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Episode Date: June 2, 2026Memoirs of a Human Trafficker: My Journey a Travel Guide by Peter Storrer https://www.amazon.com/Memoirs-Human-Trafficker-Journey-Travel/dp/B0FSXVP7T8 Memoirs of a Human Trafficker is a gripping ...true account of survival, danger, and choices with lasting consequences. From war-torn Cambodia and Thailand to the courts of South America, Peter Storrer shares his extraordinary journey through political upheaval, prisons, and encounters with powerful figures. What begins as a search for adventure leads into the hidden world of trafficking, corruption, and betrayal. Told with raw honesty and vivid detail, this memoir reveals the fragility of trust, the cost of survival, and the resilience of the human spirit.
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Today, amazing young man with us, we're going to be talking to about his book called
Memoirs of Human, I'm sorry, let me recut that. Memoirs of a Human Trafficker,
My Journey, A Travel Guide by Peter Storer. We're going to get in it with him and find out some of his deeds
and some of the interesting stories he has to bring to the book.
Peter is an author and traveler whose life experiences inspired his memoir,
and through his writing,
he shares personal stories of survival, hardship, and self-discovery,
gathered from across years of traveling through challenging and unpredictable environments
across Southeast Asia and South America.
His memoir reflects on the choices, struggles, and lessons that has shaped his journey,
offering readers an honest thought-provoking perspective on resilience.
human nature and life in some of the most, world's most dangerous and complex situations.
Welcome to the show, Peter. How are you?
I'm doing well. Thank you. And do you want me to free you as Pete or Peter during the show?
My mom called me Peter, and that's when I go in the fetal position and think of their...
Oh, that wouldn't make for a very good show if you did it in the fetal position. So I'll call you Pete.
So, Peter, give us your dot-coms. Where do you want people to find out more about you on the in-whips?
If they go to Peter Storer, that's S-T-O-R-E-R-E-R-com, and that gives the links to my book.
It's my website for my book, and it shows other interviews I've done as well as a cinematic book trailer I've had made.
All right.
So give us a 30,000 overview.
What's inside this book?
Inside the book.
It basically starts with my, when I first arrived in Southeast Asia, because I had served a mission for my church with Cambodian people and type.
So I decided to go back over there.
And while I was there, it starts off with things that happen in Cambodia.
They had a military coup back in 97 right after we arrived.
But we talked about our story of fleeing and had to cross over country to get out of there.
Oh, really?
So you went there as a missionary to help them and the government collapses?
Is that correct?
That happened after.
This was about four years after my mission when I went back over there.
And then, yeah, the government collapsed.
and then we had to flee overland,
and it was just quite the journey getting out of there.
And then we arrived in Thailand,
I just kind of stuck around,
and that's where I ended up meeting my wife,
and I ended up meeting different people,
and that's what led me into, I guess,
the dark world of human trafficking as well,
which entered naively not realizing what it really was.
But back then, no one talked about human trafficking,
so it wasn't really on my radar.
Yeah.
Yeah. So how do you end up in human trafficking? And what was the context of this? Because I get confused of what human
trafficking means. Some people use it for like when people are immigrants or importing trucks. And maybe I just don't know the correct definition of it. Some people, it's for women who work the streets.
How do you define it or how does it define in the context of your book and your story?
See, before I back over there to Southeast Asia, I went down to Florida and went to flight school and I learned to fly.
Oh, wow.
And became a pilot.
And then I don't know if you talk to anyone who's a pilot,
the first thing they'll tell you about themselves is they're a pilot.
Hey, it's a lot of work to earn that license.
Like, I would too.
I went all the way to virtual, multi-engine instrument rated and whatever.
So I'm a certified flight instructor, too, believe it or not.
Oh, wow.
So, yeah, so when I got over there to Southeast Asia and some of the things,
I was probably flirting with some people, some girls,
and whatnot. And I was telling, I was a pilot. And next thing I know at one of the schools,
because I taught English and I taught computers and stuff like that to Thai kids and even adults,
and one of the schools, they brought these Chinese guys in. Turned out they were like basically
the money behind these schools. These are schools for rich kids. And these Chinese guys wanted
to talk to me. And they spoke English very, very British, I'd say, like how they spoke.
eloquently and stuff. And he started asking me, inquiring about me. So you're a pilot. And I was like,
oh, yeah, yeah. I can fly airplanes. And they're like, oh, okay. And they started pushing on that,
like asking me what I thought and whatever. And then they left. And so it was like no big deal.
And a few months later, they showed back up asking me more questions and writing stuff down.
It's like they wanted to know and what was needed and what was necessary. And then they,
And I found it because they would use the word niece.
They kept saying niece when they talked about these girls that were stuck in South America
and they needed to help them out.
And so I'm not sure because they'll use the same word in Chinese or Thai or Cambodian these languages.
They say niece as well, just a young girl about that age.
So I'm not sure talking about their own personal nieces or at least at the time.
Or if they were talking anyways because they were speaking English.
They just translated directly across, so I wasn't sure.
Maybe they're trying to give you the impression that they were related,
and these weren't people that they were smuggling.
Yeah, and they said, yeah, they stuck, and we need to get them out.
And they said, we thought maybe you could fly them out of there.
Wow.
And see, being back to my pilot, all of a sudden, that's all I can think about.
Oh, wow, I get to fly an airplane.
Yeah, I get to fly and meet girls.
Yeah, exactly.
Montel Williams used to come to Utah where you're at.
I think, do you still live in Utah?
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
I was going off your shirt.
Still, it used to come to Utah with his plane,
and he would pick up the girls of the Mark Street Grill
and take him on his plane.
That was his closer.
I had a big modeling agency,
so that's how I know that data.
Yeah, I was going to say,
you got your license in Florida.
You could have went with cocaine shipments,
and I'm just doing jokes.
That's what we do here on the show.
I do the same thing.
Okay, part of the book,
when the police there in Guyana showed up,
part of the thing they started ripping the seats out of the plane and and they were all cut up and i was
like how these seats get cut up and that's what it dawned i mean it's like i don't even know what
these people really sent me for so i kind of started crap myself a little bit and there was no
drugs or anything but but that's what they were looking for i think one of the things they were
looking for yeah you got one of those little cessnas or something what what type of plane where you're
flying so people can picture this in their head was it a susan 310 it's a twin and small
four-place twin-engine like twin that I was supposed to fly it never got off the ground
and I'm not even sure if it did fly I yeah I it the electronics work I flipped on the
power switches and everything during my walk around I heard the gyro spinning up and all that kind
of stuff I saw the radio flash on it had a radio frequency but again like I said I
never tried to start the motors because about that time that's when all the police showed up
yeah now so we want people to buy the book so they can get the full store
But can you give us a little tease out?
Like, how long did this take place that maybe you were doing these flights?
Or did you get past the first one?
What happened there, if you can tell us?
Yeah, that's something.
When I got there, I was told, like I say, I was going to get these guys' nieces.
When I got there, there were two Chinese girls, didn't speak a bit of English.
I speak very little Chinese.
And so we didn't really communicate.
I was told there was a Chinese guy there.
His name was Mr. Tiao.
And he said, okay.
tomorrow I need you at the airport.
I will pick you up and take you to the airport at 1 a.m.
And they showed me the airplane that day.
And then I waited and waited and waited and no one showed up.
And the airport was just right down the road from the hotel I was staying in,
which actually belonged to this Mr. Tiao.
And so I left the hotel and I walked over there.
And there was a guy there that I'd never seen before.
And the two Chinese girls that I'd met once already,
I said, okay, I guess I'll start doing my walk around.
the plane, you know, that's a normal thing you see pilots do to make sure the aircraft is airworthy.
And I was doing those kind of things. I flipped on the power, and I heard the gyro spin up.
I saw the radio frequencies light up in the thing, but I didn't have a headset.
So I guess I would be using a handheld or something to talk to because I saw one of those
there, you know, attached the radio. And I was just looking on the inside, look at the fuel tanks
where they were showing how much is, and I hadn't even gotten to the outside to do my walk around
the outside yet when it was a white 1970-ish-type land rover came sliding up and all these black-clad
night-ops-looking guys jump out with machine guns and they're pointing them right at the plane
oh wow yeah and so i got out and that guy that was there that i didn't i'd never seen before he was
he just put his arm straight up in the air and the thing was msau and those people were
curious why aren't these guys here no one picked me up i had to walk over there and the girls
So we're all just kind of like the girls started crying and they told us to get down.
So I got down on my knees and I put my hands behind my head and the girls did the same thing to the left of me.
And that other guy just stood there with his hands in the air.
And they speak, they say they speak in Guyana English, but I called it Jai.
It might be more like a Creole English, like Haitian speak a Creole French where it's not real.
Yeah.
Because I only understood maybe 50% of what they were saying.
I think I heard them tell that guy to leave.
And he took off running.
And then me and the girls, then they came and they grabbed us.
They cuffed me.
They didn't cuff the girls, but they put us in the back of the Land Rover.
And then they took us down to a police station, which is kind of like, it's like a John Wayne movie.
Like in the old.
Yeah, it was pretty rickety and just wood.
and there was a lady sitting there at the desk
and the first thing they did is they dragged me into a back
room and started interrogating me.
Wow.
And so they go
from there. So this is a story about
the whole adventure of what you go through
in this thing.
And I guess you find
at one point that
you were told by the
Chinese gentleman in Thailand
and the reality in
Guyana didn't add up
when you realized it. Was that when those
the police showed up then yeah i things weren't because it mr tiao he kept asking me when
once i arrived he kept saying hey where's where's my money i'm owed money where's the money that
the guys in in in in hong kong he kept calling and i think that's where they originated from the chinese
guys that i met in thailand oh it's stated in hong kong but he kept asking him where the money was
and i i don't know no one gave me any money i don't know i need my money and i go wish i could help
you. I go, I'm just here to get his nieces out. And they would kind of laugh, him and the other one.
They would laugh when you said it. It's funny, man. They're giggling. You're like, why are they
giggling every time I call him nieces? Oh, wow. He big sucker. This is, this is quite scary.
You're in a foreign country. You don't have the same rights he would have on American soil, right?
You're still an American citizen, but, you know, yeah, you don't know. Some of these,
some of these backwood countries and stuff. And this is what year was this again?
This was in 1999.
Wow.
So which was more scary or nervous fleeing from Cambodia or being incarcerated in Guyana
arrested?
I think Guyana was more scary because in Cambodia, yeah, there were people shooting each other
in the streets, bombs, extorting, but they weren't pointed at me.
Whereas in Guyana, those guys pointed them right at us.
They had to get right up to my forehead when they put me in cuffs.
And then it's just, so that was probably the most scary part.
And then I get jail, I don't get a phone call.
Yeah.
Anything.
And see, I guess in these third world countries, your family, if you're in jail,
your family feeds you.
So if you don't have no family, how do you have fed?
So it's probably about eight days with really no food.
In the morning, it's kind of funny.
Again, like an old Western, you bread and water,
they put these baguettes through the slot in the door.
Put through this water, I thought was tea, because it was kind of,
brown and it was hot and it tasted like dirt and I'd never drank tea before so I didn't know what tea
and I would tell you oh tea's nasty it tastes like dirt ever since I don't know it doesn't know it doesn't
and then it dawned on me one day because I actually tasted tea and I was like oh wow you know what
I think it was just boiled dirty water probably yeah that sounds sounds really awful that does not sound
fun so who do you believe the girls truly were were they girls are being shuttered for human
trafficking and resell somewhere else or something like they do that's what i suspect i don't know
100 percent they were about my age you know 20s i think i was about 24 at the time and they were
some somewhere around that age they were yes i i have a feeling because where i first got
do you remember that guy that owns the the patriots and he got busted a number of years ago down
at a massage parlor yeah it was a massage parlor rubbing tugs we call them in los
And that's what I first heard that.
I was like, and they were saying they were trying to do with girls.
And then they were talking.
I remember seeing his interview in the police that they were showing on the news.
And the police are like, are you aware?
And they were going to make him take classes on human trafficking.
And that's the first time is like the light bulb went on in my head.
Wait.
Those girls were meant for this.
Yeah.
And so.
Yeah.
And I don't want to give away a lot of the story because it sounds a little bit like a novel and a cliffhanger.
because you, so we don't want to give way too much.
And then what would you do differently if you had the chance?
You should have stayed in Florida and moved to cocaine for Tony Montana.
Yeah.
See, I've watched Garge face too many times, folks.
No, I got to.
We got arrested, but at least you would have on phone call and get fed.
Exactly.
If there was anything I would differently, I probably, because my wife was saying, this sounds shady.
This sounds shady before I was going.
I was like, it's just a flying.
an airplane and like I say all like I got to fly an airplane this is going to be cool
I really didn't really think anything else but I think I would have listened to my wife instead
of going all half-cocked wives usually try and keep you from going off half-cocked I don't know what that
means but it sounded funny in my head we do the jokes folks yeah so you go through all this stuff
and what do you believe about public perspective concerning human traffic
and the reality of it are, to humans, do we understand what it is?
Clearly, I don't know the exact definition of it.
That's the thing.
I'm not exactly sure myself, but most of this picture, Estein Island, where there's children being taken.
Then I find out, no, these girls were adults.
And maybe they made a decision like I did.
Someone promised them something like, hey, you know, and take you to America and you get a big, rich husband.
know. You know what I mean?
Were you supposed to fly them to America? Sorry to rupture.
No, no. I honestly, I don't know where their final destination was.
Just to get them out of Guyana and they told me I was, Mr.
Sao was the one who said, what we're going to have you do is fly them into Venezuela.
Okay, taking a Venezuela. It's right next door, not difficult.
And then one thing, the guy in the embassy, when I did get out on bond and was able to talk
to some people and make a phone call to my folks to get me some money to get me out of there,
The guy at the embassy was like, wow, you're lucky you never made that flight.
And that's because that's all when all the stuff with Hugo Chavez and everything was going down over there.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so it had been a bad time to enter Venezuela.
Now, is that where you were taking them as to Venezuela?
As far as I knew, that's where I was going to be flying them to.
Wow.
Yeah, it was a crazy, crazy days and crazy times under that regime.
You go through this thing and you tell the story of everything.
What do you hope people come away with when they read the book?
book or educating people on human trafficking?
I think it's just to know that, yeah, there might, because I'm not so sure, like you were
talking about people being loaded in trucks and driven across borders, and I'm sure that
happens as well.
It's not just that.
I think you've got the kidnapped type of people that are, that were stolen.
And got ones because I'm, I think these girls believed that they were going somewhere,
probably offered something better than what they had in China.
And they thought that they were going to get somewhere.
And it turned out not to be true.
They were lied to.
I was lied to.
Everyone was kind of just, you know.
Note to self.
Don't pick up any chicks who say people refer to as their nieces.
Yeah.
I've learned that lesson.
Yeah.
Maybe another lesson is next time, do cocaine for Tony and Tanya.
Sorry.
It's a callback.
joke now. So we're just running with it. So this is pretty interesting. Is your family in Utah?
Now? Or then? Either way. I mean, my wife was still in Thailand. Okay.
With my first son. Yeah, my mom and dad were in Utah. And so like whenever I was able to make
contact with my dad and he was just like, you got to be kidding me. What the hell? The last thing
knew I was in Thailand. And he's okay. Let me see what I.
I can do and he made some phone calls.
And back then there was a senator, Orrin Hatch.
Yeah.
And he made contact with him.
He made contact with the embassy.
And then they were able to wire money.
And I still had to go back to court and see, that's the thing.
The whole thing, everyone's on the take over there.
Yeah.
I went to court.
It had nothing to do with, they never charged me with the crime.
It was just to pay them money.
Oh, payoffs.
Yeah, yeah.
Even the judge.
They called the magistrate.
magistrate and the magistrate took me into his office had me sit there alone and then basically told me here
give me this much money and i'll give you back your passport really yeah wow that is wild man
that is wild and see had to raise some money to to buy your way out of there basically is that my dad
wired it to me oh wow man i would have paid him in the monopoly money and then got out of there but
no i imagine you're pretty happy to get it the hell out of there when they released you
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
Did they even let you talk to the consulate, the American consulate?
No, not while I was being held.
Wow.
It was after I got out, I was able to talk to them.
When I got out, it was like on a bail situation.
I got out and I was told to turn in a week to go to court.
Wow, that's wild, man.
So you go through this whole experience and what lessons did you learn other than giving
your wife an eternal, I told you so moment for the rest that she can beat you over the head with
rest of your life.
The main thing I learned was, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Yeah.
Just think more about than just the aspect of flying airplanes.
Think about, you know, other things.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah. Legalities of this, that, and the other, and who you, possession is nine, tenths
law.
You got to be careful.
I always watch that cop show.
Anytime I get really depressed at life and I don't usually get too depressed
anymore, but anytime I used to get depressed back in the days and think my life was just going to
hell, even though it really wasn't.
But, you know, I just, this sucks.
You have a few vodka as you kick back.
So I had to watch cops, the TV show.
And that's where I learned you got to be careful who you have in your car, because if they
have drugs on them, you can be possessions nine, tens of law, they could slide in your seat,
and then you're responsible for it and, you know, all this stuff.
So, yeah, you've got to be careful who you allow in your vehicles and, and, and, you can be careful.
who you allow in your vehicles and all that stuff.
And it sounds like you kind of got out of there with a great story, maybe.
And that's what you're doing is your mom.
You're getting your dad's money back with your book sales.
Yeah, okay.
Plus your dad is for the rest of his life.
He probably won't let you live it down either.
So between the wife, I told you son, the dad, you still owe me that money.
Oh, yeah.
My one talks, all this is my brother, Pete.
He's an idiot.
He's the fucking a guy.
Oh, man.
We do these things in life.
This is the beauty of all the stories and authors and books that we have on the show.
You have a story that not a lot of people have.
It's an interesting story.
You live through it.
So it came out hopefully good in the end.
And you're using the book to educate people on human trafficking and dangers.
And basically that cocaine smuggling might be less dangerous.
I don't know.
I'm just too.
I don't know what I'm saying there.
How can it be less dangerous?
Anyway, Florida jokes.
Yeah.
You're probably more cautious now and you've learned from that and you be careful, right?
Yeah.
Because if it's too good to be true, it's probably not, which is also use that as a guide to all those MLMs you guys have there in Utah.
Oh!
Shots fired.
And do we lose a sponsor too?
No, we didn't because we don't take money from those people.
Anyway, my dad used to be in hundreds of those stupid things.
Oh, yeah.
Amway started with Amway.
As a kid, I was going to those things.
And there was a point in his life where I was like,
Dad, you've been in so many MLMs every week.
You was in one.
I'm like, it's one of them.
They don't just give you an honorable board member there.
But anyway, enough of Utah and their MLMs and too good to be true,
which I think, isn't that the state model?
Utah, too good to be true.
Anyway, I'm just teasing.
My mom lives in Utah and my sisters.
Get to visit there a lot from Vegas.
Anyway, is there any future books coming out maybe that you're working on or other stories now that you're an author?
I don't know.
I'd have to look through my life.
I don't know.
I'll just write through some.
Maybe write about some girls that I dated or something.
Yeah.
Your wife will appreciate that too, I'm sure.
On her yard, she pees around me all the time, gets ticked off.
I run it to someone that I dated before.
Oh, she looks stupid.
She looked fat.
Oh, that's kind of how they're wrong.
Yeah.
But it's interesting.
So you wrote this book.
How did you know that you were going to be good at being a writer?
That you were good at telling the story.
Imagine you're kind of like me.
You shaped these stories over life of getting good at telling all the details and setting up the suspense.
It was probably easy to write the book and put it down after all these years.
Yeah, because my whole life ever since, like I was saying, I'd go over to my older sister.
She'd have a friend there.
And she'd be like, oh, this is my brother Pete.
let him tell you his story about Guyana.
And so everyone would always ask him me.
So I'd retold it time and time again.
And then everyone was saying,
you need to write a book.
You need to write.
So I didn't really,
I didn't really know that I was a good writer.
I didn't even think I was a good writer.
I was just like, I'll write down my story
and just put it down how I remember it happening.
And even now, sometimes I'll read through the book that I wrote.
And I'll say, oh, dang it, I missed that one part.
I should have wrote that in there.
There's something missing.
insignificant part, but still
if you self-publish, you can go back and edit it.
If you publish through a big producer
thing there, they usually don't let you do that.
So if you self-publish, you're good to go.
Yeah. And maybe you can make a second book.
Lessons learn from almost dying and prison.
Whatever, sort of title you want to put that, that juice, as it were.
But hey, man, this is what we do.
As human beings, we get in all sorts of stories and issues and quondrums and everything else.
And we live through them and then we go tell other people, hey, maybe you don't want to do that because I tried that.
And yeah, it doesn't work out well.
So that is, which explains most of my life.
We all make mistakes.
We all do interesting things.
But it's the key that we survive, that we, the phoenix that rises from the ashes.
That's the real key.
What are some other questions that maybe I should have asked you that we should know about?
that maybe are in the book or or add to the story as it were.
Yeah, I still do fly.
I don't fly for, I'm commercial rated, but I don't do it for work.
I fly for fun, basically.
I'll flight therapy, go up in the air.
Flight therapy.
I like that.
I got a friend who flies all sorts of stuff for contract and, and he does really well with it.
And so it takes a lot of talent, skill.
I'm one of those people who's lazy.
I have ADHD, severely, and OCD.
And so I know if I ever became a pilot, I'd always skip that pre-check thing.
And then I die with ice on the wings or some crap.
I'd be like, oh, crap, I forgot to fill up the gas sake.
That's sort of crap.
That's what I get into.
But I love flight.
I think it's so wonderful.
That moment that you leave the ground and you feel the air take the wings.
Yeah.
It's just, that's the juice right there.
I love that, even on a big plane.
But I was watching, I've gotten, I guess I was doom scrolling.
last night
night before
and I got into
the Bush pilots
up there in Alaska.
Alaska.
Yeah.
Not the only fans,
Bush pilots, but the Bush pilots
in Alaska,
people like he was doom screaming
late at night.
And I started watching
because I'm always fascinated
how they can take off
with very little runway
or like riverbank.
I was watching one today
take off a river bank
and it was all just
hard river rock.
Yeah.
And I was just like,
dude.
And then, of course, you see them.
They can stop those things pretty much on a dime almost, at least the good ones.
And you're just like, I don't know, man.
But the flight's so beautiful and stuff.
Maybe you could figure out a way to use.
That's a hell of a hobby, too, by the way.
I thought my photography hobby was expensive.
But that's a whole new, that's a whole new level of expense there.
That's why became flight instructors.
So another thing for your hobby.
Yeah.
And then you probably teach them all, don't ever pick up some nieces from nobody.
Yeah, yeah, you see some Chinese girls with their thumb out, just go on by.
Just keep on trucking there.
On trucking.
So nothing happened to you in the U.S.
You didn't get any trouble for anything over here when you got back, huh?
No, no, because I didn't break any laws in the U.S.
They didn't charge me there either.
I don't think I broke any laws, period.
It was just a shakedown.
Yeah, I think the money.
Tsohn didn't get his money, and he had buddies in the police force there, so just.
Do you think the one guy who had his hands up early on?
Do you think he set you up or turned you in, maybe?
The whole thing was a money set up.
Yeah, I think he was an associate of Mr. Touse,
and I think I'm not 100% sure,
but I think the airplane belonged to him.
Oh.
And it's, if the airplane belonged to him,
then why the hell they need me to fly it?
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
He'd fly himself, but I don't know.
All that.
So I just think that he was, he was just there.
He was there along for the ride,
because how was that airplane getting back from Venezuela?
Did they arrest him?
No, they,
him go.
Maybe he was on the take.
He set you up as the fall guy because you were the pilot.
Yeah.
He's not, I don't know, I'm just here to fly out on a plane.
That's all we'd always tell Spirit Airlines.
Yeah.
Or he used to tell Spirit Airlines when they were in Codboard.
Still in business.
In fact, I think you can pick up some of those planes, the Spirit Airlines planes on Facebook
Marketplace, like 50 bucks or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can I fly with one of those?
727, yeah.
Get one for the, get one for the backyard.
turn an Airbnb. There's a lot of them
they probably have. They're probably, but they're
spirit airlines, so they're probably
smelling like a Greyhound bus after
12-hour trip. You're in, poop, and
what else? Now I'm going to get sued by Greyhound.
But you can't sue me for something's true.
Anyway, that's not right, Chris. There's wonderful people
that ride the bus.
Yeah, I wrote the bus. I like how you said,
I like, you finished my setup on it. You're like, yeah, sure.
I had some friends that went a Greyhound bus.
And when I dropped them off, I was like, is it all homeless people in the lobby here?
And they're going to be on that bus.
And then they told me some stories.
And I'm like, yeah, I think I'll hitchhike from here on now because I don't know.
Yeah, you get hepatitis.
Do you ever think about going back maybe?
And I don't know, prosecuting the judge took the bribe or you just washed your hands of it.
I don't want nothing to do with that.
How am I going to go and prosecute a judge in a rural country?
where he probably owns the town
and maybe he was collecting when I
paid him that was some of the money supposed to go to
Mr. Tau. I really don't know how
you know. At least he didn't ask
for sexual favors. That's what happened
to me and Tijuana.
I was down there with a buddy and
no, I'm just kidding.
Do a donkey show?
Yeah, it was the donkey show
and my buddy was caused
in trouble and anyway, that's
the joke I always tell when people meet me at
parties and stuff that are hosted by
someone. They're like, how did you and John meet?
I'm like, it's a long story.
Kind of sorted.
I probably shouldn't tell it.
I'm like, oh, you got to tell it.
I'm like, we met in Tijuana at the donkey show.
And then he got drunk and we were both pretty messed up and they arrested us.
And then we had to become drug traffickers with our bodies.
I forget what they call that term.
And walk the drugs across the border.
So when you lay next to a table where they're filling your bowels with,
and your colon with the cocaine, backs of cocaine.
And then you have to walk across the border with them with another person.
You become really good friends.
And we've been friends ever since.
And people just look at me like, what?
What the hell story?
When was John and Tijuana?
A lot of years ago.
Anyway,
Eijuana jokes, folks.
That's where I get my Scarface references from.
Anyway.
There's a lot of cocaine jokes and there's no cocaine in your book,
in your story, evidently.
in your story, evidently.
So I don't know why I'm pulling that card, but it's a great callback.
Anything more we need to know about what you're doing there?
Are you doing any speaking, touring, telling people about your book, book signings, anything like that?
You're the second interview I've done regarding my book.
And then, yeah, I would like to see if I could get it into film.
Yeah.
Talking to people, but I don't know what's going to happen with that.
What was that movie with Tom Cruise?
And I never watched.
I just always see pieces of it on the social media there.
But evidently, he's the pilot or something,
and he gets recruited by the CIA or the drug dealers or both.
I don't know.
I haven't watched the movie, clearly.
Maybe it could be a story like that.
You can get Tom Cruise to play it?
I need someone who's 24 when I was 24.
Can he pass for 24?
I think he always looks so young.
He doesn't really age much.
A lot of those guys, they get so much plastic surgery.
I'm more ass on their face than face, so who knows.
I think he's still four foot tall, so there's that.
Anyway, I like to do my Tom Cruise jokes on the show.
So as we go out, give people a pitch-out.coms, where websites,
they can find out more about you and order up the book, et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah, it's just peter store.com.
That's spelled peter, s-t-o-r-r-com.
And that'll, you can also go on the Amazon or go on to Barnes & Noble.com, and they have it as well.
Mm.
Get one for your favorite niece.
That's what we do.
All right.
Thank you very much for coming the show, Peter.
It's been wonderful to have you.
And like you say, stay away from anything that's too good to be true.
That's why I'm still single after 58 years.
Anyway, that's a marriage show.
So thank you very much, sir.
All right.
Thank you.
And thanks for tuning in.
Order up his book where refined books are sold.
You can find a link to it on the Chris Foss show.
Memoirs of a human trafficker, My Journey, A Travel Guide, out October 23, 2025.
And probably sounds like a nice suspense journey to go through and maybe a good warning sign for people.
And, of course, watch out for people that might be human trafficked and maybe help save them if you think they're in trouble.
Anyway, guys, go to goodreads.com, Fortress Chris Foss.
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