The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – O C E A N by Anastasia Lindsey

Episode Date: June 1, 2023

O C E A N by Anastasia Lindsey https://amzn.to/3qknmWW The book of waves, never told before secrets, and the restorative nature of love. Just like the depth of the ocean, this book takes you deep into the mind of author Anastasia Lindsey, where you will not only unlock her secrets and wonders of life, but that of your own too, washing away the pain and heartbreak, and energetically transforming into a state of healing. O C E A N allows you to get lost and be an explorer of the wonders that come once you make it safely to shore, where your soul is met with serenity. In O C E A N, we experience the opportunity of connection and to grow with our emotions, to expand past fear as vast as the sea, and become in flow with creation and unconditional love, just like the ocean.

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She's the author of her newest book that just came out, November 23rd, 2022. And the book is entitled Ocean. And she's going to be talking to us about her book of poetry. So we're going to be learning a lot about that and kind of getting some beautiful sort of semblance, sort of esoteric, some thinking, higher-minded thinking, if you will. And Anastasia Lindsay is on the show with us today. She is a timeless soul and author who participates in interdimensional traveling and building beautiful poems to capture the hearts and souls of the world in the most loving and supportive ways possible. Because violence is not the way to go, folks.

Don't wake up and choose violence. I do it every morning. She's a humble writer and was born and raised in the small town of Illinois, where she currently resides, in a beautiful, cozy small house in a patch of land with a lover of life, Dakota. Anastasia has been writing since grade school and has always used empathy, pain, and most importantly, love as her muse to write poems and help heal. Although an author, she is also known for her small business, Summer Solace Holistic Healing and Poetry

where she uses different modalities to help others heal, including I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing this right, Reiki? Reiki. Reiki, okay. Meditation, sound healing, hypnosis, I clearly need some, and has recently started a journey into

shamanism. There you go. Just one of those, think there couldn't be anything more possible. She enjoys painting, drawing, crafting, singing, and even addition for The Voice in 2017. Welcome to the show, Anastasia. How are you? Thank you very much. I'm happy to be here. How are you?

I am excellent, and it's wonderful to have you on the show. Clearly, I need some more holistic brain healing. That's okay. Yeah. So you will have some information on that for us today. So give us a.com. Where do you want people to see you on the interwebs? Absolutely.

So my website is summersoulashealing.com. Summer as in the season. Solas, S-O-L-A-C-E, healing.com. as in the season solace s-o-l-a-c-e healing.com there you go and uh what tell us a little bit about your life journey i mean what got you into a lot of this stuff poetry and uh holistic natures yeah so i've always been a deep soul from ever since I can remember and longing for healing because we all grow up and we need healing in some sort of form. And I knew that we all have the power to heal ourselves, but oftentimes we forget or we were never taught. But the innate power is already within you. And I knew that.

And I was like, I want to help people do that as well. I want people to tap into their own power, heal yourselves. Your body is always speaking to you, giving you messages and signals. And I listened to my body and I want others to do the same. I want others to feel okay with being vulnerable,

tapping into your emotions, your sensitivity. So that's why I'm here on this earth, just to change the world, to make the world a beautiful place to live in. There you go. Now, I mentioned in the bio that you do intercontinental traveling. Interdimensional traveling. Oh, I do intercontinental, but interdimensional? Same thing. Traveling.

What is that, and how does that work? Yeah, so a lot of times what I like to do is travel throughout my mind through meditation, visualization, but also doing things like astral traveling. So where you can travel to other places. In your dreams, they're always delivering messages to you. So I like to interpret dreams just to see what was that about? What's going on in my life right now? Yeah, that I could apply that to.

So I have a very vivid imagination. Well, there you go. You know, the mind is a crazy place to go. i do a lot of interpersonality travel with my mind which means about eight different personalities there's the one that says kill kill kill all the time the judge and probably just can't use anymore uh so that's resolved but uh um you know but yeah you know my i let my uh personalities fight amongst themselves and whoever comes out on top wins. Fortunately, the same one shows up every day for an hour. But that's the medication speaking.

Right. Anyway, so what motivated you to want to write this book? Yeah, so I am a storyteller. I'm a visionary. I've always kept my stories to myself just out of fear of, oh, will people like my story? Will they want to hear my story? Will they even read my story? But I had to get out of my own way and show up in the world because now more than ever,

storytelling is needed. We need to share our truths with other people. We need to bear our souls to other people because that creates connection. And in a world where we felt very disconnected for a while, I want to bring connection back. And I knew that riding ocean was going to be my way to connect with the world, no matter where you were or no matter where I was. Yeah. And it's a great way to inspire other people and, you know, help kind of be a lifter, if you will. Yeah.

So, talk to us about what are some of the subjects of your poems that are in this book? So, Ocean is very healing in so many ways, and it's split up into four different sections. So, the first one is deep waters, and the poems in there are very deep in nature, very sad. I'm speaking about my trauma, past heartbreak, pain. I'm diving deep in those poems. And then we move on to Waiting, W-A-D-I-N-G. And it's just that in-between stage where things are kind of getting okay, but I'm still occurring some of the trauma that I've been through. So it's just that period of in-between where things

are okay, things are getting better, but I'm still reliving a few things. And then it takes us to the shore. When then you think about being on the shore, the beach and on your, the sand on your toes, the water, the waves, hearing the birds. It's all things love and it's peaceful and it's calming. So those poems are very love filled, love for self, love for others, love for the world. And then it brings us to sandcastles and sandcastles is very playful in nature. The poems are very light and easy and it's also a forecast of my other book that i'm writing right now so it gives readers like a little snippet of what's to come there you go well i love the whole ocean uh with this motif a great

word describe it yeah but yeah i love the whole ocean thing so i love oceans and there's something peaceful and meditating about them. Me too. I used to live in California and I would have a hill of beans or problems or whatever was weighing down. And you're like, oh, God, I don't know. I eat Taco Bell. And I'm uncomfortable now. I would go down to the ocean.

And man, you sit down there for about a half an hour, hour. And you're just like you know all my problems don't mount to a hill of beans for the eons of time this ocean has been lapping up against this uh the sand here and uh it's gonna be here eons of time uh after i'm gone and and uh between it and i it's just sitting there probably just going, silly human. Right. If only you knew. If only you knew. None of this is going to matter soon.

Yeah, absolutely. And I would kind of, the grandeur of it and the expanse of it would make me just realize how small my problems were and put them in perspective. And I would usually come home feeling peaceful. Yeah, absolutely. And so, yeah, is great is a great metaphor i guess uh absolutely yeah i i wanted you know life comes in waves things are great and we're doing awesome and everything is great and then sometimes they're not and that's okay because we know that with every high, there comes a low, but nothing lasts forever. That low that you're in does not last forever. And I'm always calm when I go to the ocean, but I know that deep down in the ocean, there are scary things, but that's kind of where deep waters came from.

Like that pain was scary. Yeah. But also being on the shore brings me peace yeah because there's no scary uh things down well there are scary things on the shore these are those other human beings but that's a nice one you know i've seen those people um so uh do you want to give us a reading of maybe a poem or two sure absolutely i'd love that So this is a poem that is in the part, The Shore. I have a deeper understanding of my place in this world now more than ever. I feel deeply called to shine my light in all ways possible.

Being my own alarm clock, rolling out of bed on my own time, sipping crisp water, opening the curtains, inviting the sun into my home, sitting on the floor allowing the rays to fill my cup, mantras, affirmations, and meditation, gratitude for the present moment ready to offer my services to those longing for healing reading poetry sipping black tea painting murals and eating fresh fruit cultivating acres of garden and making spicy salsa from homegrown tomatoes. Healing, growing, and learning. Loving who I am now. Forgiving who I once was.

And building the woman I will be. I am happy to be here. Wow, that's refreshingly beautiful. Thank you. And I love the imagery that it plays. So it will give us a little bit of audience. Thank beautiful. Thank you. And I love the imagery that it plays. So it will give us a little bit of audience. Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah, usually my poems are just like I said before, if it's the other person, it's just kill, kill, kill. That's okay. To each their own. It's not a very beautiful poem, though. I can't judge. There you go. And so a lot of the stuff you said there just brought a light and the scenery to my mind and the imagery that painted the picture there.

And do you find that a lot of people, this helps a lot of people to sit and meditate and either write poems or listen to poems? Absolutely. Poetry heals. It heals me. Every time I write a poem, I'm healing a part of myself. Healing is the journey. It's not a destination. So we're going to constantly be healing from things that have happened to us or will happen to us.

But the main thing is to be present within your own body, to process your emotions, to not let them take over you. You could just have to be an observer of your thoughts. So meditation is similar. Writing poetry is similar. You're present with yourself or what's happening around you, and you're not letting the outside world take over you or invade your space. And so poetry really helps me to ground myself and to listen to what my body is saying, to listen to my thoughts and my feelings and emotions. And it gives people the freedom to do the same. There you go. I like that. You know, I recently started doing something and I just kind of made it up. But, you know, I've been hearing about, you know, I recently started doing something and I just kind of made it up.

But, you know, I've been hearing about, you know, people sitting out in the sun in the morning when you have your coffee to start your circadian rhythms and also get vitamin D. So you go out there for, you have your coffee in the morning, 10 minutes. And I also had a thing where I love my dogs. I've got two Huskies. And I just always feel guilty, like I never spend enough time with them. Yes. And, you know, they have like, you know, $500 budgets for dog treats and toys and stuff. I'm one of those people that, you know, I eat very healthy as much as I can.

And so, you know, a lot of my stuff is vegetables and salads and stuff and so usually when i go through the conveyor belt there at the store it's like the most expensive items are usually dog treats and stuff people like are you eating this like what's going on and uh uh and so i never seem to spend enough time with them and they love it when i go outdoors because they're huskies. They want to run around the yard. Yes, they do. And then I study stoicism.

I keep off the side of my computer here, actually on the speaker, books of stoicism, Seneca, Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, and I think Epictetus. And so I'm trying to always surround myself with this, but you know, you get lost in the thing. You wake up in the morning and, you know, I got emails, people going,

Hey, I need this. And I need that. I need this, you know, and I wake up, the dogs got their thing going on and I'm just trying to get a coffee and not murder anybody with the kill,

kill, kill, kill, kill, you know, because until you have that coffee, you know, anything can go wrong.

So I, I kinda, it kind of all fell together for me and i started about four days ago doing what i call my morning centering okay and uh it's kind of been interesting for me um so i go out and i sit in the sun for 15 minutes i have my coffee i'm spending 15 minutes with the dogs. So they're running around me. They're having a great time. Yeah. I just pick random selections out of Seneca, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, anything from stoicism because I'm really into that. But, you know, you can do this with your poems and things like that. And I just kind of go out there. I have my coffee, absorb my vitamin d or create it uh spend time with

my dogs and then uh you know sometimes I'll read uh the sources but sometimes I just kind of ponder things yeah absolutely and I'm out you know I'm out there in the beautiful leaves and stuff and then one of the other problems they have as as soon as I fire up my computer, it's all sorts of, you know, this, that, and the other. We need this. Get us this link. Get us, you know, whatever. And you just feel like you're just kind of like ripped

and pulled. So I started doing a thing where I play solo piano music when I first fire up my computer. And I do that for about 10 or 15 minutes as we're starting to get everything going and all the computers are operating. And it's really given me the center that I really feel like a frame where I am in control of my day and I've,

and I've set the tone for my day and I've kind of put my soul and my peace and everything at ease. And then everything has to come to me now. Absolutely. I'm not being pulled in 50 different directions. I got my arm being ripped off here. Yeah. It's kind of long, but yeah, it's kind of,

it's kind of a weird meditative process maybe I'm using. Absolutely. There's so many forms of meditation. You know, some people go and they quiet their mind and they quiet their thoughts. Other people, it's just going outside and experiencing how the sun feels on you or admiring that tree across the way. Because all meditation is, is being present and aware of what's going on right in this moment. It's not thinking about the email that you should have sent or the phone call that you should have made yesterday.

It's just being right here right now. And so what you do is a form of meditation. There's so many ways to meditate. There you go. And being present. I mean, I just made a note here that I need to add that to my list. And I have like this little map out of what I'm doing. And yeah, it just really helps me be present. And it kind of grounds me. Absolutely. So, uh, good stuff there. That's really, yeah. Thank you for sharing that.

I just kind of made, I just kind of made it up like four days ago. I was like, you know, I'm going to go start sitting out with the coffee and get the vitamin D thing because I have trouble sleeping. And, and so I'm like, it'll get my circadian rhythm going and, uh, you know, that way, and I've actually been tired at night. I've actually been feeling a lot better. That's really good. So it's pretty good. What are some other ways you find you're helping people?

We mentioned a few of the, in your bio, some of the different variations that you use. So there's the one word I couldn't do. Reiki. Reiki. Tell us about Reiki and give us some more detail on that. So Reiki is energy healing. It's the universal life force energy. Everything around us is energy.

I'm just the channel. I'm the conduit. I take that energy, which is very healing in nature. So I usually place my hands on the client. I'll go around their body. I'll place my hands on the client. I'll go around their body. I'll place my hands on them and I will channel that healing energy. So it will just come through me onto the client and it heals a wide range of things from anxiety, depression, to physical pain, spiritual, mental, emotional. I have a lot of people, a lot of my clients that come for Reiki,

it's just because they long for peace. And when they receive that healing Reiki energy, they're very calm, they're very centered. If you think about your desired state of being, most people will say, I just want to be calm and happy. That's what Reiki does. It makes you calm and happy. And it allows you to be at one with yourself where you feel peaceful there's no stress there's no anxiety there's no worry you're just sitting there and you're relaxing and you're it feels like warmth like if you're being covered with a warm blanket so that's what Reiki is I think there's some science behind it too. We had a neurologist on the other week and we talked, he talked about how human touch is so important to firing off, you know,

like dopamine and serotonin channels in our brain. And, you know, even shaking hands or giving someone a hug or, you know, just holding hands or, you know, it's kind of patting someone on the back. Those fire off different neurological neurons in our brain that, you know, kind of help us. And we kind of need that, especially nowadays where no one really hugs each other.

You know, during COVID, no one could touch each other. You know, I'll just say six feet away from each other. Yeah. You know, mine was mostly restraining orders, but that's another story. You know, that's another story. That's from the kill, kill, kill volume. But, you know, I'm sure I'll be found innocent of whatever it is. I'm just kidding.

You know. It's a great joke to pull from the callback. But, you know, and so human touch, even like the neurologist even talked about how you know this these 2d screens aren't good for us and we're not used to this we're used to having three-dimensional interactions where we sit across from somebody and have a meal and talk and that that neurologically and probably energy wise helps us as well absolutely i can definitely attest to that. And it's one of those things too, where even if someone doesn't agree that it's a human need, I think that deep down inside, if we could rewrite their story, that they would ultimately see that human touch is basically another human

need in some shape or form. I wholeheartedly agree that if i never received touch from family or friends anymore it would be a pretty lonely life for me that's true i have some family friends that i could avoid getting touched from because yeah boundaries are important boundaries are important when you have an ultra religious family you you have to have some boundaries. So there you go. Yeah. That's okay. Especially you're an atheist and they do whatever they're doing. Worshiping the cult son or whatever,

you know, have fun with that people. Keep away from me. I don't want to get, I don't want to get pulled in. Oh, the aliens come, I'll work it out with them.

Yeah. There you go. Uh, sound healing. Tell us about what sound healing is. I think I might, is that where you do the ring things? Yeah. So there you go. Sound healing. Tell us about what sound healing is. I think I might. Is that where you do the ring things? Yeah.

The crystal singing bowls. I used to do that when I used to drink wine. I do the crystal thing, but that's kind of not quite as. Yeah. I'll let you keep that. Yeah. I'll let you. Yeah.

So they're crystal sound singing bowls. There's a lot of instruments out there. Like there's not just crystal singing bowls, but there's chimes. There's all kinds of things. But the most important thing to know is that our bodies respond to energy, to vibration and to sound. If you think about your favorite song,

like it's Friday night, maybe you're about to go out, you turn on your favorite song. What does it do for you?'re about to go out you turn on your favorite song what does it do for you it gets you excited it gets you pumped up and ready to go and likewise for a sad song if you listen to a song and someone's singing about losing their partner you're gonna probably feel sad you're not gonna want to go party at the bar maybe that's what you do to cope from that sad song. But ultimately, you respond to the sounds that you hear. And that's what sound healing is. So they all have their own frequency, their own vibration, and it's attuned to our body. And I like to think about our bodies like a car. So my car right now gets me to A, B, and C.

But have I changed my oil? I could probably use an oil change. Do I need to get my fluids checked? Yeah, probably. But your car will still drive you to A, B, and C, even if it's running low on fuel, just not at its best. And that's how our bodies operate. You know, we still wake up in the morning.

We still go to work. But maybe there's a better way to get up for work. Maybe you could have more energy, you would be balanced, you would feel in alignment with yourself. So, our bodies act the same way. We need a tune-up to operate at our best. And that's what the sound bowls do they get your energy back into balance back into alignment um they get you tuned up and so that you can operate and show up in the world as your best there you go my my uh mechanic says my body's going for a full overhaul that needs to go to that crusher thing i could probably yeah but i've seen that i've seen that on uh tiktok i think i've seen yeah he's got like all the bowls and he's making all the balls stuff and there's there's definitely it's probably easy to meditate with that sort of thing playing isn't it absolutely um a lot of my clients prefer sound

bowls over regular meditation because they are able to easily go but they the bowls alter your brain waves they take you from that anxious state of mind to that deep state of rest and so i have at least one person that falls asleep in my classes and i also have i also have clients that book a session just to fall asleep because within five minutes of playing the bowls they're snoring when i had my three three major companies i was doing uh at the same time i had to get a massage every week like a good i think it was a two-hour massage i would get wow and uh yeah if i didn't my employees would be like you didn't get your massage this weekend did you because you're being a real bear and i'm like no i didn't um and uh and i fall asleep there's something about rubbing my face if if when the when the masseuse gets to my face i will always

fall asleep maybe yeah you know there's a lot of stress here up in this bridge area you know and brain pressure and and uh the kill kill, kill pressure voice. Exactly. That goes away. That goes away. Well, I fall asleep. So, yeah, it kind of has to. Hopefully, I don't wake up with it. You know, there's multiple personalities.

You never know which one you're going to wake up with. We've all been there. But, no, I would fall asleep. And part of it, you know, part of it, I think, was from the touch. Yeah. But, you know, just relaxing and being at peace. And, you know, they usually have that great Enya music going on in there. And so you just, it's just like an atmosphere of peace.

I don't know why they never play like heavy metal, heavy metal, head banging music in there, but. I've always wondered the same, but I think that's why I think we can, we can say that. I get some peace love from listening to Metallica, but you know, myica, but my psychiatrist says it's probably not good for me. Do you want to give us another reading from one of the poems in your book? Sure, absolutely. A sample, if you will, tease out.

Okay. So this one's from The Shore as well. I'm feeling very lovey, so I'm going to read lots of my love poems. Okay. Our love, strong enough to create tsunamis that wash away disease, strong enough to create mountains that put an end to violence, strong enough to create earthquakes that put an end to famine, strong enough to create hurricanes that rid poverty forever, strong enough to erupt a volcano that puts an end to war.

Wow. That's beautiful. That's powerful love right there. Very powerful love. Yeah. If you can end war, if we all just get everybody to love each other, that would definitely end a war and the world would be so much better place.

I think John Lennon spoke about that. I think it's, yeah. It's such a powerful thought to have. If we can have more love in the world, no more wars. I'm kind of tired of this Ukraine-Russia thing. So we can get rid of that. You're

going to start your journey into shamanism. Tell us about that. You're not going to be that January 6th guy with the horns and your thing storming the Capitol, right? Maybe, no. It's a shamanism thing. Oh, maybe. Just register to vote, people. Never say never.

There you go. So what is shamanism? How do you start your journey in shamanism and what do you hope to achieve? So the topic is very broad, but to keep it very simple, it is your connection to the earth, connection to your soul, connection to others. And you use all kinds of different healing modalities to heal yourself and others. It's knowing that you are part of something bigger in this world, that we are all connected. And it's really dropping your ego and knowing that if you operate from a place of love and respect and care, that the world has so many open possibilities for you. So there's lots of different ritualistic things that you can do with shamanism. I don't

know if maybe you've heard of shaman drumming. It's a drum. Yeah. So there's a drum and then you do it so many beats per second. And that actually gets you into a different state of mind. It alters your brainwaves as well. And they call it shaman journey, where it's a different form of meditation. But it allows people to take a journey into themselves out into the world in a very deep meditative way. Every time I do shaman drumming, I get it done. And I also do it to others. They do leave that session feeling very deeply grounded with themselves. They have a deeper idea of who they are in this world at a soul level, at a higher self level. So to sum it up, it's just the connection to know that everything has a spirit. We have a spirit.

We are souls living in this human 3D world, but there's so much more to ourselves and the world. Wow. I'm looking at some of these shaman drums online. They're amazing. Yeah. They are. Probably seen people play these. Absolutely.

It's very deep and powerful. Yeah. And probably helps people connect better with their emotions. I mean, there's probably a lot of people that need to maybe connect better with themselves, do some internal work. Yes, I agree. It seems like we live in a society now where everybody does external work, or they just think that watching the Kardashians will fix everything or something. Right. Which it'll make it worse.

I mean, you know, watching the Kardashians might take them to a disassociated level where they don't want to think about their own problems you know but um for me i want to deep i want to do the deep healing work i want to tap into myself and see why is this bothering me why is this causing me failings of anxiety and stress i like to find out, the why to who I am and why I react to certain things. I like that stuff. You know, disassociation, you give me another new word. I learn all sorts of stuff. That's why we do the show. It's just so I can learn some stuff because I flunked second grade. That's okay. Well, okay. All all right i accept that yeah that's okay you're here you're doing great things so yeah i just can't spell anything or whatever i don't know that's okay i've understood everything

i've understood everything you've said so far so spelling is not needed well you're the only one so far um it's like it's like my my mom will say you know chris i love you and i'll be like well you're the only one uh but no disassociation you know it seems like what is it that's a form of escapism right where we're you know we're on tiktok or on instagram or you know social media or watching the news and you know i it's it's it's okay to watch the news and it's's okay to watch the news, and it's probably okay to watch the Kardashians, at least for, I don't know, long enough to turn it off. Oh! Yeah. But, you know, that's right.

We're just associating, and we're not dealing with maybe issues that we have. Do you find that this, a lot of people that have childhood trauma, because we've talked a lot on the show and had a lot of authors on, a lot of psychiatrists on it. You know, it's interesting to me how childhood trauma, you can see the map of the fallout through their life and how it shapes them and it can impact their journey, both good and bad. Do you find a lot of people with some of the techniques that you use, it really helps them with their trauma that they've experienced? Absolutely. Especially with hypnosis, a lot of people would like to find out if something happened to them when they were little. Because if you think about your subconscious mind, it holds on to every single memory, even from birth. So it remembers everything, but our conscious mind doesn't. It allows us to not tap into that. So a lot of people will get hypnosis

to see if an event really did happen to them as when they were a child. And a lot of people have walked away with, wow, that did happen to me. But they forgot because they disassociated themselves. They left their body in that moment so that they didn't feel the pain of what was happening to them. And so that causes them to forget that it even happened. And then with hypnosis, it's called age regression, where we take them back to that certain point in that time where it happened. And if they're ready, a lot of clients have come to me and they think that they're ready, but then they find that they're not ready that this is too scary to address right now maybe later and some people do come to me they're like i'm ready to find out and they do they leave with that peace of mind that that happened to me and now i can start to heal from that yeah identifying the the issue is a big

journey to fixing the problem. Yeah. Now that they know it and they're aware of it, they can start to rewrite their story. That doesn't have to be what they carry for the rest of their lives. There you go. It doesn't have to be your story. Once you, you know, I saw a thing with Oprah once and a guy had been assaulted by a police officer growing up as a child and normally a police officer is someone that you know usually is someone you trust um but uh

you know he said the biggest problem for him was he held in the poison the he held in uh affirming it for so long he kept it as a secret and he said something was really powerful he said something about how the thing that the the thing you keep inside you poisons you or something or letting the poison out is part of the healing and so helping people identify stuff or maybe giving them pathways to resolve it and and and go through a reconciliation of feeling um to where they can like you say rewrite their story a better way. Absolutely. And I like to let people know that they have the power to do that.

I am just here to be your guide, to help you along the way. But they have the power within them. Our bodies are always talking to us too. For me, if I have a headache, it's normally because I'm taking on way too much information that I have the capacity to do at that moment. Whether I'm tired or I had a lot going on that day, or if my shoulders, if I'm carrying some pain in my shoulders, it's probably because I'm carrying too much. Whether that's physically, emotionally, mentally, there's a load that I'm carrying that i need to either set down for a second or ask for help and so what a lot of things that i do is helping people listen to the body the messages that come to them and helping them realize that they have the power to heal themselves

that is awesome you know i my body usually talks to me too and it's like feed me taco bell yeah feed me taco bell usually i Yeah, feed me Taco Bell. Usually I'm doing intermittent fasting in the mornings up until a certain point in the day. We try and keep to a 16-8. No, sorry, I refer to my multiple personality. We try to keep to a 16-8. And yeah, so somewhere in the day it's, feed me Taco Bell. Yeah, Taco Bell.

And then later, my body talks to me in other ways uh at the other side um get it out of me or is it the kill kill kill that is the kill kill the two are can in hand taco bell regret and uh kill kill kill and use i think it's using my toilets it's never mind anyway uh so you know, so what get you so good at poems? How long have you been writing poems? Have you written a lot of poems? What's the future for maybe another book? Yeah, I've always wrote poetry since grade school.

I think it was maybe third or fourth grade. It was English class, and one of our assignments was to write a poem. I didn't think that I had it in me. I'd never really dabbled in poetry up until that point. But the reaction that my teacher had after she read my poetry had a great effect on me. That's, I mean, we're growing up as children. That's when you are, it's make or break. Someone could tell you something and that will stick with you for the rest of your life. So seeing her reaction to

my poem really sparked something in me. So I'm like, that felt good. I want to write more. And so I just started tapping into all kinds of things, what I wanted to write about, butterflies, oceans, the world, myself, school. And it wasn't until maybe eighth grade, high school, I started tapping into the power of poetry when I started to actually experience traumatic events and things that made me upset. And because I was so sensitive, I didn't know how to process all of those emotions. So I turned to writing. I'm like, well, maybe poetry will help me release what I'm thinking or feeling. And it did. So really, poetry was movement for me. And I haven't stopped. Poetry is very healing. It's very moving. It's a

whole language in itself. You know, reading and writing poetry is like learning another language. And that's very intriguing to me. And I definitely plan on writing more books. Obviously, I have Ocean that's out, but I am working on my next poetry book. And I plan on writing more. Absolutely. Yeah. You should write one with Metallica. And then it's a heavy metal headbanging meditation. It'll be completely opposite.

Yeah. No one's done that before i mean all those all those meditation places yoga places you go to you know they're all like peaceful and music they should have one where it's like head being can be peaceful too or something so i'll send you the invite and you'll come right i definitely will okay i'm looking for them on tour right now but no there's a place for it like the other day i put on some metallica and i was like no no no i'm in the mood for this i need something a little more peaceful and calming yeah but i you know i like this morning centering i'm doing and i'm highly recommended to people i think

now i'm only four days in i don't know i could bring out the kill kill kill voice somewhere i don't know we'll see how it goes but you know the whole centering thing, especially when I sit down at my desk and I kind of, I was listening to, I think, an audio book, The Confident Mind. We had him on the show. And he talks about how athletes will kind of mentally walk through their activity or whatever they're achieving, you know, like Olympiads and stuff. And so they do a lot of mental preparation and walk through stuff. So being able to sit down at your computer and just kind of play some piano music and kind of, you know, I feel like the world comes at me now and I, and I can, and I have a frame now where I'm like, bring it on.

And, uh, you know, before it just kind of seemed like I just get ripped apart. Like, Oh, we're going to drag you over here. We're going to drag you over here. We're going to drag you over there. And so having a calming stay present frame is really important. Absolutely. And I think what you made a good point is that ultimately you are in control of what happens to you, through you, around you. If you do not wish to be pulled in that direction, you won't let anyone do that. But

oftentimes we're either people pleasers, we're yes people, we don't want to upset anybody, so we do the things that we don't feel like doing. But when you are so centered and grounded with your truth and with who you are, I'm not going to let you pull me that way. I need a minute or I will respond to that email when I get to it. You don't have to feel rushed to respond, to send that link, to upload that episode. You just do it when you feel like you are at a good place to do it. I love that. I love that. Cause I, you know, I opened up the email, there's 50 million people that need answers and you know,

what's going on and you're trying to answer all the emails. You know, like, are you serious, dude? You just wrote me an email. Like, are you, did you not read the prior email? Right. Hey, we told you, what do I, can you go read the, you know, there's, I love emails because there's like a proof of a thing. Like somebody wrote me the other day and then they, and they didn't answer that email. And then they wrote me again. They're like, Hey, I need this answer. Hey. And I'm like, can you go like back to the email i sent you that you didn't read oh yeah i love it you love a good paper trail yeah just you spend your morning sometimes just looking at people on email going i'm gonna show you don't do that kill kill kill

yeah i know i see where it comes from now. Yeah, it answers emails. So sitting down and getting that whole presence and I feel like I'm in the cockpit of my life and I'm in control. It's like, okay, I have frame now. Let's see what's on the emails. You just have a different response, less anxiety too.

I used to have an email when anxiety went up, my email going email going oh man my phone's been blowing up somebody's you know somebody got something some fire i need to put out so there yeah um this is quite the journey we've been on and definitely meditating and healing to people uh anything more you want to tease out about what your future efforts are up to yeah so um definitely stay tuned for more books on poetry and they're all going to be different in their own way. Very healing still, because no matter what I do and no matter how I show up in the world, it's going to give people hope and inspiration and show them that they are

a very liberated person in control. So definitely more poetry is in the future more healing i just want to show people that you can show up and be yourself show up be authentic be vulnerable if i could travel and teach people the power of their own inner self and their own inner determination i would love that but for now i'll do it behind my screen or in my communities, you know, however I can. But definitely just know that you are important. Know that you are needed in this world. And everyone has their own special, unique gift. And if you haven't found yours yet, go out there and have fun.

And I promise you, you will find it. If you let go of that expectation of I'm not special, I'll never find anything. There's nothing there for me. There is something for everybody. I can promise you that. There you go. There you go. Well, that's a beautiful message.

It's been wonderful to have you on today, Anastasia. Thank you so much. Give us your.com so people can find you on the interwebs. Yes, summersoulishealing.com. That's summer, like the season solace s-o-l-a-c-e healing.com there you go uh thank you very much for coming on we really appreciate it thank you i really appreciate it there you go thanks for tuning in we appreciate as well and hopefully you've uh checked out some better ways to process your mind and stuff like that.

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