The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Touched by the Hand of God: In the City of Angels SEND ME! by Patricia L Blake

Episode Date: September 2, 2026

Touched by the Hand of God: In the City of Angels SEND ME! by Patricia L Blake https://www.amazon.ca/Touched-Hand-God-City-Angels/dp/1997587025 This writing is a multi-faceted personal testimony of life changing miracles, faith, guardian angels, and overcoming adversity with strength, courage and relentless resolve under fire. Join the author, Patricia L. Blake, in her personal journey based on a span of thirty-three years with the Los Angeles Police Department. These experiences on the force reflect the human emotional side of police work, deep bonds forged in the line of duty, and a true partnership with the community. The writing is dedicated to all our brave First Responders – our military, law enforcement, fire, and medical personnel who are called to protect and rescue total strangers in their desperate time of need. Hang on for a wild ride filled with twists and turns to the very end, where the reader is promised a shocking unexpected tapestry of emotion, including a newly added special dedication section in memory of the legacy of one of her cherished partners. But there are more incredible surprises waiting at the end, guaranteed to captivate and resonate with the reader. One small clue – the final prose, with the theme “SEND ME”, Isaiah 6:8 will resonate with audiences everywhere with front-row seats into the world of law enforcement based on compelling stories; capturing the heart, leaving indelible hoofprints imprinted on your heart forever. SEND ME: Isaiah 6:8

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Opinions expressed by guests on the podcast are solely their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host or the Chris Voss show. Some guests of the show may be advertising on the podcast, but it's not an endorsement or review of any kind. She's the author of the latest book called Touch by the Hand of God in the City of Angels Send Me by Patricia L. Blake. She joins us on the show. She's a multi-book author. We're going to talk about sober books here as well. Welcome to the show. Patricia, how are you? I am excited to meet you. You're honest. You're the first woman to say that, except for my mom. She got over it quick. Give us any dot com's websites. Where can people find you on

the interwaves? So I have two websites and it's incredibly comprehensive because Warriors and Heroes with an ES for Heroes.com covers interviews with some of my old partners from LAPD, 33, over three decades of law enforcement in the field with the Los Angeles police department reads. The website has music songs connected to the first responders. It's a song for my horse that worked in the field with me.

He was my mounted partner with the cavalry unit. Is that the horse that's on the cover of the book? Yes, sir. Yes. Now, do you have the URLs, the dot coms? You can read us off so people can Google those and read them? I will have to get that for you. This actually is mocha latte and myself in the field.

Okay. All right. And mocha latte was the name of the horse. Yes, he was my rock star partner, courageous, gentle, never refused anything I asked him for. And he was incredibly gentle with the children. And there are photos, several photos of him in the book, honoring him. He was one of my best partners, but I was fortunate enough to work with amazing, incredible partners in the field.

Wow. Yeah. Give us an overview. Is this like a memoir of this book? This is a testimony. Every story is based on incidents that I handle. that stood up, it stood out for me. And I couldn't intend to do this, but when the book was completed, I realized that I was

influenced by the style of Jack Webb, who in the 50s and 60s had a TV series, Adam 12, and one of his famous lines was, Just the Facts, ma'am. Just the Fax, man. That Dragnet was something else. I was a great show. Yes. He was incredible. Yeah. Yeah. They were, that was, I remember there, it was, it's wild to see, I grew up in L.A. and then, oh, 70s. And then I went back there years later and lived for a couple years. And it was, it's wild to see the old L.A. in those, our Dragnet shows.

Isn't it history? It's incredible. It's, and it's like, looks really simple. It's not urban sprawl quite yet, a little bit of it. But you're just like, you're just like, Yeah, they ain't there no more. There's not really any traffic as much on the freeways. It was a simpler life. Chips does that too. You can go back and see the old freeways and stuff. And in fact, they filmed a lot behind her house after the earthquake because I guess the bridges went down or whatever.

It was crazy. They were building a new freeway out by. Yeah, from the, from the Northridge earthquake. Yeah. Was that 89 the Northridge? And the 94. 1904 was Northridge. Yeah, that probably was then.

I was as a kid, but I remember some of the overpasses, I think, came down or got significantly destroyed. Right. Quick, interesting story. I was living outside of the city when the earthquake hit, and my husband at the time, we're now. He's my ex. But he worked Valley Traffic, and he had a motor. and one of his partners and he separately

had tried to cross over the overpass and it had been taken down by the earthquake one of his partners went off the freeway and died oh no

that was unfortunate yeah that is that was horrible yeah it was a devastating earthquake you tell the history of your book how did your horse get its name Moka Latte, correct? Moka Latte. He was my personal horse, but deploying horses, it was a unique experiment program.

So you have to ensure tactics, safety, focus on safety, and you don't want anyone to get hurt, including the horses and traffic. And I was the officer in charge and ensured specific. training, like exposing the horses to flare patterns, helicopters I call in an air unit, and have them fly overhead. So the horses would get used to that, exposed to it. We trained every month with the horses. And Boca was so unique. He would show the other horses like kicking a huge, we call it battle bowl. So to encourage him to me. move forward and teach him to kick it and bite it like if you're in a crowd to move forward in a hallway and so he was I relied on him to show the other horses what to do oh so a good

teacher leader maybe yes and he in 10 years working with the unit he loved working with the children and he was gentle and in that 10-year time period we never had an injury and what was interesting about this is we worked we deployed in the projects like south central san fernando pacoima projects and he he was willing to do anything i wanted and the children i would talk to them and say you have to listen and there's a reason for the safety rules and if you cannot listen or follow the rules you cannot touch the horses most of these kids had never touched a horse in their life so yeah i never had a child not follow the safety rules no running no jumping no streaming no going near

under the horse without someone with you so yeah don't go behind the horse And that proves that children can listen. Yeah. Well, at least some of them. I didn't listen much as a kid, but that was me. I always see the horses. You ever see the horses that are at the Royal Palace in Europe in England where people go up and sometimes piss off the horse, you don't kick him or biting them?

Yes, yes. I love those videos. I'm just like, yeah, bite him, bite him. That is awesome, man. Good job. Don't mess with the horse. He's busy. But yeah, how did you first get involved with horses?

Did you grow up with horses and? Okay. I was born on the Columbia River near it or buy it. Sorry, I didn't. Near it. All right, that's good to know. My grandfather had traditional plow horses and a 140 acre of wheat farm in Oregon. And that's where I got the low.

love of horses, animals, love of the land, appreciation for the land. And the plow horses would help plow the land and gather the wheat with carts and everything. So I had a natural love for horses. That raising gives you. And you probably learn to ride them and maintain them and lead them and all that stuff. Grandpa would pick me up at the age of three and four and throw me on top of the, they're not small animals. These plow horses are stocky.

And I never had a fear of them. I loved it. Those houses are powerful. Christopher Reeve found out of his fear of horses, the heart of him. You're saying? Christopher Reeves jokes. He was a good man. But that was a bad horse that day.

Oh. Bad horse. It's like I say about dogs. There's no bad dogs are good. There's no bad dogs. There's only bad owners. It was probably, I don't know, maybe the horse likes Spider-Man better than Superman. Maybe that was the real problem.

I don't want to really down on this joke, but I am and I've got room to run. What drew you to the police department and working in that area? Oh, okay. So I was the oldest of four children. The guardian, the protector, the rescue. You were the policeman of the sibling. I was too. First child.

First child. Yeah, we're expected to save their little lives. Yeah, I would actually just tell them, you know, go ahead, jump off the bridge. It'll be fine. I can get more presents and Christmas. We were all one year apart. And by nature, I was kind of a rebel. My first day of kindergarten, my mom had never really left us with strangers.

First day of kindergarten, mom took me into the classroom, and then she started to go through the door. And I'm like, this isn't part of the program, the memo. I didn't get the memo. You get the memo. Where's mom going? What the hell is going? Being abandoned here. So the teacher grabbed me from behind the shoulders, and I didn't think she had the right to touch me.

and let my parents do, but not you. So I ripped away from her grip, and I turned and instinctively kicked her in the leg. And she didn't have a sense of humor about it. So I got thrown out of my first day of kindergarten. Yeah, you start off right then. You got to keep those teachers in line. So my mom learned from that.

And she started leaving with us for anyone that would take us. That's how my mom. My mom was in the 70s in LA, she would leave us in the Ralph's, the cars when she'd go in shopping at Ralph's because we were too rambunctious to go in and driving everybody crazy. My brother would just wander off and meet people and just start talking to them like strangers. He had no stranger danger. And so my mom started to leave us in the car because hot sun car, it's a great way to go. And then she put a note on the windshield. She's like, free kids.

Go ahead. Take them. Like one roll. I don't want. How many brothers and sisters? I had three, and so four total, but I was the first child. And yeah, I was always like, I wasn't really the protector. I was like, I just really said, because I had a year and a half of get my own

Christmases and toys. And these other people came out and started cutting into my action. I was just like, yeah, it's bullshit. It's bullshit. I was here first. It's like I tell my siblings, I took all the smart logic reason and good looks and all the best stuff out of the womb and left you guys. guys behind a poop or something. I don't know.

Yeah, darn it. Yeah. That's how I rolled. Now, having a horse in L.A. That's almost kind of, I, when I grew up in the L.A. in the 70s, there are still areas that you had horses like to Tonga Canyon and different places around because there was still a lot of rural

that's still about. But L.A. is quite the concrete quagmire. Yes, now, especially. Yeah. Back then, and I came on in, in 1983 and there weren't very many females on the job. Yeah. So it was a huge learning curve.

It made me even I'm more of a rebel than what I was. Yeah. But you ever do any high-speed chases? Oh, my gosh. You know, LA is famous for those hours long, high-speed chases? I have had several interesting incidents in the field. There was one time where I, I was the passenger and my, We got a radio call of an ADW assault with a deadly weapon.

As we pull up to the location, the suspect got into a vehicle and took off, and one of the person's reporting said, that's him, that's him. So that sounds like OJ. This was like 4.30 in the afternoon. He ended up going through, this was Van Nuys and then ended up. downtown and then ended up on the I-5 on the freeway. He was on a journey. And he had crashed into four cars.

So, yeah, it was fun. Now, did you chase someone with a horse or with a car? With the car. And I did the bus. Tell us to see a bunch of horses running down 405 in one of those classic slow-moving. And get roped. Yeah, they roped the car. Oh, dude, that would be classic.

We'd all tune in for that. So the reason that he stopped was there was this great truck driver that saw what was going on and put his truck across all the lanes and stopped the suspect. And then the suspect didn't want to come out of the vehicle, didn't want to comply. So one of the officers used his menad knock and smashed out the driver's side window and got him out. But that was like almost an hour and a half pursuit. It was a great learning experience for broadcasting and requesting other units, advising them. There's a car crash involving the suspect coordinating resources.

Yeah. It's funny. I always watch those videos. I like, Moe and my favorite show shows used to be cops. I think I've seen about every episode. I was in cops. Oh, were you? On the beat, yeah.

I wonder if I saw in your episodes. I used to get really depressed sometimes because of the stress in my life. I had lots of companies and workers and problems with, there's always somebody pulling something at your office. And so sometimes I get a little depressed of whatever's going on in life. And so I'd sit down and watch two hours of cops and drink some vodka. And by the end of two episodes of cops, you've seen enough where you go, I don't know why I'm depressed.

My life is great. I'm not being tased by police officers. I'm not being pulled over. I'm not having drugs found in my car. I'm not trying to start a fight with the... I always love the guys with the shirt off because when you show up to the mobile home, you know that the guy with the shirt off,

he's the one who's going to try and fight the cops and go to jail. And you're like, yeah. The drunk, stupid one. Yeah, I love the tasering. I love that. You're all going to taser me. I'll kick your ass. And they zap him.

He's like, do I make he's da-a-d-d-d-d-ep. Quick piece-and-piece story. on probation in foothill division where they have the rock similar pacoima and there was a hell's angel biker and they grow them pretty big the hell's angel's bickers like 300 pounds biceps like tree trunks and we responded to back up a unit that was requesting a code tom there are 50 000 volts if you're not familiar with what a taser is. Yeah. I'm on for patients, so my partner says,

tased him. And so I mourned him the suspect first. And of course, he didn't comply. And so when I tased him, it's nighttime. And the darts, he pulls him out and holds him in front of him. And the taser, it arched, like lightning. Yeah, like lightning. And he's holding it. Yeah.

Okay. And when you're on PCP, we were finding that the taser doesn't work. And when he's holding the dars, he goes, I'm going to kill you, motherfuckers. No, he has a weapon. And we're all thinking, yeah, he probably will. I've seen that on cops where the guys don't respond to the taser. It's not unusual back then. Yeah, and I guess sometimes the one dart didn't go on the way in or something.

Sometimes they're just, like you say, jacked up. But it's funny to, I actually kind of like that part. Because then they start sending more tasers at them. They're like two or three more I go at them. And I'm just like one of these stack up again. Should work. Yeah. That's got to be a little alarming when you tasered the guy and he's just laughing at.

Yeah, it's a little. concerning. But I was on probation, so I jumped in and was, it was like a free fall, because he threw one cop over the hood of the car. So it was a furrow, and a cop hit him in the stomach and knocked the breath out of him. He went down, and I'm like, okay, this is perfect. So I got his right arm and wrist, and I'm thinking, I'll never be able to move this arm. arm behind him, but I had so much adrenaline. It was not a problem. And everybody else was on him too. You should just had the horse there and gotten the horse. Got him behind the horse and get that good horse kick in there to the head. Yeah, Moko would be like, I'll take care of it. I just stomp the hell out of them. I think that's a, I think that's an official police response there. Absolutely. Yeah. When bad guys are bad guys, we got to stop them because other, I've seen

where they hurt people when they go through the city on those races runways. People get hurt and innocent people, they're turning in a thing and the guy drives through them and people get killed. It's a dangerous job. How many years were you on the force? Three, a little over 33.

And then another seven years, as a reserve when I retired, I worked with Moka and the volunteer cavalry. It was fun. It was, It wasn't work. How long was Mocha a part of that journey?

How many years? Oh, the last 10 years. Oh, wow. You know what they should do? I'm looking at the picture of you on the horse. They should just take the horse between his two ears, put a little blue red lights, it goes around like the dragnet light.

That'd be funny to pull over people with a horse. Oh, my goodness, wouldn't it? The people would be confused. If you look at the picture, Moka's ears are sideways and what he was doing and I realized this as when I became familiar with him, he was trying to figure out what stupid thing is she going to ask me this time. What stupid thing are you going to do? He's a darned, I'm in cops.

It's got to be a lot of noises too in LA. There's some parts of the life. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. It's just crazy and there's. Well, the light bar, the sirens, helicopters overhead. I don't know how people do it in New York.

Every time I stay in New York, it's just... That is insanity. That is insanity. It's way worse than L.A. It's not even comparable. It's just 24-7 there's just sirens, and you're in a hotel and you're like, just even the bane and stuff. It's a weird city. But it always has my heart.

The one thing I hate about L.A. is the traffic. That's another nice thing about a horse. You could probably get through traffic a little using, like, the motorcycles with a horse, maybe. I'm a shoulder of the road or whatever. Yeah, yeah. So that was actually the purpose of the book was to honor all founders. And I think it's timely handle in fluid situations. And don't give a thought about risking their life for a total stranger.

They do that without hesitation. Yeah, they put their lives. That's why I added into the title, the word send me, because it resonates with me the Old Testament Bible, Isaiah, the verse 6,8. In the old Bible, apparently the angels and the Lord, you could hear their voices or see them. The Lord talks to Isaiah and says, whom should I send to get the people to tell. terrible news. And Isaiah immediately said, send me without, yeah, without hesitation. To me, the Lord, it's a calling from the moment of birth. You have a calling to touch people's lives. And you're fortunate to interview interesting people.

Yeah, they're all wonderful. They've got great stories. And the Lord had called me to be a protector and rescuer. You were the fifth horseman. According to the Bible. The horsemen of the L.A. Apocalypse, which kind of describes L.A. I think that the Lord sends first responders to help people in their darkest time of need. You're going to stand in the brink, man. Like I said, I watched a lot of cops, the TV show, that is.

It sounded kind of weird. I was the sergeant that was in charge of a home search. for evidence. I was a gang sergeant. You're famous then. Maybe we should... No. But I'm serious. I would get done watching two hours of cops, and I'd be like, what am I depressed about? My life is amazing. These people are so screwed up, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there are, sadly, people like that in the world, and somebody needs to keep them in line, because otherwise the nice people get hurt. And there's a lot of victim out there where people are in drugs and child of trauma. But once you start cross the line and violating other people's rights and stuff, you're going to have a problem with the police. They're going to show up. I still think it would be fun to watch one of those guys who couldn't get Tays, get a head kick from a horse on cops.

Maybe we can script that in somewhere. I pay to see that. I love that show. I used to watch it all the time. My other favorite show was Cheaters. Yeah. So my girlfriend and I, we'd watch cheaters and cops whenever we got depressed or were just feeling kind of glow. Your poor girlfriend.

Yeah, we would watch it after we broke up. She would call me and go, you want to watch cheaters together? We love watching cheaters because it was people get caught cheating on their loved ones. Oh, I've seen it. Yeah, they got busted. And so between those two shows, they would give us enough reality to go, we really have amazing lives. I don't have a police officer holding me to the ground and I'm going to jail for the next 50 years. I'm doing pretty darn good.

And my own rule is don't piss off authority that has the ability to end your life and kill you or shoot you in the butt. Kind of that way. I learned on cops too. Anytime I get pulled over by a police officer, I put my hands up on the wheel. I turn on the interior light. I'm not going to do anything. It's going to get me on cops, the TV show. Unfortunately, in our job, we don't meet people that are in a good mood or having a good day.

And sometimes they just have problems with authority. You can see a lot of people like that. They just have a real authority problem from childhood or something. When I was involved in an officer involved shooting to protect my life because he was trying to kill me. Afterwards, one of the guys said, he has a problem with authority figures. And I'm like, you think he tried to kill me. It might be time for some therapy and a hug, but I'm sure he's going to get the hug in prison. So we see people at their worst moments.

And the hardest for me was rescuing the babies. And the one that broke my heart, and I will never forget, the father drove his four-year-old little girl around waiting for her to die after he had done every form of abuse, every form of abuse. And when I responded to the hospital, and I was handling it as a sergeant because I did, the other guys, they've got families at home. They've got kids, and it's heartbreaking. So I decided to handle it from the get-go. I started talking to the father and I was looking into the face of pure evil. Yeah.

It's a pure evil. Yeah, I've been around a couple people that were pure evil criminals. What do you call them sociopaths or psychosocialopaths? And had that look where I'm the next victim and it's discerning. And it was a, I'm a tall, six-foot-two guy. It was a much taller guy than I was. much bigger, more powerful. And he had a rap sheet a mile along.

But yeah, those people are predators. They have no, there's no conscience. No empathy for others. In fact, they enjoy seeing others in pain. So this little girl, she was a beautiful little girl with long black hair, and she died in the middle of the night. And he did go to jail. But I was talking to the mother who had a baby in her arms and she's no, he wouldn't do that.

And I'm like, not only did he do that to this little girl, he's going to do the same thing to the baby you're holding in your arm. Yeah, yeah. It's a sad world. And like you say, we need people who can stand in the brink and take care of that stuff. A lot of us take for granted how much that has dealt with. We just don't, we don't see a lot of it unless it's on LAT. Every night, I think there's a runaway going there, but let's, let's segue if we can, to the other book series we want to feature the Moka Angel Warrior and book series.

Tell us about this. So this is Moka Latte. He was a real horse deployed. He was my partner. The purpose of the book is to let children know, they take. should think about what they want to do when they grow up. Because the book talks about Mocha and all of his dog friends, the birds, everything. They all get together and try to find abandoned dogs or a missing cat or to rescue them.

And the star with his kind heart, but his courage. And I lost him three years ago. And I had to put the words down on paper. And let me show you some illustrations. They're magic. The kids are radiating. So Mokka stays live through this new book series you're working on. He does go to heaven eventually.

But he does come back and helps protect those in danger. And you anticipate 10-book release of this? Yes, yes. thing you'll be doing with it. And so book one is out now. People can order that. Yes. Amazon Barnes & Noble.

And what age group is that targeted to for kids? I have a great-grandson and I have a nephew with a four-year-old and my great-grandson is a four-year-old. That's the perfect age to start them with the book series because they see. And I've given the book to preschoolers. And the whole group, every story time. Moka, Moka, we want to hear Moka first. Because got a beautiful angel wings on there.

Yes. Angel Warrior, of course, is the name of Moka, Angel Warrior True Trust, Book 1. Yes. And that's a learning lesson for the kids. The bond with other animals or people or whatever. It's a strong bond. Yeah. It's an important bond, too, because I've seen people that aren't raised properly with children,

with children that aren't raised well, with having animals around and taught how to deal with them, sometimes that's where you see animal abuse. You see people that they don't respect lesser beings, if you want to call them that, although I think dogs might be better than us. And most animals are, especially, most of them give unconditional love, right? And they have an interest, they feel our feelings sometimes and know how we're feeling. I'm sure horses are a lot like dogs maybe that way. Absolutely.

With Moka, he was, he bonded with me. And he taught me his favorite snacky, which was the round peppermints with the wrapper. So he taught me I had to carry him in my pockets, in my truck, or he wouldn't leave. He was, and I would turn them out in the front yard. And to get to my truck, I'd have to walk by him. And he would stand in front of me and start sniffing. And okay, where's, where's my kids? You got to pay the toll.

you got to bribe the Bride the horse man There was a little bridge troll I used to have where you had to pay the troll Across the bridge But he was So unique Because he really truly

Communicated with me And bonded with me He trusted me I had horses that didn't Kind of like your experience Yeah Yeah I can't remember

I think I had one kick. It would be one time. I went to my friends. I went to my friends. It wasn't like a ranch, but it was like they had one cow and a couple horses or something. The whole family would buy a cow every year and they'd raise it and then everyone would get stakes. And they didn't do that with the horses, thankfully, because that's not probably a good eating. That would not be good.

I have a tendering problem. But, yeah, I think I had a horse. I got behind him and he kind of gave me a half warning kick. Yeah, you're not supposed to be there. Yeah. But I learned something that if I ever go to prison, I'll know to do the back kick or whatever that. It sounded more funnier in my head, but yeah, so we got it. It's not uncommon to find prisoners that will take care of the dogs or the horses. Yeah.

It's therapy. I think it's good for him. It teaches you empathy. I learned so much from my dogs. I was a horrible person then and still am, but I did grow a little bit. from being you've got a twisted sense of humor i do yes you'd make a great cop yeah i understand a comedian but yeah i could never be a police officer i the pedophiles that i caught would never make it back to the precinct and the the sergeant would always say to me he'd be like chris this is the third pedophile this week that somehow got a screen there was an accidental discharge of your gun in the

car on the way back to the station and there's kind of a pattern that's emerging here I'm like, I'll, I'll clean my gun, Sergeant. I'm sure it's something. No, that's the hardest part of your job. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. You see the horror and some of these people. I see some of the, I watch cops sometimes,

and I'm just like, just pull out your gun and just end this thing, man. Just put everyone out of their misery, including him. Dude. We see things. Oh, yeah. That no human should ever see. And then you don't. it doesn't disappear.

It's post-traumatic stress syndrome, but you carry it with you forever. When's the upcoming releases for Book 2 and nonward to 10? Any anticipation? There will be Mocha and his friends. I had a healer that would nip at the horse's heels, so she has to be in there. I've got a herd, not a herd, but a cubby,

coil and the baby coils that go single file with mom in the front and dad in the back. I want to have some bird friends that can go into the bushes and maybe in the sky. But the children are just radiating and love the storyline. When I gave the book, I sent the book back to a classroom of kids, the kindergartners, and I actually sent you a picture. They're lined up and they're holding up the book, the coloring book. And the kids, said to the teacher, I want to go home now. I want to show Mommy and Daddy the coloring book. So as we go out, give people a final pitch out on how they can get to know you guys better, how they can find you on dot coms, and order the book, et cetera, et cetera.

Okay. Warriors and Heroes with an E.S.com. And then the second one has an in-depth play of the first responders that handled the world Trade Center airplane crashes. And they went back into the building and some of them died. So that has a really cool, I think it's cool anyway, officers. I want people to think about the reality behind the badge, the human side. Yeah, there's a lot you have to live with and see. Go ahead.

Oh, I'm sorry. And then the second website, there was too much information for one website. So the second website is touched by the hand of God. Send me. So it's kind of a big title. Who's going to look for that on the show? No, you're fine. Okay.

I interrupt you. I'm a talker, too. Yeah. We're all good because, you know, we get it in the camera. one way or another but yeah that's the problem with internet audio sometimes there's delays and different things so anyway it's been wonderful you have on the show thank you for coming on and sharing your journey and such a wonderful story of of mocha latte and now i'm gonna have to go make some expressos because you're talking about all show and i'm just like you are i'm so honored

to meet you you we're honored to have you and meet you as well your story is amazing and i love animals i'm a i have two huskies so i have to love animals Oh, I had a hybrid wolf. Oh, did you? I almost did that. I'm glad I didn't. I went to a friend's house and, man, that thing could howl and make your blood curdle. I was down the block and I'm like, is that your hybrid howling like the hound of Baskerville?

He's like, yeah, my neighbors hate me. They are actually protectors also. Yeah. They're wonderful. They're doing their job, Chris. I love wolves. I love wolves. It's just suburbia might not be the right safe place for them. But yeah, I think they're beautiful. I've often, somebody asked me one time, what would you do to retire? And I'm like, I don't have a clue what I would love to do and retire. And then I thought in my office, you used to have these wolf posters everywhere.

And so I said, I'd probably get a wolf preserve somewhere, or maybe a husky slash wolf preserve. So I've had five huskies now. So it's kind of become a thing. But if I live that, long. I mean, you know what? You think wolves are aggressive. They're protectors. But don't you think they're observers? Yeah, they're good watching people. They watch what you're doing. Yeah, they're really smart. They're really smart. I've had a couple friends that raised them and boy, those things get big too. They're not like a dog. They're like a horse. Yeah, Charlie was 160 pounds. Holy crap, yeah. And they're tall. and lanky and yeah and i guess you got to raise them from puppies right yes you should expose them

yeah that way they're kind of maybe some of the wildness and maybe you won't get eaten maybe it's always my goal at night but good luck with your woof woofee preserved that would be beautiful yeah i just i'm i've had enough of people not people to come on the show but most people on Twitter. So I just want to ranch somewhere where I'm off the farm. You're just thinking with dogs all day. People love me. I'm unlovable anyway.

So that's what I need. I need dogs. So, yeah. Well, may angels surround and protect you? I kind of figure those, my angels are my dogs. They are. They always watch out. They know when you're stressed.

They know when you're sad. They know when your problems. They comfort you. Yeah. They'll come to me. I'll be down the other part of the house or outside or something, and you'll start feeling bad, and you're just like, how did you know? They know. Thank you, Patricia, for coming the show. We really appreciate it.

Thanks for having me, Chris. Thank you. And thanks for us for tuning in. Order up for book, folks, wherever fine books are sold. Touched by the hand of God in the city of angels. Send me in the city. City of angels. That wraps on.

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