The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Unleash Your Sexual Superpowers: A Porn Star’s Guide to Sexual Mastery by Erik Everhard

Episode Date: February 20, 2021

Unleash Your Sexual Superpowers: A Porn Star's Guide to Sexual Mastery by Erik Everhard Erikeverhard.com Become a better lover and leave her begging for more when you Unleash Your Sexual Superpow...ers. An epic experiment has played out over the last 20 years. The laboratory where it took place is the San Fernando Valley. The subject of that experiment: Erik Everhard. Unleash Your Sexual Superpowers is the result of 20 years of practical, real-world knowledge gleaned from my sexual exploits with over 5,000 women. This definitive manual harnesses real world techniques that actually work and deliver real results. From overcoming performance anxiety, to lasting longer in bed and giving women orgasm after orgasm. These techniques, strategies, and psychological biohacks have all been tested extensively by yours truly so I guarantee they work. This comprehensive guide delivers the top secrets learned from one of the world's top male porn stars specifically designed to help you! Become a better lover and leave her begging for more when you Unleash Your Sexual Superpowers.About Erik Everhard Erik Everhard is one of the top paid and most recognized performers in adult films of the last two decades. He has won numerous Male performer awards and been enshrined in the hall of fame of the AVN and XRCO organizations. In 2010 he embarked on a transformational journey studying NLP at one of the top institutions in America. Since then he has dedicated his time and effort to helping men by teaching them elite-level sexual skills to have confidence with women in the bedroom.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You wanted the best. You've got the best podcast, the hottest podcast in the world. The Chris Voss Show, the preeminent podcast with guests so smart you may experience serious brain bleed. Get ready, get ready, strap yourself in. Keep your hands, arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times. Because you're about to go on a monster education roller coaster with your brain now here's your host chris voss hi folks just boss here from the chris voss show.com the chris voss show.com hey we're coming here with our great podcast we certainly appreciate you coming by and checking us out and all that good stuff. Today, we have a most excellent guest, which is going to be pretty interesting. This is a
Starting point is 00:00:49 gentleman. We've been having a lot of great guests that we met on Clubhouse. It's been such a wonderful app where we've been able to make new friends, meet new people, expand our network and everything else. And you'd be surprised the different professional people you'd find on it. Many of us are on there. We're looking for different marketing skills, talking, speaking, pushing books, et cetera, et cetera. And I got a chance to meet a really interesting person that we'll be talking to here in a second. If you've ever wondered what it's like to be a man,
Starting point is 00:01:16 to have to perform in a sexual nature, or if you wonder what porn stars as maybe a man goes through, or different tips that you can use as a man to be a better lover or unleashing your sexual superpowers, as the name of the book is called. We have today Eric Everhard. He is the author of the book Unleash Your Sexual Superpowers, A Porn Star's Guide to Sexual Mastery. So we're going to have him on the show. We're going to be talking about some of his stuff. Be sure to watch the video version of this on OnlyFant.
Starting point is 00:01:49 No, I'm just kidding. YouTube.com forward slash Chris Voss. You can also go to Goodreads.com forward slash Chris Voss. Facebook.com The Chris Voss Show. And you can also go to LinkedIn and Instagram as well to see the video versions of this and also the audio as well. Be sure to subscribe to chrisfoshow.com. Eric is coming to us all the way from Prague. He is one of the top paid and most recognized performers in adult films over the last two decades. He's won numerous male performer awards and he's been enshrined in the Hall of Fame of the AVN and the XRCO organizations.
Starting point is 00:02:30 In 2010, he embarked on a transformational journey, studying NLP at one of the top institutions in America. Since then, he's dedicated his time and effort to helping men by teaching them elite level sexual skills to have confidence with women in the bedroom and today's uh sponsor is the bible the bible follow the 10 commandments don't get into trouble and don't have sex with uh strange people welcome to the show eric how are you i'm fabulous thanks chris'm going to cut that part out. I thought I'd just do that for you. That was the best intro ever. I was trying to promo it better, make it seem like it's a real sponsor,
Starting point is 00:03:15 and have you just sit there going, like, what the fuck? So welcome to the show, Eric. How are you? Oh, fabulous, fabulous, man. I'm glad to be here. Fabulous, darling. So it's wonderful to have you on the show give us your plugs so people can find you on the interwebs okay well they can find me at www.ericeverhard.com and they can also find me on instagram at eric everhard official
Starting point is 00:03:40 and of course on the illustrious clubhouse clubhouse the clubhouse app where i met eric and actually a lot of really cool porn stars came on they're really wonderful professional people they're looking to expand their brand and and do what they do especially with covid and all the different difficulties every business is having with filming so you've written this book but let's get into we'll save that for a little bit later but let's get into, we'll save that for a little bit later, but let's get into kind of your background. You evidently worked in the porn industry. Tell us a little bit about that. Well, I've been a professional porn actor for about, call it 23 years.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I started actually in Vancouver, Canada when I was a young, ripe 21-year-old. So, yeah, basically a little backstory. I was attending massage therapy school, actually. I was going there. And one day we're on lunch break. And we have this big cafeteria. I go in there. And they've got different newspapers that have what's going on in the city,
Starting point is 00:04:50 the band listings, just usual stuff. And you're sitting there at lunch. You're like, Hey, I'll go read something. So I opened the paper, coming through it, checking stuff out. And then bam, there I see it. There's about a four inch by four inch ad that's looking for women and couples to do a porn movie. And I'm suddenly thinking, God damn. And I used to live with this girl a couple of years before we were boyfriend and girlfriend. And sometimes we would watch porno movies together, right? And she used to always say, oh yeah, you got a big dick. You could do that.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I'm like, yeah, thanks, sweetheart, right? Because come on, Chris. Any girl that's dating you is going to say you are the fucking best thing ever, right? Even if you suck, they're going to be like, oh, you're so wonderful. So you take it with a grain of salt. But it did make me think. And so I said, okay, well, let me, because I've never seen this before.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So I said, let me give them a call. And every upstanding porno company that I ever met would do, they hung up on me. They didn't even see you first. they didn't give you the camera test nothing nothing nothing straight up not interested so i was like okay so i went back to back to school back to doing my usual thing it sounds like when i call them then yeah so so about i think it was probably about six, seven months later, again, lunch break, eating, grab the newspaper, go onto the newspaper. Bam, there it is again. And I'm thinking to myself, God, I didn't really put in that much effort, right?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Like I just called once. So then I was like, no, we're going to pursue this. So I called and I called and I called, right? And one day, apparently it was actually the owner picked up the phone. So it was a new guy. And he said, well, I'll tell you what. Come down to our studio. We'll take some Polaroids of you because this is back in the day when Polaroids existed.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And we'll see if you have the equipment. And then maybe one day we could get you a job. And I'm like, well, hey, that's better than being hung up on, right? So I went down to this. Their studio was just in the sleazy area of east Vancouver it was like close to the hooker strolls and it was like not not the best area of town and I clung the stairs knock on their steel door and and they open it and they look at me and they go hey are you Mitch I'm like yeah and then they just stare me down and just go you fuck a fuck a girl for us right now? And I was just like, I mean, dude, my jaw just dropped open, right?
Starting point is 00:07:08 And I think I let out this little meek, and that was it. It just so happened that there was this girl who was a part-time stripper, and she had shot for them before. And she just happened that day to be hanging out at their studio. So it was like when people talk about luck, it's like opportunity meets preparedness. That was this. Okay. He's here. I was there when people talk about luck it's like opportunity meets preparedness that was this okay yeah he's here i was there they said fuck it let's see if the kid can do it that was that was my my first foray into the pornography business that's awesome that's awesome the the so that got you started in the business or got you going down the road i guess what's interesting to me is with with talking with you about Clubhouse and are on Clubhouse is, is not only are men interested in your book and the consulting that you do to help men with their, with their prowess or what was
Starting point is 00:07:55 the right word with their performance, I guess. But I, I, I've been struck by how many women in my Clubhouse rooms will be, they'll, they'll be reading, either reading your book or advising their book. They're probably giving their book to their boyfriends and a lot of women have said to me after you've left the room they've been like i read eric's book and i didn't realize how how hard it is to be a man to to do the performance thing and and to sometimes stage fright and other issues i didn't realize how much pressure they go through and and a lot of the work i think it comes much easier genetically to women and i think they're built differently than we are for obvious reasons of breeding and stuff like that. So you get in the business and I'd love to have you tell the story about how you broke this to your parents or how your parents found out.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Oh, yeah, this one's great. So I'd been down. Eventually, this is a year later. I finally, with the help of a friend of mine, get down to Los Angeles. And so now I've arrived in L.A. and I need to have an excuse why I'm here. So, of course, I tell my mom initially, oh, I'm on vacation to Los Angeles. But that only lasts so long because I'm never going back. So I tell my mom I'm on vacation a couple weeks
Starting point is 00:09:07 go by and i have this new lie where i tell my mom i say hey guess what i got a job bartending i think i'm gonna stay in la for a while right so this goes on i think i'm there like maybe two months maybe two months if i'm lucky and i'll call my mom because I just get a little phone card right from the local 7-Eleven and get on the pay phone, call my mom long distance. And we have a normal mother-son conversation for 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Just normal, talking about the weather, talking about what's going on in Calgary, everything. And then as we're getting to the end of the conversation, my mom just goes like this. She goes, so I hear you're doing movies.
Starting point is 00:09:52 That was it, right? And I mean, now you got to imagine me, right? Because I'm just on the other end of the phone. Yep. And that was it. She never asked again. That's the way my mom was. My mom always wanted us to know that we never went over on her. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:09 She's as sharp as a tack sharp as a tack. I could never get anything by her. That's funny as hell. Did she ever, did you ever find out how she found out? I mean like, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I found out my, my school, my school threw me under the bus so she called because she wanted to get some some some tax stuff from my massage therapy college right so she calls them up oh i just want to get this tax form and and they go oh well he's he's he doesn't attend here anymore what do you mean oh didn't you know he's in the porno business oh crap wow so she found out from my whole school so you go to la what's that like you get in the whole scene does it pretty much become
Starting point is 00:10:56 immersive right right away where you're just working all the time well it it did shortly so when i started you have to to remember when I first started working in Vancouver in 1998, I moved to Los Angeles in February 1999. So this predated any, let's call them erectile dysfunction medications that exist today, right? So the beautiful thing about that time period was you could either do the job or you couldn't. And there was very few guys that could. I'd say 99% of the guys couldn't do it. And not only that, then you had to find a way into the business because it was very underground at the time. So when I arrived to LA, I lucked out that I did four jobs in my first month.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And then the rumors spread like wildfire, right? Hey, there's this new kid. He's really, really good. So the next month I had 15 jobs. And then it just exploded from there because, because like people would just talk and they'd be like, Hey, there's a new guy. He can do it. Right. Like he can do it. And they're like, really? Yes. Okay. It's hired. Has the equipment and the and the stamina yeah that's awesome and so you go on with the story career you do this for i think up to 20 years
Starting point is 00:12:15 is that correct and and and and i think i heard on one of the other interviews you did how many women have you been with technically 5 000 plus or plus or minus 500. Yeah, 5,000 or minus 500. Here, let me add up mine. I just want to see how we compare. Oh, yeah, that's okay. Yeah, that's pretty awesome, dude. I was using my calculator. One, two.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Okay, yeah, you got me beat. 5,000 women. Wow. I think I have dreams like that, that really when it comes down to it but maybe they were when i was 12 or something or 20 or i was in a bunch of it was so funny gris was the beginning of my career like i was thinking like oh i'm gonna keep track of this right until i did this movie it was called the world's luckiest jock and i did that i did that in the year 2000. And the movie itself was me and it was me and 101 women. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:10 Yes. So was this one of those things where you do them all at once on camera? They came in in waves of 10. Oh, sounds difficult. It was actually, it really was. It was one of those long days, long and hard. So, but yeah, yeah. The double entendres will be just through this whole video.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But this is interesting. I mean, so what were some of the things you liked about the business? What were some of the things you didn't like about the business? What were some of the things you didn't like about the business? Well, the business itself definitely has changed and morphed over the years from when I started. I would say when I started, it was very mom and pop from that perspective. It wasn't corporate. It was, I remember a lot of the directors or producers that I would work for who were shooting were actually the owners of their respective companies. Today, you would never, it's gone so corporate that you wouldn't even know the owner. The owner would never have seen you. There's so many chains of command. There's so much, there's so much money that has been sort of monopolized in that sense. So before maybe you had 100 200 smaller companies now you might have maybe 10
Starting point is 00:14:27 yeah the companies have really merged and been taken over so the whole monopolization or the corporatization i remember watching vegas go through that between the mob and going from the mob to the corporations and frankly i just didn't have the mob back really well what was funny is when i started there was still one company that was that had mob ties did they really it was well known it was well known that they were they had connections so so you know a lot of people look at your business and there's probably different things that you've dealt with where people where people disenfranchise people in the industry from being real human beings who put their pants on every day, albeit they probably have some bigger crotch size in their pants or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Bigger inseam. That's the word I'm looking for. And so how have you navigated the – you've won lots of awards with AVN and other things. How do you navigate having a normal life during that time and being in this business? Well, I was always seen sort of as an outlier from that perspective. Let's call it what it is. I mean, stereotypes do exist for a reason usually. So if you were to take a majority of the people in the business, they will fit a certain mold, right?
Starting point is 00:15:47 I just was never that because I was university educated. I never partied. I never did drugs. I just went to work, right? I went to work. I went home. I was a big fan of bodybuilding, so I was a super workout junkie. I ate super healthy, which I still do to this day.
Starting point is 00:16:03 This morning, I had my eggs and my sweet potatoes. Mmm, tasty. So from that perspective, I was just different, right? And yeah, so for me, I didn't get stuck in the trappings of quote unquote Hollywood. None of that stuff appealed to me. So yeah, I never had those issues. But do they exist in the porn business yeah of course of course you can't you can't give literally children
Starting point is 00:16:32 i mean you get someone they turn 18 and 19 and suddenly you're giving them 20 30 40 grand a month right they're not capable of handling it yeah it's it's a hard adjustment yeah you know it's like it's like this girl was just working at mcdonald's and now two months in they're driving like a c63 mercedes you're like and i would tell all of them right i would say hey save your money listen to me never so i stopped talking after a while yeah it's it's it's amazing when you make lots of money how you go through it and you you look back and you're like, I should have just been. And it's just crazy, especially if you grew up poor or you didn't grow up in money.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You don't know how to handle it. And it just makes your head whip around. And I see a lot of people that do that. Like even when we had my modeling and talent agency, we knew a lot of people that were in stripper trade and other trades. And the amount of money they would go through and you just be like where where's all that money go you're still driving 1986 honda and and where does it all go i think i knew where some of it went though i think someone went up to some noses or something but other than that so you've been on this journey you you you do this spectacular career in the
Starting point is 00:17:41 business now are you officially retired now i haven't officially officially retired yet probably i would think by end of 2021 early 2022 officially announced a retirement here's the thing right like i've always wanted to emulate wayne gretzky right so do you play hockey i watch hockey i was actually i was the only i was the only kid um in my entire block that didn't go to hockey school just so you know that seems odd to me yeah because canadians and hockey you guys you did have your own hockey stick though you could just so what what brought you on you're in prague right now i know and i think you're on a bit of a spiritual sabbatical or journey or something like that to tell us about what you you on you're in prague right now i know and i think you're on a bit of a spiritual sabbatical or journey or something like that to tell us about what you're what you're going through right now and of course you've written the book yeah so so everything
Starting point is 00:18:33 started about let's say 12 years ago it was about 2009 i met a man who's a dear friend of mine actually he's bulgarian and he lived in San Francisco. And I had some friends that attended a relationship workshop that he did. So I thought to myself, okay, let me check this out. So I went there and the whole experience was amazing. But in that experience, people were talking about this thing called NLP, neurolinguistic programming. And I'd never heard of this before. So I said, well, this is interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:04 What is this? And so they started to kind of tell me and I thought to myself, well, that might be kind of beneficial because it's sort of like hypnosis and it's sort of this and that, right? I'm like, well, you could use that for business. It could be, you know, there's a lot of applications. I thought, well, okay, where's the best place? And they all said there was this center in Marine County and that's the best place in America. So I said, okay, I'm going. That's it.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So I went there, and it was nothing like I thought it was going to be. I thought, hey, I'm going to learn some trade. Maybe I can be good for negotiation or manipulation or something. No, no, no. This was granola, holistic. This was face all your fears, face all your traumas peel back the onion of your life right so i go through this i mean i i would always joke to carl who was who's the owner of the the school i said man carl you have some secret deal with kimberly clark because literally we'd be up there in the classroom and we're facing things from our childhood and we're all crying right it was just it was amazing and
Starting point is 00:20:05 and within all that then I came out a whole new person by the end of that but I was also left with all these real existential questions about life you know and it was really okay well I'm sort of disillusioned with porn now because before I thought oh this is the best career ever right all I want to do and then suddenly was like no like, nah, not really, not really. So then it's all, okay, what is it? What, what is my purpose in life? And that became a constant theme for about a decade. What's my purpose? What's my purpose? What's my purpose? And I wasn't getting any answers, none that I could really sink my teeth into. So then I met a coach in San Francisco, business coach, and he would take entrepreneurs down to the Amazon jungle and they would drink the psychedelic ayahuasca.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Oh, wow. They would do ayahuasca and then they would work on their businesses. And it was this sort of synergistic use of the plant medicine and also practical working on your business. So I searched him out and I said, Hey, I got these questions. I cannot for the life of me find out what the answers are. So I said, I hate psychedelics because I had done LSD when I was like 14 years old. And I was like, this is the worst thing ever. Right. But i was so so looking for answers that i went and did uh went and did the medicine so did you find the answers i found a lot of answers right so my first journey was in 2014 and yeah and then i've done seven journeys since then. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:45 So it really, it really helps, huh? Oh man. Well, it's, it's not easy. I'll tell you that the journey is not easy, but it's, it is amazing, right? It's the most profound thing I've ever done because it's not, it's not like you're just seeing things that are just random. It'll show you about your life. It'll show you where you've gone wrong. It'll show you what you need to do.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And it's, it's very, it's very holistic. Wow. Yeah. So that's pretty interesting. I use my six sex divorce divorces and divorce attorneys to tell me where I went wrong in my life. There's a record of it. No, that's interesting. So, I mean, it sounds like you reach that age where you're starting to go on that journey where you're kind of becoming of age, probably in your 30s maybe, I think,
Starting point is 00:22:36 where you start questioning these things. You go, who am I and why am I here and what the fuck is going on? So I don't know if you want to call it some people use the term midlife crisis i was i didn't consider it that but it was just like okay there's something bigger than me there's something else that i have to do so so at the same time when i was doing the ayahuasca and doing the journeys and getting downloads of information i also had a bunch of civilian lovers in los angeles and civilian lovers you might have to define that for us i know what that is from from clubhouse but yeah yeah so so so if you're not in the porno business we consider you a civilian right it's the term everybody uses it's just how it is so
Starting point is 00:23:18 if you're not in one reporting for duty sir exactly so so i had these civilian lovers and and they all said the same thing they said look I don't know what you're doing but whatever you're doing is the best thing that someone has ever done to me and can you please write some sort of manual or write it down so that my future ex-husband can at least uh continue doing what you've been doing right? And that really started planting a seed in my brain. I said, well, what is it that I'm doing? Because I knew what I was always doing, but I never sat down and just broken it down and codified it. So that started that journey. And I said, okay, well, if I've been on this crazy, crazy journey, because if you think about it, like I looked at it, like
Starting point is 00:24:04 this is a crazy laboratory experiment, right? Because let's be honest, it's not normal that you would sleep with 5,000 women and not end up dead or on a street corner or something, right? Or Charlie Sheen freebasing whatever off the back of God knows what, crashing his car it was also the learning piece because if if if you look at the opportunities that you have would have to sleep with that sheer volume it's okay you're a super celebrity like leonardo dicaprio or brad pitt or somebody right yeah you know dean simmons so so in that sense you may not be learning anything because the girl it doesn't matter if you're a bad lay or not she wants the the notch on her bedpost to say you know guess what i fucked leo right so you could come in two seconds i'd be like fuck it i got leo all right they don't care so so there's that part and then
Starting point is 00:24:56 there's of course if you're a super billionaire you can hire 5 000 hookers but all those hookers are going to say you're fabulous even if you suck. Yeah. The interesting thing about porno was it was the most honest, honest interaction you could ever have because you're both being paid by a third party. So they don't give a shit about my feelings. I mean, I'm actually, this is weird enough. You can actually have a scene where two people hate each other. I've had that before. So imagine like a boxing fight where it's like, hey, you go to the you go to the red corner you're just waiting wow break and that's like and you have to have sex with them i mean yeah but you but you both hate each other wow each other
Starting point is 00:25:33 right so that is a skill unto itself so the thing the thing is chris right is is everything's honest because if you do something they don't like they they straight up fucking tell you that, Hey, don't fucking do that. Hey, do this, do that. I like this. So, so really it was, it was such a learning atmosphere. You can learn so much if you, if you have your conscious awareness to take it all in. Yeah. I was doing right. So it's like I had, I had this super laboratory where I could do all this learning.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And so then after all that i thought to myself well if i died and i didn't if i didn't give this information to men then i'd be doing a disservice because there's otherwise why did i go through with this crazy experiment right there's no one to give this knowledge to somebody because there's no other way they can get there is yeah and so that one that's what motivated you write the book then yeah so that's what that was started the process of writing the book and i i think this is cool i think we talked about this in clubhouse or something but you know i was a kid i had the normal premature issue when i was like 16 18 and and and early on i was i became very aware that girlfriends weren't too happy
Starting point is 00:26:43 with it and and so I think I read some books or I studied some Kama Sutra or some different things and learned to think about grandma and baseball and all the different things people do. But I just learned that you, Hey, you got to work on this. And then I also learned that girlfriends hate it if you go right to sleep thereafter. And so I started doing these, trying to push my challenge to kind of expand so I wouldn't fall asleep right away. And yeah, I think this is great for men. And then I guess men do have a lot of different issues with performance anxiety. I never really had that, but I did push myself in that way.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And I read some books early on. Unfortunately, you weren't around. Geez, couldn't you write this thing like 20 years earlier? But I think this is good and and what's great is now you're working with men you're helping men you're consulting with them so people can men can sit down with you and go okay so how can i work through some of these issues and and you've gone through a lot of the mental state that most men will have to go through with having a union camera guy in the in the scene going, that was pretty good, yeah. I think the lighting's pretty good over there.
Starting point is 00:27:47 There's a little bit of shadow between the balls of the dig, but I think we'll be okay there. The audio guy's going, I can't hear the moaning very well. Can you moan louder, please? I mean, the whole set thing. I have orgasmo, the film scenes from orgasmo coming in my head too, the movie. So you've really had to push
Starting point is 00:28:05 the I suppose outer limits of what most guys would have to go through and performance anxiety pressures you're standing on a set with a heart I'm going hey what am I going to do with this can we get the can we get the cameras rolling can we get all this shit going so your mental game is is way above most of the rest of us yeah well. Well, I mean, that was, that was exactly what I put into the book, right? Like for me, my experience has been very boots on the ground and it was, it was literally like, if I didn't figure this stuff out, I would get fired. Right. So, so even you look at people, they need to, or they want to,
Starting point is 00:28:47 you know, improve themselves for their girlfriend at home. It's like, I had to improve myself for my career. Hey, if I don't figure this out, I'm on the street. So in that and being put in these extreme situations, I found out how to navigate them. So it was like, hey, first, how do I deal with the anxiety piece? Okay. How do I deal with getting a hard on when I'm not turned on? What about in a situation where I'm not getting to lie on anything comfortable? What about when I'm in a situation when I'm outdoors? What about when I'm in a situation, I've done it at a frat party? What if I've done it in a bar? What if I got 20 other guys surrounding me and I'm dealing with one girl, like all these situations and you learn, you learn how to overcome your mind.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And because I say sex is 90%, 95% mental. Wow. Unless, unless, unless we have some sort of call it a physical disability, right? Unless you have some physical disability, your dick works. I get works. If you, I always talk about this with my clients. I say, I want to know first, what is your default state? And I, I defined default state by, if you just open your laptop right now and you're like, Hey, I'm going to rub one out. How, how fast can it, does it get hard? Does it get hard? What's the quality, right?
Starting point is 00:30:12 Wait, there's a scale of quality. Yeah. Well, cause now I'm feeling, now I'm feeling performance anxiety. I didn't know there was a scale of quality. I've seen way too many dicks in my time. Right. So I I've seen there's all sorts of different kinds. Oh, so we're talking about the quality of, okay. Quality of direction, right? Like some guys, me, I'm like a steel rod.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I'm like glass, right? But other guys like their heart, but it's kind of spongy and it's got flex to it, right? So, and none is better than another, but you to know okay if you're by yourself how does it perform because then if there's anything happening other than that that's not reality reality is when you're by yourself so if you're with a woman and it's something else is showing up that's a mental state so now we know what to work on right like we have to work on your mental process and we have to be able to, in the moment, get you to get out of your head, stop the negative thinking and get you focused on doing and performing.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. I remember one of my issues was I, is I had to kind of get away from the emotion and love and kind of focus more at maybe being more of a performer not not a performer just making her happy but i had to just kind of disconnect my feelings a little bit in those moments because sometimes if you get really emotional if you love somebody it would fuck me up and so i'd have to i'd have to disconnect a little bit and and then you can go through the the whole thing there at least that's what it was for me and then in the book the book, you talk about a lot of different things. Diet is another thing that's a factor as well.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah. You can't be eating a bunch of crap and expect that your dick's necessarily going to work well. Not only that, but on top of that, you want to be eating foods that are rich in nitric oxide because that's extremely important. You want your vitamin d you want you want to avoid processed carbohydrates and and and seed oils as well seed oils are really bad for you with the polyunsaturated fatty acids yeah we had uh somebody on the show i think it was called the two meals a day and we we talked about the the oils you had a lot of knowledge about that. But it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:28 So you had the whole play in your physical health, what you're eating. I mean, you basically have to make this Ferrari run, but you have to be good to the Ferrari. You have to make sure that everything's playing and balancing and stuff. You just can't just show up one day and you got to be in better shape than ron jeremy basically yeah well you know something that i often say is if you viewed sex through the lens of an athletic event oh would you how would you train or treat yourself differently the 30 second sprint i think is is most guys oh my married friends know what i'm talking about we just lost the marriage much an athletic event so if you if you start viewing it as such
Starting point is 00:33:18 then you know you're doing certain things that i talk about all the time and your penis exercises are very important because especially as you get older, your pelvic floor, that's, that's a big part of the game. Yeah. One of the things I learned to do was do penis pushups. So instead of using your arms, you just, you just use your, your thing. You lay on the floor flat and you just, you just do lifting. And that, that works for me.
Starting point is 00:33:48 So you describe in the book, some of these different exercises, some of the different techniques and stuff. What are some of the other things that you, you, when you consult with people, I imagine you do like a one-on-one thing over a call or, or a phone or, or some sort of different thing. How do you usually work with men on consulting with them? Yeah, normally I work through Zoom. So we have Zoom consultations. We get together once a week and we go deep and find out, first of all, what is their present state? What is their present state?
Starting point is 00:34:17 And then what's the path that we need to take them there? What's your atypical client that you find? Are they, are they usually married or single guys or it's been, it's been, it's been a varied I've had. Most of them have been in relationships. So whether married or with girlfriend and most of them are, are the kind of guys that are, are go-getters like want to be better. Right. So, so they may have the finances handled. They may have other aspects of their health, wealth, life handled,
Starting point is 00:34:44 but in this area, this is the part where they just didn't have access to the information. So now they're like, oh, my God, like I have someone that can actually show me really how it works. Because for me, you and me were probably in from the same sort of era. I mean, when I grew up, I'm sorry, but but dr ruth was the bastion of sex advice not the most as a guy not the not the object that you want to look at when you're thinking about giving women orgasms how many times do you think she's been late i don't know how many probably i don't know i mean wasn't she married for like forever i don't know. I mean, wasn't she married for like forever? I don't know. But I mean, it's one of the things where I take sex coaches and gurus because they just want to recite a lot of stuff that they read in a book.
Starting point is 00:35:32 They have no practical knowledge. Because there's so many things that I'll read in those books, and I'm like, this is horseshit. Sorry, I've been doing this for 23 years with over 5,000 women, and what you're writing about is fucking bullshit. That's really interesting. That's really interesting. Because, I mean, a lot of people, I suppose, write about it.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I mean, her little thing I remember, she used to go around, I think most of her thing was like the female orgasm, and we're just getting people educated that women actually have an orgasm and maybe you should give a shit. It was that age where no one gave a shit, I think, in the 80s and stuff. I mean, I grew up in and our two magazines were sears catalog and your dad's playboy if you found it or one of your friends's dad's playboy and then we'd steal it and we put it in a cardboard box somewhere in
Starting point is 00:36:15 the middle of the field oh yeah and it was like gold it was like yeah it was more precious than gold actually yeah it was even before as prepubescent so we you look at the pictures be like i don't know why that makes you so interested but it really looks cool and it's and it was it was just the seediness of the material being uh forbidden fruit if you get caught with it you're in trouble and you're like i don't know why but everyone's naked so it must be bad so it's cool and then eventually you figure out what the rest of that stuff's for. But, no, it's an interesting journey. Like I said, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I've had a lot of women talk, especially after you've left the room, and they go, yeah, I read his book, and it was really, I didn't realize how much you guys go through and stuff. And I think it would be a great book for a lot of women to understand that because they just think we're just kind of these machines where we get hard and go and we're done. And there's actually a bit of work that goes into it. And then, of course, we don't have the recyclability. Is that the word? I mean, we just can't go 24-7 like they're built to.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I mean, I got to have a nap and a sandwich in there sometimes. I mean, there's some times where I've had, we got to take a break and i go to have a sandwich well you know one of the things too that i've noticed if guys do struggle with let's say performance anxiety so they're struggling to get an erection one of the things that women don't understand is the first thing most women do is they make it about them and i try and tell women i say you're the furthest thing from our mind at that point. You have no idea what we are going through mentally right now, because here we've got this thing that's limp in our hand. Then we can't figure it out. It's the most stressful situation. Trust me. You are the last thing on our mind right now to do with, because I've, I've heard of many women that that they get angry oh you must not like me
Starting point is 00:38:12 what are you talking about trust me you think i don't want to fuck you i want to fuck you i can't i'm having a problem telling my little guy that he wants to right now right and it's that disconnect so a lot of times women will not not not intentionally but they'll pour gasoline on the fire and make it worse oh yeah because we're already having mental torture about what's going on and now you want to excorciate us over the fact that we aren't getting this done yeah that's going to help me a lot that that's just going to make it rise to the occasion right now carry that scar for life yeah oh yeah and and and i've known guys that have those moments have sort of scarred them in the sense that now now the the erectile dysfunction repeats itself because now the first thing they go into the interaction is oh it's funny chris
Starting point is 00:38:58 these are the words i always say if they enter your mind, you are fucked. So if you go in and in your, in your mind, you think, I hope I get hard. You're already, it's a downhill slope. Oh shit. You start fucking it up, huh? Because, because what happens so often is it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, right? You say, oh geez, I hope I get hard. And then if you don't get hard right away, oh my God, here we go again. That becomes the next thought, right? And then it's, Oh God, please get hard. Oh, what is she thinking about me? Oh, now she's pissed off. Oh God,
Starting point is 00:39:32 can I please get this thing going? And it's just, it's like the tsunami, right? And, and then your adrenaline is just going through the roof. And then, I mean, it might as well be just a little inchworm, just, just in a hole right yeah it's it's interesting to me i've had that happen once and it was scarring and i didn't think about it i'm not sure i i put on a bunch of weight between my last relationship and and being on top i was having trouble i guess getting all the blood flowing in the right place and i may have been pre-diabetic or semi-diabetic at the time, but there was also some aspects of her, she had Cushing's disease. And so her breasts were giving off just a weird taste that was really not, it wasn't exciting. Let's put it that way.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And I think maybe my brain was trying to send me something like, this is not the right chick for you. Maybe it was a combo of all three, but I had a really hard time nailing it. It took four, four different nights and four different tries. And I think at the end she was going, I don't think he's into me. And I really should have just walked from that one. That should have been a sign that I should have walked. But that's the only time I've ever had the performance problem. Well, there's something that I often talk about, which is sexual alignment.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Because everyone always says sexual chemistry, but when i look at it through my lens it's actually sexual alignment because i believe that's something i talk about where i say there's there's lock and key theory right because over the 23 year span basically i i discovered there were four different types of vaginas and so you need to find out which type works for you. I'm sorry. I just got a laugh with that. I'm sorry. I'm just thinking of vaginas in my head, four different types of vaginas. So sorry, that's a dirty little boy in me. I'm just thinking of all the different vaginas that are like, which four? Yeah, there's four types, right?
Starting point is 00:41:26 Okay. So let's see let's hear this now you want to know the wait is this is this the look of your vaginas or is this uh how they feel on the inside okay yeah so there's there's there's four different types okay so what are they yes so so it basically if you looked at a stereo right where it's you got those old five band equalizers where it's like zero on one side ten on the other okay on one side you'll have what i term as granular right and so we're talking about the texture on the inside now and and i'll use this analogy so that you sort of understand it like if you lined up just say 10 girls right now right and they all had on shorts and you just put your hand on each one of their thighs. Have you ever noticed how women just have different skin texture?
Starting point is 00:42:11 Some, it's like hard and the other, it's like baby soft. You're like, God, how do you have such soft skin? And then you'll have another girl where it's kind of like, not scaly, but it's just kind of like rougher texture and it has nothing to do with how hot they are. Like usually, right? It's just kind of like rougher texture and it has nothing to do with how hot they are. Like usually, right? Yeah. Skin quality. So you have to understand that same skin quality exists on the inside.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Ah, note yourself. Yeah. So what I found was, of course, most women will be somewhere sort of, you know, in the middle ground. But when you get to the extremes, the furthest extreme you'll find is what I call granular so it's got trying to think of the proper use it's it feels like almost like kind of grains like it's got lots of texture right so if we're saying like ribbed for her pleasure but that's kind of what the inside is now for some guys that feels amazing right for guys, it doesn't. And you have to determine basically what feels good for you. So that's on that extreme. Then on the other further extreme, you have what I call velvety. Okay. And that'll feel, it's literally like the softest piece of velvet you could
Starting point is 00:43:16 possibly imagine. That's my favorite there. And then you have the, the one scale it's beyond tight and then like beyond loose right and and even within there there's always this misnomer that guys are like oh my god i just want a tight pussy man tight pussies hurt sometimes a lot yeah like they can be too tight and and it's not fun like i remember this was uh years ago i was on set with um the spanish performer nacho and he was mentioning he said he goes god he goes i hate tight pussies and nacho has an enormous dick like gigantic everything's tight to him well well no not everything but but he said you know he goes he goes i hate i hate a really tight pussy because he goes i i hate having to spend
Starting point is 00:44:01 10 minutes to try and get it in it's not fun he. He goes, when I'm horny, I want to fuck. He goes, I want him to go right in. So he doesn't take vaginas. It's loose. Like that's, you know, cause he can go right in and off he goes. So you, so you have to understand that every woman will be a combination of those four traits. And then you're just going to find out what works for you.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And the first time that I realized this, it was, God, I want to say it was probably around 2000, 2001. And I was performing, I was doing the scene out by a pool and I had, it was some sort of a swimwear video, right? So these two girls in swimsuits were by the pool and it's going to be me and the two girls. And so I'm getting ready to go. And I'm thinking, okay, I'm going to do this high energy scene. I'm going to go back and I'm thinking okay I'm gonna do this high energy scene I'm gonna go back and forth between the girls make it really cool so we start and I start with the first girl and literally I go in Chris it's five strokes and I'm like oh god like I had to like get my shit together like I pull out right because I'm like holy fuck I'm ready to come and I'm thinking like okay well maybe maybe the break between going to the next girl i'll be able to wrangle it right get it back together so i go because i got them both in doggy so i go to the next girl no problem right i'm like yeah i got this back together like good right
Starting point is 00:45:13 like my my plan worked my plan of action worked and so i'm fucking fucking fucking this goes on for i don't know a couple minutes and then and then i go back to the first girl and it's five strokes again i'm like what the fuck right and then i realized right there i'm like okay this girl here i can have sex with for 20 seconds this one i could have sex for 60 minutes what is the difference huh right and that's where i started to you know actually break it down like okay what am i feeling and then once you once you notice that now i've been able to extrapolate that over the 5 000 women and every time i come across that type for me and it's a type for me i'm like holy shit i can't like i gotta pull out every trick in the porno book to keep it together I'll tell you that
Starting point is 00:46:05 right this is wild man I mean you you in the book you detail a lot of secrets of male porn stars and how you guys do what you do this is extraordinary to me I I mean I I've been with the one or two women I didn't know there's four different types and and and how that works it's you really are at this point and probably a lot of this is your book but you should just go be a phd like a sexologist doctorate of of of everything you've learned in in your experience well i mean that's what i mean like you're a scientist it's it's boots on the ground it's boots on the ground well yeah trenches you've been in some trenches that's for sure my friend but no this is this is i mean this is scientific stuff we're talking about i mean this
Starting point is 00:46:51 isn't this isn't uh stupid porn stuff this is like science this is human nature this is behavior i never really even thought about the difference there i mean i have dated a lot of women yeah and they and they and they do have different skin i I mean, I've always – it's interesting. I look at a woman's skin, and there's certain women I'm attracted to, and there's a certain kind of type of skin or look of woman that I'm not. What was interesting when I mentioned earlier about the woman that I mentioned earlier, one of the reasons we did break up is because her sex drive wasn't near close to mine. I think somehow, like you were saying, sexuality, you align. I think maybe my body was
Starting point is 00:47:25 trying to tell me something that or if i'd gotten so diabetic then when i got up on my big fat ass on my knees that would drain on the blood to all the wrong places like like it's very possible it was just misalignment right and in one of the things that i think is really behind because you think about how so many relationships fall apart and people are cheating, people are doing this, people are doing that. Now, I'm very much on the fence. I understand monogamy, so I'm definitely not against it. I might even be more towards that than I would be some crazy sort of polyamory or open relationship type relationship, just because for me, especially once you get into thinking about kids and children and upbringing and what's good for them, things get really complicated. But I think part of the
Starting point is 00:48:09 problem is that people have no idea what they actually like. Right? So it's okay. I, I, I met Susie, me and Susie are dating, we're going to married we have kids right but they don't actually know that the sex they're having with suzy is good or bad like they don't so what happens when they see donna oh man i don't know i'd like to try donna right because because they don't fundamentally know that what they have is good they don't so if if you if you can get to that experience where you can say, Hey, you know what? I've, I've tried everything. I know what's out there. Now I can make a conscious decision to say, yeah. Okay. What I have really good sex. Yeah. I, I, I've been lucky that, that whatever I did in life, I certainly didn't come anywhere near the 5,000 you did. But being able to, like you say, explore what you like, find what you like, find the people you like and stuff, and then also get a lot of it out of your system.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I have a lot of friends that they hit 40 or 50, and they get divorced. They go on their midlife crisis, and they're 10 girls, and they're 20, and they're 50. And I'm like, you're going to have a heart attack. And I grew up in a religious community and there they teach you that you don't have sex before marriage, which is just extraordinary. Can you imagine not having sex with your partner before you're married? I mean, most of them do, 99% of them do. But can you imagine not, you're stuck with that person for the rest of your life and you don't know if you, like you say, you don't know if you like this person or not. Is there a way to make that work through some of the techniques that you've used as to how to, let's say, maybe you're not sexually
Starting point is 00:49:49 aligned in your relationship or a marriage and someone comes to you for help and says, how can I, how can I make this work better and make everyone happy? Well, see, there's, there's two different parts to that, that I work with right so there's the first part which is you know technique okay so that is teachable you can teach someone better technique and that that goes for the woman and for the man right like they because if they don't have the right knowledge they don't have the right skill sets they may just be bad but it's bad because they just don't know what to do so that is one piece. Then you have biology. Biology can't be changed, right?
Starting point is 00:50:29 And so I'll be a little graphic here, but you have to really break it down because I have, obviously. You could be getting a blow job from one girl. It's the best blow job in the world. And then you get blow job from girl number two and it's horrible. Why is it? You have to look at the biology behind it, okay?
Starting point is 00:50:46 Jaw structure. Where are the teeth located? Size of lips? How big is the tongue? How small is the tongue? All these things factor into it. Right. And so based on those factors, the second girl, no matter how much you were to try and teach her, it is never going to be better because of those biological, physical limitations. Wow. That's you are a scientist, Eric. Holy shit. You should just show up in a lab coat and nothing else. How I think about sex, like I really this is this is this is my lens that I view it through. And so, because like I said, I could be getting a blowjob from, because I've gone through this, right?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Thousands of times. And I'm just like, God, this girl's horrible. And I'm like, it's got to get better. And it doesn't matter. You say, hey, can you do it this way? Well, guess what? The teeth are still there. They're not getting out of the way.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Right? Like they're not. The jaw is still, what are you going to break her jaw? What are we going to do here, right? There's no way around it. So it's the same thing, right? When you think about that, when you think about the way the pussies are shaped, the feeling inside, everything. So this goes into what I say, which is the sexual alignment piece where you have to find that person that there's that biological meshing that just lines up. And because I've gone through this personally, where I, there was one girl and she shall remain nameless, but I dated her for a long time. And she was a beautiful penthouse pet of the whole thing. Right. I mean, checked every box that you could ever imagine except it was the worst sex of my life
Starting point is 00:52:25 it was horrible and and and i mean i stayed in that relationship for a long time and of course then i was a scumbag too because then of course i was cheating on her because i was like well okay i want to i want some good sex so i'm gonna get it somewhere else and that doesn't work right like that's that's the way to Like you, it's not, it's not a solution. And what I learned then you can, if the raw talent is there, yes, you can go through communication because that's what people always say, right? I've had so many sex coaches and stuff. They said, well, you just need to communicate better. Guess what? Communication ain't getting rid of those teeth. A lot of communication is fixing that, right? So there's only so much communication that you can have. And yes, if the raw talent for there to be an alignment between the two of you is there,
Starting point is 00:53:35 you can totally work on it. But if it is so misaligned in the way that you two fit together, there's no fixing it from my perspective. And that's a hard conversation for people to deal with yeah and they probably have to decide at that point with their relationship or are they in it for a sexual basis or and the kids or whatever a lot of people make those sacrifices do you find that a lot of guys that work with you and consult with you or read your book it helps them improve the relationships they might have. Where maybe, I know the one thing, and I'm just hypothesizing this because you're obviously a scientist at this,
Starting point is 00:54:09 but maybe sometimes both men and women don't really feel comfortable communicating their fantasies. Hey, let's get weird with the Chinese swing fuck chair, or something like that. Or God knows what else. I mean, it's free country, no judging. But do you find maybe that some people are, they're not sure if they should go that full, like, let's go have some fun. And maybe they think of sex as just a little too plain, like, let's just do the missionary position and go to heaven or something. I don't know. Well, you know what i've seen with a lot of it and this is something i talk about too which is bedroom leadership in a lot of guys now especially when you look at look at the me too sort of movements and all this stuff like now i'm finding you guys are really scared to wow to lead an interaction sexually in the bedroom and that becomes problematic in in itself because
Starting point is 00:55:06 when you get into a sexual space most women want you to lead yeah definitely wear the pants right so this is something i've been working with a lot of guys on lately because they are so afraid of being labeled that guy and they don't want to make a move they're like i'll just wait for her to make a move guess what she's never gonna she's never gonna make a move yeah right and this was i was talking to one one young guy i was i was actually coaching him on clubhouse we went into a private room together and he was relating this story to me and and you got to remember like the guy i'm talking to is a six foot five tall black guy, big guy, big guy. And, and he told me the story where he, he met this girl at a club,
Starting point is 00:55:51 right. And they're having a good time, whatever, making out that kind of thing. So what she's like, Hey, let me come back to your place. Awesome. Right. What happens there nothing he doesn't want to make a move because he's worried about being that guy right so so basically nothing's going on and what happens he was shocked because she got fucking super angry at him i'm like what did you think she was gonna do well i don't know i'm like hey guess what women are not stupid okay i don't know. I'm like, Hey, guess what? Women are not stupid. Okay. I don't know any five foot nothing woman that is going to the apartment at three in the morning, four in the morning with a six foot five tall man. Shvelte gentleman.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Right. If she doesn't think maybe something's going to happen that I would like to happen. Yeah. No woman puts herself in danger. Okay. Not willingly. So it's you, you need to, to take action, right? You have to look at the interaction and you've got to calibrate. And that's the big thing I tell people over and over. You need to calibrate because if you are paying attention, paying attention to the body language,
Starting point is 00:57:04 you're paying attention to the tonality, you're paying attention to their eyes, you're paying attention to everything. You're going to know that what you're doing is landing or it's not. And that's how you avoid getting yourself in a problematic area. It's when you're not paying attention to those things, you're just barreling ahead. Of course they say, what the fuck are you doing? But you know, if you've just opened your eyes, you should have seen the signpost saying hey buddy this is not landing you should back off yeah the there's the there's the i forget his name is z's there's the actor aziz who goes on a date he thinks it's even the story that she
Starting point is 00:57:40 recounted was seemed like a normal date she She seemed really interested. She went back to his place. Just playing out. And then all of a sudden, he's on the cover of New York Times. And I think a lot of guys are worried about that. Especially if you're going to get too rough or whatever and things of that nature. Oh, yeah. But, I mean, just even me, because obviously neither one of us were there, right? Even just when I read that account, to me, there were red flags the whole time.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Oh, were there really? Oh, yeah. This is interesting. So this is why people should read your book and consult with you, is make sure they get this stuff right. Because, I mean, there's, I don't know, usually, I mean, there's a certain aggression to sex, especially if it's fun and powerful. I mean, I've had all sorts of different women partners that like everything from choking to being thrown down on the bed to all sorts of different variations of a little bit of roughhousing and trying to figure out where that balance is. And maybe those should be things that are safer later in a relationship or like you you, you watch for the cues and et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. Yeah. To me, it's, it's all about,
Starting point is 00:58:47 it's all about understanding the cues because if you're really paying attention, it's very easy to see that, that what you're doing is, is working it's landing. They're enjoying it or they're not. And it's just another thing to that. Also for a man, there's nothing sexier than non-neediness. So if a girl doesn't want to stay in your apartment, Hey, guess what? Go home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Why are you trying to convince them this, that, the other, right? Every time, every time a girl was like, you know, no, not, not tonight. I said, cool. Awesome. And I always slept with them later. It's the old fishing thing, the old fishing analogy. It's not that, but it's like, why, why would you be sitting there trying to convince something of somebody of something that they don't feel comfortable doing in the moment?
Starting point is 00:59:37 Yeah. And you should just be like, yeah, cool. Like, Hey, let's hang out next week. Sometimes you just kind of let that line roll out, let that fish wander for a bit, and it'll eventually come back to you. You know, and with that, with that Aziz story, I mean, that's what I really saw the whole time is she keeps saying she wants to leave. She wants to leave. She wants to leave. Oh no, no, stay, stay, stay, stay. Come on. Yeah, that's true. That's definitely true. Hey, let's do a date next week. Awesome. Cool. Yeah. So let me ask you this. We live in a world where a lot of my gal
Starting point is 01:00:06 pals they complain about dick pics being sent to them the the thirst of men especially with social media is just off the chart the beggingness the thirst of men i i've dated enough where where i'm just like hey you want to go out give me your number we go out if the if it's if it's any sort of buggerism i'll work it a little bit but if she's just not that into it, then fuck it. I'm going on the next. And I don't lose a lot of sleep over. I'm not, I'm not offended. I, I grew up in sales. I'm just like, okay, next. Okay. I know that she's not interested. So there's a million fish in the sea, but, and then one of the other things we're having in our society, it's really interesting is this incel problem. And so do you think some of the techniques in your book and your experience and what you consult on can maybe either help some of these incel people or guys or, or could help maybe some of these guys who are just way too freaking thirsty online?
Starting point is 01:00:59 Well, here's, here's the thing where I see it is it's knowledge, but you gotta, you have to get somebody there too. Right. So, you know, if you look at, if you look at, at dating coaches, they, they, they serve basically the beginning, beginning part of the interaction with a woman, right? Like their, their job is to help the guy get from, Hey, I'm meeting somebody to getting getting comfortable with them, to I'm getting them back to my house, back to my apartment, and we're going to hopefully have a sexual interaction. My training goes from now we're there. So I see the two industries as very synergistic because it is really two separate parts.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah. It's kind of funny. I know some dating coaches some female dating coaches that haven't had a second date in years and and and i'm not really sure what advice they're giving but yeah i wonder i sometimes wonder though within cells if they're if the performance anxiety is like they've they maybe watch too many porn movies and they think that it's the big production of things and they have some performance anxiety so i don't know i've always been kind of curious i'm always curious
Starting point is 01:02:10 what goes on behind their heads because i just don't get it like at 16 i was like girls everything was getting girls getting a driver's license getting this getting that it's like everything was like number one good girls and you really know what you're gonna do with them but you're just like we must get them wherever they are and so i i don't get the incel community and some and they do say that some of them are destabilized by porn because they look at porn and they they they think that that's the interaction you should have with a woman that's appropriate or that you just go boom boom you don't take them out to dinner you don't you don't woo them in any way you just walk right into a porn set and it's like sex time you're like no dude there's some some things you have to do there but sometimes i do wonder about if they're worried
Starting point is 01:02:55 that it's like a giant performance and that's one of the reasons they're kind of afraid or scared of women or scared to chase women i don't know kind of curious i think it's and this is just a theory right but i think there's sort of a entitlement to it yeah that too that's one and the women you know they and and this goes back to sort of something you and me have talked about before where if you look at if you look at what society says arouses women, and then you actually see what arouses women, often they don't necessarily line up. So I think a big part of what the incels is,
Starting point is 01:03:34 they've been taught, if I do this, if I'm this super nice guy, if I do everything the woman wants, she's going to magically, like in the movies, she's going to come to her senses one day, and she is going to say, you are the one. not reality it's not reality at all now it's it's not to say that it's not to say that women like assholes that's definitely not true but they like alpha type guys and those guys can be nice they can be not nice but it is if we're talking about what's going
Starting point is 01:04:01 to make the the lady part sort of tingle it is more of a very specific, decisive, go-getter, confident guy, right? And so if you are the antithesis of that, the chances that they are going to magically come to their senses one day and believe that you are the greatest thing since sliced bread is just highly unlikely. Yeah. It just doesn't happen. You got to put in the work. So, you know, I think, I think the bigger issue is that they're not being taught that, right. And someone would say, Hey, you know what? Here, little Johnny, here's how life really works and stop playing video games, get off your ass, go to the gym, take some, take some classes in speaking, like work on yourself, learn how to talk to some girls and not in a creepy way. Guess what? You're probably going
Starting point is 01:04:50 to get laid. Yeah. You bring up a good point about the entitlement. In fact, I actually had to read a book when I was younger on how to talk to girls, how to strike up a conversation, how to, how to get the whole thing going. Cause I was, I was having issues with that, but I was, I was young. So I was like, Hey, read a book, you know, how to start conversations, how to hunt the whole thing going because i was i was having issues with that but i was i was young so i was like hey read a book you know how to start conversations how to hunt on women and and how to do the whole vibe thing but you you bring up a good point about the entitlement a lot of them come from this participant award generation where their parents do everything for them and they don't have to do anything and they're just like wait my parents will get me a girl i don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:26 So there's that. Well, it's been a wonderful discussion. And I'm sure you and I could, we could be having this discussion for hours. Talk to you for hours. And we do on Clubhouse. So if you guys are in Clubhouse, join us. I mean, Eric hosts with a couple other people, some really great panels. Anything you want to plug about the book or consulting and working with you before we go out? Yeah. Well, what I'd like to say, if people go to my website,
Starting point is 01:05:56 www.ericeverhard.com, you can actually download for free the first few chapters of my book. So within that chapter three is one of the most important on pussy eating. So download that and you can get started on leveling up your sex life for free today. Yeah. And if you make your woman happy, then she'll be happy. You'll be happy. Everyone's happy and makes for better relationships. I think if everyone had better relationships or maybe studying in college how to be better human beings to each other, we'd have a lot more happier marriages a lot of better marriages so about the two things that probably make marriages fall apart finances sex yeah that's usually what
Starting point is 01:06:32 those two together chances are you're not gonna have a problem yeah that's why i always marry rich porn stars so there you go so thanks here for spending some time with us. We've had some fun. But Jesus, you are a scientist. You're like a PhD of sex. So this has been awesome. Well, like I said, this is my calling. And this is what I'm here to do is just help guys and help them so they don't have to go through what you and me went through. They can just have a nice woman and they can deliver the goods yeah and i imagine you save a lot of relationships too so we've got your dot coms don't we do do we get them all in yeah and yeah instagram at eric everhart official if they want to contact me there and there is also i have a private facebook group that they can find at
Starting point is 01:07:21 facebook groups slash eric everhart This is the cool thing about meeting you and some of the other porn stars that came on Clubhouse. They came on really professional. We talked about a lot of the same different issues that a lot of us that are internet marketers have. You get Facebook groups. How do you build a brand? How do you push a book?
Starting point is 01:07:39 How do you get speaking gigs and things of that nature, especially in the COVID sort of thing that we're going through? And it's been really cool because you realize that we all have the same sort of problems with marketing and getting our messaging and branding out there. And, and, and that's just funny. You have a Facebook group. So I have, I have all these friends. We all have Facebook groups of, of our little masterminds and different things that we do. Is it, is it, is it not called a mastermind?
Starting point is 01:08:06 It's called master something else. I don't know. I'm just going to leave that out there. I don't, I can't even get that joke, please. So guys order up his book and if you can come see Eric on clubhouse, he does these great panels. They talk about all this stuff, they lay it out and everything else. You can also go to your local bookstore or Amazon, Unleash Your Sexual Superpowers, A Porn Star's Guide to Sexual Mastery
Starting point is 01:08:31 by Eric Everhard. You can order that up. I recommend a lot of women take and check this book out too. You can understand a male's perspective of what he needs to go through. And it might be like one of those things where you can accidentally have it delivered to the house and you're like, wow, someone sent us this book this book where'd it come from but go ahead and read it guy and see what see what see what happens maybe save some relationships so thanks for coming on the show eric we certainly appreciate it thank you very much chris hope to do again soon there you go and thanks a lot for tuning in be sure to go to YouTube.com to see the video version of this if you'd like. Also go to Goodreads.com for us. That's Chris Voss.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Go to LinkedIn, Facebook, thechrissvossshow.com. You can go to, of course, Instagram and follow us at Clubhouse where we have lots of these different discussions. Thanks a lot for tuning in. We'll see you guys next time.

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