The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – The Aliens Step In (Defenders of Time) by Gene P Abel

Episode Date: October 10, 2023

The Aliens Step In (Defenders of Time) by Gene P Abel https://amzn.to/45r2XhV In the final installment of the Defenders of Time science fiction trilogy by Gene P. Able, The Aliens Step In, everything changes. Agent Lou Hessman and his team discover parts of their time travel facility are disappearing. The Chinese spies behind this event have successfully altered the past-and they are using means beyond current human technology that could prove disastrous for the time and space continuum. With only a small window of opportunity before their time travel operation is completely erased, the U. S. team visits the past to try and erase the Chinese attack in the first place. The impacts of interfering with time go far beyond anything Agent Hessman and his intrepid team of time defenders could have imagined-worlds beyond, in fact. Their efforts bring them face-to-face with an alien being, Sonsa Tabbak, who arrives to stop human time travel before a universal catastrophe can occur. What happens next changes everything, everywhere, forever. We are not alone. For more information go to: genepabelbooks.com

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uh so uh gene p abel joins us on the show today, uh, for his book, the alien step in defenders of time that just came out paperback July 18th, 2023. We're going to be talking about his series that he does and, uh, what's going to be in it and all that good stuff. Um, he is a U S army Colonel retired and is the bestselling author of six books in many genres, including sci-fi, fantasy, romance, political nonfiction. He has a Bachelor of Science in Finance from Penn State University and a Master's in Business Administration from Lehigh University. He's a distinguished military graduate from Penn State. He spent five years on active duty as a regular Army officer and 25 years as an Army Reserve officer.

He completed the Army War College in 1985 and won the Meritus Service Medal twice. He was nominated for General Officer and retired in 1993 as a Colonel. After his military career, he's worked successfully in the business and education sectors before becoming an author. Welcome to the show, Gene. How are you? Very good. You too. There you go.

Well, it's wonderful to have you. Welcome to the show. Give us a.com so we can find you on the interwebs. My website is genepeablebooks.com. Genepeablebooks.com. You can check me out There you go So you've written six books, is that correct?

Yes And so what is this latest book about? Well The latest book is It's a fiction Of actual contact with extraterrestrials Ah The series It's the third book in the series of actual contact with extraterrestrials. The series, it's the third book in the series.

The first two are more time travel oriented. The third begins as a time travel novel, but it morphs into direct alien contact as a result of some of the things that we did when we were fiddling around with time travel. It's always that time travel that gets you every time. Now, this is, I believe, the third in a series? Yes. Okay. And then what was the first two books, if you want to plug them

so people know the titles for those? The first one is Going Back. That's where we go back in time and see what's going on and try to prevent some people from making some changes in history ah the second kind of i'm sorry to interrupt you there's kind of some bad things that can happen if you try and go back in history and put your finger on the scale maybe huh well the feeling in my book is that we you know maybe the devil we don't know could be worse than the devil we do. Ah, I see.

There we go. So that was the setting for the first book. Now, in the second book, we look at something we did in our lifetime had an adverse impact on Russia in the future. And so people from the future come back to our time, kidnap one of our key scientists to try again to alter what we did that had an adverse impact on them. Wow.

So that's the scenario of the second book. The third book picks up with, this time I pick on the Chinese, they successfully alter history. And as a result, part of our time travel operation that isn't protected starts disappearing. We go back in time to try to, again, reverse what the Chinese did, and in so doing, create a cataclysmic reaction in the universe.

And this is what triggers the aliens to step in. Oh, they're like, what are you guys mucking about or something, maybe? Yep, that's exactly right. You know, we're watching what you idiots have been doing, and you guys are a really bad ant farm. So there you go. Tell us about some of the characters in the book. Well, that's one of the things. I try to develop the characters over the three books.

One of the most interesting characters, believe it or not, is one that is brought from the past in the first series, Claire. She's a reporter. And as it worked out, she becomes very crucial in all of the ensuing episodes. We have got a general that is in control of the facility. One of the most fascinating characters is a guy by the name of Mr. Thomas who appears in the third book. And at first he looks sort of like an accountant. He turns out to be a direct representative from the President of the United States because he was sent to see what's going on. Oh, wow.

So it's interesting. And as these characters mature through the book, people get attached to them. For example, I had thought about doing away with Claire, the reporter in one of my, in the third book. And my wife said, don't you dare. I love her. So, you know, you always listen to the boss, right? Yeah.

Or the audience. I mean, it's funny how many authors we have on that write novels like yourself and the audience will write them and talk about their characters, and they're just like, I never really thought of it that way. Yeah. Yeah, I've been very pleased. Some of the comments that I've got on Goodreads and on Amazon, people have been very complimentary.

I'm very pleased at that. And you're right. Some of them do cite the characters they follow. It's a little like a dallas if you remember you know i saw some people like some and some people didn't like others and that's that's that's sort of exactly what what the comments have been hey but it beats no one caring so there you go that's awesome that's awesome so uh now this is the third in the installment and i believe it's billed as the final yes for now that this is the third in the installment, and I believe it's billed as the final? Yes, for now.

This is the final installment in this series. I don't know what the future holds. None of us do. But I wanted to put this together. I mean, I had this idea from the beginning. Can I run it right there one second? I thought you were writing about time travel. If anybody knows of the future, it should be you, right?

Well, I wish I did. Sorry, I had to get that joke in there. I think I had to step forward and get that lottery number. There you go. Sorry, I had to get that joke in there. That's okay. Go ahead, though. So, you know, we've got these three sci-fi books. But in reality, this third book, especially with the aliens, is really linked to a non-fiction book that I wrote called What If Anything Is Out There.

Now, I spent the better part of a year researching extraterrestrials, UFO sightings, and as a result, I wrote this nonfiction book, What If Anything Is Out There. So in reality, the fiction book, The Aliens Step In, is a realization of what might happen that I have covered in my nonfiction book about UFOs. Oh, wow. And that came out on June 1st of 2021 yes uh and uh was a best

selling book on the thing um so you you you you kind of dabble in uh studying uh ufos in you in real life that's correct there you go we covered the whole gamut see that setup i did at the beginning of the show you didn't know whether we're going one way or the other, and we've gone both. So some of the – have you always been fascinated by UFOs? Yes. the sci-fi series and some of the episodes that clearly show or believe that there are extraterrestrial life out there. And of course, I was a science major when I started out. Believe it or not, my first year of college, I was a physics major. However, I found out I wasn't as smart as I thought, so I changed the business. But anyhow, the reality is that I have watched and follow very closely what is going on.

I have, you know, I've signed up with NASA and I have National Science Foundation websites and others. And I get a lot of information on a regular basis that I read. Oh, really? And it is astounding. For example, the number of sightings that are currently occurring all over the world. We have the interaction now of the federal government and setting up a new agency to review and take a look at UFOs. So, you know, and then, you know, we have everything that we're learning from the vehicles that we've sent to Mars and to the moon. And the pictures, for example, from the Webb and Hubble telescopes, really show me, at least, the enormity of what we're dealing with out there.

And to think that we are the only speck in the universe. You know, if you took all the sand in the world and piled it up, the Earth is less than one grain of sand to that pile in the universe. Wow. That's just astounding to think about. Yes, it is. And so, you know, to believe that we're really the only one there, I just don't think so. When I started my book, I was a skeptic. I will tell you that i was but after a year of taking a look at what's out there um i i really do believe that yes we have been and are being visited by extraterrestrials there you go so you know you wrote your book in 2021 uh since then there's been more congressional

hearings uh what is your take on some of the newer stuff that maybe isn't in your book on what the congressional hearings are doing? And I have a good question for you as a follow-up. Why do you think we've hid for all these years? I mean, as long as I've been alive, I've been, I've known that there's been a, the files, the classified files that are handed to a president when he takes presidency, they're like need to know files that he's handed a pile of needed notes. And it probably has like, you know,

nuclear issues and, and, you know, things that we, you know, it's probably deep, deep classified stuff. Um,

it's either that or else it's at Mar-a-Lago. One of the two, um, it's a bad joke. UmLago, one of the two. It's a bad joke. In some bathroom. Why do you think the government has kept this hidden

for so long, all these years, and now they're just finally getting around to talking about it? I think the government officials are a little concerned as to what the reaction will be when there's actual physical contact.

There was a study done in 2000 by one of the think tanks the government had contracted, and they took a look at what might happen. And really, it depends on the nature, I think, of the first contact. If, for example, they have come down and they're watching us like we would watch an ant hive or a beehive, we just better hope they don't want to exterminate the beehive.

I think we got an AI trying to do that next. I think it's either them or the AI that's going to exterminate the beehive. I think we've got an AI trying to do that next. It's either them or the AI that's going to exterminate us. The other possibility is they may have reasoned at this point that we have matured enough that they want to have some dialogue, some kind of contact with us.

Now, if that's the approach, then I think there's a great deal to be seen out there from a benefit standpoint. If they've been really coming to this planet for eons, which I believe they have, we could learn about our history things in a way that we could not learn any other way. If they would share some of their technology with us, we could do some things like cure cancer or whatever. That would be ideal. Now, the third possibility is if they look at us as being in the way, like the war of the worlds. In that event, we're in trouble.

Definitely. Because the technology and level of sophistication they must have to be able to come here is far beyond what we understand. Yeah. That would make it very difficult to deal with. Tom Cruise is going to save us for this one. I think it's going to be a little tough, yes. And I think the government's concerned. However, with the number of sightings, especially over populated areas, and one other statistic that I found very interesting, do you know that the vast majority of sightings that have been reported all over the earth have been reported over nuclear facilities, either nuclear weapons or nuclear power generations?

That just does not seem like a chance piece of information. So, you know, if they were to come down in a hostile fashion, I think that's one of the things and one of the reasons that the government has been reluctant. But I think today with the increased sightings and with some of the information that they have gotten from the pilots and others, they're trying to prepare the public for that eventuality. That's how I really believe. You know, people like Jimmy Carter, when he ran for president, by the way, he claims he saw a UFO when he was a governor. That's right. And he filed an official report. When he ran for president, he claims he saw a UFO when he was governor. That's right. And he filed an official report. When he ran for president, he was asked about this, and he pledged to release all the classified information if he were elected about UFOs.

After he was elected, of course, the reporters remember, and they go back and they say, hey, Jimmy, what's going on here? Jimmy, what's up with that? His answer was, there are some things that are just too sensitive to release. Wow. Now, when you got somebody at that level saying those kinds of things, you know, it's hard to dismiss. Yeah. Do you think, you know, there's one theory I've heard kicked around

as to why, you know, there was the Roswell thing in the 50s and other things. One of the reasons they didn't talk about it was because back then we were really a highly religious nation. And having aliens would show up, would really blow up a lot of people's belief systems of believing in different things. You know, we've created, what, over 3,000 gods and demagogues over the history of man, maybe more. You know, all these stories have been retold millions of times to different characters if you study it. It would, you know, if aliens showed up and we're like, Hey, we helped create you and you're our little ant, ant farm fishbowl. Um, you know, we just been poking at you to see what you do.

Uh, it, it would, it would kind of upset some people and maybe be a real shock to the system. Of course, it's, it's a little hard to run politics if you use religion as a, as a, and as a way to achieve some sort of people's religious or moral goals, as some people do, especially on the right, it's a little hard to sell that narrative if that narrative doesn't exist because aliens are real, maybe. So I don't know. What do you think about that theory? Well, certainly I think that has some validity.

But I think if you look deeper into it, they have to ask the question, well, okay, the creator may also created the aliens. Yeah. And maybe this is the way in which the creator decided to have human beings develop. Maybe he wants us to do battle with each other. Well, maybe he wants us to learn from each other. Oh, there you go. I don't know. I mean, that's above my pay grade, but quite frankly, you know, I really do believe that, you know, one of the things I learned in the research that I did, as I said, I spent about a year researching this.

There are some very important people that have sworn that they have seen these things. For example, I have four astronauts in my book. I've got the Apollo astronauts, I got Cooper, Mitchell, and Slayton, and every one of them have said at one time or another that during their tour in NASA, they have seen extraterrestrials. Wow. Now, these are trained observers. These are not just the average person. Yeah, they're not some crackpot in a trailer home. Now, believe me, there are examples of crackpots.

For example, I don't know if you remember there was an incident, I think it was in the year about 92, where they supposedly found an alien image on a cathedral that was being rehabbed in Spain. And it really did look like one of our astronauts. Well, it turned out that one of the guys working on the rehab put the alien on the building. All right. So there are absolutely stories out there that are bogus. Yeah.

And that's one of the things I point out in my book. What do you think about, you know, have you seen those alien? They drew basically what looks like an alien in the dirt. And the only way to see it is from the air or space. You know, those places in South Africa or South America. There's like two places that distinctly look kind of like an alien space dude. What do you think about those things? Those are kind of creepy.

They are. what do you think about those things those those are kind of creepy they are and and when i started what i started with in my book is i went back 20 000 years and i took a look at some of the drawings and caves and all cliffs and walls and i thought to myself well i don't think these people were trying to scam anybody 20 000 years ago our ancestors probably drew what they saw. Yeah, yeah. And the other thing that has really interested me, and is included in my book, is how all of these buildings, these pyramids, the Sphinx, there's a stone that is in Lebanon. This stone weighs 1,650 tons.

That's 3.3 million pounds. It is perfectly hewn. It has perfect right angles. And the question is, how could anyone thousands of years ago move something like that? And how would it have been carved? Yeah. I mean,

it begs the question, did they have help? Is that the Balbeck stones? Yes, that's correct. That is the Balbeck stones. There we go. And you also have the 24 sarcophagi that they found recently in Egypt that weigh approximately 100 tons each. Yeah.

And they put a square on them, and they are perfectly 90 degrees. Wow. I mean, we would have a hard time with our technology today to duplicate some of those things yeah i mean it's it's huge i'm looking at it right now on the on the internet which is and uh that that is that is completely wild um okay how many slaves you have you're not going to pick up 3.3 million pounds. That's true, huh? And there's kind of a, we've had scientists on, and humans were kind of dumb animals for, well, they haven't changed much if you've seen politics. That's all.

Humans haven't changed much in, hadn't changed much for a long time after they were after they started walking or trying to walk upright. And then there was a time where something clicked in our history. And this is from scientists and people we've had on the show of reputable universities. We don't have the people on from the trailer parks, just me. And there's something that clicks. And we awaken and we suddenly have consciousness that we have now where we can sit around and look at our belly buttons and go why are we here and blah blah blah and wonder about stuff like that um before that we were just like most animals wandering around just doing stuff and just being like i don't do the thing and uh, uh, big stone, you know, that sort of thing.

Somehow we clicked into consciousness and there's something that happened and they don't know whether it's, uh, evolution. Some people have suggested that, you know, the aliens came down and said, Hey, look at these dumb ass animals. And let this, you know, touch them with the whatever thingy and bing consciousness. I don't know. What do you think about that? Well, when you take a look at what we're doing today with DNA, we are able now to, we would be able to create people with blue eyes if we want them.

We'd be able to alter the sex with the DNA. So if we at the level we are at are able to do that if you assume that aliens are significantly more sophisticated you're absolutely correct they could have very well done that and that could have been the spark that changed us from being dragging our knuckles on the ground uh to putting uh uh satellites in in orbit wow And somehow these stones got built and they say, you know, there's rumors and there's rumors, I don't know, there's theories that, you know,

a lot of the temples that were built were built to the aliens and some sort of alien sort of, I don't know, technology or communication device or, you know, I don't know, they were cell towers for aliens or something, I don't know. They were cell towers for aliens or something. I don't know.

But I'm serious about it. There is a pyramid in, it's in central Mexico. It's Theo Tycam, I believe it's called. It has, they found in the guts of this thing a pool of liquid mercury, and they also found mica. Now, what is really strange is mercury does exist in liquid form in rocks to some degree, but the quantity that they found in this pyramid with the mica, there's some theories that it might have been an electrical generation facility.

Oh, wow. You know that we have, there are pyramids in every occupied continent except, we don't know because we haven't thought it out yet, Antarctica. And they're almost all oriented the same. Yeah, that's true. Now, one of the things that I did find when I was looking at how could these things have been built, there are three theories that I've come up with or that I've discovered about how they could possibly move such heavy stones. One is that they would infuse the stone with helium-3 and reduce its weight by 90%. Now, that's all well and good, except that I'm not sure how you infuse a stone with helium.

Yeah. At least not with the technology we have, okay? Yeah. That's one theory. Another theory is that by using harmonics and sound, that you can cause things to levitate. That's what we do on Fridays around here. Well, that's a good thing to do.

Yeah. The third is that giants move these stones. Now, the interesting thing is, recently, they discovered in a place called Karia in southwest Turkey, a bunch of skeletons. When I say a bunch, I'm talking thousands. This is a report I read of humanoids that were 35 feet tall. Oh, really? 35. Now, think of that.

However, even a humanoid 35 feet isn't going to pick up 3 million pounds. That's true. And even if you then would accept any of those as to how did the stones get moved that we're talking about, how did they get cut? Yeah, that's true.

The cut is amazing. That's just, I don't know. Like I said, I think we would be hard-pressed today to duplicate that. Maybe the two, I think it's the one or two South American giant spacemen that you can't really tell who they are unless you see them from actual space. Yes. Which really blows my mind is maybe they were giants. Maybe they were big guys that were super lifters and they could just go,

where do you guys want these Lego pieces and put them over there, stuff like that. Maybe that was the thing. It's very possible. I mean, one of the things that I have concluded from the research that I've done on this and other things is the more we learn, the more we realize what we know to begin with. Yeah. Well, that's the most interesting thing. I always say release all the files um but like i said it you lose some political uh value there because

politics is inherently especially with what's going on right now in our country religions technically i guess always been a part of politics i mean in the 50s they added in god we trust to our coins uh you know i mean it we're we seem to be in this battle lately, especially with what's been going on with religious extremism. And, you know, I mean, it's, you know, there's battles like that around the world. We're seeing Israel and the Palestine going at it right now. And, you know, the battle of religions. And so, you know, it's so inherent our thing and i think that uh having aliens you know become a part of the narrative it disables a lot of religious sort of text because you're like i

don't know you can even you can even run a theory as to maybe there was a reason jesus walked on water maybe he was an alien i don't know maybe i'm an alien maybe you're an alien they were all aliens i don't know well it depends on your definition of an alien i guess there you go there you go and what do we know what the definition of an alien is right because because uh you know i we're still discovering the universe but yeah these are all interesting things and you weave them not only into the book that you wrote uh in 2021 and you discuss it and what the u.. reporting was and 143 sightings since 2004. And, you know, there's a point where when I first used to hear about these when I was young in the 70s and I'd read all these books about alien stuff

and you'd read about stuff and you'd be like, I don't know, that guy just probably smoked some wacky, halfy weed and threw back too many beers and the anal probing is a little much all the time i don't know what that's about like why does it always have to be the anal probing and you're you're like surely they've got something better to do than do colonoscopies on us um but i don't know there's there's the the cow things where they you know these cows will be found that have parts missing and the way they're taken apart is kind of weird. I don't know if you have any theories on that.

But yeah, there's a limit to our knowledge and what we know. I mean, that seems to be the case on a lot of different things, really, when it comes down to it. Well, it's interesting because I have just submitted, we're going to have a second edition to the UFO book. Oh, are you? There you go. And we have added a wealth of material to the next book.

The title, I believe, is going to be are they out there and uh you mentioned for example the uh the the cattle mutilation that's been all over the world and it has it started the first one they knew of was back in 1800 something wow but the interesting thing is about it is there's no question that these animals have been mutilated but there's a few other things that are very interesting. Number one, the surgical technique is simply they don't understand it. That's number one. Number two, they have found that a lot of the especially the cows that have been mutilated, they're the most often found animal. The legs have been mutilated, they're the most often found animal,

the legs have been shattered as if they were dropped. Okay? And the third thing is that these carcasses would normally be eaten by crows and other animals. They won't touch them. Wow. So that's one of the things we've looked at. We looked at the alien abduction issue. And there have been a lot of studies on it,

including a couple at Harvard, where they've interviewed these people. They put them under deep hypnosis. And there's no doubt that these people believe they were abducted. Okay. And of course, then you have the things like you were talking about the images. You have the crop circles. Yeah.

The crop circles. Crop circles are all over. And some of them appear to have coding in them, like mathematical coding. And some people believe that they're an attempt, the legitimate ones, and here again, there are some that are not legitimate, I understand. Legitimate ones may very well be an attempt to communicate using mathematics that are embedded in these crop circles. One of the studies that I found that I have in the new book goes into how the actual stalks are being bent.

And they're not being bent, at least not in some of the crop circles, physically. They're not just being bent over like with a board. They are actually found that a side of the stalk has been blown out. And they believe the way that it happens is that there was some sort of like a microwave focused on the stalks that heated up the moisture in the stalks and blew out a side of the stalk. Hmm. and blew out a side of the stalk. So, you know, if that really is how some of the crop circles were created, here again, we're talking about not only a sophistication that we don't have, but you can only do that from above.

Yeah. Maybe they're trying to talk to us, but, you know, they don't know our language. We don't know theirs. Well, and since they're superior, they're probably trying to figure a way to talk to somebody that's a little, you know, like we talk to a dog. Wait, are we the dog? I'm afraid in this case we might be. Well, if you figure they're crossing light years of time and space and travel, they're probably a little bit more advanced than us. Plus, I mean, if you've seen us lately,

we're not that advanced. So there you go. Get on social media at a given day and you'll see how far we've really come. What is that old line from George Carlin? Think how dumb the average person is and realize 50% of the population is dumber than them.

And there's some people that are making a Olympic sport of it to see how far they can go down the dunning kruger world but that's why we have the show ladies and gentlemen is to make you guys smarter people listen to the show and make you guys more educated even if you know some things or theories you can have more to say what you know but uh you know there's an old there's an old saying about life that i love uh there's three things that are important in life there's the things you know the things you know you don't know and that's you know you can work on that if you want to learn you know physics or something

or algebra and there's things you don't know that you don't know and those are i think the most intriguing things to wonder about life because you know expanding your mind expanding your universe even if you can't master something at least you can be like hey i know about that thing but i don't know about it but it's kind of interesting so uh it's really cool and i love how you weave this into not only books you're writing about real life into your novels and stuff so this makes for great content on both sides of the aisle. Well, I believe that some science fiction is not fiction at all. It's just things that haven't happened. Look at

Jules Verne. We didn't know anything about nuclear submarines when that book was written. And some of the stuff on Star Trek, phasers, your communication toys. Our government's testing those things right now

Yeah I saw an article where they've actually Let a contract to see if it's possible To transmit things From point A to point B Like the transporter I mean think of that If we could transport

Even inanimate objects, not humans Not living things You could transport something from point A to point B in the midst of an eye. It was a flick of an eye. Yeah. Just take matter. It would do just the supply chain in this country, in this world. Maybe that's how they moved the stones.

They had, you know. Maybe they did. They said, beam me up, Scotty, eh? Yeah. Beam that stone up and put it back down. Yeah, could be. Put the coordinates in, maybe that GPS back then. It's definitely interesting.

I mean, I remember seeing the spaceman from space in South America and just getting eerie goosebumps. I'm like, okay, that's a little too much. Those guys didn't have airplanes, so they couldn't see if what they were even doing was right when they drew it. Like, there's no way to go, hey, did we do that right? Unless you had space guys going, hey, that was pretty good, man. Yeah, good job, man. A little more shading on this side, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. You missed a little off the foot. Are you familiar with the elongated skulls in Peru? No. All right. There were some, I think it was 1927 they were actually discovered. In any event, there are some elongated skulls that were found in Peru. And the pictures are like you would see our idea of the grays, the gray aliens today.

Oh, wow. They've been experimenting with those skulls for some time. And with the development of DNA and the techniques that we've used, they have finally been able to use the, they've been able to extract some DNA from the dentin in the teeth. You know, that's one of the best places that you can get DNA because it's protected by the enamel on the teeth. Oh, wow. And they removed this DNA and they've been able to work with it.

It took five years for them to process, as in the article that I have cited in my book. And the conclusion of the experts on the DNA from the teeth in these elongated skulls is that they are unlike anything they have ever seen on Earth. Oh, wow. There you go. Now, that's physical evidence. Yeah. It's definitely interesting, man.

It is. It's fascinating. At least it is to me. I think it is. Yeah. I'm looking over the thing here. So these are all interesting stuff, man. Give us any final pitch out on your books

and the Alien Step In book as well as we go out. Well, the reason I write is I want to sort of impart my ideas. Hopefully people will look at them, maybe learn something, maybe be interested to look at things themselves. Because I think there's so much out there to learn. And one of the things that we are seeing today is the rate at which we're learning is a geometric progression. It's not lineal. It's getting faster and faster.

I mean, when you take a look at things like AI, when you take a look at quantum computers that are on the horizon, these things are going to just accelerate the ability for us to learn about things. And as I said, I like to get people to think. I like to entertain them. Oh, yeah, it's an ego thing when you get people saying nice things about what you've written. But I really do believe that we need more people looking at things and saying,

is this possible? Or do we really know all of this? Or is this really the way it was? I mean, just think in my third sci-fi book, The Aliens Step In, at the end of the book, the aliens give us a gift. And the gift is the ability to go back to any point in time and see what happened. We can't change anything, but we can see what happened.

Just think if we had such a thing. Yeah. It would be wild. And maybe that's how they travel through time. we can see what happened. Just think if we had such a thing. Yeah. It would be wild. And maybe that's how they travel through time, is they've got time machine. Well, time machine, wormholes. And the other thing that I looked at is parallel dimensions.

Ah, there you go. I think Elon Musk has joked about that. That's right. Well, Einstein had some theories about some of this stuff, too, which lends credence. And as I say, I try to impart some science into what I'm writing, but I'm careful to not get it to a point where it goes over people's heads. You know what I mean? Like, for example, one of the things that I was trying to explain in my new book about the UFOs is the enormity of the universe, which at the end of my book, I'm going to have 16 color pictures from Hubble and Webb telescopes, because I want to show the enormity of what's out there and so um i you know i i think that in doing this it will stimulate some people's interest again get them to think um read more and uh that's that's really what i'm about uh i'm

fascinated by some of this stuff and i like to write it down and have others look at it. There you go. The more you know. And you can pick up his books. Give us your.com where people can find you on the interwebs, please. Okay. It's, again, geneablebooks.com. If you go onto my website, just click on the cover of any of my books.

It will take you to the book, and every one of my books has an audiobook trailer. It's a little green button. You just click it, and it will give you a three-minute capsulized version of what the book's about. You can then buy the book from Amazon by clicking on the little red button. You can take a look at what other readers have said. Because, you know, I think it's important. I can tell you that I wrote the book as the best things in sliced bread, but I'm the author. But when I see the comments that people have written, like I say, from Goodreads and from

Amazon, I'm very pleased. But, you know, I include some of those on my website because that way if people are at all interested in one or more of my books, they can see what others have read, have said that have read the books. There you go. There you go. Well, this should be really interesting. And people should order up your book. Thank you very much, Gene, for coming up the time. Thank you for having me on.

Thank you for coming. We've had a great discussion. We went from aliens fiction To aliens reality And all sorts of good stuff For the alien folks out there Order the book folks, wherever fine books are sold July 18, 2023 Came out, The Aliens Step In

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