The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – The Bible’s Prophecy about the Free World by Daniel Martinovich

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

The Bible’s Prophecy about the Free World by Daniel Martinovich Amazon.com Wordservice.org There are over a hundred chapters of Bible prophecy about a growing free world before the book of Daniel ever uttered a word of end time prophecy. A world in which kings and emperors, dictators and warlords, are being brought to nothing. A world in which there is no more legal slavery and the earthly promises of God made to a hundred generations of saints, unfulfilled in their time, could finally begin to come to pass. This simply could not occur in the ancient despotic world where the poor masses had little to no control of their temporal or even their eternal destinies. The prophecies you will read about in this book promised an era of conditional freedom and prosperity for many nations. They promise God’s people who live in these nations will be free from the fear of oppression, and that they will be able to raise their children as they see fit. They promise the nations and peoples most influenced by the Bible and its principles will be the dominant nations in the world, just as they have been for the last 500 years. None of this occurred when the Messiah came, or with the end of the first covenant age and the horrible destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. In fact, it got even worse for true believers after that. It certainly did not occur when European empires and kingdoms began to claim Christianity. This all began to occur in a specific year prophesied in Daniel and Revelation, and for a specific reason. The journey you take through “The Bible’s Prophecies about the Free World” is going to change your life and rock the world around you. Nothing will ever be the same. “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him,” (1 Corinthians 2:9).

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With expert publishing to strategic marketing, they help authors reach their audience and maximize their book's success. Today we have Danielle Markinovich on the show. He is the author of the book called The Bible's Prophecy About the Free World out September 14th, 2022. We're going to talk to him as books, some of his insights, his ministries, et cetera, et cetera. And some of the things he thinks we have coming down the pike here, because you never know.

It's a weird world. 2025 has been kind of weird so far anyway. Daniel, welcome to the show. How are you? Daniel, how are you? I am excellent. I am excellent. It's good to have you give us your dot coms. Where do you want people to find you on the interwebs? I have

a teaching website called word service.org has lots of pages on there. Some, some articles on there have been number one on our Google search or at least on the first page for decades. And it's all Bible teaching stuff and history and Americans founding, that type of thing. Pete So, give us a little bit of lowdown about you and who you are and what you do. David I've been a Christian for about 42 years now, and a lot of prepper had basically been in vocational ministry almost the entire time. time wasn't full time for a little while. And, but I had lots of kids, six kids, and that takes a lot of time raising kids with the family and the internet.

When it started to come out about, you know, 20 or 30 years ago, it was 1990, 1996 is when we started to get into that. I just saw a great, a great opportunity in it to where you could reach the world without, you know, spending a whole bunch of money or having to raise a whole bunch of money. It's really nice. The internet, I like it. So some parts of it, let's put it that way.

I don't like the whole internet because there's a bunch of weirdness that goes on the dark web, but yeah, it's kind of nice. I grew up in the, in the brick and mortar world. When you started businesses and you had to spend this money to build it, you know, get an office, lease an office deposits and then you had to put all the stuff in it. And yeah, it's a lot of whole lot easier to pay 20 bucks to go to any and you have a business on the one. Yeah. And you can probably reach, you can kind of reach more people. I think there's a lot of teleministries, aren't there, or internet ministries now? Yeah.

Yeah. My website's getting about, I don't know, about 12,000 or 13,000 visits a month by about eight or 9,000 different people and 200,000 hits, but you know, the hits don't really mean that much. Yeah. Yeah. So, so yeah, that's still a lot of interest, so that's good.

Pete Slauson Yeah, yeah. Pete Slauson I don't know. You talk about this book, The Bible's Prophecy about the free world. And what, so give us an idea of what this is. Is this, are you focusing on what the Bible said about maybe things that are coming down the pike? I mean, I just kind of want to know if there's something going on tomorrow I need to schedule or in the end of the world, things along those lines. Tell us about some of the prophecies that you discuss in the book.

David Kudlow First off, it's what the prophecies I'm focusing on are the ones that were to occur after the Roman Empire ended. That was 1453 AD, what had been its capital since 333 AD, Constantinople fell. And that is when Daniel chapter two and Daniel chapter seven and the book of Revelation said we would see this phenomena of a growing free world. And what happened, I'll just say what happened is that's when the Bible got into the hands

of the general public, right? Exactly at that time, it's invention of the printing press, the powers that existed were pretty much able to keep a lid on, on, on it. It was, it was illegal to have a Bible without permission from the authorities all that time. And so these Bibles are legal. That would be afraid of, I don't know, uprising dissidents. Exactly. Exactly. This was kings and emperors and they rightly understood. I don't know why Christians don't understand that today, but they rightly understood that the Bible in the hands of the general public was a threat to their rule Wow

That's why you see that that's why you see any dictatorship today tries to keep the Bible out of people's hands a USSR did North Korea does any Islamic? Dictatorship tries that they all eventually lose but but that that's that's why it's it's really to them It's very fundamental. This is a threat to our rule. And that's why we got this free world. I mean, right when that empire fell, Northern Europe got them first and they, they tried to take them away and that was followed by another first in human history was they were able to fight off the armies that came to take that because they did send military force

to stop what they considered a cancer. So you got the Dutch Republic up there for 200 years. Yeah. And I mean, just think of this in the Dutch Republic in the seven major cities, uh, you had to own up. You had to be a citizen. You had to own a Bible, prove that you read it every day, and you had to own a firearm. Now, then right across the border, you could still get burned at the stake for holding a Bible. I mean,

that's pretty crazy. You don't travel in that case then. Yeah, it was rough. It was very rough. Very bad time. But the thinking that developed up there migrated over to North America. And this free world, cause that's what it was. It was a Dutch Republic. It was actually a free country. I'm not studied it too much, but, but in North America and now ever since then, the free, no matter what happens to try and stop it, the free world still growing. And this didn't exist in the ancient world. There was nothing like this. I mean, it was it was great when these prophecies were written. It was crazy Though what what I mean, how would you how would you like the world's most powerful men?

Like in the Roman Empire for instance back then to be sacrificing animals It was imposed on the public There's the worship of idols and the high priesthood of that was government officials would study the entrails of how the animals plopped on the ground to Make government policy. You don't think you don't see that in the movies It was crazy. And so in that backdrop these prophecies were written Hmm, I like to point the people to you know, Mel Gibson's movie What's on movie the one about Jesus? No, what's that movie? The one about Jesus. No, that's down in the Amazon or on Central America, Apocalypto.

Oh yeah, I did. Yeah, it's very gory, but they show a procession where they capture a bunch of other tribal members and they bring them up and sacrifice them on these things. And that was half the world back then. Yeah. I'm going to, I might, I might, I might just try that just to, just to make sure it doesn't work. You know, I might take a stake and throw it on the floor next time I get one and just see how the splatter works and see if maybe it'll tell me, maybe it'll tell me some good stock market or Bitcoin investment data

or you could ask a one of the other. Oh, that's a good idea. I should try that. Maybe that might be better. Why didn't they do that back then? Ask AI. The world was just dark. This is something that God wants. God wants the world to totally change and become free and justice. He wants good government, limited government. Because see, that's always the problem. The problem has always been unlimited government. Government has caused most of the evils

the world has ever seen. And when it gets too big, they just have this class of people that want to run it. You know, they live their lives to run the thing and run your lives and take your money. It's really, you know, the love of money is root of all evil. So, and God prophesied how this how the Bible prophesies how this was all going to change after the Roman Empire fell. And, and that's the only thing different that happened was the Bible made its way into the hand of

people's hands, the general public's hands. Pete And so, the free world… David There's a book right there. Pete Yeah. Now, when you refer to the free world, what are you talking about, you know, kind of the free world that like America built or just the free world that's free of the arcane sacrificing and stifled governments that say, hey, we only have one religion, this is our religion. We eliminated all the other competition.

You can't, you know, like when the pioneers came here, they were seeking freedom religion from kind of, I think the Church of England, I think, or something like that. Okay. Because I wanted to make sure I understood the concept of the free world and I guess free to read whatever you want for fun, right? Yeah. That's basically freedom from despotic government, kings and emperors, that's the rule of the rule of man, not the rule of the rule of man. Not a rule of the rule of not a not the rule of a rule of law

Republics Republics based on objective truth is really what it's talking about Okay, and and so you see right now I mean before the whole world was all kings and emperors and now The whole idea of a king or an emperor is like an abomination to everyone Nobody believes in that kind of government anymore. We don't like dictatorships and even dictators sit there and say, what's the will of the people I'm elected? That's, that's how, that's how the world's just changed in the five years. I'm knocking stuff around here, waving my hands. Is that powerful?

Yeah. So that's what it is. You know, it's, it's, it doesn't say it's going to be a utopia. It says there's going to be a lot of warfare to try and stop it from growing this free world and, and that's what we've seen. And, and, but, you know, it's not like the straight line up better and better and better, it's more, you know, like that, but it's going up. straight line up better and better and better. It's more, you know, like that, but it's going up. Pete In the book, is it pretty much a detailed historical thing of the struggles of trying to bring the Bible to the public and get freedom where people can have access to it? Is that

a good thing? J.C. No, because there's so much written about that already. Pete Okay. J.C. Yeah, that's very, very standard Christian writing. This is just focusing there. A third of the book is, is, is, is chapters from the Bible. Okay. And I, I guess I know what happened. I mean, World War One, World War Two, the rise of the progressive movement, which basically means government runs everything. Because before that, people actually understood those prophecies. And in the last hundred

years, boy, we just went off of them. It's all in time prophecy. It's all the end of the world stuff. And the Bible doesn't even prophesy the end of the world. It prophesies the end of certain nations and certain empires. and it actually gives the dates. And so I don't understand why people just ignore that. They just ignore the date that the Bible says this is going to happen. They ignore the empire that it's speaking about. I mean, it names the empire that's going to end at this certain time. They just ignore that and say, this is talking about the end of the world. And you're just bought. And once, once the Bible colleges started teaching this stuff, it just kind of went mainstream. And, and so I think we, I think the world needs to get back to Isaiah chapter 60 and 61 and 62 and Isaiah chapter 54. Because what they

talk about it is, you know, you've heard of the new Jerusalem, right? Uh-huh, right the last two chapters of Revelation. Mm-hmm There there's about a couple dozen chapters of prophecy about the New Jerusalem, but it's in the Old Testament And they define Revelation revelations not heaven revelation is an illustration. I mean, excuse me Revelation is not heaven. Revelation is an illustration, I mean, excuse me, Jerusalem is an illustration of God's people oppressed for the time prior to the end of the Roman Empire. God's people oppressed and New Jerusalem oppressed this whole time.

I'll give you an example. When a certain emperor took control, he's referred to as the little horn of Daniel 7, Sevarus, death penalty for becoming a Christian. That was 193 AD, was the beginning of his reign. And when you get up to the Christian emperors, and I'm not saying Christianity, the Christianity of those empires wasn't a step up from the madness of idolatry. But Emperor Justinian, he was really a fame, tried to reestablish the whole empire around 500, around that time, around the century AD. He made it the death penalty to get baptized as an adult if you were baptized as a baby before and see before you're baptized into the imperial church after getting baptized

as an adult you're in you're committing treason against the emperor. No. Yeah, so that's so that's oppression. So here, here, the true Christians were oppressed by this all the way up until The Roman Empire and they got Bibles and they had to win their freedom It wasn't just oh, all of a sudden. This is just changing. No, they had to win it They had to fight for we have to fight for now, you know, we have to fight for freedom Yep, people are always trying to control you governments and everything

trying to control you, governments and everything. And so, like I said in the back page of my book, I said there's about 100 chapters of prophecy about this free world. That's a lot. The book of Revelation is all talking about all that judgment and revelation. A little bit of it is talking about the destruction of Jerusalem, but most of it's all aimed at the Roman Empire. And that's all in there. It's all in there, what happened, when it happened, what this was talking about. I mean, the very first big one was Cyprian's plague against the Roman Empire that fell on. And that killed a third of the people in the empire. That's a horrible, horrible thing. Destroyed their infrastructure.

And so that's what all those, those judgments are. They were murdering, murdering all the Christians. They could get a hold of. Yeah. There's a lot of burn going on. Yeah. So that, that kind of, it kind of brings that upon them. You know, I'm not saying God send it, but you know, you, you go doing

stuff like that and there's a lot of bad stuff. Wow. Yeah, there's a lot of everyone was killing everybody back then. Yeah, that is a fruit. That's a, that's something that's a good, we're a little bit better than that. I don't know that we really are with, you know, we've got a couple of wars going cooking around the world there. You know, human nature, we're kind of an interesting little species guy going on there. So tell us about how you were raised, what were some of your influences, your story of your journey through life, when did you first discover religion and when did you kind of know you want to start a ministry and have a calling for it?

Daniel M. Gries I was, it's nothing spectacular, I just was a young man. Pete Slauson Alright, we'll just skip it then, Daniel. Daniel M. Gries then, Daniel. Yeah. I had read part of the Bible as a young person. I'm talking preteen and tween. And to me, I knew, because I'd also read the Quran back then. And I always liked to read stuff. I was like, read the Quran or read some of the Hindu Sanskrit.

And I just, I just saw that the Bible's the word of God. To me, that's it. Just seemed that way to me back then, but that's not like I wanted to do what it said. And so I pretty much had a, it was a very, very bad kid, really bad kid. You were a bad kid. Oh yeah. In trouble with the law. It was horrible. My parents did not deserve what I did to them was all I can put around 22. I

Have been calling me all this time around 22. I became a Christian by reading the Bible I read the new I had never read the New Testament. I have read the Torah and read the book of Revelation I read Daniel when I was a little kid. I never read the New Testament when I read it. I I never read the New Testament when I read it. I keep the Lord right away. Just just cried myself. That's how I was going to help. And I cried myself to sleep and just woke up and everything was new. And yeah, everything just seemed new to me. And a few years later, I just felt the call into the ministry and started studying like a mad man. And the funny funny thing is about this, you know, so I got married and I had been like quoting Isaiah 6, I was very zealous, so part of my devotions were like quoting whole chapters of the Bible to myself.

Wow. Just like Isaiah 6, the rise and shine, your light has come, the glory of the Lord is risen upon you. For behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness to people but the Lord will rise upon you and his glory shall be seen upon you the Gentiles the nation shall come to your light in kings of the brightness of your rising uh that's talking about the new Jerusalem well uh good job man that's good memory yeah i'm not even doing that anymore. I should be reading it off my phone. I've gotten too old to remember stuff to do.

Yeah, I'm I have to wake up in the morning and check the mirror and be like, what, who, who's this? Who's this raggedy old man for me? Oh, me. Yeah. Who's the guy that looks homeless? No, I'm just I do look I do look homeless in the morning But takes it takes a lot of coffee to move the machine So one day I'm reading all these scriptures every day for a couple years And and it says right above if you've got a study Bible, it'll say New Jerusalem right above chapter 60

And it has all kinds of references because Revelation quotes Isaiah chapter 60 more than any other chapter in the Bible. And it's New Jerusalem. And my wife and I had moved back to Texas. We kind of got our butts whooped out in California in the ministry. We moved back to Texas and people are going to think this is crazy. But an angel of the Lord walked right into the room where on the first night they were sleeping on our friends living on the floor. We didn't see him. And all he did was start opening our minds about, hey, this is the end game.

All these chapters I'm quoting, Isaiah 60, 61, that's what that's God's aim. That's what he's trying to do in the world. And that's how blind I was and that's how blind people can be to those chapters that there's very they're very clear Somebody just got to point it out. It just so happened an angel pointed it out That's a lot of success in pointing it out to other people But you know, I tried to started telling people about me were just like in in the circles I ran with, what planet are you from Mars or something? Well, because I was looking at it as a future thing. I didn't really know at that time.

I mean, this is, this is, this is 35 years ago. I didn't know at that time that, Hey, wait a minute, we're already living this out. It wasn't like this all the time. And, and so it just a road of discovery from that point on to realize, hey, wait a minute, the United States has founded on all of this stuff. And it just was a, it was a, it was a shock to me, but now, now it's more of a thing that we just got to get back to the good book on these, on these issues, because it's not about the end of the world. It's about transforming the world and making it a better place. And here's a prophecy about people getting the Bible, Isaiah 29, 18.

In that day the deaf will hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness. The meek will also increase their joy in the Lord, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. For the terrible one, and what you look up that word in the Hebrew, let's talk about kings and emperors and dictators and world conquerors, is brought to nothing, and scorners consumed and all that wasp burning with your carol." That's just basically what we see happening. That's just a little verse there. I mean, yeah

Okay, are there are there any prophecies that maybe haven't been fulfilled that we should know about cuz like I said I'm scheduling stuff for next month and want to make sure I'll have the about that again. No You'd have to go find prophets For that kind of thing and there's not too many of them out there. I'm going to consult. I'll throw a stake on the, on the ground. See what happens with the blood splat. I can tell you something of something crazy about that.

But if you, all of these prophets that you'll see on the internet, all these prophets, I'm not saying they're not real Christians. I'm not saying they don't really hear from God or they're not prophetic people, are not real Christians. I'm not saying they don't really hear from God or they're not prophetic people. But end time prophecy teachings are the poison to accurate prophecy. They are absolute, but they make it so they can't because if God is going, bringing the world in one direction and they think it's going another direction, anything God even tells them is going to be perverted once they speak it out to you because they just, they're not coming from the same place he is. They're not, and they're not coming from the scripture. And so I've seen some

very accurate prophecies, prophets, prophesied things that were going to happen in the next 10 years back. But back then, they didn't believe in end time prophecy. And then I've watched those same prophets start accepting these end time teachings and just watched them go south. This is the most amazing thing because it's just, that's not where the world is headed. The world is not getting worse and worse. The world is getting better and better. It's a rough road. It has to be won, but our faith is supposed to be in these not on end time prophecies that aren't even talking about the end of the world. They're, like I said, talking about the end of empires and certain kingdoms and

stuff like that. Pete I think we'd had one time on the show a gentleman who was a Bible scholar and he'd written a book talking about Armageddon and that whole thing at the end of the Bible revelations, I think it is. And his claim was, he'd written a lot of books on the Bible, and his claim was that Armageddon already happened. It was angled towards, I think, what you said, like a Roman king or something, and it was kind of around the same time that Paul was alive or Peter, or who was kind of the end

guy there making the call on the revelations? David Yeah, that would probably be pre-Turism, which teaches that the Bible, all of revelation, all of prophecy was fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. And that is, that's just, it's absurd because Daniel already says there's going to be four empires. It names the four empires, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greek and Roman. It says, it distinctly says, I mean that the world is going to be fulfilled with the knowledge of the Lord After the Roman Empire hands and it had to be because we got Bibles to read People didn't really know that and so it's it again it again. They're they're taking they're not looking

They just don't know that they didn't look at Daniel chapter 2 That's that there's Daniel 2 and Daniel 7, that has the same prophecy spoken in different ways. As the Bible goes on from those prophecies, it just gives more details of them. And so they don't look at that and they think they've discovered some big thing when they discovered that, like Matthew 24 is talking about the destruction of Jerusalem. Well, big deal. Okay, that's off.

Who did who? I mean, I realize that that a lot of Christians don't know that, but that's been known for thousands of years. So you discovered that now you think that now you think all prophecy has to fit in that it doesn't know. It's we we we just it's kind of silly it all centers around the doctrine People's doctrine of the second coming of the Lord and you know what that's phrases and even in the Bible the second coming

Oh really? No So who's making that up and why That's an interpretation of certain prophecies in the New Testament. And so, the preachers believe the second coming happened in 70 AD, the others believe the second coming. They all argue and fight over when this is going to happen and the end of the world. But they ignore all of the times where Jesus, the coming of the Lord is a biblical doctrine

and Jesus came down. Remember I don't know if you know the story of Sod Lord is a biblical doctrine. And Jesus came down. Remember, I don't know if you'd know the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, right? Jesus comes down with two angels and has a discussion with Abraham. Abraham addresses him as Jehovah like 18 times. What, why does he have to come down to the planet to discuss with Abraham about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah? And then, then And then Jesus comes, then He comes down again in the burning bush with Moses. And He says, I have come down,

because I've heard the cry of my people, I've come down to now I'm going to punish Egypt, and I'm going to deliver them from that. And so you see this all through the Old Testament. That's just in the book of Genesis. But you go through all through the New Testament, Old Testament, and there's probably two dozen times where the coming of the Lord to judge a certain kingdom or empire uses the exact same language as Matthew does and Revelation does, but it's addressed to a certain empire or kingdom back then. And people just think, my guess is that people accept these teachings before they're ever familiar enough with the Bible to realize, wait a minute, Jesus has been coming to earth for thousands of years,

and he'll continue doing that. So, in Revelation 19, that's the coming of the Lord at the end of the Roman Empire to judge really the whole system of the ancient world and to bring this promise of a free-growing, free world. And billions of people accepting Christ. I mean, right now, as we're speaking, there's 50,000 people today that are accepting Christ somewhere in the world. It's mostly not, it's not here in the United States, but it's all Africa, South America, China,

10,000 Muslims that they are coming to Christ. That's what the Bible says is going to happen. And, and, and, and, and the depth of the cut and the Lord still comes. I mean, when I tell you people I used to understand this, remember the civil war, and what was the North song about that? My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord. Okay they understood that this was the coming of the Lord to judge America because they

weren't doing what the Bible said. The Bible promises promise an end to legal slavery and people were holding back on that. All these Christians in the South are holding back on that. And that brought the Civil War. And they understood, understood that was. I mean, that song is amazing when you read all the verses to it. That was the doctrine, general doctrine of the churches back then. And then, like I said, the 20th century things just kind of crazy. And you can't blame people. I mean, it was horrible. World War I, like I said, the 20th century, things just kind of went crazy. And you can't blame people. I mean, it was horrible.

World War I, World War II, and the world never saw anything like that. Pete Yeah. I mean, it was pretty insane. I mean, World War I's trench warfare and stuff. So tell us about your ministries, your website. I see a lot of stories and teachings on your website. Fill us in as that gap as we round out the show. Phil Most of it is about Bible prophecy, and it's not because I just specialize in that area,

it's just I only have so much time to write. I mean, I'm over, but there's a lot of others, there are other subjects on there. And I am not very proficient in writing and understanding of the English language and grammar. In fact, my wife calls me pretty pathetic. She says I'm getting better. So as far as the prophecy portion of that, I put that in the book. Actually, I was going to go up to, I was moving to Northern Arizona. I was going to start a church, had it all planned out, had a group of people up there and get up there and COVID hits. Oh, yeah, that just blew that out of the water, man.

Was that the process? No. So that's why I decided to write the book. It's all that stuff is in my webpage, but the book is professionally edited. So you're going to look at my website and go, God, this guy doesn't even know how to spell or put a coherent sense down. Okay. But that's why I say the book is professionally edited. It's done very well, very convincing. Pete Slauson Where can people tune into your ministries? David Sinclair I'm not making any podcasts yet. I'm going to do that when I retire in two or four years. I'm going to start making podcasts and it'll be on

that website. There is some audio on there from, from past times. I was teaching at a church or something. Okay. All right then. So get people as we go out and find a pitch out toward the book, get to know you better online. Anything more you think we need to cover? Maybe we didn't touch on here.

Yeah, just the people, you know, the world needs hope. Our whole country now believes that the whole world believes the world's going to end. All right. You know, isn't it just like God to say the exact opposite? I mean, you can go to any of the ancient religions, you go to any Hollywood movie. You show me a Hollywood movie that doesn't have a dystopian end unless it has aliens involved in it. There's no such thing. There's no such thing as a much better world that man creates and gets there. It's all dystopian. It's all end of the world. It's all we're going to kill everything off. Isn't it just, and wouldn't it just be like the Bible to say the exact opposite thing as everybody mean, I mean, the Quran, I read the

first 133 pages of the Quran, every other chapter says you have to believe in three things, Allah, his messenger, and the end times. And you're just going, of course, Muhammad would get down out of the Bible in the end time. It's carnal, it's not very spiritual, it's not really digging into it. And letting God teach you this rather than accepting these narratives before you've ever really become familiar with it yourself anyway. And so that's the issue.

If an army is gonna defeat you, if you're gonna be defeated in war, one of the things of warfare is to convince you that you've lost. Is that not true? To convince you that you've lost, to convince you that you're defeated. So here if you look at these prophecies, these 100 chapters of prophecy, you're going to say, wait a minute, this is not defeat.

This is us. This is the good guys winning. And it's not talking about a theocracy. There's never going to about a theocracy. There's never going to be a theocracy. You know, the founding fathers of United States were very, they were educated in the Bible from their, from their childhood all the way to the university. And they did not found a theocracy. And do you know why that is? Because the Bible doesn't allow for a theocracy. That's, that's, that's, that makes, that's, that's beyond the pale of limited, gives the government too much power that they

shouldn't have. And so that's what I mean. So you don't have to be afraid and think, oh my gosh, these Christians are talking about taking over the world and making us, no, they're not. It's talking about republics based on objective truth, where you get the vote, you get to participate. Like the United States, that's the direction the world's the world's headed and we need to believe in that and If if you believe see these things come by faith, you know We have if we have faith in God on this issue He's gonna work with us along these lines and help bring the world to that point

But if we believe the opposite, what's he supposed to do? I mean, yeah, so that's my pitch. And give us the dot coms as we go out, tell people where we can buy the book, etc, etc. I can buy the book anywhere, Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, my publisher is Westbro, Westbo Press, just type in the Bible's prophecy about the free world that'll just pop right up on your browser all over the place. I noticed some weird website that's claiming authorship for it, so today I don't understand what that is.

I don't know what the deal was at. But uh... They also on Amazon? Yeah, it's on Amazon, yeah. Sometimes what the, there's this kind of weird thing where there's all these companies that will buy your book on Amazon and then resell it at a higher price. It's kind of weird. Yeah, yeah, I see that you see that a lot now. Yeah, that's all it's all over the world on those kind of companies. That's right. It's still my book. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. And so that and you can read the first four chapters on those big websites on Amazon or no farms. No, we can don't let you read the first four chapters on there and websites on Amazon or no Barnes and Nobody can know let you read the first four chapters on there and it comes in on audio not audio yet but ebook or hardcover and hardcover and what's in a softcover and again work word service org it's on there too

you'll lead you to the Amazon website or whatever thank you very much for coming the show it's been very insightful and it's an interesting setup that you've got going on there and people can reach out to your ministry, people can find out more about you and all that good stuff. Yeah. Thank you, Daniel. Appreciate your time. Thank you. And thanks to my honours for tuning in. Order of the Book, wherever five books

are sold, it's called The Bible's Prophecy about the Free World out September 14th, 2022. You can find out more about it in Daniel's works on his website. Thanks, Ryan, for tuning in. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you guys next time.