The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – The Rise to Power (Revised Edition) (The Legacy Series, 1) by David Francis Cook

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

The Rise to Power (Revised Edition) (The Legacy Series, 1) by David Francis Cook https://www.amazon.com/stores/David-Francis-Cook/author/B0C7XFH46F Get ready for the heart-pounding thrills of The Legacy Series – a captivating adventure that combines the best of The Da Vinci Code and National Treasure. Follow James Bannerman throughout history as he seeks to answer those driving questions: “Why are we here?” and “What is our purpose?” If a family can respect its heritage and forefathers, any member can rise to greatness. But the evils of human nature and temptations of life must first be overcome. In The Rise to Power, the first book in The Legacy Series, Cartius, who lives in the previous age of Atlantis, faces a dire choice. He can go with his father to a different star system and continue his way of life at an even higher level of dimension—or he can choose to die, reincarnate, and save his planet. James Bannerman, Tenth Earl of Penbroke, England, is Cartius. Before his death, Cartius makes the fateful decision to remain on Earth. He also leaves his teleportation chair to a faithful servant, and the chair makes its way, under lock and key, to its place as a regal throne in the East Wing of Bannerman’s estate. The decisions Bannerman must face—in a world intertwined with marriage, love affairs, human intrigue, and deception—will define his future. And that of many. A family can become a small nation, then a large nation, and then a great nation with a great legacy. But first it must uncover its true spiritual knowledge. James Bannerman will find the key to that lies in the throne. Along with determining their legacy, Bannerman and his family—whose roots go back to 1704—will also unlock the question man has wrestled with since his earliest beginnings: Why are we here?

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Today, an amazing young man on the show, we're going to be talking about his hot book series called The Rise to Power, Revised Edition, the Legacy Series. We'll start lead off with the first book in the series and talk about the other two. David Francis Cook joins us in the show. We're going to get into with him and some of the details of why he wrote the book and what it's about. David Francis Cook is the author of the Legacy Series who was born and educated in England, which means he's smarter than us here in the U.S. No, I'm just kidding. I know, I'm sure they have a great school system there in England.

His first, he first immigrated to the U.S. in 1967 and moved to America permanently in the 70s. His own legacy is steeped in history. In 1917, his grandfather started in the burgeoning aerospace industry. Decades later, David started as a machinist in the industry and worked his way up through several major aerospace manufacturers. In 1982, he started his own business, which grew to the largest wing manufacturing company in the world. Everybody needs wings last time I checked. That's what Red Bull says. Anyway, he developed an accomplished writer and speaker in that.

industry selling the business to a Belgian consortium in 2003. He, let's see, David has been studying, writing, and growing his writing legacy in the two decades since. He travels around the world and has enabled him to study and understand other cultures contributing to his series of books. He built his own 2.5 mile racetrack in North Texas, the region of the U.S. where most of his grandchildren and family can live. He has a home in Canada from which he likes to write, and he writes books that stress work ethic, discipline, and deep root of values needed to reach for one stream. So welcome the show. How are you, David? I'm good.

Thank you. I'm getting ready for Christmas season. Ah, it's Christmas 2025 if you're watching this video years from now on YouTube. So, yeah, Merry Christmas. Are you in Canada? Are you in the U.S. right now enjoying the... I'm down here in Texas. Oh, Texas. That's quite the difference in play you guys do there, going from Texas to Canada,

especially this time you remember there's snow on the ground up into Canada. Is that a bit of a culture shock when you go back and forth or weather shock? Not really. I had to do a lot of work up in Canada since about 2002 to about 2004 for designing and manufacturing wings for airfield. So that's what brought me there. Because that's what brought me there. because that was my engineering background was what brought me to Canada for these specific wings to be made. Oh, well, that's cool. So the wings are made in Canada. Great.

The wings, they're in Canada. That's where I started. But, yes, that's where Canada is where the main manufacturing was made when I'm there. It's still happening today. Wow. We love Canada. We love Canadians. They're nicest people in the world.

So give us any dot-coms. Where do you want people to find you on the interwebs? On the, for books and things like that. My books are there with Amazon, mainly Amazon. I have, you're probably the first person to come in, to be with me in this situation. Because most of my life, I have been working my ass off. and I've been in engineering work and all kinds of things. And when it came to 2012 and I had, I semi-retired, I was in my early 70s.

I said, it's about time I did something else. I want to write a book and I've dreamt of writing a book all my life. But I went to work on this in, in this book as it starts with the rise to power, which was a young man who started in his age of 13 and was going on to his son. senior school. And then the books was The Temptation to Greed. Problem being with people when they get too successful, they go beyond their means. So the second book kind of gives that opinion. In the third book, he is all about, he has a leaning towards his, not his religious, but his spiritual side of life. And he wanted to bring about things that people should know.

and a lot of things in the justification for injustice is sometimes by life of a higher purpose treats you a hell of a lot more than you think you know. Ah, live that higher purpose. So tell us some of the characters in the book. Described maybe some of the... The main character of the book, and it starts, the overall story goes from 1704, believe it or not, to... 233. But a lot of that is historical. So James' story starts in 1958. He's 13 years old and he's very anxious to get ahead with his new work, which is in the last part of his education. And so he works, it starts out where James is sitting there having his breakfast and his father calls in.

and tells him, hey, it's about time you learn something about your family. So he picks him up, he takes him down the long hallway. To give you some background, they're obviously a wealthy family. They're in the farming industry. But the family has been in shipping and banking since the early days of life, not life, I'd say, but it's in 17004 so he wasn't part of that but he he's part of the history and the family that created where john bannerman james bannerman who is the main character of the book he's only 13 and he's ready to start to get into life and get cracking so they go down the hallway the father takes him out

and he says it's time you learn something about the about us and your country must my boy So he goes up and down the hallways and talks to all the past, how shall I say, earls of the society, of who their characters are and how they built what he has today since 17004. So there's a whole history there. Outside that, there's a very interesting part of the book, which has in the main house, which is a large mansion. House, has been around the long time, has an East Wing. In the East Wing, there's a lot of things that get saved artifacts or artifacts, all kinds of things that belong to the history of their life and what goes on. But in this main East Room, they used to have parliament, not parliaments, but all kinds

of people to come out and look at all the things that have been collected through their family through the year. They can also turn it into a ballroom or whatever they want to do. Now in this throne room, which is very interesting, there's a throne. And nobody knows what this throne is. This you have you probably, have you seen the picture of my books? Yes, I have the cover. Okay, that cover gives you an idea. There's a throne there. And there's a throne there. And there's something above it. Nobody's in the family has solved what this throne is other than the fact that he came from the Far East and it's part of the family and it ended up in this East Room.

James is sitting down there thinking about, well, it's about time I sat on this damn thing. And I've been watching it all my life and everything else. What does it do? What's this throne supposed to do? He moves over to it. and he starts to sit down in it. And all of a sudden, he realizes something very different. And all the rest of the people who are watching him just see him as a steady person.

But he advances through to a higher level. This is the three-dimension in this particular earth. He moves to what is called the fifth dimension. So there's a whole story there where he goes through the light, the power and everything else and he finds himself sitting on a beach and he realizes this man comes up to talk to him and he thinks, my God, what's happened? Am I dead? What happened there?

You know, did I disappear? And the man said, my God, you finally killed up with me. Now come over here. I'm going to teach you some lessons. And so he goes into the whole story. story of telling him about his past lives, where he is today, and where he's going to be going for the tomorrow. James is absolutely saying, God, am I dead? What the hell happened? He said, don't worry.

He says, I'll let you get back to where you need to be. But he says, there's a lot of people who don't realize that life on Earth is not about three dimensions. There's a whole journey of the universe. universe to be learned. However, the little bit of time that we are on this planet, which is the three score and ten as the Bible says, or a hundred years, or whatever it is, it's extremely short. If you can imagine the galaxies and all the various things that are in the universe, the planet Earth is peanuts. You can only go as far as about the outer zones of Pluto and the other places,

and you can't even, you know, you couldn't even, how shall I say, talk of what happens in just this galaxy. So it's a huge subject of which he becomes extremely fascinated and interested with, not to get, it's down to earth, it's got all the subjects there, but from there onwards, the story starts to take its place, where he starts to go to his schools, et cetera, et cetera. Have you got any more things you want to know? And so this character goes through the books, and then tell us about the other books in the trilogy, the second and the third one.

That story takes him all the way. He has to learn to be all the things that his family and everything is done. The second book moves into where he's now got his position. he's got his power in life and his father has died in the process and in the first book he just he goes through with that essence in the in the

in the what do you call it the the throne room but in the second book he is starting to start his life to earn money and build the business and because his family is connected to so many places in the world. After all, they've been in business now for what, over 200 years, and his father's died. He, at a very early age of 20, has to take over

the businesses. The businesses are in London. Are you there? Yep, I'm here. Something came up on the screen. He, he's out there to learn and go through where a lot of his family and and people that he's known are in this next part of the book. And it's in it, there's love affairs. It's all kinds of stories, of family that is enormous. It'd be too big to even explain it. So it has its dementia. It has its philosophical things that he's very fascinated with.

But not all, he doesn't show this in the book with all his other people. he has very few people that would most people say what the hell are you talking about you know people don't understand all that kind of stuff so he has to tread very carefully with his thoughts and his ways but his main role now in his second book is to make his life happen and that takes him because he's a person that knows very much about his family before he starts on his journey to go to many places in the world in order to advance, first of all, his banking. Second of all, his family has a shipping empire. And in addition to that, the banking, the shipping, and his everyday work, he has a farm.

Yeah. And about 5,000 acres. So the whole is, I mean, I can explain it to you, but there's an awful lot to be. he said and we want to be we want people to buy the book so definitely want to leave some of it in the dark I mean I have a lot

of people who are very fascinated with what's written and it's different what I'm trying to do is engage in we for all of us we're not here that long I think you believe in life

and I think it's very important to realize that in today's world, we have become extremely, what would the right word be, materialistic. Really? Well, materialistic in the, I need this, I need to buy that, I need to have this, I need all these things, and then I feel good. And if I don't have what I should have and what I've worked for, I'm not happy. There's a lot of that going around these days. exactly it's happy whereas instead of realizing that you have reached an extremely fortunate place of life

but usually that comes with luxury and when you have this luxury you tend to not be you don't push as hard as you should you get lazy and when you sit back in the earlier ages where life was tougher tougher you had to get out there and work for it Yeah, got to get out of the port for it. Even though we think life is tough and it's difficult, in a way we are probably from a living point of view, one of the best places that we could be in the future. But what's the problem today is that we have to grow beyond what we are. And in the realm of what I went with when he goes to see his master,

obviously the big thing is you move from being a materialistic person. You have energy. The growth of a person in your afterlives, if you meet that point or if you believe in reincarnation, some people do, some people don't. but in in realizing these things life is a journey to learn and the tougher you are you don't have to be brilliant brilliant or anything else if you have that strength inside you you'll go somewhere but in a lot of places you don't have that opportunity and you get stuck and you run and especially when funny enough the people that get rich get lazy and are not strong and we need to instead of wanting and wanting more and more and more to be happy that's not the journey of life the journey of life is about doing things designing things creating things not for materialism but for

the joy of adding and making a difference yeah and tell us about the third book the third book is the final book where he's he reaches his own he ends up being a billionaire, and he works all across from, the book goes all the way from China, Hong Kong, all the way through the Russia's, Arts of Africa, and the final part of the book before the end of it goes towards Argentina. So there's a whole story of characters and feelings and shipping, and a lot of personalities in this, which if I had to, give you all these personalities i've written today 43 different situations oh wow so it's it's a deep it's something where you've got to get your feet into but i try to keep an interest because

it's a lot of people characters people of all different backgrounds oh lovely why do you think that's important to have that does it give you a variety or what what motivates you in that way What I see is to be a lot of people who become successful, Peter out. And the real purpose of our existence is the growth of us. It's about how do we see, in other words, not to sound wimpy, but the real essence of the book of the story of life is love. and that's that is the most powerful force in the universe love conquers all as they say I think

isn't that what they say yeah yeah it's I mean it's it's very it's a long book but it's got so much fun all the different characters and I may be impossible it would be easier for me to answer a question and answer period because the

so much to be read. And it took me five years to write these books. But anyway, five years. Wow, that's quite the love of work. Well, that's what I've been all my life, actually. But when I said, because I was machining, manufacturing,

all those things, which I could, I could keep you busy all the time. But it's about doing. Life is about doing, accomplishing. And I do believe in my way of seeing life, we are in a lower dimension. It's more materialistic.

But the effort is, and it's tough, but you have to grow. And by growing, you find the finest part of yourself. You find the finest part of yourself when you grow. Sounds like that could be a book title or a coffee cup. Yes. And the book, that's well said. And the book describes that. His father's strict.

Even though he comes from a wealthy family, nobody's giving it to him on a plate. You better get out there and make it happen. Yeah. It's not in the world that we've come to move towards. It's become softer. And where things become better is I'm owed that. No.

You get out there and you show people. You, in those things, you create the real, I would say, say from us are not religious but in a spiritual way it's it's the journey of life this is how you grow and if you have it too soft you won't grow yeah well you got to grow or else life will kick you in the butt and make you grow that's what i found absolutely life life kind of doesn't put up with your shit they goes oh you're not growing uh we're going to kick your door in and feed you some life absolutely that's that's true And I mean, there's nothing wrong with that.

And the thing is, even though giving is important, but in trying to do things to improve things, whether it's for the man in the street, at this point, this is the part of you that makes things other people admire and it goes forward. We don't have enough of that in today's world. Yeah. Don't have enough of it in today's world. world. Yeah, I mean, it's something you need to think about. And I'm glad you've kind of put these life lessons in the books, it sounds like. There's a lot. I mean, I would love to sit down with a whole bunch of you and really, you know, have a chat and show you a little bit more than I can just talking to you on a phone. But there's all kinds of characters, people who have done

things in their lives and they they uh it's easy to be moaning and groaning and this didn't happen and that didn't happen that the best part of life is can you make it happen then you do there can you go there and you and show an example to people and that's and uh it's the the number of people in the human race of that behavior are limited yeah Most limited, yeah. So you wrote this over five years, the series. Is there any future books that are coming out for the series, or is it you pretty much should have got it in the can and capped?

No, no, no. I've done it. I'm now 81. So I've been working all my life. But I am in another book called, oh, what was it? It's L-Apostrophy, earning. learning connects right so it's by earning and learning that you become

so that's the kind of book that I'm writing right now that is the way you become yes this it's in other words who I you know whether you God Jesus Christ whatever you believe those your beliefs but those are the qualities where you become something not because of the money of the power because of such a satisfaction in being good at your trade what you do what you think of how you write how you design your life

anyway these are all but these these stories are all in my book and I've got all the characters and the people and the different personalities that are available in the book and it's it goes all over the world yeah definitely and you know it's it's great the impact you have all over the world and stuff what has the response been so far by people who've been reading the series so far i have i have not had time and i'm just having a time now to be able to to how shall i say help people understand the book that i've read and Amazon is the only place

that has it. I haven't really done any marketing. Nothing. You are the first person that I'm talking to. All right. All right. So we're good to have you on the first part of this. I noticed there's some colored stones that seem to be across the spectrum of like the main colors that we use. It looks like maybe purple, gray, blue, green, yellow, red,

the orange maybe I think I'm just kind of looking at the screen so one of those those kind of look like maroon stones from that one Marvel movie or something like that so what are you referring to on the back of the chair or at least the back that you sit in

portion yeah there's a colored bunch of buttons or stones or or oh okay those those are those those are the not the dimensions but they are the character

the things within your body and some people there's the there's parts of your body for your health there's other parts for what you see your mind everything else and they're connected with which comes

from the mind from the body you control that in your body and they've got different colors and there's a it's not my particular art but it is the there's an name for it for these different things which yeah the chakra very good chakra okay it's the

chakras and it's the colors of the chakras and it goes all the way to as you evolve and as you learn it helps you with your digestion every single thing or you're part of this life here but you evolve to what they call the the mind the higher part of your body which is the um I've got all that stuff down. But it's where, for what somebody would say, who is in a very high mind, it is in the godlight, which is in the higher part of your brain. Yeah. That's not BS.

That's fact. There is a place there. And that's exactly what this crown or this area tries to accept that, hey, to move out, that energy and power is still. is out there is beyond what we are in this material world and that's what I've been working with

and that's what my stories are and the characters are and how some of them are very upset with life and miserable with life and you gotta turn that around you got to turn it around it's the only way to turn it around

as my dad told me he says well we don't want too much of that we don't want all the we don't want them taking all our work but that's just a different way of seeing life he was good, he was tough at what he did, his job but there's so much to discuss in front of a person, language to language, you know,

but it's the other point that I did in my books is I had to, because of my work, and engineering and wings, aircraft wings and all kinds of things that I developed in my work and building of statues and all kinds of things in different parts of China and all the way through has been a tremendous, I've learned so much.

And the thing is, I find that we tend to be, how shall I say, I don't like to say the word racist, but when you get to other cultures and other parts of the world and you really go out there to, in a working way, to understand, you will find, God, these people are nothing like that thought. This is, you know, everybody comes back and says, they're like this, they're like this. And he said, that's a load of bullshit. This is, so the story brings out the possibilities that are abundant for a success and

humankind. Yeah. We need successful stories. Hope is the great thing that. Everyone loves, right? Hope. An example is, you know, I'm sure you're probably a good fan of Donald Trump. No, not at all. You're not. I'm not.

But basically, there's so much with the two-party system, I'm sure you carry out with that. It's time, and I'm just a person, and I was in Parliament, in London Parliament. Oh, really? Yeah, and we would never have two systems, two parties? Yeah, two parties. Because all they're going to do is fight each other. That's what they do, too. And who gets anywhere?

We're just going around in circles. Even if it's a small amount of people, have that something where, oh, we better talk to them. Let's see this. Even if it's small, it will keep a blend and, get rid of this. What I see, being English, and having spent, I came to America in 1967, and I was 21 years old. And I've learned a lot in the manufacturing and everything. I found out that we need to be working, even your thoughts may be different to mine,

but how can we work those thoughts to make it happen? not how we can beat the other guy up and shut everything up what's the point it's ridiculous we can learn from each other and that we have not got to and that's all it describes the the struggle within there as it were i love you guys as parliament parliament in england uh the house of lords and i'm watching you guys shouting at each other and yelling each it's it's good fun to watch that's okay but it's it's it's it's That's why I say it's in control. Yeah, that's true. It's control.

You don't see anybody. It's part of the, well, I mean, they've been doing that since it goes back to Alfred the Great, which is a story in the 8th century. And then they had this poem which goes, men of finance, men of finance who look to scants with royal power unfettered, whose deep in 89, by putting an end. to write divine as getting rid of the kings and their rights divine our constitution bettered that happened in 19 in 1689 when the british parliament and everything else they got rid of all these people being the only part that's left to it today and in some ways it's good but it's not perfect

is that the how shall I say I'm trying to think of the word but it's it's not we've had a long time at history and the country is quite knowledgeable obviously England's not the country that it was

in the time of Queen Victoria in the 19th centuries but there's a lot there that has not come through and we've started to digress. We're not going forward. And that's what I think King William's trying to do when he's moving forward right now, is to open this up.

And, you know, what we've only got left is this monarchy. Are you aware of the monarchy? Yeah, yeah. I think it's kind of interesting, you know, God save the queen. I really love Queen Elizabeth. And what a life she led, right? With the things she must have seen and the experience. experiences that she must

have had with, you know, she lived through like, I think 10 of our presidents something like that, maybe 8. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it was 10 or 14. She lived through all of our presidents. Yeah. Yeah, she probably, I mean, she knew Churchill. I would have loved to just sat with her and said, please tell me about

Churchill, what you thought. And I would have, I would have paid every penny that I would ever earn in my lifetime to be able to sit with her and go, tell me all this shit. Tell me all this shit. Tell me all the stuff no one knows about. There's plenty of it, too.

Oh, bet she had to endure a lot of crap. Or she's just like, for real? I'm the queen. I'll have your head. You've got to be careful. But I think we, right now in today's world, the monarchy, as much as I'm a moniker's old-fashioned and everything else, it's really, it's, there's something about America I like. I think there's still there's that freedom

I if anything I would say freedom well this is it that's the point I'm trying to make you're not going to have freedom with two parties yeah I mean it is something it is something

I mean you know you do see other countries that struggle with you know having parliaments would you call that a parliamentary system but they have multiple parties and factors those parties and you see the struggles sometimes they have to have a consistent thing you know like Israel every I don't know five months this all this thing you know and and and so and

I'm not just picking on Israel there's some countries that you know like France I think didn't they just fire the chancellor or something and they dissolve the party because they all all the factions couldn't get along with each other and in the in the in the sort of government they built so you know it's a it's a it's a challenging time right now for democracy. Let's put it out. Oh, tell me. It's, it's very challenging. Never thought I'd see the rise of Nazis and, and, uh, and, uh, what's the, what's the thing that seems to be rising, the government sort of, uh, ruling, it starts of the P. Uh, Polly, no. Anyway, the rise of, uh, the rise of the governments we're seeing now, especially in

Europe, you're at nerves under attack now. Well, it hasn't. been for some time with Brexit and stuff, but what's the party that I'm thinking of, the political movement that I'm thinking of where they believe in I ologues and it's not it starts with a pee. It's around there to my tongue. Anyway, it's great your book highlights

this and talks about some of these issues and of course how to create maybe a better world of character and modes and maybe Rising Time lifts all boats as opposed to scarcity where I get mine and I take yours sort of thing. What I see is clear what's your name sorry

Chris Chris sorry Chris is what I see is that we have forgotten the people and the part amongst us in other words there's nothing wrong with getting out there making a buck being successful but if you're not going to help

the people the man in the street where the hell are you going in other words as much as it's great be successful Make all the money you want. But don't forget the people who are sitting down there in the road working their damn ass off. And I think the, in other words, you're only as good as the people behind. Yeah.

And that's what you've got a lot in. I love the United States, but that's not being recognized. Mm-hmm. And not to be communist or socialist or anything like that, you've got to bring up the rear. yeah somebody's got to bring it to rear otherwise you're going to have all this misery and all these problems and it's going to cost the government twice as much

yeah you want innovation and I've been a politician as I say in parliament and you got to you got to see the structure of the world it's okay for everybody to be great have these things and everything else but bring up the rear

bring up the rear So I always say sometimes late at night. That would make a good book. Yeah. But anyway, yeah. All right. So, David, give us a final pitch out for people order up your book in the series and your dot com so they can find you on the internet. Well, basically, Amazon is where I'm out at the moment.

I've got to probably do a little bit, make a little more effort towards other parts of the community. You know, I say, you've got to advertise it. I have to advertise more than I have. I've been so busy in my work, and I'm now at a point in my time because I'm talking to you to say, hey, I'm finally trying to tell everybody that I've actually done some things. Well, get the word out. Get the word out, people can order out the book, and maybe if the book really becomes

a hit and the series becomes a hit, do you see yourself maybe taking the character on some more rides, or would you create maybe something new? now basically what I believe in a type because of today's world Chris you would know I'm sure your experience is that in today's world people are not into to writing and all the things that I've been doing in my life they're more into the and the reading they're more into movies and all these kind of things films so I do see that that's the best journey for what I've written because it has all the characters,

the personalities, the ups and downs, the higher and the lower parts and all of its story which is, I've taken a long time to write about all these different characters. And if you just taste a little bit of my book, if you get a chance, or I'll send you my books if you want them, they're free of charge to you. and, hey, if there's something that hits you, you think, hey, there's more to this and I realized. Yeah.

More to life than you realized and all that good stuff. So what a thing. What a thing. So give me your dot-coms. We go out so people can have that. Dot com. I'm just on Amazon. Yeah.

Amazon, and that's about where I'm at. I need to market too. Yeah, you got it. I've been working. I've been working. I've got to get off my ass. Well, you're doing a great job at so far, and it's been wonderful to you have on the show, man. Thank you very much, David, for coming on. Welcome. Thank you, thank you, Chris.

Thank you. Order up David's book, wherever fine books are sold in the sole series, actually. The Rise to Power, Revised Edition, the Legacy Series, book one of the series we'll be discussing in the other two books, catch them as well. To my good friends, go to goodreads.com, Fortress, Chris Foss, LinkedIn.com, Fortress, Chris Foss. on the TikTokity and all those crazy places on the interwebs in the sky. Thanks for tuning in. Be good at each other.

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