The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – The Warrior Sings by Michelle Dosanjh-Johal

Episode Date: August 3, 2025

The Warrior Sings by Michelle Dosanjh-Johal Michelle-dosanjh-johal.mykajabi.com https://www.amazon.com/Warrior-Sings-Michelle-Dosanjh-Johal/dp/1666745812 During the height of suffering, the soul s...ilently speaks. Poetry evolves from the depths of this experience, when one is brave enough to surrender to the darkness and explore its lessons. Poetry becomes the place where healing amalgamates with writing, and the soul's musings are voiced. That is how The Warrior Sings: a poetry book of raw, vulnerable, and genuine expression, and an authentic invitation to finding your own courage, healing, and empowerment.About the author Michelle Dosanjh-Johal is a special education teacher, wife, and mom to children with autism and Mosaic Turner Syndrome. The challenges navigated with her children’s diagnoses, including her daughter’s open heart surgery, led her back to writing poetry as an agent of healing and self love. Her poetry, seen as a call for hope and healing, can also be found on her IG page @mindful.warriors.way. She is a Golden Key Honor recipient at Simon Fraser University.

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Starting point is 00:01:13 You're trying to judge. You're listening to the brilliant authors that come across this show for 16 years, 2,400 episodes. And boy, do we have another wonderful young lady who's going to lighten you and brighten you today and also teach you how to deal with stress. So we're going to get into it with her, but in the meantime, we need to guilt, shame and cajole you into getting five people in your downline to tell them to go to Goodreads.com, Fortress Crispus, LinkedIn.com, Fortress Crispus. We should turn this into an MLM, probably make some money or not, get sued. That's what MLMs usually do. Go to Facebook.com, Fortress Crisp Chris Foss, LinkedIn.com, Forchess Christmas, and stop me before I segue again in the ramble.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Opinions expressed by guests on the podcast are solely their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host or the Chris Foss show. Some guests of the show may be advertising on the podcast, but it is not an endorsement or review of any kind. She is the author of the latest book called The warrior sings out July 29th, 2022. We are joined today by Michelle dosage. Joel Hall. Did I get that right? Michelle.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Got it. Thank you, Chris. She's also known as DJ Michelle in circles, but I'll leave that story to her. So anyway, we're going to get into her background, her experience of life, and she's gonna tell you how you can live your life better, damn it. So she is a special education teacher, wife and mom to children with autism and Mosaic Turner Syndrome. The challenge is navigated with her childhoods, her children's diagnoses, including her daughter's
Starting point is 00:02:42 open heart surgery, let her to write back, let her back to writing poetry as an agent of healing and self-love. Her poetry, seen as a call for hope and healing, can be found on her IG page, mindful.warriors.way. She's a Golden Key Honor recipient at the Simon Fraser University. Welcome to the show. Michelle, how are you? I'm great. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for coming. We really appreciate it. And give us your dot coms. Where do you want people to find you on those interwebs in the sky? Yeah. So I am on Kajabi. So mindfulwarriorsway.com. I am also on Instagram, mindfulwarriorsway.com,
Starting point is 00:03:22 and mothers of mental health. I have two different accounts and you can email me at michelle.johal.com. So that is michelle.johal.com. make sure you get this double L on that Michelle because some Michelle's do one. One L, that's correct. Yeah. I'm not sure what the conspiracy is behind all that. That's for another show. The links to your stuff will be on the Chris Foss show if anybody needs to find them as well.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Give us an overview. What's inside your book, The Warrior Sings? Yeah. So The Warrior Sings really came about with my life story and the struggles and the challenges that I went through with my children. I'm going to basically give you a quick rundown. At three, my son was being diagnosed with autism. At 11, he was also being diagnosed with an extreme mood disorder. My daughter was being diagnosed with high functioning autism at nine. And then by 11, God bless this doctor who just became suspicious and we had taken her
Starting point is 00:04:39 in for something completely different and he became suspicious based on her height because she was a short kid and I just thought she was a short kid but he did this blood test and it comes back positive for something called mosaic turner syndrome. So unfortunately what that meant for her was a whole slew of health issues. So she ended up with full-on open heart surgery By the time she was 15, at 17 she was diagnosed with another health condition probably interlinked with the Turner syndrome. And then she ended up with multiple blood transfusions and she was hospitalized then as well. Three months out of her she had to step away from school for three months. And then at the end when when she was turning 18, she ended up with the scariest
Starting point is 00:05:28 mental health crisis we've ever encountered. And so she, I have to practice this so people understand this was and is a gentle, kind, I mean, young adult now, very compassionate, articulate. And she woke up a completely different person. She wasn't herself anymore. One moment she would be raging, throwing things. And I just thought, okay, she was ill at the time. And I thought, okay, maybe she's just finally sick and tired of being sick all the time. But then she started to laugh like maniacally.
Starting point is 00:06:05 She would be eating her cereal and next thing you know, she's like eating her bowl. And so something was seriously off. Took her to the hospital. The neurologist thought she had a brain disorder or sorry, a brain infection. And this is because she is immunocompromised. And they thought it was delirium. They thought she had a brain infection. They took two months to rule it out. And then it ends up being ruled as psychosis. So psychosis. Yeah. I feel like people don't talk about it enough because it was the scariest thing we'd ever gone through
Starting point is 00:06:48 to have this child who is yours turn into someone completely different. And it's like five months in and out of hospitals to finally start to stabilize her and then to get her to the on the right medication. And so the book that we're talking about, and later on I created a program with all of the struggles I had faced and the things that, you know, created, I realized had created resilience in myself. And the book was really one of my avenues to process all of what I was feeling and all of my emotions, which is also part of the program, is to feel, you know, and process. We can't pretend like these things haven't happened or it's going to become illness in your own body. And so I basically processed everything. And this was the first time I came back to my poetry was when my daughter had just had
Starting point is 00:07:48 her open heart surgery. So at 15 and four weeks in my son, his extreme depression at 11 was showing up for the first time. So you can imagine 11 years old and extremely depressed. Like how does that even happen? Yeah. And yeah, you haven't even found bills and taxes yet. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:15 But that was the case and he's autistic as well. And so he would be running out of the house, like this bolt into traffic. So you can imagine it was really, really scary and it was really, really unsafe. But my counselor told me I needed to find one thing for myself again. And the thing I found was I used to write poetry and I used to write stories and things. And often as an adult, you forget yourself, right? You get so stuck in all your responsibilities. So I came back to my writing and poet dream before you knew it. I had a whole page on Instagram, mindful warriors way. And then before you know it, I was published. So this was a childhood dream of mine to be published and I had managed to transform my pain and my trauma
Starting point is 00:09:07 Into art and I feel like everyone can transform their pain into something powerful Yeah And a lot of us what we talk about in the show I mean one of the reasons we have people like yourself on that that our authors, you know They've gone through these cathartic moments in life, these tragedies, these challenges, and they've, you know, through trial and tribulation, sometimes the hard way, they figure out a blueprint of how to survive and find hope again and emerge from those tragedies. And then they go and share them with others. And that's, we talk about
Starting point is 00:09:42 that a lot on the show. I mean, the show is the assimilation of blueprints of different people's, you know, tragedies or challenges in life and ways that they've found that come out of them so that people can go, wow. And, you know, and also the most important thing too, is I think to realizing you're not alone in the world and the tragedy you're going through. There are other people that have had it survived and knowing that kind of keeps you in the game. You know, you're like, okay, I'm not, you know, cause that isolation and please people, if you feel like you're isolated dial 9 88 on your phone and and ask for some mental help is free. But no, I'm glad you found this, this vehicle
Starting point is 00:10:18 for yourself because you know, one of the problems of being a mother or a parent, you know, there's an old saying you just like the flight thing, you've got to put your oxygen mask on first because you can't help others if you don't take care of yourselves. And mothers are naturally so giving of themselves and you know, they're so focused on their children and you know, making sure everything and they're just hypervigilant. I think women are designed with a hypervigilance toward their children because of that reason and protecting them and providing them the best that they can. And mom always eats last is kind of a saying some people say.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And moms have to take care of herself too. And these are challenging times. You're getting hit from all angles with your children. Yeah, absolutely. And that's something that I came to realize, right? Cause there's this misconception is that self-love is selfish. And it's actually, that's not true. And self-love is not the same as self-worship, right?
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm not saying we're not saying go and make yourself better than other people. It's not narcissism. Self-love just places you as an equal because often, like you said, mothers forget to be taking care of themselves. But when we come from a healed place, we're so much better off for our children and for everyone else. So it's not selfish. Pete Yeah. And you scored a few things, but you know, sharing your stories, sharing your poems, there's the great thing about being an author is there's going to be people that are reading your book, you're going to touch, you're going to change your life, you're going
Starting point is 00:11:50 to move them. You know, I remember I, we used to feed an automation, a feed of, of positive quotes into Twitter and there really wasn't a thought process. It was just positive quotes. We put on automated machine. This is what it is. Twitter. And over the years I had two people write me and say, I was going to commit suicide
Starting point is 00:12:04 today. And I planned it and I was gonna do it. And your quote, just some anonymous thing, no intention to save people from suicide, came across and you saved me. And it was powerful because you're just like, wow, it just was, you know, scurrying around on Twitter. I've actually had similar things happen on Instagram
Starting point is 00:12:24 as I also try to be very really positive about how You can get through the dark times if you find yourself anchored and for me that anchor was The love that I had for my children because I went through some seriously dark times But when I focus on how much I love my kids That pulled me through and had a similar thing happen, I've had a couple of people reach out and say that they were basically ready to end their lives and somehow I managed to help them get past that,
Starting point is 00:12:56 which was a blessing, which was a blessing. You know, everyone wanted to be at that point, you know? Yeah, and we all are at that point, you know? Yeah. And we all are at different stages. We all go through different things. We all go through different troubles. And you know, knowing that you're not alone, finding other people that can help you, lift you, they share their stories, you know, you just never know.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Sometimes you find out, you know, someone come up to you and be like, hey, this story really changed my life. And you're like, wow. Okay. And so that's great. But when did you first start writing poems? I think you mentioned that you brought it back to poetry. Were there poems you were writing when you're youth or what were some of the
Starting point is 00:13:32 things you were doing there? I used to write as a child and then possibilities take over and you forget all the things you're passionate about. You forget parts of yourself. And so I came back to it and about, it was a COVID time that I came back to it. And it was, you know, I think I just mentioned my daughter had just had her open heart surgery. My son was going through his extreme depression. That's when I actually started writing.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So I just made no excuses. You know, I just thought, okay, I don't have a lot of time, but I can certainly write while I'm drinking my morning coffee. So I'd have, you know, a cup of coffee in one hand, writing my poem out with my other hand and, and it happened. Pete Slauson Yeah. And as long as you don't spill your coffee on the coffee. Mara Bregman It might have happened, but once or twice, you know, I got through that. Pete Slauson I do that sometimes, read Marcus Aurelius in the morning out in the patio getting my vitamin D, you know, and I'll in the morning out in the patio getting my vitamin D You know, and I'll have the coffee there in the book and
Starting point is 00:14:29 You're like I thought I was picking up the book I picked it up here so now you've developed this I believe into a kind of a brand if you will or a Resiliency brand talks about some of the things you're doing on your website and ways you're utilizing your knowledge to help other people. Yeah, absolutely. What I did was, because people kept asking me, how is it that you're even okay? How are you still standing? How are you still laughing? And how are you still happy?
Starting point is 00:14:57 And I would just say, well, maybe I'm a witch. That sounds like some Salem, Massachusetts, 1600 stuff. Yeah. But the truth of the matter was, I'm a big nerd. witch. That sounds like some Salem Massachusetts 1600 stuff. Yeah, but the truth of the matter was, so I'm a big nerd. And so all along, and I have also had the privilege of teaching social and emotional learning here in the Surrey School District. That was the Surrey School District, social emotional learning teacher, learning all these strategies, taking all these courses, online free courses for mental
Starting point is 00:15:25 health with Yale, UBC, whatever I can get my hands on. And so there was all these evidence-based practices that I realized I had been learning about, but I'd also been utilizing. So I thought about and reflected on all the things I'd been doing and I put it together in a program. And it's called Make Stress Your Bitch. I love that title. It's about finding that out that resiliency is really a superpower, but anyone can learn
Starting point is 00:15:58 it. Anyone can learn it through strategies. And so the framework I created is AST, so that you can feel better fast. Okay. And each letter carries a different module and a different set of learnings with it. And what's the main thing again? I just want to clarify that. So the name of the program.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You said there was acronyms or a… Oh yes, acronyms. What is the full sentence of the word? F A S T fast. F A F T fast. So you can feel better fast. Okay. That's very different than the F A R T that I had after talking about. I just want to make sure we were clear on that. Yes. Yes. Let's be clear on that. Definitely. Well, talk about what's pretty clear. Yeah. So the stop making me laugh. This is very serious.
Starting point is 00:16:53 We do this on the show. We mix a little bit of this, that and the other. Yeah. So did you want me to elaborate? Please do. Okay. So F is, and I talked a little bit about it already, about the importance of feeling and not blocking our emotions and processing the things we need to process.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And there's so many different ways we can do it, you know, but that is the F part is to make sure we feel and express. And one of the ways that we can feel into the things that we need to process is finding our passion, finding our gifts. And so for me, it was writing, but for someone else, it might be, you know, for you, it's podcasting and other things. So everyone has gifts and it's just a matter of tapping into it, whether it is art, whether it's sports, whether it's academia, you know, whether you're a nerd, doesn't matter. You all have a gift and you can use your emotions as fuel and passion for your gifts. Yeah, and feeling to what you need to feel. Pete Slauson Passion is a great motivator and, and what's
Starting point is 00:18:07 some other word I could use? It's a great thing to get stuff done in life. I mean, all great things, I think built in life are built with passion. David I don't know, I can't think of anything. I don't know, I was going to use the statue of David and I'm just like, I don't know about that. I was thinking of trying to think of great artworks and stuff that were created with passion. So just imagine folks like Leonardo da Vinci, you know, passion. So yeah, and you're right, it can be a driving energy. That's what I'm looking for, driving force and emoting us to be best. What are some other aspects of the FAFTA process? So the A and the S, they stand for to accept and surrender to the things that you cannot change so
Starting point is 00:18:53 that you can focus the rest of your energy on that, which you can change. So there are things that were given in my life that they're here already. If it's already here, I can't change that, right? My kids have autism. I'm not going to be able to change that. My daughter has this health condition.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I can't change that. And often as a special needs teacher, what I would see is a lot of parents who are wishing that their kid was neurotypical when they're not, or that their intelligence was different when it wasn't. They have an intellectual disability or whatever the fact might be. And it is in this resistance to what's actually there where the suffering happens. Yeah. Denial of the truth, denial of reality, maybe?
Starting point is 00:19:44 Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Or you start creating this victim mindset around it. I wish this wasn't here. I wish this wasn't here. It's bloody well here. That's just going to waste your energy. You have to accept the fact that it's here, but what are you going to do about it? Right? But if you don't don't then you're just gonna be stuck No, yeah, and that's suffering and that's gonna waste all of your energy Crashing about Yeah The hardest thing that I have to accept as a mother was my daughter's psychosis
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah, and and it was not easy as a mother was my daughter's psychosis. And it was not easy, but it was there. And so it was about the third time we went back to the emergency room. And by this point she had become suicidal. And usually she was this really gentle, calm, I keep calling her a kid, but she's you know a young adult now. She was gentle and she was calm, but at that point they had to put her in restraints because she kept trying to leave and run away from the hospital and she wanted to kill herself. Somehow she had become like Houdini. So she's like breaking free from these restraints and then running away.
Starting point is 00:21:02 So they had to put her in this room. It was like a prison cell. So it was like concrete walls. There was a steel toilet, mattress on the ground. And at the same time, her IBD was acting up and I didn't know if I was going to lose her. So it was like, it was the worst hour. And so I sat there, she was sleeping on the mattress. I sat down and I just had this conversation with God and I just kind of surrendered it because I was like, well, if this is what's here, I guess this is what I'm going to have to deal with. So I'm just going to have to accept that. And I sat there and I actually blocked this out of my mind for a long time because when you have so much trauma sometimes the brain will do that. And it just came back to me recently. But I sat
Starting point is 00:21:56 there and I meditated and I actually found a moment of peace. Wow. Yeah. And exactly. And I was thinking to myself, how is this even possible? I'm in the middle of the worst, horrific nightmare. How am I feeling some kind of peace right now? And I think it was in the surrender. Yeah. Yeah. There's kind of a moment, I think in those moments where I always think of a moment of gratitude, but I think you're right. I think it's surrender. And so what I usually find in the most cathartic moments,
Starting point is 00:22:31 and believe me, I learned this hard way because I've done a few, not by choice, thanks life, but welcome to life. And a lot of times I found when I hit rock bottom or I hit that moment that gratitude is kind of what I turn to. But I think part of that is the surrender you're talking about. It's that moment where you go, okay, we're here and I need to appreciate what little I have left. Thanks, life. And I need to accept that it's gone or it's going. And what do we need to do from here? I don't know if you want to finish your story and I'll tell one of mine. Yeah, no, that was the end of the story.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So I'd love to be worse. I think maybe another example of this is I remember my dog had started not eating. She wasn't eating. She was drinking like a fish. And this is my first episode of cancer of, uh, of animals. And so I didn't know what was wrong, but you know, she was a husky and huskies hold their tail up. So you have to look at their butthole all the time, which is really annoying
Starting point is 00:23:33 is, you know, I'm just like, can you put that thing down? I don't walk around with my underwear out, but, uh, you know, it's husky curled taste. So it's just joke. Anyway. So you're like, you know, I don't even like to see them go in the yard. I'm like, hey man, don't do that for me. So do I do that for you? And they're like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:50 cause we come in the bathroom to watch you. And I'm like, I didn't ask you to anyway, this is just coming. We're working this out with the therapist right now. Anyway, we need more boundaries. I've been telling you, especially in the bed. We need boundaries cause they just take the whole bed and they're just like,
Starting point is 00:24:04 the boundary for you is on the floor. Anyway, so there started to be this bulb that I could see growing and we were starting to get blood on her anal sac area. I didn't know what any of the sac area was until this time. I just, you know, you could see it and you're like, what the hell is that? And you know, it started looking like a pimple and there was blood on my floor. And so I'm like, off to the doctor we go So we went to the doctor the doctor goes. Yeah, I've I've stuck my finger in there and there's cancer everywhere
Starting point is 00:24:32 she's got anal fat cancer and It's pretty bad. Now you could do chemotherapy. She's a 14 year old dog. I mean, you don't torture her. Come on, man She's old. She's she's had a good ride. Call it. And he's do this, go take three days. I take a bunch of pictures, spend the quality time, come back and we're going to call the ball. And I was like, you know, I was just. I mean, it went from perfect life. Everything's perfect.
Starting point is 00:24:56 I'm sure you know what that moment feels like to where everything's just blown up to hell and someone on that night. And I was going through the emotions, kind of what you talked about those, those, the, you know, the theater of feeling attacked and destroyed and feeling kind of victimized. And I got thinking about it and I thought, okay, there's got to be something I can do. Well, there's nothing you do. The doctor said there's nothing you do. And I'm like, what if he's wrong? And, and I started, I started thinking, okay, where am I at? And so I came to that moment, like you say, the surrender moment where I went, okay, this is where we're at. She has cancer and, uh, she may, I, you
Starting point is 00:25:38 know, do I take her in three days or what? What do I do? And at that point I started thinking, I wonder if there's something I can find online to help. I wonder if there's anything I can do. I wonder if I, I need to know more about what's happening with my child. And you probably did the same thing. You're like, I need to know more. I need to read. I need to advocate. I've got to understand what's going on. And so I did that. And within a very short time, I found the raw diet and we put her on a raw meat diet. We cut out sugar, she can't slow sugar. We give her a high fat diet. And I called the doctor and go, we're not coming in the end of the week. We're going to ride this out and see where it goes. And my, my
Starting point is 00:26:14 summation was that I found through that surrender was if she has a death sentence, everything's up from here. If I can find solutions to I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the doctor. And combined with cancer, of course, but but that moment Empowered me the moment I surrendered like you talked about and I said, okay, this is what it is You know and some people like you say they'll deny it. Oh, it's not no It can't be you know, two plus two week doesn't go for there's no way, you know
Starting point is 00:26:58 This is not this doesn't happen to me, you know, and then you're just delaying and mucking up, you know, potential resources you might have. Exactly. And it's not always an easy thing to do. Yeah. But it's the thing that you need to do if you want to free up your energy. And exactly what you're talking about, to figure out what's my action plan and put that energy towards your action plan. So advocate, advocate, advocate, advocate.
Starting point is 00:27:28 You know, I've learned that in the medical field, you know, there were, I got a lot of stories about dogs and quacky vets that, I mean, maybe they had good intentions, they knew some knowledge, but, um, you know, another kid with that same dog we earlier on, we had two doctors telling me she had cancer and to put her down and no doctor saying it's just a it's just a boil that's under the skin let it let it come out and you'll be fine and turns out that's what it was and the other two were given her death sense you have to advocate and you can't do that unless you have that power like you say of surrender but do we go through the whole the whole stanza of the? Well, there's only one point left and that is T and T stands for
Starting point is 00:28:08 transform with your mind. And we've also talked a little bit about transforming with your gifts as well, but mindset is so powerful. Mindset is everything. So you had Sarah Al-Madani and Robin Sharma have talked about how the mind is not your master, it is your servant. What people often do is they just allow the mind to run them without even realizing it. It happens at this subconscious kind of level. And if you allow your mind to run you, it's going to run you into victimhood and victim stories. But if you take control of your mind and start programming
Starting point is 00:28:50 in exactly what you were talking about before with gratitude, with affirmations, with better thoughts, right? With hope, with all those kinds of positive things, then you can transform anything. There are stories of powerful people, you know, people who went through like Viktor Frankl of the concentration camps and lived through it just through the power of mindset and his focusing on the love he had for his wife, you know. Hope is the thing that seems to lift all boats
Starting point is 00:29:20 and be one of our greatest things as human beings. Absolutely, I tattooed hope onto my body. and be one of our greatest things as human beings. Absolutely. I tattooed hope onto my body. So I've got a lotus flower here on my arm and that was for my daughter when she had her open heart surgery and it was because the lotus flower comes from mud. And I told her, after all the suffering of your surgery, you're going to end up with, you know, a fixed heart and something beautiful. And I tattooed that onto my body.
Starting point is 00:29:49 But it's also been a reminder to always hope. So mindset is super powerful. And one thing I think I would leave people with as well is if they're going through a super dark time, to find that kind of an anchor, right? And when you're in that moment, it's hard to do all the things that we're talking about. When you're in that moment, sometimes it's just about just pushing through and getting through the next day and the next,
Starting point is 00:30:17 and then the next until the crisis is over. It feels like you're in a boat and the boat has sprung leaks, and all you can do is stay afloat, right? I say give yourself a lot of grace when you're going through times of crisis and find an anchor, right? So whether that anchor for me, it was I would focus on how much I love my kids and that would pull me through. Your anchor could be love, right? Mindset of love, it could be a mindset of hope, it could be a mindset of faith, you know, thinking that and knowing that better times are ahead. And there are better times ahead and you're able to create that for yourself, but it starts with the power of your mind.
Starting point is 00:31:02 So yeah, the power of your mind and mindset. Now you do a six week course with this make stress your bitch. I do want to tease a little bit of that out to us and how can people on board with that or reach out to you and find out more? Yeah. So you could either reach out like I was mentioning my email or you can reach out through my Instagram or on my website, which is mindfulwarriorsway on Kajabi. And so they, how do they work with you over the six week course? Do they do a one-on-one with you personally?
Starting point is 00:31:33 So there are two one-on-one sessions and then there's my next, my next six week course is going to be starting mid AugustAugust and it will be live group sessions. So for an hour, teaching all the strategies. And so there's there are strategies, there's my FAST formula, the framework. There are strategies of the heart, there's strategies, it's a holistic approach of the soul, there's strategies of the mind, there's strategies of the body. So I have also, you know, thrown in a lot of these evidence-based strategies, but just like you're talking about gratitude, mindfulness, meditation, etc. along with the framework that I just talked about. So yeah, please reach out. I would love, love, love to hear from people.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Reach out so people can reach out to you and do that. Anything more we want to tease out on the show or promote on the show? Well, we're still... You know, you did introduce me as a young lady and I have to correct that. So I'm actually turning 50. And then I'm still young, honey. Give me a break. I'm almost 58. You're young in my book. Okay. We're both young. We're both young. We're both young.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I like this thing. No, it's kind of a Johnny Carson trick that I do where, where we make the guests feel special or we try. Mission accomplished. But in honor of my 50th, upcoming 50th, I actually wanted to be collecting items for the homeless. We have quite a problem here, you wouldn't believe it, but here in Vancouver on Hastings Street. And yeah, and the statistics show, and since I'm a big advocate now for mental health,
Starting point is 00:33:21 50 to 70% is depending on where you look at the statistics or get them from, 50 to 70 percent is depending on where you look at the statistics or get them from, 50 to 70 percent of homeless people actually have a mental illness. And so for my 50th birthday I will be collecting items. Whether it is blankets, food or toiletries, whatever you know they might need and I'll be collecting them and delivering. So reach out to me if you would like to be a part of that That's a wonderful thing British Columbia, Canada. What a beautiful place. What a beautiful place and and the word a British Columbia guys really hot we guys work hard to hide the boots and the stories and the days, don't you? Not really, but every once in a while it does seem to come out.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And then I usually beat my guests. I always get in a boot sometimes during the show and I'm like, ah, I got you. Oh, so you have a lot of Canadians then. I love Canadians. They're the most wonderful people you had a million of on the show. I'm a big rush fan. Um, a big second city fan that you guys produced some of the best comedians in the world best musicians Other than you know, Nickelback. I know I'm just kidding. We like back. It's wonderful strip club music Anyway, you can have Justin Bieber though back. We're still trying to return him and you guys won't let him through
Starting point is 00:34:43 We'll keep tonight Wayne or is it a Shania Twain Canadian? I'm thinking of the other. Is there no Canadian? Yeah. She has Canadian, but isn't also who's the other young lady that's really popular right now with the other women. She's like the number one music star. Is there any tween or something like that?
Starting point is 00:35:02 I'm not sure who you're talking about. I'm not sure, but see talking about. I'm not sure. See, there's the boot. I got one. All right. Well, thank you very much. I'm just mucking about. So Michelle, thank you very much for coming to the show.
Starting point is 00:35:13 We really appreciate it. Oh, I so appreciate being here. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Taylor Swift is Canadian, isn't she? No, I don't think No. I thought she was. I don't think so. She's never going out with me now.
Starting point is 00:35:30 All right then. I don't know if Taylor Swift, I swear to God. I have to Google that now just to be double checked, but I'm pretty sure she's not. I thought she was because you guys produce so many wonderful people up there and I'm a big Rush fan. I think you, I always joke with their Canadian friends. I'm like, you guys have to live next door to us and we're like that drunken old brother all the time who's always picking fights with the way everyone in the world and you guys are up there going,
Starting point is 00:35:55 geez, we're in the fallout zone of these idiots and they're just running around being asshole Americans punching everyone in the face. I don't think it's right. We're being mean to Canadians either. I want to make that point in 2025. I love Canadians, wonderful people. I mean, if anything, Americans need to learn to say sorry a lot more. So that would be good. We think sorry a little bit too much. I personally say sorry too much. Yeah. Yeah. You guys are better than us, I think, but you know, it's cold up there. So you guys say warm. Anyway, thank you very much for coming to the show. Thanks for tuning in or a per book wherever fine books are sold. The warrior sings out July 29th, 2022. Thanks for tuning in. Be good
Starting point is 00:36:33 to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you guys next time. And that should have us out.

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