The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Running the Light: A Novel by Sam Tallent

Episode Date: March 16, 2025

Running the Light: A Novel by Sam Tallent Amazon.com Samtallent.com A bona fide “instant classic” (Doug Stanhope) novel that tells the story of a road comic crashing and burning by acclaimed comedian Sam Tallent Billy Ray Schafer stepped off the plane in Amarillo, Texas, with twenty-six hundred dollars tucked down the leg of his black ostrich-skin cowboy boot. He walked to baggage claim slowly, jelly-legged and nearing lucidity, coming out from under the Xanax he snorted before the flight. Debauched, divorced, and courting death, Billy Ray Schafer is a comedian who has forgotten how to laugh. Over the course of seven spun-out days across the American Southwest, he travels from hell gig to hell gig in search of a reason to keep living in this bleak and violent glimpse into the psyche of a thoroughly ruined man. Ex-inmate, ex-husband, ex-father—comedian is the only title Schafer has left. Trapped in the wreckage of his wasted career, Billy Ray knows the answer to the question: What happens when opportunity doesn't come—or worse—it comes and goes? “In vivid, electric sentences that read like cinematic tracking shots,” (Denver Post) Tallent hurls you into an absolute mess of a man’s life as we search for the mercy he does not want. About the author Sam Tallent is a comedian. For the last decade he has performed more than 45 weekends per year across America, Canada, Europe, Japan and Australia. His writing has appeared in Birdy Magazine and on VICE.com. Running the Light, his first novel, is soon to be a major motion picture. He lives in Colorado and cooks dinner for his wife every night.

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One on the TikTokity, and all those crazy places on the internet you can find. As always, the funnest people on the show. And we're going to get some laughs today. We've got a great comedian on. His newest book is out. It's called Running the Light by Sam Talent and actually comes out March 25th, 2025. It's close enough, right? You can pre-order the book. Sam, welcome to the show. How are you? Sam Talent Chris Voss, thank you for having me. Chris Voss Thanks for coming. Sam Talent Congrats on your long, long time success.

Yeah, it's all community service, a judge appointed. I'm just glad that you got away with the crime and you could do the time as well. Yes. Do the time if you can do the crime, or one of those two. Where are you? In Utah, actually.

Where are you? I'm in Detroit. Isn't this fun that we don't have to be where they said yeah, where they said we had to be yeah, cuz Detroit's cold as fuck. So yeah, you to Utah's Utah's kind of like Colorado You guys have a lot of sunshine. Yeah a lot of snow too Give me your dot-coms where you want people to find you on the interwebs Sam talent.com T-a-l-l-e-n-t.com. Yes, so give us a 30,000 over you, what's inside your new book? This book, I published it in 2020 and as COVID hit and I didn't have any dates for standup, I do standup comedy is what I do.

When COVID hit, all my dates evaporated. So I had this novel that I was shopping around and I put it out myself. I self-published it and now four years later after it sold a lot of, you know, unheralded success is what I like to call it. And I like, you know, it sold a bunch of copies and now Random House picked it up and they're reissuing it in trade paperback in all available bookstores nationwide and in Canada. Pete Slauson And Canada too! Along with some, do they tariff it? I'm just kidding. I don't know, I think they print it up there.

I like Canada. I don't know, I feel like you might be anti Canada, but I'm gonna say I like Canada. It's January, 2025 and I make that note for that joke because people watch YouTube for, they've been watching our YouTubes for 18 years. So they watch 10 years from now and they're like, what is he talking about? But no, I'm pro-Canada. I love Canada.

I'll be brave. I'll say it. I think Canada's good. I love Canada. I'm a big Rush fan. I'm a big Second City comedy fan. Yeah, Rush. I'm a huge Rush fan. Dude, do you like, do you like The Who? I love The Who, yeah. Okay, who's a better drummer though? Or Keith Moon?

You gotta give it to Keith Moon. Yes you do. Is it Keith Moon or is it Bongo? Yeah. From Led Zeppelin. Bonham's Led Zeppelin, Keith Moon's the Who. I can't remember which one's the better one. Keith Moon's the best one of all time.

Out of all of them. I think I would agree with you, he was fucking crazy. He didn't have a hi-hat, he went mental back there. I think I would agree with you. He was fucking crazy. He didn't have a high hat. He went mental back there. Yeah. I think you're right. I think that's the... There's one that Neil Peart said is the best and it was either the Led Zeppelin guy or Keith Moon. Can't see that Neil character who loved following all the rules behind the drum kit, having much enthusiasm for Keith Moon's anarchy back there. Oh yeah. Keith Moon was, he was insane. I

just watched something on him a little while ago. Pete Slauson He was unwell. He drove a car into a pool. Pete Slauson Yeah, he was, it might have been the drugs, but no, I think they said he might have been on the spectrum. Pete Slauson Oh, I think he was kooky, man. I think the term, that was the term back then. He was whacked out. Pete Slauson He was whacked out. Pete Slauson Yeah, he was crazed.

So give us a rundown of what's inside the book. Tell us about the characters and what brought the... There's about 65,000 words. Most of them are different. And I've arranged them in an order that will both elicit laughter and a heavy heart. It's about... I'm sorry, dude. I just woke up. and a heavy heart. It's about, I'm sorry, dude, I just woke up. It's about an old road dog who's tortured by drug addiction and alcohol addiction. I say, what's the difference? I think alcohol is a drug, but hey, science hasn't caught up with that. And yeah, and he's on the road for seven days in the Southwest and he's just getting blasted and like having three ways in bathrooms. Pete Slauson Oh, that's unfortunate. That sounds suffering. Jared Slauson But luckily, it's, you know, there's a baby changing table involved, but no baby.

I want to be, I want to be explicit in that they're all adults. It's probably one of them might be wearing a diaper anyway. He, he, uh, he has to kind of confront his, his past and it's bleak and it's, it's, it's not illusory. Someone described it as illusory, which means as an illusion. And I think it's the most real fucking thing there is. So yeah, if you want a book that has a couple laughs and then just a real stark look at a truly broken man, this is the novel for you. It's a male beach read, Chris.

It's a male beach read. That's a first, because we have a lot of beach read novelists on the show and they're mostly made for the... They're really, I bet it's fun to make fun of those people and then realize they live in a helicopter, you know? Like, they're so rich. Who cares? Yeah, they're in their ivory tower that they've erected. Pete Slauson So, what on the character basis of the people in it? Is there any little bit of your journey through stand-up comedy in this? Or maybe some of the people you ran into that you built into the character?

Matthew 11 Oh, yeah. I mean, I started doing standup in 2006 in Denver, Colorado, and we were all over the mountain states. Like, we had that whole territory. I was on the road very early with people who would show up to the gig and share it in Wyoming. And the first thing they would do would be to walk into the kitchen and ask for cocaine. And then, and then so they spend their whole check on cocaine, which means then, you know, you're, you're opening, you're featuring, you're making a hundred dollars. And yes, you're splitting gas because that's what comics do. It doesn't matter. The headliner is making $500. Of

course I'll split gas. But then their, their money's gone because they, you know, there was, God forbid, there's a Keno machine in the bar Yeah, so it was just there was a lot of men and women that I had the pleasure of opening for who have amalgamated into this book There's there's definitely touches of Ron White Stanhope and then just a bunch of people who died at a rest stop a bunch of people who died at a rest stop. It's gnarly. People are like, your book's so funny. And I'm like, I think it's a horror story. It was easy to write because it was everything I was afraid of turning into. Wow.

Yeah, man. And so that's kind of an interesting component where you were afraid of turning into it. Were you... I mean, I've lived in Vegas for, what is it, 20, 25 years now. And so, I dealt with a lot of addiction. I've seen the people that, like you're talking about, it goes up their nose, they lose it in gambling. They always have, you know, they're like, I have a system of gambling. You don't understand.

I have a system and it works. And they're like, how come you always want to borrow money from me? It's part of the system. That's pretty much the crux of the system, is to spend someone else's money on the felt. That explains what's going on here. I just figured it out. Big part of the system is making sure you send money to your secret family and perrump once a month.

I lived in Vegas for two years, man. It was gnarly. Oh yeah. You got to be careful dating too. Like I've had friends that have dated chicks that are addicts, gambling addicts. And, and, you know, one day there was like, Chris, she got a hold of my checking account, cleaned out my bank account and my credit cards. And I'm like, dude, you're, I told you to get away from, you got to avoid those.

You got to avoid certain people in Vegas. Otherwise you're just loaneraning money like all the time. And, and if they come over to your house, you're like, Hey, does anybody see my statue? Yeah. Where's my laptop? There's a lot of crafty operators in Las Vegas and it's very easy to walk in and be fleeced like the Rube.

You hope you aren't. Yeah. I, I had a guy come over that I didn't know had a heroin addiction. He seemed like a nice guy and they always do. They're very sleepy. They're very do't. Yeah. I had a guy come over that I didn't know had a heroin addiction. He seemed like a nice guy and- They always do. They're very sleepy. They're very docile. Yeah. My CD, my DVD player disappeared. It was this thin little DVD player on a stack of components. I was like, wait, where did my DVD player go? How else was he supposed to watch all those just shoot DVDs? The DVDs? Yeah.

Plus he went and this is about, yeah, he went and I guess he pawned it for some heroin or something. Hey, is there anything else better to pawn it for? Yeah, I mean, not really, I guess. I don't know. I mean, if you're going to go into your friend's house and rob him, you better be getting heroin with the fruits of that labor. I'm going to be getting something, yeah, for my shit.

At least the copper wire remained in your walls. That's big. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. It's always that copper wire. In fact, after I moved to California for a few years, the owner was supposed to come pick up the key and they'd given me such a hard time.

They're like, are you moved yet? Are you moved yet? I'm like, I'm moving, but we said the end of the month, so we're fine. Calm the fuck down. And so I left the key in the power box and I guess a bunch of squads, this is during the squatter era where we were still in the 2008, 2011, 2010 crisis of squatters everywhere. Oh, I know. I squatted a couple of times myself. Oh, did you really? Oh yeah.

I squatted this morning after some coffee. Watch out. Watch out, watch out, boss man. Yeah. And yeah, they came in and so the squatter saw all the garbage out front, because I'd moved and I guess they either found the key in the power box or what they would do back then, because this is back when Vegas was like a ghost town after 2008 crisis. And they, what they do is run a wire over the top of the garage door and they'd find the, find the red emergency pole. Oh yeah. They pull it and they have access to the house. So they got in the house and yeah, they took the, they took the, what was it? They took the water heater and the oven and a few other things, but yeah, they took the water heater probably for the,

and I was like, why would someone steal water heater? And they go, I think they were training for a strong man competition. Yeah, probably that too. Yeah. I never heard of anybody stealing a water here and they're like, yeah, it has copper in it, Chris. And I'm like, Oh, whatever. But they squatted in the house for the idiot owners said, you know, give me a hard time to get the key. And then when I finally told them there's the key, they waited two weeks to go up there.

In the meantime, this guy squatted the house and they stripped everything of copper and shit. And like, that sounds bad, but imagine how great that two weeks was for that desperate drug addict. Oh yeah. That had to be, he was living high on the hog. He didn't even send me a Christmas card, God damn it. Wow. See? This is not, this was living high on the hog. He didn't even send me a Christmas card. God damn it. Wow.

See, this is not, this is not those crackheads. Anyway, so tell us about, how did you get into comedy? How did you grow up? You know, medians are sometimes, uh, you know, they're, they're solving some issues from childhood and stuff. Did you grow up with any trauma? Did you grow up with any, you know, a lot, a lot of comedians seem to have, you know, they kind of, they're, you know, they're solving problems from their past.

Did you have any of that? How did you grow up? No, I think that that's like a very romantic notion that comedians put upon the audience because they want to, I think a lot of comics feel bad for the fact that they work two hours a day and make way too much money. So they're like, no, someone touched me at a bus station. And they're like, yeah, but you had an eyelash on your cheek. He was trying to be helpful.

I had zero trauma. I mean, my dad liked a couple cold ones, you know? But hey, it was rural Colorado in the early 90s. He wasn't cracking a red dog when they were picking their kids up from school. That's true. Yeah. You get a tall boy, you know? And, you know, my mom, she had some polarity issues, but I think that

I got way too much love. I think everyone was just like, hey, you're the funniest little kid, look how fat you are. My God, he's so entertaining. And then I think that I've been trying to like fill up this giant jug of love that they gave me at an early age. So if anything, I had it, I was just, I was touched by too many angels. Pete Oh, well, that's unfortunate, man. Pete I know. Hey, those angels have curious fingers, you know? Pete Do they really? Pete I don't know. I was never molested. I want to go on record. But if I was, I'd probably have a Netflix special. So, the grass is always greener.

Pete Yeah. Pete No, dude, I had no trauma. I apologize. Pete Oh, that's unfortunate. So, is that the whole journey then? That's... Yeah, pretty much. It's like climatic in this way. There's no... Yeah, I was, I lived in, I grew up in a town of 700 people on the eastern plains of Colorado. I was heavily involved in sports and, you know, my civic duty as a young student, I was... I mean, I think maybe hallucinogens helped me want to become creative in that

way because the first time I took acid, I was at a rodeo when I was 13 years old. I knew my life was going to change forever when that clown brought me in his barrel. Anyway, so yeah, no, I had a fun time on the plains just being a little boy and growing up and I moved to Denver and started stand up when I was 18 and it's been fruitful, I'm very grateful for it. Yeah. Well, that's awesome. That's unfortunate that you weren't scarred more as a child and that's what you did.

It'd be better for the clip of the show. Yeah. You could put like, you know, Sam Talent grew up in a spider cage and cigarettes were being put out on him all the time. That'd be better for the one minute engagement. Pete Slauson You were deacon at some church. Anyway, I'm… Pete Slauson We had a lot of those guys. Pete Slauson Did you?

Pete Slauson A lot of Mormons where I grew up. Pete Slauson Oh, yeah. Mormons will do it too. Yeah. Pete Slauson I'm pro Mormon, dude. They're fun. Pete Slauson Pro Mormon? Pete Slauson Yeah. Here's the thing about the Mormon churches in Colorado is all of the churches have a carpeted basketball court in the basement. Pete Slauson Carpeted? Pete Slauson Yeah, man. So, when you're a little fat 11-year-old

boy and you're bouncing on carpet, it's like you feel like Jumpman. It's like you're Jordan, you know? Pete Slauson Okay. Pete Slauson Yeah. So, I mean, the Mormons I knew were fun, and boy, when their daughters became 15 years old, all bets were off. Pete Slauson All bets were off. Pete Slauson Yeah. Pete Slauson This sounds like my experience in Utah.

Pete Slauson You know about it. Pete Slauson Yeah. Yeah. I think about 50% of the women we dated had someone to touch them. Pete Slauson Well, I'm not saying the Mormons were touching the kids. I'm just saying that their daughter were very curious to the ways of the English. Pete Slauson The ways of the English. Pete Liesvelder The ways of the English. The ways of the thing. Any future novels coming out? Anything else you're working on? Maybe

taking maybe some of the characters into another book or how you doing there? Pete Liesvelder No, no. I don't want to write this guy anymore. He haunts me. But yeah. Pete Liesvelder You have a book on it that haunts you for the rest of your life. Pete Liesvelder Yeah, I mean, I put all my great fears into one novel. Pete Liesveld. Yeah. I mean, I put all my great fears into one novel. Yeah, but no, so Random House, they bought this book and then they also bought my next novel and

I have to have it done by July 1st. And it's about a homosexual hit man in Paris doing one last job. One last hit job or one last blow job? I hope that he gets at least one more mouth copulation on his way out. Pete Slauson Oh! Pete Slauson What? Pete Slauson Mouth copulation? Pete Slauson He said I couldn't swear. Pete Slauson Yeah, but I mean, yeah, okay. It's like having Einstein on the show with you, a mouth copulation. I don't even know what that was.

Pete Slauson It's so funny when you do a clean show and they're like, okay, you can't say blowjob. So then you're like, and then I ejaculated in her mouth and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And you're like, I didn't say the phrase. It's a clever work around. I use my vocabulary. Yeah. And they're like, you should have just said blowjob. That would have been less horrific. That wouldn't have haunted us at night when we go to shut our eyes. But yeah, it's, I want my next book to just be like, I really want it to be an explosive success so that I, I don't know, not work 50 weekends a year doing standup anymore. How is standup these days for the business end of it, for, you know, making money and

surviving and stuff? Are there too many comedians out there or are there not enough? There's probably enough. I don't think anyone's clamoring for more stand. I think more, you think more teachers and nurses would probably be more beneficial. We need more nurses, that's for sure. Yeah, they should make every stand up after 10 years, do 10 minutes in front of an independent audit. And if more than 50% of the room doesn't laugh, then they should just get a teaching certificate. I think that should be

helpful. Teaching certificate. Yeah. I mean, at least the kids will be entertained. You'd think so, but you know, the kids are. Yeah, you know, the kids. I think that right now it seems to be a bit of a, I'm making a lot of hay while the sun shines, but it's not what you make, it's what you save. As the great Chris Benoit said. So yeah, he was very fiscally conservative. He was a bit more adventurous in his other walks of life.

But yeah, so I think that stand-ups in a very good place and it's so big that it's more boutique. So you can find the exact kind of stand-up that suits your needs. Whereas like when I was a boy watching stand-up, it was just whatever was on the Comedy Central half hours and then Letterman and Conan. Like it was a lot smaller

and you didn't have the internet yet. But now that the internet's out there, like you can find like the exact kind of person that represents your sense of humor and then you can also get on there and if someone doesn't make you laugh, you can call them, you know, a fat homosexual as much as you want. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you should go to my YouTube everyone, Sam Tallin on YouTube and check the comments. A lot of nice creative things being said in there. Yeah, I'm used to that after 18 years. Oh sure, yeah.

There's just a thousand chimps with a thousand typewriters and a lot of the typewriters have five letters worn out. And it's usually sticky because they can't find women. They love to masturbate, yeah. Yeah, I've been on YouTube for 18 years. I love when they write me and they go, because a lot of my videos I don't show up in because I have radio face, as you can tell.

I think you're quite handsome. I think that shirt fits you well. Don't come on to me, buddy. You're not my type. What if I was? Wouldn't that be crazy? If you were sitting there just staring through your screen, completely enamored and rock hard at me, if I unlocked the door to you that you didn't know you had. I didn't say I'm not rock hard, right? Well, hey, I don't know who's sponsoring the show, but that supplement's working. Yeah. By the way, folks, tune into Viagra, available to sponsor the show. Anyway. Hey, the Chris Voss Show brought to you by Rhino Horn, everyone. It's tough to get for a reason.

It's illegal for a reason. It sounds like that Panther cologne from Anchorman. Oh, yeah. It works. 60% of the time, it works 100% of the time or something. Dude, you know what I miss is the days when you could just quote Anchorman in old school and everyone thought you were the funniest person alive. Now I have to come up with my own content. But in high school, you'd say, you're my boy blue and women would throw their panties at you. Really?

No, of course not. They would. I worked at the laundry. So I was pushing the cart down the halls. I see what you said up there. Got to love it, Sam. Anything in the future you want to plug? Any future dates of appearances as you two are about?

Oh yeah. Yeah. You know what? People want them on your website? Yeah. The website, samtalent.com. You can pre-order the book, that'd be huge. And also I have a cool travel show on YouTube called Sam Talents Wide World.

We've done Japan, we've done Paris, and now we're doing Eastern Colorado. Watch that if you enjoy humorous travel content. I've got your, I'm going to subscribe to your channel, Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast? No, that's my special. My special is on Matt and Shane. Shout out Shane Gillis, Matt McCusker for platforming me. But Sam Talent on YouTube is the channel. That's what all the kids are talking about, the Sam Talent channel. Oh, the kids love that too. Do you have like huge markets that you know about specifically where I could plug dates?

Just the US market is our biggest market and then we're... Oh man. So if you wanna... You plug dates, I mean, I see... Cleveland, Ohio this weekend. Portland, Oregon coming up. We've got Toledo, Ohio. I'm doing Cleveland and Toledo back-to-back weekends. Those are for sure separate markets. That's great booking. And then Omaha, Iowa City, hell, I'm going to Europe. I'm going to Australia. SamTalent.com. We had a comedian on- Named names.

I'd have to pull it up. I'm horrible with names. I'm great at faces. I'll try and find it here. But he evidently has a really good comedy market down there in Australia. Oh, it's huge, dude. It rules. They're like us. I feel like we really control their idea of what standup is still. And yeah, they're just like the best comedy crowds. They don't get mad about anything. They know how to drink without throwing a bottle at your head. They're fun people. I have to figure out who that was. Was it Eddie Ift? It was Clay McMath. Pete Slauson See, that's a comic I've never heard of before.

Pete Slauson Yeah. And he's, I think he goes up in England, I think he comes to the States, but I believe he's based, he's based in Adelaide, South Australia. Pete Slauson Dude, love it down there. Pete Slauson And he was telling me they got quite the circuit down there in Australia. Pete Slauson You know, Adelaide's fun, it's the only free city down there. It he was telling me they got quite the circuit down there in Australia. You know, Adelaide's fun. It's the only free city down there.

It wasn't founded by prisoners. So it was founded by the church. So they have this complete different culture down there and their own weird accent in Adelaide. They talk like this. Yeah. So it's like Mary Poppins down there. Yeah. I like, I always give our Australian guests that come on the show a bad time about the

chlamydia koalas It's just hilarious Yeah, I mean, can you blame them? They're cute as a they're cute as a button Yeah, but I mean they're giving it to each other and fucking all the time If you can hear him fucking in trees and yeah They they really raise hell up in the canopy layer and also like when you hold a koala They have a sex gland on their chest that secretes pheromones. So every picture you see of someone holding that koala side saddle on their hip, they

have to then throw their shirt away because it smells like pure marsupial sex once you get done holding that koala. Oh, that's actually the perfume I wear. Hey, you know, 40% of the time it works, 20% of the time. 110%. Yeah. And if it works on 20% of the time. 110%. Yeah. And if it works on that lady, you know she's a freak. She's down for whatever.

If she's like, ooh, what's that smell? And you're like raw koala pheromone. I'm going to spray that on me next time I go down to Sparrow Rhino. Not like they need any more encouragement. Anyway. They really are just like birds to a feeder, aren't they? Yeah. I've dated a couple. They're interesting in the bedroom.

Chris, you're dating dancers? Hmm? You date dancers? I've dated strippers. I used to own a modeling agency, so I've dated quite a few different women. Oh yeah. Didn't Epstein come on as a client? I didn't know him. We tried to stick to 18 and older. That was kind of our, we're kind of legal that way.

Hey, I get it, man. It's tough. It's tough. It's either that or you hang yourself in prison cells. Allegedly. Allegedly, yeah, that's true. There's that video of that guy flew a drone over Epstein Island and there was just a dude on the island who looked exactly like Jeffrey Epstein after he died and everyone, well,

this is not noteworthy. We don't need to worry about this. Pete Slauson We don't need to worry about this. Jared Liesveld Yeah. Pete Slauson Yeah. Pete Slauson I don't know. We'll ask Hillary Clinton what's up there. Anyway… Jared Liesveld I'd like to ask Donald Trump how much fun it was to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein. Pete Slauson I love how they issue stuff about Epstein from the admin now that just came into power. But I haven't seen anything about Donald Trump's hanging out with Epstein yet, so it's kind of interesting how that works.

Yeah, it's crazy because there are all those pictures of them hanging out all the time. Yeah, he was there. So as we go out, give us the final pitch for people who ordered the book, see you on your tour dates, et cetera, et cetera. Hey, I bet you've got $18. My book is $18. So why don't you spend it on a book for once instead of one tall coffee item and a tin of zins by my book. You know what it really impresses a potential lover? Let's say you're bringing over one of the many dancers that you entertain in your boudoir, Chris.

Chris McPherson Boudoir, yeah. Pete Slauson Yeah, you've got that. Chris McPherson I know you're doing well, you know. Pete Slauson Yeah. Chris McPherson Every man of means has a boudoir. Pete Slauson Yeah. Chris McPherson You call it your sex cabin, but I call it a boudoir. But yeah, imagine, you sex cabin, but I call it a boudoir

But yeah, imagine, you know, they come into your bedroom. You're wearing silk You're laying on the bed smoking a cigar on the bedside table There's a coke mirror and also a copy of my novel They're gonna be so impressed by one of those things both maybe yeah No, my book is really good. Shane Gillis loves it. Stan Hope Ron white mark Maron. Everyone loves it You should buy it if you like comedy at all or even if he's like books and see that it's a good book, too good. Shane Gillis loves it. Stan Hope, Ron White, Mark Maron, everyone loves it. You should buy it if you like comedy at all or even if you like books, it's a good book too. And then come see me live because everyone else is. Don't you want to fit in? Do you

want to play a loser next time Sam Talon comes to town? Don't have a phone. I'll be in Salt Lake City by the way at Wise Guys in August. Oh really? I'll have to come check you out. Chris, you better come down, brother. I'm used, I spend my time between here and Vegas, so if you're up here, I've got a few friends that do Wise Guys that are local. Who do you know?

There's Patrick, I'd have to go look him up, man. I'm horrible. So they're still good friends? Yeah, they're good friends. I'm really bad with names and really good with faces, but they're not that close. You're going to forget my name, but you'll never forget this face, Chris. Chris I won't, Bob. I won't. Pete Slauson Look, I look like the moon.

Chris You look like the moon? Pete Slauson Yeah, I look like a drawing of the wind. I'm on this fat guy medicine, Chris. I'm on mangiaro and I'm just gonna have... Chris Mangiaro? Pete Slauson Yeah, the medicine had to sound like Italian food or I wouldn't take it, but I'm on mangiaro and I'm just gonna have yeah medicine had to sound like Italian food, or I wouldn't take it But I'm I'm on Monjaro, and I'm wasting away Oh, that's an I hate you then cuz I'm I tried to get on one of those one of those weight loss pills And didn't work. I actually gained 10 pounds

He gained weight off the fat guy meds Chris Well, you gotta quit hiding them in cheese Yeah You gained weight off the fat guy meds, Chris? That sucks. Well, you got to quit hiding them in cheese. Yeah. Is that the problem? Chris, if you want to talk to a very competent weight loss medicine doctor, I got one. I got all my fat friends on this medicine and we're all just dropping LBs and our skin is like giant kites. Yeah.

You're getting the, what do they call that? The neck? Jowl? The face. They call it ozempic face, I think they call it, because your face starts to sag. Pete Slauson Yeah. Pete Slauson I lost so much weight intermittent fasting,

and I started getting this little gobbly gook down here. Pete Slauson Yeah, that's a slur, Chris. Pete Slauson I did the intermittent fasting and it worked while I was doing it, but then as soon as I quit doing it, my God, it flooded back. Pete Slauson Yeah, what a rip. Anyway, thank you very much for coming to the show. You say what a rib? What a rip. Oh, rip. Nice. Yeah.

I'm from Gen X. I thought you were using wrestling lingo and I was excited for a minute. All right. Do you have art on? Sam? The medicine has so many side effects, Chris. Oh, I still do. All right. Thank you very much, Sam, for coming to the show. We really appreciate it. Thank you for having me, samtalent.com. Running the light, Chubby Behaviors is my podcast, Sam Talent on YouTube. What's not to love?

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