The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – The Second Act Advantage: Monetize Your Wisdom, Master Longevity, and Build an Unforgettable Legacy by Jay Samit

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

The Second Act Advantage: Monetize Your Wisdom, Master Longevity, and Build an Unforgettable Legacy by Jay Samit https://www.amazon.com/Second-Act-Advantage-Longevity-Unforgettable/dp/1510786627 J...aysamit.com Unleash Your Greatest Chapter Yet. Purpose, Prosperity, and Longevity Await The Second Act Advantage shatters the outdated retirement myth and reveals how to turn your post-career years into your most productive, profitable, and purpose-filled decades. Perfect for fans of Outlive by Peter Attia and From Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks, this revolutionary guide proves your best years aren’t behind you—they’re just beginning. International bestselling author Jay Samit challenges everything you’ve been told about retirement and delivers the essential guide to thriving in life’s most rewarding stage. Drawing from cutting-edge science, inspiring real-life stories, and actionable strategies, this book flips the script on retirement and reinvention. While others settle for golf and grandkid visits, you’ll discover how artificial intelligence, social media platforms, and emerging technologies have created unprecedented opportunities for intellectual stimulation and entrepreneurial success after 50. What you’ll learn: Master AI as your business partner: Use ChatGPT, automation tools, and smart home technology to launch profitable ventures with zero employees Monetize your lifetime of wisdom: Transform decades of experience into consulting empires, online courses, and social media influence that generates passive income Leverage the “senior startup advantage”: Discover why entrepreneurs over 50 are 3x more likely to succeed than twenty-somethings and how your networks become your net worth Build a global digital lifestyle: Use geoarbitrage and remote work technologies to live richly anywhere in the world while running your empire from a laptop Drawing from stories of late-blooming entrepreneurs like Anne Beiler, who built Auntie Anne’s Pretzels empire at 65, and Dolly Parton, who launched her global Imagination Library at 50, Samit reveals why your extensive networks, financial stability, and hard-won expertise, coupled with new technologies and opportunities, create an unbeatable advantage. Technology hasn’t made you obsolete; it’s made you unstoppable. Your second act isn’t about managing decline; it’s about asking: What will the world gain because I finally had time to do it?

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Starting point is 00:00:01 You wanted the best... You've got the best podcast. The hottest podcast in the world. The Chris Voss Show, the preeminent podcast with guests so smart you may experience serious brain bleed. The CEOs, authors, thought leaders, visionaries, and motivators. Get ready, get ready. Strap yourself in. Keep your hands, arms, and legs inside the vehicle at all times.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Because you're about to go on a monster education role. rollercoaster with your brain. Now, here's your host, Chris Voss. I'm Vox here from thecrisposs show.com. No one of the early seems. That makes it official while. That woke me up once I got the shock of the Iron Lady there. When she sings it, the Chris Voss show is live.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Family and friends, we love you. Thanks for joining us as well. Yeah, go to Goodreeds.com, force us Chris Voss. LinkedIn.com, for it says Chris Voss. Chris Voss won on the TikTokity. And yes, I blinked on doing some sort of improv on the ramble. So because of that, we just have an amazing author on the show. He's joining us again, my good friend, Jay Samet is on the show with us today. His new book, Thanks for having, Chris.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Thanks for coming, Jay. His new book is out May 5th, 2026, and it is entitled, The Second Act, Advantage, Monetize Your Wisdom, Master, Longevity, and Build a Unforgettable Legacy, and we're talking about some AI stuff, how to get the keyword in there. Jay, as I mentioned, Jay Sammet joins us in there and people are like, I'm going to listen now. But Jay's really smart, so you should listen to his book and all that good stuff. We had him on for his book called Future Proofing You. So check that out as well. Jay, welcome the show.
Starting point is 00:01:48 How are you doing these days? Thanks for having me back. I'm doing fantastic, but I'm worried about what's going on. Is there something going on in the world? It seems so peaceful and there's no wars or danger. What's up with that? I'll focus on what's not making the headlines, which is when I wrote, disrupt you 10 years ago when I think we first met or whatever. In a decade, half of all jobs
Starting point is 00:02:09 will disappear. I was a lunatic. When I spoke at Davos, I was going to say a third of all jobs will disappear in the next three years, but the speaker ahead of me was the head of the International Monetary Fund, people that have the data. And they said 30% will disappear in the next two years. 30%. When we see robotics working in factories, we go, that doesn't affect us. But if you have any job that involves sitting and looking at a computer screen, the computer doesn't need you anymore. The AI is a smarter employee. Now, you won't lose your job immediately to AI. You'll lose it to people that are using AI better than you. The second act advantage is everybody has a second act. You'll be disrupted whether you want to or not. So it could be retirement. It could be that you came
Starting point is 00:03:00 in to one hundredths of the second late at the Olympics. You've been doing something. since you're eight years old and now you've got to find something else or you're five years in the NFL or your 20 years as a cop. But we're not preparing people to create that side hustle, to have that other job or to create a nonprofit legacy, make an impact. And AI now is that equalizer that allows you to build businesses without capital, without employees. And they're creating billionaires and if you're not learning how, you're going to be left behind. Yeah, you're going to be left behind. Yeah, it's, it's all about, you know, understanding how to, how to work it basically as a skill or a work skill task, I guess. Yeah, so it goes across any, any areas, but most importantly,
Starting point is 00:03:51 many people are intimidated. It sounds scary. It's, I'm not a computer coder. I've been in tech my whole career, I've yet to write a line of code. I've built billion-dollar companies and I've run multinationals. But here, Second Act Advantage actually comes with an AI companion free. Oh, wow. He's trained on all my books, all my Wall Street Journal columns, all my wired columns, all my fortune columns, all my speeches so that whatever you want to accomplish in your second act, you now have a mentor next to you privately, can ask anything. all the data stays with you. I'm not doing this to monetize. I'm doing this because I kind of like a society that functions. And if 30% of the people lose their jobs, let me tell you what happens. They lose
Starting point is 00:04:39 their identity. They lose their social network. They lose their income. And we have a very unstable world. And yet, we're making a new self-made billionaire every 22 hours. I won't put you on spot, Chris, but I don't know what you did yesterday. But if you make it. made a billion, I think you would have canceled today's show. Just have. But the youngest self-made billionaire this year was 19. 19? What the hell is going on?
Starting point is 00:05:10 When I was 19, I was trying to figure out how to pay off my used car, right? What is it that they know? What do they have access to? And it's not rocket science. It's real straightforward. You need a sales funnel. It makes it. You need a website.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It makes it. You need information. It makes it. I'll give you just a simple example. I wrote this book to both show people how to use tools and how to live life. I also have a chapter on how to add 28 years to your life with the least amount of effort. Like I'm the lazy guy. I'm not at the gym.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I like pizza. I like pasta. One of the least amount of things. And half of the nine things that you do, you can do while you're asleep. But I digress. Finish the book. I wanted to be the tool to help people at this. inflection point. So I went to the big AIs, and I used to be chairman of one of the AI companies,
Starting point is 00:06:01 and I said, what is this book missing? A Greek use of AI, a second set of eyes. And all the AIs came up with a bunch of stuff, most of which I didn't have in the book because I didn't want it, but it had one category that I overlooked. So imagine having a partner that can double check you, that can help you, that can find stuff, that can work 24-7 and doesn't want any equity or any cash. why wouldn't you want that partner? Yeah. And so the future, so AI you really believe is going to eat up to 30% of jobs? Is that a good way to put it?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Let's take a simple thing. Okay. Everybody's favorite person out there, the lawyer. What does a lawyer do? A lawyer cut and pace for the most part existing contracts. AI has seen every contract can do a really good job. Okay. When we launched and created LinkedIn, the first people that,
Starting point is 00:06:54 used to were headhunters going, God, this is the greatest tool. This makes my job so easy until one day everybody realized, hey, I don't need that head hunter. The next thing that you're going to see, and this will seem freaky to most people, is you're going to see, and you've heard Alon Musk and everybody talk about humanoid robots, putting AI in a human form. Why the human form? Because every job out there was designed for a human to work in that space. So the number one job on tax returns is truck driver. So self-drive. So self-drive. trucks, that's one thing, but a robot driving an existing truck, you don't have to buy a new fleet. A $30,000 robot you'll be able to rent or lease for $300 a month. Let that sink in.
Starting point is 00:07:39 It's 24-7. So even if you're doing landscaping or moving heavy things on a construction site, or you want somebody to take care of your grandmother who's alone and you can't afford 24-7 care. You're going to see this on a massive scale. So why not benefit from this moment? Yeah. I mean, this is, would you call this a Luddites moment in history where, you know, that you nailed it, Chris.
Starting point is 00:08:08 One of the things that I realized is we're at the tail end of the baby boomers. This year, next year, in the year after I just turned 65, I've been on the internet since 78. So I'm not the Luddite. I'm the lunatic that was always doing this stuff. Okay. But this is the last non-native digital generation that will ever be on Earth. So I'm here to say you don't need that engineering degree, by the way, Microsoft's laying off thousands of engineers, Facebook's laying off thousands of here. You know, everybody was told to get STEM and learned engineering. AI does that better than any engineer. The next generation of AI
Starting point is 00:08:43 isn't being written by humans. It's being written by AI. So you don't need any of that. Give you Another one, I've worked all over the globe. I've run multinational companies, and I only speak two languages, English and sarcasm. T-Mobile just announced that you can talk to anybody, anywhere in the world, in live, real-time, no app, and they'll hear you in any of 50 languages. So I can call China. They hear J-speaking Chinese. I hear them speaking English or Ethiopian or Japanese.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I'm doing press interviews around the world speaking Japanese and Polish. And Lithuanian, it blows my mind. So where can you expand your market? Who can you reach? The other side of it, teaching grandmas how to use TikTok, there are grandmas that have cooking shows that are making seven figures a year. What? There are people eating food making seven figures.
Starting point is 00:09:39 There's a Pomeranian dog that became a millionaire. So if a young dog can learn it, old dogs can learn it. I'm an old dog. In the office place today, they're pushing out anybody above 40 because they're too expensive. Yeah. So you may think your business is safe, your sector safe, your company's safe. It isn't. So you better learn the skills to have a way to stay employed.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. It's definitely a Luddite moment. And those of you who aren't familiar with the Luddites, basically the Luddites were, what, a group of people, and they refused to adhere to, you know, new technology. Yeah, so in the first industrial revolution, machines that used to employ a lot of kids and everybody to make cloth out of all the cotton that they were bringing in, they figured out the old steam engine and suddenly you didn't need all those people and they burned down the factories, okay? Let me tell you about factories today. I sat on a board with somebody from Foxcon. Foxconn makes your iPhones phones or PlayStation's, all those electronics. We used to complain all those factory jobs went overseas.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Oxcon has nine lights out factories. You ask what's a lights out factory? A factory where the lights are out because there's no humans. There's a McDonald's by me that has no humans. There are Starbucks with no humans. So unless you can find a quick way to beat the other people that are Luddites, you're going to be roadkill. You're either Luddites or roadkill.
Starting point is 00:11:13 That should have been the title of your book, Sam. I don't want to scare people. I really believe I cannot help everybody, but I do believe with the second act advantage and the free app that comes with it, I can help those who want to help themselves. Last time I was on the show, if you remember, I took a homeless immigrant and mentored him one day a week for a year.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Oh, yeah. No cash, no business contacts. And spoiler alert, if you're in the middle of reading, future briefing you, he went from a homeless to self-made millionaire in under a year. The tools are out there. We're connected it. We've just been taught not to do these things.
Starting point is 00:11:51 We were taught to be employees. We were taught to listen to the boss. How's that working out for most people? No, well. Not well. You mentioned a great point about people over 40. I have so many of my friends and a lot of them in the coding business in Silicon Valley, even before this AI, you know, even several years ago before this AI really was taken off,
Starting point is 00:12:14 you know, they were starting to see a lot of, what's that discrimination for older people on the job? So the good news is on the internet. No one knows you're gray. Okay. Same with podcasts, too. But here's why I call it the second act advantage. And this is really key. I started my first company is 20.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I was an idiot. I got lucky. Okay. Yeah, you and me. Over the years, I've done this again and again. I took over a little thing 18 months later, sold to News Corp for 200 million. million dollars. Again, I didn't want to be a billionaire. I watched dozens of my friends become billionaires in a household names. You know all the people I've worked with. But I also realized
Starting point is 00:12:54 there's a lot of miserable billionaires. I didn't want more money for the sake of dick measuring. What I wanted is to make the world a better place. So I realized I could pay it forward and teach people this. I've taught at the university. My books are in a dozen languages. But here's the second act advantage. You're not starting like a 20-year-old. You have a network of people that you've worked with for years and decades. You've learned the skills of overcoming problems, of being tenacious, of helping things of cooperation, creativity, collaboration, all the skills that you need in this world. And what you can identify is the gaps in the market. And now you don't have to raise capital. You don't have to hire a bunch of people. You don't have to hire an assistant.
Starting point is 00:13:41 You want graphics? AI does it instantly. You want a video? AI does it instantly. Belly is a tool I could do a whole show on that Google just came out with it. It's the only company that can ever come out with this free tool. It takes all the data of what they know at this moment. People are clicking on figures out by looking at your website who your market is.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You want left-handed people that speak French and English and drive a foreign car. Boom, they click on a button in the upper left-hand corner if it's yellow. Whatever it is, I'm simplifying it. but they instantly make all your ads, all your social media for free. Why? Because they know they control the ad market. If they get more businesses advertising, they benefit. But if your ad dollar can now be 100 times more efficient,
Starting point is 00:14:26 because they have the research and they're peeling back the kimona to let you have it, why wouldn't you? Yeah. I'll give you a great one to put you on the spot because this is the kind of person I am. You knew I was going to be on the show today. You know the target I'm going for. What keywords did you buy today to promote today's show that you found nobody else was buying? So for $10,000 you could bring in another 100,000 listeners to this episode.
Starting point is 00:14:54 So for the price of a cappuccino, you can grow to a million people listening. This is what people are doing with AI. They're doing letting AI do the outreach, AI do the marketing. And it doesn't matter what it is. I sell nothing on my website. I asked AI how to grow what to do. And unbelievable, you know, got me now doing substacks because that appeals to the people that need help.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And that's who I'm trying to reach. I'm not trying to monetize, but I still need to reach millions of people. Yeah. I mean, this is the age. I'm telling all my young folks that are in our gaming community, I'm like, hey, you need to be dealing with AI and AI problems and mastering this stuff. The, I mean, there's, there's so many different ways you can do it. Some of my friends who used to work for, one of my friends used to work for Amazon
Starting point is 00:15:45 and help, you know, book startups and, you know, get people involved in the, in the, what is the Amazon Cloud Service. The, and, and they've done lots of Silicon Valley builds and different investors startups. They're doing, they're, they're coders. And they're using AI to code for them instead. Yeah. And then like, it's, coding is like learning how to do a,
Starting point is 00:16:08 windsock before we had the graphic interface to be on the internet. Yeah, to have a whole bunch of engineering just to get from point A to point B and send the piece of text. You know, I'm thinking that. Painters up until the past hundred years had to mix and grind stones to make their paint, right? I think their time was better spent with the canvas. Okay. Yeah, it's true. So take all the drudgery out of business or let's say money isn't an issue. We all see problems we want to solve. In all my books, interview these people that make me feel like I've wasted every day on this planet because people with nothing have achieved so much. And I shine a light on the stories. Let me tell you one that just comes to mind. A guy's retired civil engineer. He's getting his oil change. He's sitting at Jiffy
Starting point is 00:16:52 Loub. It's a bunch of old greasy magazines. It's an old National Geographic. And he sees these guys going across a flooded river hanging on a rope. Okay. Because I could build like an Indiana Jones style rope bridge in one day and save this community. They can't get to to the hospitals, they can't get to the food, kids can't go to school. So he flies to Africa, doesn't know anybody, builds the bridge. And then he sets up a charity, bridges to prosperity. He's built now hundreds of bridges connecting millions of people in the third world. Other people have solved all kinds of problems.
Starting point is 00:17:28 They saw old pets weren't being adopted. How do I set up a 501c3 and I'll go and match old pets with old people? So little problems, big problems, ideas. is the change everything. So let's get back to, I know you want to live longer. Number one thing, when they looked at blue zones and they looked at the diet and they looked at the atmosphere and they missed the main thing that all the past 10 years of research has shown. Number one thing, be socially engaged. Have a reason to get up out of bread, have a purpose. I believe the purpose of life is to live a life of purpose. So my tools and self-insrospective, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:08 quizzes inside the book, help you figure out what motivates you to focus you on doing things. Now, you can do good and do well at the same time. You can make money and solve world problems. They don't have to be separate. But let's get back to I want Chris to live a good life. If you make it to 60, you have a very good chance that you'll make it to 90. Really? That's 30 years.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Is it true? I got two more years. A hundred years ago, the life expectancy was 35. Okay, so retirement was you kill over at work, okay? If you make it to 60 and you're going to make it to 90, that means your second act is longer than your career. So is that really true, Sam? Like healthy and not have dementia.
Starting point is 00:18:51 My mom had Alzheimer's. It was a horrible way to go. Yeah. When she was still had some cognition, she says, why can't I just die? I mean, hearing your mom say that it's not a happy thought. So let me give you some of the tips, okay? There's nine things. Again, I'm not telling you.
Starting point is 00:19:06 you to go to the gym and be Schwarzenegger. I'm not telling you to eat berries, okay? Or just eat a dead horse, okay? Oh, dead horse is my favorite. Okay? Here's one your mom didn't teach you. Two orgasms a week, add seven years to your life.
Starting point is 00:19:24 No, it doesn't keep on going up. You're not living for 4,000 years, okay? I see you laugh at. It's the whole mom and you just, you know, mix getting caught as a teenager or something for most guys in their youth. So let me give you another one. If you have a dog, you'll survive a stroke and heart attack better, 50% better.
Starting point is 00:19:46 50% better? Cats don't do crap, okay? Nothing against cats. I'm just talking on longevity. Let me tell you a simple one that you can do starting today when you're asleep. And it's a huge one. Treat sleep like a job. When you had a job, did you say, today I'm going to show up at noon?
Starting point is 00:20:05 Tomorrow I'm going to just blow it off. I'll catch up. I'll do my work. I'll do. No, you showed up at the same time. If you showed up at the same time and didn't eat your food three hours before and got prepared, your body develops a rhythm and you'll fall asleep instantly. Sleep deprivation is a huge problem.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Many people, you know, you don't need pills. That'll solve the sleep issue. But let me tell you the best part of sleep. When you sleep, let's say you get a good eight hours. If you don't eat the few hours before and you don't eat right when you wake up and you boo all your meals in eight hours, I don't even care what you eat. The other 16 puts your body into a thing called autophagy. Nobel Prize was won for this. The simple science is this.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Your body runs out of glucose, runs out of sugar to feed itself. So it switches to ketones. I'm not pushing the ketone diet. Different thing. The only thing it can find to burn on your body when it goes into autophagy at hour, 12,000. 12, 13 or 14 is your visceral fat, the fat that's inside and wrapped around your organs, not the fact you see. That's the fact you can't exercise away.
Starting point is 00:21:16 That's great. But autophagy is the following. Each cell, hate to get science on you, hundreds of pages of footnotes in this book, each cell goes, wait a second, Chris is not feeding me anymore. I'm going to shut down. So the mitochondria says, I'm going to shut down any part of the cell that I don't absolutely have to keep alive. And they're doing this cell by cell in your body.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Of course, you're starving it. So what's it shut down, that broken DNAs, the deformed pieces? It shuts off feeding cancer. If you go in autophagy often enough, do not get cancer. I'm not a doctor. I'm not giving medical advice. Learn about the study. I give you a bibliography to go deep.
Starting point is 00:21:57 You know, the lawyers made me take out, you know, the five supplements that I highly recommend. Oh, really? Because the lawyers are out there, but happy to, you know, answer anybody on. social with that. If I listen to lawyers, the book would be one page long and we'd all be out of work and and and a Terminator would win. But AI isn't evil. It's a tool. I created the first social network to reach a million people a decade before Facebook. I never saw the negative sides of it. I started commerce and didn't see what that would do to mom and pop shops. So it's how you use the
Starting point is 00:22:30 tool. And I'm telling you, every career is about to be disrupted. And you, and you, you're You don't get to pick the win. So why not prepare? What got you to the corner office? There's a reason why I've worked with the Pope and with presidents and run multinationals that do, you know, tens of billions a year. It's not because I'm bright. It's because I've spent my career hanging out with the people that are coding the future. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Hang with the people that code the future. That's my new goal. I'm going to work on that. My feed among social media and my pals aren't. Cats playing the piano. It's somebody bragging. Look at a piece of research that I found. And that's really hard to do nowadays because AI is bringing all the greatest stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So you can be the foremost expert and review everything in real time. I posted my substack, J Sam at subsdack.com this week. A guy's dog suddenly had tumors. Okay, cancer. He loves his dog. You love your dog. You're talking about that. He's not a scientist.
Starting point is 00:23:34 He just used chat. GPT, we're talking one of the most generic things, make a long story short, figured out how to get a vaccine made custom for his dog. You don't have to go through all the trials like yeah. Really? And dissolve the tumors and saved his dog. What the hell? I need no more about this for the future because I'm tired of losing dogs to cancer. Why wouldn't we want to have the healthiest, most impactful life. Why wouldn't we want to have our legacy be showing what we can do at any age to show our kids or grandkids? Why wouldn't we want to help people? When I was in school, I don't know about you, my science project was a baking soda and vinegar volcano. I was proud of it.
Starting point is 00:24:17 It exploded. It looked cool. Let me tell you what kids are doing today because they weren't told that they can't or it can't be done. My favorite was a young gal. Parents weren't scientists, weren't engineers, weren't doctors, looked up the number four cause of death. Do you know what it is, Chris? Being in a hospital, number four cause of death. Not what you went in for, just being there. Okay? Long story short, because I know we don't have four months for the show.
Starting point is 00:24:44 What if sutures after a surgery change color if there's an infection? Bingo bingo. Made it because it's about pH balance, played with fruits and vegetables, learned how to do it online. Got a patent, because she probably watched Shark Tank, knew of that. By the time she went to college and saving 100,000 people a year, their lives, I've wasted my life. Like another one, a junior high school kid saw mom crying.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Why? The mom's sister got diagnosed with breast cancer. Figured out how to build a neural network. You don't even have to know what that is. And now has a way that doctors are identifying cancer much earlier. AI has seen every mammogram. Your doctor's seen 10,000. Who can identify patterns better?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Someone with all the data or someone with some data. So for some of these things, your eye doctor, have you ever been? And they take that bright light at your eye and looks like a picture like a yolk. I hate that thing. They're looking for eye stuff. Great. You know what AI saw? They can tell you that 10 years from now, you'll be getting Alzheimer.
Starting point is 00:25:56 They can tell you that your kidneys are not functioning off of your eye. Of course, they've seen the patterns of everybody that has that eye that looks like that. They know when and how. I also have a chapter about AI to bring into your home that can monitor your health, to monitor your things. It's one thing when your doctor says, hey, Chris, lay off the food and the booze. You know, you're going to have a heart attack. It's another thing when a wearable says, hey, Chris, call the ambulance. you're only having a heart attack in 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Whoa. I worked on for foreign government, they've put in for all their populations, small country, wealthy country, that when the wearable says that you're having a heart attack, ambulance is sent. No humans involved automatically. Autonomous ambulance is sent.
Starting point is 00:26:47 You go down to the lobby. Your doctor's notified. He gets himself to the hospital, and the hospital has all your medical records when you show up. That's what I call health. health care. The U.S. is number 67 in health care. Number 67? Yeah. There's only 180 countries. So we're a C minus. What? So let me now talk to the people that are really suffering now. And I'm being serious. This is what motivates me
Starting point is 00:27:14 to write this. Half of the people that retirement age have no savings. Americans have a negative net worth. They're in death. College kids are graduating with a mortgage and no house. And there's only one job for each 67 college graduates. There's a new term for your show. Used to be the glass sealing, women couldn't get in the C-suite. It's now called the glass floor. Nobody's getting entry jobs in corporate America because AI is cheaper and CEOs are only care about the next 16 weeks, the quarter because I was a CEO. You make your quarterly numbers. They back up the Brinks truck and make a ton of, give you a ton of money. You don't care long term. So here's who I'm speaking to. The government's not going to take care of you.
Starting point is 00:27:58 You're going to have to figure this out right now, and it doesn't take any brains. It doesn't take a degree. It just takes asking questions. And you can do it. I believe in you. I've seen it. I've proven it. I've taught it.
Starting point is 00:28:14 That's what I'm here about. And here's the good thing. Entrepreneurs don't sell anything. They solve things. Yeah. Chris, you help guys with dating. You're solving a problem. You make money.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Sol for a thousand people. you make money. Sell for a million. You're rich. Self for a billion. You change history. If I can get more people solving problems, makes a better world. That's all we're trying to do. Nobody ever went into a hardware store to buy a quarter inch drill bit. What they wanted was a quarter inch hole. The drill bit solved the problem. So that's all we're trying to do. You see problems in your life. And if you have money, shame on you for dying with it. Put it to and solve something. Remember when all the billionaire friends pledge their money, that when they die, they'll give their $100 billion or $200 billion to charity? Two things.
Starting point is 00:29:10 300 people signed that pledge. Only 15 have not renewed on it. Okay. Because if they were serious about helping, if you had the ego to make $100 billion, who do you think is better at spending that money to do good? Whoever you give it to when you're dead that never, figured out how to make that kind of money or you the person who earned it so when bill gates stepped down as microsoft he was the richest man in the world and a friend of them said nobody's going to remember that you bill there's always going to be a richest guy it's kind of you can imagine can annoy somebody that was that successful it's true but they said you know what you know what'll make you remembered what if you're the first person to wipe a disease off the planet or never been done
Starting point is 00:29:58 So Bill focused on getting rid of polio. There was a vaccine, but how do you get its place without refrigeration? How do you do this? He's been retired 25 years. Here's his legacy. He's cut childhood mortality, the death of children, in half globally, saving 25 million lives a year. And most countries aren't reproducing themselves.
Starting point is 00:30:25 People stopped having babies. The U.S. isn't having babies. Japan sells more adult diapers than kid diapers. That's why the robots are coming to fill in the jobs. If robots working, by the way, won't be paying in Social Security, which means there's nobody paying in to support old people. China's one child policy, that child has to support two parents and four grandparents. The pyramid falls over.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I can't change what governments are messing around doing. And they're out dividing people. What I can do is give anybody that wants a life raft, a lift up. The second hack advantage leverages your strengths, what makes you you. And it doesn't have to be a tech business. There's one guy who makes these beautiful Noah's arcs and little animals out of wood. He was in his 80s. His grandson told him how to put up a website and then how to post some social media.
Starting point is 00:31:20 He's sold out. He can't make them fast enough. But he's bringing joy. and he gets the joy of seeing kids play with the toys. Yeah. So what you're, I think to summarize what you're saying is you're saying that AI is going to make it much more easy to be a problem-solving entrepreneur. Because that's what entrepreneurs do,
Starting point is 00:31:40 and at the same time, wipe out tons of tons of jobs. So even if you weren't sure about being entrepreneur, you're not going to have a choice. So why not start the side hustle now? There's the warning. Yeah, why not start the side hustle now? I mean, we're seeing these massive layoffs in 2026 here right now and late of 2025. And this is usually the opportunity zone. Yeah, everybody in Silicon Valley, all your big tech giants, the biggest market cap companies laying off tens of thousands of engineers at a time when there's whole countries.
Starting point is 00:32:14 If you go to India, slight exaggeration, no offense to my brothers and sisters in India, there's basically one college major. Really? Yeah, being an engineer. You know, you're going to study liberal arts. You want to, you know, be a painter. No, get an engineer. Get a good job. Those jobs are gone.
Starting point is 00:32:32 All those countries that live off of the factory work we sent over, those jobs are gone. How are there people going to make a living? I just got hired by a nation state to work on their five-year plan because they're looking at all their jobs disappearing in their country. When I say a third of all country jobs disappear doesn't mean it's equally divided by every country. Some countries are going to be devastated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I thought it was interesting that the highest paid, some of the highest paid members of a society, the coders, the coders, doctors, lawyers, accountants, consulting. When I give this talk, I give these talks over the world, the safest job at the bottom is dentist. And then I cut to the next slide.
Starting point is 00:33:17 The safest is dentist? Right. Cut to the next slide. In Germany, now a robotic dental arm so it can do cavities without a dentist might freak you out but a country's that don't have dentists it's better than agonizing pain but the second one is thanks to AI they figured out with stem cells humans can now regrow teeth no more crowns bridges regrow the teeth wow like a lizard getting a tail yeah the wows are unbelievable when
Starting point is 00:33:49 Google figured out how, man, humankind figured out how to fold, figure out the folds of one protein, one protein strand. Google put a special AI on it and did 300,000 or maybe there are 3 million, did every protein, which means we now have new cures for almost anything. We're behind in putting them into practice. But you sell courseware, correct? Okay. Everybody, my point is, if you made it to a certain age, you've learned something. Hey, I can help you build that course. Make those videos.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Do the lessons. Market it. Make the sales funnel all in one hour. And then you can sit back and watch the money come in. I have a professor friend who does this live as a demo. Here's the topic. Let's make a course. Here's these great videos.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Here's the spokespeople. Here's everything like unbelievable. And it looks human. I'll tell you a job because I know some of your audience. I wouldn't say this on most shows. You know what job is not expecting to be wiped out? Politicians. 18 to 24-year-old women in this country,
Starting point is 00:35:00 the percent that are on OnlyFans is astronomical. It's above 20 percent. Millions of people, and I don't judge, are making money as what's affectionately called mattress actresses. Many of those now are AI. The porn industry is being replaced by those aren't humans. Your influencers, the number one influencer, there's many influencers that are making a million dollars a month and they're not real. They're AI and they're not disclosing it.
Starting point is 00:35:33 The number one influencer in Pakistan is a nice attractive woman wearing the hijab. She isn't real. She's made by somebody sitting in code somewhere. The number one soap opera actress in China right now. Everybody else on the cast is real. She isn't. And people are sending love letters and falling in love with this. Did you hear about the Trump AI, the young gal who has these pictures that she's hanging on?
Starting point is 00:36:02 In the military? She's in the White House. I think she's got a million followers and they're sending her money. So many. They're going to replace all the influencers because they cook better. They can match whatever looks. You know, the power's the B. AI can figure out what somebody's clicking on and say, okay, I have a legitimate product.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I think it'll appeal to whatever. Let me get guys that only want blonde hair and a different ad that goes to guys that only click on blue eyes or want this, that or the other thing. Your ads are going to get so bespoke that you're going to go, wow, I really want to get to know who's that.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And the next thing, you know, they're selling your life insurance. So the world's an exciting place. You can solve. You can do great good. And the people that are just not taking the, I can't do it, your parents didn't want you to fail. Your teachers didn't want you to fail.
Starting point is 00:36:53 So they steered you towards the safe path that doesn't exist. Ozzie and Harriet, the Brady bunch, the middle class has been eviscerated. 30,000 people in the U.S. own 90% of all land, companies, stocks, and bank accounts. Wow. So you're not succeeding because you're an idiot. You're succeeding because you bought into something that wasn't. It wasn't a lie when it was told to you, but it is now.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I got, I stumbled on this journey. I went to school, get the good grades, you'll get a good job and live happily ever after. I got out in a recession. Nobody was hiring. I also had my two sons very young. So I looked down at their faces, greatest motivators ever. I couldn't give up. So I went where nobody else was doing, you know, and constantly invented new things and got lucky and learned a pattern.
Starting point is 00:37:47 teach people how to do that. I'm not one of these names that you have on the show and everybody else. Come to my mastermind. I'm going to charge you this. I don't want to make a dime off you. You have to buy the book because the publisher needs to get them into airports and do all that. Right. So is living 28 years longer worth the price of a cronut and a frappuccino?
Starting point is 00:38:12 Definitely. If it is, buy the second act advantage. And I will share the other thing that motivated. me. And this was a surprise since we've talked, Chris. I've now heard from readers. My books are in over a dozen languages. I've heard from readers in 140 countries. Do that as a bracket. How is that possible? I can walk down any street in any city. I'm an unknown. But people are thirsting for this knowledge around the world for what we're talking about. When I was a public NASDAQ CEO and made millions or hundreds of millions for the board, I never got an email. Hey, Jay, great
Starting point is 00:38:45 job, thanks. But I'm getting what I call love letters. I get emails from people that thank me for changing their life that I didn't do anything. I just take the blinders off and help point you. And now, hopefully with DigitalJ, I can give you that personal attention, that daily motivation and always give you current information. So you don't like the health care. You're broke. You're worried about number one cause of bankruptcy in this country. Medical problems. What about What's called geo-arbitrash? Make your digital income in the U.S., but is there another place that you could live
Starting point is 00:39:20 less expensively but richer? You know, Costa Rica, Portugal. One guy that I talked about in the book moved to Italy for a hundred-something dollars. He gets his health care, and he got both knees replaced, his cataract and everything, and his out-of-pocket for that was $1,000.
Starting point is 00:39:41 That would bankrupt people without insurance in this country. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I just had two hernia surgeries and looked at the bill. You know, thank God for insurance. I don't know. Why am I thinking? And some countries, and I talk about this. And again, DigitalJ can steer you.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It's the latest and greatest. There's countries that are now doing, you know, medical tourism. You don't have to have a citizenship, whatever. Go to Thailand. It's like checking into a Ritz Carlton. There's a person assigned to you, you know, the care part of health, takes you around to all the different doctors you want to see. has all your stuff done.
Starting point is 00:40:16 You stay in a beautiful suite, you know, and you leave healthy and not broke. Ah. Let's say, I think we've got the book in the pitch there. And so people get access to that AI system that you built. If they buy the book, is there like a code or something in the book? How does that work? Yeah, in the book, it shows you how to get to DigitalJ.
Starting point is 00:40:38 There's nothing to download. It's all web-based. For those that buy it now, if you're hearing this before, Cinco de Mayo of 26, just reach out to me at jay sammit.com or on Instagram or anywhere you can find me. I'm easy to find LinkedIn. And I will give, I will trust you. I will give you the link so you can start playing with DigitalJ now. You don't have to send me the receipt.
Starting point is 00:41:01 If you're going to lie to someone that's trying to help you survive, you've got bigger problems than maybe you need the money more than, you know, but yeah. I'll tell that to people on Facebook at Marketplace when I'm selling something. really low balmy. I go, look, man, if you need the money, you need to save that amount of money like 20 bucks that bad, maybe you shouldn't be buying my thing, because you really need to be saving your money. I did the opposite. When I moved during COVID from my place in Bel Air, I had a whole big gym setup that I didn't need where I'm going. So I put it up waiting for the one kid that would go, could I just get this thing or whatever? And I go, can you get access to a truck?
Starting point is 00:41:44 He goes, yeah, my dad, my dad's a gardener. I said, no problem. Tell them everything that you can carry is yours for free. Rob, come on over to Jay's house for stuff. I've had a blessed life, right? I, you know, to do half of what I've done, I'd come back again. So the way I keep doing is I just try to pay it forward. That's all I spent the past 10 years doing,
Starting point is 00:42:09 and it's been the most rewarding 10 years of my life. Once I took care of me and mine, I didn't see a reason. I don't need, you know, I won't out him. He's very good to me. But somebody just built a $500 million yacht, okay? Not judging. You can land a helicopter and has a little boat inside it, not judging. What I'm judging is you just spend $500 million on a boat that is so complex that it has to be followed by a $200 million dollar
Starting point is 00:42:42 boat because all the crew can't fit on your $500 million boat to make it work. What the hell? Who should have bitch-slap that person, okay? Oh, my God, it's hilarious. I've worked with a few billionaires that suddenly found out that they were going to die in six months. Paul Allen was one. The two others are still with us and alive, so I don't think I can out them
Starting point is 00:43:10 on the size of your audience. But what happened the second they found that out, their priorities changed. So the other two people turned out they didn't die. But once they found the joy that comes from having a purpose, from helping others, they've dedicated their lives and done amazing things. And one of the two, it was very good to me. Everybody said, how could you work with him? He is a cutthroat prick.
Starting point is 00:43:35 To me, he was a nice guy because he needed me at a time when I was the alma nerd in the world. but you'll get such satisfaction of paying it forward. And some of the things people did, there was a woman in Texas, 87 years old. Now, I'm lazy. I've already talked about that, okay? That chapter on health is called the lazy nerds guide to living 28 years long. She's 87. To put in perspective, her grandmother was born enslaved.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Okay? We're not that far removed from the Civil War when he put it that way. So her whole life, she wanted Juneteenth to become a holiday. Politicians gave lip service and everything. She was tired of it. She waited her whole life. So at 87, she decided she was going to walk from Texas, walk. Forrest Gumpstile, walk from Texas to Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:44:23 So the press would notice what people would notice. By the time she got to the White House, it was a federal holiday. I mean, you can change the world. Another woman got midlife. She got divorced. Her husband ran off, left her. depressed, death, okay, and divorce. Somebody said, you're either going to have to get a therapist or a dog.
Starting point is 00:44:48 She couldn't afford the therapist. So she got a dog to feed the dog. Her local dog store had a contest for Christmas. Make a Christmas card with your dog. If it wins the contest, you get free dog for the year. So she made a card of her cute bulldog Zelda with the Santa Cap. And it said, for Christmas, I got a dog for my husband. And you open it up and said, good trade.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Huh. Good trade. She sold a million of them the first year. Really? Wow. Her Zelda Wisdom does $50 million a year. What the hell? So there's ways to do this.
Starting point is 00:45:24 If you can learn these tools, so if you weren't, if you thought social media was for young kids, there's old people playing video games making six and seven figures because people just like to watch it. There's old people cooking. There's old people eating. you can find and monetize and create a course you can mentor other people you can get a younger person to mentor you you can be more connected more alive and find more joy yeah more joy more joy and all with AI Jay do we want to get a plug in here for any services on your website that you offer
Starting point is 00:45:59 speaking consulting coaching any of that I thank you I the only people that can hire me is when there's something that I think makes a difference for humanity. I'll join their board. I've raised hundreds of millions of hours. The last one of those was for a past hundred years, we grow food by slathering with poison that kills the bees, the birds, the little mice, you know, the weeds, everything. But it doesn't give us cancer for 20 years so the food companies can make money. An engineer that worked for me, his dad died of Parkinson's from handling, you know, all these chemicals. He came up with a better way. What if we made robots? Think of a little thing like an ice chest that go up and down the rows like corn and just cut the weeds instead of poison.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Fast forward. Greenfield, robotics. Farmer makes more money. He's growing organic. Doesn't have to buy all those chemicals. Farmer doesn't eat cancer. The excess doesn't run off the Mississippi, kill all the fish in the Gulf of Mexico. And we don't get cancer and die. That's a good idea. How do I think at night knowing that I don't help that company? So I became the found, joined the founders, you know, helped them raise money. chairman so those are the things otherwise i don't want to work right so you have to guilt me into working so that's the only thing to plug you wrote a book and there's some working there but that
Starting point is 00:47:15 guilted me i i i see the tsunami of job loss coming i see problems before they happen the second act solution is the first step in a journey hopefully to everybody having a better more fulfilling life you're too young to believe that this doesn't apply the hardest gifts to give her Mother's Day and Father's Day, right? Give your parents or grandparents a brighter future. Cheaper than a dozen roses than the last longer and it shows that you really care. Put Grandma to work, damn it. Get her out of it.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Get her quit sitting around the house. But no, I mean, AI is really great. I've tried to get my mom to start using it to help her with stuff. She, you know, I've finally got, I think for a year she's been hooked on Google. you know, hey Google, that way, I just probably trigger. But there's also AI you can put in our home so you can see, did she get out of bed? She can move. She's making the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:48:13 What's her blood pressure today? There's AIs that can talk to her and play games and do stuff which she'll enjoy as part of her day, but it also matches and watches if there's cognitive decline or things the family members should know about if heart rate has gone up, you know, lots of tools that are helpful. There's one guy who made a parrot for his father that sits there. It can talk with the talking parrot and it watches and it does vitals. It's amazing. But whatever new is exciting, I always put in my J. Samet subsdack.com.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Again, it's a free substack, but I do it because there's always stuff that excites me. And I want a constant channel to, you know, stop the doom scrolling and learn some cool stuff. But I like the doom scrolling. Anyway. Jay, I. As we go out, give people final pitch out to pick up your book or, you know, I think maybe we've done that. So j-a-Y-s-a-M-I-T.com, that's where you can find all the information. Future, that was the last book.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Second Act Advantage. And it comes with the first book to come with a custom AI that was trained specifically just to help you. And I know you can do it. So thank you for sharing your audience with Chris. Thanks for tuning in and everybody. And email me and let me know. how it's worked out for you and what you're doing so I can share your success stories with the world. Thank you very much. We certainly appreciate it, Jay. Jay, we certainly appreciate it, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Thank you. Thank you. And thanks, sir, honest, for tuning in. Order of Jay's book. I've already bought it on audio book there, so it's coming my way. On May 6th, or I'm sorry, May 5th, 2026. It's called the Second Act Advantage, Monetize Your Wisdom, Master, Longevity, and Build an unforgettable legacy. Thanks for much for tuning in. Go to Goodrease.com, Fortress, Chris, Chris Foss, LinkedIn.com, Fortress, Chris Foss, 1 on the TikTok, and all those crazy places on the internet. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you. Next. You've been listening to the most amazing, intelligent podcast ever made to improve your brain and your life. Warning. Consuming too much of the Chris Walsh Show podcast can lead to people thinking
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