The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Sneable Sports 5, Meet Tommy Tacklebarry: Team Leader by Jennifer K Rosen

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Sneable Sports 5, Meet Tommy Tacklebarry: Team Leader by Jennifer K Rosen https://www.amazon.com/Sneable-Sports-Meet-Tommy-Tacklebarry/dp/B0F52W12PL Meet Tommy Tacklebarry, founder and team leader of The Sneable Sports 5! The Sneable Sports 5 are five friends who come from all over America and joined together as co-founders to create a special organization to share their own unique experiences. Helping kids is what they love to do! Tommy Tacklebarry is the first book in this engaging series featuring talented athletes who are determined to help children navigate any challenges they may face in life. Many types of sports, especially football, have always been easy for Tommy, but sitting still, staying quiet and focused when he was in the classroom was a challenge for him. His football coach, Mr. Bevel and his Teacher Mrs. Angleton, help Tommy learn to use his voice in a positive way and to understand how he learns best in the classroom. With their inspiration, Tommy decided he wants to help others, so he formed the Sneable Sports 5 team with four of his friends. Their goal is to help children through any challenges they may face in life with education, counseling and other various programs. The Sneables all share a desire to help kids just like YOU excel in whatever you do! We know you have many choices in the ever-growing world of children's books, but we believe this series offers something that is different, inspiring and enjoyable for your child and the whole family. At the end of the story, Tommy offers helpful tips about bullying. We want you to know that you don't have to be a star athlete to be a Sneable Sports 5 Team Member, you and your child will find a list of ways they too can become a Team Member with their very own Certificate of Accomplishments! Follow the adventures and experiences of these sports characters.

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April 11th, 2025 by Jennifer K. Rosen and Michael T. Pellegrino. We're going to get into some of their insights and what causing to write these books and what they're looking to hope to do to inspire people as well. Jennifer lives in Fort Myers, Florida with her husband, daughter and their two dogs. She has a degree in early child education. He's worked for several years as a teacher in both private preschools and public elementary schools. Michael lives in St. Petersburg, Florida, with his life partner, Lynn. He's the creator and founder of the Sneebel Characters and the Sneebel Sports 5.

Born and raised in upstate New York alongside his identical twin brother and twin older siblings, his creativity has been a defining trait. Having been bullied for wearing glasses as a child, He understands the hardship many children's face with a rise of social media. Through the Snevel Sports 5, Michael seeks to address issues like bullying and showing kids that have unique qualities that make them special. Welcome to the show of both of you. How are you? Good.

How are you, Chris? Really good. Thank you for this opportunity. Thank you. It's good to have us. Give us any.com social media, wherever you want people to find out more about you on the interwebs. We are at Sneebles Sports5.com, and you can find us on the internet. We have a Facebook page.

We have an Instagram page and a TikTok page. Jennifer, yes, Ms. Rosen, anything else you want to throw in? I was just, you said, our social media sites, so that's good, too, in the Sneebel Sports 5. Our website has some fun activities for the children with coloring pages and other activities to do, too. Hopefully we'll talk a little bit more about that. Oh, yeah. Let's get into it. Give us a 30,000 overview in both your opinions, what Sneebel Sports 5 is about.

The Sneeble Sports 5 is a group of five athletes that come together to help the kiddos. Helping kids is what they love to do. And they share their life experiences on when they were growing up and what they went through. And their motto is, if we can do it, you can do it better. Yes, and I think the important, one of the big things about the Sneebel Sports Five is that they are a team and they work together as a team. So the main character, the first character team, the team leader Tommy Taco Barry, helps to build that team first. So the first five books will really be about building that team. And then we'll build on to that with more books, introducing just some members of the team.

So what is this Eble? That's what my mom? Really curious. I'm learning a new word. I came up with this idea about these animated characters. I designed these animated characters and was battling a name that I could come up with. And I came up with Weebel. and then I went with weebles wobble but they don't fall down so I want weebles sneebles

somehow it just rolled I don't know weebles and sneebles I guess it's kind of like asking what is a muppet you know yeah I got to be honest with you Chris I battled for a week or two to come up with a name for the characters and that's basically how I came up with it oh really yeah And does it denote anything? Does it refer to any sort of 70 basis of reference? No, it does not. No, it's just the name of it.

Just for fun. Well, I mean, it's kind of a unique name, a sneebel. Sounds like something, I don't know, something you get from sneezing too hard or something. I don't know. I just do a joke, folks. I'm just doing. We just do the jokes in the show. I know it's an unusual name, but that's how I came up with it, and I kind of stuck with that over the years.

All right. All right. So give us, Jennifer, did you want to jump into any definitions on the Snebel in your opinions? Michael's the one that came up with them. So I just kind of came into it and found it and said, you know what? These look fun. So in what ways do you both contribute to the book? I know I see illustrator here and author.

Tell us how you guys work this out between the two of you. Well, Jennifer is a very talented writer, and she's a great author. And her family is talented authors also. Where I come in is where we just, during a collaboration, we decide who goes first and second. in the book series. So we start off with the leader, Tommy Tacklebearing, what direction he's going to go in and what characters are going in there.

I'm more of writing the script and writing the background, turning it over to Jennifer, and we collaborate back and forth page by page. So he gives me kind of like, initially he had a very short background for the first five characters on his LinkedIn page, actually. And then I kind of, he gave me some, a few other little ideas of where he wants to go with that. And I just kind of take it and run with it.

So I write the stories, but then we always throw ideas back and forth at each other. And since it's all about teamwork, I think that's an important part. We emulate teamwork really well. I tell him then, I'll send him, after I get the story written, I'll send him the, what I call a storyboard. So I say, here's what I think the illustrations should look like. and then he works on those illustrations and then we balance ideas and he goes well maybe this will work better

I'm like yeah that would work better and we just go back and forth sounds like guys make a nice collaborative team tell us there's four books in the series and there's a fifth one that's coming out from my understanding tell us about what you're trying to accomplish we talked in the bios about bullying

and some of the different issues this is targeted towards children of course children's books tell us some of some of of the issues that you broach in the books and try and, you know, give blueprints to resolve. Okay. Okay. Michael, you can start with Tommy and then, yeah.

Yeah, we'll start with Tommy Tackleberry, the team leader. He's, him and his family are from Pigskin, Texas. Ah. Because there's actually a place called Pigskin, Texas? Well, that's what I came up with the football. They have a lot of football there, so. Right. That's what he was thinking.

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if there was. I mean, it's football, you know, they, I mean, you got, what, the Cowboys and the Texans in Texas? There's a lot of football there. It's possible. It's possible. And so it starts with Tommy. And as a child, even as a toddler, he was, everything he touched, he was. As far as sports, I mean, he could throw a football or a ball when he was crawling around on the floor.

So he was very talented athlete, but he struggled in the classroom. And Jen will explain that to you. Yeah, so we gave Tommy a little bit of a learning, not a disorder, but just a challenging learning type. So there's different styles of learning that we know of like visual learners, auditory learners, and kinesthetic. Kinesthetic is probably the most misunderstood by parents and teachers. It doesn't mean they have ADHD. It just means that they learn in a different way, usually by something active. So that was something that not all, I don't want to say.

So teachers sometimes even struggle with that. Like it tends to be the child that doesn't want to sit down, can't stay still, can't focus. But if they learn how they learn best, then we can work. with that. And as a teacher, I've seen run into those children a lot. Yeah. And so children that might be having issues, this can be a great book for them to help. You know, I mean, I remember my issues when I was a child in elementary school with bullies. It was steal your lunch money. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yes. That happens to me a lot. Yeah. So the bullying issue was because he was one that the teachers always had to talk to. So they thought, oh, he's, you know, quote unquote,

the bad kid but we never as a teacher never call the kids the bad kid but like just for an example i'll just throw this out there as going with my early childhood education part a child who has a kid who's a kinesthetic learner might learn how to do their numbers or math better by playing hopscotch rather than having it written on the board or something like that if that makes any sense so they can see the numbers and they can play the hopscotch so they're doing something active Yeah, and that's, yeah, so this, that was one of his issues. That's the issue he was facing. Yeah, I mean, I like stuff where you can see the real world application.

Go ahead, I'm sorry to cut you off there, Michael. No, in the book series, Tommy does have two important mentors. He has one of his teachers, Mrs. Angleton, and it's Coach Bevels. They are mentors that help him through what he's going through. Oh, that's good. It's good to have mentors in life. They take those strong suits that he does have and build onto those strong suits. That's one of the great things about teachers, too, is they really help. You know, sometimes when you're going through those hardest times in life, you know,

you're growing, developing, and of course, you know, school just seems to be a huge hazing sort of incident. Pretty much describes my whole childhood of schooling, just constantly being hazed. even in high school I had bullies and you know people are trying to mess with us and and you're just like when does this end and then then I got into real life and I had bullies and people that wanted to bully me and now I'm on social media and I have the same thing just never end yeah like uh on youtube they're like you talk too much and you never let the people talk and I'm like I'm pretty sure we do and uh you know I mean I can say five words and they'll write that I talk that I talk too much on the YouTube videos.

No, you're fine. I enjoy watching your videos. I know. I'm like, how much, you know, and then if I don't talk enough, then they say that I'm not engaged enough. And I'm like, you wanted the client, you wanted the, you wanted the, you wanted the, uh, guest to talk. I mean, make your freaking mind.

It can't win. You can't win at all now. Lots of bullies. Lots of bullies. So books like yours can help prepare you for a lifetime of bullies and, and, and other issues also. Life lessons is what Tommy learns from his two mentors as he's going through middle and high school. And he takes those life lessons and forms the foundation, K-Y-D-A, keep your dreams alive with his parents, okay?

And now it branches out where it becomes so large he has to find co-founders. and his sister Daisy I'll let Jennifer take that from there introduces him to our next book Jenny Love right so if you don't want to go on with Jenny Love

so Jenny Love is the second book she spoke to so we meet Daisy and Tommy's book Daisy is Tommy's sister she plays tennis and we find out that Jenny is also a tennis player and they're going to a tennis tournament And at the big tennis tournament, Jenny sees Daisy, and she's very nervous because it's her first time at a tournament.

And Jenny's been through a few. And so she goes over and talks to her, and they discover they build a friendship. And through that friendship is how she finds, she meets Tommy, and she finds out about the Snaples Sports 5, this team that he wants to put together to help other kids. So Jenny is an inspirational speaker, but she starts off having, as a child, she was a stutterer. So she stutters. And through tennis, her speech therapist helps her use her love of tennis to help her calm her body, to learn to calm her nerves, you know, when she's nervous or excited. She uses tennis as a way of her calming therapy, and it helps her to be able to speak better and not stutter. And she actually becomes a pretty good singer also.

Ah, well, that's awesome. She also has a mentor as she's going through school. Dorothy's short thing is her speech therapist. Yes. Yeah, so Dorothy really helps her. And she joins the team as a mentor as well as the coach bubble and Mrs. Angleton. Can I just say Mrs. Angleton is based on my mom, who is a teacher. And she was very inspiring, yeah, who was always very in tune with her students.

And, yeah, I just, we both have a lot of characters that are influenced by real people in our lives. Teachers are so important. My mom is a teacher for 20 plus years. So is my sister. I mean, the teachers change lives. They give inspiration. Yes. You know, like I said, through all the hazing, they kind of help give you a pathway out where they're like, hey, it's okay.

You know, and teachers have supported me when I was younger and got bullied and stuff. And, you know, they made the experience. Not the experience of bullying can be made much more pleasant, but they, you know, they gave an alternative sort of view. Like, it's not quite as bad as you think, and, you know, this is part of the gig. But it definitely prepared me for adulthood. But, you know, having some of these books and talking about some of these hard lessons gives people a vision. You know, when I was younger, finding other people that, I think you mentioned people that were kind of like, I think you said founders or board members or, people that were like them.

So, yeah, they're founders and, um, and their mentors. Yeah. And so me finding other people who thought like me when I was young made me realize that I wasn't alone. And that was really important because, you know, you could really feel alienated when you're in your teens and you're in school and you're getting bullied and hazed and you're comparing yourself to other people, you know, that really doesn't, you know, measure up to really who you are and stuff.

So. Absolutely. that peer pressure. The peer pressure. Absolutely. That peer pressure will do it every time. And so, yeah, the,

it's one of those things that can really help you in that regard. So with the series, you guys are writing this. Do you have a plan on how many books you're going to have in the series? We all know it's the Snebel Sports 5.

So there are, there definitely are five books. Other team members do join from different countries. Okay. And some from the states as well. As the states and then branches out globally because everybody starts to find out what the Stable Sports 5 is doing and they're helping the kids. Before we go into the next book, Chris, I do want to mention that each book has a message in the book for grandparents and caregivers our books are unique and different because in the

end we have a little workshop for the kids you know and and there's how can you be a positive team player this is j j j j j j jammers book which we're going to get into next there's a workshop and the kids earn a certificate once they become a team member, they sign a certificate in the back of the book, and you can pull it out of the book, and you can frame it. This is a good keepsake. Yeah, there's Jenny's certificate. So each book offers that checklist, like he said, and the parents can decide maybe, you know, with the kids, what activities they can do to help earn that team member. Maybe for two, for one child, it's only doing two things. Maybe their child can do five things.

They don't have to do everything on the list, but just gives them ideas of how to be a team member and teamwork is important for life. Yeah. Teamwork makes the dream work, as they say. Yeah. And then as we, oh, go ahead. I'm sorry.

I'm just pulling silly references. You're right, though. You're right. Well, in this for instance, it does. Yeah. And so the third book in the series is Meet J.T. J. he's the basketball star and he's a math wiz he's a teacher and he's from dribblewood

indiana oh yes oh jenny's from gamesville virginia i forgot to talk about but dribblewood indiana dribblewood is there such a place called dribblewood that because that's another that's another name that i would believe it you know the indiana hosures and basketball yeah i mean i would totally buy that if he told me that was a real city He'd be like, yeah, it must be. I mean, who would name the city that that isn't in Indiana? Well, J.T. is about my family, and J.T. is my older brother. Okay.

Yep. So this story is about basically my family and my older brother. My mother raised two sets of twins on her own that were two years, two months apart. Mm-hmm. Enhanced the company name today. in tomorrow's creations. That's how I came up with that. She was a single parent,

raising two sets of twins on her own. She works in the school cafeteria, and she's also the superintendent of the building that we live in. And also, too, our grandparents are also in the building,

the apartment building, and they're upstairs, and everybody helps out. Okay. Everybody helps out. My mother, my mother is decide she's going to go to nursing school. So that is a challenge right there. And she completes her nursing license and she graduates. And, you know, as we get older, yep, she's a nurse.

And she basically looks like that. There's his mom. There's a, there you go. Well, that, I mean, that works out great. I mean, I think you've got a lot of inspiration going on here in the series. Tell us about what you have on the website you offer. And then I see these shirts, the T-shirts behind you guys. Tell us about that.

Oh, sure. Yeah, we can go into that, too. So on the website, we have activities for the kids to do coloring books, yeah, pages. And we try to change them regularly. It's been part of that I thought to change them. But we do have activities that are learning activities. So I have some new activities up there for winter break, mostly like reading. We have like Sudoku.

I created these online and word finds, that type of thing. And then we have some math problems, just little things to keep them going. The age group, by the way, is even though we say it's for all ages, it really is for all ages. But the target age is for maybe second to fifth grade. okay so that's kind of where we're going with that but again it's for everyone in the family and i want to mention a little bit about that too real quick before we talk about the um marketing in the back of every book also along with what we talked about with the um certificate the the um the main character like in j t's book talks about more of what he went through

Like his book is mostly about the importance of community because his family helped raise him. And we were four. Yeah. Yeah. And community was very important. So he built a community center to help bring that community back together that he sees falling apart that he grew up. The community that he grew up with was kind of falling apart. No safe places for the children to play.

So he built a community center. And then he talks a little bit more about those things in here. but also the mentors in each book like for him it's Carl Kulwick who is his uncle his mom's brother that becomes the mentor but then he talks a little bit and gives more

information to the parents not just to the children so we talk to the parents and caregivers of the children as well so we want the families to be involved not just the kids we want us to be a family book as well and Carl Kulwick

is based on my dad sort of I'll tell you what Chris the community center was a blessing because now the Snable Sports 5 have a place to meet I mean they're not coming over here at my house anymore

it was just so full of energy and they're all over the place it would just have to be too much you know Tommy Tabalberry throwing the football around in the house it just got to be too much so now they meet at the community center that J.T. and his uncle, you know, built in dribblewood, Indiana.

Ah, so what else do we need to talk about with the books that maybe we haven't fleshed out and what people are doing with them? I know one question I had, we kind of touched on this. I think in the pre-show about the importance of reading, the importance of influence on young children and parents reading to children, too. We've been talking about that lately. Why is that important as well? Yeah, so, Michael, I'll take this for a minute and then I'll let you join in too.

But I think it's super important for, as a childhood educator, also I'm an early childhood educator, mostly. But reading to children is the building block of all other learning. And even when your child is old enough to start to learn to read, you can still read to them a book that's maybe a step above their reading level. And their vocabulary will grow. there's so much media out there and so much right now now we're taking the time just to spend that time that quality time and build that relationship with your child while you're reading to them is it's a building block that I think is missing in many of the children today and I think we need to get back to reading and not just putting it on a book on the iPad and let them listen to a book on

there you know you want to listen to they want to hear your voice and they have you have you have build that community, a communication with your child, better communication. I read to my daughter every single day from the time she was born, the day she was brought home from the hospital until the day she actually, we still read to her, I still read to get to her in middle school. By high school, she even said to me sometimes, I miss when we used to read together. So, yeah. And I think that's important.

It builds a better bond for parents and children. I think they're missing. There's such a separation when you just hand them a screen. Yeah. And reading is. We are also finding out that parents that purchased the book wind up reading the book and enjoying the book because it gives them flashbacks to when they went to school. And my 96-year-old father-in-law has every book and loves every one of them.

Yeah. So we really want it to be for the whole family to enjoy together and talk about it. about and open up conversations that are tough conversations. I think the fourth one, we'll talk about that real quick if we have time. Just the Sneeble Sports Five, the Samantha Gookicker. She's book for number four. This book just came out last week, actually. So we're really excited that we got it in before the podcast.

But this came out just on, and her situation is a little different. She's adopted, but she's gone, she went through several, a couple different homes before she found her forever family and she's, Michael, this is how we worked so well together. Michael came up with. Chris, I do power walks every morning before I do my part-time job and it's just, it's so quiet and your mind is clear and it's fresh and then all of a sudden all these thoughts start popping into my head and coming into my head, well, maybe we should do this, we're going to make it a multi-cultured neighborhood, and Harvey Krancmeister is going to be the police officer in the neighborhood, and she's adopted by an India family.

Yeah. So she kind of has to get used to this different culture, and she really, at first, pushes it aside, not because it's a different culture, but because she's been hurt so often with other families, but she wants to be able to find her way, you know, to into this family and who really love her. And she finds that there's a whole different meaning of family and acceptance with this. But also, she's still as an adult or as an older team we have her as, she still, she goes to therapy.

So there's nothing wrong with going to therapy. We want to put that out there, too, that child mental health is super important. It's, oh, it's, and again, I think with our, a lot of the now, now, now situation where everything has to be, you know, on screens or whatever, our children are missing a lot of that social emotional learning that they should be getting. And this one really talks a lot about the social, the importance of social emotional skills and how important, you know, that is. Developing them. Go ahead. It goes along with, if you see something, say something. And if you're not feeling right and something is wrong, say something. If you don't want to say something to your parents, maybe say something to your favorite teacher or something.

And if you need help, just ask for it. Just ask for it. Exactly. Yeah. Asking for help is not a sign of weakness. And one of the things Samantha says is a flower cannot grow without the help of the sun and the soil. So in the rain, we all need to work together in order for that. child for the flower to bloom and for the child to bloom. Everybody, you know, we still,

everybody needs somebody to talk to. Yeah. And I mean, this kind of, this kind of goes along with saying, hey, you know, emotional development, emotional, what's sort of I'm looking for? Emotional intelligence development is really important in teaching kids these, these skills that they can use. And then, of course, raising their emotional intelligence can help them in all formats of life when it really comes down to it, I think. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

Emotional intelligence. Get some today. You can order it. What are your favorite vendor of whatever emotional intelligence serving as there are. And remember, one serving per day. I should probably sell that in a can or something. You just drink.

You like some emotional. Emotional intelligence. Boy, I'd hand that out like water. so now there's a book five coming up tell us when this releases or do you have a release date on this we do not have a release date on it it's the it's the baseball player it's billy backins he's from sluggerstown new york sluggers town new york i keep telling them where they're from i keep forgetting to do that sluggertown new york now is there a sluggers town new york because that sounds like yankees

You know, Chris, when we're done here, you better write these down. You're going to, I know you're going to start looking at them. You're going to look them up. We were thinking kind of up Cooperstown, if you've ever heard of that one in New York, that upstate New York, big baseball town. Sluggers down, you know. He's a baseball player. And he's the fifth and final co-founder.

He's contacted by J.T. Jammer. And he contacts Billers. Billy Backins because he's a very caring and kind and has empathy for children and animals. And that's why he's contacted for what he's doing in Sluggers Town, New York. Oh, right. Yeah. He's going to be a nature lover. And we, but his parents are divorced.

So again, we're taking on these difficult situations and hoping to help kids. you know, but we're bringing them in by using the sports sports themes. So the books aren't really completely about sports. They're more about bring, that's just to help bring in the kids attention and then hopefully, you know, find something that they can relate to because, or even if they have a friend whose parents are divorced or they have a friend

who's been adopted or something like that that, you know, or is struggling with social emotional issues or depression. So we just want to to help children. Helping kids is what we like to do, right? That's one of the main artists. Yeah, it is. And, you know, now the group has formed,

and they're all from the United States, obviously, and it does branch out from there where a hockey player in Canada contacts Billy Backins. This is down the road. So the series continued. Liam Parkerson. Liam Puckerson is our hockey player, and that'll be book six. Ah.

Yeah, so spoiler, spoiler alert. Ah, so there is a book six then. Oh, yeah. And so on. They'll be more from different parts of the United States and different parts of the world that hear about the group, hear about the Snebel Sports 5, love what they're doing with the kids, and want to be a part of the K-Y-D-A, keep your dreams a live foundation.

And what happens is that Snavel Sports 5 are contacted when there's a, there could be an issue in a different school district, in a different country, and how they should handle that. And Book 6 will probably take us to up in Canada for an issue up there. We have some ideas. We have, you know, so I want to back off from Book 6 and go back to Book 5. We're not quite ready there. Yeah, Philly Backins, we have the first five or six pages written,

and we go page by page, illustration by illustration. Maybe towards the end of this year, but the early part of next year, I would say probably be better as spring training starts for baseball. Ah, spring training for baseball. That's always good, too. You've got all these great baseball names and all that stuff. It's pretty funny. So as we round out the show, anything more we want to discuss or promote while we have you guys here.

Do you want to talk about the merchandise a little bit, maybe? Yes. Okay. Oh, go ahead. Leable Sports 5 has their own website, you know, that they asked us to design it. And we got together, Jen and I got together, and we put the brain teasers. By the way, those are free. You can go to the website and print it out.

They're free. And on the website, you'll find merchandise that. A link to our store. A link to our store. Right. All the different shirts, as you can see. That's got a report. I left that out.

Because, you know, a book is a book, and you're going to read it, you know, three or four times. And let me read that again. And you're going to slide it in the bookshelf. but what you do have is yes you have your certificate up on the wall but you can also have a reminder like maybe you want a magnet for the refrigerator you know these are like that they're in a team yes yeah so they're constantly reminded that they're a team member of the stable sports five every time they go to a refrigerator or you know we have some you know stickers available for your your laptop or your you're no

your water cup your water bottle you know and you can also take these small gift items and you know you can buy a a gift bag you know

light them in there and get them to your kids it's just a constant I take my lunchbox with me to work when I go to work when I'm teaching I take my little lunchbox with me there has to see one we've come up with merchandise

that's a concert reminder that your children are a part of a team. And they're team building, team work and team building, and they're a part of the team. And you don't have to be a star athlete. Right. I was just going to say that. Snebel Sports 5 team.

You do not want to, you don't have to be a star athlete. Although them being athletes is what brings them together, you don't have to be into any kind of sports, whatsoever to be a team member. Yeah. And so it's just inspiring, motivating, helping kids have blueprints to figure out life,

et cetera, et cetera. Well, thank you very much, both of you for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. Well, thanks for having us. Thank you, Chris. Thank you for having us. And give us your dot-coms as we go out so people can find you on the interwebs. Sure. Sneeble, sports5.com.

And it's spelled out with just Sneble and then the sports five. So there's only one S in the middle.com. And the five is number five, not the word. Well, thank you very much, both of you for coming to the show. We really appreciate it. Folks, order up the books wherever fine books are sold. Read to your kids. It's really important. We need more critical thinking. We need better in emotional intelligence to this world. We need more intelligence to the world. It's getting really idiocry the movie these days in 2025. So somebody's watching this right now from some, from some, um, from some

Terminator 2 Underground AI as if we're taking the world, whatever. I don't know. Right, we want to avoid AI. Well, he thought it was bad then in 2025. You should see now. So anyway, guys, just joking.

Order of the book, where fine books are sold, the first one in the series is called Snebel Sports 5. Meet Tommy Tackleberry, team leader out, April 11, 2025. Thanks for us for tuning in. Go to goodrease.com, Fortress, Chris Voss. LinkedIn.com, Fortress, Chris Foss.

one on the TikTokit and all those crazy places in the internet. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you guys next time. And I should have us out.