The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Solomea: Star of Opera’s Golden Age by Andriy J Semotiuk
Episode Date: July 16, 2024Solomea: Star of Opera's Golden Age by Andriy J Semotiuk https://amzn.to/3ya7Y3A Myworkvisa.com What does it take to reach the very top of your profession or calling? How does one rise from hum...ble beginnings to achieve greatness and to perform with other first-class artists on the world stage? How do you break through barriers blocking you from reaching success because you are not the "right kind" of person? How do you break through the glass ceiling as a woman? As a parent or grandparent, where can one find a great model for children or even grandchildren to emulate? These are just some of the questions answered in this book. Solomea Krushelnytska was hailed as the world's leading dramatic soprano during the Golden Age of opera at the turn of the 20th century. Born in 1872 into a family with eight children in a small village in Western Ukraine, she studied opera and battled her way to superstardom while performing with opera legends like composer Giacomo Puccini, director Arturo Toscanini, and tenor Enrico Caruso. Working with Arturo Toscanini, she played the lead roles of Salome and Elktra in the premiers of these operas in Italy. Among other major successes, Krushelnytska helped Giacomo Puccini rescue the opera Madama Butterfly from its failed debut at La Scala in Milan in 1904 by playing the lead role of Cio-Cio-San in the opera's re-creation in the Teatro Grande in Brescia, Italy later that year. Thanks to their joint efforts, Madama Butterfly remains one of the most popular operas to this day. She also played other leading roles in major opera houses in Europe, South America, North America, and Northern Africa. Throughout her career, she shared the fruits of her success with her family. Towards the end of her career, she moved back to Western Ukraine on the eve of World War II. Her beautiful voice was then drowned out by the gunfire of Soviet and Nazi armies and she was reduced to struggling for survival. Yet reverence for her talent likely helped her escape most of the ultraviolence that rampaged through her city at that time. Throughout the world war, she sheltered the author's mother, aunt, and grandparents in her apartment. She spent her final years in Lviv, teaching at the same place where her rise to fame and fortune had begun. Told from the perspective of her grand nephew Andriy Semotiuk, with intimate details related to his family's immigrant experience never before shared, her rags-to-riches life story is an amazing odyssey, a triumph of the human spirit, an incredible testament to her dedication to art, and an inspiration to people everywhere.
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Opera's Golden Age, and we're going to be talking about his insights into that. Andy Semichuk joins
us on the show with us today. We'll be talking about that and some of the other work that he does. He's an immigration attorney and we'll get into that as
well and find out what he's up to when he's not writing all these amazing books. He is the author
of four books and he has, let's see here, the one that we four mentioned, A Promise Kept, A Tribute
to a Mother's Love, The Young Professional, A Career guidebook for young people, and a treasure chest of
humor.
So there you go.
He's got quite the gamut of books that are going on there.
He's multifaceted, as they like to say, in the educated class.
He's also a current Forbes columnist, where his articles on immigration have been read
by over one million readers.
He's a former UN correspondent who wrote on immigration and human rights themes.
He formerly wrote for the Southam newspaper chain in Canada.
We love Canada.
I'm a big Rush fan there.
Former Canadian public television producer for one hour public TV show in Edmonton.
Edmonton.
Edmonton.
Edmonton.
Clearly I'm flunking my Canadian here.
A.
Through Shaw Cable. And he's active on all the social media.
Did you do any work on my favorite show, Trailer Park Boys, there in Canada?
I'd like to say I did, but unfortunately no, although I know about the program
and the popularity, especially in
the southern U.S. Oh yeah, everyone says I'm like Ricky. He currently is
practicing U.S. and Canadian immigration law with the Pace Law Firm in Toronto,
and he's married with two adult children.
Welcome to the show.
How are you, sir?
Fantastic.
And I love the way you started.
I like the singing because that brings in the opera book that I'm going to talk about.
Oh, we did that just for you.
I like the jokes because I got a few of those I can share with you.
There you go.
The others that you mentioned.
You do have that book, The Treasure Chest of Humor, so you better have some jokes you brought.
But yeah, we did that just for you.
We brought the opera just for you, Andy.
We were planning on having the show several years ago when we designed that.
So give us your dot coms.
Where do you want people to find you on the interwebs?
You can get a hold of me through PaceLawFirm.com, which is where I work.
And Andy at MyWorkVisa.com is another place where you can email me.
There you go.
I might just mention that all my books are on Amazon if you're looking for the books.
There you go.
Pick them up wherever fine books are sold, ladies and gentlemen.
So give us a 30,000 overview of this new book, Solomia.
Okay.
Look, not everybody's an opera star.
Not everybody likes opera.
So I realize that if I'm starting with this, I've got to make it relevant to the people who are listening and to a guy like you.
So how do we do that?
And I think the way to do that is to mention that this book is not about opera.
It's not about singing it's about human
success and reaching the top now in this particular case the person i wrote about was my great aunt
my grandmother's sister and this is why i wrote about her and she chose the opera world as her
place to rise to the top but it might be for other people you know
sports or it could be law or medicine whatever it is the point is it's about the human experience
and how to reach the very top of your profession or calling and you know to get an idea of what
other people's lives are like what i like about the book is it's a
story it's a story and we all relate to stories you know everybody's from
somewhere okay I my background is you crank it I'm a Canadian I was born in
Canada we've been here for 120 years my but back then my background is Ukrainian
you know others might be you, Italian or Jewish or whatever the background.
That's my background.
And as a result, because it was a family member, I took an interest in her.
And one of the things that intrigued me was, although she was one of the world's, she was the world's top soprano in the first decade of the 20th century in the world.
And she was singing with the greatest opera stars of her age, people like Caruso.
She was performing with people like Puccini and people like Toscanini.
Now, for many people, they may not know any of those names,
may not know about that.
But put it this way.
She was, like today, a famous, shall we say, sports star
or movie star or Broadway play star.
She was at the top of her game back then.
And although the memory of these others,
the people I mentioned, Caruso, Puccini, Toscanini, remains to this day, for some reason, nobody knows about this woman.
Wow.
Now, is it?
I don't know.
You know, what intrigued me was, is it a feminism thing?
Is it that she reached the top, but they don't want to talk about women?
Or, you know, what the heck happened?
How come she's forgotten all these other people are
still around yeah remember she needs someone to tell her story i think there you go and that's
what i did is i told her story now part of her story is she ended up behind the iron curtain
as world war ii started and she never got out from behind the Iron Curtain. And so her legacy was sort of tamped out by virtue of that fact.
The other people were in the West.
For example, Toscanini ended up as NBC conductor in New York.
He was pretty famous in New York.
Puccini, because of his operas, continues to have fame worldwide. And Caruso was
as famous as, for example, Pavarotti was more recently for those people who follow music in
that classical music opera world. Okay, but I want to talk to the people who don't know anything
about opera and who don't care about opera. Those the people i want to talk to to tell them that there's a reason for them to take a look at this book solomia here it is here
you can see you wanted to say something i was going to ask you now i i see on the header here
of the promo i've sent it's this this has to do a little bit. Her story intertwines with Madam Butterfly, the opera.
Thank you.
And I was kind of curious how that played into her life.
For those who don't know anything about opera, Madam Butterfly is one of the top opera operas of the world to this day.
And this is the 120th anniversary of that opera's success.
And the story behind that opera is worth telling.
I'd like to tell it to you now.
It's in the book, but I'll tell you the story.
Puccini, back in the day, this is in the early 1900s,
was the lead sort of composer of operas.
And he was looking for a new opera,
having already reached success in other operas.
And one day he traveled to London and attended a play that was on in London
about a Japanese geisha girl who fell in love with an American naval officer
when the American Navy opened up Japan in the 1800s.
And the story behind this love affair was that this guy named Pinkerton,
who was a lieutenant in the American Navy, met Chiyo Chiyo-san, this geisha girl,
and they had a bit of an affair, and ultimately they ended up having a Japanese style wedding and following their
wedding they lived together for a while before Pinkerton announced they I have to go back to
the United States they're calling me back to the United States but he said I will come back to be with you and Chio Chio's son waited for him to return. She did not tell him that she was
pregnant with his son. He left and was away for four or five years until he returned. By that time
the son was four or five years old and Chio Chio's son was ecstatic that he had returned, but learned that he had brought with him in tow his new American wife.
And so a crisis developed.
The crisis is, does the little boy continue living in Japan with a geisha girl?
Or should he go back to the United States with Pinkerton and his new wife
to lead a life in the United States and they decide he should leave and go back
to the United States in one of the final scenes in the opera
she or she or son takes the boy off to the side and talks to him and she says
this to him as a parting a few parting words she says look at this face
it is the face of your mother remember it you will never see it again wow and following that the boys
left off with pinkerton and she commits hericarean dies. It's a very sad ending to this opera, but it's very powerful.
So 120 years ago, Puccini, having written this opera,
put it on at La Scala, the biggest opera theater in the world,
number one opera theater in the world, with some great stars.
A lady named Storchio, who played the lead role.
A man named Giovanni Gennatello, who played the lead male role, and so on.
To his misfortune and disappointment, the opera was whistled down and booed out.
Wow.
So after one performance at La Scala with some of the top stars of the world of that day,
the opera failed.
And the next day, all the newspapers wrote Puccini bomb, you know, no good.
And he was crestfallen.
Like he loved this opera, but the audience just couldn't stand it.
Isn't that amazing?
Because it became so huge.
Yeah.
He went to his best friend, or one of his best friends at least, Toscanini, and cried on his shoulder saying, look, Arturo, I don't know what to do.
This beautiful opera has been put down.
What should I do?
And Toscanini said, you know, there's only one lady who can help you resurrect this opera and make it worthwhile.
Go see Solomia.
Solomia Krushenitska was her name, who is my great aunt.
And he did. was then at the top of her field, the top soprano in the first decade of the 1900s,
was faced with this dilemma.
It's sort of like, say, Sandra Bullock being asked to play in a film that just bombed with Julia Roberts.
Do I take this on?
You know, why would I?
Yeah, why?
They were friends.
And she said, OK, I'll do it.
Wow. And they started, you know, rewriting the opera and putting it on.
She wore a Japanese outfit, a kimono, for two months straight every day
to get herself in the role.
And the problem she faced was she was 30 years old just over 30 and she was playing a girl
who was 15 years old the Chio Chio San role oh wow but and you know the world was the opera world at
that time was in doubt you know could she do it is this thing going to make it or not so they all
clustered into this theater it's a theater theater grande, Teatro Grande in Russia,
which is about 60 miles from Milan, where La Scala. And on the relevant date in 1904,
they performed the opera. And unlike the La Scala performance, the audience, in this case, loved it from the very first act.
Wow.
So it was really her that made the difference then.
It was her.
Wow.
At the end of the opera, the opera got seven standing ovations.
Wow.
Puccini was so nervous during the opera. He smoked like a chimney. He smoked
like two packs of cigarettes. You know, everybody was really apprehensive. Even the audience was
apprehensive. Everybody was apprehensive, but it was a great hit. And it went on from there.
Salumia performed it 100 times before she gave the script back to Puccini and said, okay,
that's it.
I'm not going to perform this opera anymore.
She went on with her operas.
There you go.
And it probably propelled her to higher success than she had.
Is that fair?
It's true.
Now, this is a lady that performed all over the world.
So she performed in Europe, South America, North America, in Africa, et cetera. For example, in 1928, this Solomia Krusheditska came to New York.
And that was the year, by the way, that the Chrysler Building was built in New York,
if you know the Chrysler Building.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So she was there.
That was the Roaring Twenties.
And as you know, Roaring Tw roaring 20s jazz was the big deal.
Harlem was hot, hot, hot, hot.
Duke Ellington and all the guys were performing out there.
And so she came.
And she loved all kinds of music.
She performed in New York, in Philadelphia, in Chicago.
She even went up to Canada.
She performed in Montreal and in Winnipeg.
Now in 1828, going out to Winnipeg was a three-day train ride.
It was the Wild West.
Some guy came to her performance in Winnipeg from York and Saskatchewan
and took them a whole day to get down to Winnipeg.
But anyway, so she performed there and then she went back to
Europe, of course. Now, what happened
to her, and this might lead us into the other part of a discussion we had
before we came on here. In 1939,
now she married an Italian guy,
he was the mayor of a town called
far from milan on the on the coast they lived together for 20 years she had a very happy life
and then he died in 1936 she looked after his, to eastern Poland, just in August,
just before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed
and just before Hitler invaded Poland to begin World War II.
And she got caught behind the Iron Curtain,
and she lived in that area of the world from 1939 all
the way to 1952 when she died but she was cut off from the West and cut off
from all her colleagues oh wow and you know Ukraine was then under the Soviet
Union and she ended up under the Soviet Union. She died ultimately, as I say, in 1952.
That's horribly unfortunate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the answer to the story or the questions, and I hope this is not overdoing it here,
is her colleagues like Toscanini and, you know, all these guys, they were in the West,
so they just carried on.
Yeah.
She could not carry on because she was cut off from them.
That's unfortunate.
I imagine that hurt her legacy.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, behind the Iron Wall, sadly changed a lot of lives.
Yeah.
So, there you go.
But it's great that you're telling her story now so that it's getting out there.
There's so many stories that were lost in history.
Yeah.
So, it was whitewashing and, you know, here in America, we had a lot of that going on.
So when you were growing up through your family, did you hear, you know, the stories passed down about her?
I'll just tell you this little part.
In 19, about 1957, 58, I came home as a small child for lunch from school.
And I'm sitting at the kitchen
table in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
I don't know if you know where that is,
but you know, North Air, right?
The Oilers lost to
Florida, so they're all disappointed up in
Canada about that.
Anyway, that's hockey.
They'll get over it.
They will, that's true.
Next time.
I'm giving you a heat meal. Anyway, I'm sitting at the
kitchen table. My mother comes in with the mail. She opens the letter. She says, oh, Tata Salomea
Pomarola in Ukraine, which is Aunt Salomea has died. And that was the first time I ever heard of
Aunt Salomea, the opera star. Later, it took, like, my people,
my family did not want to talk about World War II and what was going on over there. So it was
hard to get information about her out. But over the years, after traveling to Ukraine and visiting
there, I learned more and more about her to the point where I decided, hey, nobody out in the West knows about her.
It's time to tell her story.
And that's why I wrote this book.
There you go.
Now, you've written a lot of different books and covered different gambits, but this is an amazing story.
I mean, Madame Butterfly, I mean, can you imagine if that had never succeeded and just gotten buried 120 years ago?
Now that you mentioned other books, I know you're interested in leadership.
We were talking about that earlier.
Yes.
And just like in terms of what your interests are and what you wrote about,
I've written a small book called The Young Professional.
It's a career guidebook for young people going into the professions and it's all about leadership
and i you know look i'm not god i don't yeah i'm not some great guy i you know i just i've
been working as an immigration lawyer and so on but i have a few tips for young people that i
picked up over the years because i've worked with thousands of young people getting them work visas and so on.
Lawyers, doctors, engineers, everybody, school teachers, the whole works.
So I picked up three concerns that most people, young people in particular, but even people
our age have that are dominant in our lives. And the three concerns that I found very interesting were money, time, and balance.
Those are the three concerns.
Most people have one or two or even three of those concerns that are dominating their lives.
So I wrote this book, The Young Professional, talking about those concerns and how to deal with them
and just very briefly in terms of terms of for example money the key there i find to be
to find your unique ability and put it in the service of others this is the way that you can
best compete in the marketplace why because? Because it's your unique ability.
Other people don't have this ability that you have.
And putting it in the service of others
makes it affordable and worthwhile for others.
In the area of time, I talk about,
this is a big thing for leaders, is time.
I talk about the 80-20 principle,
you know, Pareto's principle, that 20% of the people
do 80% of the work. 20% of the people make 80% of the money. And anything you do, 20% of what you do gets 80% of the results. And so that's about time and how to
use time. And in the case of balance, I talk about what are your values as a leader? What are
the values that you cherish? Values such as, I don't know integrity honesty sincerity you know courage
humility whatever your values might be and if you met if you can imagine like a
pie chart and parts of the pie being you know the values that you identify and I
can't tell you your values you know values are values to who to someone your
values so you have to identify are values to who, to someone, your values. So you have to identify
them, but whatever they are, you might say, God, you might say, you know, money, you could say,
you know, art or whatever it is, your values, you put it in a pie chart. And then you ask yourself,
how much time are you devoting to each one of these values and if van gogh who spent all this time
painting and ignored everything else in his life he was a genius when it came to painting but he
was a catastrophe when it came to looking after his own life and his brother had to step in and
help him otherwise he would have been you know finished yeah so so balanced
definitely you gotta have balance definitely so let's touch a little bit before we go out on what
you do as an immigration attorney talk to us about you do us and canadian immigration lawyer i might
me be in america you being in canada oh canada Canada, singing their international anthem there
a little bit, very badly. I think I have to
say it with a lot of aboots, don't I?
And sorrys. So I'm working on my
Canadian language skills.
I'll give you a story right away about Canadian.
Go ahead. Okay.
You know, when Canada was being formed,
they were having a big debate in Parliament.
What should be the name of the country?
And they couldn't agree.
They were just arguing left and right.
And finally, Sir John A. MacDonald, the leader, called all the other leaders together in a room.
He closed the door, locked the door, and he said,
Gentlemen, we're going to sit around this table and we're going to debate until we get a name for this new country of ours.
And they're debating and they still couldn't come up with a name.
And then finally he said, okay, look, each one of you is going to pick a letter, and
we're going to go around the table with the letter, and from those letters we're going
to make up a name.
And they did.
They agreed.
So the first guy said, C-A, and the second guy said, N-A, and the third one guy said C-A and the second guy said
N-A and the first one
third one said D-A and that's
how they came up with the name Canada.
Are you serious? No, that's
a joke.
C-A?
You know how Canadians talk?
C-A?
It grows on you. I think a day or two you'll catch
it tomorrow. I just got had hard.
I'll give you one other one.
A guy goes on a boat cruise.
There you go.
He says to a guy next to him, he says, I speak three languages.
The guy next to him says, what?
Three?
What languages do you speak?
He says, I speak English, English I Speak French and I speak Spanish
And the guy said ah say something in Spanish the guy says
I'll be there is a
the guy says
That's not Spanish. That's German and the guy says that case, I speak four languages.
So you have some fun with it.
Oh, there you go, my friend.
There you go.
Anyway, you were asking about immigration.
Yes.
And what you do there.
Yeah.
I'm going to introduce one little thing to you.
You know, the debate right now is about the southern border.
What the hell is going on there?
How come so many people are coming in here? You know, how do we
address this? Is that your southern
border or our southern border?
Yours. Mine and yours.
I'm a U.S. immigration lawyer.
Like, I practiced 10 years in
Los Angeles, 5 years in New York.
I got it. I got it. It was
happening to the United States.
And, you know, like, I get it every day. And it's was happening to the United States. There you go.
Like, I get it every day.
And it's a concern of mine, you know, as much as it is of everybody else.
But here's the thing.
The world is a very complicated place.
No way.
Like, right now, right now, there are over 100 million people in the world who have no place to live.
Displaced people, over 100 million.
That's a huge sum of people.
And no country, not the United States, not Canada, not Germany, no country can handle 100 million people coming in.
It's just impossible. So you got to worry about who's making
decisions about who comes in and who doesn't. And it should be Congress. Now, Congress is not doing
very well right now in terms of the immigration scene. They need to act a little bit better than
they're acting. And, you know, there's a hell of a debate going on in Congress and they can't agree to anything but unfortunately
they have to agree
that's what democracy is all about
you gotta talk to each other and come up with something
what? we gotta talk to each other?
yeah
I don't know about all this
tell a man
who's divorced with a woman
they gotta talk to each other
sounds like it's pushing it here.
Anyway, this war that's going on in Ukraine.
Now, that's of interest to me because I'm Ukrainian by background.
Everybody's from somewhere.
Some people are Greek, some Italian.
I'm Ukrainian in background.
I was born in Canada.
My family's been in Canada for over 110 years, but before that
they came from Ukraine.
This war in Ukraine, initially when it broke out, almost three years ago, this is the invasion,
not the real war.
The war's been on for 10 years now in Ukraine.
It unsettled something like 20 million people.
No, no, no, not 20.
12 million people.
Forgive me.
Forgive me.
12 million, not 20.
20 million people. 12 million people were displaced in Ukraine looking for some other place to settle.
And of that 12 million, 6 million exited Ukraine and went into Western Europe, and over 100,000 of those
came to the United States. That's just one example of things in the world that are not going very
well, and the displaced people and people who are uprooted and need to come to Western countries and places like the United States.
It is projected that if Ukraine loses the war, that over 20 million such refugees will
be exiting Ukraine, going westward, looking for places to live such as Western Europe
and America, you know, Canada, Australia, et cetera.
That's just one country.
And that's just one part of the world and some of the difficulties that we face in terms
of immigration.
Now, you know, I don't have a total solution to this thing, but I do believe part of the
solution is sponsorships. After World War II, I think there was something like
six or seven million people who were displaced in Western Europe. And a program was brought into
being, Displaced Persons Act, I think it was called, that brought many people to the United States, including
members of my family, perhaps members of families that you may know.
And they came to live permanently here.
But it was based on sponsorships that the people found.
For example, I'll just give two examples.
My aunt, Aunt Helen, came to Los Angeles in the sponsorship of Catholic Aid Society in Los Angeles.
And my uncle came to the United States based on U.S. Army help.
And there were others, all kinds, millions.
So I think that's one of the core things that can be done to help in terms of dealing with the inflow of people
coming into the U.S. If you've got a family member or you have a profession or a professional,
such as you're a teacher and there's teachers in the U.S. that want to sponsor you or some
other connection, perhaps you're, I don't know, a Mormon and you've got Mormons that are willing to help you, whatever it may be.
I think that's a good way to bring people into the U.S.
Those kind of people should be allowed, assuming they're not criminals and they're not, you know, like crazies.
Most Americans are crazy, I think.
That would be a way of bringing them in.
Now, that's not going to solve the problem of 100 million people or even close
to 100 million people. But it is
a way, I think it's a good way
to chip away at the problem.
And I think you have to have
serious issues
or a serious approach
to getting that
southern border under control and that's
stuff they're dealing with. Anyway, that's
my two bits about the southern border. And so, if people are interested in immigration to the u.s or
canada for help how can they reach you the best way is to contact pace law firm
at ace emmichuk at pace law firm dot com is my email address if they want to reach me that way
there you go and your website right Now, I have a personal website.
It's called myworkvisa.com.
And on that website, myworkvisa.com, all my books are listed there.
And I talk about stuff that I do, such as what I'm doing right now here with you, Chris.
You know, you can look up stuff on me there.
There you go.
People like to do that and stuff.
So there you go.
All right.
So give us your final thoughts on your there. There you go. People like to do that and stuff, so there you go. Alright, so give us your final
thoughts on your book. Tell people to pitch out
to pick it up and where they can
get it. Okay.
As far as all the books are concerned, they're all
on Amazon. If you want the book
about Salomea, look up
Salomea, Star of
Opera's Golden Age
on Amazon. You'll find it.
The book looks like this with a golden cover
same is true for the other books just look up my name i guess one last thing i would like to say
is look the war in ukraine is ongoing now for some time any help and any support that people
are willing to give is something that's greatly appreciated if I may draw an analogy if someone broke into your house and then told you I want
to live in your house I'm going to be living here from now on you'd be very
happy about it that's what's happening over there so thank you for allowing me
to be on your show and to share my thoughts with you and to be with you
thank you for coming and our thoughts are always with the people of the
Ukraine we We want
to see that war end and their lands
return to them. And it's just
devastating that in 2024 this
is going on. You would think
we were over this thing. And I think a lot of people thought
we're over all the wars
and stuff. But nope, here we are.
Sadly there's evil people in the world, folks.
That's why we need to all be the best we can be
and elect the best people that we can elect that support democracy and freedom. Thank you very
much for coming on the show, sir. We really appreciate it. My pleasure. There you go. And
I wonder if the book, folks, wherever fine books are sold, it was out August 11, 2023,
Solomia, star of the opera's Golden Age. And of course, you haven't checked out Madam Butterfly.
It's one of the greatest operas ever. It's one of the most popular golden age and of course you haven't checked out madam butterfly it's one of
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