The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Unlocking Health: Holistic Wellness Tips from Kimberly Verbeke

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

Unlocking Health: Holistic Wellness Tips from Kimberly Verbeke Avitabydrv.com About the Guest(s): Kimberly Verbeke is a distinguished naturopathic practitioner, health coach, and dedicated athlete specializing in holistic wellness and vitality. As the founder of Avita Wellness, Kimberly is committed to empowering individuals to reclaim their health and achieve optimal energy levels, focusing on regenerative medicine and aging well. Her passion for holistic health is driven by personal health challenges, providing her with a deep understanding and empathy for those seeking improved vitality. Episode Summary: In this impactful episode of The Chris Voss Show, host Chris Voss engages in an enlightening discussion with Kimberly Verbeke, a renowned expert in holistic wellness and regenerative medicine. Kimberly brings her expertise as a naturopathic practitioner to the forefront, sharing invaluable insights on how to enhance vitality and longevity through a holistic approach to health. This conversation revolves around practical strategies for achieving optimal health, navigating wellness challenges, and the importance of listening to one's body. The episode delves into Kimberly's journey into holistic wellness, inspired by personal health experiences that highlighted the gaps in traditional healthcare. She emphasizes the significance of treating the body as an interconnected system rather than isolated parts, advocating for lifestyle changes that contribute to a high quality of life. The discussion covers a range of topics, including the benefits of holistic food choices, the impact of toxins, and the innovative treatments available at Avita Wellness, such as peptide bio-regulators for organ regeneration and longevity protocols. By stressing the importance of taking responsibility for one's health, Kimberly encourages listeners to prioritize wellness today for a better tomorrow. Key Takeaways: Holistic Wellness: It's crucial to view the body as an interconnected system and adopt lifestyle changes for long-term health. Importance of Prevention: Prioritize wellness before major health issues arise, and incorporate healthy habits early on in life. Innovative Treatments: Avita Wellness offers groundbreaking treatments like peptide bio-regulators for organ regeneration and improved longevity. Personal Health Journey: Kimberly's personal experiences with health challenges underscore the importance of self-driven wellness. Quality of Life: Focusing on optimal energy, reducing fatigue, and chronic pain can significantly enhance life quality. Notable Quotes: "Our bodies are capable of healing if they have the raw materials." "It's not a diet. You're changing the way you're eating for the rest of your life." "A strong life starts with you." "Our healthcare is sick care, right? People aren't healthy." "My goal is to help people have a really high quality of life as they age." Resources: Avita Wellness Website Kimberly Verbeck on Instagram: @kimberlyverbeckwellness

You wanted the best. You've got the best podcast. The hottest podcast in the world. The Chris Voss Show. The preeminent podcast with guests so smart you may experience serious brain bleed. The CEOs, authors, thought leaders, visionaries, and motivators. Get ready. Get ready. Strap yourself in. Keep your hands, arms, and legs inside the vehicle at all times, because you're about to go on a monster education roller coaster with your brain. Now, here's your host, Chris Voss. Hi, folks. Chris Voss here from thechrisvossshow.com. Her voice is holding up better than I am post-COVID, but we're still alive here. After 16 years and 2,000 episodes, we're bringing you the Chris Voss Show for another 16 years,

and it's probably going to be, at the pace we go right now, it's probably going to be another 50,000 episodes. Anyway, refer the show to your family, friends, or relatives, or else don't make me pull over the car and come back over there. The podcast car is hard to stop and start, and it usually requires a lot of juice in the morning, namely coffee. So anyway, guys, go to goodreads.com, forceschrisfoss, linkedin.com, forceschrisfoss, chrisfoss1, the TikTokity, and all those crazy places that we have on the internet. Today, we have an amazing young lady on the show with us. Today, we're going to be talking to her about health, holistic wellness, and vitality, all of which I have none of. And she's going to help me understand why I need some of it in my life. Maybe so I don't get COVID again.

See what I say? You up with there, Kimberly? Kimberly Verbecky is on the show with us today. We're going to be talking to her about everything she knows so that I don't get COVID again. Kimberly is your go-to guide for holistic wellness and vitality. She's a naturopathic practitioner, health coach, and dedicated athlete. She's on a mission to empower you to reclaim your health and live your life at your highest level. And I need a lot of reclamation after COVID. She has expertise in regenerative medicine and a focus on aging well, and she's here to help you unlock

your body's natural ability to heal and thrive. Whether you're navigating toxicity issues or seeking to optimize your health as your age or dying of cold like I am, she is committed to guiding you in every step of the way. Her journey isn't just about professional expertise, it's personal too. Through her own health challenges, she has gained a deeper understanding of the journey to wellness, fueling her passion to support others on the path to vitality. Welcome to the show, Kimberly. Thank you. I'm happy to be here. We're happy to have you as well. Give us your dot coms. How can people find you on the interwebs there? Yeah. So avida-wellness.com is my website. And all the good info is there. All the good info is there.

You've probably got a lot of great ideas on how I can maybe revitalize myself. Let's get into it. Give us a 30,000 overview. I'm pushing on you like you're going to solve COVID. That's not right, Chris. Stop doing that to guests. Stop setting them up for failure. I don't think anybody, I think someone would have fixed COVID by now if it was possible.

So give us a 30,000 overview, what you do there at your website and how you help people. Yeah, so I have a clinic in Bernie, Texas. I work with people both in person and remotely to help them regain their health or to age better. I think it's something most of us are interested in. We start getting a couple years, a little mileage on the tires, and we're like, okay, this doesn't turn out how I thought it would. You know, my goal is to help people have a really high quality of life as they age. And if you're sick, help you get better. A strong life starts with you. Sounds like when Smokey the Bear used to accuse me on TV of not preventing forest fires enough. It starts with you. Sounds like when Smokey the Bear used to accuse me on TV of starting

not preventing forest fires enough. Starts with you. And I was like, me? Starts with you. Why me? What did I do wrong? So you help your clients get optimal energy, health and well-being, goodbye fatigue, illness, and chronic pain. It's time to live the life you deserve.

Tell us a little bit about you and how you got down this road, this journey, maybe the influences from childhood, starting your own business, etc., etc. Yeah. So I grew up in a very healthy home. I thought it was so boring and not cool that we didn't have processed food in our house growing up. I'm jealous. Yeah.

And then I realized how lucky I was a little bit later. But I started out working in geriatrics. I worked in a nursing home in rehab and I wanted to be a doctor, a medical doctor. And I was giving medications and shots, had to take a bunch of pharmacology classes, learn about drug interaction. And I was like, whoa, wait a second. Maybe this isn't what I want to do and it was just such an eye-opening experience at a young age to see you know we're great at emergency medicine here in the U.S. but boy our our health care is sick care right people aren't healthy if you look at the statistics, they're kind of staggering. The average man retires around 62. From 62 to death, an average couple spends about $300,000 on health care. Holy crap. Seriously? Yeah.

Yeah. Not health care, though. That's like being sick. And it sucks. Being sick sucks, as you well know. Yeah. sucks as you well know yeah you know my goal is to help people get healthy stay healthy and live a long life but with a high quality because you know most of us aren't interested in hanging around if somebody has to feed us or push us in a wheelchair or change our diaper it's just you know not my

envision for my future yeah it's not fun my sister has ms and she's had the really bad there's two versions and she's had the bad disability one and now she has dementia at care center and i can't i can't imagine living that way and you know it's it's it's tough but that's that's extraordinary i've kind of always wondered what that figure is when when people kind of hit that age where everything starts you know breaking down that in-parting that you did when you were young. Was that just me or was that everyone else? It was just you. It was just me.

I lived in Vegas for 20 years. Give me a break. So give me a break, people. They're like, yeah, he did live in Vegas for 20 years. Anyway, what are some of the services that you offer on Avito Wellness and Aesthetics website there? So we do a whole bunch of different things. We do a lot of IV therapy, all sorts of stuff, like probably some, you know, non-typical things that you'd be like, what, what's that? You know, all of it geared around helping people heal, feel great, prolong quality of life, enhance your longevity.

We do things, we do some really fun things. Like I have a longevity protocol that I am so stoked about. It's actually not my protocol. There's a doctor in Russia that spent over 40 years clinically studying something called peptide bioregulators. And they are an epigenetic switch, right? They cross the cellular and nuclear membrane, which means they combine to the DNA without getting too technical. And they can retread the tire, so to speak. A doctor here in the US that studied under him and worked with him

did a really great job of doing a simple explanation, and he said, these regulators repair the repair systems in our body. It's easy enough to understand, right? Really just kind of a cool, you know, high level view. They're science backed longevity boost, targeted organ regeneration. They're natural. They're safe. They help us age without declining.

And there's proven results. I test with true diagnostic tests at the beginning of the year. And at the end of the year, it's a 12 month protocol. And we look at DNA methylation and telomere length and, and you can actually see what it's, what it's doing for you. Oh, wow. I mean, that's really important to, you know, the regenerative stuff in your body, liver, kidneys, you know, those are, those are helpful from what I hear. Sometimes. Sometimes I know it's working working out but it turns out if you're whether dumping lots of vodka like i did for 20 years but yeah is i'm surprised i'm still around

after all the partying and fun that i had i had a lot of fun but now i'm 56 and my body's going yeah remember that fun you had we have a bill for you it's gonna hurt it's gonna hurt it's gonna hurt your wallet it's gonna hurt your butt and it's gonna hurt everything everything is gonna hurt it's the new thing i'm just like wow i just can't wait yeah yeah it's it's fun i mean you know peeing 10 times a night i mean who don't you miss those days? I don't know about you. Who doesn't want to get up all night to go to the bathroom? Oh, yeah. Lose a lot of sleep.

You can't get back to sleep when you go back to bed. Yeah. I remember the days when I could sleep for eight hours straight without getting up. And you're just like, I'd kill for that to come back. And I've been doing a lot of murdering, but it still hasn't fixed it. Anyway, there's people knocking at the door. We'll ignore them for now. That's a joke.

People don't write me So you have all these different things you do in your services you have the wellness the aesthetics health planning longevity protocol That's always good. You know, it's kind of comes down to quality of life, doesn't it? I mean things are gonna go wrong as we age and so really it's kind of trying to preserve a quality of life that you know still makes it so we want to i don't know go to vegas every week and do i don't know lose that as call back show it's not something i promote on my website it's not on the website then don't don't be you're gonna get you're gonna start getting. How does this work now? Anyway, so you, you, you do these services. Why, why did you pick this business?

How long did you start it? So I have been at the location I'm at now for about four years. I've been working with people for about nine years. You know, I picked it partly based on personal experience. I had some health stuff happen and was so freaking frustrated because I couldn't seem to get help. And I realized I was going to have to figure it out myself. Yeah. And through a lot of digging, found a doctor that helped me. But a lot of the pieces I had

to put together myself. And it made me so aware that there's you know just kind of a shortage of practitioners that that are really tuned into functional medicine and treat the body as one whole unit instead of these individual pieces because guess what it's all connected it's all connected you know i i i think it was in. I was probably close to 400 pounds. I was miserable. I was drinking 10 to 15 Mountain Dews a day with vodka at night, probably with a Mountain Dew mixer, which is just, I look back on it. I'm just like, that is the grossest thing.

And I was gross then too. But, you know, I mean, if you're at a mixer, you're at a mixer, man. That's how it works. And so I would take and, you know, I mean, if you're at a mixer, you're at a mixer, man. That's how it works. And so I would take and, you know, eat. I was eating out all the time. Horrible, horrible diet. Yada, yada, yada. And then I read.

And I just kind of reached a breaking point. I was like, I'm tired of feeling like shit all the time. And it's probably this damn. Anyway, don't do folks. That's a joke. And I was like, I just want to stop. And fortunately I got lucky and Penn Jillette of, of the magic duo in Vegas had written a book called Presto.

And part of his compadre was a guy that I was later introduced to called Cray Ray or Ray Cronize, but he's Cray Ray is probably more appropriate. He's a great guy, but he's crazy, but he can help you lose weight. And so I immediately started changing my life based upon some of the book. And part of it was a mental game that I had to do. I had to change a lot of my idiot rules about food and eating and, you know, just games that I would play with my mind to substantiate eating horribly, drinking horribly, and being awful to my own body. And I started losing two to three pounds a day, sometimes four.

Like I was 400 pounds. So it was crazy to start losing. Even now I can lose two pounds. I think I lost two pounds yesterday, the day before. We're calling that the COVID diet though. Do you recommend it? No, not at all. Not at all. But I mean, if you lose one of your kidneys from COVID, that's three pounds right there. I don't

know. Whatever. But I started eating. I started eating salads. I cut out the Mountain Dew. I didn't, unfortunately, cut out the vodka until 2020. But I just started eating right and being holistic. Listen to my body. I started eating. I basically became veganese i call it because if i call it anything else than vegans and they're 150 different variations start writing the show so i called it veganese i just started eating salads and broccoli and and trying to figure out how to season it and i started learning that you know if you season it right it's actually pretty tasty right you just you know you can't just I mean I can eat broccoli straight now and so I just learned that eating right and being healthy and I'm like wow I feel better I lost 100 pounds in four months

I pissed off everybody on Facebook because I was using it as a daily accountability thing and posting my weight loss and women are like how are you losing three to four pounds a day don't you have any hormones and i'm like no i'm a man anyway they were there's a lot of women that were really angry women don't appreciate that yeah they don't rub it in our faces i wasn't trying to rub it in his face i was just using it as accountability because i'm like if i because i would be like okay i want to go eat like burgers and fries and milkshakes and and since we're using that as a callback joke on the show but i don't want to but you know i know that i got to post my weight tomorrow on facebook so i use it as accountability groups you know i was doing there and and i inspired a lot of other people there's a lot of people that still to this day will be like

oh my god yeah i remember that time you did that. And I was like, yeah. And you know, they inspire people to lose weight. So yeah, I, I learned that eating better. And then 2020, my body was just like, Hey, you three beers will give you a hangover. Have fun with that for three days. And I started feeling the bloating that would come from, you know, you, you add water when you drink to offset that hydration. Cause your body's like, is he going to keep drinking? And you know, I started learning that a couple hours on Friday night,

throwing back some booze turned into three days of just bloating pain. And then you'd have to, you'd let out all that water you put on. And I just drag. And my body, you know, the message from my body is really clear. If you want to keep doing this bullshit, fuck you. We're not doing it with you. And so we're just going to make it really miserable for you. And so I just quit.

I just quit drinking. And I love it. The only thing that sucks about it is people think I had a problem. They're like, oh, you want people to have a problem? I'm like, no, not really. I just got tired of feeling like shit. But learning to listen to your body and all that stuff is important. Yeah, if you don't drink in the U.S.,

you're like, what's wrong? People are like, what's wrong with you? Oh, are you in AA? Yeah, it's worse when I'm in Utah because they all think I'm Mormon. And I'm like, I'm not Mormon. When you tell them your reasoning, you're like, I just got tired of feeling like shit. They just look at you and be like, yeah, you had a problem.

You probably had the police wearing one of those things where they said you have to change your... Stabilizer. Yeah, those things. Start your car. But no, I can totally validate the message of living holistically, listening to your body, health planning. You know, I started looking at the end game of my life. You know, 2020, one of the things you talk about on your website or you have there is longevity protocol.

And, you know, when you're immortal as a young person, it's only for a limited time and you feel like, you know, I'm going to live forever and everything's fine. And then you get 40 and stuff starts falling off your body. You're like, hey, we need that arm. Can we sew the back on? And so I just started looking at it. And then when COVID hit, this is the reason I quit alcohol, too,

on top of that. When COVID hit, I realized that all the materialistic shit and stuff I was doing in life was not, was like, who cares? Like, who do I, who do I have left in my life? The people I love in my life can be taken in a second. So my priorities really changed. And then I had this awakening that I realized that I was in the third or fourth quarter of my life. You know, my dad lived to 74, 75. I'm doing much better than he is health-wise at my stage. Um, but you know, there's no guarantees, but it kind of put a benchmark for me of where his marker was. And I, I'm like, wow, I'm 53 at the time, 52 at the time in 2020,

I'm 56 now. I'm in the, I'm in the last quarter, the third quarter ending of my life, you know? And so I'm at a fuck around time and it's time to kind of plan this end game. You know, you know, Bill Belichick does with the Patriots, you know, at the end when you're trying to come back and stuff. Hail Mary. Hail Mary. I'm trying to Hail Mary pass it at the end. You know, having a longevity plan and all that good stuff is really important because, you know, it gets weird at the end.

Yeah, I mean, hopefully it doesn't. But it definitely, you know, from what I've seen, it gets real weird when people, you know, I've got a younger lady that comes to see me and she came in one day and she's, I feel terrible. And I'm like, all right, what's going on? And she's, you know how you told me to treat my body like a temple? I've been treating it more like a frat house. That sounds like what I was doing. I was dying. I'm like, okay, at least you're honest. I treat mine like a meth lab. Only I ever did meth. Don't do meth, people. Keep your teeth. Yeah, there's a lot of don't do that on the show today.

Tell us about the longevity protocol that you have. Looks like it does some different things to improve organ function. It does. You know, I started out, so those are the peptide bioregulators. And I started out kind of using them onesie twosie. I had a lady come to see me that had blood cancer, but she had been put on some medication that damaged her kidneys. And she was told that there was nothing that could be done. Her kidneys were just damaged. Do you know of

anything that might help? And I was like, I do. Let's give this a shot. And long story short, I mean, I was wildly surprised in a very short amount of time. Her nephrologist ordered new labs. She went to see him and he was like, what's going on? And she's, I don't know, you tell me. You told me my kidneys couldn't get any better. And he's, I don't have anything that'll do this. And I've seen some really, just really cool stuff. I mean, our bodies are capable of healing if they have the raw materials. And yeah, I mean, these bioregulators help go in and regenerate the organs, different systems of the body, the endocrine system, vascular system. And there's science to back up. For every year that people take them, they typically see about a seven-year decrease in their biological age.

So that's pretty powerful stuff when you think there's not a lot of things that you see that with. You're right. It is amazing how the body heals. I started testosterone treatment in November and so they run all sorts of tests on me to make sure that's working right. But you know, they're testing all my other vitals and I remember the first time they came back with a test, I was like dreading it because I'm like the 20 years of vodka, right? And food and being heavily overweight. And, and they were like, yeah, you're, you're amazingly healthy. I were like yeah you're you're amazingly healthy i was like

you sure you got the test in the right person that's something that's somebody switched out as somebody else my cholesterol is fine everything's fine i'm like i'm like keith richards of rolling stones or something evidently and now isn't he wild yeah i mean for a guy who's been around for 2 000 years i mean he was yeah he was in Jesus' band most people know that. He was hanging out with them. He was the guy who was really into the water and the wine crap.

I agree. Yeah. And so, yeah, it can make all the difference. Tuning into your body, listening to it, I wish I'd taken better care of my body.

I wish I'd taken better care of the ride, paid more attention you know for so many years i think i was like a lot of people so many decades i was like a lot of people where you're just working hard you're being an entrepreneur you're trying to make money trying to live your life trying to probably provide for family and kids and you're kind of like ah the health thing i put that off off later. I'll go to the gym later. I'll go, you know, get healthier later. You know, I got some room to move there.

I got a few decades. And then all of a sudden, you know, it's knock, knock, knock. Hey, your 50s are here. Where's the bill? Here's the bill. And you're like, hey, can we keep putting that off? And they're like, nope, it's due now. Yeah.

You have plenty of time to pay and collection is here. Yeah. And we want like a pound of flesh or a couple pounds. Yeah, you're not wrong. You are not wrong. I see this often. So please, people, take care of yourself at a younger age. Now, it looks like here on the website, you guys also have some things to help people with Lyme disease.

I know we've had a lot of Lyme disease docs on the show. That's always a hell of a thing to have to deal with because you never know what's coming out. It's almost like MS sometimes. It can give people some really wild symptoms, right? They'll come in and they'll be like, I've got these weird things going on. And I'm, you know, usually you can put it together and figure out that it's a solid chance it's Lyme. You know, there's Lyme that's, you know, part of the country we're in. We see a lot of people with mold toxicity. We see, you know, just all sorts of environmental toxins,

things that make people just feel really crappy and they don't know what it is, right? They don't have any idea. And then you start digging deeper, start asking questions, kind of figure out what direction you think it's going, do some testing and get some answers for them so they know. And I think half of the time,

people are just like so grateful to have an answer because they're like, I've been told for the last five years, every time I go to my doctor, they're like, yeah, you're fine. I can send you for some SSRIs, but you're depressed. They're like, I'm not depressed. I don't feel good. So that's fun. So do people have to go to your clinic there in Texas or can they tell a doc with you? How does that work? It depends on what they want to do, right? If they're, if they have some pretty gnarly stuff going on,

IV therapy is so powerful. You can just make a massive amount of traction with someone by, by using things intravenously. But I have a lot of people that I work with remotely, the longevity protocol, I can do all remotely. So that's pretty cool. You know, I've got a mix of mix of both. I have people that are referred to me from other people that have come see me. I just had a guy in from Oregon, a lady from Florida, and they'll come in and spend two or three weeks and do some intensive IV therapy and then go back and we'll do everything else remotely for the rest of their treatment plan. Oh, wow. Lots of IV therapy. Now, I noticed there's an application on the website. So,

when people want to know more or handshake with you, find out how they can, if it's fit and what services, probably for whatever their particular ailment is, they can fill out that form and get more information. They can, or they can just book in on my calendar if they want to have a conversation and ask questions. Sometimes people are like like i just have questions i want to i want to see if this is the right fit for me and i'm like let's talk yeah i would you recommend that you know i i said earlier about you know take care of yourself when you're younger people don't be like chris voss don't that's true that's a true never be like chris voss you know don't wait till you're in your deathbed and parts are falling off and you're like where's this bleeding coming from it's been here for a week you know that sort of

thing don't don't do that take care of yourself early if i could go back and talk to my younger self i would i would be like please don't put on weight don't eat that don't put that in your mouth that taco bell and mcdonald's and and you know i was a young entrepreneur and I was living my life 18 hours a day, you know, burning the thing at both end of the candles, whatever, multiple companies. And, and I just, I started eating poorly, eating fast food and I was just like, oh, I'll make up for it later. You know, now I go to the gym almost daily. I actually enjoy the gym.

I mean, the biggest thing I missed during COVID was going to the gym. Like it was just insufferable for me. Yeah. And my muscles actually kind of hurt. They'll be like, Hey, we're atrophying dummy. Seriously. My body will just, my muscles would be like, Hey man, we, we, you missed the gym. Like what the hell go. And so now I feel so much better. I go to the gym. I feel like a million bucks when I come out of there, sometimes a little beat up, but, you know, I still feel really good, and I stand taller, and my shoulders are spread,

and I just kind of feel, you know, more confident and more like a human being, you know, and sometimes I will go in there, you know, looking like the hunchback of Notre Dame, and I'm just, like, crawling in the door, and I'm like, welcome back, Mr. Voss. The massage chairs are in the back, and they'll get you patched up. Go sit in those for about 30 minutes and then go out and start lifting.

Yeah. Yeah. Eating right, holistic foods, healthy stuff, live foods, you know. Now everything I buy is from local farms here in Utah. I love it. So my food is pretty good. I still go out and eat a little bad every now and then. But I try to keep it to one a day or every other day.

But I intermittent fast. Intermittent fasting is a big thing for me. I live on coffee. No, I did a sniff there. That was funny. That's the COVID people. What else have we talked about about services and stuff you offer on your website to your clients? You know, I do just some one-off stuff.

But, you know, my goal is always to get people to the next level of health. So I do a lot of 6- and 12-month plans with people to help them get traction, you know. Stay on traction. Absolutely. Because I always tell them, look, this work is only as good as you sticking with it. Like it's not a diet. You're changing the way you're eating for the rest of your life. If you're doing it as a diet, good luck. You're going to be back in this boat in a couple of years, getting people to understand like our bodies were made to move,

go move. And when people tell me they don't have time, you know, I'm like, you got to make time. Figure it out. I had somebody tell me the other day, she's like, it's really hard. My kids are young. I'm like, put your kids on their bikes and just go a mile with them. It's not that hard, but you're going to be teaching them good habits for life. You're teaching them that it's important to take care of yourself. You're getting them some movement. They've been sitting in school all day. Like

we all, I believe we all have time. We make time for the things that are important to us. And I know for me, like it's kind of a joke, but you know, I have a lot of people that, that come to see me regularly. Like I have a lot of, a lot of older people that come in regularly for IVs and things. And they know like my mornings are for working out and getting it done because sometimes the rest of the day gets crazy and I can't take care of other people if I'm not healthy. And it's, it's not just me, it's everyone. You know, people will say, it's really important to me to be healthy for my family. Great. Go move your body. That's part of me. It's everyone. People will say, it's really important to me to be healthy for my family. Great.

Go move your body. That's part of it. Oh, yeah. Totally. You got to prioritize that stuff. And eating well, all that sort of good stuff is so important. It's just such a thing that you just have to do. And live foods, the nutrients that are in them and they just make all the difference.

So as we go out, tell people how they can onboard with you, reach out on your show or reach out on to your program, uh, dot coms, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah.

So my website is a Vita and that's a V is in Victor. I T a dashness.com. You can find me on Instagram under KimberlyRebeccaWellness. Those are probably the two easiest places to get a hold of me. You can book right in for an appointment through my website. Yeah, I'm always happy to answer questions. And if I'm not right for you, happy to point you in the right direction. I'm all about people living a high

quality life and that starts with us taking responsibility for our own health. Awesome, Sauce. Definitely. Do it now, people. Please don't be like Chris Voss. Thank you very much for coming to the show, Kimberly. We really appreciate it. Absolutely. Thanks for having me, Chris. I appreciate it. And thanks for my audience for tuning in. Go to goodreads.com, 4chesschrissvoss, linkedin.com, 4chesschr Chris Voss, LinkedIn.com 4Chess Chris Voss. I know it's a crazy place on the internet. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you next

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