The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Unlocking Intuition: Discover Your Inner Wisdom with Kathy Knowles

Episode Date: November 22, 2025

Unlocking Intuition: Discover Your Inner Wisdom with Kathy Knowles Intuitivestrategies.com About the Guest(s): Kathy Knowles is a seasoned speaker, certified coach, trainer, and spiritual guide with a rich background in human resources. With over 25 years of experience as a Vice President of HR, Kathy transitioned from corporate executive roles to entrepreneurship and intuitive coaching. She is dedicated to helping individuals align their spiritual and human experience, fostering personal growth and deeper connections with oneself. Kathy is also an author and nature enthusiast who advocates for integrating mindfulness and intuition in both personal and professional spheres. Episode Summary: Join Chris Voss on an insightful journey as he delves into the world of spiritual coaching and intuitiveness with his guest, Kathy Knowles. In this episode of The Chris Voss Show, Kathy shares her remarkable transition from a successful corporate career in HR to becoming a spiritual coach helping individuals connect with their intuitive selves. Drawing from her own transformative experiences, Kathy discusses the importance of listening to one's inner voice and the power of intuition in guiding life decisions. Discover how she assists clients in harnessing their intuitive abilities to foster personal growth and fulfillment. Throughout this comprehensive discussion, Chris and Kathy explore the concept of intuitiveness, breaking down its various aspects, including knowing, feeling, and seeing. Kathy shares anecdotes from her life and career that illustrate the profound impact of being attuned to one's inner guidance system. With practical advice, Kathy illuminates the path to accessing one's higher self, encouraging listeners to embrace solitude, meditate, and create mental space for reflection. Whether you're on a quest for spiritual enlightenment or seeking practical strategies for personal development, this conversation is packed with wisdom and actionable insights. Key Takeaways: Harnessing Intuition: Kathy reveals how intuition manifests through knowing, feeling, and sensing and discusses how individuals can become more attuned to their intuitive abilities. The Power of Presence: Emphasizes the significance of being present in the moment, as it can foster deeper connections with oneself and spark intuitive insights. From Corporate to Coaching: Shares personal experiences of leaving a corporate HR career to follow her intuition, highlighting the challenges and rewards of such transitions. Navigating Life's Challenges: Demonstrates how intuitive practices can help individuals navigate life's challenges by finding peace and clarity. Integration of Spirit and Humanness: Explains the concept of integrating spiritual awareness with everyday human experiences for a balanced and fulfilling life. Notable Quotes: "We all have our intuition, and it guides us, whether in personal life or business." "It's really being in a place where you're feeling it or you're knowing it or seeing it, and saying, wow, what is this?" "It's almost, again, talking about vibrational frequency. Our vibration is drops so low that we're in that place of deep sadness." "When you're in that space of curiosity and asking these types of questions, there's just wisdom." "It's making peace with silence and using it as a tool to listen and find answers."

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And any, guys, we have an amazing young lady on the show. Kathy Knowles joins us today. She is a speaker, certified coach, trainer, spiritual maven, and also a woman, a mother, a daughter, a sister, a friend, and as always a nature lover. It's good to love nature because without nature, I don't think we exist. She has lived many lives inside this one. She's been a single mom, a divorcee, a corporate executive, business owner.

In each of this role, she gave it her all. She did everything right, at least according to everyone else, but still, something was missing. I think a lot of us get to that point in life. She felt overwhelmed, exhausted, disconnected, like she was living on autopilot. Yeah, I think we all feel that sometimes. So she took in look for the truth that was longing to feel more like herself. not just who she was to others, but who she was in her essence. Her soul deep, intuitively alive, and spiritually grounded, and free that she could achieve.

In 2022, everything began to shift. She stopped chasing and started listening. She began the journey of becoming fully herself, integrating spirit and humanness, not separating them. And that's why she's here to share intuitiveness and learning from what she's achieved in her life from her. Welcome to the show, Kathy. How are you? thank you so much chris i'm doing great how are you i am excellent and it's wonderful to have you kathy kathy give us your dot coms where can people find you on the interwebs absolutely

so my website is intuitive strategies dot com i'm on facebook intuitive strategies as well as instagram intuitive strategies there's a lot of intuitiveness to some of these things here and And this seems to be your special sauce or your juice. Is that correct? That's correct, yes. The special sauce, because it's not a big Mac without the special sauce, I think. But that's a different thing. Yeah, I must be hungry or something.

What's going on? You must be. It must be lunchtime over there. It actually is. I know. Kathy, talk to us a little bit about a 30,000 overview of what you do, how you do it, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, so I work with clients that are in the space where, they know that something else is going on within them, and they can't really detect or completely understand what that is.

Now those are the demons? Yes, maybe. Sometimes it's demons, and sometimes it's not. It can be a lot of very interesting and curious things going on, and yet they're not really coming in complete understanding of what it is that they're getting, the frequencies, the, words, whatever that may be. Maybe you just had kind of a feeling, kind of like what we talked about in your bio, that, you know, things are just, I don't feel happy, maybe. Things are off.

I don't feel complete, maybe. That's exactly it. It's that there's something off. There's something I'm missing. There's something that I feel unplugged from. Mine is definitely a Big Macs right now. Yeah. Sorry to interrupt you.

That's fine. So you help people achieve this. Now, let's talk about your story. And Intuitous, like we said, is your special sauce. How did you discover what intuitiveness is and why was it the factor that you didn't know you were looking for, but maybe you found it, you know, basically? Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting because I have.

had it at one point, and then it just completely went away, and then it came back. And so for me, 2001, which was a long time ago, as we can tell, it was a really rough year. My, yeah, my oldest son was leaving to go into the Coast Guard. My puppy passed away. She was only four. Oh, no. My mother had leukemia. She passed away. And of course, 9-1-1 happened. So it was a rough year. And what had happened was the year after that, my mother's brother passed away.

And they were both young. My mom was 63 and my uncle Gary was 61. And shortly thereafter, I began to feel different things. And I couldn't really, I didn't label, I didn't know. I had no clue what it was, and it's okay, I have to start having a little less wine kind of thing, right? And then all of a sudden, one evening I was in the bathtub, and I'm sitting there, and my mom and Uncle Gary came in. They were right there. Like, I could see them.

I could feel their energy. I could feel their happiness. They were just standing there holding hands. and it felt so loving. And I knew I'd never seen anything like that before. And I said, okay, something's happening. I'm on a path, right? And then that's when everything really started to open up for me.

I started to have crazy, crazy lucid dreams, you know, a lucid dream where my husband would be sound asleep, the bedroom would be black, but yet I knew I needed to keep my eyes closed. because it, you know, messages were coming in, things were coming in, you know, I, yeah, just a lot of really amazing and remarkable things. And I found a teacher and I said, hey, wait a minute, I can do what she does. And then I really started to work with clients around 2005. And yeah, it was a wonderful experience. So that's how my intuition first woke up.

that was the beginning of it then I lost it again for a while was it when you did when you say you lost it was it maybe you weren't listening as much or I could do the ironic joke maybe you just weren't being intuitive enough maybe weren't listening you know because a lot of these a lot of these talents that we have or skills that we develop you know there's a bit of tuning that you have to focus on yeah yeah yeah And for me, I was thinking, I think that I was doing, so I, first of all, I was doing it exactly the way my teacher had taught me, right? And it was, it was her way. It wasn't my way. And when she passed away, her husband came to me and asked me if I would take over a portion of her business. And that was a portion where she did a lot of traveling around the United States. And I, you know, he said, you have to leave corporate. I was a human resource. I was VP of human resource. And I said, you know, I'm ready to leave corporate anyway. Sorry, and get out of corporate. And so I did and I hated doing it. I did it for about two or three

years and I just felt so stuck and intuitive, but I wasn't using it, I guess, my way, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't fun. It wasn't exciting. It wasn't any of those things. It was just this over and over again. Yeah. And then in 2017, I decided to walk away from that and get into my corporate HR side again.

Career changes over and over again. No, you worked in HR before that? Did you have a lot of experience in that? Yes. I was a VP of HR. And so I have probably 25 years experience in human resources. And it's a fun. you know, I did. I absolutely loved it. I enjoy people. So, of course, when you enjoy people,

HR comes pretty easy to you, which it did. Yeah. Yeah. Enjoying people, that's unfortunate you did that. I know. Have you seen people lately? No, I'm just kidding. People are wonderful. They give me hope in life. And so how do you define intuitive, being intuitive? What is this skill? Flesh this out for and lay a foundation and how you define it. And, you know, it's a big word, intuitive, three syllables. I think most Gen Zers don't know what that, anything beyond three, two or something. I'm teasing them. So, intuitive comes to us in many different ways, right?

It can come to us. So first, for me, I had a very strong knowing, like I would just know things. Even when I worked in corporate HR, I could talk to someone on the phone. who lived in a whole other state and just know he was a person we're going to hire to lead this part of the organization, right? This division. And

I just knew that. I didn't think anything of it. I just thought it was because I've been in HR for so many years that it's just the way it works. And then I started to realize that's not the way it works. And then as I would talk to my clients, I would hear or feel

their intuitive aspects of them. Right? Because first for me, I just knew things. Then the second thing that really started to develop for me was feeling. Like I feel things very deeply inside of myself. And I also see things. It's not unusual for me to see a bright blue light, to see I can be, you know, working with someone and I can physically see a client's animal or a client's how they are in the, like how they are in the workplace. I can, I can, they give me insights on all of that.

Oh, really? Yeah. So when I work with my clients, it's, you know, really kind of tapping into what is their strongest intuitive point or intuitive asset. And how can they wake that up? And the beautiful gift is, as you wake up one, you wake up the second and you wake up the third. And, you know, I have a sense of smell.

Usually it's really stinky things, though, like cigars and stuff. But I do. I have a sense of smell. And yeah. So it's really beautiful the way it opens for you when you play. Wow. That's pretty amazing. You know, there's intuitiveness in being able to seek things out. I think, I don't know if I have the same definition as you do. You tell me, I don't, I haven't really given much thought to it. But having intuitiveness of knowing, you know, sometimes what you're searching for and you can. can't find it, but you're searching and you're doing the work to find it. And knowing there's moments in your life that can be huge change moments where you're intuitive and you go, I think I should go down this path. And being able to identify successful things, there are times when in my companies, you know, I'd be looking for some sort of fix or something and I would be, you know, pulling from my group of people. And I'd just be like, you know, here's the,

idea I'm looking for, here's the concept of what I'm looking for, I'm looking to solve this problem, does anybody have an idea? And I can, I'm weird that I usually know what I'm looking for, but I don't know what I'm looking for. But by polling people and, and having intuitiveness of what is probably a good idea or a bad idea, and also knowing that my ideas aren't always great, I've been able to kind of plumb the ether, if you will, I guess, maybe I'm just making up terms now where I can try and pull stuff or you know some people call it manifesting or attracting me it's just it's just doing the work and listening and being aware and being watchful and when that moment comes up you're like hey that's it that's the answer

I've been looking for sometimes it comes from your own intuitiveness and your subconscious mind sometimes it comes from others you know a simple example is I was I was looking for a great name for a mortgage company because they'd all been taken back in the day. And we couldn't figure out one. And there was all the good ones were taken and everything else. And so we were going to call our mortgage company. I finally, I just came up with a name that was available and it was started with an A. So it was at the beginning of the Yellow Pages list. This is the Yellow Pages stays where you named your company something with A so you could be at the top. Early Google SEO. Yeah, primitive. But so I came with Ace Mortgage. And this is in the

state of Utah, which is not, they don't do gambling with their cult. And it turns out that was really bad. For the first month, we were just eating it over the name. People were complaining about the ace, is this a gambling thing? No, and for me, Ace was a flying ace. I would build as kids of these models from World War II. And so I thought of it as an ace flyer sort of thing. People saw it as a gambling thing, no matter what I do. We couldn't get out of it. And so I had to be in tune enough for 30 days to be able listen to my customers and go, this isn't catching with them. They don't like it. It's negative. And so I sat around for several days with my staff and we're bouncing names off. And of course, most of the names are taken. And one guy said part place mortgage.

And I was like, boom, that's it. Yeah, I mean, part place more, you know, monopoly mortgage. I was like, boom, sure enough, it hadn't been taken. And so I, and at the moment he said it, I was like, boom, that's the idea I'm looking. That's the thing I've been plumbing the ether for. And in fact, I went down and registered that name. And two weeks later, we got a notification. We, you know, we bought the business cards and the signs and all that shit. And within 30 days, we changed the name of the company.

And people loved it. And the problem was, we got this message from the, business bureau that said hey someone came and beat you that same day to the name you can't use that name and i was going to my first thought was oh fuck yeah whatever okay that makes sense all right let's come up with another name but the little intuitiveness said you know you should look into this yeah and just that listening that little small voice and so i did turns out they had shown up half an hour after us that same day with the same name but they had registered after us because i was sitting there thinking I was standing at the window when it opened that morning. I was waiting at the

window. So how did someone beat me? And so those are some examples of intuitiveness. And we ended up getting the name awarded back to us. Good. Yeah. Let's see those voices helps. Yeah, it does. And like I said, the feelings, like, is it in your gut? Is it in your heart? Are you feeling something in your throat? All parts of your body, you're picking up all of these vibrational frequencies, right? constantly. They're constantly coming at us. So it's really being in a place where you're feeling it or you're knowing it or seeing it or whatever and saying, wow, what is this? Let me just slow down enough to bring it in and really acknowledge what this is that I'm getting because there's so much power to it. So much power. It's really a gift. It is a complete gift. Yeah, and learning to listen, a lot of times, sometimes our subconscious minds, I think, your conscious minds are trying to tell us something, your subconscious minds. Like, hey, man, this isn't working for you.

Are you paying attention to what's going on here? And that could be really important because you can listen for things that go in your life. You know, I do a lot of quiet stuff from time to time. I go out in the yard with my dogs and read Marcus Aurelius, Meditations. And sometimes I don't spend a lot of time reading. I'll just grab something random out of it, and I'll read a paragraph or two, and then I'll just kind of ponder, sit there in nature, and just kind of enjoy things. I do a thing where usually I go day-tromping with my cameras and do photography. Nice.

And so I just wander, looking for moments. Yes. And it gives me a lot of time to slow down and stay. I think what I'm trying to get to is having certain moments where you can be present, and you're not lost in thinking about the past. than worrying about the future. Being present in the moment is a great seeding for intuitiveness, I think. It really is. And it's, and, you know, being present in that moment, it's, it's another form of meditation, right? Because a lot of my clients say, oh, I can't meditate, forget it, I'm not going to sit there. You don't have to sit there. You know, one person that I love dearly

is Technahan. And he's so, he's past, but, you know, it's so remarkable about the walking meditation. And just really being in the space where you're just really honoring, this is where I am right now. And let's turn this into a form of moving meditation. And it's, it's wonderful. And another great thing people can do, too, is just, you know,

if they even have a challenge, being in that moment of, you know, being able to just go outside and be in that energy and really take it in, just breath, just breathe in four, hold for seven, release, mouth open for eight. And next thing you know, once you become accustomed to that, you do that one or two times and you're right where you want to be. Oh. Yeah.

There you go. So you do work, talked about how you apply this in working with clients, coaching them. and some of the different things you offer on your website? So I, you know, I do work on the intuitive side. I teach people how to be more intuitive and open up to that. And I also work with clients on the HR side. And that really is all about building strong and powerful teams and allowing them to increase their intuition as an individual or as a whole corporation. So when I work with my clients, it really is being in that space where we're just constantly, it's being open.

and curious and having fun and just experimenting, right? It's like just we talked about about the breath or about being in the energy of the movement of outside and just being in that where you can really take it in. It's knowing and honoring, you know, your vagus nerve and allowing it to align with yourself so that you constantly understand where your energy is, right? Is your frequency lower? Are you, you know, are you vibrating at a space of fear or anger or shame or guilt? Or are you truly vibrating from the space of love and compassion?

Like, where is your vibrational frequency? Because that matters. Yeah. You know, you can't go from a place of feeling shame or guilt and get yourself all the way up to love. That doesn't happen immediately. So what are the steps that you need to take to get yourself there? What does that work like? What does that feel like?

And it just really is playing with that curiosity. Yeah. Yeah. And curious, being curious is really important. I remember back when I was younger in my entrepreneur days, I read, excuse me, I think it was Anthony Robbins book. And he talked about the power of asking questions. Yeah.

And how that really opens up innovation, how that can open. open up intuitiveness like we talked about today. And it really, it really changed my life because I learned that ask questions. You know, I was asking questions my staff. How do we come up with a better name? How do we do this? You know, plumbing the universe, being grateful. There's kind of a gratefulness to it where you're humble and you go, you go, hey, I don't have all the answers. Let's try and find them. Yeah. People, what's that old Dunning Krueger thing? People that think they know the answer and have a high confidence they're right or use the people wrong and the people who who have a knowledge that they have not mastered something and it takes you know 10,000 hours

or something in that yeah to master something you know and so asking questions is important like why do I feel the way I feel am I happy am I happy uh uh do I need a Big Mac it was special song I'm so hungry evidently yeah yeah I think, too, you know, when you're in that space of curiosity and asking these type of questions and just, again, being in that place of play, that's when intellect has a tendency to move towards wisdom for me. That's what I've noticed, first of all, in myself, you know, but also in many of my clients, like when we're really in that space of, I can tell immediately when they start to tap in. because there's just it's just wisdom and it's what a what a amazing way to walk the world yeah what an amazing and you help people do that with your services you offer in your website you have personal coaching you do business solutions where you work with they are as well as

you do that as as internally or as an advisor or some an advisor i do you know there's times when i may work with the entire team in specific divisions or I may work with the CEO so yeah that's the way that works for me and I noticed you have an offering on your site too of a free guide for the seven energetic steps to the future that's calling you yes that explains all those messages and calls they keep getting yeah that's right it's my future that's calling that's right remember if you have your people calling listen just listen Sorry, Google voice got set off there. Oh, that's okay.

Got excited. She just wanted to get her two words in. Two cents in, yeah. With Intuitous, you help them, they can get the free guide. Do you want to tease out a couple of the seven energetic steps? Absolutely. Absolutely. One of the steps is just really being in your own vibrational frequency and really

understanding what that is. And again, going back to, is it shame? Is it guilt? Is it anger? Is it fear? Or are you living more from intellect? Or are you going up to love and all of these type of things? It's really understanding how to monitor that frequency. And also understanding, too, that a lot of good and bad happens, right? And we need both. Yeah. Yeah. we need both. What do you think we need both? What is it, let's slash that out a little bit, maybe. I think it comes down to, we can find so much greatness and wisdom in ourselves after we've gone through something that is very hard and very challenging. It's almost, again, talking about vibrational frequency, our vibration is dropped so low that we're in that place of deep sadness and just deep, you know, just, all of it, all of it.

We're feeling all of it so much. And then one step at a time, we keep getting stronger and stronger and stronger. And it's just almost this thing of, okay, I was here. And I understand there's lessons here. So what do I take from it now? What's next? What's next? So it really is being in that space.

And it also comes down to deep listening. Again, you know, like you said, going outside and being in that energy and being with your puppies and just being able to take all of that in my morning walks. They're so simple and it's so quiet and there's so each step I can feel. And again, it's allowing my vibrational frequency to go up. It's allowing my own heart to be in alignment with my thoughts. It's allowing all of those things.

And it's also really acknowledging where you're moving to that place of being in your higher self. When you know and understand that everything is connected, we're all so deeply connected and what that means. And the way that we can expand that out to really make a difference in the world. Those are three of those steps. and it just brings so much peace. Yeah, peace. And creating those moments to listen, I think one of the problems, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the problems we have in life is we don't make space for those moments

to be intuitive and listen. You know, we're constantly drowning yourself out, and I'm guilty this too. You know, doom scrolling on social media, you know, sitting watching the TV with our tongue hanging out the side like a cow and you know that's how I imagine people watching the Kardashians yeah the and we

we fill our life with so much noise I remember one time I made the realization that I can't go from my desk in my home office to my kitchen without taking my phone with me and trying to watch some videos of you know on TikTok in between and I'm like

what am I fucking doing there's so much distance between here and there that I can't cross that chasm alone. I have to watch TikTok. Yeah, I'm in coffee, you know, espresso and, you know, in the machine just doing its thing and warming up. And so I'm watching TikToks. I go to the bathroom, you know, and you're in the bathroom watching TikToks

and I don't know what else is going on there, but you're watching TikToks. You know, you're in bed and you're laying there and instead of just maybe thinking about the day and pondering over what you did and maybe what you want to do, tomorrow, you know, I'm just doom scrolling across TikTok or Instagram or Facebook or reading my friend's comments. And we're so focused on that, you know. We're so focused on filling our life with noise. It's like we can't put up with being quiet anymore and being in solitude. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And solitude is a place that it really is connecting us. with our souls, right? It's like, we're here. We have our heart and we have our mind and

and we also have our higher selves, our souls. And being in that energy of the solitude, of the quietness, the stillness, the just the beauty of it. It's just so incredible. And it's so simple. I mean, it's simple when you're in it, but trying to get there, I understand, can be real challenge. Yeah, yeah. And so you help clients achieve that, help them do that, help them see that, and help them get their lives in order. And yeah, I mean, the only way you're going to change is giving yourself those moments where you can listen to quietness, understand what's going on, and all that good stuff. As we go out, any final more thoughts on some of the service you offer or anything we've missed that maybe we should let people know that you do?

Nope, we didn't really miss anything. And please go out and sign up for my freebie. it would be great if everyone did that and thank you so much for your time i appreciate you for thanks for coming i think we've given some people some great points on how to be more intuitive awesome maybe get more peace in their life and you know i mean sometimes you got a you got to just go you know to get a get a get a cup of coffee or chocolate and go sit in the corner read a book or you know be thoughtful and just kind of you know go outside and look at the look at the mountain Look at, you know, I think that's why you mentioned, you know, walking. A lot of people do hiking and go up in nature.

I find nature is a great way to tap into some of that too. Me too. Realizing this spectacle of the eons of time it's been here, you know. I used to get so depressed when I lived in California and I would go down to the ocean and I'd just be in this world of depression and worrying about things and, you know, my problems in the future and blah, blah, blah. and I would go down to the sun on the beach and just be in nature and just the hearing of the waves and then realizing that this ocean, this, this, this shoreline has been here for eons of time.

And it's going to be here long after I'm gone. And it really gives me, it really would give me perspective. It would put my stupid little problems of, I don't know, the can opener isn't working today or something. I don't know. You know, the car is, the car is, and he's an oil changer. You know, all my stupid little problems, I would sit there in front of this giant ocean and beauty and the sunset. And I would just be like, this thing's been here for eons at times according to nature, you know. My little stupid little problems are pretty stupid. And I would go home feeling like they had been minimized, like they had been put in perspective where I could handle them.

consume them and be like, it's okay. It's going to be okay. We're going to be here tomorrow. And if not, you know, I mean, that's the way it goes. But we're planning on being here tomorrow and see how it goes. But yeah, nature is, nature is really good. And then just seeding those quiet moments where you can be intuitive. So anyway, thank you very much, Kathy, for coming the show. We really appreciate. Give us your dot coms as we go out so people can find you all the interrupt. Absolutely. Intuitive strategies.com. My website, Facebook is intuitive strategies. and Instagram is intuitive dash strategies. Thank you very much for coming to show, Kathy.

We really appreciate it. Thank you. Bye now. Thank you. And thanks, John, us, for tuning in. Go to goodreads.com, Fortresschus Christchristch, Christfoss, 1. On the TikTokity and all those crazy places in the internet, be good to each other.

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