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Episode Date: May 27, 2020

Twitter Weighs Removing Trump From Platform & Other Tech News

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Today we top out with the news that yesterday trending on Twitter was the trend hashtag to try and get Trump removed from Twitter, that it was time for him to go. Pretty much the whole community of Twitter was calling out for the president to be removed. Largely, it's a compilation of just about everything he's done on Twitter. The disinformation, the lies, the attacks, the viciousness. It really is sad. And a large part of the focus of this was Joe Scarborough and the MSNBC host of Morning Joe. Full disclosure, I'm a fan of his.

And I watch Morning Joe almost every morning. But still, this is the fight over the truth. And the story as it goes, 19, 20 years ago, one of Joe's, I guess, assistants or whatever in the campaign, he was out of town at the time, had a heart condition. She fell. The coroner's office marked it up as it was. And just the whole story is so far-fetched that you could turn it into a conspiracy but that doesn't stop people that are ugly like Donald Trump and since then he spoke out a lot about a lot of lies even

inferring that they had had a relationship just anything to get back at Joe Scarborough who's a member of the press, who's speaking truth to power, who's exercising the First Amendment. This is what our press does. This is what our founding fathers wanted. So, and it's just a summation of the hatred, division, and lies that Trump has been propagating since he began running for president. You could probably even say before that when he used to hate-tweeted Obama and his racist mythology. Going back to, I think he started that

in about 2012 or probably earlier than that. I think once Obama became president. So Twitter has been stuck with, what do they do? I mean, I would give you that Twitter was pretty boring and pretty dead up until Donald Trump won office. And that has definitely, he's definitely been the people that have made them the most, I suppose, get the most traffic, be the most popular.

I don't know if they're the most popular but you know what i mean getting more popular and so jack has been stuck behind between this and a hard place where you know he's got a side you know he's got this president on here this person i should probably say more accurately who is tweeting stuff that anybody else like you, if you or I tweeted just a small fraction of what this person, um, he tweeted out, we would have been banned, you know, time and time again, uh, from the platform. Uh, there's certainly many people have gotten banned from the platform for less. And, uh, so Jack has stuck the CEO of Twitter between kicking this guy from the thing. Um, and I kind of understand some of what Jack's going on about caris wisher wrote a great article i implore all of you to

take and listen to and i'm not being political here on the chris voss show um i suppose i've injected a little bit of it but but for the most part this comes into technology twitter we'll get to some other tech news here in a bit. But Jack is stuck between what do you do with this situation? Now, a lot of people, if you read Kara Switch's article, she references a letter put out by the widower of the young lady who passed away in Joe Scarborough's office, calling out for Jack to at least delete the tweets, to remove them from Twitter. A lot of us supported that. A lot of people retweeted that. I did myself.

I felt at least Twitter should delete his tweets, if not remove them from the platform. But I got to tell you, from all the action that I see on Twitter, it would be a pretty empty place if they kicked Trump off. And I think they know that. And it's sad that we're stuck in this uh point of life that we have to decide between well i don't have to but twitter has to say between making money and uh and uh maybe staying in business he's making threats to them now this morning about uh putting him out of business um but this is the big challenge that we have these these people want to make these vehement lies these conspiracy theories this disinformation to deceive the american public and uh we they can't you know

this is the one guy they can't kick off the platform uh they've even kicked the president of brazil off for some of his disinformation that he's put out uh but unfortunately this guy has the ability to do damage to them, probably on a severe basis. And, you know, there's some other aspects of that as well. I implore you to read Kara Swisher's article and the article of the widower of this young lady. It will bring a tear to your eye, and it's definitely heartbreaking. And to think of the damage that goes to these families. We've seen the fallout of the damage, or hopefully many of you researched the damage of what happened to the Sandy Hook families,

where they literally had to move. They were persecuted and hunted by all the crazy conspiracy nut jobs that were out there, etc., etc. And now this is going to descend on this family. And it's just completely inappropriate, un-American, and disgusting. On one hand, when I've talked to people about this, I can see where it's important. If we had known how crazy Nixon was, how far off the rails, how much he was drinking to a point that the Joint Chiefs of Staff said, if he calls in a nuclear strike, don't exercise it without checking with us. If we had seen how far off he was, the rails, what kind of person he was, the swearing, the things that really surprised Americans in the 70s when they heard the tapes.

If they had heard any of that during the first four years of Nixon's office, he would not have been reelected president. At least that's my opinion. And so what we have is a lot of presidents, you know, they kind of get to hide behind the PR veil of the White House. They get to, you know, they've got all sorts of people who, you know, no matter what they say or how they say it, sometimes we don't hear about it till later in books and stuff and people that were around. And by then it's too late to be actionable.

You know, we're hearing in real time the dysfunction of this president, the dementia, the frontal lobe, the collapse of him, watching him at Memorial Day sway back and forth from the frontal lobe dementia. Um, the jerking of his arm, which is a portion as well, uh, his, his anger and his, uh, his lies and all the stuff that he does is really narcissism are also indicators of that disease. Uh, he is melting down in public, but on one case, case, it may be better that we do that. I think Jack looks at that from an aspect of this is a guy that it's better to have him showing who he is in full display on Twitter so the voters in 2020 can make their choice.

You'd almost rather have that but there is a line there's there has to be a line the man can't just go around and kill people on fifth avenue which is basically what he's doing on twitter and actually if you read the legal documents of what his uh attorneys are arguing right now in SCOTUS and have argued up in prior court arguments, if you read law like I do, they are arguing that he is able to, he could murder someone and get away with it as long as he's president and he would not be able to be held accountable. His attorneys have actually stated that in court documents. They are trying to make this gentleman a king. Beside that of politics, I think Twitter has some real issues. Now, Twitter, for the very first time, has put in these things that say stuff about two of his tweets. And they're about tweets for mail-in ballots they

have added nothing and what they do is they basically have a warning that this tweet is not is incorrect it's bad information it's disinformation and they link it to data that disputes it and speaks otherwise so i think that's important the only problem is is now he's really pissed that that that there is a authority saying you pissed that there is an authority saying he's disinformation. Maybe he'll call Twitter fake news and quit Twitter. But I think it's important. Us being able to monitor him on Twitter is important. But also, there needs to be signposts. And I would remove his tweets if I was about the Joe Scarborough situation with the young staffer.

I would remove those tweets. And I would probably also call the White House and say, you know what, here's the thing. Either dial it back or we will remove you from the platform. I mean, that's just it. I mean, there comes a time in I mean, you, you, there, there comes a time in this life where you got to stand up for something and you just can't roll over and you got to realize the world is bigger than yourself and, and you've got to take chances. So I would rather be known for somebody who went down in flames because they stood up for the right

thing because they stood up for humanity and got burned for it by the evildoers, then be someone who was complicit and who cowered in the face of adversity. So that's my take on it. And I'm curious what yours is. You can tweet me at Chris Voss on Twitter. You can, of course, follow me on LinkedIn and every place else. But I think it's really great that they have taken and marked his tweets. And they need to mark it some more.

Because here's where we're at in our society, people. I remember growing up like, you know, 20, 30 years ago, and we started seeing them having to put signs on stuff because people were so fucking stupid. They would do Darwinistic sort of activities. And then when they would kill themselves from their stupidity, their families would sue and people would have to pay incredible amounts of money because they were too dumb not to do what they're doing. We had to see stuff like, you know, warning labels, like don't drink the bleach. Don't let your babies play with plastic.

Don't jump off the bridge. You will die. You know, stuff that anyone with half of a fucking brain could be like, yeah, if I jump off the bridge, the likelihood of me dying is probably going to happen. You know, and they're just not. And so they had to start putting these notices everywhere. And we've reached this Darwinistic idiocracy society where we actually have to put up warning labels and go, no, this is wrong. This is a lie.

This is different disinformation. And this is the big war we've been having for the past six or seven years on Twitter, Facebook, and other places, the disinformation campaign, et cetera. I'll be talking on one of our other podcasts about Facebook's recent articles. I believe it's the Wall Street Journal has written some articles on them. We'll talk about that on another episode of Facebook and dealing with the 2016 and some of the ways they've dealt with divisiveness and conservatives attacking them for kicking their crazy conspiracy stuff off. But we are in a war of logic, facts, reality, and truth. And this is the battle that we are in to get to truth. So I'm interested to hear what you think. You can tweet me at Chris Voss. You can, of course, let me know at Chris Voss at

thechrissvossshow.com what you think. I'd be kind of curious and uh we'll talk about some more on the show but it'll be interesting to see how this plays out this has been kind of a battle going on between twitter jack and trump for a long time uh there's been different warnings given to them that they were going to finally do this and now it looks like it may come to a head and uh um it will be interesting what happens jesus wow i just crazy stuff um according to verge amazon sent a script and video to us tv stations promoting its safety measures at least 11 stations aired some form of it and 10 did not divulge the source this is what we're talking about in the prior bit uh you know we need to get back to truth we need to get back to sourcing facts um those of you who are out there in the in the sphere passing around news sharing items you need to source your news you need to

get down to facts and dial this down truth is is becoming like gold these days the reality of facts and truth are becoming the most uh rare gems that are the most important as our society is disintegrating with this lies and difference this information um i'll be talking about this on another podcast but this is from the Wall Street Journal. Sources and documents talk about how Zuckerberg and others shelved damning research into Facebook's polarizing effect, weakening efforts to apply its conclusions to its products. So I'll talk about that in another episode. I want to kind of get in some depth to that like we did the Twitter thing.

So watch for that episode coming up next up in the list according to coin desk they are acquiring to go me a prime brokerage platform specializing digital asset training to bolster its institutional training business uh more and more cryptocurrency goes legit um and uh you know i've seen some players that wanted to issue coins and they couldn't because the SEC regulations and scrutiny. And so that's probably good. It's made the market, I suppose you would say, more stable. I mean, more people want to see those crazy get rich swings where it goes from, you know, $600 to $20,000 overnight. But, you know 600 to 20 grand overnight but uh you know who knows uh you've got to just see how that whole thing plays out and you can follow cryptocurrency stuff over on cryptolifepodcast.com

uh according to the wall street journal sources say amazon is advanced taxed to buy talks to buy the self-driving car startup zooks the deal will value Zoox at less than the $3.2 billion valuation it achieved in 2018. Ouch. A lot of self-driving cars, startups, and companies really suffering with the coronavirus because they can't operate because those cars have got to be clean, probably on a regular basis, and they can't have multiple people stuck inside of them. So that definitely was something that pushed back us getting to self-driving cars, which I'm really buggered about. I was really looking forward to self-driving cars. I've been wanting that so bad for, I don't know, five or six years, I guess, I've been seeing in the future, and I just want it now.

But with this virus, it's not going to come anytime soon. According to HBO, Max launches without Roku and Amazon, the two most popular streaming platforms. That's kind of interesting they didn't put that in. USA Today is covering it. And they bowed with unlimited access to every episode of Friends, The Big Bang Theory, and Game of Thrones but all you've got is a streaming player from Roku or Amazon you won't be able to

watch so if you've got those two units you can't watch HBO max how crazy huh according to CNET Sundar Pichu Pich CEO of Google, told an employee Google plans to gradually reopen offices and is targeting July 6th at around 10% building capacity, increasing to about 30% capacity by September. Think about what that means, folks, because these CEOs and these companies like Google, they meet with a lot of brilliant people. They probably spend a lot of people paying them to consult. And they're saying that their companies may not be fully filled with employees by 30% by September, the way things are going.

So that means, I don't know, if they're 10% in July, 30 30% by September it could be till the end of the year that they reach 100% I'm sure we'd have to have a virus inoculator or testing or some sort of thing of that nature we're already seeing now the reopening is starting to increase especially in states that were far reckless and looser fast and looser with their um with their uh not only reopening too soon but their guidelines of keeping people contained we're also seeing that americans just kind of think it's a joke it's like they they serve their one month time and they're just like i'm over it i don't care anymore if i get the virus i just want to

get out and see the sun and uh and go work uh work. Uh, wow, man, it's crazy. The stuff we're seeing right now and the virus is just taking off. Um, Alabama, uh, was talking about how last night there, there Montgomery, which is the main city in, in Alabama, um, their hospitals are now full going to overflowing. They're going in full crisis mode now in New York style sort of thing. And, uh, the bottom line is that it's still increasing, uh, even in places like my state that I'm in, very few people are observing the mask thing. Uh, I kind of get giggles when I go out with my mask and my glove on. Um, that's, there you go.

To tell you what I do, I'm very, I've watched a couple nurse videos on cross-contamination. So what I do is I'm using my phone and, of course, I pull stuff into my pocket like money or credit cards or or keys and stuff so i keep one glove on my left hand when i go in and i wear my mask and i use the left hand the one that's gloved to pick up all the products touch everything touch the car carry it around so that my right hand is always clean and then i go to the counter put everything on the thing with the glove tan my gloved hand operates everything in the store except when i need to pull my credit card out or my phone for touchless purchasing put that in there and then my credit card goes into my bags if it goes in the machine because I don't know uh you know those things are dirty as all get

out you might as well just rub money in your face um and so I put the credit card into the bag because now it's as far as I'm concerned, potentially contaminated. I go out to my car. The left hand loads all the stuff into the car, take the glove off. And what's nice is I don't have to use the alcohol that really burns my hands for some reason. That is alcohol rinse things. And by doing that, I keep the cross contamination under control uh and i make sure that i'm not i'm not bringing stuff home etc etc i have some family and loved ones i'm

taking care of and i don't want to i do the last thing i would ever want to do is infect them uh according to gardner global shipments of pcs tablets and mobile phones are forecast to top a 13.6 overall in 2020, with smartphones dropping 13.7 year-over-year and PCs falling 10.5%, which is kind of interesting. I just recently found out that Logitech and other companies that make webcams have all sold out because people have been buying them because they have to stay at home. Crazy.

So there you go. Just nuts. buying them because they have to stay at home crazy um so there you go uh just nuts um according to mac rumors apple releases the mac os 10.15.5 with new battery health management feature for macbooks with thunderbolt 3 uh manages battery life by adjusting charging patterns cool that's pretty awesome our batteries will get smarter i'm all for that as long as they don't light on fire i'm looking at you apple and samsung and i love samsung so there's that and gadget says switzerland is the first country to launch a large-scale pivot for cat coven 19 contract contract contact tracing app the swiss code is the name of the app it's using apple and google's api and they're piloting a contract tracing app that uses the apple google framework and uh yeah so that'll be interesting that's what we're all going to come down to i guess we're all

on the same app someday we're gonna have facebook twitter tick tock and uh whatever the tracing app is going to be called in your country because they're just using the Apple Google APIs. According to sources in Bloomberg, TikTok, the parent company ByteDance, generated $17 billion in revenue and $3 billion in net profit in 2019, more than its double at $7.4 billion revenue in 2018. Holy crap. That tells you how popular they are.

So they basically went from, let's see, 17. So they went from uh 7.4 billion in revenue to 3 billion in net profit in 2019 uh to 17 billion in revenue so they've gone basically in two years from 7.4 billion in revenue to 17 billion dollars in revenue wow how about them apples um uh according to the wall street journal uh major investors on quibi including pepsi walmart are seeking deferred payments as quibi aims to cut costs over the last month's lack luster debut wall street journal i gotta tell you um i i signed up for quibi i'm in the test phase i watched five minutes of it and then I moved on. I'm not really big a TV movie sort of guy. I'd rather play video games or something. But even then, I still watch Netflix. I watch my

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Tell them Chris Voss. Send it to Tube it to buddy.com forward slash chris voss according to tech crunch israel based d-id which is working on tech to make faces unrecognizable to face recognition software it's pretty funny we have we have tech that makes that fights we have one tech that fights face recognition by making the faces unrecognizable. They raised $13.5 million by AXA Ventures. It's disturbing that we don't have regulations that stop facial recognition in this country. And we've seen the abuses in China, and people are planning on it becoming so either profitable companies that make it or prevalent that some companies are making counter software for it.

That tells you what our future looks like, people, if you're not doing the math. According to the rest of the world, this is an outlet, of course, look at okash it's a popular microcredit app in kenya that threatens users to notify everyone in their contact list when they fall behind on loan payments holy crap okash is a popular fintech app in kenya and nigeria and it threatens users to notify everyone in their contact list when you fall behind your loan payments it's kind of interesting it's an interesting peer pressure i suppose way of everyone will know you've you've missed your credit one payment and stuff that's pretty crazy um i'll be interested to see how that works i don't know in some places like all your friends might also be credit deadbeats,

and they just might also be like, what the goal? You screwed the man. I don't know. Whatever. According to Media Nama, I don't know. You'll just have to see what turns out. According to Media Nama, Indian government open sources its contact tracing app on GitHub, starting with an Android app code and iOS code coming soon after

this is the world of coding them if you young person growing up learn to code I think it would be pretty awesome this really struck me as crazy and of course like I said we've talked about this much on the Chris Voss so we're gonna see more disinformation more craziness more abuses coming into this election a lot of interference from every different side and this is why at the beginning of the show i said it's important we all need to be paying attention what's going on we need to be paying attention to what we share we need to be fighting for the truth according to verge despite being banned in china YouTube has automatically removed comments with certain phrases that are insulting to the Communist Party.

They are calling an error. Pretty interesting. Somehow they figured out how to game their own algorithm, probably by marking or tagging it. And then once they tagged it enough in reports, their algorithm went through and removed that. I'm guessing. That's my guess. Because you can actually do that when people spam fairly often. Uh, what's also interesting is they're finding that on Twitter, even though Twitter has also

been in China, the, uh, people who are running the Chinese communist party are doing everything they can to sow disinformation and deflect blame for the coronavirus. They seem to be trying to provide an alternative message to what Trump is doing and blaming them. It's like the disinformation wars of one lying disinformation group fighting the other. No, you lied. No, you lied. No, you're all fucking liars, man. And you can all go to hell that's my position according to gizmodo uh spotify uh has lifted its 10 000 song cap on personal libraries which is good for people like me i think i have like 40 000 songs or 20 i have some stupid amount so they've lifted its uh 10 000

song cap on personal libraries allowing unlimited songs and the limit remains for downloaded songs and playlists i don't download them what's the point of it you're on spotify hello there you go so i am glad they're doing that because i have a lot of material holy crap on uh my things i think at one point i had like 4 000 cds that i moved to digital back in the day and um so yeah i'm pretty sure i have more than 10 000 songs i think it's like 40 it's like some stupid amount it's crazy so i'm glad that's happening so if you like spotify you can do that as well one of my favorites is title uh title is one of my favorites that i always go to uh full disclosure we've had a free account with title for since their beginning uh but i loveidal because it gives you that high quality audio.

So there you go. There's another thing that's interesting on the market I also have a free account for that we tested for press. It's called Qubuz, Q-U-B-U-Z. Initially, I wasn't that excited about what they put out, but they definitely have got their game up. They've improved the quality of the recordings over there. So check that out as well. You know, it's interesting. You kind of have to have these different platforms because many of them, you know, don't have certain songs. Like I can't, I'm a big Metallica fan. I didn't used to be able to get Metallica on Spotifyify i can get it now and i can't get it any uh i believe on title and i don't think i can get on cubas either you know they have to work out all these you know the back end deals whatever

whatever you want to call it so um anyway check that out those are kind of cool. I'm glad they're doing these changes so that I can have more access to my library and use Spotify as per se instead of just having to go into my own record area and use the Microsoft Windows thing. Anyway, that's the news for today. We ran a few other different interviews up today with some different people that are going to be really cool to have on. I implore you to check those out. Please share the show to your friends, neighbors, relatives. If you get a chance, please go write a great review for us on Twitter or any of those other places. If you have ideas for the show or you want to give me some comment or feedback, please go to Twitter at Chris Voss and let me know. I really appreciate you being a listener

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