The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Purposeful Health: An Intentional Guide To Personalized Wellness by Katie Molumby

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

Purposeful Health: An Intentional Guide To Personalized Wellness by Katie Molumby https://amzn.to/3xHcztY In this compelling exploration of the modern health landscape, delve into the harsh realities and gaps in our overall wellness. Purposeful Health takes you on a riveting journey through the disconnect from our bodies, the profit-driven healthcare pitfalls, and the alarming rise of prescribed medications. Discover how shifting mindsets, despite limited time with healthcare providers, can be your catalyst for change. It's time to empower yourself with daily choices that have profound impacts on your well-being. Meet Katie, a certified health and mindset coach driven by a profound mission: guiding others to discover their purpose and integrate it into their wellness journey. With a background in social services, Sociology, and Psychology, Katie's path culminated in her dream role of health coaching. Her journey, enriched by hundreds of clients, humbles and empowers her. Trained by the Institute of Integrated Nutrition (IIN), Katie adeptly blends holistic practices into her coaching, fostering transformative lifestyle shifts. Passionate about nurturing purpose, balance, and joy, Katie dedicates herself to empowering individuals to embrace their healthiest, happiest selves—an endeavor she finds deeply fulfilling. About the author Meet Katie, a certified health and mindset coach driven by a profound mission: guiding others to discover their purpose and integrate it into their wellness journey. With a background in social services, Sociology, and Psychology, Katie's path culminated in her dream role of health coaching. Her journey, enriched by hundreds of clients, humbles and empowers her. Trained by the Institute of Integrated Nutrition (IIN), Katie adeptly blends holistic practices into her coaching, fostering transformative lifestyle shifts. Passionate about nurturing purpose, balance, and joy, Katie dedicates herself to empowering individuals to embrace their healthiest, happiest selves—an endeavor she finds deeply fulfilling.

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She's going to be joining us in the show to talk about it and give you the insights and stories of her life. She's a certified health coach and author of the best-selling book, before mentioned. She specializes in helping individuals bring intentionality to their health and wellness practices. Does intentionality include McDonald's? We'll find out. Katie combines her background in social work, mental health, psychology, and integrated

nutrition to guide you to think for your health. Welcome to the show. How are you, Katie? I'm doing very well. Thrilled to think for your health. Welcome to the show. How are you, Katie? I'm doing very well. Thrilled to be here, Chris. Thanks for having me. There you go. And we're thrilled to have you as well.

Congratulations on the book. Give us your dot coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs? Absolutely. Purposefulhealth.com is my website. There you go. And so give us a 30,000 overview. What's inside your new book?

Yes. There's over 150 different topics about life. It's all meant to bring everything back to how it's impacting your health. So I think there's a lot going on in the world that we don't really think relates back to our health and wellness. And this book is meant to get you to think about it. Think about your health, darn it. Why do people sometimes forget about their health and not pay attention? You know, it's a very fast-paced life we live in. I think we are bombarded with a lot of success stories and, you know, magic fixes, you know, like a magic pill that's going to fix everything for us. And I want people to really start thinking about

their own life and apply individuality to their health and wellness practices rather than copying and pasting what works for someone else. Definitely. It's, you know, it's using, I mean, everyone's kind of different with their genetics, right? So copying and pasting what's working for other people might not work good for you, right? Absolutely. There you go. Let's talk about your upbringing. How did you get into this field? How did you grow up and what got you interested in health? Yes.

So I grew up on a pretty standard American diet, lots of McDonald's, fast food, meat and potatoes. I grew up loving McDonald's, to be honest. And what sparked an interest and kind of woke me up a little bit was watching the show Supersize Me. I'm not sure if you've seen that. That really started getting some wheels spinning for me. And I gave up McDonald's on the spot. And around that same time, I went through a health crisis myself, which I know you can kind of relate to. I was a freshman in college, first time on my own, and I started having alarming stomach issues and went to the doctor dozens of times and felt kind of undermined.

I was kind of fed fiber and laxatives and stool softeners, and the doctors didn't really ask me anything about my lifestyle or diet choices to begin with, so I felt very frustrated. I eventually kind of demanded to see a specialist who was able to see that it was physically something wrong with me. And I had a surgery to correct it, but that is really what inspired me to become a health coach and help others become an advocate for their own health and wellness as well. There you go. What you put in your body, you know, what do they say? Losing weight begins in the kitchen or something like that?

Or, you know, basically what you put in your body. If it's in your house, it's in your mouth. That's the one rule I live by. So don't bring it home. That's always a good one. But, you know, some of these different things. So how long have you been doing this? How long has your journey been being a health coach now?

Yeah, I've only been doing this for about four years. I've been in social work for over a decade. So you're pretty natural. It's fit for helping people and coaching them and all that good stuff. So when you talk to people and you're shaping a health plan for them, I guess that's what you do. Is that correct? That's correct. That's part of what we do, yes.

Yep. And giving them the coaching and all that stuff. How do you help them change? I mean, evidently there's more than just changing the food on their menu. It's mindset, personal accountability, et cetera, et cetera. Yes. I'm not trying to pretend like I have all the answers for anyone. I really approach everyone with an open mind and I try to be as curious as possible. And I know you've talked about loving being curious. I think asking the right questions can get us a long way with helping people really understand where they are, what they need to change and what they want for themselves going forward. So that's my magic ingredient with my coaching is asking the right questions. Definitely.

And having the right mindset for it too. You know, the one thing I learned, I was always trying to lose weight. And of course I really wasn't when it came down to it, but I thought it was. And, you know, I was like, maybe I'll eat an apple today on top of all the fast food shit I'm going to eat and a half a bottle of vodka with Mountain Dew as a chaser and 15 Mountain Dews a day, 10 to 15 Mountain Dews a day. It was pretty insane at the time. Yeah. I'm surprised I lived through any of it or that I even have health, but it was a fun ride, I guess. I don't know. But I lived through all this you know i'd eat an apple and i'm like this didn't help what the hell and i read the book presto by pen gillette and it really changed

my life because in it it was more so about him changing his mindset and his rules and regulations around food that were limiting him it wasn't just about eating right it was about changing what was going on in his brain and by mimicking some of that stuff, it really helped me. And I started having these epiphanies where I just wake up one day and realized how much I'd been conned by the food pyramid and how much I'd been conned by advertising companies that are like, you should drink Mountain Dew. It's good for you.

And realizing that I just turned myself into this chemical dumping station of a super site dump of toxic chemicals just like the EPA does for all these companies.

I was shoving Oreos and Doritos and everything in my mouth and I even had rules. Like one of my rules was I go to the store and I buy healthy food. I get a reward. So it was like a Mountain Dew and a candy bar to drive home with. And it was like something from my childhood imprint where my mom would be like, you know, if you're good at the checkout counter, we'll give you a reward and get you a little treat.

And so here I am, 40 years old, treating myself like some kind of child, and I'm like, and it's not even treating. It's, okay, here's a bag of poison and a can of poison. Here's your treat. Thanks. So I realized that that mindset was really, like it was everything. It was really important. You're so right.

One of the chapters of my book is called Health is an Inside Job, and it talks all about that. I've spent a lot of time feeling like I was doing all the right things and not losing the weight, not getting the results I wanted. And really, it was because the way I was talking to myself, the justification behind what I was doing was off. I wasn't moving from a place of true self-love, unconditional love and understanding. It was kind of like shame and blame and punish myself into doing the right things. And that's never a sustainable way to make change in your life. There you go. Yeah, because it's not very motivating. And when you feel good, you know,

I started feeling better, eating better and feeling well. And then seeing the weight just drop off the scale. I mean, I was just like, okay, this is fun now. And, you know, at first I quit the Mountain Dews. And then I started making salads and kind of became veganese. So I don't even know what venue of the 50 trillion variations of veganism there is and anytime i try and identify one i get i don't know i get sued by some group anyway boy they get militant about it they really do they're like no if you if you had eggs then then you're over here and then if you eat fish you're over here and it's like all right i just i ate more salad okay is that making people

happy you're a plant lover. Yeah. At least for, you know, I was gay for the stay basically. Now I still eat salads though. Not quite as much because I'm lifting weights, but I lost a hundred pounds in three, four months really fast. And yeah, I mean, people, women hated me online because I would post my, I would post my scale every morning and I'd drop like three to four pounds. But, I mean, that's how heavy it was. I was almost 400 pounds.

And, you know, I'd been drinking so much Mountain Dew, I was probably just, I don't know, half my fat was Mountain Dew fat. So it was just falling off of me. But, you know, it makes all the difference. You talk about how you delved into over 150 areas of health over 10 months, traditional self-care practices and other things, social work, psychology, mental health, and nutrition. What were some of the things you found and how did that shape your work? Absolutely. I found that health is a lot more than just what we what we eat it's a big part of it exercise is another

big part of it but there's a lot more to it i think a lot of people again we're fed so much on social media these days and and just the world we live in we see someone thriving and healthy and we think i'm going to do exactly what they're going to do and i'm going to i'm going to get the same results and most people end up feeling very defeated shortly after it's not sustainable for them and their preferences or their lifestyle in general. Really just taking in this book will get you to examine over 150 different areas of life. I mean, are you a jealous person? Do you have competitive nature? What traumas do you need to heal from? It really just gets, I'm not pretending to have all the answers, but I get you to think about a wide array of

topics and how they can be impacting your health and the way you're living your life. Oh, wow. I never thought about that. Traumas could affect how you're eating and stuff. I know one thing about people that are in rehab is a lot of them that are and people that are overweight is a lot of them experience sexual trauma as a child and so one of the one of the reasons they become overweight is they're trying to make themselves unattractive to potential assaulters it's it's kind of like a defense mechanism in some way and then of course they're eating over the anxiety and then resolve trauma and stuff but i never thought about that wow yeah i mean people probably use food as a as a way to cope sometimes mechanism and you know definitely a reason to get into therapy but i never thought of it that way i

mean i was probably coping with some of my childhood trauma and just coping with i don't know me being a jerk most of the times by you know, it's crap. You know, the dopamine that you get from, you know, these fast food meals and stuff are chemically made to basically give you dopamine hits just like heroin or, you know, any one of these drugs that are out there on the market. Not that I take any, but they're designed to hack your brain and trigger those responses to where you want you're like i want more absolutely

yep the scientists are doing their jobs they're making it as addictive as possible and giving us that immediate dopamine hit with making it taste as good as possible it's bright colors you know artificial flavors that are gonna pop and your eyes are gonna think wow that looks delicious yeah i mean mountain dew's got that bright radioactive sort of color you know they always have baja blasts kind of cool looking and you're just like that looks like fun to drink let's put that in my stomach and absolutely or later you're like you know i used to live on like tums and roll aids like 24 7 especially at night i was always like five or six times a night rolling over to bed to grab some Rolaids.

Just my stomach was being eaten alive. I think for a lot of years, I think I damaged at one point my, that little flipper that's on your stomach that seals in all the stuff that's in your stomach. Yeah. And for a long time, I couldn't sleep. If I ate too soon, I couldn't sleep on my right side, I believe, or else it would all come up somewhere in the middle of the night. Now it all seems to have healed up or, I don't know, I'm just dying inside probably.

It's beautiful. Yeah. But, you know, I seem to have really good health. So either I'm going to be one of those people who has really good health all their life, and then one day I'm just going to fall off a cliff or I don't know, a bus will hit me tomorrow. So why is it important to have a health coach and not try and do all this stuff yourself? Absolutely. You know, you can try, I would say there's nothing against trying to do it on your own, but I think all of us at some point in our life could use a health coach. The stuff we're

getting at the FaceTime with our doctors is very minimal. They're not really going to be able to dive into your lifestyle choices in that 15 minutes or less of that conversation that you're going to have with your doctor and a health coach and really cover all of those areas that you're not going to get with your doctor. What are you eating? How are you sleeping? How are your relationships? All of the things that are outside of taking a pill and, you know, having a diagnosed condition that the health coach can really bridge those gaps. I'm not against doctors. I'm not, you know, diminishing your need for a doctor by any means. I collaborate with doctors. I want to help them write a care plan for their patients.

And I want to help them kind of the clients, patients follow through with those. So I hold my clients accountable. I bring that accountability and motivation piece. But the doctors just they don't they're not trained on how to assess lifestyle choices or how those are going to impact health overall. They're going to make a diagnosis and treat with the medication most likely. So. Yeah. They're, they're mostly just always throwing the pills at you instead of, you know, a lot of the, like I said, I, I, I was going through a lot of roll aids and, you know, I probably could have went to the doctor

and said, Hey, I'm going through a lot of roll aids. Do you have something prescription level prescription level you know that could fight off all this mountain dew i'm drinking and you know they probably would have given me something that i don't know man it has some side effects or something and in reality you know the doctor should just you know said to me hey dummy it could be the mountain dews absolutely yeah let's start there with the case of you do a day yeah and that's what i did and then you know all of a sudden i noticed the roll-aids bottle one day sitting in the door and i'm like i haven't touched that in months oh it was the all the crap i was eating you know and i went i started eating salads and eggs and doing what i call live fresh foods where I only would go around the store part where there's the live fresh foods and that that's all I'd buy and then I'd leave and that was another

trick I had don't go down the aisles the bad aisles the stay on the outside of the store where the hell live food is I love that that's good that's a good method. Yeah. So what about exercise and weight? How do you help people not only with diet, but help keep them on track with exercise and weight? Yeah. Everyone's different, but it starts with really figuring out what you enjoy. You know, a lot of people will go to a personal trainer and nothing against personal trainers. They're wonderful if you're learning certain exercise moves. But I really help you figure out what lights you up, what's going to be able to be sustainable for you because you

actually enjoy it. So I used to try to force myself to run. I was never consistent with it because I hated running, but I started actually doing what I love, which is dancing, anything like with music going, I can get my body, you know, in sync with the music. And I could do that for eight hours a day. When you love what you do, it's going to be easy to keep up with it. Also, taking into account everyone's different lifestyles, some people force themselves to go to the gym,

and they'll drive a half hour, 45 minutes one way to go to a gym. And they spend so much time on the drive that they only do it once or twice a week. Really, there's capability for anyone to find a pretty easy and effective workout routine right in your own home. Really trying to figure out what's going to make it the most sustainable for you and the easy to access. There you go. You know, I have a treadmill at home and then I have some little weights. And so if I'm, if I can't get to the gym or something, then I'll, I'll try that. I usually like to go at night when, you know, a lot of people don't like to go to the gym. They feel intimidated.

I think a lot of women don't like going to the gym because, you know, a bunch of weird guys looking at them and, you know, sometimes that competitive nature with women and, and stuff. And, you know, I mean, if you're, I always, I always go to the gym, man, whenever I see somebody really large like me walking around, and I used to be larger when I go to the gym. And, you know, you can tell they're not regulars at the gym. They're not your usual people that are there. I think they should have, like, somebody who goes around and gives those people a hug and says, you know, we're proud of you for showing up, man.

Keep showing up. Because those folks need that. You know, i know how hard it is when you start going to the gym and every day you're like i don't want to go again and one of the tricks i learned is i just go to the gym if i don't feel like i'm in the mood i just go and i go okay great you feel like shit so we're gonna go sit in the massage chairs and maybe the sauna and maybe we'll lift a couple weights so we're just gonna go anyway and i know you don't feel like going you know there's some times where i just felt like shit sometimes i

just beat up from a couple days before and so i'll go to the gym and then i'll just go sit in the massage chair and saw a chair work me out i'll go sit in the jacuzzi or not the jacuzzi the sauna the sauna start loosen up all those muscles and then i'll like i'll go i'll go do a machine you know and i'll do a machine and then something about me walking in that place like stuff just kicks into gear and you know pretty pretty soon you're doing the things and and you know maybe you're having off day so you're maybe not doing everything but you just kind of go okay we'll take the weight down 20 pounds and let's go through the motions. And, you know, you're just doing something, but then you're not, you're not sitting at home kicking yourself going, I'm such a lazy jerk.

Put a gun to the gym. Yeah, no, just get, taking out the guesswork, just force yourself there. You don't have to, you know, run a mile or do anything too intensive, but just start warming yourself up and it feels easier as you go. I love that. Yeah. Sometimes I just go, I don't have my bathing suit with me, so I'll just go sit next to the jacuzzi and I'll put my legs and feet in the water. And boy, that gets, you know, the blood going and your feet kind of relax.

There's a lot of, what do they call it, shocker points in your feet. Oh, yeah. So sometimes that just kind of gets you going you're like i kind of feel like doing whatever but it's kind of kind of like one of those old things half the battle is showing up it's kind of that same way for the gym absolutely i feel the same way when i get off of work half the time i don't want to exercise and i just force myself to get into my workout gear once i'm all dressed up and it's what am i going to do now i have nothing else to do but actually do the work the gym work I love to go at night in the middle of the night like I I can

I kind of have my own schedule so I can do that but I really like to go at night when it's just me and there's five other people in the gym I really enjoy that time I don't have to fight anybody for weights or wait for anybody and I can kind of just mosey about the gym I don't have to fight anybody for weights or wait for anybody. And I can kind of just mosey about the gym. I don't have to rush myself too much because I'm trying to catch whoever gets off the next machine. And I really enjoy it. I don't know if I could just, if I could move into a gym and just kind of live there and just kind of let's go lift some stuff every now and then. Maybe that's what I should do. Having a home thing does. So let's move on from your book to what you do on your website and some of the services that you offer and how you do that over there.

Sure. Yeah. I have a little bit of everything going on. We do individual services one-on-one, another an hour session. We also do group sessions. We have workshops. There's a program, a three-month program, so a 90-day program where you can get really intensive with it, stay consistent. That's where you're going to see the most results.

And there's a lot more in the works. I'm working on some more programs to help better my clients and really streamline the process. There you go. Looks like you're going to get quite a few different variations of health. So you've got health history intake, returning single health consultant consultation, birth chart, and life purpose reading. So some people are like into that sort of stuff and maybe trying to help figure out their life purpose and things. Yes. Yep. Just asking questions about, you know, again, I'm not going to tell anyone what their life purpose is, but we'll go through and I'll ask the right questions and they can draw those conclusions for themselves there

you go my life purpose is never drink mountain dew again dude i i gotta tell you after quitting mountain dew and every now and then i'll just go have one for shits and giggles like really rare like every six months and i'm just like how in the hell did i consume 10 to 15 of these a day i seriously was going to cases of it does your body start kind of like shaking on you just with the probably it's just it's just it's just tastes like puke and and it was even worse that i used to mix it with vodka and i gave a vodka too that was really important i started noticing how much your body bloats and you know what your body does is when you drink a whole lot you know

on some friday night or something your body will start storing water because you're dehydrating it so it's gonna if you're gonna keep doing this for a couple more days we don't know what you're doing we're gonna store water and so i would blow it up and be like i feel like a way you know and then i just feel awful my energy would be down i just kind of feel dehydrated for three days no matter how much i mean it used to be a game that i could play with vitamins and b vitamins and and what's those other things potassium and salt and stuff electrolytes but then it just became like those weren't working anymore either it's like we're just going to put you through a personal, ugly pain, misery, and dragging for three days if you want to have a couple hours of fun on Friday.

And so I was like, okay, I get the message. Get the message. We did this for 20 years. We had our fun. Fun time's over. Let's enjoy life. And you just started listening to your body and getting in tune. I think there's something really important to getting in tune to your body and that's kind of when my changes started to happen when i started making changes that's really important and super

powerful i can relate i i used to be a bartender i worked at a microbrewery beer did not do good from good things for this body i i looked a lot older than I do today. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've cut out alcohol as well, and it's been one of the best things that I've done for just, in general, how my body feels on a day-to-day basis. And it's so funny when I go out now, like, bartenders hate me because I always order Cokes or Sprites.

I'll have a Sprite and a lemon lime on it. And I didn't drink anything, and I'm like, I don't drink drink anymore and they always give you that look like oh you're one of your recovering alcoholic i get it and i'm like no i'm actually fine i just i just quit it voluntarily and then they really look at you scant's going are you serious what's wrong with you what kind of weird person are you you gave up alcohol. Because you were tired of hangovers. What kind of weirdo are you? But it's so wonderful. And I tell people, get rid of it.

You know, I mean, it's basically the way you get drunk is you toxify your brain and body. You poison it. Absolutely. Absolutely. Your brain's swelling. That's, yeah. Yeah. My brain swells enough as it is with all the stupid shit I think of and slamming my head against the wall every day with all the craziness of social media.

You have a purposeful health 90-day program, healthy home rescue, custom office six-week program for health coaching as well, designed around a workplace. So helping professionals be good then. Absolutely. Help a whole office get more holistically healthy. I think a lot of times, you know, post COVID even our office environments can be pretty bad for our health, quite frankly. And it doesn't take much to make some small adjustments to fix that and have a space that doesn't feel like triggering for our central nervous system to go into work. So I want to help everyone feel happy and healthy at their workspace.

There you go. And that might get some better production out of people too. Absolutely. That's what that's all about. It's a good investment for the business for sure. Get that production out of those peoples. Give us a run out to tell people how they can onboard with you and inquire about your services, get involved with them, how they can find out, order your book, dot coms, etc, etc.

Absolutely. Yeah, purposefulhealth.com is my website. The services page will show you everything that I have to offer. I'm always available to talk more if you have any questions before jumping on into a program, but I promise you wouldn't regret it. And the book Purposeful Health is available on Amazon. It'll be soon to come out on audiobook as well. So yeah. There you go. Congratulations on the book. And thank you for coming on the show, Katie. We certainly appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me, Chris. It's been a pleasure. Thank you. Thanks, Matt, for tuning in in order of the book where refined books are sold purposeful health and intentional guide to personalize wellness out February 7th, 2024. And I got to tell you guys, if you,

if you adopt these principles, change your health, learn how to get a better mindset, you will, it will change your life and you will be so much happier with yourself. There's nothing more miserable than, I don't know, just living unhealthy. It was the most horrible thing to do, and I'm so glad that one day I just got sick of it and just said, I'm not doing this anymore. And a lot of it doesn't have to do so much with your diet. I mean, it does, but it also has to do with your mindset,

your beliefs beliefs and everything else so check out katie's work go to goodreads.com fortune's christmas linkedin.com fortune's christmas christmas one of the tiktokity and you can buy me a coffee buy me a coffee forward slash chris.com fortune's christmas thanks for tuning in be good to each other stay safe we'll see you next time and that should have us out great show man a lot of fun thank you so much