The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Snap Spectacles 3, Tumblr, Youtube & News Aug 14, 2019

Episode Date: August 14, 2019

Snap Spectacles 3, Tumblr, Youtube & News Aug 14, 2019...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi folks, Chris Voss here from thechrisvossshow.com, thechrisvossshow.com. Hey, we're coming to you with another great podcast. Certainly appreciate you guys tuning in. We're going to be talking today, we don't have any guests, but we're going to be talking today about business tech and news, things of that nature, and some of the things that I find interesting and my take on it as well. Be sure to subscribe to The Chris Voss Show if you don't already. I know you do because you're so smart.
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Starting point is 00:00:54 pool boys, you know. Just dare it when you're away at work so the dogs and the cockroaches have something to listen to. There you go. Whatever. Anyway, guys, let's get into the meat of what we're doing today and talking about um i got a chance to spend some more time looking at the spectacles 3 from snap the new version that's coming out where they're releasing it it's got two different cameras so it can kind
Starting point is 00:01:17 of give you that thing of the iphone people have been posting on facebook where the there's a little bit of motion in the picture. Uh, so you've got to have some two angles on it. It evidently has AR features. And I was talking about this when I saw the announcement, I was wondering if their AR team, which I think is about a hundred developers or a hundred people or something, um, was going to develop AR stuff for it. So evidently there is AR stuff for the, uh, spectacles, uh, three. 3. It's going to be handled in post, though. So I don't know if that's officially AR. I guess it is.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Maybe. I don't know. But basically, you record your video, and then in post, you overlay stuff on top of it, which is more of an overlay than an AR. But to me, AR is, is augmented reality. In reality, you're looking through the camera, seeing, uh, seeing the augmented reality, your reality augmented. But if you're doing it post-haste, that's just fucking editing as far as I'm concerned. Like I edit my photos and most photographers do in Lightroom or Adobe or something like that. That's not really AR when we
Starting point is 00:02:25 do that. That's just fucking post editing. That's not, so I don't know, man, it's, it's a lot of money for a set of glasses that are, um, 10 ADP. I'd still almost rather just, you know, throw up a couple extra hundred bucks and get the GoPro. Um, I love my GoPros. I'll admit to that, but, uh, you know, you can check them out. Spectacles three, they're going to be coming out in November. I kind of like the look of them. I'd like to get ahold of some for free, just a review in it. Hint, hint, if you're listening anywhere from snap, uh, but it's got 3d shots, basically. I don't, I don't know how officially 3d it is, but because of the two cameras on either side of the spectacles,
Starting point is 00:03:05 it creates a sort of 3D-ish effect that's interesting. But, you know, I have an ad after in the app. I don't know about that. So it's up to you to check that out. Some of the other things we usually cover on the Chris Voss Show podcast, we look at ProductHunt.com and see kind of what sticks out to us. There is a promoted campaign from Hotjar. I got to tell you, I'm interested in trying this on my website.
Starting point is 00:03:30 It basically shows heat maps of where people are really using your site. And it's got 7,637 upvotes. Now, obviously, they're buying ads and promoting themselves on Product Hunt. But still, it seems like it's fairly popular um and uh could be pretty useful some other things i thought that were kind of interesting something called qr zebra it's a qr code that shows a different url based on where you scan it so i'm guessing that's geolocation sort of based so if i'm in one state and i scan something somewhere it knows where i'm at using the geolocation sort of based. So if I'm in one state and I scan something somewhere,
Starting point is 00:04:06 it knows where I'm at using the geolocation. Yep, it's geotagged. And it can send you to one single place or different URLs, depending on your city or country level. So how about that? That's kind of interesting. Evidently, China is moving away from QR codes. They are moving towards their facial recognition software.
Starting point is 00:04:27 That shit's going to be everywhere for their 1984 overlord social system. So I don't know. Do QR codes have a future? Let me know. You can ping me at LinkedIn, forward slash Chris Voss, or Twitter, forward slash Chris Voss, or Facebook, forward slash Chris Voss, or anyplace else, Chris Voss or Twitter forward slash Chris Voss or Facebook forward slash Chris Voss or any place else Chris Voss really um and uh let me know what you think are QR codes dead do you think this might bring them back do you think they can be saved I mean they're really big in Asia but like
Starting point is 00:04:56 I said China's moving may be killing the QR code because they're moving to facial recognition there's another uh app that's doing really well rt line it's a sketch to screen ar converter i guess those of you who are in the ar business and like making ar uh stuff i suppose this is the new thing uh back in the day when social media started everyone became a social media guru nowadays everyone's a podcast guru and uh for a while there was the other thing live video gurus that's kind of still a thing although that should be dying because youtube's killing everybody who isn't in the in the rich get richer top 10 percent of their their thing and even though i
Starting point is 00:05:36 think those people are going to die next um i think youtube is making a ton of money uh off of their tv and they're just gonna move to a TV channel fuck creators in the end that's what they've been doing for years now and so I think they're just gonna finally kill that off as the readership as a watchership dies but Jesus Christ they're charging 50 bucks now for YouTube live holy crap and then and I don't know it's really questionable how much worth it is at that point. But they've integrated services with a lot of their providers like MSNBC and channels to where they're actually setting them up on the back end with pre-recorded stuff so that it's ready to go for YouTube Live.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I'm not seeing that on channels like Sling or platforms like Sling and other ones. YouTube's doing quite some interesting background sort of setup and all that sort of good stuff. So you can check those out. They're on Product Hunt today. There's QR Zebra that I thought was kind of interesting and Artiline, Sketch to Screen AR Converter. So I guess what I was starting to go on my on that uh segue that i took and did uh i guess the new professionals in the future are gonna switch from being video online live
Starting point is 00:06:52 video professionals to um everyone's gonna be a fucking ar designer i'm already starting to see it on linkedin where people that i wouldn't pay to chew gum are uh working on ar design and stuff like that i'm just like great that's gonna be great so look forward to that in the future everyone's an ar fucking guru uh i'm gonna buy spectacles three so i can be an ar guru and stuff so there's that um and uh so let's get into some of the other different uh things, things, new stories that are kind of interesting me this morning. Uh, we work, this is kind of an interesting business.
Starting point is 00:07:29 This re we work company. I've been watching them for years now, buying up real estate and buying up commercial property, which has kind of been kind of, you know, I came from a brick and mortar world where, uh, you know, when you had to own companies or build companies or be an entrepreneur, you had to, you had to buy an office you had to buy furniture you had to buy phone lines and pay you know crazy freaking prices for your phone lines you had to you know pay expensive licenses corporation filings all that sort of good stuff now everyone just starts a business on the
Starting point is 00:08:02 internet and I don't even know if they find a business license half the time for half the crap they're doing uh and uh you don't have any of that overall cost of what it would cost i mean anytime we had to open an office or company or business or invest in something uh we had to take over their offices and you know you always had to have a secretary out front to babysit in case anyone showed up or answered the called the phone back then that's what they did they called the phone they didn't check your website so it's interesting to me that what we we work is doing because um it's kind of like the they're going back to the old world brick and mortar but they're offering it to people that live this uh laptop lifestyle if you will, or this sort of virtual lifestyle where they can at least go work in an office of a format,
Starting point is 00:08:50 and they just pay like a rental fee, and then you just show up, and I guess you use it when you need to, which I guess is pretty smart. They are working on their IPO, according to Axios, this morning. They are going to file to raise $1 billion, which is kind of interesting because they reported a $904 million net loss on $1.5 billion of revenue for the first half of 2019. So let me put that into terms for you math-wise. We're going gonna do some math on the Chris Foss show so they basically have in the first six months of 2019 brought in 1.5 billion dollars but they lost 904 of it so they basically kept like point six billion dollars now of course there's capital investments. There's times when you own a
Starting point is 00:09:46 company, you're investing in stuff, and these guys are buying a lot of buildings. So I remember one time we put in a bunch of investment to a dialer, and I think it was like 20 or 30 grand. And yeah, it wiped out our balance sheet for that month. But then the next two or three months, things skyrocketed as we saw the return on investment on that. So some of that is there, but it's kind of crazy. They're just raising a billion dollars and they're losing a billion dollars every six months. So, eh, may want to fix that bleed out.
Starting point is 00:10:19 So I don't know, man. I don't know. So we'll see how WeWork comes. What's your opinion on that? Let me know. The Guardian is reporting fingerprints of 1 million plus people and biometric info from a system used by banks, London police, and defense contractors
Starting point is 00:10:36 discovered on a politically, or I'm sorry, not politically, publicly accessible database, which probably can be downloaded for political purposes. Maybe Russia's working on that already. So there you go, man. Your fingerprints are out there, people. I really don't, I really pretty much am sure
Starting point is 00:10:54 the whole world knows my facial thing, so when facial banking comes in, they can steal my money. Fingerprints now, I guess, they can just steal my fingerprints, whatever. I don't even know if anybody has my fingerprints last time i got fingerprinted was uh was like 20 years ago or something i went in to pay a speeding ticket and i tried to pay with a check and they um and they wouldn't take the check even though i you normally you'd mail it in so i ended up getting booked for
Starting point is 00:11:22 the day and fingerprinted i think that was last time I was fingerprinted and uh it was like 25 40 years ago or some bloody thing uh that's when I learned never pay never show up to pay for a check but they'll take a check if you mail it in which is really weird seems like a lot of work um anyway so there you go your fingerprints are up there I should probably no actually i do have fingerprints with the fbi um for several years owning a mortgage company in both utah and nevada uh and a real estate license every year i had to go get fingerprinted by the fbi but what's fun is uh i had it done so often every year that i was pretty much on a fast track with the FBI. And then in Nevada, I had to pass an Interpol thing where if I had a felony in any place in the world with Interpol, it would endanger my license, my mortgage license with the state of Nevada. That and mafia ties, if I had any mafia ties, because that was really huge in the 90s in Nevada.
Starting point is 00:12:23 But that's probably a lot more information than you care to know. Segway. There we go. You get the interesting stories when you talk to Chris Voss. See what happens. So anyway, yeah. So I guess, I don't know, my fingerprints are in an FBI database. As soon as they get freaking hacked, then that'll be.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I'm sure Interpol probably isn't as secure as the FBI. So I'm sure that'll get hacked as well. Somebody will put my fingerprints, you know, they'll put my fingerprints in a murder scene. And I'll be like, oh, crap. I wasn't even in Indonesia. And now there's some murder there. I mean, whatever. So anyway, there you go.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I really would like to see laws passed that put people in jail that fail this sort of thing. And I, you know, if you're running security for a company and you fail this and it's your fault, well then you should go to jail. That's the way I feel about it. Cause this shit is not going to stop happening with these hacks and these leaks and everything that people are doing until people start going to jail
Starting point is 00:13:20 for violating people's privacy. Cause these companies just don't give a fuck. They just really fucking don't. And they may say they do, but the way they're all behaving, they just don't give a fuck. So either put your money where your mouth is or whatever. And when you get Equifax, what is it, Equifax that gets hacked and those guys are supposed to be the predictors of our credit data?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Those guys should be going to jail, freaking jail. Anyway, moving on. This is kind of interesting. We talked about this yesterday. Tumblr got sold to the automatic company, Matt Mullenweg's company, WordPress. So this is kind of interesting to see where it's going to go. There was an interview on The Verge that's kind of interesting you can check out. And they claim maybe this is going to really help blogging,
Starting point is 00:14:10 bring blogging back. Maybe it'll bring Tumblr back. Maybe it'll bring some competition to the sphere of social platforms. Maybe they'll figure out some special way to use Tumblr for promotion of your WordPress. So this is kind of interesting. I kind of get a giggle over
Starting point is 00:14:26 this stuff. Uh, when what's her face was running you Yahoo, everyone was like, she's going to save Yahoo. And really all she did was, uh, pretty much do. Um, she pretty much just bought as much stuff as she could at the highest price she could and wasted I think was like two or four billion dollars of cash they had laying around and just wasted on just shitty acquisitions so Yahoo had bought tumblr for 1.1 billion dollars in 2013 if you know the story uh that went they came out after they bought it the story was is uh tumblr was down to the last you know pocket change they were like fucking broke they were almost bankrupt day and yahoo like totally fucking overblew that purchase if they would have done i don't know
Starting point is 00:15:21 some more improper due diligence uh they would have known that don't know some more improper due diligence they would have known that Yahoo was broke and they probably could have bought it for the three million that WordPress just bought it for but yeah what a kicker so Yahoo sold itself to AOL which sold itself to Verizon and then Verizon decided that it should get out of the social business and stick with phones what a surprise and then um i guess taylor swift is still big on it as well so verizon it's rumored this is a rumor but it's they sold tumblr for three million dollars this week to uh automatic the company behind wordpress three million dollars so basically what's her face at Yahoo? She bought that thing for $1.1 billion.
Starting point is 00:16:11 How many $3 millions are in $1.1 billion? Let's see, that's a lot. That's a hell of a write-off. That's a hell of a, that's a hell of a write off. That's a hell of a fucking fall from grace. What do you do with that, man? I, I, wow. Talk about botching and investment. Um, so it's kind of interesting is there's a, there's a, there's a great podcast, uh, on verge on verge cast with Matt Mullenweg, the CEO of automatic. He's built WordPress. He's done a good job. It seems like a very smart guy. I met him one time, got to shake his hand. Um, is it real nice guy? Uh, and, uh, let's see, what are some other things, um, uh, to know about this
Starting point is 00:16:58 deal? There were some things he did. What's interesting is they're keeping all 200 employees. Uh, I thought that was interesting. He claims they're doing a Berkshire Hathaway approach where they're bringing over the management team and the employees, and they're interested in growing it. So they're not just taking Tumblr and throwing it into the drink. They're going to try and grow it,
Starting point is 00:17:18 get it active, breathe some new life into it. They're going to continue to stop porn, which is good because that site was way out of control with porn holy crap um they i mean you could just go on it and just be like holy crap are kids getting access to this crap this is insane um yeah i mean there's there's some sites that were just 100 porn uh let's see um so anyway they're gonna they're gonna they got some interesting plans for it they're gonna be interesting to see what they do with it they say they're gonna largely
Starting point is 00:17:50 try and not muck it up uh but they're gonna try and i guess influence to grow and become something maybe different or better i of course would like to see more competition in the field of uh social platforms i you know google Plus is dead now, so Facebook can just be the biggest asshole it wants and, you know, all you got is Instagram and something else after that. So, up in the news, Bloomberg, the FAA sent Airlines a reminder
Starting point is 00:18:19 to follow the 2016 safety instructions that banned goods with recalled batteries, which likely include MacBook Pros. So thanks, Apple. Got to love those battery fire risks of those old laptops. So you may want to keep that in mind next time you go to the airport. They might be looking at your Apple MacBook going, whatever. I'm sure Note 7s are banned, but I don't think anyone has any anymore.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Be really surprised. So that's kind of interesting, some of the news that's coming out of there. Let's see. We covered some of this yesterday. It looks like not a big news day today. The AT&T and T-Mobile started rolling out cross-network call authentication services to protect against spam and poof robocalls. This is by Engad gadget today uh i'm
Starting point is 00:19:06 hoping they're gonna take and do this without charging me because i'm gonna be really pissed if i'm getting charged like i i heard rumor they were gonna like maybe do apps for 2.99 a month you had to pay for to block your robocalls which i think is just bullshit uh i'm gonna be really angry if that's the case so So I'm hoping they do the right thing and, uh, they don't do that, um, sort of stuff. So yeah, there you go. Fun is fun. Uh, let's see, uh, boat setter. This is pretty interesting. They got a peer to peer for everything. In fact, my dating, I, my dating is a peer toer site as well. I don't know what that means. Boatsetter is a peer-to-peer boat rental marketplace.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It looks like they raised $10 million Series A extension, according to TechCrunch, led by Westcap Group and Valor Equity, bringing in a total of $31 million. So, yeah. so yeah so if you want a boat you can have a boat rental service or if you have a boat you can rent out your boat just like Airbnb
Starting point is 00:20:13 it's the Airbnb of boats there's the Airbnb of Chris Voss, Chris Voss rents out as a consultant you can hire him, use him. You can use them overnight if you want, if you're hot chick, I don't know. Somebody on my feed just wrote me. I didn't know Tumblr was still up and running. Hence the $3 million price, um, tag. I guess that's, uh, I guess that's what proves that. Um, so, uh,
Starting point is 00:20:48 what are you going to do there, man? Uh, I guess, uh, have fun with that. Is that, is that, that's pretty much where we're at when they, uh, thinking about the virtual reporting and interesting stuff called, uh, uh, evidently there was a crowdfunded phone of the future that turned out to be just a total scam. And I don't know how people get away with this. It's a story from The Verge about how a scammer ran a decade-long crowdfunding operation that raised $6 million on Indiegogo and from other investors to build an ambitious phone, tablet, laptop device. How do people get away with this for like a whole decade? This shit just kills me. Like the Theranos stuff where she got away with that for like,
Starting point is 00:21:32 what was it, 10, 15 years or some fucking thing? And $100 million plus. How do people get away with this shit? Like how? Like me just trying to get a few bucks out of some companies for promotion ad campaigns, things like that. It's stuff that we do. Sometimes it's like pulling teeth and yet people are throwing like 50 trillion fucking dollars at some scam phone thing for a decade.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Like how's it going for a decade? Like if I ever started ripping people off, I would expect like within six months to a year to be in jail or something. Right. Like how do you go a whole fucking decade? God damn. That's just fucking crazy. I just don't, I just don't, I just don't get it. What do I know? I'm Chris Voss. That's, that's what I know. So anyway, uh, that's some of the stuff we're talking about today. I got a chance to delve into, we talked about yesterday, got a chance to delve into the Spotify dashboard, the new thing that's out of beta. We talked about this, I believe, yesterday or the day before.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And I'm really impressed with what's there. And sadly, it doesn't have a compilation of all the different iTunes, Google Play, YouTube, all that sort of stuff. It doesn't have that all put together. But it does have pretty good details on what Spotify knows about itself. So let me see if I can find my way into the dashboard. Is it Spotify dashboard? They still need to work on this just a little bit so that you can get into it. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Spotify dashboard. So anyway, if you go into your Spotify dashboard, if you have a podcast on Spotify, you can go to developer.spotify.com forward slash dashboard, and you can get into your dashboard and manage Spotify. Actually, no, I guess I might be in the wrong area. I'm in an API section. This is Spotify for developers. Why did it give me this search thing?
Starting point is 00:23:39 Oh, my God, so misleading because I'm just clicking on anything. That's why. Spotify for podcasters. So I because I'm just clicking on anything. That's why. Spotify for podcasters. So I'm sorry. Let me correct that. Go to podcasters.spotify.com. You can actually add your podcast there if you want as well. But you can go into your dashboard.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You can see we have seven podcasts there. We have the Chris Voss Show, Crypto Life Podcast, the Gaming Podcast, spatial computing podcast, a startup unicorn podcast, Chris Voss podcast on politics, Chris Voss gaming and book author podcast. If you want to be on any of them, contact the Chris Voss show.
Starting point is 00:24:16 What's interesting is I can go into the dashboard. Now I can see my starts, my streams, my number of listeners, number of followers. I can see different date ranges and stuff like that. This is great data. I can see start streams, listeners, and then I can drill down into that where I can go to my audience
Starting point is 00:24:36 and I can see kind of a graphical, I forget what sort of bar they call this. Well, there's several different versions of it. I can see how many females and males are listening to me. I can see, or in a percent basis, that is. I can see how many people are listening to me in age brackets. And so I'm always really big with the 28 to 34. I don't know why. And the 35 to 44.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I don't know why. And then for some reason, I'm really big. Wow, 16% with the 0 to 17 crowd. What's going on there, man? I don't think you should be listening to me unless you're 18 and older, man. I don't know. It feels kind of weird, man. Should 17-year-olds be listening to me?
Starting point is 00:25:19 I don't know. I don't know. They're mostly guys, though, so it's probably okay. It'd be weird. In fact, in fact, in the 0 to 17 column, there are no chicks listening to me, the chicks don't kick in until 18 to 22, and then they really kick in, oh wow, the most women listening to me are in the 35 to 44 category, and the 28 to 34 category, so hubba hubba, and this is kind of interesting too, it tells you what artists they're listening to
Starting point is 00:25:45 uh which i'm kind of really disappointed uh i don't know maybe i shouldn't be i don't who cares uh but it says that most of the people listen to chris voss show podcast on spotify uh are also listening to stevie wonder now i get that he's a extraordinary musician very talented there's John Mayer who I think is an extraordinary musician but I don't get any of his music effect I can't name me a song from John Mayer but I I've seen him over the years and I have a lot of respect for him there's Michael Jackson who I have zero respect for and for the most obvious reasons of course with little boys there's's OutKast. Really?
Starting point is 00:26:27 Seriously? I need to find out who's listening to OutKast. I don't even know what OutKast is. I don't even care. And there's some guy named Jack Johnson. Who the fuck out there is listening to Jack Johnson? Which are you, Periscope? Or are you not Periscope?
Starting point is 00:26:41 I just spotted my people. That was Jack Johnson. Who the fuck is Jack Johnson? He's white. So he's not a rapper. Although I don't know. It could be, there's a lot of white rappers now,
Starting point is 00:26:51 which is really annoying to me. I just don't, I just feel like rap is, is something for African-Americans. Like they're really good at it. And if you're a white person doing it, you just don't do it as well. You just don't. It's well you just don't it's
Starting point is 00:27:05 like it's like white people can't dance white people can't jump they just can't they just don't have the rhythm they just they're just not cool that's just it white people are lame in my book so um that's why african-american people they're they're good at so many so many different things because they're just better white people are lame so we're good at so many, so many different things because they're just better. White people are lame. So we're good at, I don't know, accounting or something. Not to say that African American people aren't, but you know, they're going to beat us at basketball all the time. That's a, that's a, uh, who was the guy who did that? Produce that movie. Uh, the really good producer, white man can't jump. So basically that's it. And then it shows the country here. It shows the different countries, which is pretty good. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:27:49 What's the lowest country that's, that's tuning into the Chris Voss show India. Oh, India is a big zero, man. I have one listener in Thailand. It's probably the hooker I saw last time I was there. I got the chlamydia from, I'm just kidding. I've never had chlamydia. Let's see. Netherlands, Ireland, and France. Only one person in France. I have one Nigeria. Or no, that's Nicaragua.
Starting point is 00:28:13 One person in Mexico? What's going on? Spotify? Anyway, most listeners for us are on iTunes. They still dominate the thing. I seriously don't have any people listening to me in India. Why do you hate me, India, I love Indian people, I love your food, your curry, I love Indian food, like a, like a beast, like I love lamb curry, oh, mushrooms, oh yeah, that's the best, and, and they're not even tuning in on Spotify, what's going on there, man? What's up, eh?
Starting point is 00:28:46 So anyway, check that out. If you're not on Spotify, it's with your podcast. You really want to be over there with your podcast. They're really giving Apple a run for their money and dominating over on it. I still think Apple runs the show when it comes to podcasts, but at least in the majority of like downloads and control and everything.
Starting point is 00:29:07 So, uh, you know, you gotta love it and all that good stuff. So anyway, that's kind of the rundown of some of the things I'm thinking about looking at today. Some of the things that stuck out to me in the news. So maybe we can save you some time to read all the stupid shit and you can just go right to it. This, uh, kind of struck out at me too. Let me, let me add on this. LGBTQ YouTubers are suing YouTube over alleged discrimination.
Starting point is 00:29:32 This is kind of interesting. I was reading the details on this LGBTQ thing. A lot of what's happening to these folks now, I don't know the full details. So maybe there's something I'm missing here because I haven't read the lawsuit, the complaint in and of itself. There might be some issues in there that they may have addressed that I'm not fully aware of. But one thing that's happening is YouTube is slowly killing off creators. Yesterday, I posted a post from a guy who claims to be the very first professional YouTuber. He's retiring now after losing 96% of his viewership. He didn't lose it because he posted like, I don't know, like DoPiPi does, you know, Nazi crap or anti-Jewish crap,
Starting point is 00:30:17 and somehow still be able to retain his feed of the Rich Get Richer YouTube and algorithm. Back in 2013, YouTube started enacting this Rich Get Richer algorithm and it started hurting anybody who was a creator and taking away from anyone who was in the top 10 to 20%. I talked to a lot of creators back then at CS and stuff and I'm like, is your paycheck going down every month? And they're like, yeah, it's going down. Yeah, it's becoming an effect. It was kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I saw one of my friends the other day was at the YouTube convention in L.A. I think it was, what's it called, TubeCon, VidCon? I think it's VidCon. And he was like, yeah, it's really cool. All the YouTubers now, they do all this side hustle. They, they have sponsorships and paid ads and, and, uh, all this stuff that they do on the side. I'm like, yeah, dude, that's not actually cool.
Starting point is 00:31:15 That's actually bullshit because it used to be, you can make a living just uploading your videos. Uh, I gotta tell you, YouTube has probably like 3,500 fucking videos of mine on the Chris Voss show but I really think YouTube is moving more to TV and they're just fucking over creators so you've seen a few people that are starting to quit the platform you're starting to see some changes to even over at Twitch where people are moving over to the new Microsoft version of Twitch if you will but anyway this version this this first professional YouTuber,
Starting point is 00:31:47 I think he was one of the first ones to get different sort of ad deals or sponsorship deals. And he's been on it since 2005, I believe. Anyway, he is saying he's retiring. And I got looking over his stats. He's suffering from the same thing I am and everybody else is on YouTube that isn't in the top 10%. Their algorithm is feeding everything to the top 10%.
Starting point is 00:32:13 The rich get richer and the poor get poorer basically sort of thing. And now they're charging like 50 bucks and doing their YouTube thing. I think they're just trying to kill off creators I noticed when I looked at his ad the there's the one gal who did the I think it was the Justin Bieber thing the creepy gal the creepy clingy gal whatever her thing is where what was it called many waves that one gal she's kind of cute and she did the video about how she was kind of crazy. And she's like, you know, I'm your girlfriend sort of thing, whatever. Something annoying girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Anyway, I'm sure you know who we're talking about. But she just recently this month killed her channel and said, I'm out. I'm out. She's kind of been out for a year or two. She's been showing up once a year to do a video. But she finally went out. I think you're going to see a lot more creators quitting YouTube. I've seen some other people that have quit YouTube and say they're quitting YouTube.
Starting point is 00:33:10 You just can't make a living on it anymore. So it's really sad, and it seems like the top 10%, some of them, no matter how bad of an actor they are, between DoopiePies, like I said, his racist stuff, his nazi stuff his anti-jewish stuff um there's been there's a couple other creators that have done some really heinous things like the guy who went to the suicide place and um the suicide uh forest i think that was in japan and he went there and turned into a joke um you know he's he's had several gaffes and he's still you know youtube treats him like a baby uh and and uh you're just kind of seeing this this uh what's the right word for it this uh would you say funneling off or the squeezing of the system to where they're just killing off
Starting point is 00:33:57 creators and i think they've i think they've found a better revenue stream through working with music companies through working with big TV channels and brands like Netflix and stuff and they're basically just becoming another streaming video channel I mean I was paying like 40 bucks a month I think for YouTube TV and now it's 50 and which is crazy because that's a pretty high price for streaming and what they're offering. You can actually get a better deal on sling, but they actually have better, uh, saves of your, um, videos and they've got a better back in their, their building and the thing. So it's going to be kind of interesting to see how that whole works out. But I think we're going to see a lot of YouTubers that are dead. Um, you know, and I've been pretty brutal with snake oil salesmen for the last two years, I think it is, who are out selling how to get rich on YouTube when it's really dying.
Starting point is 00:34:50 The ability to get rich on there is dead. I suppose unless you can go on and be another Taylor Swift, but you've got to be young. I can see one of this guy's problems, the first professional YouTuber is he's too old for YouTube. People ask me they're like why don't you put your face on youtube we tried for a long time but 10 to 15 year olds don't dig this face this age this dude um that's been a running joke for a long time that if you're over 20 or 25 you know you're just on YouTube. Now I'm sure there's exceptions to the rule, but like I said, I think YouTube is slowly killing off creators and they're fine with it.
Starting point is 00:35:31 They're just seeing too much space. And so all your kids that are growing up out there in the world, they're like, I'll just put a YouTube channel up and get rich. I'll just put a Twitch channel up and get rich. You cannot do that anymore. People. Nope. Nope. Not unless you create something that's so fucking unique. Um, so fucking crazy. Like I saw a lot of those, uh, slow motion videos.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Those are kind of crazy, but they take a lot of money and expense and cameras to work those things. And probably a lot of post editing, you know, the ability to just throw together a video and put it up, uh, and have good content just doesn't get, doesn't get cared about anymore. It used to be the population would determine what was hot or not. But now everything, when you look at it, is just paid promotion
Starting point is 00:36:17 that's hidden behind a, this is what's trending. And it's really just paid promotion. The movie companies and the music companies are paying to be, are doing pay-ola to get to the top of it. And they just don't care. You know, they found they're making millions of dollars. They don't need my 3,500 videos anymore. I still get money from them. It's a nice kind of sort of added revenue thing to get from them. But it's nowhere near, not even close to the amount of
Starting point is 00:36:45 money I used to be able to make. And you can make more than most people made on average in America on YouTube. And I remember those days and I don't think those days are ever coming back. Uh, me with some more platforms or some competition might be, there might be a whole mess of people leave YouTube and go someplace else. That's actually how YouTube got created off of Justin TV. Justin TV was the YouTube back in the day. Um, and then I just seen a bunch of people, uh, got lulled over, um, got tempted over by YouTube, went over there with their audience and, um, really helped build it, which is kind of a shame because she should be getting a bigger check for that. I think last time I talked to her um years ago at a ces i i asked her is your check going down too she's like yeah um so uh when you
Starting point is 00:37:32 see youtubers out hustling all this extra stuff because they're not making money off of views that's a warning fucking sign they're having to do that they're not doing that out of privilege they're not doing that out of the old privilege of YouTube where you can make a living at it. They're having to do that just to justify being able to keep making videos. And for some people now, they're making a living off of the ads and sponsorships and promotion and all the other different side hustles they have to do. The money they're getting from YouTube really isn't significant enough. Um, but you know, they're using the YouTube as a platform to get that money, uh, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:38:15 So, uh, it's kind of the thing that hinges on everything. It's kind of like, you don't make great money being an author of a book. You make great money speaking, consulting from the business, uh, and that kind of pays for the book. So you just kind of wipe all the costs in between. But, um, yeah, if you think you're going to go on YouTube or Twitch and get rich anymore or make a living, uh, at it, you've got kids that are doing that. You may want to discourage them, tell them just to stay in college because that fucking shit ain't going to happen anymore. And I think the more money YouTube makes off of, uh, the new YouTube TV and everything,
Starting point is 00:38:46 um, they're just going to keep crushing creators. Uh, their algorithm is doing it on its own, whether they intend to or not. And the rich will just keep get richer, the poor get poorer, and you'll probably see big defects soon. So, um, there you go. That's the fun part. So that's my take on the news and world world, what's happening in business and tech. You can contact me at LinkedIn, Twitter, or Facebook under the name Chris Voss, one word. You can find me, of course, probably all over the internet at Chris Voss, except for the.com. I don't own that, unfortunately. But you can find me everywhere else.
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