The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – New America Awakenings by Tyler Davis

Episode Date: January 21, 2021

New America Awakenings by Tyler Davis Tylerdavisbooks.com After a polarizing election, America breaks into a civil war, followed by a failed foreign invasion. Winning is not the end! New America divides into projects based on race and religion. Citizens who protest or break the laws are labeled an "enemy of peace." An enemy of peace quickly loses their head to the guillotine. Colt Jenkins resides in the New Bethlehem Project, where New American youth must navigate between Country, God, Survival, Love, Family, and Friends. Surviving daily attacks from Broken Mecca is not the only challenge. Katherine Shay, New Bethlehems keeper of the law, terrorizes citizens using the red phone, turning them into the government as enemies of peace. In a world with intermittent electricity, the President makes decrees from the television. The government controls the news and all information. The rising tension in the country and the Project puts Colt in Katherine's and the government's crosshairs. After being publicly humiliated by Katherine, Colt discovers the government is not what it appears. Colt will have to decide what kind of man he will be and what he will choose to leave behind in his race to save his family and his love.

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sorry linkedin.com and you can see all the groups there's like three or four groups over there as well as facebook as well uh so this is really cool we've've got an exciting new author that we're going to be talking to. He's not a new author. He's actually done a lot of different work that we'll get into here in the bio, but he's got the newest book he's got out. Let's put it that way. And this episode is brought to you by IFI Audio and their new Neo IDSD. The Neo is the new wave of digital sound listening for your desktop, music, gaming, and bleeding-edge Bluetooth, even MQA audio file decoding. We're using it in the studio right now. I've loved my experience with it so far.

It just makes everything sound so much more richer and better and takes things to the next level. is an award-winning audio tech company with one aim in mind, to improve your music enjoyment of quality sound, eradicate noise, distortion, and hiss from your listening experience. Check out their new incredible lineup of DACs and audio enhancement devices at ifi-audio.com. His name is Tyler Davis, and he is the author of New America Awakenings. And he is a professional author based out of Salem, Oregon. Tyler lives with his husband, Dog, and Dog Cat. He'll explain that to us later. Tyler has been writing since he was in the sixth grade and has several short scripts produced and an internet television

series tyler is also a freelance political opinion writer and blogger some other things about tyler is he has a five-star rating on this book from the san francisco book review readers favorite reads the discovery nn light book heaven it was named a 2020 Best Book by NN Light Heaven. He's a four-star Portland Book Review and Net Galley on this book. And he's accomplished short film scripts produced, Tears for the Sun, No Red Ribbons. He has an internet television show called Villains. You can look up in his novel New America Awakenings. And he has

numerous political blog and pieces he is also i hope i pronounced this right a nephrology nurse welcome to the show how are you tyler there and you did it good well done well done nephrology nurse now i think you owe it to my audience to explain what is a dog cat um it is a cat that has been raised by dogs um he was a rescue kitten barn cat and a group of shelties took him in and raised him so he acts a lot like a dog and not so much like a cat so yeah he's a dog cat i love dogs and i i'm not that excited by cats like if i i always tell the joke if i wanted something that loves me half the time and hates me half the time i would just get married um so half might be a little too much of the love part it might be like 90 hate never

mind i'm just doing well you know whatever the algebra works out for you uh it'd probably be 100 uh hate uh for you know i'm just not i'm i'm working on me let's put it that way tyler give us your plug so people can find you on the interwebs my friend um you can find me at tyler davis books.com the tyler davis uh dot medium.com for, uh, for my blog posts. Um, you can find me on facebook.com backslash the Tyler Davis books. Um, I have a YouTube channel. I can find that from, um, the, the Facebook page as well. Um, and then of course, all of the various places that you can buy my book, Amazon Best Buy, Amazon Barnes & Noble, iBooks, Kobo, pretty much wherever books are sold. If it's not physically there, they can order it for you. There you go. There you go. And you have written a book that is certainly most topical even down to this day today so this is pretty

yeah yeah uh so uh let's start with the reason why you wrote this book and uh i gotta tell you folks stay tuned because this is going to be an amazing story that parallels our our history and our time that we're living in now well first off i off, I need to, I need to make this very clear. I started writing this book in 2015 before Trump was, was, uh, even nominated to be the party, uh, standard bearer. Um, but I, I am a huge fan, huge fan of dystopian novels and movies and cause they deal a lot with politics. And I asked myself, what if, what if our country was taken over by a Christo fascist authoritarian regime? And what if it was led by a businessman and not a typical politician. And I wrote most of the book between 2015 and 2016. And I had a life event and I had to take a couple of years off from writing. And then I finished the book in January, January, and then started the process of publishing.

So, yeah, this book is it just it is what it is. And the whole premise, this is the whole premise of what would happen to our country if there was a contested election and it broke out into civil war. There you go. So give us that overview of the book is maybe a little, a little more detail of what the book is about and the parallels of it. So the book takes place after the civil war and there was a small, a foreign invasion. And then the president takes over

the country and people are split into projects based on race and religion um because the government felt that uh by being kept with your own people it would be more peaceful. Um, you know, um, again, wrote this before, before last year. Um, and it, it, it, it's also a coming of age story of a young man named Colt. He's 16 years old. He's been, he's grown up in a white Christian project, um, that is under attack by Muslims. Or at least, you know, that's because they're very isolated. The government controls all of the media, all of the information. And it's really about him growing up in this project before he finds out really what the government is up to.

And it starts a larger journey. It's definitely not all in one book. There you go. Now, when you say not all in one book, is there a continuing series to this book that you plan? There are three books um in in this series um so the first book is basically uh colt uh trying to decide what kind of man he wants to be living in this world um and then finding out the government isn't who they say they are um and then i don't want to ruin it for anybody so i don't want to say

the first book this is what happens by the book to find out what the hell happens yeah uh but there's uh his family is very much under the eye of the government and the local uh authority and her name is katherine um and the lots of lots of cheery stuff in it like you know guillotines and and oh my favorite oh you know it's it's a holiday favorite right um and you're disagreeing with the government comes at a cost of your life does it seem a little uh i don't want to say it's exactly like that, but is it a bit like 1984-ish where you're fighting an oppressive government and you're trying to find the truth? Kind of.

If I was forced to, it's kind of a mix of of 1984 and maybe like maze runner hunger games um where you know there's a larger there's a larger uh adventure for the young adult nice um but it's it definitely has the 1984 um feeling uh the portland Portland book review, when they reviewed it, said it's one of the possible Americas that five years ago would have been seen as a dystopic science fiction and impossible to actually happen. Nowadays we're not so sure. New America Awakenings makes 1984 look rather tame. It almost became a documentary.

It's funny. I had some of my pre-readers, they were messaging me like, were they looking over your shoulder? Because there are some things in this book that are just really spot on. And even a health, there's a health component in it um and i'm like you know i really should have gotten a non-disclosure out of you know and a paycheck you know damn it here you're going from novelist to historian the uh you know it's funny we've had so many authors on this year uh great authors like yourself, and they submitted most of their manuscripts to their publishers,

like back in September of, like, 2019. And as we interviewed them as their books were published, and, you know, almost a year later or nine months later, it was amazing. They were just like, wow, I knew I was kind of right, and I warned people about shit that could happen, but I didn't think it would come true. Well, you know, anybody who likes politics, and I've loved politics my whole life.

I was a second grader campaigning for Jimmy Carter, so I guess I've always been for the underdog. Anybody who's paid attention to the last 25 years could see that this wasn't a really big stretch. And when I wrote the book, I wanted to write a book that was dystopian that didn't rely on laser beams or hovercraft or having to look like Tina Turner in Thunderdome, you know, that's next year. Yeah. Well, maybe, maybe

it almost was last year. I you know what what's going to make more what's what's more scary something that looks like science fiction or something that could really happen and that tina turner though in uh in thunderdome was pretty hot i mean you gotta you gotta give that up so oh iconic absolutely iconic know, and I think if Tina Turner would have shown up in a DC dress like that, we would probably had a different outcome. I would have paid to see that. So you mentioned that this story was set after the civil war. Is it said what, what time area is it technically kind of set in?

Well, it's, it's a, it's a future. So it's not, it's not uh you know our past civil war this is a new civil war this is a civil war oh okay okay so it's kind of more in modern times when i was thinking when you mentioned the civil war i wasn't sure if it was like after the original i get these civil wars confused now because there's you know there's clearly been so many you know they're just happening with a great regularity. After January 6th. It's like, get a new idea. How many times can we defeat the Confederacy, for the love of God?

So you started this a long time ago, which is really insightful. And there are several different elements to it. We, of course, don't want to give away the whole story, but what was one of the reasons you used a guillotine in, in this, in the storyline? Um, when I, when I was a kid, um, I, I, I went to a Baptist church and, um, they, there was a, a movie called a thief in the night And it was a Christian-based film of the end times. And you either took the mark or you died. And the way you died was by guillotine. And that scared the crap out of me as a kid

and carried over into me. And I'm like, what's one of the scariest things that you can threaten someone with? Being shot lethal injection no guillotine there we go there you go uh so yeah that comes from my um that comes from nightmares of my childhood wow man the scars are but you know what's really crazy chris last summer guillotine started showing up they started showing up at events and you know i was and i was like trademark um you know but they started you know they were they were completely gone and then last year um they started showing up at at protests wow wow and Wow. And now you mentioned that they separate people in different projects based upon race and religion.

Is there two main groups or is there multiple groups? Because, you know, there's multiple religions and multiple races of people. One of the joys of writing fiction is that you don't have to account for reality. In the first book, we really only talk about two, the Muslim and the Christian projects, the two that are fighting with one another. But we do know that um there are others um out there um they use boots as a way of differentiating groups so the christians um the white christians got gold um trim on their boots muslims got purple the black population gets uh blue um So on and on. And the LGBT community got pink. Well, at least they got pink. I mean, come on, man.

Well, that's actually historic. You know, when you look back at the Holocaust. And the reason was because in war, people get shot in the head or whatever, but if their body got blown up, you could at least tell by their boots who was who. Oh, I did not know that. That's amazing. Well, in my book, that's the way it goes. Oh, is this in true history or in your history book? Because that's pretty amazing. And they have to wear boots? This is why it wouldn't work for me. I have to have flip-flops.

You would be going to the guillotine for a ceremony of peace. Just as a fashion punishment, a fashion penalty. Please tell me you don't wear black socks with your flip-flops. Chris will talk after the show we'll talk after the show let's put it this way there are people on social media that have seen pictures of me wearing socks with my flip-flops or just wearing flip-flops that do want me to go to the guillotine so that is real it's it's it's a real thing and it may be you if you ever see those pictures i i promise it wasn't me i'll talk with you first and then we'll

take you out well then we'll take you on a little trip after the show he's gonna be look either lose the flip-flops or it's um so tell us about some of the villains in the book there's a couple different villains in there uh give us some lowdown on those um so the the the big villain is the president in the government um but in the project uh New Bethlehem, and that's where Colt grows up, is New Bethlehem, is Catherine. And Catherine is the keeper of law. And she just pretty much reigns the entire project through terror uh sounds like my ex-wife you know really could apply to so many different exes um she there's something called the red phone and you can anonymously call in on your neighbors to report them.

Except for the anonymous kind of goes out the door because it's all covered in glass. But in the book, they said they put a red phone booth out in front of her house because they thought she probably used it so much they wanted to make it convenient for her. Wow. I have to be honest. She was one of my most fun characters to write. You are a sadist then. Well, I wanted to write a villain that was complex because it's so easy to make a one-dimensional

villain who's just out for you know blood or money or both um she's very complex and that she has to have um she has to have conditions for her in order for her to act. And she's completely a narcissist, very unaware of herself, but she holds all the power. And, you know, even when she has a moment of showing her humanity, it's just her humanity is just that shallow,

but she was a lot of fun to write. So we can never give too much of these things away. Is there a good female character? Oh, absolutely. So the book is kind of a contrast. You know, there's, even though the country is taken over by, you know, a Christo-fascist regime where it's now one, you know, basically they all have to follow the same religion in the Christian projects and it's used in a negative way, there is still feeling amongst individuals of, of what good Christianity is. So there is, you know, Colt's mother is, is a very strong,

very strong woman who is she's really actually pretty inspirational. And then Colt has Jenny. And Jenny is not the traditional female heroine at all. Um, in, in the, in the book for girls, dolls are a form of socioeconomic hierarchy. The better your doll, the better you're standing in society. And Jenny completely says, screw that. And decides that instead of a doll, she brings a bat. Ah, my kind of woman right there on Tinder. She wasn't going to be a victim.

She didn't care what people thought about her. Even in a society where conformity can mean the difference between life and death, she decided, I'm going to do my own thing. And so she definitely does not fit. She doesn't fit in. She doesn't fit in. She doesn't fit the stereotypes, but she has her values and she doesn't let up on those values. And she doesn't have to, you know, she doesn't have to be up front to affect change. And yeah, so there's definitely a balance she's like that old bogey movie we don't need no stinking dolls man we don't

wasn't that that was the line i don't know i don't know i'm still stuck on with black socks and flip-flops i mean it's just tragic i've just scarred you again like the guillotine you'll have nightmares for life um which is probably i mean that's just if i'm a fashionista in that way um the uh one of the things about this book that was kind of interesting is you make it okay for the characters that are boys to cry and have emotions other than just anger and strength. And so using emotions in this way kind of made it a little different. What were some of the reasons behind that and the reasons you used that with your characters? I believe that, you know, we all are subjected to emotions and that this whole concept that you know boys don't cry

is is is a myth and harmful but more so in this world that they live in this authoritarian world um emotions become an important uh an important characteristic to hold on to. When you have to be like everybody else and you have to conform and you're not allowed to have your opinions, you can at least still own your emotions. And so for Colt, it was really important for me to try to hold on to his humanity as a hero, as the hero of a story. that and have thanked me for allowing that emotion to be there because it really helps to balance out that oppressive government, that oppressive feeling.

And I think that this is true of humanity. We hold on to our emotions. It's a very good lesson. I cried this morning inaugural to be rid of rid of uh evil um but uh no it's right i mean we've actually talked a lot on the show about inclusivity and different things and issues with men and uh how we need to get better in touch with our emotions so we're not always you know running off doing stupid wars and things of that nature, and maybe we deal with whatever is skewing at us. And so I like that. It's a good setting.

It's a thing that we need to learn and turn the page on. Hopefully we enter a more gentler age with what's upon us. Certainly with the defeat of uh any fascist uh you know one of the things they bring is is male toxicity and chauvinistic ism and chauvinistic ism is that a word um we're gonna make it a word we're gonna make it a word now man poetic license is that what it's called poetic license i just took it um so anyway um so i that's good. I think it's more of that being in our media, and supporting that is really good as well. New America is split into different projects based on religion and race,

and your book has an ominous future for LGBTQ Americans. Why was this important to put in this book? Well, as a member of the LGBT community, our history has been one where when fascists come in, when the authoritarians, the fake Christians come in, the first group that they often go for are the LGBT. Trump, one of his last acts last week was to get rid of protections so that gay people could adopt. It affected elder care. God damn it. He, it just stripped a lot.

Homeless LGBTQ kids could be refused to go to shelters now. Cause all those protections were removed. And so what I wanted to do with this book to, to, so that it was believable was that the LGBT community in the beginning kind of disappears by wearing those pink, the pink stripes on your boot. Everybody knew who you were. You know, the, The government had no tolerate.

They just weren't tolerated. And we'll find more in the second and the third book. Like every other part of history, you think you got rid of us but guess what we're still here um um but it was important for me to to put that in to be realistic to say hey our history has shown this hitler uh hitler it wasn't just the jews you know there were there were other groups of people one of them were the lgbt um They had to wear the upside down pink triangle as their identifier. generally they're one of the first groups to get pegged. So it was really important for me to make sure that in this first book, we first off, we know that they exist, that they're acknowledged,

but that it's going to have a bigger, a bigger part to the overall story in the next two books. And, and I totally agree with you. I mean, we've had some great authors on this last year. They've talked about the rise of fascism and all the different fascist leaders, what they do. And, in fact, Strong Men by Ruth Bengay, I believe, if I'm recalling correctly.

Forgive me if I don't, Ruth. We recommend her book for Christmas. But, you know, she documented the profiles of so many of these fascist leaders, Pinochet, Duterte, Silvio Brescoloni, all these people. And usually fascists come to rise after a time of a lot of rise of LGBT rights, LGBTQ rights, excuse me, after the rise of women's rights. And it really is a male toxicity recourse or attack after seeing the rise of these. And of course, people that are weaker, people, you know, that maybe have disabilities and things of that nature, the rise of intellectualism and science and stuff.

And they come to beat that back. And usually that's the blowback is the fascist but you're right those are the first people they go after is anybody who's you know teachers intellectual and smart lgbtq women uh you know it just brings back all the male chauvinist male toxicity male sexuality or sexist um and uh you know it's even interesting to me like you know the recent story of of uh me, like, you know, the recent story of, of in Hungary, where the one guy who's part of that fascist new government that just destroyed democracy this year, or last year, I should say, in Hungary, turns out he's at a,

you know, he's at a gay party. I think absolutely some, you're just like okay well you're a hypocrite it never it never fails uh when you look back at the people who in in government or those top of you know top positions um who are so anti-lgbt you know there's a tap underneath that you underneath that airport stall for you, my friend. And it's important to recognize that's on its way. Yeah. So it's good to bring light to this, shine as much light to this as possible. I was quite extraordinarily educated this year by learning a lot of this stuff. That's how this happens, the reaction lot of this stuff that that's that's you know how this happens the reaction why this comes about and i and i and i'll be talking about it for years in the future to

make sure that we don't ever hopefully arrive at this point again at least not in america which always stands at a risk um so you're going to be writing how many more in the series to reiterate i think three correct, there's three. I'm writing the second book right now, Revelations. And these books also follow because it's not just a story about the breakdown of America. It's also the story of a young man and trying to decide who he wants to be. And we kind of go through three different phases in our lives. You know, we grow up with what we're taught. We kind of embrace that because that's what our parents

teach us. And then our second phase is we start to question that and we rebel and we want to go out and we find out the world isn't really quite the way we were brought up. And that's true for everyone. And then the third part of our life is we've come to our own conclusions. We've come to our own faith. We've come to our own philosophies. And we settle into that. So these three books kind of follow that journey for Colt as well. Obviously, it's an accelerated pace. Most of us, I can only speak for men, generally don't find ourselves until we're about 35, 36 years old. So this is an accelerated pace for him,

but it also, the books kind of follow that, you know, that human experience. There you go, there you go. And so the new book is, is it going to be New America and then that title, or is it just going to be that title? No, it'll be New America Revelations. There you go, There you go.

There you go. The San Francisco Book Review, New America Awakens is a powerful new release and goes for the jugular and refuses to release the script. The book is shot fired at the heart of the Orwellian surveillance state and has the makings of a dystopian classic. That's a great review. You know, if I could make love with that review, I would. You know, when you're writing, you know, your biggest hope is that somebody reads it and they

don't go, oh, God, this is crap. Or you don't, you know, your big take back is my grandma says it's a good book um so i felt very fortunate to have such good reviews of this story and i was really anxious because of there's there's so many things in it that you know like uh takes on religion and politics and whatnot um so i was, yeah, I, I, I think I want to eventually have that review like framed. That's a great review. It really is. It like nails you. Like you read that review, like I'm buying that damn book, man. I'm reading that thing.

Um, so, uh, you built it out to run like a movie. If it were made into movie, uh, what would be your dream cast? And you can put me in as lead if you want with my uh with my flip-flop socks you know i think we will put you in as like you know the character who's already lost their head and on the guillotine or a villain yeah probably yeah probably that's probably um kathy bates would have to play Catherine. The, and it'll make sense to you when you read it. But, you know, she's just like, literally all I can,

all I can see is Kathy Bates playing Catherine. I would love to see Colt's father played by, I know this is a little bit, uh, uh, controversial, maybe a little bit, but Eric McCormack.

Yeah. Uh, he played will unwilling grace and he also did travelers. Yeah. Um, I think he's absolutely fantastic. Um, for Colt's mom

there's an actress here in Portland that I had the great privilege of working with and she's been on Portlandia before oh it's hilarious but her name is Katie O'Grady

and she you know laura linney kind of comes to mind when i think about her mom but but when i because i know katie she would just be like the perfect person to play this um and then i'm torn but there's a character named marshall uh who uh is very instrumental in protecting Colt. But you got to, you know, I don't want to ruin it for anybody. But I'm really torn between Nick Offerman and Henry Cavill. And I know they're completely different people. And but those would those would be my two as far as the kids go um

i kind of would like to see you know newer talent and not the same people always uh you know being being represented sorry george harrison you're out or frank well you know did i get that wrong george harrison is that the beetle what the hell is yeah yeah you know what i'm talking about harrison ford harrison ford yeah i think he's a little old to play 16 um uh but if i had to pick if there was anybody uh do you know the kid from uh stranger things? Yeah. The geeky kid. Yeah. Him to play Joey. But as far as Jenny and Colt go,

I'd really want to find somebody unique and new to come to that role. There you go. Who would you have directed? Oh, my God. joss whedon i i think i could just like fall dead and be happy with that review and joss whedon directing my movie there you go um or um rob reiner there you go rob would be good robert's he has some amazing things but he might want to turn into connie you know he's he runs that way kind of uh he's done some he's done some pretty good serious work too um but he has a he's a pretty good eye he's a really good eye it's so funny as a child i grew

up watching him as was it me he did yeah like that was i used to watch archie bunker when i was a kid i didn't even i was a kid so i didn't realize how racist it was i knew that you know we were going through a time of hippies and i'd turn on the tv and there'd be you know nixon and vietnam stuff and i'd be like what the fuck is going on here um but uh it was fun to watch at the time not understanding the context of it just well yeah but made all in the family just absolutely brilliant was that it embraced yeah you know it embraced rg bunker and made no apologies for him and um you know i i there's a part of me that thinks that uh we could use a little bit of of all in the family today

yeah on tv well i saw a lot of people who took archie bunker seriously on december 6th so well you know because archie was so ridiculous it kind of made people go oh you know i don't want to be like that you know and you know but everybody knows somebody like yeah um and and now it's like and you and you now we got plenty of people to pick to play that character um you know can we just talk about the guy going through the capitol with the confederate flag for a moment yeah sure um you you do so first off you broke into the into the the federal capitol and you've brought a freaking confederate flag with you got your picture taken everywhere but i find that this was the funniest part

he surrendered to the cops the confederacy lost twice lost twice the surrenders twice but um yeah it was sad that the confederate flag had never gotten that close to the capital and did uh god i don't know how many years after this the official first civil war but never fucking again in fact i you know a lot of people disagree with me on first uh on free speech and shit but germany's done a great job for the last 70 years or something 80 years uh making sure that certain symbols don't get fucking used and it hasn't violated free speech and i'm all for that fucking shit there i don't want to see us there's two flags i don't want to say three flags i don't

want to see technically going back to the nazis ever again um at least not in polite society or legal society i i those just need to be banished into the shitholes of the world you know people uh misunderstand the first amendment on a grand level the first amendment says that we can say what we want about the government without the government having retribution it doesn't say that i have the right to say whatever the hell I want without consequence. And in the book, it, you know, that First Amendment's taken away on a personal and a governmental level. But today, you know, one thing that I notice is, you know, we're being silenced, we're being silenced. And they say it over and over and over again, we're being silenced. We're being silenced. And they say it over and over and over again. We're being silenced. I keep hearing you saying you're being silenced,

so therefore you must not be silenced. That's a good analogy. I like that. It's always interesting. It took me a while in 2015 to figure out the code and the code of our heritage our country and you know all the things you heard and you're like wait your r doesn't mean all of us it just means like you and you're the rights you want to take away from everyone else with your little and it's been a part of it's been a part of history when you start hearing our country you know we're going to take our country back.

You're absolutely right. You're not talking about our as in yours and mine. You mean your. I'm going to take back, you know, my country because there's no room for people like you. And that's where we end opens up for fascism. So, you know, it's important that we have those. Now, it's important to shut the damn door when they bring the Confederate flag with them, you know, because then you're going to find yourself, you know, having to ask your new boss if you can borrow the plane to, you know, go you're going to find yourself you know having to ask your new boss if you can borrow the plane to you know go stay at your at your hotel you know so the funniest shit is all those guys get an extra dieted dc and they can't fly fucking home that's the greatest

stuff ever man oh man uh in fact i was joking on clubhouse last night we were telling a joke we do this parody of where we call ourselves zillionaires we're giving advice on how to become zillionaires it's just and everything is an opposite parody of the get rich quick element and communications that you see in books and different things you know and uh you you do literally nothing to become a zillionaire except put zillionaire on a vision board. It's just complete parody of some of the silliness that you see in these get-rich-quick things. So we were talking about what a good investment would be. And I was like, you know, it just occurred to me there's probably going to be a lot of homes for sale and assets for sale of business for sale people like that texas real estate chick who who uh who was bashing in windows of the capital there's

probably going to be a whole lot of shit on the market you could buy for pennies on the dollar oh pennies on the dollar and um the the hairdresser that framed pelosi she was caught there too so i think there's going to be some hair openings in San Francisco, plenty of business and people are out of work. They need the work. And of course the people that will be out of work from that, we'll be making license plates. So there's that with no parole.

So there you go for the fun. So it's great. We, you know, you, you, you probably didn't see this happening or maybe you did see this happening and you called it,

man. There we are. Well, I, I'm certainly hoping that, you know, um, we've dodged this particular bullet. Uh, I think we were on the precipice of it, but I think, you know, um, that democracy is fragile. Yeah. It's just fragile. We are always but one election away from ruination. Uh,

and that's what the book, you know, it, it, it tipped. Yeah. This is what happens when it tips. We came a few closed doors in the Capitol that were people were hiding under

desks in for ruination. I mean, the I've seen, I sat there in horror because I've seen so many capitals burnt so many buildings burnt in an insurrection and coups you know that russia with the gore or not gorbachev well it was the it was a takeover from gorbachev of what's his face you know tanks in the capital and shit like that and um so i was sitting there watching it going that building starts fucking burning i'm'm going to lose it.

And yeah, so there we are. The thing I'm looking forward to is the only Proud Boys I want to hear about is the LGBTQ Proud Boys raiding the streets. I'm all for that, man. Them reowning that shit is awesome. Well, I've always said that if you want to take over a government first you send in your middle schoolers all your middle schoolers because they'll just tear everything to pieces then you send in your drag queens and everything will look pretty at the end um that's how you take over a government maybe we should have biden uh appoint rupaul as a fashionista uh ambassador or some shit i I don't know.

I think the closest we got was Pete Buttigieg as Secretary of Transportation, which I'm really excited about. I'm a real Pete supporter and a Pete nerd, but I was kind of like, yeah, they took my advice. They put

a gay man in charge of rebuilding. And I think we have a trans appointee and assistant to health i think or something like that yep the assistant the assistant health and and that's that's creating some um howling at the moon um i'm sure we'll fuck them at least we know that they're at least we know their lungs are going to be nice and clear conservative tears but we will hear their voices in free speech. Yeah, Pete Buttigieg, that guy's got a fucking future. I want to see him as president someday. The only disappointing thing about Pete Buttigieg is you'd sit and watch him talk, and I'm like, he's too smart for those dumbass people in this nation.

But I just love the way he debates, man. He's like whipping fucking smart, man. I would. Oh, he's like surgical. Yeah. He's surgical. Yeah. I would not want to ever debate him over anything.

No. Oh, you want Brussels sprouts for dinner? Okay. That's fine. I don't want to debate you about it. You know, one of the things that just amazes me is the groupthink on the right that the progressive left and the Democrats are all the same. They hate the Democrats. They hate Pete Buttigieg with a fiery burning passion.

They hate him. And it's that groupthink that gets us into trouble in the end. I invited his marriage partner to come on for the book that he wrote and we couldn't get through him i follow him on twitter but or on instagram but uh yeah i would hate to get in that you know this household debate did you make the eggs that anyway i'm just joking uh so anyway guys uh anything more we need to know about the book before we go out? Actually, yes. The book is, if you like the e-book versions, like for a Kindle iPad, I've reduced the price for that down to $2.99 so that you can go in, check it out, see if you like it.

And then you can always go back for the hardcover later. Being a new author and people going, who the hell is this? I really want to invite people to get into this story, to find themselves, um, to, to look at where we possibly could go. Um, but you know, uh, it's for two 99 on iBooks and at, uh, amazon.com, um, come and visit me at, um, you know, my website or, um, my blog posts. I am on Twitter, um, at the Tyler, uh, Tyler Davis books. Um, and if you, if you like it, just like with Chris, make sure you leave, you know, make sure you leave a comment and, uh, you know, and, and, and give it a couple of stars and tell a friend. There you go. Let's go. Are you in Goodreads? You should get over there if you are.

I am in Goodreads. There you go. There you go. So check him out on Goodreads. Guys, check out the book. I'm just glad that it's a work of novel theory as opposed to fact. And so you can read what would have happened maybe. I don't know.

Maybe that's a reach. Check him out, guys, at New America Awakenings. It's been fun to have you on, Tyler Davis, and check that out. Thank you so much, Chris. To my audience. Thank you for spending some time with us. This has been a fun discussion on an interesting day to do it, or interesting time.

Oh, you know, historic. Yeah. The old saying, may you it or interesting time. Oh, you know, historic. Yeah. The old saying, may you live in interesting times. Oh man. For five years, I've lived with, uh, I've lived holding onto a couple of logs and one log that I've held onto

through the Rapids was, was Biden saying, uh, you know, democracy in America, we zig and we zag and hopefully we always zig back to the right course so uh it's been a it's been a it's been a weird ass journey or like george bush said in the last inaugural i don't think i don't think we're done i don't think we're done um but

you know the last the last four years have been interesting there you go let's put those weird shit i want to get an audio or just a video of george bush saying that that's some weird shit after that uh thing but uh anyway guys thanks for tuning in we certainly appreciate you guys being here check out the author check his links and all that good stuff uh buy the book get the hardcover i love the i love the hardcover of books i love the the tactile function of them there's and they look so good on your shelf too because people go wow you're well read and smart but uh there you go uh go to youtube.com fortune s chris voss hit the bell notification button go to goodreads.com fortune chris voss facebook.com fortune s the chris voss show check out all the groups over there. LinkedIn forward slash Chris Voss, of course.

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