The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – The AI-Human Paradox: What Artificial Intelligence Reveals About Consciousness and the Future of Being Human by Bruce D Randall

Episode Date: October 4, 2026

The AI-Human Paradox: What Artificial Intelligence Reveals About Consciousness and the Future of Being Human by Bruce D Randall https://www.amazon.com/dp/1960346946 brucedrandall.ai We’re teaching machines to think. Who’s teaching us to be conscious? Although AI can process a billion data points in seconds, it lacks any capacity to sit in silence and know that it exists. At this time in world history, humanity stands at an unprecedented crossroads. Artificial intelligence is reshaping every dimension of life–how we work, create, connect, and even understand reality itself. However, in the race to build smarter machines, we’ve neglected the deeper question: What is the intelligence that no machine can manufacture? The AI-Human Paradox explores the territory between the algorithm and awareness, between computational power and the quiet force of consciousness. Written by a software consulting professional with decades of experience in the technology industry–who is also a mediator and Reiki Master–this book bridges two worlds that rarely speak to each other, and as such reveals why their conversation is the most important of our times. Inside, you’ll discover: Why the rise of AI makes human consciousness more essential–not less. The paths that artificial and human intelligence may walk together–or apart. What meditation, energy work, and contemplative traditions reveal about the limits of machines. A vision for a future in which technology serves awakening rather replacing it. This is not a book for technologists or spiritual seekers alone. Instead, it’s for anyone who has felt the tension between a world moving faster and a should asking to go deeper. About the author Bruce D. Randall has spent thirty years inside the technology industry and twenty years sitting still. That tension —enterprise software leadership at companies like Oracle and AT&T on one side, two decades of contemplative practice on the other — is what his books are built to hold. He writes about artificial intelligence and quantum computing with a combination almost no one brings to the subject: the fluency of someone who has actually sold and deployed these systems at scale, and the skepticism of someone who has spent years watching his own mind and knows the difference between a capability and a claim. His work is deliberately anti-hype. Where the industry promises revolution, Randall asks for the evidence — and when the evidence isn’t there, he says so, on the page, in plain language. His books are fact-checked to a standard most technology writing never attempts, because he believes readers deserve to know which claims are proven and which are merely sold. He currently serves as fractional CEO of a technology group, so the questions he writes about are not abstract to him — they are the ones he is answering in the room, under real stakes, right now. Across The AI Human Paradox, The Quantum Human Paradox, and The QAI Human Paradox, he traces a single widening question: as machines grow more capable, what remains distinctly, irreducibly human? In The End of Smart, he turns the lens on intelligence itself — and on what happens to a society built to reward it when intelligence stops being scarce. What his experience revealed about getting a job today. One line runs through all of it: Power seizes. Consciousness receives. Bruce holds a Data Science certificate from MIT and also holds an AI product management certification, and lives on the coast of Massachusetts.

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a lot of AI authors on this week. There must be something going on with that AI thing there. Anyway, his book is entitled, The AI Human Paradox. What Artificial Intelligence, reveals about consciousness and the future of being human by Bruce D. Randall. We're going to get into with him and find out all his deeds and what he's talking about and what he wants us to know. He is a thought leader in AI, educator, technology commercialization, executive leadership, and an MBA. He is a technology executive, entrepreneur, author, and AI thought leader with more than

three decades of experience in enterprise technology, business development, and technology. technology commercialization. He's served as CEO and CEOO of startup companies and as a fractional CEO and his senior sales leadership roles with major technology organizations. Welcome to this show. How are you, sir? Chris, I'm doing wonderful tonight. Thank you very much. Thank you and thanks for coming on board with us. Give us your dot coms. Where do you want people to find out more about you on the interwhips? It's Bruce D. And that has my books, the articles are written and the articles are free. the books you have to pay for. You got to pay for some of that knowledge, folks, and make it a plug in here. If you order the book from Bruce's website, you can get a sign copy. They don't do that

on Amazon. Why don't they do that on Amazon? That should be a deal over there, right? I would think that would be a good idea. They just don't. It doesn't get a couple extra bucks. Yeah, they have four different formats of different book variations. Maybe, I don't know, maybe someone should tell Bezos that he can farm us for more money. So give us a 30,000 over you, sir. What's inside this book? What's inside the book is one of the terms that I've created is, is power seizes and consciousness receives. When you're working with AI or in business, we're always out to conquer, to get more,

to sell, to create value, correct? And with consciousness, you quiet your mind and you receive things. So putting those two together was a little bit of a challenge. But when I saw NeurLink and the first chip they put in Nolan said that I can move the mouse with my thoughts, but sometimes the mouse moves before I even think about it. And I said, that's an interesting situation because he doesn't have cognitive thought and it moves before he has the thought. So I said, there's a connection there. And I wrote the book, The AI Human Paradox, about AI, about brain computer interface and about consciousness. And it's a really good progression.

and it brings a lot of things to light, and there's hope for us. There is? There's hope for us. I've just accepted that the overlords of the air always to kill me someday, and I'm just going to just let it be. But no, I don't want to jump on the topic if you're going to explain this. But the question I have is, one thing I learned we used to have a career business 20 or 30 years ago, something like that, 30 years ago, 40 years ago.

Boy, I'm old. And we would do a lot of driving. We had delivery cars and stuff. And I would always notice, and it's still true to this day, that people that are about to signal and do a lane change, seconds before they do, they will do a subconscious move to the line, and then they'll move back,

and then it'll activate their blinker and begin the lane change. And I've often wondered if that's some sort of subconscious, preeminence where maybe the subconscious mind is he's probably going to want to lane change here so I'm going to start working on this forum. Is that possible that's what that is when that gentleman you were talking about maybe had preeminent thoughts or pre whatever the word is there? I think that's similar because when you're driving or doing anything your mind is always thinking your brain's working and sometimes you do things without knowing it before you do it and this is a good example of it same thing with Nolan. Things happen that you can't explain, but it's always the right thing to do. Yeah. And that's just subconscious working with you to keep you safe and move you forward. Huh. So you feel that's maybe what he was doing, or what's your summation of what he was doing?

Nolan? Uh-huh. Yeah, I think he was a quadriplegic. Now he can use his mind to work the computer. He's an expert game player with his mind. Oh, wow. And he wanted to show that he could have value. and he could partake in the world in some way.

And this is a good way to do it because it's a dynamic interface, and he can use his mind to do it because that's what he has used, that's usable. And they've since done 12 brain computer interfaces, and Elon Musk has said, if you're healthy and you can afford it, you too can have a chip. You too can have a chip if you pay enough. That's kind of a commercialization a little bit. Oh, yeah, that sounds great.

Between his kind of mean cowboy stuff, I'm not sure if I want to trust anything he wants to put my body, but that's just my opinion. But I can see how this would help certain people like the gentleman with issues and things like that. And maybe, maybe, I don't know, maybe that would be a great way if we could overcome dementia or any other disease ailments. Maybe we could figure out a way to computer get the brain to a computer hack around some physical elements maybe or something. There's a lot of work being done in that area. And I say there's two markets. There's the public market that we all see here, and then there's the market behind the closed doors.

And you hear about it once in a while where they have AI models that they're not releasing yet because they're not ready. And of course, the government's got things that they've been working on. They don't release it. So I've got a little bit of a purview into that. And from what I understand they have, they're quite a bit further ahead than the public is. And that's why I said these two markets here. So we've got those in the Genesis program that's now, coming out, they're bringing companies in to work with the technology they have to build it out

commercially so the government can use them. You know, we need, though, we need a computer inface that can make stupid people smart because there's not a pill you can take to copy a comedian. There's not a pill you can take. There's no way to solve stupid. You're stupid forever if you're stupid. I think it was Ron White who told that joke comedian. But it's really true.

There are people that need some help on the curve there, eh? Not all of us are smart, including me. And look at me, come on. I need a computer interface, something else. I think it's more of a sex robot, but that's a different story. Anyway, jokes. I have those. Just waiting for a good one.

So anyway, I think a lot of people are at this point. Anyway, whatever. In your book, you outline the interfaces, I guess, between AI. And do you have a more positive outlook on how this experience will go? is as, I don't know, we tend to get largely replaced by AMAB. What are your thoughts on the future? I think we've always had job change as technology has changed. As it's come along in my lifetime, I've seen it.

And this is just another technology that's going to change jobs. And the book I have The End of Smart talks about what people in high school and jobs can do now if they want to get hired. Because you have to know something about AI and you have to be able to talk about it. interview and the person that can do that is going to get hired over the person that can't do that. That's true. It's actually the person who can jump over here. I was looking at some people that were complaining today in a Facebook group about how they can't get any answers back on jobs they're applying for. And one of the problems is, is AI is now the filter.

I used to be, I could oppress employers when I was like really young with my Hutzpah and drive and talk to talk. and be a go-getter and stuff. And if I got in front of somebody who was like, I don't know not sure about this Chris Voss, dude, I could gas them up and tell them what a great player I am and stories and whatever. And I could get in the door when sometimes they were probably when they first met me going, who's this schlub, right?

Yeah. But you can't do that now with AI, man. That thing is going to format you or profile you and check all your socials and then tell you to, and then never answer you. So it helps if you can get the job, but maybe the key is you got to be so good at AI. You know how to beat the AI that's filtering. There's a study that was done that said if AI does your resume with the AI filtering,

you have a better chance of getting your resume. Ah, get the machines to talk to see what's going on there. They're working together. Yeah, I'm glad I have to deal with this. So basically, when I'm doing business deals from here on out, I just need to tell CEOs or something, And we need to have my AI secretary bot, talk to your A. Secretary of Bot, and we'll work out something. What got you interested in the field of AI? Was somewhere in your journey and your career?

Yeah, it was. I was always in technology and I was in cloud when it started. And then 2020 was a tough year for everybody. And I had a lot of changes in my 2020. And I said, at this point, what do I do? So I did podcasts. I learned about AI. I built a few AI applications.

I took a data science at MIT course to understand the back end. And with the consciousness, this all came to topics that a lot of people wanted to hear and talk about. So I developed that in the books and the podcasts, and now I go out and talk about it. Oh, consciousness and AI. Now, you were mentioned to me, I believe, in the pre-show. You're into Riki and another thing called a holistic healing thing? Meditation. Meditation.

How do you apply that in the field of AI or how does that play out in some of the what you worry about? I'm a technologist during the day and I quiet my mind at night with Reiki and meditation. And what that does is meditation gives you a better understanding of yourself and a lower ego out in the real world so you see things differently. That doesn't sound fun at all. No, I'm just kidding. I have a big ego. I have a big ego. There's two sides to that, right?

So what I do is I look at things differently and I look at it from holistic perspective and from a technological perspective. And I see both sides and how it can work together moving forward. And that's what I talk and write about and how I can give back to people now with the books and the articles that are free on my site. So the people can really understand what it is and it will help them as they progress. Yeah. That's wonderful, sharing the knowledge and all that good stuff.

Now, you've written how many books now on this AI? stuff? I've written a total of four. Four books. And then two are published and two or forthcoming, correct? Yep. One of them is going to printing and the other one is following right behind it. It took me while to find a publisher, so they kind of bunched up a little bit. Yeah, yeah. But it's like you're really hopeful on what's going with AI. A lot of people when we discuss AI, it's not really doom and gloom, but it's a little bit of a warning, I guess. Do you think there's anything we need to worry about in building this new species, if you will? I think the more we get to know ourselves, right?

And the more we understand our awareness, the better off we're going to be. And with the AI, some people are because they just have no interest in that, right? No awareness of anything. Those are the people we need to hook up those computers to make them not suspect. We know where they're at. They're on Twitter. So we just got to go over there and, I don't, round them up or something. We just do a bot for that.

Just do a bot. Maybe we can just hack the Grockbot or whatever that. There you go. And then have it say a bunch of stuff that makes people smarter or something. I don't know. In fact, I think they're having a problem now at the White House. The bot that they launched at the White House recently is saying the complete opposite of the liar-in-chief. It's kind of a bit of a, when your AI bots telling on you, it's probably not a good

sign. I don't know. Maybe that's a quantum problem. Maybe that's part of the brain thing that we need to develop because dementia is a thing in Alzheimer. It would be great if somehow we could plug a computer into people's brain and they can find their memories again. That would be wonderful for a lot of people. They're talking about putting putting your brain or your mind on a download it to a site. So when you die, you still have, you still have your mind and your memories and so forth. forth. And they're not quite there, but they're working on it. So there's a lot of crazy things being worked on out there. I'm cool with that as someone wipes my browser history. You know what I mean? I don't think I want anybody toying with that afterwards going.

Some things we don't want them to know. I think it's fine. My porn's pretty normal, but I just want anybody mucking about. I didn't know who he's into that. And I can't think of a funny joke to rough off that. So I'll just roll with it. You put this all in this book. You explore the territory between the algorithm, awareness, computational power. We had someone on the show years ago who took Darwin's origin of species, and he aligned it with the birth of AI as a new species. And it was really interesting because he basically used Darwin's thing to say, we are creating a new species AI. And it can dominate us. It can be smarter than us. It can move faster than us. It can live 24 hours a day.

And his interesting comment to me is it's going to think about things that we don't think about. As a species, we're pretty much built to breed, have children, raise those children. It's all propagation of species for us 24-7. That's all we're really doing here is propagating the species. AI doesn't have a problem with getting a prom date. It's not worried about, oh, I need to buy this suit or this car so I can pick up this girl or I need this makeup so I can look good at for a guy. It has no whatever in that. I hope it wouldn't.

It'd be really kind of anti-collective. Climactic. It just copied how stupid we are. But it's going to be thinking about stuff all day long that we probably are beyond the scope of our consciousness, maybe. And so we're really creating a new species and probably a top of the food chain, maybe. It's a species that's purely intelligent, but it doesn't have the soft skills we have. And if you were to live in a world of AI, for example, you have a paperclip company, you say, we want you to make paper clips and we want you to make the most effective and the most conservative and paperclip and make as many as you can. They will decimate the earth to make paper clips with no regard to it.

That's what pure intelligence does. And we don't want to live in that world. We need humans for the soft skills and to interpret and to understand. and make the decisions. We're talking this earlier this week. They don't feel pain. They don't have a risk of it. If you and I do something risky,

and we experience pain, loss. Our results are pretty immediate on the feedback. With the computer, if he decides to, or she or it, decides to push the button and launch nuclear missiles, technically I guess he might die or they might die,

but they're not going to feel any pain. They're not going to have their flesh scarred off their body and be wandering on Hiroshima for a while. Sadly, a lot of those people had to endure in Hiroshima and stuff. So, yeah, it's when you don't think that you're going to hurt yourself, you've ever hurt yourself out of, and you haven't hurt yourself for a while, you're just like, oh, shit, that sucks. I guess I've got to be more careful.

But they can make a mistake that wipes out humanity or crops or food service or turns off every refrigerator in America. It's another day. It would be it, right? We'd just be like, we had good times, man. we had good times. That's why I don't have intelligent appliances in my house. Yeah.

But one of the concerning things is there's a lot of bad players all over the world and people that aren't that smart. We've seen how successful the Russian army. We used to think it was the second best army in the world. Now it's the second best army in Ukraine. And I stole that from the Pentagon, one of their speaker guys. But still, if Russia, which seems completely inept at everything at this point, decides, hey, I know how we, and they're trying to win the AI space race, quote, unquote, if they plug that into weapon systems, NORAD, or let's say one of these little Jokers gets out to keeps escaping open AI or anthropic and decides to hack the NORAD, we might have some problems. Yeah, and I think that's been done once before.

and they took care of it. But that's the thing. With this technology, when it comes to security, you're not as secure as you think when it comes to computer and electronic. That's a fact. Yeah. And there's hackers and evilness. I swear to God, my email has just blown up this year with all sorts of,

somehow their AI emails are able to jump over systems. And even emails that I've blocked, their email, whatever address and all the data that's in it, it's still coming through. It's getting by the block. And they even now say, you've got to be careful answering your phone because if you answer your phone and talk to those scammers, they're always calling you. They've got AI voice recording now that basically will get a voice print of your voice, and then it could call your relatives and be like, hey, I'm in jail, send me $40,000.

or there's been Guatemala or something here, New York or whatever. There's a lot of bad stuff that can happen from that. So it's wild west almost again, really. But there's two signs to everything, right? And you always get that danger, but it's how you manage it that is the key. And it's being managed fairly well right now. Is it? Okay. Yeah.

I mean, they've got some checks and balances in there, and things escape, right? But it's because of human error that they escape. It's not the technology. It's the humans that are making the mistakes. Yeah. Let's lock those humans over. I don't know. I'm just having fun. Let's talk about your second book. Now you have a second book that you put out. And give us the title on that one. That is the quantum human paradox. And here we talk about quantum because quantum, a lot of people think quantum is faster. It's really, by nature it is, but that's not the point. Computers, computers, computers, computers can go so far in computation and where they stop, that's where quantum can pick up

and take it further. They work together. And the hybrid system is really going to be the solution where you have AI and your computer taking the information from quantum and giving it to people so it makes sense because you just get a dot plot from the quantum, really. So there's an article on my website that talks about what is a quibit, which is a quibit, which is one piece of quantum that provides the information. Oh.

And quantum comes from an atom, and an quibit is an electronic source. So it's not what people think. And the paper I wrote is so everybody could understand it. So if you want to go there and read that and fall asleep, probably, it's a good paper to understand quantum. I should do that. I've been having a somnily at least. It's pretty detailed in this stuff.

So you've really, you've really delved into this and got to know it. Now, the two books you have coming out that will be following up soon. Do you have release dates on these other two books? Yeah, the third book is the QAI Human Paradox when you put quantum and AI together. Okay. And that's coming to me for final approval in two weeks. Once I approve it, it goes to print. And then I wrote a book about my job search, which is the end of smart, where intelligence is a commodity.

So what do we do now? And that's really good for people out in the workforce in kids going into college because you can make better decisions after reading that book. Oh, so it might help prepare for some of those people I was talking about

that we're complaining about trying to find a job. And yeah, AI kind of has the corner on it and it's even faster and it's kind of free. I've saved a lot of money with Chad GPT and it's, I want to say Fable for some reason, but Claude. And it's helped me build websites

I needed to build a magazine for my photography, and it just did it. It was insane. I gave it a few prompts, and it produced a professional published a professional published magazine with all sorts of great artwork and formats and took all my pictures and put them in the right, created that whole thing you see in the magazine. And I was just blown away. I was just like, holy crap, this is almost too easy. Yeah, it's amazing what it can do.

When I built my first AI app, I asked it to build, give me something that would be good verbally for what I was trying to do. And it provided me a great website with a URL and a description. And I only asked for the description. And the URL was so good, I kept it because it was better than mine. My problem is I'm not a coder. I evidently dated too many women, so I don't have nerd brain anymore, so I can't code. Yeah. That's a big joke.

And I just can't. I tried. And I have a fairly mathy brain, but not really, but I just don't connect with it. And so having it helped me build websites, I gave it a prompt of what I want and the title of the thing, published the site. And I was just like, that's so weird. How fast it is. Boom. I'm going to give you a tool to use.

It's called lovable. dot dev. Lovable Dev. Is this on Olin fans or that sounds like an only fan thing? It could be, but it's actually you put what you want and it will build it for you. You don't have to code. It does coding for you. That is awesome.

Yeah. That is awesome. Now if I can just get this sex robot, we'll finally be in business. Elon's going to be like make a half a million human-eyed robots here in the next year. I think it's an all in himself with his little Ken I mean Cowway game there. I don't know. I think he needs to back off something over there. Maybe he does need to, maybe he just needs more regulation of drugs.

Who knows? But I'm still waiting for that movie to come out. You're going to go see that movie. Elon if it comes out, if it makes it out. I think it would be very interesting to see it because I know enough where I can, I can laughter in the most of it. Yeah. I laugh at them all the time anyway when I'm not crying about what he's doing to everything

else. But yeah, it's, I don't know, it's just so amazing that somebody, who's so successful is such a miserable sod. And can you imagine having that much money and just bitching and complaining all the time and just being miserable? I think someone did a really great profile on him. Maybe he can get AI to fix that or that or he can bury himself in the boring company somewhere in a tunnel. Anyway, we can always drink. But yeah, it's interesting all the stuff that's doing there.

And it's moving so fast. Do you ever challenge keeping up with it? I do. I'm just, I feel like I'm whip shot. Well, trying to hold on. I've got some, some good feeds, and I know where to go to get the information. And I'm telling you, I have a hard time keeping up with it because there's so many companies working on it, trying to keep track of them all. It's like herding cats. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

One day, one of us ahead of the other, and the other is ahead this day. And, oh, this is the one. And I'm like, just pick a horse and stick with it. Yeah. It changes every week. Yeah. nice. I'm a Luddite, damn it, by nature. I just want my simple technology and just leave me alone with my radial tires and I'm sick as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore if I can quote a network movie. What else do we need to know that I should have asked you about on some of these books and things that you have going on?

It's just, I wanted to put something together that would help people understand because you need to understand, because if you understand, you don't have fear. So that'll get people out of fear by reading these and understanding what it's about. And that's what the articles that I write to expand on that. Because fear is not a good thing. And if we can displace that and put it in with something that we understand and we know, then we're happier people. And to your point, society will move up a couple of notches, hopefully. Yeah. I like your idea. Embrace it. It's all you can do, right? You can't see what's coming. That's vanity. is a great line from, a great line from, I can't remember the movie.

But, yeah, that's vanity. You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all about you. And that's kind of what you have to do. I love your positive mantra on this. Because sometimes we do talk about the dangers and do we need to controls, regulations. It's so weird that our government regulates, I don't know, TV technology from 1917 or whatever the hell it was invented. And, oh, your wattage on your radio station.

isn't quite up to par. We're going to have to find you at the FCC. Bullshit like that or you swear on radio. Oh, that was a no-no. Yeah, that's a big no-no. But God forbid social media has no regulation and neither does AI. And so you kind of have to go, are we, are we, what are we doing? Trying to find the truth is really, it's quite a challenge these days. And it's moving fast and moving. Very fast.

Yeah. It's bobbing and weaving and dodging. You won't catch me. In my third book, I start out with, there's a research article written. Here's the name of the article and here's the word. And it's nothing about what it says. Because it says metal chunk was in two places at the same time. Once you understand what the article's about, it's two minute pieces of metal that barely, they're next to each other. So you really, even on the articles, you have to really be careful on what you're reading because not all of it's true.

The internet's not true? That's a revelation. Come on. Come on. Stop on the internet. I thought that was all true. Tell me it's not true. Damn it.

He just broke my bubble. Now I have to rethink everything. But yeah, I think I would hope that, let me ask you this. A lot of the AI companies or companies that are trying to do AI, they lead off tons of people. And it seems like their model was, we're going to take five people and we're going to get rid of four. and then we're going to give a bunch of AI tokens to the fifth guy or girl, and we're going to have them basically run a team of five people with AI tokens and AI. And now they've found out that AI is really expensive in tokenization, I guess,

and now they're having to scarcity dole out the tokens. So whoever this poor guy or gal is that's left to run a team of five without the other four on AI, can't even get tokens to their damn job. So do you think they maybe overshot that one? Do you think that maybe there's a bit of a bubble, kind of like the dot-com thing, where we may have jumped in the pool a little too soon or too quick? I think that happens.

It happened with cloud, and it's happening with AI. You can how many data centers are building, right? Yeah, that's crazy. But you get to power them. There's so much that has to happen. And they've never been turned on because they don't have electricity for them. Or water. Yeah.

An oversight. Somebody over. So I didn't think that one through. And I know that the ones I was just watching, I think was CBS the other day, a reporter went out to a remote place where Elon has one of those places. I think it's in West Virginia or somewhere in the south, Arkansas or something. And she'd seen all these people complaining about the noise of this data center. And so she took cameras out there and went out there to see for herself and sound recordings so you can measure how loud. it was. It was extraordinary, man. It was those poor people are living in the neighborhood and it

sounds like you got jet engines running 24-7s. Yeah. And it's like a low hum too, which will make you just insane, right? Yeah. And these people, they think they're living and living up in the, in the, in the back, quiet part of the country, peaceful, quiet, birds and nature and all that stuff. And then along comes the Elon or anybody, these data centers and just wrecks the whole place. and you're just like, there goes the neighborhood. And they go with property values, right? Yeah, yeah.

There goes private. I suppose they go up if, I don't know, 50,000 data centers trying to move there or something. Yeah. Yeah. Same place.

Isn't that how it works in real estate sometimes in gentrification? Yeah. Yeah, it's parity. You have to reach parity in each one. Yeah. They just be placed. The only problem is I think

they consume so much water and data or electricity and stuff. I think it would be hard to have a whole collection I'm sitting one place. I don't know. Elon's the big one he's building for his robots. It's the biggest factory, I think, ever. He had to get approval to be a power generation company

because he needed to generate his own power to run his planet. That's probably smart. He's got turbines there and everything to get the power he needs. I mean, and then you look at the data centers, and you need tremendous amount of power and water for that. And it's better where's going to come from? I don't think they've answered that question yet completely. Hell, if we all get sex robots,

we'll probably have to have extra power stations in our house just to power them. I'm not sure for what, but a lot of people have them for their cars. They have those Tesla power panels or whatever. And then some people have the whole units that store power and their solar and stuff. Oh, yeah?

Yeah. Maybe I'll have to get a bigger sex robot so that she can store all the power and she'll have to sit up by the pool so that she can recharge. Or you can put solar. Doloron and you could have a green robot. Green robot. Yeah. I think we're just going to find out one of these days, Elon's an alien. I think that's what's going to just happen. One day, someone's going to pull on his face and it's going to be a lizard under like that V-mov TV show from the 80s or 90s, whatever that was.

So anything more we want to plug before we go out so that people can know more about your books and stuff. I think we've done a good job at the books. You've got my website. And that's where everything sits is on the website. You can get anywhere. from there literally. I even built a news site that's plugged into the website so you can go and see the newest news on AI and quantum and consciousness for the day. Do you want

did you give us a dot com on that? It's neural newsdaily.aI. Oh wow. There you go. And that's plugged into the website, but you can go that separately also. Okay, so it's on your website. It's a separate site, but it's linked to the website.

That should be fun. It's got its own news thing. Thank you very much for coming the show. We really appreciate it. And thanks for giving us a real positive feedback, Bruce. I feel better by AI. We had some people giving us doom and gloom and regulation early this week. And they're wonderful authors and people. But I think there's a, we need to cover the whole package on this one, really. Yeah, because I've seen Terminator 2. No, I don't know. And I want to, I want to escape to Mexico some crazy woman in aviator glasses. I'm just not into running from

unkillable robots. That's just kind of my thing. I have to deal enough with people on Twitter. Anyway, so thanks for coming to show, Bruce. Thanks for us for tuning in. Order of the book, wherever fine books are sold. The AI Human Paradox,

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