The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Orest Komarnyckyj Official Old Guy

Episode Date: July 20, 2019

Orest Komarnyckyj Official Old Guy Myjunkdoesnotwork.com...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi folks, Chris Voss here from thechrisvossshow.com, thechrisvossshow.com. Hey, we're coming to you here live on the Chris Voss Show podcast. Thanks for tuning in. We certainly appreciate it. Be sure to give us a like, subscribe to us on YouTube, hit that bell notification button so you get all the notifications of all the cool stuff that is going on in the Chris Voss Show podcast world. Go to theCVPN, that's thechrisvosspodcastnetwork.com.
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Starting point is 00:00:40 those reviews up. We certainly love our audience and you guys are the best audience in the world. That's what we tell every audience, actually. We have a most exciting, very interesting guest today. I got to tell you, I've been watching some of his videos, and this guy is funny, spunky, and definitely entertaining. And I don't say that a lot on videos because a lot of videos are really bad, but he is definitely interesting. His name is orist he's the um
Starting point is 00:01:05 orist kamarsky i believe i did i do that right there we go there we go and he is a 66 year old blogger internet marketer stand-up comedian so this is going to be fun and health care professional lives in las vegas nevada with his wife. They are two empty nesters with two college age children. When you meet Oris, you'll be surprised. The cover does not match the content. I guess we're going to find out and you'll find him funny, edgy and very casual. Most of the time his wife and kids often have to tell him to grow up.
Starting point is 00:01:40 And if you piss him off, you may find he turns into a dick really fast. He really enjoys spending time with his wife and drinks fine liquor and smoking cigars while watching UFC football and basketball are his favorite pastime. Sounds like he knows how to have a good time. He falls asleep during baseball
Starting point is 00:02:00 and soccer. Aww. Occasionally, he'll read a book. If there's lots of pictures in it, probably magazines too. I'm thinking, welcome to the show. How are you doing? Orist? I'm doing great,
Starting point is 00:02:09 Chris. Thank you. I love it. I'm loving it. Awesome sauce. So, uh, before you get going down the road here,
Starting point is 00:02:16 uh, give us your plug so people can start looking you up, checking you out on the interwebs. All right. Well, in case you don't know it, I think you'll know what my product is almost right away when I tell you the plug here. It's myjunkdoesnotwork.com. Myjunkdoesnotwork.com.
Starting point is 00:02:35 So I don't think it's going to be a brain surgeon or a nuclear physicist to figure out what my site is all about. So what I'm doing is helping older guys, and actually a lot of women are concerned about this, find out what their options are to treat erectile dysfunction or, in many cases, actually dissatisfaction. Maybe you can't do some of the things that you were able to do a few years ago, and you're just kind of like going, what's going on? And so I basically have information where I've interviewed some doctors some expert
Starting point is 00:03:09 doctors which are like we'll talk about that but they're actually hard to find who are experts in this area about new therapies that are out there that weren't available until just recently and most guys are too embarrassed to go and find out about this they They won't talk to anyone. And so you can basically get this information. You can go into a closet in your house, turn on your computer or your phone and get this information privately without embarrassment. Nice.
Starting point is 00:03:35 So who's called does not work.com. My junk does not work.com. No, I'm just plugging the website. Don't wait. Don't hesitate to procrastinate. Skip this interview. Go to that site right now.
Starting point is 00:03:46 No, I'm teasing. But wait, there's more. So you do a lot of videos on your website. You've got a website that you talk about a lot of the stuff. You're on Instagram. You're pretty much everywhere doing your vlogging and stuff. And your videos are really entertaining. You guys want to go subscribe to his YouTube channel and stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:04 They're a lot of fun, uh, and, very funny too. Uh, very witty. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:04:10 but yeah. So, um, what prompted you on this journey? What's the story behind, uh, why this is important to you and what, what made this,
Starting point is 00:04:17 uh, kind of something that, uh, you were interested in? Well, this, uh, so,
Starting point is 00:04:22 so, uh, so sit down. This is a long answer. Uh, you won't have to ask another question. I'm sitting down. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this, so sit down, this is a long answer. You won't have to ask another question. I'm sitting down. No, no, no. I won't be that long.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So when I was 45, my wife had our first child. And at that point in my life, I was 240 pounds. I was the shape of a watermelon and about as mobile as a watermelon. And I had to make a decision about whether I was going to be a grandfather or a father to my kids. And my
Starting point is 00:04:56 waist and my age at 45 were the same and my waist was outpacing my age. I think you're describing me. Fortunately, you don't have any mirrors in the room, Chris. Yeah, I'm anti-mirror. I'm on the anti-mirror crusade. You can go to anti-mirror for chrisvoss.com. That's right. So I was at that point and I made a very, very strategic decision. And at that point, I entered into what's called or used to be called, they're trying to change the name, but basically the anti-aging space. And I found a lot of things that men can do to increase their lifestyle,
Starting point is 00:05:41 the quality of their life through various biohacks things like that and I got into the space and I've been in for from that time on since 45 and over time a lot of this you know what times we start journeys like this out of self-interest and I'm doing this journey I was self-interest I'm sharing the knowledge that I've learned about how to improve the quality of your life and consequently those that you love, which happens to be my tagline. So it's really out of self-interest. And I see so many men kind of go over time where they really degenerate significantly. Now, I'm going to degenerate. There's no doubt about that. And even though I've done all these things, I'm sure that at age 55, I was better at age 55 than I am at 66 today, in some respects. But some of the things I really do believe that
Starting point is 00:06:37 I've actually managed to slow the process or really mediate it with some of the several things i've done in the past and so this is this is my i share my journey uh doctors uh therapies uh also but it's not just that also go devices and virtues uh you know i i did not realize i was cutting the cigar wrong until about a few years ago uh which is very, it's sacrilegious. Yeah, you got to get that right. You got to get the scotch and the cigar just right. Yeah, and I also did a video about how to properly light a cigar
Starting point is 00:07:19 because there is actually a whole technique about how to do that properly. And the old guy also, it's not just about guys. I go places that people are uncomfortable talking about that should be talked about. Yeah, I saw you interviewed a young lady about vaginal atrophy and vaginal rejuvenation. Rejuvenation, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:48 She would love the fact that you would call it that. She's actually, I'm going to be a guest on her podcast here in a few weeks. And we spend a lot of time talking about that because let's say, okay, most guys don't know that as women age that urinary incontinence is a huge issue. don't know that, uh, as women age, that,
Starting point is 00:08:06 uh, urinary incontinence is a huge issue. Yeah. It's a monster issue. And there are treatments that are out there that are actually fairly, uh, they're available that again, that weren't available until just recently to deal with that. I think in my twenties,
Starting point is 00:08:20 I actually caused a lot of vaginal atrophy. So, and head wounds. It was, uh, I think in my twenties, I actually caused a lot of vaginal atrophy. So, and head wounds. Atrophy. This use dysfunction. You got to go for it. It's right there. You can't,
Starting point is 00:08:41 you know, you've done standup. You gotta, you gotta, it's right there. You can't, you can't let that go. Yeah. You got the low flute. The low fruit is the dick jokes.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah. Well, we're getting to that. You know, you gotta start, you gotta start with the vagina and then you get there. So, um, so you got this website. Um, I know, I know, you know, my father went on a journey where, as he got older, he had to go have the prostate thing. I know a lot of people. I've hit one of my 52 now. Everyone's starting to bug me, like, have you gone and done the prostate thing? And I'm like, I don't know. And then my dad had to have prostate surgery where I think they ram a hot rod up your pp and fry the hell out of everything or something like that um prostate cancer uh yeah he he really put
Starting point is 00:09:33 it off getting it done for like 10 years and it got bad and uh so they had uh i don't know what they did it was like that scene out of of Braveheart or something where at the end where Mel Gibson's laying on the thing and they're doing all sorts of things to his lower extremities. I don't know. I don't know. That's just kind of how I imagine it might be. It's a laser in a James Bond movie. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:01 It's just a thread in the needle there, if you will. Wow, I just came up with that reference. That's making me cringe. So you help old guys kind of talk about their issues. I know one problem with men is men don't talk about their problems. We just either just go kill things or break things or build engines or something. We do have a high suicide rate because we don't talk about our issues and, uh, you know, women outlive us. So they're, you know, they're like, Hey, what's going on in the bedroom. You certainly don't want them training you in for a pool boy.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Um, so, you know, that's important to, you know, still be able to hit the ball out of the park, if you will, I suppose. So, yeah, that's the one thing. And I know as you get older, I mean, your sex life tends to die, and, you know, sometimes maintaining that stiff upper wind lip, whatever you want to call it,
Starting point is 00:10:58 gets to be a little bit challenging. Come on now, you're jumping around the words. It's a stiff deck. It's a stiff. Okay, well, I'll let you go there. You're the guest on the show. I'll let you.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Come on. I just think the references are funny. The stiff wind, whatever. I mean, when you're like 12 years old, the wind blows and you can like pound and nails with that thing. You're just like years old, the wind blows and, and you can like pound and nails of that thing. You're just like, you can just go over and hammer and shit. And you're like, I use mine as a screwdriver most of the time, both flathead and Phillips, sometimes hex
Starting point is 00:11:35 too, if you hit it hard, but, but when you get older, the blood flow isn't flowing, you know? I mean, I'm lucky if I got blood going to my brain right now as it is. And your blood veins are probably not as whatever. I mean, Viagra certainly comes into play for people. And so a lot of your information you're collecting and you're sharing with your audience and stuff, what is it tuned into? What's the specifics on it when it comes to treating and and and issues what men are having okay so before i answer that my sue the ip lawyer i hire she wants me to read this all the time i start talking about this stuff she goes this is information only consult with the appropriate professional before starting any program do not be stupid she's not right that i
Starting point is 00:12:23 worked at you're responsible you're responsible for your own the old guy is a capitalist and non-social weasel he will be promoting stuff here and will be compensated if he's lucky you can rest assured the old guy only promotes stuff he uses you will have different results because we're all different there you go there we go so now i got that that out of there um so uh this whole thing of erectile dysfunction is kind of uh uh is actually related to the whole uh uh it's not just for older guys now it's actually occurring in younger and younger men and it has to do with some things that what I want to call the assault on males. And there's a whole thing you can discuss and debate about societal, but there's also an environmental assault that's
Starting point is 00:13:15 occurring. And so erectile dysfunction is something that affects many men. And now it's actually what urologists will tell you is that younger and younger men are showing up in their clinics wow and uh there's uh the fact is is that this situation uh first of all it what it represents is a is a loss of physical emotional intimacy in a relationship if you're in a committed relationship i mean if you uh what's what's that uh tinder yeah tinder what's one that ashley madison yeah if you're an ashley relationship if you're in a committed relationship i mean if you uh what's what's that tinder yeah tinder what's one that ashley madison yeah if you're on ashley madison you're not in a committed relationship i don't know about 50 80 percent of the guys i think on there were married
Starting point is 00:13:54 but i got a few married buddies that i was like why what is the point? Yeah. So what it is, it represents a loss of physical and emotional intimacy. It's a loss of your ability to actually have pleasure both for yourself and your partner. It robs you. You're sitting there and you're wondering the whole time whether one,
Starting point is 00:14:24 whether you're going to be able to get it in, whether you're going to be able whole time whether one, whether you're going to be able to get it in, whether you're going to be able to keep it in, whether you're going to be able to come. This has implications to not just to you because it actually goes on because it starts to affect your brain, your psyche as a man. That's a real important part of this whole process.
Starting point is 00:14:40 The whole thing, yeah, because sex is a big part of us being a man. It starts to affect your psyche. And a lot of guys will not talk about it. They're not going to talk about it to their physician. A lot of times they won't. A lot of times they won't talk about it to the person they're in a relationship with, their wife or their girlfriend or whoever.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And they certainly don't talk about it to other guys. I mean, guys don't stand around and go, hey, how's your junk? Well, my junk's not working so well. How about yours? Well, yeah, I had a little problem with my junk. And, you know, it just kind of didn't work. And we just kind of rolled over and kind of there was an awkward moment of silence when nothing was happening. I think those conversations down at those bars is what the LGBT community calls the Fruit Loop in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I think those conversations do go on. But yeah, you're right. Most guys don't. Actually, they don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. I think it's more show and tell.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I think there's a lot more bravado there. But no, because I have some good friends, and we've talked about this too. It's not just a heterosexual problem. It's pervasive in all in the homosexual community too and so so guys guys will not talk about this and then uh what happens is that they get distant they they the distance starts off just from a physical emotional standpoint and then they start becoming less and less communicative and that usually what happens is that distance grows apart and erectile dysfunction is actually a factor
Starting point is 00:16:09 in 20 percent of divorces wow yeah it's a huge it's a huge mistake and i suspect that if you if you narrow the range down on divorces the men in their 40s and up that it will be a higher percentage but when you're you know when you're getting if you're getting divorced at 22, it's usually because you got married when you were stupid and you both made a mistake. Most guys are like 35. I mean, we were already at 22. I mean, I'm not sure. I think I was
Starting point is 00:16:35 at 35 too, but that's a whole different story. You did say your wife, you know, in the bio, you did say your wife is still telling you to grow up. So that might be a sign. Yeah. Everyone likes a little might be a sign. Yeah. Everyone likes a little bit of a bad boy still. So, and then what happens also is the other person, let's say, you know, the woman, the wife in the relationship.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Well, they start to wonder, you know, does he find me attractive anymore? Is he still in love with me? Is he having an affair? Or has he substituted me with porn? Yeah. Okay. And so that whole depression, that whole distancing, noncommunicative, that just cascades into other areas of your life.
Starting point is 00:17:25 It can cascade into your relationships. It can cascade into your business. If you're a grumpy old guy, guess what? You're not going to be very good at customer service. You're going to be that guy on the lawn going, you kids get off my lawn. That's exactly it. And that has to do with one of the major factors in erectile dysfunction
Starting point is 00:17:43 is actually low testosterone. Oh, so the two are connected then. Well, testosterone is the major driver of your sexual energy. And it acts both on the central and your brain, basically, and locally. So that is a huge factor. That may not be the only one. I mean, that's kind of the first place you look is your testosterone. And then you look at other factors.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Now, if you are a younger guy, and I'm going to say in your 20s and 30s, if you are a younger guy with erectile dysfunction, that often means you are in serious risk of having a heart attack or other heart issues. Yeah. I've seen that commercial on TV where the guy talks about his erectile dysfunction when he's young and he said, it's a,
Starting point is 00:18:36 you know, an indication that there's heart problems. So thank God I never heard that. But yeah, it's kind of scary. Yeah. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:18:41 so it's not unusual. And just kind of to get off this whole, I mean, not to get kind of a yeah yeah so so it's not unusual and uh just kind of to get off this whole i mean not to get kind of a sideline here um there's a thing called porn and pie porn induced erectile dysfunction and this is a yeah you're laughing but it is no i i know it's a motherfucking serious problem uh what what it has to do with is that I read something that in England that most boys by the age of 12, 50% of boys by the age of 12, will watch porn on the internet. Okay. And when you watch, if you start very young, you start to see the porn movies and all this stuff and you have
Starting point is 00:19:26 this totally unrealistic idea of sex. Totally. A lot of women complain about that because these guys show up and they think that they're coming to a porn studio and then they're kind of like wow. You have no idea
Starting point is 00:19:42 how much those guys, what they've shot in their dick to make it hard and stand out like that for an hour and a half. What they, you know, the canes for vacuum pumps, all sorts of shit. And,
Starting point is 00:19:57 and you know, that's just not, you know, and then like, so, so they sit there and they try and compare themselves to this guy who's like, just all jacked up.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And then the other thing that happens is that, first of all, you have this unrealistic expectations about how sex is going to be. And then, of course, you have a total unrealistic expectation of how it's going to be with the other person who's involved with you in the relationship. And then what also happens is that your brain becomes desensitized to normal sexual stimuli. And so it becomes harder and harder to get an erection if you are a habitual or chronic user of porn. The other thing, and I was stunned to find this out, there was a study from the department of defense that looks at porn usage among enlisted servicemen,
Starting point is 00:20:52 and they are more prone to be violent with women. Wow. I know that, I know on the basis, they do have a lot of problem with domestic violence and stuff like that. Yeah, and some of that, that's one of the things they found was a factor with the amount of porn that was consumed. Because you can imagine you're on a base or you're on a ship or whatever, and you're probably just— You're living on porn, man, because you're nowhere near a woman. Yeah, you're 23 and living on porn. So that's kind of the other side of the porn. But the traditional, what you consider the old guy with the erectile dysfunction,
Starting point is 00:21:32 a lot of times that has to do, as you mentioned earlier, with poor vascularity. Or it could be with a traumatic event, like something happened to your prostate or some sort of injury. So those are the more traditional things that we think about. And your testosterone goes down as you age too, right? Well, yes, it goes down very significantly right at age 40 and up. And in some cases, more lower than that. And actually we're seeing, again, doctors are reporting seeing younger and younger men with low testosterone and part of this has to do is that there has been a generational decline of testosterone in men and there was a study called the Massachusetts
Starting point is 00:22:20 male aging study and it was basically from the uh mid 80s till about 2005 and generationally the levels of testosterone in men are going down and the not only are they going down but the lab companies have are adjusting what they consider the normal ranges. They're downgrading the normal ranges of what they consider to be normal. And the ranges are huge in terms of what they consider normal. This explains why I've been growing breasts the last 10 years. Well, that and, uh, I like jewelry too. I like diamonds and shit. Well, well, uh, listen, let, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Okay. So this, this is, this is So this is where sometimes this is where I'm going to draw a distinction here. Low testosterone does not mean that you're going to be feminized. Okay. I think people are saying
Starting point is 00:23:17 that guys are becoming beta males and becoming feminized. And I will say that is incorrect. Unless you're a guy who listens to New Kids on the Block, then you're definitely becoming feminized. No, no, no. What they're becoming
Starting point is 00:23:34 is not feminized because we've all been on the end of an estrogen storm. A few of those. Mighty powerful. Guys are becoming eunuchs. That's not a good picture. What's that?
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's not a good picture. Yeah. So, so it's not that they're becoming feminized. They're becoming eunuchs, which means that they're losing their masculinity and there is nothing that is replacing it. Can I find out who these guys are so I can start dating their wives? If they, yeah, I don't think you're having this problem,
Starting point is 00:24:12 please call into the show and give us your wife's phone number. We appreciate that. You can dial 1-800-555-1212. Yeah. Well, believe me, you don't want to be in that one. I make a great pool boy.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Great on the pool. Yeah. Chris, something tells me you and manual labor don't mix. No, not at all. No. Not unless... I don't want to give you that idea. I mean, I've...
Starting point is 00:24:39 I don't know. I've checked the nuts and bolts on beds that are held together just to make sure that they. So testosterone is kind of disappearing and going down. So what do you recommend people do with that? Well, I, you know, I think that one is, my recommendation is to find a good anti-aging doctor. And the challenge is that most, and I'll get in trouble for this, but most primary care physicians don't really understand hormone optimization for men.
Starting point is 00:25:23 And because they basically treat off of the laboratory averages which are basically going down but secondly there's been for many years there's been all these myths about testosterone which uh i think there's actually a there's actually is a long uh paper uh by the Mayo Clinic that was put out a couple of years ago that kind of dispels a lot of these myths. And you're seeing more and more of these clinics. You're hearing advertising on the radio and television. I think it's not all these clinics. Some of these clinics are great.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Some of them are just ATM machines for the owners, for the operators, because this is a cash business. Your insurance company does not pay for this. And these doctors don't bill to your insurance. They basically say it's cash on pay. But finding a doctor that really understands the values that they're looking at when they look at these tests. My particular doctor, he is dogmatic about it. Every six months, I'm over by a day. He will not renew my prescription.
Starting point is 00:26:32 He's very dogmatic about it. Twice a year, I have to go and look at all sorts of parameters and some other things that we do. I personally have been on testosterone for 22 years. Nice. 22 years. you're you're 65 66 now yeah so they said i'm 367 so when i was 45 when i had that that moment i had a friend of mine who was who was in the space and this was way before it became popular you know like uh you know my pcp was uh and tell me oh you know like you know my PCP was tell me oh yeah your balls are gonna disintegrate your dicks gonna fall off and you can get prostate cancer and die that's easy then that that used to happen to me during marriage
Starting point is 00:27:15 yes take some off puts them in their purr yeah yeah that's what I'm trying to sneak in your room. Yeah. But, so, there were all these, you know, it's going to hurt your heart. It's going to do this. It's going to do that. And, you know, you have to make your own decisions about this. But I can't imagine what my life would be if I was not doing this along with a few other things. Now let me ask you this. So you're taking like a thing to boost your testosterone, is that correct? I'm taking testosterone. It's basically actually testosterone. Okay. So I know that there's something
Starting point is 00:27:59 and you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong here because you've done a lot of research in this, but you have to be careful how much more testosterone, can't more testosterone lead to some other issues if you're getting too much for your body? Well, unless you're going to a place that looks like a WWF casting call room. Most responsible doctors don't have to do that. Basically, what doctors will do, they'll titrate you to effect, to where you're feeling good, where you have some energy. They're not going to give you like, and I will say that most of the time your numbers end up being what they would have been like in their 20s and 30s. Nice.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I had a friend who did some of this work,, he was having problems with the whole stiffness issue. Uh, and, uh, and he, he, he had gotten some, um, enhancement and he's, he's like back, he's like Chris almost like 20 years ago and it helped his energy level. It helped his whole countenance and wellbeing and stuff. So, um, this is a real big deal. I mean, what are some signs that people, that guys should look for if they're low testosterone and they should go have a look into this? I think that, you know, I think just what you mentioned there, and I'll tell you a story in a little bit, but basically if you are basically one low energy, low sex drive, a mental fog, indecisiveness, weight gain, and a loss of muscle mass. Yeah, that's one of the things I've noticed recently in recent years.
Starting point is 00:29:38 My muscle mass, if I work out and stuff, it disappears really fast and it's even harder to build. It used to be when I, if I went and worked out, um, you know, my muscles just be like, boom, here's some muscles for you. And now it seems like I have to work out harder and it seems like they disappear quicker on me. Yeah, no, I, I, that, that only happened. And the reverse of it is that it enhances your ability to retain muscle and put it on. Uh, it improves your, your, uh, whole your whole outlook on life, your positive outlook on life.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Your decision-making process, you feel more in control. It improves your libido. And it's not like – and just so that everybody's very, very clear, taking it will not get you those effects. You have to take it with working out. You have to take it with working out. You have to take it, you know, with your body to respond.
Starting point is 00:30:30 So I'm not going to be able to get, you know, feeling better if I'm eating Big Mac quarter pounders and fries all day, sitting behind the mic here. Yeah. A shot will not give you. So, so that, that is really, really factor. you know the it then then kind of leads into this you know the whole thing about the uh the erectile dysfunction
Starting point is 00:30:55 because that that has is all about your libido it's about your mass it's about your blood flow it's about your attitude it's about how good you feel about yourself all those things are factoring that and uh and so it's it's a it's a whole life wellness thing so if they go to your site how can they find out more data about this do you have like a thing on your site or videos that are particular where's some more where they can tap into your research okay well if you go to my junk does not work.com i have an interview with a friend of mine named jay campbell and he's an expert on testosterone optimization therapy and we talk about that uh we talk about the uh the relationship between testosterone and erectile dysfunction. Then we talk also about testosterone therapy. What do those numbers mean from the laboratory?
Starting point is 00:31:54 What's bullshit and what's not bullshit? How to identify a good doctor um the uh because there's a whole uh if you end up talking again i don't mean to be um uh basically deriding them and i'm not because they they they're kind of in a tough place but most of the time your priority care physician will not know and i will i will tell you that this is kind of i mentioned this to somebody somebody I was talking to the other day. I have two sets of doctors. I have two kinds of doctors that I have. I have my disease doctors, which are, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:34 if I got a bad joint or if I got this or I got, you know, something that needs attention or whatever. And quite frankly, I don't care if that if that doctor if he or she is 400 pounds and you know whatever you know if they're an expert in their field and they're the best in their field it does not matter the flip side is if you are in the anti-aging space as a practitioner, my deal is I better want to look like you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Is that kind of like a cook thing where you want to, you know how good they are based upon what they look like, how good of a cook they are? Well, you know, it's a matter of, you know, are you reaping the benefits of the therapy you're promoting? Are you walking and talking your therapy? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Exactly. Cause you're not, I'm, I'm out of there. I don't believe you. Cause you don't know what the, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. So on your website,
Starting point is 00:33:34 do you have like doctors you recommend and stuff like that? Pardon me? On your website, do you have like doctors you recommend or? I don't recommend any people with doctors. Okay. Cause it, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:44 people are just all over the place yeah uh but we talked with jay and i talked about how to find the right doctors yeah and and the importance of that because uh it is a challenge uh and actually uh jay's got a great book that's a software called testosterone optimization therapy and um again he's uh uh he's a great knowledge. But, like I said, I've been through it. I've been through a lot of doctors, tried all sorts of forms of administration, from gels to pellets to shots.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Wow. They have pellets? Yeah. Yeah, they have pellets. My take on the pellets, one, is I had real problems with the surgical area that they'd served them. They're opening what they call sterile abscesses, which are a pain in the ass, literally a pain in the ass, because that's what they put it, to deal with.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And the other thing is that no one knows how quickly you metabolize those pellets. Some people metabolize them really fast. Some people really slow. So there's no, there's no rhyme or reason about how quickly you metabolize those. And, you know, I've had,
Starting point is 00:34:57 like I said, I've had several doctors and one doctor's in jail. That was a little interesting. Was he a good doctor or a bad doctor? He was knowledgeable, but he was an arrogant prick. And now he's in jail. Yeah, now he's in jail because he was doing bad stuff. He was doing what you mentioned when you talked about the monster super physiological doses.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Oh, wow. And somehow his name came up with that whole thing with that wrestler, I think it was somewhere in Alabama or whatever. Yeah, suicide or murder. Oh, that thing. I think I remember that. His name somehow surfaced and named
Starting point is 00:35:38 that thing. Yeah, that and stupidity. Arrogance and stupidity will do that to you. So if you're a guy out there and you're wondering, you know, is my testosterone waning and all that good stuff, they should check out your website. They should watch your videos, learn more about you.
Starting point is 00:35:56 They can probably reach out to you and get some consulting. Do you offer any of that? We're starting to. I have not quite set up an official program, but that's something that's coming on board. You do some erectile coaching? Yeah. Uh, yeah. Remotely, remotely. I do. I, I, I, uh, I'll send you some pictures of me talking. Well, if you just, as long as they're on Snapchat, that's fine. Uh, the, uh, you know, I, I, I usually have my testosterone checked fairly regularly. Me and Robert Kraft, we go down to those massage parlors,
Starting point is 00:36:26 the Rub and Tugs down there on Eastern and Sunset, and he holds my hand and whatever. But, yeah, I mean, if you're a guy and you're wondering about these things, I mean, like I said, I've noticed in my old age that, you know, my sex drive has kind of died off. It doesn't help with my weight. I'm sure my age is a factor. And, you know, I'm kind of at that age where if the girlfriend says, hey, do you want to get on tonight?
Starting point is 00:36:57 I'm like, what are you cooking? Do you have some sandwiches or some spaghetti or something? That sounds a whole lot easier for me to take down. But no, I mean, it's probably something I need to look at because, like I said, the way my muscles disappear are just, it's really kind of crazy now. And it's a little hard for me to pick up those Victoria's Secret girls unless I get that muscle going. I didn't know the catalogs weighed that much. Boom.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You should just have a mic and just do a mic drop right there. That was a good one. That was awesome. I didn't know the catalogs weighed that much. So, no, you, my friend, are at a critical age. And I say that is that while guys that are in their 60s and 70s can this decline in your testosterone levels, then you will have a, you know, prevention. So to a large extent of a preventive measure is that you will not have the significant decline that a man who does not get on it until later in life or at all.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Because at some point, sometimes people are so far gone, it's kind of like they're just so used to it that they don't even know any better because it's happening to you so slowly. Yeah, it's a slow decline. One thing I've started doing, we used to make fun of my dad because he always used to nap all the time. I noticed that I like to nap a lot these days is that maybe
Starting point is 00:38:48 a sign or am I just an old fart I don't know I don't nap I'm just wondering because you know I think I think you're an old fart I think you're old beyond your years I think my testosterone has gone down quite a bit I mean I had to
Starting point is 00:39:04 quit dating the 19 year old Victoria's Secret Scrolls, and I just stick with the 21-year-olds now. Oh, yeah. You and Epstein. Well, no. I stick to 18 and over. I ain't going to jail, baby. When you start dating girls with braces, I don't even like girls.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I've seen girls like 30 and 35 and they have braces because they're fixing their teeth and shit and I'm just like I don't know that just that's just weird to me man not going there once you once you cross that line you don't go back so I don't I'm not going I'm not going
Starting point is 00:39:39 to go hang out with the Jared at Wendy's or no Subway Jared I don't want to share a cell with that dude yeah famous famous uh sex uh perverts but you know you speak to something it's very uh it's true uh there's a friend of mine on um uh Facebook and she's spoken at Ted and she talks about one of the biggest problems is you know you and I didn't have that problem. We had Sears catalogs and girls and Easter dresses with hot ankles down at the train station.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Um, the, the kids nowadays, they have, they have, uh, access to the, just the most pervasive porn you can find on the internet in all different,
Starting point is 00:40:21 uh, flavors of fetishes to the point you can't imagine and i can't imagine once you get hooked on a fetish i mean you're there and if you're meeting new girls you're you know you're like hey man i like doing this uh uh chimpanzee swing vietnam sex chair with a midget in the room and they're just going like, what the hell is going on here, man? At least most of them are. I thought you loved me. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And women are just like, you know, that's like year 10 of a marriage when things start going downhill. Then we bring in the chimpanzee and the midget. Yeah, I used to have five rules of life. And rule number three is all guys lie. The more they want something, the better they lie.
Starting point is 00:41:13 The first lie you'll hear is I love you forever. It's followed by, I won't tell anyone. Sounds like you're actually most of the women I did, but,
Starting point is 00:41:32 but, but no, I mean, it's a real big thing. Do you think the lowering of testosterone and in men's system, is it just a de-evolution? Is it the food we're eating, the chemicals that we have around us?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Uh, something that I think, I think some people have surmised and I imagine this is probably theory, but you know, like some, some of its chemicals, some, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:56 we've got food now that has so much antidepressants is coming from the, you know, it's not, it's not theory. Uh, a lot of this has to do with what's what's the term of the the technical terms called endocrine disrupting compounds okay and so it it has to do with basically the hormones that are put in the food, the processing chemicals.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I mean, if you buy it in a can and it's good until 2025, that's like something that was put into an embalming fluid. I'm never going to be looking at a can that means the same. Thanks, buddy. Just ruined chili for me. Thanks, buddy. It's just really chilly for me. Good till 2025. There's all the hormones that are put into animals. That's true. You've seen lots of people talk about that,
Starting point is 00:42:57 like getting the BST or BTS out of like butter and milk. BPA, BPA. Well, plastics, BPA plastics. Yeah, there's that too. Yeah. So all that GMOs. Yeah, GMOs. GMOs.
Starting point is 00:43:11 All of that stuff is not stuff that we are designed to consume. And so we're having a huge assault on our endocrine system. And it's not just affecting testosterone, but it's affecting everything. And it's affecting,. And it's affecting, actually it's affecting also women. So one of the things that, that is really scary is that there was a study done by the world health organization.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And that said sperm counts in men in the industrialized world, this is just in the industrialized world, are down by 50% from 1973 to 2011. Wow, man. That makes it harder for the whole thing to reproduce and all that good stuff. I mean, maybe it's just effect of all this pollution and crap we have in the systems, the mercury. I've had friends up in the Northwest that have gotten mercury poison because they're eating too much fish because they live up there. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:12 There's a study out of Hebrew University in Israel that said that if this trend continues at the rate it is, most men in civilized countries and industrialized world are going to be infertile by 2050, 2060. Wow. They could really use that up where I'm staying now to write a book in Utah. They could use some infertility.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I think there are some people that really I'd like to see stop reading. It's always the guy with eight kids who you don't want him to have eight kids you know what I mean you know who's populated though it's third world countries
Starting point is 00:44:54 yeah that's who's not affected by this and so not that I ever read the not that I have the Atlantic monthly coming to my house or anything but i was reading an article uh yesterday and it was just like it talked about how what's happening is that like the large metropolitan areas like new york city chicago los angeles san francisco
Starting point is 00:45:17 are becoming kid-free zones and yeah and they talked about how we are not reproducing and we are not having as much sex as we were in the past and now they were they were they're they they totally and actually i was going to write to the author of this thing uh because the real underlying cause of this is one low sex drive with low testosterone low sperm counts and this is not this is not just a phenomenon in the united states this is actually uh becoming a kind of a worldwide thing where uh you know uh it's it's becoming an issue so they've been talking about how the millennials aren't breeding as much having kids uh one of the problems with the millennials and the gen uh z-ers or wires i can't keep track of which week it is
Starting point is 00:46:10 gen xers um i call them young punks or if i'm really young pukes i i tell them i i call them get off my lawn uh the you know you brought this up earlier the nmc and relationship and stuff uh i mean certainly if you're in a relationship with a woman, hopefully you care about her intimacy and making sure that everybody's happy in the sexual part of the relationship. And really, to me, that's what being in a relationship and being married to is. You've got to balance everything. The intimacy of your friendship relationship you have in a marriage or relationship and also the sexual part of it because if you don't have the sexual part you're just really a friendship and people's needs aren't being met on both sides um or maybe just on one side really if you're one of those guys who
Starting point is 00:46:55 finishes in about five seconds but uh they've attributed some of it to the disposal nature disposal nature of like you know these apps like Tinder, where you can just call it, you know, it's, it's, you're not really calling up sex, but you're basically calling up a one night date that wham, bam, thank you, mom, and you don't call her. And, and in those sort of, I'm sure in those sort of experiences, you don't really care about the intimacy and the fulfillment of both partners quite as much. And I guess, I suppose that's a factor as well. I think so. I'm not, to be real honest, you know, I mean, since I've been married for so long, I haven't
Starting point is 00:47:30 really been keeping track of these kind of things. I just kind of hear about peripherally. But if, you know, if you are not in a committed relationship, I think that yeah, it only makes sense that you're you're really just Not You're really just thinking about yourself. I'm in a Men's group and the guy who runs this guy named Garrett J. White and he uses the term Basically basically screwing without a relationship is a vaginal masturbation. I Have some jokes in, but it might take me to write them. Yeah, but that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:48:12 It's just, you know, if you're not in a relationship and you're not, and it's just really about, you know, it's really about just coming at that moment, it's vaginal masturbation and uh and uh you know that that's that's all it is it's kind of an empty gesture yeah and and and um i i think it contributes to all this different stuff there's a lot of stuff going on in our world and and uh these chemicals you know recently and and the power of it's pretty amazing. Like recently, one of my dogs started, she's a female dog who's been fixed. She started leaking. And I went to the doctors
Starting point is 00:48:52 and I'm like, you know, she's leaking urine on the floor and what's going on. And, you know, she can go pee outside. There's no problem there. And he says, well, you know, this happens with a lot of dogs. We, you know, we fixed her, we took out the insides and so she doesn't have estrogen. So they ended up having to give her a synthetic estrogen. This happened just a few weeks ago and boom, just like night and day, no more problems. She's, she's a much happier dog. She's got a lot more energy. She's having a great time now. And you know, whether you're a woman you need estrogen man you need testosterone uh these things make a night and day difference in your accountants oh they do they do you know people don't understand um i'll tell you a personal story uh that experience just recently
Starting point is 00:49:41 i took a three-week trip with my youngest daughter to new zealand in december and uh we had a great time and i was talking to my wife and i generally you know i think you can tell i'm pretty pretty funny guy pretty easygoing this is that i mean i'm not prone to uh to uh rages or whatever. I'm usually using pretty, pretty funny, pretty good going. Except when you piss me off. There's no gradual, there's no gradual.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Well, sometimes you got to kill somebody. I mean, that's just my role. Another good, another good reason for living in Vegas. There's plenty of desert. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:25 But she was telling, she was talking to me, and she's like, you're really, you know, we were like into this. Like, you're really negative. What's going on? You should be having a time with your wife. And then I talked to her about two days later. She goes like, are you taking your testosterone? And I go, no, I left it because I didn't want to, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:39 one bad day with a border agent. You know, even though everything I had was legal, I got a description and all that stuff. You know, just a bad day with a border agent, you know, even though everything I had was legal, you know, I got a description and all that stuff, you know, just a bad day with the border, so I left it, and she said, boy, you are, she said, I really, in terms of my mental attitude about things, I mean, I wasn't like a raving asshole, but I was a lot more negative than I normally am. I'm always a raving asshole, so maybe I do need to look at my testosterone. Then I just need to see a shrink.
Starting point is 00:51:07 One of the things about testosterone like I'm on is that you don't become a raving asshole. If anything, you become a dick. I'd rather be a dick than an asshole. A very hard dick. The low-hanging fruit jacks on this one.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It's good when I can make a guy who just stand up and comedian and laugh at that. That was like such an easy joke too. This is our great there. If that got any more low hanging, then I don't know. There's a ball drop joke there somewhere, but I'm not going to go
Starting point is 00:51:47 on the journey to find it. So anything else we need to know about Orist, you and what you guys are doing there as we wrap up the show? Anything more we need to know? There's more coming. I'm not talking about getting the testosterone i mean like you well not just you but your website the guy so and so uh you know i i think if i if i'm a guy or or
Starting point is 00:52:16 going with a guy uh the first thing that i would look at is my testosterone and so i i think that you know finding a doctor that you're comfortable uh i've been fortunate that i've always even with even with the guy that went to jail he was actually a very good doctor he was just an arrogant prick uh who's gotten in trouble uh but uh you know i've been pretty fortunate with with most of my doctors and you know take your time to find because this is a very important decision, because you're going to have a long relationship with this doctor. It may be... I need to find a hot one?
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yeah, find a hot one. You don't just marry one. They're all making a lot of money, so you better be making a lot of money too. That's pretty much any chick I've ever met in my life buddy well i had a friend some guy actually the guy i've mentioned to gary j white said yeah yeah usually uh at age 30 people uh women are more uh are more interested in your wallet than they are in your abs after 24 or 25. Yeah. So I think that would be the biggest thing is I'd look at my testosterone levels and find a good doctor who really understands what those numbers mean.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Because there's a lot of these clinics now that open up, and some of them, my suspicion is that some of them are just like cash cows. They have a one-size-fits-all approach to this and uh and that's that's not good that's not going to be good uh the second thing is that uh you know uh if you go to my like i said i'm gonna pitch my stuff my junk does not work.com my junk does not work.com that's right uh you go there and you'll get the uh the interviews I did with the doctors in Great Lane. Plus a lot of bonus material. And you'll also get, mind you, this is important.
Starting point is 00:54:17 You may want to write this down, Chris. All right. Three ways to get laid more frequently without begging. Escort agencies? No, I'm just kidding. No, no, no. They're not paid for. That's to say it was begging.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Everyone pays. So you'll get a report from you, three ways to get more. My insight, three ways to get laid more frequently without begging. All right. There you go. How many mistresses? Is it three mistresses? Is that the three ways? No, no, no. This is a committed relationship.
Starting point is 00:54:53 I'm committed to three mistresses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, you wouldn't know what to do with three. Not right now, but if I give you some testosterone, I might. We got stuff to do.
Starting point is 00:55:10 We're going to go back to hammer some nails, baby. I'm going to do some vaginal atrophy. Rejuvenation, not atrophy. You do atrophy for fifth use, dude. I don't know. I'm not sure I'm using that word properly. I went to public school. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:55:29 So give us your final plugs. Let everyone know where they can find you on the interwebs. Okay. So basically at myjunkdoesnotwork.com, that's the number one place to go to because you can reach me from there from anywhere. Also, my blog is oldguytalks.com, and oldguytalks.com, and that's where I have my interviews. That's going to be changing here in just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I'm going to kind of change the whole look about it. And the old guy talks about stuff that, well, most people don't want to talk about. It's like talking about vaginal atrophy, vaginal rejuvenation. I talk about what old guys need to know about menopause. Talk about the no-sex marriage, masturbation, and infidelity. And we go places where most people don't want to go to. no sex marriage masturbation and infidelity and We we go place that we go places Where most people don't want to go to I also do stuff like I had a chance to speak with the
Starting point is 00:56:35 head of the NFL brain injury concussion So it's not all it's not all just a relationship I go there uh talk about uh healing therapies to heal muscles uh peptides uh stem cells uh talk about relationships fifteen thousand dollar rocking chairs and uh and humidors there you go i got uh daniel marsh Marshall, who's a master humidor maker. His clients are like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Will Smith, every president of the United States, including him. So, I mean, that's his client base. And so I interviewed him about humidors.
Starting point is 00:57:17 He's actually a fascinating, fascinating guy. Did he ever do it for JFK? JFK, I really love that. No, he's too young for JFK. Okay. But he did have a special edition for Bill Clinton. Nice. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I just got that joke. That took me a second. That took me a second. Wow. You're going to need some special universe for Bill Clinton. I don't even know how you get that. Whatever. But does it come with dresses
Starting point is 00:57:45 no anyway um not for bill uh anyway it's been really awesome be sure to check out oris's website i can tell you i've watched a bunch of his videos he's a very entertaining guy on instagram uh his youtube video channel and stuff i think you'll like him he doesn't just talk about dicks and and uh and stuff he talks about talks about just sometimes life and stuff. You're having some fun with whatever's kind of bugging you for the day, a rant or something. Yeah, we're doing a cigar and liquor night with my friend named Larry Poppy, who owns Sticks Cigars in Carefree, Arizona. Nice. We're going to be talking about cigars and a liquor he's got
Starting point is 00:58:28 a baby bell or something like that he's trying to get me back on bourbon i'm i had a bad experience when i was a senior in college with bourbon haven't been able to drink it since then really i said that was a long time ago and uh but i'll give. I'll give it a whiff. Sure, man. I'll have my bucket plenty handy in case I hear it right away. All right. Well, if you're a guy who's starting to age there, if you're feeling your testosterone going down or other parts of you going down,
Starting point is 00:58:59 be sure to check out, go to his website and learn more about it. Become more open about these things. That's the biggest problem that guys have we don't talk about the stuff we just kind of decide to go off and i don't know shoot safari animals and in giraffes and shit and and take on our anger so uh that or you know we do horrible things to our wives which we shouldn't do and end up in domestic violence court so uh have yourself looked at get your health uh taken in place uh check your space and and uh learn some more about it. And the nice thing about Oris is with his videos and information, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:30 he kind of takes away that taboo and you can feel like you're talking to your best friend and, you know, he can kind of save you from having to talk to your friends about it. I mean, usually I just, when I'm out fishing with my buddies, I whip it out and he goes, does this thing look hard enough to you? And you don't have to do that now. So you can learn from his knowledge base,
Starting point is 00:59:48 take it from there, and that way you don't have to go through all the bad experimentation that I'm sure you, good, bad, and ugly, that you went through when you were doing this. And you can talk to your friends. Talking to me is like talking to your friends instead of your probation officer. There you go. That's always a good thing.
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