The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Tune Your Mind: Finding Follow-Through and Fulfillment in the Dawn of Distraction and Disruption by Cj Ledy

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Tune Your Mind: Finding Follow-Through and Fulfillment in the Dawn of Distraction and Disruption by Cj Ledy https://amzn.to/3XM1MsP Cjledy.com In this fresh and actionable mindset book for goal attainment, leading mindset expert CJ Ledy shares a three-step, scientifically proven solution for focus, follow-through, and fulfillment. "Our mind can be our greatest ally, or our fiercest opponent--this book will ensure you're playing for the same team." --Alexandra Cole, Human Design Coach and author of The Purpose Playbook Leading mindset coach CJ Ledy is a multi-instrument musician who integrates music in his coaching, podcasts, and video series. His proven three-step process helps dreamers and doers soundcheck their mental instrument to bring great ideas to fruition. There's never been an easier or more engaging way to adapt to distraction and disruption and improve concentration, productivity, and focus. Inside Tune Your Mind, discover how to: adapt to a disrupted career path or life plan, orient big-picture goals with regular routines and habits, create follow-through despite distraction, align your identity, mindset, and state of mind. Tune Your Mind creates a perfect harmony between the accessibility of Atomic Habits and the practicality of The Productivity Project. Whether you're developing habits for success in business or in your personal day-to-day life, optimal time management and productivity is within your grasp. Just as instruments need regular recalibration to produce beautiful sound, all you need to enjoy a productive headspace is to simply tune your mind. Even in the hands of a legendary guitarist, an untuned guitar sounds terrible. Your mind is your most valuable instrument . . . so how does your instrument sound? Tune Your Mind is your chance to chase inspiration and ensure follow-through--it all begins with the instrument between your ears. "An innovative deep-dive way to look at the power of mindset. CJ Ledy is able to match powerful content with real and impactful stories that help the reader make changes that will help them be happier, healthier, and more productive. Tune Your Mind is played in the key of life." --Joe Schmit, speaker, author of Silent Impact and The Impact Blueprint, and eighteen-time Emmy Award-winning television broadcasterAbout the author CJ Ledy is a mindset coach, keynote speaker, podcast host, and real estate entrepreneur with a sales volume of over 100M. Coaching for over a decade, he works with Fortune 100 companies, professionals, artists, musicians, athletes and more. Ledy is a multi-instrument musician, private pilot, and has traveled to over thirty different countries to study global approaches to mental well-being. CJ Ledy is a certified executive and career coach and helps professionals strategize, set goals, achieve success, and establish fulfilling lives.

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Welcome to the show. As always, we've been providing you the most amazing authors and minds on The Chris Foss Show for the last 16 years and over 2,000 episodes. Refer to the show to your family, friends, and relatives, or else. No, I don't know what the hell we're going to do or else. Anyway, guys, go to goodreads.com, 4chesschrissfoss, linkedin.com, 4chesschrissfoss. Chris Foss won the TikTokity and all those crazy places on the internet today we have a young man on the show with his latest book that he has out and some of the other words we're going to be talking about that he does to help you be better at what you do CJ Leidy is on the

show with us today his new book that was out January 9 9 2024 is called tune your mind finding follow-through and fulfillment in the dawn of distraction and disruption boy we really need that these days huh the way we're living our lives and doing our things we're a real mess like we could use all the help we could get cj is a coach keynote speaker author and podcaster he is also a real estate entrepreneur with sales and volume of 100 million dollars plus coaching over a decade he has worked with fortune 100 companies artists musicians professional athletes and countless individuals he's currently traveling north america in his toy hauler rv he has hobbies of being a private pilot a real estate investor guitarist snow skier and

struggling surfer i'm not sure what the struggling surfer means but we'll find out cj welcome to the show thank you chris appreciate you for having me there you go do we need to get a see a struggling surfer coach on the show for you is that i think we might i think we might that i've hung it up actually as of a month ago i got rid of my surf surfboard because I'm in Utah now. I was in California for about five years and then I bought an RV and been traveling for two and stopped here in Utah where we just bought an RV park that we're doing kind of a health and wellness spin at here. Oh, there you go. I'm hanging up the surfboard for now. Which part of Utah? It's about an hour south of Salt Lake. It's a town called Nephi.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Nephi. Yeah, yeah. I've been past there a million times between Salt Lake and Las Vegas. So give us your dot coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs to get to know you better or do you want them to check you out? Yeah, you can find me at

cjledy.com cjledy.com and you can also find me on my podcast, Mindset is Art. I've got my book, Tune Your Mind. Chris already mentioned finding fall through and fulfillment. That's a little blurry. The Dawn of Distraction and Disruption. I'm sure we'll tag it in the show notes, but that's, you can find that on Amazon. You can find my audio book as well on Amazon, which was just released about a week ago, which is exciting too. Yeah. And I do speeches and the like. I've got a couple coming up. I'm speaking at an event in a week in Minnesota. It's a music festival for mental health awareness and suicide prevention. So I've got a keynote that I'm speaking at there and a couple other things,

but those are the highlights and where to find me. There you go. So give us a 30,000 overview. What's inside your book? It's called Tune Your Mind, Finding Follow-Through and Fulfillment in the Dawn of Distraction and Disruption. So it's really about dealing with what we've got going on today. Like you said in your introduction, it's something that everybody can use. I think we're all inundated with distractions and the way that the world is moving and the rate at which things are changing economically and the way that we do business and all the things. There's many disruptions as well.

So being in tune mentally is a way to adapt to the changes that come about and really to embrace this new era that we are thrown into. There's lots of potential, lots of opportunities there. So my book really talks about a three-step process for how to orient your thoughts around the things that are important to you, whether that's your career or your health or relationships, you choose one specific aspect. And then there's a mindset sound check that figures out how are you currently thinking about that? So it's kind of like tuning a guitar. First, you figure out what pieces are out of tune. Then I give you a couple of specific tools based on the areas that you might be a little bit weak

in and teach you how to tune your mind. There you go. Tune your mind because there is a lot of noise and distraction, especially with social media and our phones and yada, yada, yada. And the news and the sky is falling, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, all that sort of stuff. And I like how you use the analogy, you're a guitarist, I think, right? We talked about in your bio. I like how you use the analogy of the guitar. You say even in the hands of a legendary guitarist, an untuned guitar sounds terrible. What if I know a lot of people

on social media and facebook that have just plain broken guitars is that fixable or we're stupid unfortunately all through common stupid forever yeah yeah you know everybody's everybody comes with a different different guitar in their hands or their head. But, you know, I think that everybody, even people who maybe don't have the best processor from the beginning, as long as you can direct it wisely and intelligently, I think that, you know, it's not how good your guitar is. It's how good you are at playing it at the end of the day. There you go.

Slowly my guitar weeps. There you go. I'm not sure what that means but yeah the and you're right if if i i'll watch i'll watch like there's one thing i i hate for some reason you tell when a piano's out of tune i don't know why i have a weird thing about it but i'll be watching people on tiktok or some other place and they'll be playing piano and and you know doing whatever their lives and stuff and i'll be just piano and doing whatever, their lives and stuff, and I'll be just sitting there just going, oh my God, that thing's so freaking out of tune,

I just want to throw myself. You got a good ear. Yeah, I guess, I don't know, but it seems to work, but I'll hear it, and it'll drive me nuts, because it used to drive me nuts on my own piano, where if a couple keys fell out, I'd have to call the guy and be like, you got to come over and fix this yeah it's not that far off chris it's off i

can tell and it's not like i'm a great pianist i just i don't know i grew up listening to piano for my grandmother and i just know tuning your mind you also espouse that your mind is your most valuable instrument although for some i'm wondering about on the internet. So how does your instrument sound, and how do we keep it tuned? What are some concepts you talk about in the book on how to tune this darn thing, and how do we keep it from getting out of tune, I guess?

Yeah, so like I mentioned, you can choose an important aspect of your life. So let's take your career, for instance. So within the tuning section, like I said, it's three parts. The first, you figure out if you're in tune or out of tune. Then the second part, we figure out how to tune it. So let's say you take your career. There's five different strings that I refer to in the mind.

One is passion. So it comes from understanding the purpose and the meaning behind what you do. So essentially, you go through and you ask yourself those questions. Why is this important? Really define and refine your sense of purpose, which helps to tune that string in your mind. Then the next string is clarity. So it's understanding where you're going. So you have a clear long-term destination and you know the strategy to get there.

And then the third one is momentum. So it's understanding how much action and energy you need to be putting in to be successful in your career. Is that 40 hours a week? Is it 50? What type of energy levels do you need to show up with? So it helps you with a few tools if you're falling short there too. And then the fourth piece is a sense of subconscious ease. So that's if your limiting beliefs are, well, it's really a battle between your empowering beliefs and your limiting beliefs. So do you have more beliefs that build you up and push you in the right direction? Or subconsciously, are you held back by fears and ideas that kind of slow you down?

And then the fifth and final string is a sense of necessity. So it's been proven many times that somebody who has a deep dying belief that what they're doing is necessary, it has to happen versus something that you'd like to do. Those are the people who actually get things done. So it's about building a sense of necessity as well. So you go through, and I have a bunch of different tools for each of those different aspects. And by the end, if you can really be at a, I do a scale, a one to 10 scale, and I break it down much more nuanced. But essentially, if you're an eight or higher in all five of those categories, then you are in tune and your mind is really helping you versus standing in your way from your

career, your health, whatever is important to you. There you go. And having that sort of focus really helps. Talk to us a little bit about your upbringing, how you were raised, what influenced you, what got you into owning your own businesses, real estate, etc., etc., and all that stuff. Yeah. So I grew up in a household of entrepreneurs. My grandparents started a manufacturing business out of their garage 65 years ago or something. And my dad ended up taking that over, building it into a few

different branches of medical manufacturing and a few other things. And our families always participated in helping out with the business. And then my mom's side, I come from a long list of entrepreneurs too, many generations back, but a lot of real estate as of late from my mom's side. My grandma's one of the top real estate agents. She's in her 80s now and she's still outperforming most people in their 30s and 40s. She's got a lot of horsepower. So I kind of learned the ropes from all of them. And I always knew that I wanted to be on the investment side versus just a salesperson. Not that there's anything wrong with either direction, but I wanted

long-term wealth creation to the point where I don't believe it really ever becomes truly passive, but get to a point where you can truly scale. You kind of got to be on the ownership side. I transferred, I moved to California about seven years ago and I joined a commercial real estate brokerage and I've been selling RV parks, mobile home parks, and self-storage, a little bit of a few other asset classes, but those are our main bread and butter. And I bought a park up in Northern California, an RV park, about two and a half years ago that we redeveloped. And then just as of a week and a half, two weeks ago, I bought a park here in Utah that has about 60 spaces.

And we're going to build it out into a whole health and wellness spin. So we're adding a gym and a sauna and a cold plunge. We're going to do a sensory deprivation tank. And we're going to hopefully eventually host some retreats and stuff like that here too. RV parks live in the high life. There's a lot of people doing the RV, what do they call it? Van life? Yeah, like van life sort of thing. Yeah. Are people still doing that, I guess? It comes and goes and surges, but it's pretty

consistent that there's a lot of, especially retired people that love to live in RVs and snowbird from wherever they're at. But there's a huge millennial wave that's coming through the rv space as well covid in particular was a massive spike for rv there was a ton of people because you couldn't travel any other way so a bunch of people bought rvs it was record rv rv sales you know they they just couldn't sell them fast enough and just now you got a lot of a lot of people on the road with these things and the parks are busy parks are full across the nation so wow there you go we've had a lot of people on this show that are doing mobile home park investment and building building

those out and and buying them up and then renovating them and stuff like what you're talking about doing with rv i didn't know they were doing that with RVs now, but I mean, that makes sense, right? Yeah. I was actually going to buy one of those Mercedes Land Rover. Yeah, Sprinter van deals. Sprinter van, that's it. Yeah, yeah. And I was going to buy one because we were doing a lot of shows before COVID

where we were doing CS and all the other shows. We still do shows and tour, but we don't do it like we used to. We were going to basically turn the podcast into part of the van so that we could tour around and just open the van and have a pull-out podcast thing. That's fun. We used the CEOs and stuff. And COVID killed it.

And then I think we saw the prices of the vans and stuff, and it was like they killed all the events that we would normally go to. And so it's probably a good thing. I don't know. Maybe that didn't work out. But the main idea behind it was being able to take my dogs on trips with me instead of having to kennel them and, you know, pay extra costs for the kenneling and then extra costs for the hotels

and then flying, you know, red eyes everywhere at the last fucking second and, you know, all that stuff. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. So you translated a lot of what you've espoused in the book and developed throughout your life with real estate and growing up seeing the entrepreneur influence of your family, correct? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And to rewind a little bit too, where I got interested in the whole mindset and personal development space, that came out of left field for me. I grew up with a lot of social anxiety and I really didn't even realize how impactful it was in my

life. But when I was 18 years old, I was hypnotized. And one of those stage hypnotist guys where they make people dance like a chicken on the stage. And I didn't go up there. I wasn't going to embarrass myself in front of all those people with my social anxieties. But afterwards, he said, hey, everybody in the crowd, I'm going to hypnotize you if you want to stick around. So next thing I know, I was in this deep trance. And I basically was asleep with my head in my lap. I'd never meditated before anything like that. And when I came out of it, one of the things he said, he said, you can focus on one of three things, stop smoking, lose weight, or stop the fear of what others think of you. And, you know, I was skinny. It wasn't interested in cigarettes. So I defaulted to,

you know, not worrying so much about people think about me. And when I came out of it, everything changed for me. He asked right off the bat, as soon as we walked out, he said, hey, how long do you guys think that that lasted? In an auditorium of about 400 people with my social anxieties, I was the first person I screamed out the top of my lungs, five minutes. And it shocked me. It was not a normal reaction for me, and I was like, whoa, and everybody looked and stared at me, and usually I would have gotten so much anxiety and stress going through my body, and I felt nothing. I was just completely relaxed, and the guy pointed to me, Zach, I was in a very deep state of trance, and I was like, what just happened? And literally the next five, six days were, it was something out of a movie.

I had never experienced that level of just peace of mind, of clarity on what I wanted to do and how I wanted to show up. I was better in sports. I had a presentation in class. Like I just felt like anything was possible. I had so, I didn't realize how many fears and how many ideas had been slowing me down and it was like all of those just moved out of the way and I just showed up naturally it wasn't that I was like super confident it was just like I was just at peace I wasn't worried about doing something

wrong and ever since then I've just been obsessed with this idea that you know our subconscious mind and these ideas and beliefs that are deeply rooted and we don't even realize are there oftentimes are completely scripting our lives, how we feel about the things we do, how successfully we do the things that we do. And once I had that wake-up call, I've just been on a mission for the last 15 years of traveling to different countries to study different cultural approaches to mental health and wellbeing, read countless books on personal development, obviously wrote my own, working with people. Mostly my coaching got started out of just passion and interest in

how people thought. I would just have deep conversations with people about their mindset. And through it, we would have epiphanies and discoveries and they'd come back like, God, that conversation changed my life or changed how I was thinking about this. And so I just realized like, wow, this is something that I love and something that's worth pursuing as more than just a little hobby. So that's kind of where my interest in coaching and mindset has really been born from. That's awesome. And you put all the work and stuff we just had a hypnotist on yesterday okay with a book yeah cool yeah i'm actually we didn't i'm just hypnotizing

you to say i think that we did that no i'm just kidding i'm very hypnotizable so i don't i don't know how to hypnotize anybody so i know how to bore them to so they drew out the side of their mouth i do that on dates. You probably do. You're probably doing more hypnotic trance work than you think. A lot of hypnosis is really just about neuro-linguistic programming is kind of the school of thought. But essentially, the way that you speak gets people to kind of quiet the normal thought processes of their mind and tune into your voice.

And because you're a great podcast host you're probably using a lot of hypnotic trance patterns just without ever realizing it i think the problem is that on the dates i'm using my hands like this yeah it's distracting from go to sleep or something i don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just doing jokes here, people. Work on that too. Yeah, the jokes or the hypnosis. So yeah, you got to love it. What are some other techniques maybe we haven't explored that are inside your book? Yeah, one that I really like is called the why, the what, and the how. And it's really a process that you can do just in about 30 seconds, but it helps you to really prime your mind and get rooted for something

that's important to you. I like to do it before the gym or before I sit down to work or do a podcast or something. So the first question is the why. So why are you doing what you're doing? Just spending a few seconds to say, you know, I'm going to go work out because health is important to me and I want to be, you know, fit in my old age and blah, blah, blah, blah. And you say, what am I going to do? And you just think about it for a second. You see yourself doing that. So if it's a workout, you see yourself doing the exercise, pushing yourself maybe a little bit farther than you normally do. And then coming out the other end or even five years from now in like great physical shape, you just envision that for a second. And then the final piece is the how. So how do you want to show up mentally?

So that's really about just taking a second to say, okay, if I'm going to go do a workout, how do I want to feel? I want to feel energy. I want to be excited that I'm here. I want to push myself. So it's like just spending a second to think through those three things. It connects you to your identity, the purpose and meaning behind why you're doing it. It connects you to a sense of strategy. You see the what, and then it connects you to your physiology and your emotional state. And it helps you to just prime yourself. And like I said, you can do it in literally 30 seconds. You just think, why am I doing this? What am I going to do? And how do I want to do it? And even if you never think about it again for the rest of

your workout or workday or whatever it is, the more you start to practice priming your mind to show up in the way that you want to, the more that that naturally becomes a subconscious habit, and it just happens without your influence. Ah, so there you go. You set it up to where you can constantly build it out. You get the habit-forming thing that you do. So you kind of just keep doing that for a while until it sticks then.

Yeah, I find that it's useful the very first time you do it. So it's great, the long-term effects of doing it consistently, especially if it's for working out, for example. If you do that every time for 10 times in a row, I guarantee you're going to start to have a lot more just subconscious motivation to be working out beyond the exercises themselves. But if you really tune in with it, especially if you do it for five minutes, like I like to go sit in the sauna before a workout and I will just think through those things for five minutes. And when I really connect to it, it's like, sometimes I go to the gym and I'm like, oh, I don't really want to be here or whatever. But if I really connect with those pieces and say, why is this important to me and really feel it, I always come out of the sauna, like ready to go, or at least in a better state than I was coming in.

You know, so just those I do believe that each day you do it, you will have a positive effect literally right afterwards. But I think long term is really where it pays off. Definitely identifying for your brain the why of why you want to do something as you as you put it, putting it into your identity. And that's very different than just being like i think i want to i don't know i think i want to work out of the gym some more what does that mean i mean what is it how does that how does the body facility in the mind facilitate that where if you you know if there's a why there you know we always want to understand the why if there's a why there you go okay well this makes sense as to why this is important and what's the value of it to me

instead of just being like i just want to go to the gym get some muscles or something totally you've got a whole lot more input that you've you've you've done in there and that you can work with what talk to us about some of the things you have on your website i know you've got some your podcast you've got coaching talk to some of the offerings that you have on your website that you offer to people for one the i've got a little quiz that I can send to you. If you've got some show notes, we can throw it in. But through this quiz, it's the mindset sound check to figure out, is your mind in tune within an area?

You get to choose whether it's your work or your health or whatever. You pick an area, and then you go through and ask yourself these five different questions to figure out if you're in tune or out of tune. And then with that, I actually will include a free copy of my ebook. If you fill it out there, it'll be emailed to you, a free copy of the ebook. But yeah, obviously I have my podcast on there as well. I do speaking engagements. I'm doing this suicide awareness one coming up in a month here. I've also earned a couple of weeks here. I've got to work with some high schoolers too. I work with some high schoolers in Minnesota.

It's a soccer team and I help them with mental performance. And it's kind of going through really teaching them the ways that the mind influences their physical performance and their ability to really show up in a sports world. I think that there's so many wild applications for mindset and psychology. I think two of the strongest that are really untapped is in the work world and also in sports. Sports has been such a heavy emphasis on physical ability and strength and the fundamentals of basketball of taking the shot over and over. But the mind is really what's running your body. And when you introduce fear and pressure and things like that, if you don't know how to address those, you're putting your body into a whole different

physiological state. And at that point, it changes how you're going to react so you might do a you in practice or behind closed doors with yourself you can shoot the hoop every time but on a pressure when pressure mounts you know how do you handle that so there's a lot of ways that people can you know simple tools that people can use to really understand the way that their mind affects them in many avenues certainly sport definitely how do people onboard with you or handshake with you to find out if coaching with you can help them and onboard? Do you have courses, things of that nature? Yeah, I have a meditation course on my website there that is an eight-step process to really teach. It takes someone from a beginner level to all the way

through. You're pretty, pretty experienced. You can do it all on your own. Essentially, there's four different phases to it. One, it's understanding your breathing. That's pretty normal to meditation. But number two is your physiology. So it's how to relax yourself, do deep muscle relaxation, essentially put your body to sleep. And's very restorative and then the next piece is controlling your heart rate and then the fourth element is controlling the mind so slowing your mind down into an alpha state so it's broken down in eight different levels and it kind of walks you through each one how to create that state in your binded body and yeah it's i think it's an easy way for people because i struggled with that for a

long time. I learned to meditate right after I had that initial hypnosis experience. Because I went into this deep state, it was like I could just, ever since then, I've been able to go back to it. I can meditate in about two minutes. I can get into a really deep meditative state. I can put my whole body to sleep to the point where it's pretty much numb and my mind slows all the chatter down. It feels incredible. But I've always, people always say, how did you, how do you do that? And I just, I hadn't had words for it for a long time. So I finally put that program together. There you go. So I think it was cool. Save you on edibles then. Exactly. Yeah. You can, you can multiply the effects if you've got some, some of those sitting around. But also just for, for coaching though, people can multiply the effects if you've got some of those sitting around.

But also just for coaching, though, people can reach me at coach at cjleady.com. That's where people will send me initial inquiries, and then I will do a 15 to 30-minute initial coaching call with people. It's kind of a discovery call to see if what they're interested aligns with what I can offer. And then you work with corporate teams, senior executive teams, et cetera, et cetera. I do. Yeah. So I've worked with a few Fortune 100 companies and typically I'll just go in. I like to work with the head manager. It's oftentimes sales teams and I will just kind of get their basic blueprint of how they're currently showing up and who are kind of their top performers and maybe who needs a little kick in the butt. And then we'll go through and we'll kind of do about an hour long session where we'll break down just some basic habits that people are either following or not and some different mindset

tools that everybody can kind of apply. And it really follows a lot of the backbone of the tune your mind concept. So figuring out if people are really in tune within their sales position or whatever role they have in the company there. And yeah, it's been a fun one. There you go. Tune your mind.

At least people should try using their mind first, probably. It's probably, yeah, and then tune it later. You might want to pick that thing up, dust it off your brain and all that good stuff. So give people a final pitch out to order the book on board with you and your services and your dot coms as we go out. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, people can find me at cjleady.com, which also has links to all the other things, but you can find me at Mindset is Art podcast.

My book's on Amazon. My audio book's on Audible. Probably get it up on a few other sources coming up in the future too. But those are definitely the main ways to reach me. You can reach out, coach at cjleady.com. I'd love to connect with anybody out there who's interested in anything we've talked about today. Well, thank you very much, CJ, for coming to the show. We really appreciate it. Yeah, thanks, Chris.

Appreciate you having me. There you go. Thanks for our audience for tuning in. Go check out the book wherever fine books are sold. It's called Tune Your Mind, Finding Follow-Through and Fulfillment in the Dawn of Distraction and Disruption

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