The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – The Royal We by Roddy Bottum of Fate No More

Episode Date: November 29, 2025

The Royal We by Roddy Bottum of Fate No More https://www.amazon.com/Royal-We-Roddy-Bottum/dp/1636142699 A founder of the iconic band Faith No More shares his coming-of-age and out-of-the-closet story in pre–tech boom San Francisco THE ROYAL WE is a poetic survey of a time set in a magical city that once was and is no more. It is a memoir written by Roddy Bottum, a musician and artist, that documents his coming of age and out of the closet in 1980s San Francisco, a charged era of bicycle messengers, punk rock, street witches, wheatgrass, and rebellion. The book follows his travels from Los Angeles, growing up gay with no role models, to San Francisco, where he formed Faith No More and went on to tour the world relentlessly, surviving heroin addiction and the plight of AIDS, to become a queer icon. The book is an elevated wallop of tongue and insight, much more than a tell-all. There are personal encounters with public figures like Kurt and Courtney and Guns N’ Roses, and recaps of gold records and arena rock―but it’s the testimonies of tragedy and addiction and preposterous life-spins that make this work so unique and intriguing. Bottum writes about his dark and harrowing past in a clear-eyed voice that is utterly devoid of self-pity, and his emboldened and confident pronouncements of achievement and unorthodox heroism flow in an unstoppable train that’s both captivating and inspirational.

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We're going to get into his history is Stories of the Road, stories of bands and rock and roll and business and all that fun stuff. Roddy is an American musician, best known as the keyboardist for the San Francisco alternative metal band, Faith No More. He is also guitarist and co-lead vocalist for the pop group, Imperial Team. Welcome to the show, Roddy. How are you? Hi, Chris, I'm really good, thank you.

I just woke up from a nap. I told you, I was upstairs, and I knew we had an appointment at 1 o'clock, and I kind of dozed off. I was reading, and then I fell asleep. And then I picked up the book again. I was reading, and then I fell asleep again. And I woke up and I was 103, and the time we were supposed to meet was one. I panicked.

Well, we're sitting here kindly waiting for me. And that's where my head is at right now, but I feel good. We got you feeling good, got you awake. You know, normally you put people to sleep on the show. So, Roddy, give us a dot-coms. No, we're going to excite people. We are. That's what we do here.

So give us your dot-coms. Where can we find people on you on the internet? I guess I really mostly lead people to my substack. I just started a substack maybe like six months ago when I knew the book was coming out. So I think like that's a good place to start. Instagram for all you knuckleheads out there, there's a lot of you. And I look at it every day too. So that's a good place for visuals.

Roddy Bottom on Instagram. There you go. So give us a 30,000 overview of what's inside your new book, The Royal We. Chris, like we were talking about a minute ago, I started to write things down because I had so many stories, and I've led a really kind of an odd life. I grew up in Los Angeles, and I moved to San Francisco in an early age when I was like 17 years old. And when I started to write my book, I started to write about the whole encompassing life that I've led, like from a child to like where I am today. And I kind of had a pretty major opus, you know, that detailed all of that. And for some reason, I kind of, well, I was sending the book out to agents to try and get sort of representation and to help get the book published.

And some guy that I shared it with was like, oh, you know, you've created a really pretty succinct, nice cradle to grave work. And I was like, what? Cradle to grave work. Hey, what does that even mean? And he's like, well, yeah, you cradle the gray pieces aren't really that sellable. And I was like, what? Like, I wasn't really that concerned about my book being sellable, but he did bring up something to me that really kind of like struck me. And that is the sort of like orthodox, a way in which I had sort of put together a story of my life.

And all of a sudden it dawned, I mean, like, oh, wow, yeah, I've created this sort of like story. the type of book that I generally don't like to read, which is just like, I mean, like, when I go and see a movie, like, a biopic or whatever, like, I saw Napoleon a while ago when it came out. And honestly, like, in those sort of, you know, presentations of a person's life, I find them absolutely predictable. And I'm just, like, kind of, like, looking at my watch, like, waiting for the person to die. And I realized, oh, wow, I've created that sort of, like, really chronological, boring, not boring, because it had, you know, a lot of stuff about, my life and what I wanted to share, but it was just kind of a predictable manner in which to tell my story. And at that point, I was like, oh, wow, I've got to rearrange this in a way that's interesting to me. So, long story, long answer, short answer goes that I kind of took what I had written and I went to Paris for like a month and I just sat in a library and I reconstructed it in such a way that the book sort of now exists just more as a story about San Francisco and about me, in this specific time in San Francisco, which was very special to me.

It's special because it's very like it was an era. I moved there when I was like in 1981. I was 17 years old and I was there for almost 20 years. And it was before the computer existed. It was before the dot-com industry. It was before cell phones. And it was a really specific, odd, strange time in San Francisco. Like the hippie movement had sort of died down a little bit

and the punk rockers were moving in. So there was this really kind of chaotic clash of cultures that was happening. And there was a lot of interesting, like, new music that we hadn't seen before. Like, punk rock was kind of just starting. There was a lot of, like, dark goth kind of music, and a lot of drugs that I'd never seen before. A lot of witches. There were bicycle messengers. There was a lot of colorful things happening that I'd never seen before.

And honestly, I don't think we'll ever see a game. It was such an odd community and such an odd city at the time that I moved there. So I made my book and concentrated mostly on my years there in San Francisco, where I started a band, became a drug addict, kind of dealt with being open about my sexuality, and came to terms with sort of honesty in my life. Wait, drugs and rock and roll mix? Yeah, that's the combo. Really?

Anyway, yeah, I guess we kind of expect that of. our rock stars to enjoy all the all the fun things in life having well i mean without trauma there isn't really a lot of output you know well trauma is such a great thing talk to us about how you were raised and and kind of grew up and how you ended up forming the band uh well i grew up in los angeles and i live there with my family who i you know i'm really close with and i don't have a dysfunctional family at all. I have a pretty supportive family. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You'll get over it. Yeah. Los Angeles is a very cookie cutter, sort of

like funny place to grow up. What city are you in, Chris Foss? I'm in Utah right now, and I usually share between Vegas, but I grew up in L.A. Oh, you did? In La Crescenta, yeah. Oh, yeah, I grew up in Hollywood. Yeah. But Hollywood, I kind of like turned on as a young person. It was very much from an early age, I saw people like moving there to be like

movie stars and sort of like the entertainment industry. and very tan and pretty, and it kind of freaked me out. I didn't like that. And when I moved out of there, when I was like 17, I moved to San Francisco for really no reason at all. And it was just so different. It was very dark and rainy and wet, for starters. It was just about the weather.

That was so different. But also the people and the intellectualism and people were suddenly political in ways that Los Angeles was not, The contrast was very, very severe. And I think sort of the politics of what that city was and sort of the community, that's what spawned me and my friends to start a band. And we started that band, Faith, No More, in a really odd way. Just we started more as an art project than anything.

Really? And we just started, yeah, we started getting together and we would just, like, get in a room. And we would just make these repetitive loops over and over and just thought that was really hypnotic and powerful, and it was. But it was a very odd band, and we started playing shows, and we'd just do shows with people. We'd switch the singer from show to show and play with different people and play different songs every time we performed. It was very unorthodox and very strange band, very unconventional. And so it's funny that we even sort of like made a record. I don't think we considered ourselves that kind of band initially.

but that's what bands do after a while you write songs can you have enough songs you have a record and that's kind of what you do well okay we're going to go to a studio and make a record and that's what we did we made a record uh with our first singer uh-huh and kind of like then it took off yeah I mean I remember not in a commercial way I don't mean we were not successful or anything but we made a record and then we were kind of off and running is what I mean to say and I think you guys hit it big on MTV didn't you? I remember seeing the video a million times on MTV. Sure, but that didn't happen for a long time. We had one singer for a while. I think we, like, one of our first sort of big splashes was a song called We Care a Lot. And that song got attention and was on MTV. But it wasn't until sort of we parted ways with our original singer because he was kind of a mess. I mean, we worked with him and we're in a band with him because he was a mess.

And he was really exciting. And he was kind of like a circus, just a mess. crazy person. But eventually, I think the drinking and, like, drugs and stuff sort of turned us off from the whole project with him. He wasn't taking it as seriously as I think the rest of us were. And we kicked him out of the band. We got a different singer. And that singer really was an amazing singer. He had a really great voice. And we made a record with him. And then it kind of took off. But it took a long time to get there. That was after many, many tours and many, many miles and shows. And, and, experiences. When did you first get into music? When did you first start finding that you had a knack or love for it? I think I was really young, Chris. I was like a piano player.

We had a piano at my house, and my mom played piano. And it was just one of those things, you know, it was a really easy, cheap way to just sit down and entertain yourself, just to sit down and I would like just pound things on the piano. And I remember I was really good at writing a little melody for myself that tickled me. And I remember just the notion of doing a little melody, da-p-p-p-pah-p-pah-pah-b-b-whatever

it was, and I would get something that I liked. I would play it over and over, and then I would move away from it and play something different and then come back to it. And then, wow, oh, I noticed. Like, that was the magic. You established something. You go

away from it. You come back to it, and it's absolutely magic. And I recognize that, like, early on, before I even knew what a pop song or what a song was, but I knew that was a thing. Like, you do something, you go away, you come back, and it really creates the recognition of coming back to something really is everything. And I started doing that just habitually, like playing piano by myself at my parents,

at my family's house. And really, I just did that for a really long time, not by myself, but then I started taking lessons, and I played classical music. and I got really good. I was really intent on being a good piano player, and I practiced every day, like two hours a day, like from a really young age. I really worked hard at it.

So music was like a big part of my life, but in a really different sense when I was little, and I was playing classical music, it was a big deal. It sounds maybe like you were good at coming up with riffs or musical hooks, maybe, in kind of what you were doing on the keyboard. I think so, yeah I think like that was my sort of basis of what I kind of like drew me

into sort of making Because if you have a great riff I don't know there was a playfulness Because if you have a good riff or a good hook I mean some people say that was Yeah, some people aren't into hook Some people could just do like You know something in just like an atmosphere

or whatever like a They sort of don't recognize I think the magic of that But I know that that's what really drew me in And Chris was like the enamor of a hook, yeah, or a riff that sort of I liked to hear and it was pleasant to my ears. And I always sort of went there. Even later when I got into bands and stuff, when we were making like loud, loud music, I would always like kind of try and bring it back to something that was a hook that was memorable. Not in a cheesy way, but just something that I wanted to play again.

Yeah. And that's the great thing about like, you know. A hook, really? I was just going to say a hook is kind of like, it's a horrible way to, I mean, we all say that hook, but it's a horrible way to describe something like, right, something that we're creating and sharing with people, a hook. Yeah. It's horrible. I'm not looking to hook anyone, and I'm just like kind of like enjoying myself. Join me if you will in this hook, but, you know, yeah, I mean, you know, you watch a lot of bands that write music and, you know,

somebody will come up with a little riff or a, you know, kind of, it's kind of a hook because it does get you hooked, you know. I mean, who can forget the opening guitar stuff of Hotel California, stairway to heaven, and sandman, you know, every, a lot of great music have those, those, kind of those hooks, and then they build the song around it. And, uh, and yeah, that's what you hook. I mean, like the opening line to Tom Sawyer, limelight for me being a Rush fan, you know, that's, that's everything.

and so yeah I mean that's what you get hooked on yeah it really is so you start the band you guys do that so you aim for it just feels like it just feels like a dirty word but that's not alright I guess it does we're getting people hooked but you know I've I mean I've been hooked

on people's music all my life it's a good drug it's a healthy drug I think music maybe maybe it's better than doing blow off of a hooker's back end or something I don't No, no, no. So, you tell the stories of San Francisco. How old were you when you moved to San Francisco from L.A.? 17 years old. I've gotten out of college. I had aspirations to becoming a filmmaker, which is funny that I left Los Angeles, like with the feelings that I was talking about before. Like, I was really not into the film industry or the entertainment industry. But I did like, I really appreciated, like, weird, offbeat, independent film. And I think that's where I wanted to.

to go like I moved to San Francisco thinking like that's what I would do I was going to become a filmmaker so I went to school up there to San Francisco State and I studied filmmaking and I made movies and was amongst a community of people that made movies and made artwork and made music but it's just kind of the music that took me on a specific journey and so when do you what do you talk in the book about what it was like when Faith No More you know finally starts hitting it big doing arena tours, things of that nature. I do, yeah. Kind of like, it doesn't go through our whole

course of existence, but it like takes us definitely through the point where we make it big, yeah. It's most interesting to me, I think, like the early days when we're struggling. Like those stories are really fun to me. Yeah, I know. It's like, you know, you're in a van

together, six people. Five people in a van, just like, you know, living off $10 a day and just making it work and working so hard and like sharing stuff with people and like meeting friends and sleeping on couches like those were the glory days for sure and there's a lot of that there's a lot of those days in the book but they're filled with there's so many fun stories in that realm yeah i mean what an adventure to go on and uh san francisco is such an eclectic city what are some of your favorite stories of the book do you want to tease out maybe one or so

you know we would tour so much and it just became this process and this struggle that we did I was talking about someone the other day I was kind of close to where you were well no actually not so we were in Texas and we were like in a we had a 66 Dodge that we bought from someone and there were six of us and we had a trailer behind it and we would like we have had no phones at the time. So we would just sort of map out where we were going on a map that we had in the car with us. And we saw this road. We had a really far travel to go this one day in Texas, and it was kind of getting into nighttime.

And we decided to, oh, look at this road, cuts off all these corners right here. Let's take this road between the two highways that seemed to make a lot of sense and it seemed to get us there in a quicker way just by looking at it on the map. And so we drove off this road and we took this road for probably, you know, more than 100 miles and it was kind of turning to a weird dirt road and just kept going. We'd see it on the map and we'd see where it was going. And we just stuck to it and it got dark and it got really scary. And at one point we were on that road. And I don't know what happened, but all of a sudden we saw a rabbit jump into the headlights.

And I was like, why would a rabbit do that? and it happened really suddenly and whoever was driving said, what, did you see that? We're like, what? He's like, a rabbit just jumped in the headlights. I think we'd run out of it.

And he said that, only said that, and then another rabbit like jumped in the head of lights. And all of a sudden, there were all of these rabbits. Somehow they were like attracted to the light or something of the car, but were like jumping into

the headlights of the car and just like, it felt like a mass suicide or something. It was the craziest thing. I've never seen anything like it. It was so odd. We talked about it forever. Like, what was going on with those rabbits?

You ever see that movie? There was a horror movie, I think, in the 70s of where the rabbits go bad and start murdering everybody. And there's a giant rabbit somewhere. Oh, my God. No. How do the rabbits kill people? I mean, with their teeth, you know, they got those little teeth.

Oh, my God. Killer rabbit? I guess, yeah, they go on like a killer rabbits movie. I can't remember what it was, but yeah, maybe that was that. They were all just trying to get you guys because you were in their territory or something. Maybe so, but killing themselves in the process. Yeah, there's a few different rabbit movies. The Night of the Lepus, Leipus, L-E-P-U-S, 1970s.

That sounds a little familiar. Yeah. Do you ever know that movie? There was a play called Harvey. Do you know that play or movie? I've heard of it, yeah. I can't remember who wrote it. It's a really clever play, but it's about a six-foot rabbit.

This guy, he's like mildly, like, maybe he's autistic or something, the man, the main character in the play. And in the movie, it's later played by Jimmy Stewart, plays the man. And he's like, he's autistic, kind of. And he's just odd. He's an eccentric person. He's in a really eccentric family. It's called Harvey. and he has this friend.

It's an invisible six-foot rabbit that comes into the story. It's really clever and fun. Yeah, I'll have to check it out. I don't think I've ever seen that Jimmy Stewart movie. I've got to pulled up here. Yeah, so different things. You talk about street witches in San Francisco. That's pretty wild.

I didn't know they had street witches in San Francisco at one time. I mean, street witches, This is sort of a stretch, but kind of not really. Like, San Francisco is a really odd place. I think, like, I was talking about, like, the people who moved to Los Angeles are really hell-bent on getting into the entertainment industry. They're actors and, like, oh, I'm going to be a director. I'm moved to Los Angeles. San Francisco was, like, no-holds barred just, like, freaks moved there.

You know, people would go there. Part of it was, like, I think, was, like, the hippie sort of, like, movement. So a lot of it was that, like, people from, you know, like, yeah, who had, sort of like noticed like San Francisco was bucking against the system back then and there was like revolution and like change and hippies and long hair people and freedom and nudity and smoking pot and stuff. There's a lot of that. And I think that's what sort of like started the crusade of people who moved there. But from there, it was like, by the time I got there and I don't even know why I moved there, but people were moving there just to sort of like let their freak flags

fly, so to speak. And there was a lot of, like, it was definitely queer revolution, so a lot of gay people from around the country would move there and just sort of, like, live and be who they were and, like, know that where they were going, there was a sense of freedom. But in the same way, yeah, street witches,

there were people who were, like, very mystic and psychic and, you know, weird and druggie and crystal balls and just odd people, just very strange. Yeah. So you got, you're like hookers on the street, people selling drugs and you've got street witches.

Yeah, definitely. I mean, all of those things, like separated by neighborhoods, of course, but like, yeah, all of those things existed. And that was kind of part of the magic of the city, like all of those different weird functions of life, those different styles of people were all kind of mingled in a tangled mess

in what was San Francisco. Yeah. I know as photographers, we've always talked about this. We never, I think COVID threw it off. But we always talk about going and shooting a photography at the Folsom Street Fair. San Francisco is such an eclectic city. Such a collection of different people and stuff. And just, it's a beautiful city.

It's an interesting city. And I think, I mean, when did it really start to change in its culture with the hippies? And rock and roll, I think, when bands started going there? I guess then. But, I mean, by the time I got there, was sort of on the cusp of change. Did you ever go to that Folsom Street Fair? have you ever seen i didn't in fact i just realized we still need to go we were talking about doing it right before covid and right you know when covid came upon us you should go it is so like as a photographer

do you take you take photographs yeah i love street photography yeah and it's insane you can't believe the things you're seeing at that oh yeah it's insanity like i'm sure you've seen pictures before oh yeah but san francisco in all of its sort of liberation and sort of allowance of letting people do what they want to do. They really let it fly. At that particular fair is insanity. There's full on nudity, of course. That's not even a question. There's like, you know, hundreds of people just walking around naked. It's the funniest thing to see on the street. And then, you know, the costumes are insane, just like leather and like, I remember like one of the early times. We would go every, every year always, just because it was just so much fun,

the people that you would see. And my bands have played there all out, like, Imperial team was a very gay band. And so we played that street fair probably. They would have band sort of play during the day. We played a bunch of times. And the band I have with my boyfriend now, Joey, man on man played there a couple of years ago. But I remember the first time I went there,

I saw a guy who was in like fully head to toe. It was like black latex. And there was, he was, it was all. all just a black sheer sort of like latex. I don't even know how to describe it, but gloved hands all the way down to his feet, like completely covered. And all that existed was like the size of a hole punch for his mouth and two eyes.

And it was scary. It was so spooky. I was like, oh my God, get away from that guy. And all the people with their crazy fetishes, like, you know, to, and things you can't even imagine, like, pee and scat, and just like a million things. I'm sorry, I don't mean to do that, but it's sort of like, I mean, that fair specifically, that's what it's all about is people's fetishes. And it's so wild.

Like, as a photographer, it would be so fun for you to go. Oh, yeah. You need to go there. I love doing lots of black and white photography, and I love people and their characters. You know, I've gone down to Venice Beach when I lived in L.A., a million. million times shot down there because there's lots of eclectic people that walk up and down that boardwalk.

Yeah, we need to put that back on the thing. Do you want to tease on anything you're doing with your new band and any future stuff you have coming up, maybe? You know, I just finished a book tour that lasted a couple months, but right before that, I went to Los Angeles and finished a record with Imperial Team.

It won't be out for a while, but it sounds really good. I'm really excited about it. We only put a record out probably like every six years or something, but we just finished one that sounds really nice and what's the name of the band again imperial team imperial team how many albums do you guys have out so far i think this might be our seventh record oh wow but i'm not certain i'm not good at numbers well you're good at music and that's all that matters yeah you know tunnel vision well you know you got to be good at something you can't be good

to everything i'm not good at anything at all except for podcasting that's why i do it I guess you're a good talker, yeah? Sometimes, sometimes. I've been doing this for 16 years, so it must be something we're doing wrong or right, one of the two. So this has been interesting. Do you have any future books, maybe, of future stories coming out? You know, it's funny. We were talking about, like, well, it keeps me up at night.

That's what's kind of keeping me up at night right now is, like, how I'm approaching the second book. I really liked writing. It was a really fun process, and I'm good with work. words. It's something that I've done for a long time, and I recognize that now. Like, I've finished my book. And the book that I wrote is very literary and prosy and sort of poetic. And I'm most proud of those aspects of the book, the, like, sort of the language of it and the person of it and the writing of it. And I'm really proud of it. And I know, in my heart of hearts, that's what I'm going to continue doing. It feels like a nice place to go as I get older, like I can go places. Like I said earlier, I went to Paris, and I spent a month, there just finishing my book and that was dreamy oh so if only for a reason to sort of like go somewhere by myself for a while and work on something and have that nice solitude and that project at hand i i love the idea of it so i kind of like i started writing just a couple days i just got back uh from my book tours a couple days ago i started writing kind of a new

project and it's feeling like the story of a supermodel i think but a young uh a young boy who's abused and he becomes a supermodel but that's uh don't quote me on that that's one thing but then i also want to write a play too i'd like to read a play i love theater oh there you go you know writing is so cathartic and uh you know writing i like we were talking before the show you know i used to have all these stories like you of my life they probably weren't as fun but uh they were interesting and and once i put them in the book i forgot about them like i don't even tell of them anymore like i I used to bore everybody I could find with my stupid stories. And now I don't tell them anymore.

People ask, hey, what was that one story? I don't know. Go read the book. It's in the book. What's your book called, Chris? Beacons of leadership. Beacons of leadership, plural, beacons. Beacons of leadership.

I think beacon of leadership, I have to go check. I don't even know what my own book title is. You know what there's. There's an answer. There's not. Here, let me Google it. This is the funny thing. You do a book and you just forget about it.

I guess so. It is Beacons of Leadership. Yeah, yeah. Begans of leadership. That's a nice title. Yeah, thanks. Thanks. As we go out, give people any final.coms or anything else you want people to know,

picking up your book, et cetera, et cetera. That's all I want people to know. Read my book of you. You're so inclined. It's pretty great. I love it. Imperial Team Records can come out soon. Also a record with my band called Crickets that I really love,

another band I'm in. And my boyfriend and I are in a band called Man on Man, and we're going to start recording probably this month. There you go. So lots of music stuff coming up and like, I don't know, just say, hey, if you see me on the street. A Man on Man, that would be a great band to play at Folsom Street, evidently I hear.

Yeah, yeah, we played there once. It went great. It was really fun. Yeah, I need to go photograph that. I mean, it's such an adventure. Just the music, too, is really fun. We played right before L7 the last time we played there. The music fair, the music in that.

particular fair is really awesome. That'd probably be the best street photography ever I can get. I usually go down every weekend to down towns and I just I like, you know, I shoot interesting people that I photograph them. I mean you quit saying shoot. I photograph them and it's fun. You know, people are interesting.

You know, I make people smile. Sometimes they'll be going through the day, but drudgered about whatever they're doing in the city and then they'll see you shooting them and they'll be like or photographing them and they'll and they'll wave and then they'll smile and you're like cool you know and and so there's an exchange but i get it's amazing just human nature and it's it's behavior and stuff so we'll look forward to your stories for your next book too as well as this one and and yeah i mean i can imagine you just

have an endless supply so bring it all to us and share with us the world of rock and roll and what it's like to be a rock and roll star so thank you for us i like our chat thanks for talking with me Thanks, Roddy. I certainly did too. And folks, pick up Roddy's book, wherever fine books are sold. It's called The Royal Wee out November 4th, 2025. Thanks for mine us for us fordrease.com, Forteousus Chris Foss, LinkedIn.com, Forteousus, Chris Foss, 1 on the TikTok and all this crazy place to the internet. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you guys next time.

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