who she flew for Delta. She was a flight attendant manager. And so she always had to go down to the Delta hub down there. And she used to tell me the bugs are huge down there, like car size. Oh, my. And then you guys don't drive too well when it snows.

evidently. I've seen that movie. Wow, yeah. I'm definitely not a snow. I mean, why would you guys? It's worn down there. It's not supposed to be snow down there. It brings your old freeways to a stop. I definitely enjoy Atlanta. And if I ever go again, I know I will enjoy it because there are just so many beautiful sisters.

Take a box of condoms and radial tires for snow. I don't know what that means. Anyway, I mean, you can alternate with it, too, if you run out of one the other, evidently. It's all rubber. really. What do you think about it? I don't know. I've jokes or Chris. So you guys, there's five headers in this. Now, are these poems or stories? Actually, the headings, you know. And so there are also the heading about the story called Black Unity around the world. You know, brothers and sisters facing the future together. It's kind of giving people a warning that we

need to come together as opposed to having all these fist fights because when they first brought us to plantation. We fought each other for the entertainment of the master. We fought each other because we didn't like each other. So we have to get away from that. And so that's where the book is beginning. But then it comes to the main part of the book, which is sister, praise poetry. And, you know, there's just so much more that we could give each other in terms of love than we do. And so if we love each other more, we'll get along better and we'll make more progress. in this society. And that's what the lead is. Yeah. Now, is there not a lot of good love going on in the, in the environment down there? You know, I know dating's hard across the board, across the nation.

There's a lot of hardness of people not marrying, not having kids, not dating, no, you know, men and women don't want to talk to each other, you know, people, people in the streets and lions and tigers and bears. Oh, my. There's lots of bad things going on in dating world. Is that, Is that what you're trying to maybe address with this book, is to help people want to come together? Yeah, there are a lot of things going on in the society as a whole, but in particular between African-American men and women. Like right now, there's such a great rate of incarceration of African-American men, but for little or no drug use. And there's such a big division between people who are successful and people who are not.

And so that mostly falls that the women are more successful in life. life than the men in terms of jobs and making money and all of that. So the thing was that during the beginning of hip hop in the 2000, 80s and 90s and then 2000, there was a lot of stories about black women being called bees and ages, you know, by the hip hop artists and also by brothers and sisters in the street. And so we just had to bring it into that because if we kept going in that direction, we were going to go apart.

So this was meant to bring us back together, to give our sister the respect, and also to get the brothers to respect the sisters, and to bring us back together. And that's what this effort was led by. It's a wonderful thing to do, because we all get along, rising tide lifts all boats,

and, you know, celebrating loving black women, you know, women hold the womb, the future of their species and the propagation of it. Without them, we all be screwed because we all came from a mom and a dad too technically. But, you know, without the, without that whole womb thing, you know, it's not a lot of places to put us between where that first nine months. Yeah, and I have this piece called Speak Jazz Please.

And it's, you know, it's really kind of central to the book. Speak Jazz, please. Love the notes you squeeze. Speak from your very soul. Speak jazz, please. Play Jazz, please. please, because we are being squeezed. Play from your very soul.

Get down, please. Don't tease. Brother, play that horn all night long. Play the notes that contain our hopes. Play the bass, reflect our race, the pain on our face. Play jazz with grace. Play jazz 400 years.

Play for all our tears. Play jazz for you and me. And the years and years of fears. like a warm summer breeze, like a black woman squeeze, like the birds and the bees. Speak jazz, please. So then this goes into part two. Like a warm summer breeze, like a beautiful black woman squeeze.

You can do it hard or do it with ease. Horn player, don't tease. Speak jazz, please. Speak and let them know. Play jazz low as you can go. Play from the depth of our very souls like roots breathe through the tall trees. Play jazz like those African trees. Play for our people rising from our knees.

Play jazz three-fifths of a human being for 400 years of captivity and 100 years of trickery where they said we were free, but we knew not really. play for our souls play hot let it go when you let it go play like hot colds play so we will grow play cause we are to go for freedom in this century and attain true liberty play jazz please like a warm summer breeze like a jazz play jazz please like a black woman squeeze it's good to love black women they're beautiful Well, all women are beautiful. I don't want to get hate mail from, you know, all. Oh, winterner beautiful. Okay, all right.

Yeah, I agree with you. Totally. But it's a good point now. So I'm glad you're celebrating this. So, I mean, we always, you know, need to celebrate womanhood and, you know, especially femininity. Seems like we got a lot of masculine, like, cosplay, feminine around. And we need more feminine. So we don't need more dudes.

We've got plenty of dudes. And you've got to be good at being a dude. Self-accountable. Take that what you will. Anything more you want to tell us about loving black women before we move to the next book? I do Kelly Johnson's review. That's one of the strongest reviews I've ever received on this book, followed closely by a review called tribute to a tribute because it is a tribute to black women. You know, that was done by McCullough Godwin, but Kelly Johnson done an excellent review on this book.

And so if I ever am able to publish it again, I would have Kelly Johnson's review of loving black women in there alongside the other reviews that the book starts off with. So the book starts off with five or so reviews. And so that way you can get a good look at what the book is about and be more interested in getting it. And then you can also buy the book from Larry Ukali Johnson read Books.com or from Amazon. Amazon.com. All right. Let's talk about some of the other books you have to offer. What's when you want to throw it to us and share as well?

Long distance love. And please be very careful. Don't go into long distance love because you could easily get scammed like I did. Yeah. So that's one of them. And then the very long way to begin, it was Journey to the Motherland from San Francisco to Beneath City because how does an African-American male go teaching in Africa and how do they respect him, you know?

And so I remember the boys saying, who he thinks they be, whether or Jamaican or a black American, you know, so, and I said, oh, I can understand broken. You guys are talking broken and see in Nigeria, just like here, you can't speak a hood street or, you know, broken English in school, you know. Okay. So once they knew I understand broken, I never heard another word of broken English in school during my whole four years there. But I had a very interesting trip,

and the people treated me very well. And I was on TV, many nights, you know, local TV in Benin. I was really treated like a gentleman. And most people thought, oh, if you go to Africa, you might get treated bad. But I was really treated well. So I'm going to jump back to that book.

Let's jump back if we could to the second book you mentioned, Long Distance Love. Now, this is a, I just want to flesh a little information out on this. Now, this is a story of your second trip to Nigeria and your engagement to a Nigerian woman. Can you just give us a little synopsis on kind of how this unfolded and a little bit of what happened? Maybe they have to buy the book to find out the ending, I guess. Yes. So my late wife passed away in 85. So by 2004, I was going back to Nigeria to meet this a young lady who I've been introduced to by one of her relatives who was in Hayward.

And of course, you know, I met her father and mother, but I really didn't meet her because she didn't show me her real self. And that's the problem with long distance love. You don't get to know the real person. Whereas if it's somebody that's you are knowing and it was close, you're going to know the real person much more than you will somebody who's a long distance away. So definitely I say this is a good read because actually I went all over Nigeria during that second trip from the Ishan land to Lagos and, you know, all over Benin City.

So I really enjoyed traveling around. But I had this thing in my heart thinking that this girl was real. And she didn't let me know she wasn't real. Like when I got back to America, we seemed like we got tighter. And instead of it getting tighter when she arrived. in America. She said, I can't go and stay in your apartment now because I'm a Christian, you know, but that was like a ruse, you know, it was a full trip, you know. Of course, yeah. There's a lot of these mail order brides, once they get here, they,

they really suddenly become Americanized. And this one actually went off to Chicago and married a brother from the western part of Nigeria called Yerba Land. Wow. Yeah, so that was her, her trip. But in order for me to get it out of my system, I had to write that book from end to end. It's 220 pages. But in writing that book, I liberated myself and moved on in my life. You know, the lessons we learned. Now, the journey to the Motherland book, the one we started into, that tells the story a little bit of this one as well, or is it the same instance? Oh, no, because that was with my wife. In fact, that was with your wife. I'm sorry. My late wife, I married, I met her when I was 19 and we married about when I was 24.

And, you know, we went to Nigeria together, sit inside by side. She was a real love. However, her father-in-law said, I mean, her father, my father-in-law said, oh, I can't let you sleep with my daughter because your marriage is only in America and it's not in Nigeria. You have to do the second part in Nigeria before everything could go like that. And I said, oh, he said, yes. I said, okay, so I did a native-long-custom marriage in Beneath City. I drove to Emo State to her hometown inquiry, and I brought a gold and a chicken and several other presents.

Really? I didn't pay no diary. But what they said at the May wedding was, if you ever have trouble with our daughter, bring her back and let's sit down together and talk it over. Don't divide and don't send her away, you know. So what the real traditional. Nigerian marriage was about, was not divorce. Because now Legos and Nigeria have a fair amount of divorce, but back in the traditional times, even though it wasn't known by the British, the Africans believed in lifelong marriage. And so that's what I found out and began to value when I did

my native long-custom marriage in Emo State, in Unquiry, my late wife's hometown. So this book tells about that story and how you're going to travel. from beneath city almost full, five hours to emo state with a goat and a chicken making noise in the back seat. That's killed you. A goat and a chicken. Does your wife be like only one goat and one chicken for me? Are you kidding?

There should be two or something. Yeah. But we were being symbolic. So we were buying symbolic things, you know, things like traditional gifts as well as the goat and the chicken. And when I got there and unloaded everything, the people in Nigeria said, in Nemo State said, you're a real man to bring all of this, all these things in exchange for our daughter. So it was definitely a real situation. And I really enjoyed myself too. Wow. I might want to go to, I'm, you know, I'm single on dating. So I might want to go to Nigeria

because it's expensive to take a woman out nowadays and, you know, court her because, you know, food prices are going up, restaurant prices, gas prices, just to drive the car, I have to mortgage the house to go pick on my, you know, somebody I want to take on a date. So I'm thinking that's a good deal, a chicken and a goat, huh? I might want to go, I want to go date down there in Nigeria. I need to find a couple of those princes that owe me money, evidently according to my email, Nigerian princes. They have some of my inheritance or something. I don't know what's going on, but I'll check in with them too. Maybe they can only buy two goats and then I can really get that two goats and two chickens get me that Victoria's Secret, African-American, African-Gal-Mah, Nigerian

model, or do I need to go to three goats? How does that work? That's a question for investigation, you know? I'm going to look into this. I'll be Googling this right after the show. But I do have, you know, a new book series that I'm working on. I've already done two books. Oh, yeah.

Black self-love spoken word. And I'm working on the third book. And my future plan is to do a video documentary of my life because I spoke in Los Angeles when I was 30, Sacramento in 2006, San Francisco and Oakland as well. These are a few other places. So in those cases, I was promoting black self-law spoken word. And, you know, it's always been a thing because we have gangsters in our community and people fighting this side against. the other side, and that's always been a holdback for us. So I'm working on these projects to help bring us together so that we focus our energy on

how to unite and how to become better citizens in this country and how to get more of our rights. More rights are definitely important. Especially now with the voting rights being taken away by the Supreme Court. It's quite unfortunate what's going on right now. I think we need to wipe that whole court and start over again. and maybe some new rules and more justices. There's only, there's, when they started the court, there's only, isn't there 12 justice, or they're nine?

I think there's nine justices on. Yes, we have. And at the time, it was because we had nine circuit courts, but now we have 11 or 12 or something. And so there really should be more members according to that math. But I think we- More balance, more balance, because right now there's an imbalance in the court. And, you know, Thurgood Marshall, he was a free. freedom fighter, but this other guy, Clarence Thomas, he's taking all these gifts and trips from right winger, so he's not, you know, the same thing. And if there was a court, there was much more balance, then there's much more chance of African Americans getting their rights. But everybody deserved rights. And even if we were initially noted as being only three-fifths of a human being, we definitely are now, I mean, I got two master's degrees, you know,

in the BA. So yeah, I mean, it's not like African Americans are not equal now. We've had the work experience. I've been a teacher now over the last 30 years, you know, and I'm teaching now in Pittsburgh Adult Education Center in Pittsburgh, California. So I'm saying African Americans have grown in their statute and deserve to have not only their freedoms, but even reparations, because the Japanese received reparations of 50,000 each for being in jail during World War. And yet we've worked four or five hundred years for free and never received any kind of reparations. So the reparations definitely have to be on the table. Yeah. Yeah. It's an interesting thing. Now, you wrote two books about Obama. Tell me about some of that. Yes. Obama

couldn't do as much for us. And you'll hear people from the streets say, oh, Obama didn't do anything for us. But he did do something in terms of keeping health care because African-Americans have received a lot of different threats in the way of hair care. But also, the Republicans took over the House and the Senate in 2010. And so they actually dominated him during his time in office. And all he could do is try to negotiate to get things a little better for most of human beings. However, there was also a lot of, you know, black self-hate being practiced then, you know? I continue my struggle to have our people appreciate each other. And I had this piece called The New Majority.

What do you mean a new majority? The old majority was old, white, and right. What is the new majority and its priority amid the new majority? What is the policy of the new majority? Who is going to enjoy this American society? Is there room for all of us? or will there be deportation camps? Deportation camps like refugee camps,

like concentration camps, like human or prison camps. Three strikes in California locking away the heart of the new majority in a miserable way. In this post-racial society held back by a racist minority, where are the jobs for the new majority? Where is the black community going to build this economy? Where will old power concede? Where will poor feed? Where will 1% breed? How long will the new majority bleed? Free young brothers and sisters in prison camps or the new majority will break up the brutal financial deal. Black, brown, red, and yellow. Among us keep it mellow. The progressive white, he's a good fellow. May immigrants and people of color. African, America remains threatened by our black skin.

For too many blacks, our skin is a prison. There is a population shift. Can you see? Coloring of America with a new majority. Who will represent the new majority? How will we make everyone feel free? And the black community would ban police brutality. Remember Rodney King, they beat him like he was a thing.

And what does the new economy mean for the black community faced with massive unemployment and not enough help from the government? And for those in the inner city down and gritty from L.A. to the city of Philly, the whole majority had no pity. Can we reclaim our outsourced jobs, bring them back a job for those unemployed?

So again, Obama had his hands tied by the two branches of government at that time being held by the Republicans and the white majority. And so he couldn't have done much, but he did do something to keep the health care going. And that's still going and that's still helping a lot of people. And I, you know, I've had my own ups and downs with health care. So I think Obamacare for its impact upon America and keeping affordable health care. And now the prices of health are going on. All the way up.

Oh, yeah. So we're going to look forward to try and get a new majority together again so that we can start fighting for the rights of everybody in this country, including blacks. Yeah, yeah. I mean, rise and tide lifts all boats. Everybody gets along and think from a perception of abundance as opposed to scarcity. And, yeah, really important. These things that I have on here, these are called cowrie shells.

But see, most Americans don't know the calorie shells were used as currency in Africa when the British and all the other Europeans got there. They didn't realize Africans were intelligent enough to have a currency at that point. But these cowards shells were what traded, people traded foods and different resources in Africa before the coming of the white man. So I'm glad I did get a chance to go see Africa and feel the power of being. and black in Africa. And I just hope one day that Africa can free itself from colonialism and live like everybody else in America, live with the gold that comes out of the mountains, going to the people and the schools and the development that they have in Africa. Because Africa deserves to live like any other place in the world. And yet because of poverty, they have not yet been able to do

that. You wrote a book called Letter to My Young Brothers. Do you want to touch on what that? Definitely. And that seeks to my profession because I'm a teacher. And, you know, I saw a lot of failure with young black boys. And then Harvard and UCLA came up with this fictitious thing saying that black boys had the worst chance of success in the world, which brought me to the point where I had to challenge that. I felt I could challenge that. And so in this book, I outlined ways the young black boys can graduate despite the fact. in San Francisco when I grew up, there was a 50% black dropout rate, black male dropout rate. And so that's also led to a lot of the unfair relationships between black men and black women because many of the black men dropped out. So that is my young brother. It's a book full of poems as well as how to write a three-paragraph essay, how to write a five-paragraph essay, how to do your homework on time to be prepared.

for tests at all times, how to look up the words and definitions from Google and other related websites so that when you go to school in August, you'll go with the new definition for every word. So if you're going into the fourth grade, you know all the words that are going to be used in fourth grade by the teachers so that you are able to, you know, survive better in school, graduate from elementary school, graduate from middle school, and then graduate from high school. and then think of what college you want to go to. So this book is a guide for the next generation to help them get prepared, to help them graduate.

And oftentimes when my students are good or the first students that arrive in the morning, I would just give them a copy, you know, so that they can read this along with what I have to say in the classroom and just become more professional and also become graduates, as opposed to being a dropout. Ah, that sounds wonderful. That's really important to have. Now, some of the other books you had, Black Love Spoken Word, tell us about, you know, more about what is spoken word? How is the format of that inside the books?

In America, they call it poetry. Among the African-American spoken word has always been a way of us coming together and listening to each other. And this is a book that really has 300 pages of spoken word. And the only thing was that as I matured, I said, oh, I can't write a book with this many pages because not that many people will have that much time to do much reading when they got to go to work. But spoken word is a way of saying poetry in a black way, you know? And so this is a book of spoken word. And the thing about it is that, you know, we've had so many of the trials and tribulations among the brothers. who live on this side of town on that side of town.

And so here's a piece called, when brothers? When will the brothers get tired of beating each other down all over town, fighting each other in the flatlands and Jack London Square fighting and killing clans? When will our brothers get tired of burying each other? Are we all sister and brother? When will we stop? in each other's blood. Aren't we made from

the same precious mud? When will our brothers get tired? Whatever happened to one love? When will our brothers get tired of killing each other, my brother? When my brothers standing in each other's blood?

When my brothers made from the good black mud? So these are the kind of poems that lead us to think about not jumping on each other or beating each other up or shooting in somebody you don't know. Because too many times it happens in our neighborhood, and we got to bring it to a end so we can have more self-love

and make more progress in the society. Most definitely. Rising tide lifts up boats and everything else. And then the black expatriate in Africa is another book that you have. Yes. Now, when I wrote that book, it was when I first got back from Nigeria. Being in Nigeria, I was an expatriate,

But Nigeria is kind of a tricky country because in the south, you have people who are from the north and they're considered expatriates. You have British people from in the north and south of Nigeria, and they're considered expatrias. So I felt kind of weird being a black expatriate, and that's why I wrote the black expatriate. However, in the 1980s, when I got here before, the immigrants had come to America, most African Americans and most Americans didn't know what an expatriot. was. So that's why I had to go back and redo my book, call it, join to the motherland from San Francisco to Benin City, so that you could know upon the title what it means, because most people, Blackest Patriot in Africa,

just went over the head of America. In Nigeria, they know what the next patriot is. Yeah. And you talk about that journey as well. Lots of African discussions and everything else and all this. So how did you know you're good at being an author? and you started writing. Yeah, I had no idea. Actually, I did build a community still from the ground up

and rolled a million dollars in construction grants from San Francisco Bay Area Foundations. Wow. So I knew I had skills, you know. Yeah. But I never knew I was going to write 10 books when I wrote the first couple. And then all of a sudden, I just kept writing after speaking with Alex Haley.

And he said, you're not in their club, writing one or two books. You just have to keep on writing and never give up and you never know when you'll become part of their club, you know? So I just kept writing. Now, book 11. Book 11. Now, tell us about what's coming here in the future, I guess. Okay.

Book 11 again is about, it re-dives into having a national black, a strategic national black consensus. That was one of the things that came in the Obama books. But it kind of went over the head. of America and blacks didn't respond to it. But not only am I saying that African Americans need to have a strategic national black consensus, but every black country all over the world needs to have a strategic national black consensus

that at least 60 or 70% of the people agree upon so that we can end colonialism and come together as a race and as a people. And so that's how the book starts out. It also talks about my memories of living in Nigeria and how good people could be to each other as a way of saying, even in African America, we could be better to each other than we have been. Because I remember when I lived in Hunters Point and then I moved to Field to Lakeview in San Francisco. And the brothers in

Lakeview said, man, you look so dark. How could you be named Larry Red? Your name should be Larry Black, you know. And so we have this black, you are, a few blacks, get back. If you're brown, stick around. If you light, you're all right. We have that kind of nonsense going around in our head instead of the love and respect we should have for each other as human beings. And so those are the challenges that we try to face in the book called Black Self-Love, Spoken Word, and Reparations, Part 3. So it was a three-book series.

I wanted this award for the first book called the International Impact Book Awards. That just then when part two was already written, but then when the president made Obama and his wife and ape, that kind of inspired the third book to come out. And so the third book would be on the way. All right. We'll look forward to it. Did it anticipate a date yet? No, but it is. The first 15 pages have been typed.

So it's on the way. And as soon as it gets out there, I'll be, you know, promoting it. All right. We'll look forward to seeing that. Sure. Thank you very much for having me on your program. Thank you. And give people your pitch out to order up your book and your dot com one last time.

Okay. First of all, I'm on Facebook. Ukali, the African. You can always go to Facebook. You can see my Nigerian outfit. This is called Yoruba Daishiki. But my links are that you go to Larry Ukali Johnson Red, Books.com. That's one of my websites.

Second website is Larryukali-Johnsonread.net. So I have those two websites. Plus, you can always put my name in the search box at Amazon, and you come up to all ten of my books. So, yeah, definitely. Don't forget a guy, and I'm from the Hunter's Point Projects, and yet now I've written 11 books. So that's quite a journey in life to go from the projects at the beginning to now being a writer of 11 different books. Yeah. Congratulations. And it's wonderful people should order up your books wherever they're sold. Thank you very much, Larry, for coming on. Thank you. And have a great day.

You too, man. Thanks to Larry for coming on. Thanks to our audience for coming on as well. Be sure up his book, Loving Black Women. So you can take and enjoy chat about that. And, you know, just women are lovable. What can you say? Men are the Great Romantics. As always, my friends and family, order the order of the books. Go to goodreads.com, Fortress Christchast Christfoss, LinkedIn.com, Fortresschast Christfoss, Chris Foss, one on the TikTokity, and all those crazy places on the internet. Be good to each other. Stay safe.

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