The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Unlock Your Guitar Potential with Limitless Learning from Charlotte Adams

Episode Date: January 26, 2025

Unlock Your Guitar Potential with Limitless Learning from Charlotte Adams Limitless-Guitar.com About the Guest(s): Charlotte Adams is an accomplished guitarist, guitar instructor, and music educator with over 50 years of experience. She has taught thousands of students through private lessons, classes, and workshops. Charlotte is the founder of Limitless Guitar, where she provides instruction designed to help guitarists surpass their perceived limits in learning and performance. She offers a variety of educational materials, including books and virtual courses, which emphasize effective learning techniques and self-teaching methods. Her unique approach integrates both the technical skills of guitar playing and the mental aspects of mastering the instrument. Episode Summary: Join host Chris Voss as he dives into an enlightening conversation with Charlotte Adams, an expert guitarist and educator from Limitless Guitar. This episode unveils the intricacies of mastering guitar, where Charlotte shares her journey from a self-taught musician to a renowned instructor with a focus on empowering students to become their own best teachers. Throughout the discussion, Charlotte emphasizes the importance of overcoming mental barriers and adopting a limitless mindset in guitar learning. She introduces her innovative approach, featuring her two-book set, "You and Your Guitar," which is designed to guide players in self-teaching and improving their musical skills beyond traditional lessons. Charlotte addresses common challenges faced by guitarists, suggesting that a mix of optimal practice habits, cognitive strategies, and belief in one's potential are crucial for breaking through plateaus and achieving musical growth. Key Takeaways: Understanding the 'Limitless' Concept: Charlotte’s teaching strategy emphasizes breaking mental barriers and continuous improvement, guiding students to realize their full potential in guitar playing. Self-Teaching through Structured Guidance: Her book, "You and Your Guitar," offers insights into effective self-teaching methods, incorporating both technical skills and mental approaches essential for musical advancement. Emotional and Mental Engagement: She underscores the importance of maintaining focus, managing energy, and fostering a positive mindset to maximize the benefits of guitar practice. Accessible Learning: Charlotte provides resources like virtual lessons and courses that cater to various skill levels, allowing flexibility and personalized growth for each student. Overcoming Challenges: By addressing common misconceptions like tone deafness or rhythm issues, Charlotte helps students redefine their musical capabilities and aspire towards greater goals. Notable Quotes: "You can teach yourself. If you do work with me, then I will also teach you how to teach yourself." "It's really about how to learn… the understanding of the instrument is the same regardless of style." "You are in charge. What you do during that time is really critical and it’s very uncommon for people to know how to do things in a way that will give them optimal results." "Playing guitar is or playing any musical instrument is a way to elevate your life experience in a great way." "We all have an affinity for certain things. If you feel a calling to play guitar, don't let anybody stop you."

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but doesn't judge you, at least not as harshly as the rest of your family because, I don't know, maybe you're the black sheep. Are you the one that no one talks to? Well, if you want more people to talk to you, refer them to the Chris Foss Show so that they can get on the same page as you are. Go to goodreads.com, 4chesschrisfoss, linkedin.com, 4chesschrisfoss, chrisfoss1, the TikTokity, and all those crazy places the internet. Today, we're going to be talking to Charlotte Adams. She enables guitarists to lift their limits on earning and performance by employing optimal

skills, thoughts, habits, and belief. And we're going to talk about how Eddie Van Halen was a hack. No, I'm just kidding. She didn't say that. did uh and he had even he was great so charlotte adams is a guitarist guitar instructor and music educator who has taught thousands of guitar students in private lessons classes and workshops in addition to providing instruction through her line of books and online materials she continues to enable guitarists to abandon obstacles and lift limits through one-on-one virtual instruction. And she's joining us today.

Welcome to the show, Charlotte. How are you? I am great. I'm so happy to be here. We're happy to have you as well. Give us any dot coms. Where do you want people to find you on the interwebs to get to know you better? Limitless-guitar.com.

Limitless-guitar.com. Limitless-Guitar.com So give us a 30,000 overview What you do over there, Charlotte Well, you kind of said it already Like I help guitarists lift their limits So most people, whether they're beginners or advanced players Find places where they get stuck Or they just feel like that's as far as they can go

Some people never keep up with it after they begin because they don't think they can go any further than they do, than they have. And we get past that. Nice. Nice. So do you work with beginners, novices, experts? Yes. Other levels?

There you go. If any Van Halen comes back, you'll work with him, I guess. Absolutely, yeah. I would be happy to help him. Yeah, so it's not just me working with someone. I do work with people one-on-one, but what my big thrust is with my two books set, You and Your Guitar, is so that you can learn to be your own best teacher. Because, you know, think about it.

When you're practicing guitar, you're teaching yourself. If you have a teacher, you're only with the teacher maybe an hour a week. And then the rest of the time, you're in charge. So what you do during that time is really critical and it's very uncommon for people to know how to do things in a way that will give them optimal results so and in fact even with the teacher a lot of times that's the case so so i am all about learning and um that's that's the thing is you can teach yourself if you do work with, then I will also teach you how to teach yourself. Ah, so do you teach any certain style?

Do you only work with acoustic? Do you do electric? Is there any sort of genres or something you stay to, or can you pretty much cover the gambit of everything? Yeah, so I don't stick with any one genre. What my background is, I started as a kid, five-dollar guitar, taught myself. You know, started with folk music.

I had one book and had Elizabeth Cotton freight train in it, so I learned that finger style. And then there's the Chet Atkins finger style. Pretty quickly was doing chord and melody. So, you know, this is still high school. I'm doing this stuff. And then classical and then jazz. And so I have done all of those things, performing and playing and teaching, but also teaching whatever other styles people want to learn.

Because the style is something you can go to whatever teacher. I mean, I say, yeah, if you want to be a great blues player, hang around great blues players and get whatever tips you can. But the learning itself and the understanding the instrument is the same as the style. That's what I learned from

teaching myself. Yeah, I mean, you know, people say, oh, you don't need a guitar teacher. Well, you know, a lot of people don't need a guitar teacher, but maybe you do. You know, I think doing guitar

or any sort of musical instrument, learning to play other people's music first and getting kind of really good at that and making it so that you can, you know, you can learn to play different styles, music first and getting kind of really good at that um and making it so that you can you know you can learn to play different styles different you know i mean a lot of guitarists have they're just different ways they go about stuff and so learning that's really important i think isn't it right and you know what you said about any instrument you know you can apply these things like my you and your guitar book people apply it to not only guitar other instruments and also other things outside of music because

it's really about how to learn probably a little bit about discipline too huh well that definitely has to figure out so it doesn't matter how how much you know about something you have to do it right you have to practice it correctly so it You have to practice it. You have to practice it correctly. So it's a commitment. It's an emotional and mental commitment to cause a time commitment. That way for everything in life, right? Definitely.

You have to, you know, no one's, there's few people that are born with talent and even then they have to work at it. Like I think it, we joked about Eddie Van Halen in the show, God Rest His Soul. But he, you know, I mean, even though he clearly had some innate talent, he still had to work hard at what he did and develop that muscle of being good at the guitar. And, of course, learning to do different things that were very innovative at the time, you know, kind of making it his style. Eventually they played a lot of covers and then

they went to his style. So how did you get, how did you, you know, learn about the guitar when you were growing up? Sounds like you got started really age at early age. And what was it that pinged you, you know, kind of made that instrument stick out to you as something that you were like, this is my

voice right here. Well, I did grow up in an era where folk music was easy. Everybody was grabbing guitars and making music. And it was cheap. As I said, my first guitar was $5. So handmade in Mexico.

And you could get a book and you could get chords. And I had taken a few piano lessons and that was okay. I think one of the things about the guitars was just so personal. So I could sit in my room it was my own thing i had two sisters i have a twin sister and another sister and it's the only time i could go up and be by myself and do something that's really really personal really nice and i think that is something that drives a lot of people in fact i think i was considering that like personal relationship you have with your guitar when i named my book, You and Your Guitar,

because I feel like what we're doing is just like a relationship. I mean, think about all the famous musicians who have actually written songs about their guitars. They name their guitars. I have the same kind of feeling. It's a deeper feeling than I had with playing a piano out in the middle of the living room, but it was more external for me.

You can hold your guitar close. There's so many things. It's a whole orchestra. You can do so many different styles on it. And, and yeah, I guess that's it really. It's just very,

very personal. There's, I guess, normal acoustic, there's electric, there's sling go, there's classical style there's uh heavy metal so many guitarists have way too many guitars like we collect guitars

each guitar has something different that adds to your music you know it's interesting i've i went through that phase where i bought a lot of guitars and there was one guitar that would just always speak to me that i could always ride on there was the other ones just just never really got any traction for me it was interesting how one guitar just i don't know and it was like some used car guitar that i bought at a pawn shop and had the pickups taken out i found i found early on a great place to get good deals on guitars pawn shops and uh yeah you can get some really nice stuff there and uh but some for some reason this jackson just and to this day i enjoy playing it and uh and stuff and for some reason any other guitar just feels unwieldy in my hands i don't

know it's kind of weird how. It's kind of weird how. You get it. Yeah. It's kind of weird how just kind of comes your voice. And like this one fits me. And it's like weird. I was watching Tony Iommi from Black Sabbath. And he was talking about a guitar that a friend just made for him amateur wise on a kitchen table one time.

And he used it for like 20 years. that's so cool yeah and i mean he's he's missing one of his fingers or at least a couple of the initial digits so he plays with like a fake digit um and you're just like holy crap he's one of the greatest guitar players ever and you know he plays this way now you have a couple offerings on your website you have tell us about some of these offerings i think there's a book and some other educational materials yeah the first thing i did i started writing books that were um sort of just learn to play guitar books so in other words we're not they're not met they're not song books.

So you don't learn the songs, but ear training theory, a beginning book, one for after that, and a column moving on, and so forth. I got six of those out, and then I wrote You and Your Guitar. And that's the big thing that I've been referring to, because it's a two-book set. It's not really where to put your fingers at all. It's about how to think and how to organize your practice and your goals. And there's a daily practice log that goes with it.

So, yeah, so that's all the materials. I have, I don't know, seven or eight books. And then I have what I call my virtual studio that has courses in it and 150, 200 lessons, audio, video, and text. And you can become a member of that super free for the first 30 days. Learn a lot in 30 days and get out if you want. So that's The virtual studio.

I mean, I offer working with people, lessons, and coaching. And the coaching goes more into this kind of stuff I'm talking about with lifting the limits. So it goes way beyond where

to put your fingers. So this is something if you are a professional musician, you might want to come to one or a series of coaching sessions to break through barriers. Or if you're not, you could just be a beginner. When I teach, I'm coaching most of the time anyway. I'm still, I'm doing those same sorts of instruction with the teaching. Teaching is what most normal guitar teachers do. But you can get that off YouTube or all kinds of places.

You don't have to teach it for that. But to learn how to teach yourself and to learn more about what's going on when you're practicing that is potentially holding you back or just halting you even. You're slowing you down or completely bringing you to a halt. And this is the stuff that I work with on a one-on-one basis. Well, that's good. So that makes your teaching pretty unique because of the way you handle it that way, right? It's completely unique.

Because, I mean, I've never seen anybody else talk about this or do it. So I see learning in like three different levels. Like the way most people think about learning an instrument is what I keep calling where to put your fingers. The nuts and bolts. Okay, here's the instrument. Here's what you do with it right the second level of learning if you've got a really good teacher will bring you into how to learn so these are like the learning tips like go slowly take small bits of the time have x number of repetitions

take breaks at certain times all those things that you can find out about from lots of books about learning. The third level, which is unique, is what's your mental and emotional state? This is going to cover a couple of things. One, it's going to cover your beliefs. So if you don't believe that you can, you know, you believe that you think, I'm tongue deaf. Okay, right now you're tongue deaf. But you don't always have to be tongue deaf. I can help you to learn how to hear, recognize, and replicate pitches correctly.

Or maybe I have no sense of rhythm. Okay, right now you don't have a sense of rhythm. That doesn't mean you're not always going to have a sense of rhythm if we go through this type of instruction or maybe i'm watching you play and i'll say oh sorry i hate to interrupt you but i just saw you lost your focus there you're thinking about the ending or you're still worried about the beginning and then you know find ways like to get in touch with when you're losing your focus when you're starting starting to self-judge instead of critique in a positive way, when you're getting tired and how to shift it. You don't have to stop practicing or playing. You have to shift your energy.

So it's a lot about your energy, your thoughts, your feelings, and your beliefs. That's the more unique part. That's what really lifts the limits is when you start to understand those things that are unique to you and then unique to that particular day, maybe even. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of challenges that go into it in the long term of it. And sometimes it's just not about practicing about the guitar. It's about the mindset.

Would you agree? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it is it is and so um you can change all of that so we know that a musician's brain is actually different from a non-musician's brain you know you're not necessarily born with your brain that way you develop it just like you develop any other area of your life or any muscle in your body so that's what limitless guitar is really helping you to do is to take the steps that will develop your brain into that of a musician ah you gotta have the right mindset for things and you gotta have the

setup right otherwise you can try and make something work. It's like, say you want to dig a ditch, and you didn't bring a shovel or a bulldozer. You brought the wrong tool to it, like, I don't know, a fork. You're probably not going to go far in the ditch digging. You don't have the right tools. So you help people provide those tools. When you call it limitless guitar what is the limitless term referred to well just what i was saying is so when you hit um

when you hit a barrier you know like i've i've been in the same space maybe i haven't progressed for two years or six months or whatever whenever you start to feel dissatisfied, that you have as you described the tools to break through that barrier. You don't say, okay, I can only go so far because I don't have a good ear. I can only go so far because I can't memorize anything. I can only go so far because my fingers are too small, too fat, too whatever. There are ways to break through any of these things that you perceive as barriers and that's the limitless and so you just

keep going up and up and up and there's no end of how far you can go with music i mean you could do everything that's ever been done and then create something new because it's a creative endeavor you know it's what i've always loved about i think i would be so bored with something that then you could get it done like no you don't ever get it done it's when it was yeah yeah most definitely i mean it's it's uh it's such a creative outlet it's interesting to me how the the guitar almost becomes a voice for some people like you look at david gilmore or just about any great guitarist i mean they're they're basically almost a lead singer with their guitar it's their voice that they're that they're amplifying out there and

and the creativity and it's kind of how they talk they talk talk through it, I guess is what I'm trying to say. So how would one of the listeners that are listening to us right now, how would they get interested in working with you and get started on some of these ideas, learning about how to be a bigger guitarist? Yeah, so I have it on my website. If you're seeing this, just go to the website. And I would click on the top menu, click on YNYG, which stands for You and Your Guitar, the two-book set, or the tab that says Start Here. Either of those.

It's going to lead you back one to the other. Okay. All right. And then you'll see what you can do with your new guitar the first thing I would do is just buy the two book set because everything is sort of under there and you might want to go ahead once you see

what else is involved you might get a package for your level or whatever but the main thing is you need to get you and your guitar get that understanding of what it is you're going to do. And then join the virtual studio. Like I said, it's three for 30 days.

So you have a very small output of money. And you're in it. You're doing it. And then you have me because you can email me. You can contact me. You can comment on the Facebook page or join the Facebook group or whatever, but I will be your teacher and your helper

and then you can sign up for lessons or coaching if you want and don't do it if you don't want and ask questions and you'll be in Limitless Guitar. Just go to the site and start here. That works pretty good. You've got a way where people can take it at their pace.

They can do it at their will. And then, of course, nowadays with webcam, like we're doing here, you know, you can talk to people over the Internet. And you can help resolve their issues. You can walk them through whatever they're doing wrong, all that good stuff. Yeah, I even have a thing that I came up with that I think is pretty cool. Say you're working on your own and you don't want to take a lesson and you don't have a lot of money that you want to pour on it, but you don't know if you're doing it right.

So you have a song and you're like, I can't even tell if I'm playing this right or not. Take a video or audio, even better, because then it's easy to send on your phone or anything. Email it to me for $25. I'll send you back all my ideas about, okay, you got an extra beat in this measure, your technique here, and give you the feedback on the song. I call it single song support.

So it can be that small or that easy. Or you can sign up. You know, I have a thing if you say you've always wanted to go to music school, but you don't want to move. And you don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars or tens of thousands. So you can do that with me. You sign up by the semester. You meet with me twice a week. You have assignments. And you don't even have to do it on guitar. It's music. I've got one guy right now doing it on

piano. Really? Yeah, it's just music. So you're learning ear training, theory, musical analysis, listening, all kinds of things, composition. So you can go from the smallest to the grand. And I'm happy to do all of it. I like variety.

Wow. Yeah. So you've been doing this for how many years teaching? 50. Holy crap. 53 years. A long time. So you've been able to work with lots of people. I think you said thousands i think didn't we say yeah i've done a lot of workshops guitar retreats one-on-one created a lot of different ways to learn so there's the you and your guitar limitless learning through self-study book and then the daily workbook journal and practice

log that's probably important to have the practice log so you can stay up on what you're supposed to be working on right did i practice today yeah okay am i gonna beat myself up no don't beat yourself up but it is you know it says uh journal um's more, it is a practice blog, which is good. But it's more for you to, there are prompts, like what inspires you? What makes you laugh? You know, like you can make notes in this, just keep everything together. And then also you can see, oh, these are my goals. How am I getting there?

You know, what are the best ways that I can get there with the next week, with the next year? um and then also you can see how these are my goals how am i getting there you know what what are the best ways that i can get there with the next week with the next year so and yeah like the prompts and um um inspirational stuff so yeah i love the daily it's really great yeah i mean if you've got to practice every day, it's kind of like riding or any other skill, man. You've got to keep that muscle flexing, and it's like going to the gym and all that good stuff. And you know what? You know, so many people don't, they resist it. And I've spent a lot of my career going, oh, that's okay.

And it is okay. I mean, it doesn't bother me if you don't practice. It's for you. But, you know, if you don't do it regularly, if you do it like the weekend athlete, well, just that phrase right there tells you what I'm going to say. You're going to have a lot of problems meeting your goals. You'll still get better, and you might enjoy it. And I'm not saying it's not okay to just play on the weekends or one or two days a week, but you're going to get the most out of it.

If you do, even if it's five or 10 minutes a day, if you do it every day, then it becomes a part of your life. It's part of your life. If you're thinking of it as external, like I've got to get to it, then you start getting guilt and that's no fun. You don't feel guilty like, oh, I have to do this. You don't have to do it. start getting guilt and oh that's no fun you don't feel guilty like oh I have to do this you don't have to do it it's for yourself it's for fun but you can establish in very few days you can establish it as a habit and then it's just like any other habit

in your life you know you brush your teeth you play your guitar but it becomes more a part of your life you think about the music through the day and you get more back from it by, by immersing yourself in it. Yeah. Practice makes perfect and staying on top of it. You talk on, I see a post here you posted about nine months ago on LinkedIn about being an intermittent guitar player where you have an on off again relationship with

your guitar. You help people stay up on it, even though they're kind of regular, I guess. Yeah. So really all of us have times when we don't play guitar. I mean, we're living real lives. Yeah. And sometimes you have life things that are difficult or you're just doing something else. You're really busy.

You started a new job. You had a baby. You had a death in the else. You're really busy. You started a new job. You had a baby. You had a death in the family. You were sick. There's all kinds of things that keep you from playing guitar, sometimes for months or years at a time. So that article is to help people how to get back into it and how to keep that from happening more than it needs to.

Yeah. I remember one of my frustrations with the guitar was especially we got new strings you'd always have to get it in tune there's that hated that they have a thing now where you can electronically you can buy a certain guitar i think it's a gibson um and they have it to where you can just tell it you dial a knob to what what uh key you want it in you know ed or whatever and uh you turn the knob and it will turn little the screws at the top for you and take it into tune you know here's the thing since i've been teaching since dinosaurs walked the earth and I have this perspective over a period of years. And I've seen people's ears deteriorate since electronic tuners came in.

They've been out for a long time. Yeah. I advise people to use your tuner, but also use your ear practice every day tuning your guitar because that's how your ear is going to get better. So there's some passive ear training things you can do yeah and also you there's a kind of crazy thing like the guitar is hard because the relationship across the strings is interrupted between the second and third strings it's like not a consistent relationship between sounds, between intervals. So it's really kind of crazy and it'll drive you nuts. But you tune, you know, the old-fashioned way every day, like relative tuning, you start to kind of get a better idea of how that tuning works and how your guitar is set up.

And you're not even thinking about it. It's like you just do this stuff and it kind of just goes into your brain easy. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. I learned, I have some sort of weird relationship with the piano and I can always tell

when the keys are out of tune and it will drive me nuts. It will. Oh, that's awesome. I don't know why I have it with the piano. For some reason, I don't know shit about the guitar if it's out of tune. I mean, I kind of do, you know, i know how to do the what is it ed afbg did i do the six right no e-d-g-b-e yeah close enough for the show yeah i'm making stuff up as i go along folks

uh no i used to i used to play guitar for regularly i don't anymore well i took up drinking no i'm just kidding yeah yeah the whole era clamped around took a no i'm just kidding don't do that folks don't do that some people some people say that drugs alcohol and rock and roll make things go better, to make people more creative. Do you find that's true after all the years you've been in the business? I find that if you're doing drugs and alcohol, you absolutely think you're better.

Well, you know, I don't know. That's what I did in my first five marriages. It seemed to work okay, I think. I wonder why you had five. So what more do people need to know as we go out on what you do and how you do it? Well, I think that the main thing is that playing guitar or playing any musical instrument, is a way to just elevate your life experience in a great way. And, you know, it connects you to other people, but you also learn a lot about yourself in a passive way while you're having fun. So the main thing is it's a lot of fun, and you can't really describe the feelings that you get from doing this. You just have to do it, man.

It's like nothing else. You just got to do it, and the deeper you go into it, the more fun you have. How do you know if you're right for the guitar, or do you feel that just about anybody can be right for the guitar, and they just have to learn the principles? Yeah. I think anybody can play the guitar and improve on have to learn the principles yeah i think anybody can play the guitar and improve on it and do well but but as far as being right for it i'm not exactly sure what that means but i think that we all have an affinity for certain things so if you're

on the guitar you should play guitar i mean don't don't let anybody stop you that's amazing don't let anybody stop you i mean i've had people who have come to me from other teachers who have said, oh, you're terrible. You'll never get anymore. And they tell their students this. I had one guy who'd been through six teachers

before he found me. Wow. Yeah. No, it's not you. It's just the way you learn. And if you have someone to help you with the way you learn,

you will play guitar and you will continue to improve and you'll have fun yeah i like your style too about having it fun you know a lot of times when you go to school and you're in band and all that stuff it they kind of make it work because you're like well i got a good grades doing this you know and it's not quite as fun as when you just like you say if you if you do something that's that's based in fun well it's fun you you tend to adhere to it and attach to it a whole lot easier and it makes a difference right look you know what it is work like you said you have a discipline but i call it good work Like when you play a game or you go skiing down the mountain, whatever, there's a hard part to it. Like you're working, you know, you're not going to get out on

a basketball court or ski down a mountain or like I say, play a game and not have some aspect of it like I'm trying, I'm working. And sometimes you're going to be uncomfortable and then you're going to break through and it's going to be awesome and you're going to want to go back and do it again. So to me, that's fun work. Right? Fun work, as it were. So as we go out, give people

the final pitch. How can they onboard with you, some of the service they can pick up, et cetera, et cetera? Well, go to my website, limitless-guitar.com. Go to my Facebook page, same. And email me. Say hello. I will say hello

back, even if you don't have any questions. I'll be glad to hear from you. I'm always glad to hear from people. If you get on my email list, I'll send you two free, inspirational, educational emails a month without any sales or anything else. You won't be on the other notes. Just interact with me.

I want to interact with people. I like that. Well, it's been fun to have you on the show and insightful. Charlotte, I'm glad you're helping the guitar business because I know it's been kind of hard for people lately in the guitar business, the guitar sellers, because a lot of people went off and been DJs. But I see a lot of women playing guitars and young kids on TikTok. And it seems like it's coming back where people want to play an acoustic sort of thing again. So I hope so, too. I grew up in the guitar era of the 70s and 80s and you know

some of the greatest rock stars known to man i i'm sure you did too uh and yeah it's uh i i kind of miss it i kind of was like what do you mean there's a dj well the guy takes records and makes him scratch like what what's going on here so he can't play if he loses his USB? Well, I'm pretty sure Jimmy Page can do just fine with his guitar, no matter where he is. He can still play, even if his USB gets lost or his laptop. So, and seeing some of the virtuosos. I've been watching a lot of Eddie Van Halen lately. That was the reason that joke came up. Alex

Van Halen's out with a bio about their experience growing up as kids and Eddie Van Halen's life and his virtuosiness. Virtuosiness? But yeah, it's been fun to watch. So thank you very much, Charlotte. Give us your.com so we go out one last time.

Thank you. It's limitless-guitar.com. Come see me. Thanks for tuning in. Go to goodreads.com, 4sayschristmas, linkedin.com, 4sayschristmas, christmas1, the tiktokity, and all those crazy places on the internet. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you next time.