The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Street Smarts: Trust Your Instincts, Outsmart Danger, and Stay Safe in a World That Isn’t by Dannah Eve

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

Street Smarts: Trust Your Instincts, Outsmart Danger, and Stay Safe in a World That Isn’t by Dannah Eve https://www.amazon.com/dp/0063438887 From the mindset you move with, to the habits you create, and the tools you carry—learn how to stay sharp, stay ready, and stay safe in every aspect of your daily life! Dannah Eve has always been street smart, and for the past several years, she has been sharing her advice, self-defense strategies, and safety tips with millions of engaged social media followers. With the encouraging tone of a savvy older sister, she has built a platform that teaches women how to think like a threat—mastering situational awareness, calculated deception, and the art of always being ready. This is survival on your terms. These are just a few of the rules she lives by: Lie to survive: You don’t owe a stranger your truth. Especially if it compromises your safety. On a date: Don’t rush to share your personal details—a Tinder match is not yet a trusted person. Living alone: Keep a pair of men’s shoes by the door; you’ll be a less-obvious target. While commuting: Never leave any personal information visible—such as your workplace ID, nametag, or packages showing your address. On vacation: Walk with confidence and a strong stride; a distracted person is an easy target. While driving: Never pull over for an unmarked vehicle; anyone can order police sirens and flashing lights online. At school: Research and use the available campus shuttles and safety services. Online: Phishing emails, fake texts, scare tactics—don’t bite, don’t click. If it’s “urgent” or too good to be true, it’s probably a scam. At a concert or other public place: Plan your exit strategy before you need it. In an unpredictable and often frightening world, Dannah Eve shows you how to weaponize your intuition—and back it up with real-world safety tactics that actually work. Because when you build confidence, you operate with authority—and that ripple effect can protect more than just you. About the author Dannah Eve is a trusted safety expert and digital creator known for her sharp instincts, real-world expertise, and engaging content that empowers women to navigate life with confidence. As a former D1 athlete and Summa Cum Laude graduate in Criminology and Psychology, she combines academic knowledge with street smarts to deliver life-saving insights to her rapidly growing audience of over 4 million followers across her social media platforms. Dannah’s content is equal parts informative and relatable, making safety feel approachable rather than overwhelming. As a mom, she’s passionate about sharing practical tips and personal experiences that resonate with the millions of loyal followers who turn to her for guidance. Her motto, live aware, not in fear, is the foundation of her mission. She lives in sunny Florida.

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the most amazing people. And then there's just some idiot with a mic and a host that shows up as well. Today, we have an amazing young lady on the show. And I think her topic of her book is definitely on point for some of the things we're having it in our world and some of the things going on the streets and danger and stuff like that and how to stay safe but we're going to get into it with her in a second. But in the meantime, we must guilt you, shame you and try to motivate you to harass your

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the crazy place they're in it. She has the latest book that's coming out. February 3rd, 2026, we're already in February. I'm still in January of last year. What's going on? Her book is entitled, Street Smarts, Trust Your Instincts, Outsmart Danger, and Stay Safe in a World That Isn't by Dana Eve. She'll be on the show with us today talking about her interests and all the stuff she developed in research in the book. She is a trusted safety expert and digital creator known for her sharp instincts, real world expertise, and engaging content that empowers women to navigate life with confidence. As a former D1 athlete and Summa Cum Load graduate in criminology and psychology, she combines academic knowledge with street smarts to deliver life-saving insights

to a rapidly growing audience of over four million followers across her social media accounts. Welcome to the show. Dana, how are you? I'm good. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for coming. We really appreciate it. Give us any dot coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs? You can find me at Dana underscore Eve on all social. So D-A-N-N-A-H just underscore EVE and Danaeve.com. Thanks, Dana. So please give us a 30,000 overview. What's inside your new book? You know what? It is a crazy world that we live in. And I wrote this book to empower women to move through the world with confidence and empower their instincts. And I think it's

honestly something that we all should read. You know, street smarts is a gift. And the more that you understand how to move through the world, the more powerful you will move through the world and the more confident you will as well. Power and confidence. This is your book. Now, I mentioned the bio, you help a lot of women. Is the book targeted towards men and women or just women? It's really targeted towards women, but, you know, I have had plenty of men read it, my dad being one of them. And, you know, I also had a former law enforcement agent read it. And there's, you know, there's something in this book for everyone, which is something that I think is really special.

Yeah. I mean, I'm a really big guy, six two. And I kind of built like a football player, a fat football player. The audience is like, yeah, he is. And so I had an event last month where I was going down for a hernia surgery. I was bringing my mom from Utah so that she could do the thing there in Las Vegas. say, you know, they just don't let you back on the streets. You got to release to somebody. And so I was bringing her down, and we had our car jumped by just a random homeless guy,

I don't know, who was at a gas station we stopped in. And he jumped in and was trying to start the car. And fortunately, I'd come back out of the bathroom about that time because I was kind of concerned. And I had to deal with it as situation. And fortunately, the cops have been watching him and as soon as he saw me coming, he jumped out of the car and ran off. But, you know, and he's to, and I probably should give a better background in that story. I know how to, I know how to look around and make people because usually marks or people are looking for marks that aren't paying attention, right? You probably know this. And I'll usually give people an eye to let them know I made them. Like all, and I remember giving him and I going, I see you there on the couch or on the,

the bench there by the building and I know I have your face now I know you and you know I give him that resting bitch face that I have and that seems to work most times but it didn't work this time so uh yeah danger can happen to anybody I mean he was willing to take me on um and he was just a little guy too that was the funny thing so danger can happen to guys and big guys and muscle guys and all that stuff too it's a it's a dangerous world these days absolutely I mean I say you know danger crime doesn't discriminate it can really happen anytime anywhere yeah and being aware is really important that's what kind of surprised me about this thing like I normally I'm always checking my perimeter I I give dirty looks to anybody who looks like they they might be hunting you know

and sociopaths will hunt I mean they'll they're looking for marks they're looking for people that are you know they're looking at their phone or they're just not paying attention and you know they're looking for those sort of people but yeah Let's see. So in this book, tell us about some of the things you talk about it. One of the terms you have is why Lai to Survive should be part of your safety toolkit. Talk to us about this. So Lida Survive is one of the foundations that I teach is something that I practiced my entire life. And it's crazy because the way it started was with my parents when I was a young girl. And we played it as a car game. My grandparents lived about four hours away so we'd hop in the car and we didn't

have cell phones back then or tablets. So my parents, made up games for us to play. And one of those games we called The Lion Game. And that kind of tied in with the what if game as well, where they would make me the main character of the story. And they would put me in situations like you're at a park and a man approaches you, you know, age old ploy, he has a puppy. And he says, come help me.

You know, like I lost the other puppy. I really need your help. Would you mind coming with me? And then they would allow me to think through the situation in a controlled and safe environment and ask questions. and I also learned how to lie my way out. So they would do the what if, then take it a step further to the lying game.

So then what would you say? First, it was what would you do? Then what would you say? And I realized, you know, at that time, I didn't know what they were really instilling in me. But that lying game, you know, served throughout my entire life in uncomfortable situations that I wanted to exit. You know, it just, it, it de-escalated situations and gave me a safe out. And I learned how powerful that was.

And, you know, people would be like, lying. Like, come on. that's what you preach. Like, that's ridiculous. And I'm like, no, listen, there's a, there's a strict boundary there. I'm not teaching you to be a liar. I'm not saying go lie to your family and your friends and your coworkers. You lie for your safety and I will literally die on that hill. So I needed, you know, a better name for it. And at the time when I started sharing my, my tips on social media, a lying game didn't necessarily have a ring to it. And I was a, I'm a big F1 fan. And we were watching Drive to Survive at the time. And I was like, what rhymes? And one night it clicked. I'm like,

well, Drive to Survive is a fun name. Let's just call it lie to survive. So lie to survive was born. But it's crazy how many women will write into me or email me and say, like, you know, I didn't understand the power of this where, you know, the society, especially like women deal with society a lot different, the way we move through the world where no is, should be a complete sentence, but it's not oftentimes it's challenge accepted. You know, lying your way out of a situation by saying, oh, my husband's meeting me or no, this isn't my home.

It just takes care of the situation right in it and then allows you, like I said, to have that safe out, that safe escape and empowers you to move through the world with, I have lying as a tool for safety. And it's really cool. Now, who was it that taught you this? You say it was your grandparent? My parents. My parents. You had good parents there. Yeah. And probably more parents should do that, especially with daughters. But even young boy, I mean, everybody really young in these days. I mean, this, you know, pedophilia seems to be everywhere. I mean, I was that show he used to watch all the time, Chris Hanson. And it's just extraordinary. when you hear about the stuff that goes on.

But, you know, I've, even me is a big guy who's got a resting bitch face and comes off, you know, I can own a room. I've been in the presence of predators, sociopaths, criminal sociopaths, that have not only done great, but assault in their criminal background when I checked it later. And it's really dangerous. These people have a violent nature, a dangerous nature. And so, yeah, that puppy thing in the park, you know, I like how you say, I believe this is what you say, you don't owe strangers transparency. You don't.

Yeah, exactly. You don't owe a stranger your truth, too. I say that all the time. You don't know somebody until you get to know somebody. You don't know their intentions. So it's better to just make something up on the spot. If they ask you say you're in an Uber and, you know, they're dropping you off as this home, just immediately, you know, lie. No, no, the answer is no.

Yeah. We had a, do you do anything like being careful what you post on social media that gives away your location or maybe the school location of your children and stuff like that? Oh my gosh. I talk about this all the time. You have to be so careful what you post online, especially, I mean, not only just on social media, but on your dating sites, you know, dating apps as well. Yeah, dating apps as well. You don't realize how much information you might be providing somebody. You could accidentally show them exactly where you live if your apartment buildings in the background and they could, you know, crop that picture, do a Google,

search and then all of a sudden they know where you live. So you have to be so mindful of what you're sharing out in the world. Yeah. And when bad stuff happens, the bad stuff happens. I mean, I've picked up one gal pal one time from the hospital who was, he almost, he was trying to kill her. And she found her, her spray at the last second as she was passing out. And yeah, I mean, I don't think I've ever seen anything so horrifically done to a human being and they're still alive as what I witnessed picking her up at the hospital. And it can go wrong in a minute. And so, yeah, you know, a lot of times, you know, we're all,

there's a lot of nice people in the world, I think. I think most of us are good, nice people. We care about each other. We don't, you know, I've come to a million people's rescue in danger. My dad kind of taught me. He set that example for me too. But, you know, I'm also on those people that I'm pretty open to everybody. but I also kind of do it to check people.

But, you know, and so sometimes we mistake that we, you know, maybe this stranger is another nice person like you or I. And they might not be. They might be a predator. They might be a sociopath. And they don't see people as people. They see people as objects. And they don't see them as human either. So, yeah, it's a really big deal.

And I like how you, you know, we all want to be nice, but there's sometimes where you're in a situation. where you're not nice and you got to understand what's going on and you got to read the room like as a as a man who's a provider protector even when I'm on dates I'm reading the room and I usually sit my dates in different places or in corners where we can read where I can watch the room and and where there's safety and and stuff because you just never know what sort of weird shit's going to go on nowadays somebody walk in a place with the gun or you just never know and you got to you just got to think about these things and it's not really paranoid Yeah. I think some people think, well, oh, you're just being paranoid. No, it's just plain simple, be aware. You know, I do a lot of street shooting photography. And so I have to be aware of what's around me in any given time. I'm carrying like $15,000 with a gear. And, and, you know, people come up on me and stuff. I've had, I've had lots of crazy transience. You know, they're out of their mind, sadly. And, you know, sometimes they take an aggressive approach to me because they think that I'm maybe filming them or doing something and whatever

their paranoia is. So yeah, you got to, you really have street smarts and be aware of the world that's around you. And too many of these people, I don't know what you think about this, too many of these people are like this all day long. They're just walking around in public. And I've even done that and found myself, and I'm like, wait, I'm in some sort of situation here. And I need to be aware. What's your thoughts on that where people just so into their phones and devoid of what's going on around them. It's a big problem. And I always say a distracted person is a very easy target. And we walk around and you are just, you see it all the time. People are glued to their phones. They're scrolling in social media. They're answering text messages and they have no

idea who and what's around them. And that right there opens you up to be vulnerable. And people don't understand that simply being aware is your best first line of defense at the end of the day and can deter God knows what. And you espouse that live aware, not in fears. I think. one of your axioms. Exactly. Yeah, that's the, you know, that's the core of everything that I do, because you can get paranoid. You know, if you turn on the news, it's all you have to do. And so we know what's out there. And I do, I do believe that the world is mostly good, but you can't be an ostrich and bury your head in the sand. You have to know that evil is out there and evil walks among us. So if you live with the mentality of I'm going to be aware of that, I'm going to educate myself,

I'm going to have the layers of defense and the tools and the awareness. I'm going to be able to handle a situation if God forbid it presents itself but if you're distracted you have no idea what's coming do you teach uh do teach people maybe to take defensive classes like karate or jesus or some sort of you know defensive uh instructions or classes or uh how does that fit into your what you do there in the book you know absolutely i don't preach that often a if you know i've been asked that question a ton i think it's highly beneficial i think for confidence more than anything thing. But, you know, the, when it boils down to being a woman in the world that we live in, physiologically, men are much bigger and stronger than us. So I always say,

hand-to-hand combat is the last resort. You don't want to let anybody close to you. So I always preach, you know, awareness being number one, but then having layers of defense. And I say, carry something that you are comfortable and most importantly confident and trained using. And there's a wide range out there. So that's, that's what I preach. And that's what I believe in and practice myself. A lot of times, I see, you know, women can usually get locked in fight or flight, like a deer in the headlights mode. And they're trying to be socially nice and, you know, they're not as aggressive in assholes like we are. We're designed to be disagreeable.

Women are designed to be agreeable. And so I'll see a lot of times in situations, I have a big 5,000 member dating group. And so we have events where we go to and, you know, people can actually date the old world style or meet up the old. world style and you know sometimes there's a guy being aggressive or there's there's you know he's he's got her cornered I've been cornered by women so that's uh to where I've been blocked into a situation where I can't escape and I actually we actually have to have security for me for those reasons and uh you know people that I can just be like hey come over here and get me away from this person but you know men like you say are it can be aggressive and everything else and sometimes I'll see women just become

deer in headlights and they'll lock up and stay. And sometimes the best thing for them to do is to move and get out and not do that lock up. I've been known to do that as a man too in predator situations where I've locked down a little bit. But that's kind of the heavy that they hit you with when they're when they're being overly pushy. I don't know. That's just that's just my observations from my angle. No, absolutely. And that's again, that's back to the what if game and being aware and prepared where you think through these situations before you find yourself in them. So, I mean, I've had girlfriends where they've been on a date and, you know, they've been asked like a weird question and they freeze.

And it wasn't a dangerous situation, which taught them that I didn't know how to react in this. So I'm like, okay, well, let's play this through. And once you start putting yourself in these situations and you start thinking, okay, what's my exit? I have lie to survive now as a tool. I don't owe, you know, I don't owe my truth. You give yourself the ability to then know what to do in these situations should you

find yourself in one where you're not. no longer freezing, you have trained yourself. Now I know how to act. I know how to exit. I know how to escape. See, for for for me, if somebody, you know, comes off for something weird to me and it clicks with me, I'm going to I'm going to change modes and I'm going to turn to them and be like, what the fuck did you say? And right away, that person's going to be like, oh. So yeah, a lot of a lot of women, I'll sometimes see that freezing and that stuff. And then I'll see them locked into a situation. And as a host, you know, I've thrown a lot of parties at my house, three or 400 people. I've thrown, we, you know, we throw these events. And I've seen a lot of this where,

you know, whether it's a man or woman, they'll be overly aggressive in dating and hitting on somebody or whatever. You know, we get a lot of reports to from the dating group. I think we've had some people that have dated some bad people and we, we've both them from the group. But that's a big deal. You know, I don't know if you talk about this on the show, but one of the disappointing things I see on the internet is women saying that all men are bad, all men are aggressive, all men are a danger, men are 100% danger to women all the time. And really, in a lot of these cases, they have, I've been cornered too by women, but they'll corner you into a situation where it's hard to get out and they're talking

you're off so you can't cut them off. and so grabbing another guy, if you grab just a guy, a lot of guys will come to your thing. You know, you can reach out to a guy, you can grab them, or you can point at one and wave them over. You know, most of us are designed as men to be protectors of women. I mean, we protect the womb. That's kind of what we do with the propagation of species. You know, there's lots of guys that run in to save women who are being attacked or attempted

murder or anything else that goes on in danger to them that they don't know and they'll they'll get themselves killed i mean that's kind of we're built to defend women and so i don't know if you espouse that to women that you know being afraid of all men number one is bad uh and number two you can actually use a lot of men i've had women you know signaled to me hey uh i'm in distress come over here um i've you know like i say my dad taught me that he's there i would see he would see women that were in distress or getting beaten and were, you know, in heavy arguments where clearly the guy was being aggressive and, and he would step in. And so, you know, I don't know if you espouse that, but that's just an idea because this narrative that all men are bad and evil and a danger

to women is really just wrong. No, it's 100% wrong. And, you know, it's crazy as my dad played that role as well. And I witnessed it growing up and I've heard stories. And it's just, it's really wonderful to know that that is the majority of men. So there is this false, you know, false idea of like all men are bad and we should be, you know, fearful of men. But even when I teach lie to survive, one of the tactics that I teach is my husband, my boyfriend, you use a male figure and strategically place that because that's immediately intimidating to the other person. So by saying my husband knows where I am, my husband's on his way, you know, my boyfriend's whatever you want to say, my dad, my brother, by placing that malfigure,

figure in the situation, in the story, immediately that person's going, oh boy, now there's a threat here. So absolutely, and that's a strategy that women 100% should lean into. I myself, when we were, when I was on spring break, I'll never forget this senior year. I was in a situation where there was this really creepy dude. I was 17. He was probably in his 40s and he was following me around a bar in Mexico. And I walked over to one of my guy friends and I like was like, put your arm around me, like act like you're my boyfriend. And he did. And the guy immediately had nothing to do with me at that point. And the guy was like, my friend was six, six. Like, he was this big, strong guy. And I was like, you know, I strategically picked him out. And I was like,

that's where I'm going. But it's, it's an amazing tool. And you're right. Men are willing to help. And most men want to protect women. So knowing that and feeling that that's an option, I always say, like, if you're in a store and you feel that you're being followed, ask to be walked out to your car, get in a bar, go to the bouncer, go to the bartender. That's, that's a safety tool. Do you know what I mean, like knowing that and having that knowledge and leaning on men in situations can get you out safely and absolutely. I mean, I am all for that. Yeah. I mean, wave a guy over, signal a guy, you know, pretend like you know him. Just wave to him and say, hey, come here. And so if, you know, some guys in your face being weird and all that, you know, aggressiveness, have the guy come over.

And, you know, you'll see things change. And you'll see like, hey, I'm, you know, you can pretend like you know him. And sometimes guys will play along. I mean, I've had, I've had women do that to me. A lot of times when I'm hosted, my events, I'm watching the room. I'm making sure that no one's being overly aggressive or weird, making sure people aren't cornered, making sure everyone's happy. Usually you can tell on women's faces when they're scared and they're in that frozen sort of situation where they don't know what to do and the guys there. This is kind of one of the other things.

I think it was a tip that you had, living alone, keep a pair of men's shoes by the door. Is that on the outside of the door or the inside door? Yeah, right on the outside of the door. I mean, I lived alone in many cities and I always pretended like I had a male roommate or lived with, you know, a partner. And it's amazing what that does. Like I would have a workman coming to the house and I don't know this guy. You know, I'm sure he's a nice individual. But at the end of the day, I have no idea and I'm going to be alone in the house with him.

So I used to do things crazy like turning the bathroom light on in the shower and closing and locking the door. When the guy came, I would knock on the door and be like, hey, babe, Joe's here from whatever company. I would like make something up. And then he thought that there was a man in the house. You know, obviously you have to be strategic because if it's a longer visit than this guy's in the shower for three hours, it's not necessarily believable. But having a conversation on the phone could do the same thing. Like, hey, like stop by whenever and make sure that, you know, the person's on speaker,

they know what's going on. You've texted them, be like, hey, I'm going to call you and have this conversation to make it, you know, make this workman think that you're coming over soon. It just, it's the illusion that there's this male presence or, you know, someone will be coming. And it just is a layer of protection. it's a really strategic tool to use. Yeah.

I know how security and safety is for a lot of women feeling safe. I think a lot of men really don't understand the depth of it and how far it goes with you guys that really feeling safe. Because we have, we have, we're regressable and disagreeable by nature. That's our, that's our way. So, you know, calling men into help or leaving the boots, I love that idea. Or, you know, hey, my boyfriend's in the bathroom right now. If you're at a bar, you know, whatever the case may be.

And there's, I know, I know men, I'm a men of men. And 98, 97%, 99% of guys would come to a woman's aid if she asked for help or whatever. She passed a note, a bartender. I mean, just any guy in a bar, really. And most guys, you know, our captain's savior kicks in. And we go, oh, there's a woman who needs some help here. And it's just, it's part of our, it's part of our biology. I mean, the reason we have women and children.

first get off the boat is because preserving the womb, preserving the propagation of the species. So we have like this natural, like when you guys need help, we have this natural thing that just kicks in and goes, I'll save you. And that's what we want. You know, we don't want women being destroyed by sociopaths and evil people. But I like your vacation notes too. Walk with confidence, strong stride, a distracted person's easy target. That's one of the things I always try and that's why I always had that perimeter look. know we just mark people that I've seen you I know your face I've seen you I know your face I've seen you in a face I don't like the way you're looking at me I know you're hunting I'm not your I'm not your person you may want to bugger off um sometimes I've been aggressive with those because I

know someone's in the in in an area that they're they're up to no good and I'll just give them a look like you should beat it and get the fuck out of here um and you know guys we have ways that we signal that sort of stuff and dominance and alpha male and all that kind of kind of crap that we let people know. And, you know, those guys will usually, you know, defer because they're looking for weak people. When they meet a strong person, they're like, oh, I'm out of here. But, you know, I've met guys that are taller than me, they're sociopaths. And yeah, there's something about our height that we can use. It's a level of aggressiveness. And you've got, you've got some really successful TikTok channels and Instagram channels. I don't know if you

want to promote those while you're here. Yeah, Dana underscore Eve. That's where I started all of this, which is so crazy because, you know, I, my background's criminology and psychology. And when I was studying, I wanted to go to Quantico. Like I wanted to be a federal agent. That's what I was going to do. And I ended up, you know, there's a whole story. I kind of get into it in my book. But I came across a professor who was former Secret Service. And two weeks before I was that to graduate, we had a conversation that ultimately changed the trajectory of my career. You know, he pointed out that I was. was a very deeply feeling person, which I knew, but seeing it, you know, for him in, you know, a professional sense, he was thinking he was worried about my mental health long term. You know, when you're a Fed and you have the case files, you know, it's really hard to go home sometimes and compartmentalize that. And I really can't compartmentalize things. And he just pointed that out to me. So it made me kind of take a step back. And I was like, you know what? Wow, I didn't really see this. You know, I, my mental health matters. And, you know, I do carry things with me. I am

deeply empathetic and I have the ability to feel a lot deeper than, you know, most people. So he was, you know, I'm very thankful for him for that. And my book is actually dedicated to Chuck Barthas's name. And, you know, I lost him at the talent of COVID unexpectedly. And ever since I made that pivot away from becoming a federal agent, I had a hole in my heart. And I always had Chuck to kind of talk to about, you know, all of that and stay in that world. And once I lost him, I realized just how much I missed it. And, you know, I was like, I'm not doing anything with this hardened degree. And so a couple catalysts happened. And, you know, one was a mass shooting in my hometown. I had become a mother. So, like, it changed my perspective of the world a little bit, you know, as well. You have this

innocent human being. And you're like, wow, there is, you know, you see the evil through a different lens. And shortly after that, you know, the, the Idaho four happened. And I just, again, I couldn't get these cases out of my head. And I sat and it just was killing me. I would sit thinking about them and going over, you know, like all the information and just what could have been, you know, what could have been done here? What could have saved these kids? And I just remember bawling one night to my husband being like, I have all of this information backed by, you know, by my own life experience, my degree and, you know, all the people I was lucky enough to cross pass with along the way like Chuck. And I'm not doing anything with it. So I took to social media and that was the easiest way in my mind

to get the information out there. And I started sharing. sharing it. And it's crazy because I never meant for this to happen. You know, I never planned for this. I just took to social media and the hope that I could help one person or prevent a family from experiencing a tragedy and it snowballed. And it's, it's crazy because I'm now doing what I was meant to do and doing what I'm very good at and passionate about in a way that I would have never imagined. So it's a full circle moment for sure. I'm glad you are. I mean, there's, there's just more danger now in the world and there's more desperate people, it seems. You know, there's more robberies of cars like in San Francisco.

You see that, you know, they just break the windows and seal the luggage. You talk about a lot of different things. Online fishing scams at school. I don't know if you talk about this. We had a security person on the show about 15, 10 years ago or so. We're really old. And one of the things they were concerned about was protecting their child and, you know, not taking pictures of the school, you know, where they're standing next to their school name.

out there in the front and giving you know giving instances where someone could you know be a predator's the children and one of the things they were doing was turning off the on most cameras your ex-fill will give away your ex-if file at eXIF is a file that is part of the data of your photo and in that photo a lot of people have location turned on usually when you you know you sign up with your phone Do you want location turned on? And they turn on location. Well, any smart predator can look at a photo if you can get a hold of, if the X-filled data is on there. I'm not sure if Facebook maintains the face, the X-filled data.

But if they can find the photo, they can get your location from that X-filled data. And so that's a danger as well. You know, you just have to think about all these things because, you know, it's a crazy world we live in. Let me ask you this. one of the biggest things that I see, I'm writing a book right now on dating and with my big dating groups is not a lot of, this massiveness of hookup culture. Dating has just become hookup culture. So you're probably familiar what goes on there. But one of the problems I see is I have huge what we call Chad groups. And these chat groups are the chads that all the women

are frequenting. Basically, you have 99% of women dating the top one. percent of men or at least the good looking steroid boys. And it's really interesting to me. There is little to know safety checks that women are doing when they go see these guys. They're literally like, they're literally, I mean, the conversation goes like this. Hi, you're really hot. Can I come over tonight and bang you? Oh, yeah, sure.

Yeah, the guy says. And that's it. I know, they're not checking any crime backgrounds. And some of the complaints we've seen in the marketplace is there's a couple violent chads out there. I mean, these guys aren't steroids. I'm not throwing everybody's on steroids into having an anger issue management, but there's some of them that, you know, we had reports of where they had to go to the police for assault and stuff. So I don't know if you touch on that, but if you, if you don't, I mean, just a suggestion that they really should check these guys out. Oh my gosh.

No, you know what? I have a whole, I have a whole chapter in my book on dating series. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy what, you know, some women are willing to do and put themselves in these situations and something that I always preach is, you know, one, do your homework. Like, check this person out. If you've met somebody online, you've got to check them out. And something else that I always talk about is never isolate yourself with somebody that you just met. So you want to go meet somebody on a first date. Go somewhere like a bar or a restaurant. It's well lit, public, populated, you know, you never want to go on a hike or to their apartment. You also want to be strategic where, you're, you know, you also want to be strategic where, you're, you're, you're a little bit. You're. You also want to be strategic where, you don't want to let anybody know where you live. So even if they're like, let me pick you up in the first date, you're like, no, thanks, I'm coming from work. I'll meet you there. And you don't give somebody the ability to have your home address. And it's the same thing going home.

I had like, when I was in the dating world, I had a guy that was, he was being very sweet and very kind, but I didn't know this person. I had just met him. And he was like, let's share an Uber home. And I was like, absolutely not in my head. I'm like, no, that's, I'm basically showing you exactly where to find me. And it's just being strategic and getting to know somebody and not, you know, putting yourself in a dangerous situation. And the dating world is crazy. Something else that I talk about

all the time. And it's, it's an easy thing to do. If you are interested in somebody, do a FaceTime date first. Do a vibe check. Make sure that one, the person is who they say they are. Make sure everything checks out. And make sure that most importantly, they make you feel safe and comfortable so that you're willing to them be like, yeah, let's do dinner. So the hookup culture is something that, you know, you got to be so careful. Even, you know, I'm not prudish or like saying like, don't have a one night stand, don't do this, but from a safety point of view, if you go home with somebody at the end of the night and you're under the influence where you don't have a clear, you know, your head on your shoulders and you're not thinking clearly and you're going to this person's apartment or home or

whatever, you are opening yourself up to danger. You know, odds are, you know, most people, you're going to come across somebody and it's just going to be a fun night yet, absolutely, but the evil is out there. So opening that door is not a risk you should take. That's my approach. And I don't know if you cover this part, but one of the the things that women think they're being safe is they have these groups called, Are We Dating the same guy? And I have, see, I have the one side of dating, the normal side of dating, and then I have the Chad groups. So I get to see all the messages. I get to hear about the action.

I mean, these guys are going through 30, 60 women a month, and they're jacked up on Roids, so they have ways of, you know, doing two to three girls a day. And it's just insane. The messages that I see from women just throwing themselves at them. I mean, on top of that, They usually ask not to wear condoms. And so we have like an 800% sexual disease, STD thing going on right now, 800% explosion of it across the nation. But it turns out that these groups that are supposed to be safe for women, are we dating the same guys, are just Chad directories?

Like literally the girls that are in those groups will find the chat that they like and they'll have like, oh, this guy's real asshole, he's born, you know, whatever, yada, yada. They will call up the Chad and send him screenshots and read that and then go sleep with them. It's actually a chat directory rather than a safety directory. It's so insane to be on the other side and see this whole thing. So I don't know if you ever broached that with your audience, but some ideas of you. Oh, my gosh. And thank you for sharing that because, you know, I've been out of the dating world.

Thank God after hearing this for so long. But my gosh, that's wild. That is insane. The groups, they have the groups nationwide. are we dating the same guy locally? And so they'll post a guy and, you know, some girl will be like, oh, he did this, he did this. And a lot of times it's not essay or anything violent.

It's just, you know, she's angry because he didn't call her back or something. Or, you know, she gave him sex and was hoping it would turn to a relationship. And, yeah, they just, they're literally just Chad directories. And I've had women in my group go, no, this is for safety, Chris. No, it's for safety. And I'm like, no, I'm seeing your message is the Chad's right now. And yeah, I don't see any safety here. Honestly, I have to, like, that's, that's like a case study.

That's, like, fascinating to me because I just, that blows my mind. And what I would say to all of that is, like, ladies, let's do better. Like, you know what I mean? Like, let's do better here. Because there are guys. We've, I mean, I banned a ton of guys out of my group because they're either aggressive or we've had reports of abuse. And even if, even if they don't take it to the level of turning it into a thing, I just

kick the person and I take a good look at them. And I kind of am good at assessing people. So, Dana, anything more we need to know about the book before we head out? No. I mean, first off, thank you so much for having me. My hope for this book is that after women read this book, they just feel empowered to move through the world in a confident way. And they know that they have the power to live their life, but live their life with a street smart, you know, head on their shoulders. And something funny to this, this book was originally going to be called Street Smart's University because I wanted to kind of play into like once you read this book, you're going to have a degree in Street Smarts. We ended up dropping university because we didn't

want it to make it seem like it was only for college kids. But that's really what it is. You read this book, the information, you're going to retain it. It's easily digestible. And you're going to feel so empowered with the way that you move through the world. And that's my hope. And I hope every woman reads this book. Yeah. I mean, and it's good for men too. I mean, I've had women assault me. I've had women. even breaking into my home. I've had all sorts of wild shit going on with the chicks. But, you know, I don't know. I guess I really drive him crazy. What can I say? But no, I, some of the things I see in the dating world with hookup culture is really disturbing. I don't see any security

going on. I mean, sometimes they're coming over within an hour. So I doubt anybody's checking the, you know, there's, I don't know if you saw this, but there was a guy recently. He's a really good-looking guy. You know, super, you know, he's one of those guys, right? And he's a, I think he's a male model to, you know, or if he's not, he should be. And he made up this post just to see what would happen. He made up a post with his picture on like Tinder or something, but he admitted that he had essay charges and, and abused women, and it kind of wrote an aggressive post. He was flooded with women throwing themselves at him, even though he had admitted. in the post that he had an essay

charges and background and stuff like that. And that was really shocking. And then when I saw what's going on with the Chads and Hook of Culture, I went, Jesus is crazy, man. It seems like we're throwing all sorts of safety out the window to

some of the stuff. Anyway, thank you, Dana, and just giving you some ideas. I'm an idea, man. So, yeah, but I love what you're doing. I'll share our book with the dating group and all that good stuff too as well, because we want women to be safe.

Please do. We like women. We really do. We want you guys to be safe and have babies that you want, not somebody else's. Anyway, thanks Dana for coming on the show.

Give us your dot coms and final pitch out wherever people can find you where is on the internet. So on social, Dana underscore Eve, D-A-N-H-E-V-E-E-E-E-V-com. Thank you, Dana, for coming the show.

We really appreciate it. And I love your book. I should have been reading that when I did my surgery a month ago. Well, thank you so much for having me. Thank you. And thanks, John, us for tuning in. Order up our book where refined books are sold.

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