The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Trends Due to Climate Change by Frederic Buse

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

Trends Due to Climate Change by Frederic Buse https://www.amazon.com/Trends-Climate-Change-Frederic-Buse/dp/1966088051 Fredericbuse.com This book is a photograph narrative of fifty years of the ...anticipation of the annual cycle of the emergence and waning of the flora-fauna (phenology) in a suburban backyard setting, illustrating the effects of environmental and climate change. The intention of the book is to demonstrate this anticipation of the annual activity of life, hopefully to plant an acquisitive seed in the reader to follow suit for a better appreciation and enjoyment of the anticipation of their environment.

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Starting point is 00:01:33 Very amazing young man on the show, we're talking about his latest book that came out, April 4th, 2025 called Trends Due to Climate Change by Frederick Buse. We're going to get into it with him and find out all the data and how you can improve your life with the quality knowledge that he has. He was raised on Long Island, New York, during World War II, learning about victory gardens, blackouts, scrap metal drives, and scouting. He graduated from New York State Maritime College as a marine engineer in 1958, went to work for Ingersoll Rand Company in Phillipsburg, New Jersey. He's reported to chief engineer of a new commercial pump division in Allentown, Pennsylvania. It sounds like a song from, this sounds like songs from Billy Joel and the boss. One of the most challenging projects was the dozens of pumps to pump coal slurry 1,000 miles using water from the Colorado River. It would have almost drained the river.
Starting point is 00:02:31 However, Railroad, Emmett Demand, won the contract. You represented the United States in re-hire in writing the International Pump Standards for ISO for 25 years. and he retired from Ingersoll Rand after 42 years. He's traveled to 28 countries, Egypt, Central America, et cetera. And then he was a caregiver for his wife who had Alzheimer's for 10 years and took care of her and wrote a book called A Caregiver's Tips. After his wife passed, he became a master gardener for Penn State. In 2014, he wrote a book on the phonology of suburban backyard. The draft was 1100 pages, and no publisher would take it.
Starting point is 00:03:10 He whittled down to 568 and it was published as in Tisput. in 2019 and were published and updated and retail as Trends in 2025. Welcome the show. How are you, sir? Fine, thank you. So give us a dot-coms, any websites you want people to check you out on? Yes, I have frederickbuse, one-word.com. So give us 30,000 over you.
Starting point is 00:03:34 What's inside your book? Well, the book, the trends, tells you and shows you. what's happening to the climate, what's happening to the birds, the flora, over 30 years of observation. And so my quest is to plant the seed into the reader, hoping they do the same type of thing to realize what's happening with climate change. And does your work as a master gardener? Does that have an effect on your experience and what you've seen over these years? Yes, it has. They taught me a lot about flowers and what to do with them.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And so that helped very much my observations. Hmm. So what do people need to know about this stuff? First of all, I started 1986 to write a diary of what's happening, not just the birds, but the floor infundit, for my own curiosity about what's happening. then about in the 90s the public study here about climate change and so I said well there might be something to this I wasn't quite convinced but I had data going back 20 years already of what was happening to the temperature and so as an engineer I said well let's plot this out and see what's happening
Starting point is 00:05:03 and sure sure enough I found by putting a trend line on a temperature of what was happening that almost every month the temperature has increased from two to six degrees over 20 years. So we're getting warm. July being the first one with six degrees. Yeah. Except December is going the other way. It's going down.
Starting point is 00:05:32 What a crazy thing that is. But that's what's happening. Is there a reason why that's happening? Well, that I would like to know, but it sure is having an effect on the amount of snow weekend by December. And so I look at the rain, I look at the snow, and I look at temperature, and see if I can put them all together to see what's happening in the environment relative to the weather. So in March, it's really... really shows up because we used to have heavy snowstorms back in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Now, 30 years later, we have none. So we've gone from maybe 20 or 30 inches to none. Wow. Yeah, that's a big wow. Yeah. Yeah, I remember when I was young, West, you know, we, we spent our teens here in Utah, and we would, you know, the snowdrifts would be huge. We would be able to, we would have, the snowdress in the front yard would be so deep.
Starting point is 00:06:42 We had able to build tunnels through the snow. Yeah. And it would be sometimes like four feet and stuff. It would be crazy. And I remember as Boy Scouts, we would do the same. We would, as Boy Scouts, we would go up in the canyons during the, you know, after it snowed to camp and do, you know, Boy Scout stuff. And the picnic tables that were up there, you know, they'd have those wood pickup. pickup picnic tables the snow would be like six inches to a foot over that table and that would be
Starting point is 00:07:14 like the flat plane for us there and so as for fun we would dig under one end of the table out through the other and you could like you could crawl and basically under and through the table and up the other way it was you know stuff we did for fun but we would dig these tunnels and I you know I've the last five years of spending more time in Utah and seeing The snow stuff here, we have nothing close to that. Yeah. Really rare, especially down in the valleys and stuff. So you're kind of like, well, something's changed, you know, for 20 years I've lived in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And Lake Mead has just grown, you know, smaller and smaller and smaller. And so what else did your trends lines find? What do you see there? There's the annual life of the flora and the fauna in the suburban backyard. That's also interesting. We have what we call the canopy, and that's when the trees develop all their leaves in the spring. It's a regular canopy, has shade. But that has opened up two weeks earlier now.
Starting point is 00:08:26 All right? And in the fall, when the leaves turn color and drop, that's happening two weeks later. So we have four weeks. increase in the agiculture. I've noticed that the last couple years that summer seems to grind forever and it also seems to come a little bit early.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yep. But yeah, like I think last year it was like still summer in September and it was still raging hot. We were just like, serious? Like, I can remember years ago at the end of August,
Starting point is 00:09:02 that was the end of the tomato season. Yeah. Now I'm picking tomatoes. in October. Yeah, it's still going. It's kind of nice, but I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:09:12 that everyone's, you know, it's helping everyone get along. Yeah. And so, um, the flora in the spring
Starting point is 00:09:21 is coming out two weeks earlier. Mm-hmm. And you remember crickets. We're sure. And the crickets are cricketing two weeks later now.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Oh, wow. Wow. So what effect do you think that's having on the rest of the world and everything else that we experience and what we do? Well, for the rest of the world, we've heard over and over again how the ocean is getting warmer. So the lobsters are moving up from where they normally are in Maine and moving up higher to get colder. The sharks are moving up north now in the summer. the the maple syrup industry has changed also account of the climate change they have two weeks
Starting point is 00:10:11 less of getting the syrup oh well we can't have that because you got to have pancakes right yeah have to have pancakes right on yeah pancakes that's a that's a part of the food chain food pyramid pancakes so it's having also a big effect on the migration of the birds oh yeah oh yeah The migration of birds in where I am begins in April. That's when it really happens. And in the past 20 years or so, I have tripled the number of migrating species. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I have lost species because the birds are not coming south in the winter because it's warm. They don't have to. Likewise, I'm gaining species, which I hadn't before. The problem is with this increase, the insects are coming out earlier and dying off. So when the birds come here for migration and the feeding stop, there's no food. Yeah. Yeah. So, and the birds that are here for the summer, they're struggling to find food for the young.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Mm-hmm. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's kind of interesting what's going on. How does it, how do you think it impacts this as humans? That as a subject within itself, yes. I, as I said, I collect all this data on, Flora and Fonda. If I had to acknowledge, it would have been very interesting to see what's happening to the humans
Starting point is 00:11:48 as far as births is concerned, you know, and that's concerned. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, I mean, imagine it plays some different parts. I mean, just in kind of what we're used to maybe. as human beings and, you know, what's going on in an environment, how we feel and stuff like that, I imagine it's having some sort of impact. I would imagine so, yes, but I don't care for my finger on that one.
Starting point is 00:12:16 However, where you are, okay, you're Las Vegas, right? Las Vegas and Utah. Yeah. And that was all desert, about 100 years ago. Still is. Except in Las Vegas. Yeah. That's all man-made environment.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Oh, yeah. It would have been very interesting if someone had studied the way I did to see how the climate change is affecting where you live. Oh, I'm sure it is. Yeah, I know. It would be very interesting because you're all man-made environment. Yeah, we like making man-made everything. That's kind of how we roll, especially in Vegas. But, you know, there's that.
Starting point is 00:12:58 What do you hope people get from your book? What do you hope they come away with when they read it? Well, I hope that they get realization of climate change is going to infect their environment and to be able to pass it on to the children. Okay, that's the main thing. But I wrote the book month by month and week by week in each month. So a person can just put the book on their comments. table and read, okay, what's supposed to be happening this week and see if it is happening.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Well, that's good to have, because we know what's going on from week to week. When was the time, when did you first notice that climate change was the thing? I mean, we've all kind of seen the craziness of what's been happening in the world. When did you notice that it was finally become the thing? 1990s. 1990s. snow. Because before that is when we had like all the snow and such and then all of a sudden I look and say, wow, it's, it really has a big change. I observe other phenomena which I don't quite
Starting point is 00:14:15 understand as far as snow is concerned. We can go along and just have a normal snow, let's say, of nine inches. And then next year we get a hard one. And I get 30, inches of snow or maybe almost 40 inches of snow and I call that a spike the next year after that there's nothing zero and I've seen this occur over and over again these spikes go very high and the next year is zero hmm so why why sometimes there's no spikes and it goes to zero that's mystery that that is a mystery yes but it's there yeah so what can we learn from that mystery i mean we need to know more right or something yeah yep well it it would tell you that you might think everything is going along nice and smoothly and bingo watch out it just happens
Starting point is 00:15:20 but even with the reset you feel that uh something has definitely changed permanently in our environment last 50 years. Is that correct? Yes, that is correct. Yeah. Now, the thing is, when I first did this and plotted it, it looked like the silhouette of the Rocky Mountains, right? It went up and down, up a town. I said, well, how can I rationalize what's happening? So fortunately, on a computer, I just had a hit trend line,
Starting point is 00:15:50 and lo and behold, I got a nice straight line. and sometimes it went up sometimes it's up to save level and sometimes it went down and so this trend line is what I use as a base on everything as far as flowers
Starting point is 00:16:06 when they bloom when they don't bloom and with the with the blooming of the flowers I find that they basically are blooming early by two weeks but
Starting point is 00:16:21 if they start off blooming two weeks later above my trend line all of the perennials for that year seem to be blooming two weeks later or earlier what starts in the spring seems to
Starting point is 00:16:36 follow throughout well starts in the spring falls throughout and off you go you know looking over this data you want people to learn from it and stuff tell us about tell us about
Starting point is 00:16:52 what you see for the future where do you see us going and what do you see happening with the future you know how far it's the future right now a lot of the trend lines show we're going to have warmer
Starting point is 00:17:10 warmer weather okay and if that's because I'm looking at 20 or 30 years but if I look just that five years there's a reversal in the trend
Starting point is 00:17:26 and I don't quite understand that yet but to answer your question what's in the future do you want a planting zone is no okay a planting zone we have
Starting point is 00:17:43 there's about 13 of them in the United States and each state has a different planting zone or more the numbers go from basically down to 13, which is the southern part of the country. Pennsylvania, our planting zone is five or six. What does that mean? That means the plants that you put in will survive the winter. And so depending on what zone you are, you plant different perennials or shrubs or trees that will survive the winter.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And so that the planting zone is changing. So from Pennsylvania, we're going from five into six. So if you're on a borderline now and you're building a new home and you're putting in trees, you should almost look and plant trees for the next zone. Take into account 30 years from now. Oh, wow. And where you live, your state has at least four zones. and the zones where you have temperatures which are real cold are not cold anymore so the water the snow is not there that you had before
Starting point is 00:19:01 and so the water that you depended on in the summer might not be there that the planting zones are changing and you're talking in your book about the flora what is the flora that's all the flowers okay all right there's of sure food. It's the shrubs, the perennials, that's the flora. Now, you also talk in your book
Starting point is 00:19:28 about what you call the cyclic, cyclic year, start? What's that? The cyclic year. The cyclic year is the phenomenon
Starting point is 00:19:37 of the life of the flora and fauna. It's outside life. And I start my year in March, because that's when it's the awakening
Starting point is 00:19:47 of life outside is in March. So my book starts in March. Okay. And to make things simple, instead of having 54 years, I make 48 weeks, I make 48 weeks, they'll go crazy here. I have 48 weeks instead of the 54. It makes it easier to plot things out. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Pretty interesting. So with this, I know you've written some other books. Do you want to get a plug in for those as well? Sure. I have the book on caregivers tips. That's on Alzheimer's. I spent nine years as a caregiver for my wife. And the book is written from a man's standpoint of caregiving.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And what I did is I put in 134 different tips for caregivers. It's a very practical book because a lot of people have no idea when this awful disease is hits a member of the family and it can be very devastating in all kinds of ways so that's what caregivers is about the other book i said lifestyle of backyard birds and a change due to climate change what's happening to this lifestyle so where trends book takes flora and fond it into account this is just for bird bird lovers and so
Starting point is 00:21:19 I've been here 55 years and I have observed 79 different species flying over the house from one way or another oh wow and that's quite a bit
Starting point is 00:21:30 and so I tell the tales of the observation of each species that I can what I have data for so it's not just a regular bird book you know the bird looks nice and this is the saw
Starting point is 00:21:43 and this tells you what the birds do. Mm-hmm. Yeah. For instance, the Blue Jays. A lot of people say the Blue Jays are bad, but they're quite a character. Okay. And they're the policeman.
Starting point is 00:22:03 So if a hawk lands in the backyard, they start to yell because a hawk is there. Yeah. And when they yell, then other birds, come of the species and pretty soon I have a symphony going on of all kinds
Starting point is 00:22:19 of species chasing a hawk away okay that's one thing they do I put out whole peanuts on my feeder which was raised up in the air about five feet and I put some
Starting point is 00:22:35 peanuts down on the ground for the squirrels so the blue jade comes along and they take the ones on the ground first and then they take the one which are up high, which the squirrels can't get at. The other thing they do is that if the young birds, the small birds are at the feeder,
Starting point is 00:22:53 they'll get up in a branch and they'll imitate a hawk, yelling like a hawk, and that scares all little birds. And so then they come down, and they take the food. Ah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And so are you, are you, Do you do birdwatching professionally? Do you like that? I don't do it professionally, but I do do bird watching for Cornell University. Okay. And I've been doing that since 1986. And if a person wants to start this type of thing, I would encourage them to join the Citizens Watch from Cornell University,
Starting point is 00:23:33 which is now worldwide. And so what you do is you observe the birds from November to April and send your observations into Cordell and at the end of the year they give you a synopsis of all different areas of the country of what's happening to the species. Well, that's good to know. That's good to know.
Starting point is 00:23:56 You know, our environment is important to us. Why do you think that, you know, should we be active in doing things to lower climate change and the effects that maybe we have on the environment as human species? Yes, we should. The average person should change to planting native trees and native flowers.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I mean, they can buy all kinds of pretty flowers, but that does not necessarily say that the bees are going to come to them. Yeah. Okay. And so with the change of environment happening, they should get native trees of what's going to be happening. So the new type of birds and insects can enjoy that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Definitely want to, you know, we, as our environment goes, we go as human beings. So it's probably important for us to start addressing it. You know, it used to be you could make a lot of denial about climate change.
Starting point is 00:24:55 But now when you see like, you know, hurricanes coming in California for the first time ever, you say the huge fires, you know, you see a lot of insurance companies pulling out of Florida and California and Texas because of the natural disasters that, you know, go. on there all the time now and they just seem to be getting worse and worse you know the big fire in california was pretty crazy wiped out the palisades that was beyond insane to see and uh it just seems to get crazier um and now we're talking about rising tides and waters do you do you see that where maybe the water's going to rise up uh and maybe cities are going to flood with what's things which you don't hear much about, but the tilt of the earth is changing, and that's affecting a lot. That, yeah, that has had a huge, huge effect. And some people say, well, how's that happening?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Well, the melting of the ice changes the weight on the surface, you know, now going to water. Some people say, well, it was a big dams in China might be affecting. the weight of the earth. But there is a change happening. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's hard to deny it with what's going on. What's some other advice you give to people?
Starting point is 00:26:20 I mean, plant trees that are maybe native, the ones that the bees like, there was a time there where the bees seemed to be struggling to stay around, and so they were dying off. Yeah, they're going to have bees to pollinate everything, and of course, a lot of our sugar comes from honey. What other piece of advice?
Starting point is 00:26:38 to see you people. Well, the controversy about letting your lawns go fallow. All right? What does that mean? That means you just let it go wild. You don't cut the lawn. Okay. You might want to keep on cutting the front lawn,
Starting point is 00:26:54 but if you have a huge back lawn, you just let it go. And so what happens is that now you have changed the environment for birds and insects. okay so now the birds have additional nesting areas you will get different types of birds by having that happen you get different insects otherwise I had an area next to me
Starting point is 00:27:20 go fallow and what happens is the lightning bugs now come up differently more lightning bugs okay so oddly enough they complain about the insects might be due to to all the nice tractors that people are cutting their lawn with is compacting the soil and preventing the insects from
Starting point is 00:27:45 emerging out of the soil. Mm-hmm. The, yeah, you know, in Vegas, we do a thing where we do zero-escaping. You know, they paid a bunch of people to tear up their lawns back of the day, and they turned out to let people install new lawns.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah. And they have zero-escaping, and I really love it, because I don't ever have to move the lawn. But it's basically you just put down rock and and then you have these drip tubes the drip drip watering system that water small plants they're designed to live in the desert yeah you know they give you some they give some beauty um and that's that seems to work really well for Las Vegas and stuff yeah okay well I know in England that they have this fallow way of doing things now really some people
Starting point is 00:28:32 some people object because they say well you might encourage more ticks and other insects you know, but it's all part of nature. Yeah. The, you know, I, I often see people, like, I'm always amazed. In Vegas, everything's very conservative on water. They actually have water police that go out, and if you're a business or you are running water down the street from your sprinklers over sprinklering, overwatering, they get after you and confine you.
Starting point is 00:29:02 But in California and Utah, man, they just, I've seen water just, run down the down the sidewalk like a freaking river and I'm just and I'll go look at the sprinkler systems and I'm like you know you have this water because we
Starting point is 00:29:20 do conservation in Vegas because you get us getting our water from us mostly and yeah maybe you guys should knock that off and then you know you see full beautiful lawn yards in California it's kind of funny same thing in Utah
Starting point is 00:29:36 You know, they're front, back, full yards. And I tell people there, I'm like, you guys should try zero escaping because the money is saved just in mowing. Yeah, yeah, okay. A little lot of water is crazy. Well, back on that subject, when we have the cold winter, but not real cold, but the ground is frozen. But it's don't get snow. the water just runs off on a frozen ground now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And that causes flooding in the spring. Yeah. So it's the same type of thing. And so another interesting thing in France, oh, I don't know, maybe it was 10 years ago. They did a study about cell phone waves on birds. Oh, really? Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And they think there's a, that this that was probably millions of cell phone waves you know is affecting the birds now obviously you're not going to cut down on cell phone waves you know but but that makes sense in a way it's almost like the canary in a coal mine you know yeah canary in a coal mine yeah great song by the police yeah well that's and all the the amount of CO2 we have in the air is this is killing off the birds same type of thing. Yeah. Well, any final thoughts as we go out?
Starting point is 00:31:12 Anything you want to pitch out to people? Any messages you want to share with them before we go? Well, I have another book coming out in September. It's called Try and Find Us. It's about my wife and I, nine years living country as a naive young couple and all the episodes that we had living in a country. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:31:36 It was a wonderful experience. I almost got killed about three times. It was wonderful experience. How did you almost get killed? Well, in the middle of the winter, my neighbor was getting oil delivered to his house. Oh, wow. All right. And this is out in the country now, and his driveway was built up on gravel, and it was swamp on each side of it.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Okay. So you picture this oil truck full with oil going up this driveway with that was frozen and a swamp on each side and all of a sudden the oil truck slips off the side. Oh, no. And now how do you remove this oil truck? So the neighbors and I went out there and we got an old farm tractor and checked. and chains and I crawled underneath
Starting point is 00:32:38 and put this chain with a forged hook around the axle I said okay pull well the chain started to get tighter and tighter
Starting point is 00:32:52 and all of a sudden the chain started to move further and bingo the forged hooks straightened out like an arrow and went right by my head. Whoa! You stayed under there?
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, yeah, I was foolish enough. I was giving them guidance to pull. That sounds like a dangerous place to be, my friend. Very dangerous place, yes. Just for some of well. So the book will be all the adventures and stuff that you guys have with your wife before she fell ill. That sounds like a beautiful story for something you can do.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I know being a caretaker is hard of someone you love, and you wrote the book fully on that as well. People should check out. Now, if the patient doesn't recognize you from the front, you walk behind him, they might recognize your voice. Really? Yeah. Huh. That's kind of interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And you never take a person with Alzheimer's on a airplane. or an airport i had a very bad bad experience by by not knowing what to do there like my wife wanted to get off the plane in the middle of the sky you know oh all right it goes on and on and the most most mysterious thing is um ever here is sundowning uh sun downing i believe so yes yeah that's when the the patients at when the sun sets the patient starts to to talk to mysterious people. Oh. And even though I'm sitting next to her, I'm not there.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Mm-hmm. And she started to talk about subjects which I think she'd do nothing about. Hmm. Politics or other things. And she just kept on talking. This goes on for a half hour or so, and you don't dare interrupt it. Then after a couple hours, it dissipates. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:59 It's a real spooky thing. Very spooky. Yeah, yeah. So as we go out, give people a final pitch out to order up your books and get to know you better online and what dot coms they should do that at. Yeah, yeah. My publisher did a very nice job at the website, yeah. What's the dot com and tell people where they can order up your book?
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yeah, they can order a book on Amazon, yes. And then they can also find you at your website at frederickbuse.com Correct, yep. Well, thank you very much, Frederick, for being on the show. We really appreciate it. Oh, thank you for your invite.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yes. Thank you. And thanks, thanks for us for tuning in. Order of the book where refined books are sold. It's called Trends Due to Climate Change out April 4th, 2025 by Frederick Buse.
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Starting point is 00:36:03 Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you guys next time. And that should have us out. Fun is...

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