The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Revolutionary Domestic Violence Reporting App Debuts at CES Show 2024

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

Revolutionary Domestic Violence Reporting App Debuts at CES Show 2024 Nanshe.org Show Notes About The Guest(s): Eric and Jolene are part of a Paris-based tech company called Nanshe. Eric has 20 years of experience in the legal field and has been involved in technology in his companies. Jolene is an attorney and recently joined Nanci to apply their innovative blockchain technology to tackle workplace harassment. Summary: Eric and Jolene from Nanshe, a Paris-based tech company, discuss their revolutionary domestic violence reporting app at CES. The app utilizes blockchain technology to secure intellectual property and protect individuals and companies. It offers features like photo capture, video recording, document scanning, and more to provide evidence of workplace harassment. The app aims to create a safer and more inclusive workplace environment. Key Takeaways: Nanshe's app uses blockchain technology to secure intellectual property and provide evidence of workplace harassment. The app offers features like photo capture, video recording, and document scanning to capture incidents. By using blockchain, the app ensures that the evidence cannot be tampered with or changed. Nanshe aims to help companies create a safer and more inclusive workplace environment. The app can be used by individuals to protect themselves or by colleagues to support each other. Quotes: "Blockchain process will keep the proof intact. Nobody can use it, nobody can change it." - Eric "If you deploy Nanci into your company, people will be more cautious. It's a preventive measure." - Eric

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As always, we're bringing you the most amazing people, the people who are doing all the latest, greatest things, the CEOs, the billionaires, the Pulitzer Prize winners, the great authors, all the people that are just moving the world and trying to put their dent in the universe. We're covering a lot of CES show 2024, if you're not familiar with what that is, the big consumer electronics show that's put on every year by our good friends at CTA. We'll have Gary Shapiro, the president and CEO of CTA, who puts on the CES show, my good friend. He'll be doing his annual appearance on the show that he's been doing for several years now, I think on Wednesday or Thursday of this week, if I recall

rightly. And so watch for that too as well. But all this week we'll be doing continuing coverage of the upcoming show, the vendors that will be at the show. Many of them will be in Eureka Park and you can get a preview of them here so that you know what to look for when you get there to the big CES show. It's actually going to be on Thursday, it looks like. We'll have Gary Shapiro on. Today we have two amazing folks that are also going to be on Thursday, it looks like. We'll have Gary Shapiro on.

Today, we have two amazing folks that are also going to be at CES, and they'll be selling their wares, advertising what they're doing there. AdBash is going to be with us on the show today, and they are a Paris-based tech company debuting a revolutionary domestic violence reporting app at CES based on its innovative blockchain technology system to secure intellectual property. Certif, the brainchild of a veteran expert in the legal field, is a 100% safe digital platform that protects the intellectual property of both companies and individuals. We have two people on the show with us today. Welcome to the show, both Eric and

Jolene. How are you both? Fine, thanks. There you go. So give us your full names and some biography background on both of you, if you would, please. Maybe I will start. You know, like my name is Jolene. I'm the executive director of Nanshi. And basically, you know, like I'm attorney, but I just, you know, like joined the adventure a few weeks ago. And I think, you know, like the technology is amazing. And they did that, you know, like for many years with Certif.

But now, like they apply this technology to Nanshi, which is a proactive solution to prevent and tackle all forms of workplace harassment. And yes, I think it's a wonderful app and I'm really excited to be part of this wonderful adventure. There you go. Eric? Chris, so I was barely for 20 years in France. And I was very involved in technology in my companies.

And also, I work for a big brand company, Luxury. So I bring them some blockchain solution for Trademark, for protected copyright. And then also I was very involved with a lawyer from a divorce and hard divorce, you know. And that's why I have the idea because sometimes the proof for a woman or man, it's very difficult to get. Also in companies, it's very difficult sometimes to take the advantage when you are arrested by someone. Sometimes you have to leave yourself. This is a big disease for people.

So the best for me is to find a way with Certif to help companies to protect harassment girls or women or minority in companies because in France and everywhere in the world because it's not a French problem or US problem. Unfortunately, it's a huge problem everywhere in the world. So it's to take a low pressure on people who are harassed by arrest by someone else. There you go. And the website is ATB Hash. I'm sorry, what? No, the website, it is a company website, but for the app, it's Nanshee.

You can say it, Jolene. No, no, no. I'll let you explain. No, no. Nanshee. N-A-N-S-S-H-E-E.com. Okay, there you go. We just launched before the CES. Okay, maybe tomorrow, after tomorrow, we will launch it. Okay.

And you will discover exactly what was added. But with you in preview, you can understand what is it exactly, and you can explain that. There you go. And so you guys launched this to start the company. And it's focused on this. Now, do you guys have your booth number? Are you guys going to be at Eureka Park, I guess?

Sorry, I can't hear you. Are you guys going to be at Eureka Park there in the Venetian at CES? Sorry, Chris, Eureka Park there in the Venetian at CES? Sorry, Chris, Eureka Park. Are you guys at CES show and Eureka Park is in the basement? That's usually where your booth is. Is your booth, do you have your booth

number for people to look for that? Yes, the booth, yes. I will tell you after I have to check, but I will tell you exactly where is it. Alright, sounds good. We'll put it on the show notes so the people have it and they can do it. So you developed this idea. How many years now have you been working on it? I'm working on it since for blockchain, since 12, 18.

Okay. For luxury companies and after for real estate and for insurance companies since 2020. And then last year we met together. Remember? Yes, I do. Yeah. You were on the show last year we met together remember yes they do yeah you were this year yeah exactly and and we we just pre and just make a preview of what is it nancy and that was not finished i mean a business model etc it was not already finished so we presented it was a very good success and huge success and what we want now we want want to provide for companies all over the world, and certainly most in the U.S., the possibility to protect minorities inside,

and women inside corporations and companies. There you go. So what got you interested in blockchain? What got you into that field? Because of blockchain, you know sometimes people call calling blockchain for crypto currencies and talk about Bitcoin or a term on something you know and we deal with a well and people get money and lost a lot of money but we are not in this business we are in blockchain service I mean the service of blockchain is used for the beginning to protect and also to

Not to interfere and know any changing in any files So this is like this is like, you know seal and into this seal like a government seal, but it's not official But you cannot change anything when you use a blockchain So this is a most powerful security service you can get and it's very easy to use because as a customer when you use Nenshi, you don't care about how it works. It works, that's it.

Even the same thing when you use an iPhone, you don't want to know how it works when you make a photo, you don't want to understand how it works, you just want to make a photo. It is the same rules for us. There you go. So can you give us more in-depth as to how the app works? Is it both on Android

and iPhone now? It works for both. And what are some of the features of it? How does it trigger, etc., etc.? Jolene? Yes, so basically you have seven essential functions. You can do photo capture, video recording, document scanning, retrieval of documents from emails or internet system, access to WhatsApp conversation, live phone screen recording, and also the audio recording.

So it's really easy to use. So when someone's starting to be harassed or bothered, they can trigger it, and it will either start recording video or audio of the event so that there's evidence. Yeah, exactly. And you can save it, and the good thing is you don't save it to your phone, you save it in the cloud.

So I mean, if someone takes your phone and wants to break it or wants to erase it, it's not possible because it is in the cloud so i mean if someone took take your phone and want to break it or want to erase it it's not possible because it is in the cloud and blockchain so also for proof it's very important blockchain process because when you are going to to the court or to a lawyer you can get the right proof not nobody can make it nobody can change it so it's very important but it's not only one day it's for a while so you need to get more proof not only one

and also the good things now you know with WhatsApp for example they just announced it one week ago you can have one message and after it's just a temporary message ago you can have some one one message and after just a temporary message so you can harass and after it's disappear so it's very difficult it will be most difficult now to prove something you receive on your phone because it was only a message when you read it

after it's it's over so that's why it's very important if you are raised you can use and before you read your message you can save it so it's very important to save the proof because this is the most important thing is to get the right proof to go to go on the court or to use a lawyer or to go to the company to say hey hey my boss i have a big issue with these guys because arrest me for a long while now. Yeah. I mean, me getting arrested is pretty much every weekend, so I definitely need the sap. Anyway.

No, I don't. I'm still, I'm still, I think, I think next week I get one of the ankle bracelets off. That's a joke we use on the show. It's a callback joke. One of the ankle bracelets. One of the stack of the ankle bracelets. I think I left out a word on the joke. So this is really interesting, you know, because I mean, when, when, when you're in the moment of being harassed or arrested, or, you know, I imagine whatever the case is, I've watched

cops all my life. The TV show cops. I don't know if you guys have that over there in France. Bad boys. What are you going to do? Maybe you guys have a different sort of version in France. But I've always watched cops, and so it's always kind of interesting to me

how they roll up on people, and you'll see all sorts of stuff that go on. So I'm one of those people that gets an enjoyment out of watching other people's car crash lives, and then I feel better about myself. It's because I'm like, I haven't been arrested this year. So that's a good thing I'm wondering if you can explain

what is the impact for the company and good for the company definitely I think the purpose here for the companies is to incorporate the app Nanshi into their CSR initiatives

to forge a safer and more inclusive workplace. Because I think we all in our professional life have been witnesses, arrestment, and I'm sure you did as well, directly or indirectly. Yeah, I mean, sometimes i've been at clubs or something you'll see some stuff go down i'm seeing on tiktok a lot of videos you know fights and different things going on yeah so i think you know like it's it's a big topic now you know like for you know like i think we everyone knows you know like it's existing but it just you know like swaps under the carpet you know and i think until now you know like we didn't have any tools you know like to fade that and i think you

know like namshi is the revolution you know like for that so now you know like you can offer you know like to the company you know like this up you know, you know, like to prevent and tackle, you know, like all forms of workplace harassment. So I think, you know, like to fade that because, you know, like I think Eric, as he said, you know, like as a belief and me as an attorney, you know, like we, we were, you know, like very close to, you know, like to these people and at workplace or not, but everybody is facing harassment and especially

at work. And if you look at the statistic, it's just crazy. Apparently, one in five individuals confront workplace harassment. It's huge. Wow.

When you have large companies, you know, 100,000 employees, 30,000, 40,000, 50,000 employees, I think there's some companies that are larger than that. I mean, there's a lot of things that can happen in them. I know a lot of bigger companies

like Google and them deal with harassment and sexual harassment and stuff like that all the time. So how does it utilize the blockchain? Why is it important to have the blockchain technology in there? And what makes that so important in utilizing that? Why? Because I told you at the beginning,

blockchain process will keep the proof intact. Nobody can use it, Nobody can change it. It's locked in. It's erasable. Exactly. So it's not a possibility to change anything. And it's organized in many countries now

as a proof. Real proof in front of the court. For example, in California, in New York, in Florida also, and most now of the states accept blockchain as a proof because the technique also be a technique things it's since now more

than 12 years blockchain existing nobody can hack it or change anything because it is how the blockchain works you don't send the files into the blockchain. You send, like we say, the hash code and hash code is like your own DNA of your files. So in a DNA, by fact, you cannot recreate

it because it's only one word. It's like your own DNA in your blood. So that's why when we don't when we use blockchain we don't also disclose anything because we we send only the hash code of the files so we don't the pictures we don't keep anything personal in blockchain so this is this is a huge thing with the blockchain. And also it's very easy and very easy, I mean easy for a user, not for us, but for a user it's easy to use

because they don't think about it. They take a picture, then it's blockchain at seconds. They don't have to see how it works. I don't have to say, yes, I want a blockchain or everything is blockchain. By default, at seconds, you take a video after the video charge and send to the cloud, it's blockchain and saved. So if someone take your phone now and you want to break it,

you don't care. You broke it? Okay. But after, you can go to the code because you have in the cloud, you have access to your files. There you go. I like the concept of that where it saves it permanently probably gives it some semblance of privacy as well

and all that good stuff so do you guys work directly b2b with this do you go to companies and say hey you know use our product or you guys just have it on the on the app stores and you're waiting for people to pick it up, utilize it in companies. What's your reach out to different things for that on your consumer base? Jolene? Yeah, it's just, you know, like to speak, you know,

like with the companies, you know, like themselves and to offer them, you know, like this because it's an elite strategy against, you know, like workplace harassment. And also the good things we can provide it in a wide brand. So I mean

we can brand directly for each company. As you say 10,000, even if you have 5,000 or even 100. In France we have the example of a company with only 100 salary. But there is harassment. Even in little companies because harassment In France, we have the example of a company who only wanted to do a salary, but there is harassment, even in little companies,

because harassment, since 30 years now, everybody talks about harassment at work or sexual harassment. And after all the advertising, government, subvention, UN, nothing changed because there is no tools because it's very difficult to get the proof. And with Nancy, one of the good things, you can get the proof yourself, or

if you have a colleague at work, she can help you to help you. And also the things if you deploy as a CEO of a company, Nancy into your company, so our, the people who want to arrest knows now he can be trapped.

And maybe it's like your disuasive. I don't know if it's English or not. So if you want to use, if you want to arrest someone, you know, ah, there is Nancy in my company. So maybe I will be, I will be kept by anybody in the company.

So I will put myself in danger because I will be fired. I will be get some not a good notes from, from my, from my employer. So it's, you know, we reverse because let me just give you one one one data in france for example when a woman is harassed 65 percent of time she she gave up his own job she she left she left because she so it's it's incredible so you are arrested and you have to leave Parce que, c'est incroyable, vous êtes harassé, et vous devez partir. Donc ce que nous voulons, et ce que nous suggérons, c'est que si vous utilisez Nanshi dans votre entreprise, les gens veulent être plus... La province est une région historique et culturelle, ainsi qu'un ancien

Etat indépendant, plus associé à la France. Dites-moi si vous voulez... Il est sérieux, désolé. Quelqu'un est en train de se faire harasser. Somebody is getting harassed right now. It would put less pressure to Siri. You know, it's crazy. There you go. Well, this is going to be amazing because I know there's a lot of problems with this across nations

and companies and everything else. So give us the dot coms where people can see you guys, check out the app and all that good stuff. Yeah. Nancy.com is a double E at the end and we will launch maybe Wednesday or Thursday. Okay. Yeah.

Just before the TES. Yeah. There you go. So there'll be a new website up for it. Well, thank you both for you both coming on the show. We really appreciate it. Thank you very much,

Chris, for your welcome. Thank you. And, Chris, for your welcome. Thank you. And happy New Year again. Happy New Year again. Those of you who are listening, we just clocked January 1st, 2024. We have an audience sometimes that watches this five to ten years later on

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