The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Surviving Breast Cancer – My Personal Story: Your Breasts Are Not Worth Dying For by Ady Iribhogbe

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Surviving Breast Cancer - My Personal Story: Your Breasts Are Not Worth Dying For by Ady Iribhogbe https://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Breast-Cancer-Personal-Breasts/dp/B0FKCQVDQK This story is about cancer survival fueled with love. The love of our heavenly Father who promises never to leave us nor forsake us in every season of our lives, whether good times or bad. The love of a devoted husband who loved his wife unconditionally. Even when her chest had been amputated, he loved and stood by her in sickness and in health. The unconditional love of two amazing children who are not affected by how their mother looks. They are just happy to see her, hug her, and cuddle with her. As long as there is life, there is hope for healing and strength for tomorrow. The lifelong love of my brothers, my siblings who always come running when I call from whatever corner of the country they are, and when they come, they do not come alone. They come with their amazing wives and children to show me and my family their love and support, and above all, they pray with us and for us. This story is fueled by the corporate love of our church family and our Christian school family, our brothers and sisters in Christ who bombard us with visits, loving and encouraging messages, and meals prepared with love that warms your soul. This is a story of how you can overcome in the middle of the struggles of life when surrounded by sisterly love from my sisters from another mother, my sisters in Christ, and my sisters for life. This is a story of how the love of God saved me, rescued me from the hands of a deadly disease, and transformed me back to the land of the living. When you read what I have experienced, you will know why I had to share this amazing story of survival with all of you, my fellow humans. I am a woman of faith who has faced many adversities in life, and through it all, God, my Creator, has always been by my side. His promise to never leave me nor forsake me is true and evident in my life. Eight years ago when I got a diagnosis of breast cancer and my whole world was turned upside down, my faith in God, the love of a wonderful husband, my beloved children, family, and friends saw me through a terrible ordeal. I am alive today because of God being on my side, the miracle of modern medicine, and an amazing healthcare team of experts. I did not only survive breast cancer. I am living and thriving after breast cancer, and if God did it for me, He will do it for you too.

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Today, we have an amazing young lady on the show. We're going to be talking about her insights and everything else. We have Addie Erie Hobie on the show. Did I get that right, Addy? Yes, you did. Excellent. I'm working on it. I'm good. I'm getting good.

the pronunciations. What is the origin is that? Is that? In the West African. West Africa. So we're just doing international show on the Chris Fos show. You got to love it. So she's the author of the latest book to come out, July 16th, 2025, called Surviving Breast Cancer.

My personal story, your breasts are not worth dying foreigners. You're joking before the show. I know some guys that have probably died for a breast or two. But that's a different story. So we're going to get into her book, her insights, and all that good stuff, and how maybe she can help you? Because everyone tends to get different cancers and different things these days. And, of course, knowing how to navigate these things and everything else is really important. She is a 53-year-old woman of African descent, hailing from Nigeria, West Africa.

She is American-born and American-educated, and she's a registered nurse by profession. She's been a wife for 17 years and is now a widow with two young children. She is a born-again Christian who loves God, his son, Jesus Christ, with all our heart, and lives a life led by the Holy Spirit. She is a daughter, sister, auntie, godmother, friend, and neighbor to a loving community. She sounds wonderful. We have her on the show. Her goal is to be a blessing to all of humankind and make disciples for Jesus. Welcome to the show, Eddie.

How are you? I am great. Thank you so much, Chris Voss, for having me on this show today. Yeah. Super excited to talk with you today. We're excited to have you as well. And what a wonderful bio. Most bios are always about,

oh, I'm the greatest thing that ever lived, and yours is just, like, just wonderfully humble. Give us a dot-coms for you. Where can people find you on the interwebs? Yeah, so my book is on Amazon. So if you go to Amazon and you just type in Eddie or a hovey, you'd be able to get the book there. Covenant Books is the publisher of the books.

So if you go to Covenant Books.com, you should be able to find the book there as well. So give us a $30,000 over you, what your book is about. Yeah. So about 10 years ago, So I found a lump in my breast that I thought was probably nothing. But when I went to get getting checked out within a month, it turned out it was the diagnosis of breast cancer.

Devastating, pull the rug out of under my feet. And just the whole process of what I had to go through. First of all, advocacy to try to get my doctors to listen, that there was actually something wrong. And then getting, you know, all the referrals that was required. and then treatment and the family support by faith and just everything that is involved in the whole process is not just the health part is the finances is your job is your family your children your husband your you know your relatives it's just so many things that's involved in it so I just wanted to share that story to try to inspire someone to let them know that hey even if

get a diagnosis of cancer doesn't always end in death God is good and he will heal his people. Yes, sir. And we're glad you're here. We're glad you survived it. So let's get into some more details. How big was the lump when you first found it? Was that can you give a size to it or maybe some explanation of, you know, because I want people that maybe if they're like, well, I kind have a lump too. I wonder, you know. Yeah, absolutely. I felt it and I felt like it was like a grape size, like an oblong grape size. I could touch it. I could roll it around. I could feel it with my hands. It was on one side. It wasn't on the other side. And so I called my husband in and said, hey, come, come check this out.

You know, and just like you said, I had a husband who was greatly impressed with breasts, my breast. And he, you know, he felt it. And he was like, well, yeah, I feel that too. And immediately I just felt a sense of urgency to get it checked out because it hadn't been there before. And I'd had a mammogram a year before. Once you turned over 40, especially in the military health care system, they offer you mammograms. And so my previous mammogram was normal, was normal. And so for me to find this lump in my breast that I could feel that I could touch, that it was palpable, I need to get it checked out.

And, you know, a lot of, and I think maybe you were able to get early detection. Is that where you were in that state? Yeah, absolutely. And they say that's really important in cancer diagnosis is a real detection. Absolutely. Absolutely. Elid detection is very, very important. Doing self-breast exams is very important. And fortunately for me, I had just had my son, and so I was breastfeeding.

And so when you're breastfeeding, a lot of women were particularly obsessed with our breast during that. And so I believe that my son saved my life because if I wasn't breastfeeding, I probably wouldn't have paid as much attention to my breast as I did. And so I found that lump, and I think I attribute him as one of my miracles. And, you know, you have to be mindful of these things. I mean, especially as you grow older. There's all sorts of fun you have with doctors and hospitals when you get older. I'm enjoying that process right now. But I've got a good doctor.

Yeah, yeah. Hospitals. Yeah, there are lots of doctors out there. I owe my life to a lot of brilliant doctors who have taken care of me for the past 10 years. And then you talk about advocating for yourself. this is a big issue we talk about with doctors on the show and people in the medical community that come on the show and of course people like yourself who've been on the consumer side of it I've got my horror stories you know it's it's crazy you know trying to get

diagnosed right trying to get you know the like you said past all the referrals I'm like how many referrals do we need to know you know my my arms cut off and I'm just holding it here it's pretty obvious what happened do we really need a referral for this Yes, we do. So unfortunately, the way our health care system is set up is that you have to either go through the emergency room or go through your primary care doctor. And if you go through your primary care doctor for something that is not so horrific as an arm falling off, but like a lump in your breast, you know, you can't just go from primary care to a mammogram to surgical oncology or medical oncology. You got to go through primary care. And you got to get that primary care doctor to believe you, to live. listen to you, to examine you, to examine you, that lump themselves. And so, and then they're the gatekeeper. They are the ones who determine where you go further from that point on. If they say, oh, it's nothing and you just kind of walked out of that appointment and you didn't

do anything, you didn't get that referral from mammogram, you didn't get to go see any other specialist, a breast specialist, for example, then you would have kind of gone on three months, six months. And before you know it, a stage two will become stage four. And by the time you finally starts noticing maybe a wound on your chest, it's already stage four. And then six months later, you're dead and buried. So I'm glad you found it early. And I imagine that's what inspired you write this book. That was one of the questions someone gave me. And clearly, it's an inspiration for the book. Is the book only for women? That's an important question. So no, this book is not only for women because breast cancer affects not only women, but all the people and all the men

in their lives that love them. My husband was a pivotal part of my process. He was the first one that I called into the shower to come and feel that lump. And so it just doesn't only affect the woman. It is the husband who's married to that woman who loves his wife dearly. It is the children that the woman has, this baby that I was breastfeeding, that I had to abruptly stop breastfeeding because now I have cancer in my breast, I can't feed my baby with that with that rotten breast anymore. And so it's everyone. It's everyone. Yeah. I didn't even think about that. Absolutely. Absolutely. You can't, you can't give your baby a cancerous breast to suck on, you know, so yeah. And, you know, men get it too. I think, I think they both get it the same. I don't

know the stats and date on it. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's an important thing we don't want people dying of any cancer is evil in my book. Especially if you can find it early and kind of sort of preempt, you know, and stop it in its tracks. There is 1% I think is the statistics that it says that affects men worldwide. And that's about 20,000 cases every year worldwide. So what is the next step? If I'm out there listening in the audience and I'm like, you know,

I have had that little roll around thing. I can feel there's something there. And, yeah, I always do that. I mean, with me or my dogs, you know, anytime we find a lump or something, I'm like, is that on the other side? Is there a matching? And if there's not, you kind of worry about it because you're like, that's kind of an anomaly.

Yeah, yeah. You know, I removed my kidneys because they were just on the one side or my liver was on the one side because I just thought it was kind of weird that there was only one, but that was a bad idea. No, I'm just kidding. Don't do that, folks. Yeah, that's so. So what's next after mammogram?

What journey do people have to take or, you know, give them an over-you if you could? Yeah. So after a mammogram actually confirms the lump that you were able to find, in my case, it confirmed that I had a lump, and it also confirmed that I had what they call microcosifications, little dots around the image of the breast that was seen on the mammogram. And so the next thing they wanted, what they did was to do an ultrasound. An ultrasound confirms more definitively that what is there is abnormal. And then the next steps after an ultrasound is a biopsy. There are multiple three types of breast biopsy that are done. All three of them includes jabbing a needle into your breast and getting breast tissue out and then sending it to a pathology lab where a pathologist who is an expert in identifying abnormal cells will look at those cells.

under a microscope and do all their testing and they will doubt determine whether this cells that they're that they took taking out and jabbed out of your breast is indeed cancer biopsy yeah yeah so do a biopsy they get to test and see now with your course of action people of course need to read the book to find out the details but what was your choice for breast surgery removal or what are so many other options women have? Right. So depending on the type of breast cancer that you have, if you have what they call a ductal casinoma in situ, which is it's contained, right, and have the option of just

doing a lumpectomy, which is like a breast preservation type of surgery, where they just kind of go in and take a portion of the breast out. But for my case, further testing that I had to do after my biopsy was because I didn't have any family history. I didn't have any reason for this to be happening at an early, I was 44 at the time. And so I had to do what they called genetic testing.

My genetic testing now came back and said that I had Braca one gene, which is the breast cancer gene that is not only responsible for breast cancer, but it's also responsible for ovarian cancer. For me, genetically, it was

not just that I was going to have cancer. It wasn't a matter of if. It was a matter of if, it was a out of when it was going to happen. But I had no clue and I had no idea because I guess in my African family history, that was not one of the things that was discussed. That was not one of the things that I anticipated that I was going to be dealing with at age 44. So because I had the bracket one gene, I had to have a double radical double mastectomy, basically taking off both breasts because again, like I said, if genes, the genetic testing says you're going to a high breast cancer, the best thing to do

is cut the head of the snake and get it all, just get it all cut off and just be done with it. That's what I do, for me, for me. There you go. That's got to be a hard decision to make for a woman. It is. It is a very, very hard decision to make. And imagine you talk

about the book and how you mentally navigated that, or emotionally and navigate that as well. Absolutely. And, but, I mean, you know, it's you want to be around for your family. You want to see your kids graduate. You want to, you know, live a full life. Yes, sir. That seems to be

important to everybody. And so, you know, sometimes you got to make decisions. Yeah. That's why, that's why I sold my teenagers off to your Chinese organ harvest. Because I need to be new BMW. And, you know, I'm sure they'll understand. You can live without two kidneys. You know, I mean, it's funny, you know, that you say that the body, God created us in such a miraculous, way that he did give us some things that we can live without. You can't live without your brain. You can't live without your heart. I know some people doing that on Twitter, though, with the brain.

You can live without an arm and a leg and one kidney can be gone. You can live on one liver, you know, you can live without your prostate, you know. They can take that out and you're still fine. You can live with one bottle of vodka a day. Yeah, absolutely. I learned that lesson. Absolutely. Well, the other option that they do,

offer you, Chris, to kind of make you feel not so horrible about this, you know, heavy decision is breast reconstruction, right? You know, I had a long surgery that included not just the surgical oncologist who took off my breast, but I had a plastic surgeon who came in after him to try to reconstruct a, you know, two new breasts for me. And the process was going to be they put in a cadaver tissue. They put in tissue expanders into the space where they've taken out the breast and then you have to go to the plastic surgeon at least about you know every week to get it inflated until you get to the size where you want to be yeah yeah they can do that and so a lot of people a lot of women do it for cosmetic reasons you know people who are trying to you know who are actors and and their and their breasts is

their you know a focus of their industry and what they do they do do that electively, but in this case with breast cancer, they do offer breast reconstruction as part of these, you know, a solution to say, hey, even though we're taking off your breast, but here's an option. The problem with that, though, Chris, is that it doesn't always work. I had failed reconstruction. My, you know, I was, I was, I was committed to the process. I let, you know, them do insert everything that they needed to insert, the tissue cadaver, the breast, expanders and all that. And I was going in and getting it inflated. But Chris, I felt like my head was being pulled to my chest. I had the worst headache of my life. And then the cells, you know,

on that left side started to get red, inflamed, swollen, painful. That it just was, it was, it was, I was miserable. I was more miserable than it was worth for me. And then they put you on a timeline, Chris, right? Because when you when you get your diagnosis, now it's like, a race to the finish line, right? There's a whole lot of things that has to be done, not just surgery, but then they'll decide chemo based on how many lymph nodes

they were able to get out of your breast. If those lymph nodes were positive, then you're definitely going to need chemotherapy. And then that chemotherapy has to be done within a six-week period. And so you have to heal from surgery within six weeks. You can't have any complications. You can't have any delay in your,

process because you know you cannot miss your timetable and your schedule so when i started to have the issues with my reconstruction failing it was going to put me behind and so we had to make a decision which one is more important is it my life or is it this reconstruction and fake boobs so we decided to abort my husband and i discussed it and said you know what we don't need this reconstruction let's just go back in take everything out and we'll figure that out later let's just be on time and on schedule so I can start chemo at the within the six-week mark. Oh, wow. How long did you have to do chemo?

Chemo was five months, 20 weeks. That was the hardest thing I've ever had to do, Chris. Pimo scared me to death, literally. I'd be scared too. Yeah, absolutely. You read in my bio that I am a nurse, and so I've worked in the hospital. Oh, yeah. I've taken care of patients who, or going through chemo,

who are coming into the heart and vascular center where I work with heart complications related to chemo. And so that was my biggest prayer is that my heart will be strong enough to withstand it. They actually do an echocardiogram for you before you start chemo as a prerequisite to see whether you would, you could do, you could withstand it or not. And so, yeah, it's not just the fact that you lose your hair and you lose your eyebrows and you lose your nails and so many other things, you know, nausea, vomiting, weight loss and all these things that come along with the side effects of chemo. But the impact on your heart is real. And once you, you know, like we mentioned earlier, as we were joking, you only have one heart. If you lose that heart and that heart goes into heart failure, literally you might just die from heart disease, not even a checker. scary stuff

scary stuff where did you I imagine I know the answer to this based on you know we've read about you in the bio some of the things you've mentioned but where did you find your support where did you find your core you know base I mean it was in your religion

of surviving this sort of thing because you kind of have to start you know buying into a higher power at that point you have to start believing absolutely absolutely especially when you've been living your life, laity-di-da, everything has been going great, and all of a sudden, boom, this curve ball

just shows up in the form of a lump in your breast. You go to the doctor, they almost want to blow you off, and then you do your mammogram biopsy and everything confirms a month later that you now have breast cancer. And you're just in shock and awe. You're just like, what is happening? Where is this coming from?

Is there a family history? You ask a thousand questions. Why me? What did I do wrong? Haven't I already gone through enough? stuff in this world like what is happening like why you know you just you're just you're totally devastated totally devastated but then after the immediate aftermath of you hearing that news then you start to gather yourself and say okay my background as a nurse says i need to just follow the treatment plan

just wake up every day and one foot after you know put one foot in front of the other and just do the treatment plan i will deal with the symptoms as i go along and I will deal with the emotional turmoil and the psychological impact on a day-to-day basis. And so then I dust off my Bible and I start reading. And then I call my pastor and I ask for prayers. And then I reach out to my community of women and say, hey, I'm going to be going through surgery because somebody come over and help me look after my baby. My baby, six-month-old baby, who I still needed a babysitter for. or help me take my daughter, who's six years old at the time, to school, you know.

And so you now have to now relinquish your control to others and reach out to your community, your immediate surrounding community, wherever you go to church with, people who you go to church with are people you need to reach out to. This is not a time for secrecy. Privacy, I know health care is private, but then you have to have your inner circle of people that you can reach out to immediately. I call my family, my brothers, who are all over the United States and different states, and all of them came running.

They were like, whoa, this is my big sister. I got to go check on her. And they all came. And just that visit, that encouragement to say, hey, we love you. We care for you. We're thinking about you. Whatever you need us to do, even if it's just send me a gift card so I can feed my kids for that night because I can't go to, I can't cook dinner.

I can't, I don't have the energy now. to do mom duties, you know, cleaning, cooking, and things like that. And then there's a lot of services out there, Chris. I'm so impressed with the breast cancer awareness and all the organizations that are out there that really support women and their families. I had a university health care foundation through my employer who offered to pay my bills. Wow. I was going through breast cancer.

This was a thing. It's because by virtue of the fact that I was an employee and I had, I was going through cancer, they had a foundation that says, we'll pay your essential bills. Your money, your cell phone, your health insurance premiums will not last important things. And I'm forever grateful to them. And proceeds of whatever I make from my book is going to organizations like that. Oh, that's good. I'm going to be paying, I'm going to be paying that forward.

No, that's good to know. It's important there. Things like that. We, you know, we need more health support in this country and everything. You know, it's interesting. You talk about some of the difficulties you went through the medical system. You know, you being in the medical system probably helped your state of mind and helped you, helped you, you know, like you say, after you went through the initial shock, you know,

pull up your bootstraps and go, okay, how do we tackle this problem? And, you know, and then, of course, the advice you have, reaching out to groups, you know, I think, I think the first thing people mostly would do, especially women, is that we'd really embarrassed, maybe wouldn't want to talk about it, wouldn't want people knowing about it, you know, it's highly personal. It is highly personal, it's highly personal, Chris, but, but it's personal, but when it happens to you, and then you start researching it, and you start finding out the number of women that are the statistics, the shift statistics alone about how many women are, you know,

diagnosed every day and now younger and younger women, Chris, women in their 20s and 30s. And like I said, for me, in my 40s, totally unexpected, out of nowhere, you know, this was not what I was planning on or embarking on. And it was exactly on my 10-year anniversary of my wedding. So it impacts your relationship, your marriage, you have to be married to the right person to be able to deal with this kind of diagnosis. because a lot of women, their relationships fall apart as a result. Yeah. So, yeah, absolutely. You have to just kind of dig in and reach out.

It is not you, it's not, it's not something to be ashamed of. Because I heard you say shame. It's not something for you to be ashamed of. This is stuff that is affecting women and everyone who loves a woman for since the beginning of time. So please do not hide it. please do not cover it up, especially women of different cultures where there's so much conservative views about what you're supposed to talk about. Please, please, please, please, please.

This is what we're trying to remove the stigma to say seek help, seek help, seek help. Definitely. Yeah, and I like how you built the support team around you. That's really important too. When you're going through hard times or, you know, anytime, time I have questions about something I'm struggling with. I'll share it with on social media. And it's amazing the resources you can find there. I recently had hernia surgery and I was kind of like left afterward. It's like, no, what's recovery look like? And, you know, what's

advice? And how can I avoid, you know, re-tearing the hernia and how can I, you know, have a good recovery? And so I joined some Facebook groups. That's kind of what I do on everything now. Absolutely. I joined some Facebook groups and boy, I learned a lot. probably never heavy lifting at the gym ever again because uh because that but uh you know I learned how to do recovery you have seen some horror stories that made me worried but they also made it so that I'm like okay we're going to rest and not lift things for a while absolutely you have to slow you down a little bit you're going to slow down you have to slow down you have to slow down yeah but having that support group is really important being able to get

your questions answered you know because the doctor you know they've only got a limited amount of time they can spend with you. Absolutely. We are blessed that we have social media, right? Now that we're able to kind of just type in a search and say breast cancer, newly diagnosed, and you will be amazed as to how many YouTube videos are out there of all kinds of women, green, yellow, purple, whatever, you know, they all out there, sharing their stories, sharing the videos, showing your pictures of their chest and things

like that. So I'm so grateful to be around in this time and age where it's just a matter of, you know, typing some words on your keyboard and you'll be able to reach out to and touch someone. So yeah, the support group is there for your help too. Because, you know, chemotherapy hits you, man. It sets your energy. It does. You don't want to do anything. It does. Yeah, it's pretty fucking amazing. And so, yeah, and being able to advocate for yourself, you know, having like support for your children, et cetera, you know, all these different things that are so important. So as we round out, what are, what are some other things maybe you want to tease out to people about the book,

help them pick it up? Yeah. So the longest chapter in the book is chapter 11, where I talk about chemo and my chemo buddy. I had an amazing woman who was my children's pediatrician who, Chris, I don't want to get emotional, but she saw me while I was still doing mom. duties after I had been after I had gone through surgery I took my son to to for his a well child checkup and she was like what's going on and I said I just went through surgery for breast cancer and I'm supposed to be starting chemo and then she said well when are you starting chemo I will be there with you if it's on a Tuesday or Friday those are my days off

I will pick you up I will take you to chemo I will sit with you and I will bring you home to your family because I've had my mother my sister my my cousin she had three women her family who had been through breast cancer. And so her support was so significant that it was like a godsend. Someone who's already experienced it with her loved ones and she was willing to spend her time to give me what I needed the most that I didn't even know that's what I needed, Chris. I didn't know that I needed a chemo body. I didn't know that I needed someone to sit with me while I was getting chemo poured into my, you know, poison is what I call it, you know, coursing through my veins for four hours a day every every week and so I'm so great to full to her but there's a portion that

I wanted to read to you if you don't mind sure yeah and it's talking about time and waiting right so time on waiting all the keys to healing after damage after the damage that cancer treatment does to you these are also the two hardest things to comprehend our nature as humans make us demand that healing happen quickly and fast but that is not so healing takes time. We cannot rush the process. So you might as well just hurry up and wait. Someone told me that. Someone told me that during my process. And I hated them for it. But it is the truth. It is a truth. Waiting patiently, waiting prayerfully, taking one day at a time and doing the best that you can do for each day while maintaining a positive attitude. And that's on page 54 in chapter 11

of the book. And so that's kind of sort of for me sums up the whole thing. And then before you know it, a year becomes two years, it becomes 10 years, and I'm sitting here talking to you. And we're so happy. And, you know, this is the great part of what I love about our show. We tell stories, we share stories. We always say stories of the fabric of life. I mean, everyone's got good and bad stories, but really the stories are about survival. They're about the rising from the ashes, Phoenix things.

Yeah. You know, and that's why we love these stories is because they give us hope. They give us renewal. They let us know we're not alone. And, you know, like you've written about your book, you know, it can be very personal to where people are like, you know, I don't want to share this. I don't want to talk about this. But then you find there are other people like yourself that they've been through other things. They have what I call a blueprint of survival where they can go, hey, I survive this.

So can you? Exactly. And let's get you taken care of. Yeah. So, yeah, I just think it's great that it's out there for people. So as we go out, give people your final pitch out to pick of the book.coms, etc., etc. Yeah, so Amazon.com, you can get it in an e-book, you can get it in the paperback, you can get it on Covenant Books.com. They're the publishers.

You can get it from them as well in paperback. Audio book is yet, it's been worked on to come. So, yeah, that's it. And you can go to my, if you type, if you search me on Facebook, You can find me on Facebook as well. Thank you very much, Eddie, for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. And hopefully we've helped save some lives with what you're talking here.

Thank you so much, Chris. I really appreciate you making me feel comfortable to talk about this on air with people. I like breasts and we need to save breasts. Yes, we need to save breasts. And if we can find, if we can find these cancers early, we can save lives and we can save breasts along with it. These are the link to it. Yeah, but if it gets to the point, where those breasts are trying to take you out,

then you need to take them off. Yeah, you got to be like, you know, some things you can live without. But yeah, I mean, the fountain of life, it comes from women's bodies and we need to preserve them because, you know, we need life to keep happening. The propagation of the species,

people is what we're all about these days. Anyway. Absolutely. Absolutely. You're absolutely right. Well, thank you very much, Addy. Thanks for audience for tuning in. Order per book,

wherever fine books are sold. It's entitled, Surviving Breast Cancer. My personal story, your breasts are not worth dying for out. July 16th, 20, 25, share it with a friend or anyone else for that matter. And get tested. That's probably a big thing, huh, Addy? Yes, sir. Yes. Get tested. Get your mammograms. Yeah. And if you think something's wrong, check into it because you never know. And sometimes it's better. You know, you can sleep at night if you find out that everything's fine. Absolutely. At least you know. Thanks for tuning in. Go to goodreads.com. That's Chris Foss. LinkedIn.com. Fortress, that's Chris Foss.

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