The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Unlocking Neurodivergence: Holistic Healing and Empowerment with Briana McCallum

Episode Date: March 1, 2025

Unlocking Neurodivergence: Holistic Healing and Empowerment with Briana McCallum LMHtea.org About the Guest(s): Briana McCallum is a distinguished holistic health consultant and divine empowerment and success coach. With over six years of professional experience and more than two decades of personal practice, she specializes in working with business owners and practitioners to achieve balance, vitality, and success. Briana McCallum is the founder of LMH Custom Teas and Herbs, LLC, where she integrates herbal remedies with personalized coaching. As a certified Reiki Master and energy healer, she also incorporates psychology, neuroscience, and trauma-informed coaching into her practice. Her unique approach extends to those who are neurodivergent, helping them transform their challenges into strengths. Episode Summary: In this episode, Chris Voss invites Briana McCallum to discuss her work as a holistic health consultant and divine empowerment and success coach. The show kicks off with an energetic introduction to Briana McCallum’s expertise in connecting holistic health practices with personal and professional development. Briana McCallum shares her journey, starting from her personal experiences with neurodivergence to becoming a certified coach and Reiki Master. Together, Chris and Briana delve into how these modalities help individuals, especially business owners, overcome trauma and achieve self-actualization. Briana McCallum elaborates on her methods of integrating herbal remedies with coaching to promote balance and success. She discusses how modern stressors like anxiety, depression, and ADHD can be managed using unique blends of holistic practices. Brianna also highlights the significant role that a supportive community plays in personal transformation, urging individuals to find a sense of belonging and authentic connection. Throughout the conversation, they explore the profound effects of sound therapy, energy healing, and personalized lifestyle changes in addressing unresolved trauma and facilitating rapid personal growth. Key Takeaways: Briana McCallum emphasizes the importance of balancing mind, body, and spirit through holistic practices, particularly for individuals with neurodivergent conditions. Custom herbal blends can offer a natural complement to traditional therapies and medications, addressing various ailments and fostering mental well-being. Establishing a deep, supportive community is crucial in overcoming personal trauma and fostering significant personal and professional growth. Practical tools like meditation and energy healing transform old narratives, reducing stress and enhancing life quality. Business leaders can enhance team dynamics and productivity by understanding and addressing the emotional and psychological needs of their employees. Notable Quotes: "When it comes to neurodivergence, our ailments can actually be transformed into superpowers if understood and managed correctly." "We are essentially tuning forks on the earth; everyone's vibrations tell a story." "Our growth edges and evolution happen through discomfort and change." "Change the way you think, and you change the way you perceive; change that, and you change your whole life." “It's all about creating an ecosystem within ourselves that allows us to thrive, both personally and professionally.”

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on the TikTok, and in chrisfossfacebook.com, you can see all the groups and crazy stuff we do over there. Today, Brianna McCallum joins us on the show. She is a holistic health consultant and divine empowerment and success coach, specializing in working with business owners and practitioners. She's the founder of LMH Custom Teas and Herbs LLC, and she integrates herbal remedies with personalized coaching to help clients achieve balance, vitality, and success. Through divine empowerment coaching, she accelerates self-evolution, I need some of that, I need to evolve, self-actualization, goal-setting, and the fastest achievement of goals and growth.

She empowers individuals to align their mind, their body, and their spirit, facilitating rapid personal and professional transformation. Welcome to the show. How are you, Brianna? Thank you, Chris. I'm doing pretty good today. How about yourself? Thank you for coming to the show.

Give us your.orgs or.coms, wherever you want people to find you on the interwebs, please. Yes, so you can find me at LMHT, like the drink, T-E-A dot O-R-G. You can also find me on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and LinkedIn. So give us a 30,000 overview of what you do and your words there. All right. So I am a divine empowerment and success coach. And what that means is everything that I do in my business is divinely led. I don't path shame whatever someone's spiritual journey is.

That's their journey for a reason. But in my work, I do mediumship and spiritual support in my coaching. I also incorporate psychology and neuroscience into everything that I do. I do trauma-informed coaching, and I also do success and empowerment coaching. And I specifically specialize in neurodivergence, so people that are on the spectrum that deal with anxiety, depression, may have ADD, ADHD, anxiety, dyslexia, whatever their brand of NeuroSpicy is, I do specialize in helping turn those symptoms into superpowers. You like that, didn't you? I like that NeuroSpicy. I think I'm having some of that in my coffee right now. Maybe I should say my tea. And then you incorporate a lot of this holistic stuff with tea and healthy herbs. I'm a big fan of tea. I love tea. I love coffee too. So there's that. And then you have blends that you put together, tea blends that are customized that

you sell on your website as well. I do, yeah. And that's only a small sampling of what I've created over the years that are some of the better sellers, but I've blended over 350 teas customized to different clients' needs and journeys. So there are quite a few. That was the question I was going to ask for if you did a custom per client. Hey, you're really insane. You need this tea. It's probably what you do for me. Hey, we got tea for that. Do you have a lobotomy? Chris Voss needs lobotomy tea so so how long you've been doing this professionally i've been doing it for about six years now but i've been doing the holistic health consultation and coaching just unpaid privately as a part of my work as a part of just my way of being for 20 years now.

And is it pronounced Reiki? Is that right? Reiki. I'm still, see, I still need to evolve. You do master energy healing and sound therapy. Is that where they have the sound bath things? Is that, forgive me if I have the wrong genre. No, you're good.

So there are two different things there. There's Reiki healing, which is an Eastern form of energy healing. And there's different delineations of how it's taught. And my Reiki master, when she trained me, we work through God and archangels in a lot of our work. And we work with the chakra center. So, yeah, it's more Eastern medicine related. And then the sound therapy is separate from that but they are very complimentary so that's where you would have chimes singing bowls

tuning forks and pitches and different vibrations oh wow that's very different than what my dad used to force me to do he'd be go out and do some reiki the leaves are on the lawn anyway this is a bad joke they pay me for the cheap jokes. Your certification comes as a Jay Shetty, Certified Life and Success Co. Reiki Master Energy Healer. I'm going to learn how to pronounce Reiki by the end of the show. You got it, Richard. So tell us about your life journey.

How did you grow up? What were some of your influences? What were some of the maybe stories that shaped you, that got you into holistic healing and kind of discovering yourself and how you could use these methodologies to heal yourself, but also to help other people? Yeah, that's a lot. So I'll have to find the snapshots. We did kind of throw everything at you there. I was like, I'm 38, so how do I snapshot this?

But first of all, I did want to correct a little bit. The Jay Shetty Life Coaching and Success Coach, that is a certification. And then Stephanie Younga through My Healthy Reiki Life, that's the one who gave me my Reiki Master Certification. Oh, okay. Yeah, a little separation there. All right. the quick snapshots are, I'm neurodivergent myself, I have a lot of acronyms by name, but none of them are PhD, probably could be at this point with how much I've studied. And so I've been through my own journey of being neurodivergent. And that's long before there were reels on ways that you could cope and ways that you can incorporate into the world. It's just everybody got put on Ritalin, or they got put in a special classroom, and there just there really

wasn't a whole lot of support or, you know, at work just like oh you're a lot to deal with so when i was growing up i get it we are my employees tell me that they're like you're a lot to deal with yeah it's okay but that's that's where for the neurotypical brain they just they work at a different pace than we do so those of us that are neuro spicy our brains are going non-stop all the time so what would be like a massive amount and overwhelming for a neurotypical person that's kind of normal for us we're just going non-stop and we learn how to mask it so that we can adjust to suit their needs and their comfort which there's a balance in that yeah is is it like ocd or adhd or is it a little bit different So those are in the neurodivergence spectrum. The spicy area?

The spicy, yeah. I like neuro spicy better because we're not really spicy. Yeah, neuro spicy. But yeah, neurodivergence is a blanket term to include anyone that is not neurotypical. So if their brain just naturally functions on a different plane, not like I'm really stressed out so I've gotten depressed or i'm anxious i'm talking about it's a chronic condition for them if their brains are just naturally hardwired different than they're in the neurodivergent category but yes adhd anxiety

depression those those all fall on the spectrum those are my favorite those are my favorite i love those but you know i mean they they call like the co disease adhdCD. So it's not that bad. I mean, I've been running companies since I was 18 and, you know, I might be insane with, you know, what you talk about the overthinking and things like that, but it sure is helpful to start a business. Yeah. And here's the thing, you know, people will give you labels. I say, oh, you're overthinking or a man, you're crazy. You're too much. All of these things. And you can keep those narratives if you want, but they're very disempowering because really most of our biggest innovators and creators and leaders and thought provokers and waymakers and changers, they're all neurodivergent. And that's one of the benefits is we think out of the box.

We're not comfortable in the stream, in the rat race. We can't do that. It doesn't work for us. You know, people that do that, they're're neurodivergent they're the ones that go into severe depression or they really just bottom out but those of us that say you know what i want more and i'm going to do more we do and we do amazing things so let people think we're too much that's fine they can go find us that's and that's what the zoloft is for to regular i've been on zoloft twice but tell us about how i don't know if i interrupted your journey. You were telling us your story, and I might have interrupted about halfway through it. Okay.

You have questions. So did you discover these modalities? And when did you discover them? And when did you find that they were healing for you? And then, of course, you moved on to helping other people. Yeah, so that's relevant. It's actually a good transition because you stopped me with some of the language I use and allowed us to explain to people what it means.

So it was perfect. But I didn't have support tools and for me, my body reacts so strongly to medication that the side effects of the medication are usually worse than whatever the medication is supposed to be treating. Oh wow. So for me it didn't even make sense. Okay, I'm on antidepressants and I'm on ADD meds but now I'm dealing with beyond depression. Oh, wow. I'm a little bit depressed. So, I had to find other options and it took me years of studying and exploration to figure out a lot of the holistic methods that are predominantly lifestyle

changes, diet, that's huge for us with neurodivergence, and mindset. Like, those three things, those are the key categories that if we can make small shifts to create a more sustainable system, ecosystem for us and how we're functioning to support us, it changes the way we do everything. Yeah, it's what you put in your mouth. It's what you eat. I'm sure there's other aspects too, but I lost 100 pounds years ago, and it was all about what I was eating when I was putting it in my mouth,

how I was taking care of my body. Back then I was drinking vodka and Mountain Dew a lot. And now I drink coffee and tea. And there's green tea, black tea. There's all sorts of millions of teas. And they're really good for you. And now I feel my body at 57 feels so much better. Geez, I can't imagine living the life that I used to live where I used to eat fast food all the time and all that crap.

Yeah. Yeah, just awful stuff. With the Reiki, how does that work? So say I'm out in the audience and I'm not familiar with that modality. Give me a foundation on how that works. Sure. I've worked hard to figure out ways to explain that to lay folks. It is a little complex.

So a lot of people are familiar with chakras and yoga. So that's usually my starting point. You know, you hear the yogis that are talking about our chakra energy and we're going to work on our sacral energy and all of these things. And it sounds great and pretty. But how that lines up is the way that a lot of eastern traditions describe some of our nervous system reactions is through energy and there is some truth in that if you were to use sound therapy or vibration we can actually change the way that our cellular chemistry responds to

illness to injury through vibration and the same thing is true with energy. Like, we are essentially tuning forks on the earth. Everyone has different vibrations that we operate at. And when it comes to our energetic field, that's related to both our internal systems and how our central nervous system connects to different parts of our body, as well as that vibrational frequency that we naturally operate at. So, if you look at someone who is very anxious and they're going nonstop, if you were to actually hook them up to electrodes, they would be at a very high frequency. They're going to be firing rapidly. They're going quickly, they're moving quickly, they're thinking quickly. Somebody that's more depressed, it's going to be different. It's going to be depressive. They're going to be moving a little

bit slower. They're not going to be firing off as much in maybe the creative centers of their brain or in the executive function and the decision-making side. It's going to be more depressed. And when I do Reiki, what I do is I'm able to move that energy in a different way. And so, you have your physical modalities. I've started doing something called somatic Reiki, which is where we incorporate movement, tapping, pressure points, and the physical aspect into it. But the Reiki side is pure energy work. So, you know, folks that are Christians, they can look at the Bible and the different ways that Jesus and some of the other ministers and healers did healing work where they laid hands. And they just used divinity to do healing it's similar to that and that it's just an energetic movement so you're taking

source energy that everything's made out of we're made out of the same stuff as the universe the stars and the planets which is beautiful we're also made out of the same stuff that potatoes and rocks are made out of so i know some people that are total rocks and total potatoes me too me too but for the reiki energy work what that is is we're we're attuned differently so there's hours of training that go into this and it is it is wild it is a wild experience to go through but we're able to channel that energy and most of us do it through our hands. That's where it flows through, and I can feel it when my energy's flowing. If someone's around me that needs Reiki healing and my energy activates, I can feel a tingling and a burning in my palms.

So sometimes I'm just walking around doing Reiki energy on people. It's not always a paid thing, but of course I spent time and money and energy on it, so there's always some sort of exchange but i hope that explained it a little bit it's yeah that burning might be you know for someone like me you're you're handling the satanic missions of of my hell burning for selling my soul according according to some people in religion i guess on facebook i'm i fit that mold i don't know well you get beside your narrative yeah it's it's kind of funny yeah it says it's it's you get you get the if i'm an atheist you know they they like they don't like me much um yeah that'll do it so yeah i think i might have i'm not sure i've had i massage i found was a real healer for me back in the day, and I still love it to this day.

And I know that there were some massages that I was given that were just like, it was touch. It wasn't like, you know, rubbing, you know, your muscle. It was like touch and, you know, kind of energy thing. Was that one of those modalities that you did? Yes, a large percentage of massage therapists are also Reiki practitioners. Oh, wow. Okay. But yeah, there's something called Reiki touch that's similar to acupressure. And so it will activate those same meridians that are aligned with our chakras because we have the seven primary chakras most people are familiar with. But we actually have hundreds of them that are minor

outlying chakras. And then there's a belief that there's 24 chakras that connect us to our divine source energy, whatever your term for it is, and that connect us all the way down into the earth and our grounding energy as well. So, it kind of depends on which facet you follow. I live in the Bible Belt, so I do use a lot of Christian analogies. It's kind of like here, you have Roman Catholicism where it all started and it delineated out into, I believe this, so now we're Baptists, and we created our own thing. And, you know, it's all just a different language for the same stuff. Like, I don't look at someone who's atheist or agnostic as anything different.

But we're still spiritual. Exactly. It's all relevant to your path, you know, and whether somebody calls it God or energy or the universe, like, it's all the same stuff, but we use different languages to describe what we're doing. So if somebody talked to a burning bush and that wasn't satanic, then why would a shaman speaking to a disembodied being be satanic? It doesn't really make sense to do that. And that's a whole other discussion when we talk about control and power that's not religious or not spiritual.

It's religion. But we won't put it on that rag a hole. I've talked to some bushes, but that's when I was on vodka or maybe i should say edibles it's probably more appropriate you go talk to bushes on edibles that's a different discussion too how's it going mr bush you're kind of a shrubbery there eh what's going on am i am i high are you talking to me right now so you also have spiritual support services you after offer dream interpretation uh in-depth reading and energy work gold divination you've got some subscriptions tell us about those yes so my spiritual support services like i said i'm all souls i've worked with pagans i've worked with atheists i've worked with agnostics i've worked with christians i've

worked with appalachian christian witches they're my favorite they're really how about mormons you've done mormons yet i've not worked with them directly through my practice but i've had some real interesting discussions with them i'll bet yeah i mean i'm in utah right now that's why oh are you okay i was i went to school out in utah for a little while out in yeltsin i'm sorry i'm sorry it gets better we have a small small community of of Mormons here where I live. Yeah, yeah, not many. So dream interpretation. And I mean, what do you find like a lot of the clients that are coming to you nowadays?

What are they suffering from? What do they need help with? What do you find is driving people crazy and insane nowadays if it's not politics? Well, that's all surface-level stuff. When you talk about politics and work and all these things, that's like going to the doctor and them treating the symptom, but not actually finding the root cause of the problem. So what I find that most people are dealing with now,

it has to do with power and self-actualization and trauma. And those two things, that's usually the root of anything that they're going through. And when it comes to our dreams and when it comes to card readings and things like that, what I tell my clients is I'm just, I'm a phone, right? So when you place a call, it's not that the phone is doing the work. You've placed a call and then the phone is the tool for you to place that call to someone else and and then they answer, and you get the messages. So, that's essentially what I do, but I also combine psychology and spirituality, because I am a medium, so I'll pick up on different energies or nuances. Sometimes I see things, sometimes I hear things, sometimes I smell things, and when it's appropriate, I share it with people. When they pay me to do it, obviously they want that, and I share it with

them. Like, I did a card reading today where my client sent me a message and she said, this is scarily spot on. I'm crying right now. I can't believe that this was so accurate. I was like, you're welcome. That's what I do. But it all ties back every single time into trauma. And that's why I like to do the coaching work and the holistic health because the holistic health, that's dealing with the body, the mind, and the spirit the spirit all together so we're going to create an ecosystem that's best for you to thrive and grow and whatever your external or internal traumas are that have created unhealthy thought patterns that have created physical ailments that are an issue that have created mental health issues that are leading you to self-sabotage to substance abuse to whatever your thing is what we're gonna do is yeah we're gonna work on those habits but we're gonna go find where that started where in your childhood did you get this message that xyz or

what happened to you that shifted your mentality so much that you have now created a cycle of comfort that's destroying you in some way keeping you in these cycles of anxiety or fear or depression or keeping you from succeeding. And we're going to rewrite those narratives. And a new practice that I've been doing is reprogramming with my clients. So our brains are like computers, right? And we're the programmers. So we can input the program. And our brain's job is to take whatever we tell it, that command prompt, and to give us proof that that command prompt is true. Oh, okay, you want to start easy. I'm learning how to be better with money and I'm getting more comfortable with being out around other people

and being in public. And you start there and then you keep rewriting the narrative and you keep creating new patterns to break those cycles. And while you're doing that, you go back and find what created this anyways? Why do I have so much anxiety around this? Why do I have fear around this? Why am I afraid of making money? Or why do I think I'm anxiety around this why do i have fear around this why am i afraid of making money or why do i think i'm not good with money and we change those thought patterns you change the way you think change the way you perceive you change your whole life you know it's interesting to me because we've talked a lot about trauma on the show we probably had a few hundred psychologists on the show the it's interesting how what's what how, what's that one book called?

The Body Knows the Score? The Body Knows the Score. Yeah, and it's interesting how we kind of hold trauma in different parts of our body. And I think that's probably what's good with your services. You help identify those and flush them out. Absolutely. And that's a big part of the Reiki that I love. Because one of the coolest things that happens is when I have no conversation with a client about what's going on other than just, you know, these are what I'm feeling,

this is what I'm thinking. And sometimes it's detailed, usually it's not. And I'll go through and do a Reiki session. And then when I let them know, for example, I had a client yesterday where when I got to their solar plexus and I got down to their root chakra, the images that I saw, the messages that I got when I delivered to them, it was imagery of a tree growing. And then there were specific spirals and different shapes that were coming up as I was working the energy. And when I told them that, they read me a poem that they read back in middle school that made them start bawling and crying that had to do with their self-worth, and they were dealing with a lot of digestion issues, and they were dealing with pain in their hips. I didn't know any of this. I was just doing the healing, and it came up. So, that's

one of the coolest things about the energy work is people can tell you whatever they want, but your energy and your spiritual self, it's not going to lie. It's going to look out for your best interest. So, it's a neat interaction to be able to do. It's weird, too. Honestly, it's not going to lie. It's going to look out for your best interest. So it's a neat interaction to be able to do. It's weird too. Honestly, it's really weird. But I mean, we've talked about this enough and studied enough and had enough people on the show. It's really true. It's really amazing how it can fester in different places in the body and it can cause so many different problems. You see people that, I believe it can cause body and it can cause you know so many different problems you see people that you know these i i believe it can cause cancer it can cause disease all sorts of stuff stress they call it a silent killer for a reason because something you got to think about is when we get ill or when we get injured what's our body's first response a fight or flight or that's

that's more of a psychological response. So our body's physical response is inflammation. So if we get an injury or if we get ill, inflammatory proteins are released. So that way it can protect the site of injury or it can get antibodies flowing in the system. When you go through anxiety or high stress, then there are some good stressors. But when you're in a constant state of stress, it also causes inflammation. Because when you have mental ailments, your body treats it as a physical ailment as well. So it's treating that as an injury. And so that's probably what caused that storage in the body and keeping it in some sort of cellular level, maybe?

Exactly. And if we want to get into cellular health as well you know obviously there's the things that we eat the things we do the the way that we manage our bodies but there's also some really cool pseudoscience going on about the generational traumas and how we hold on to that on a cellular level as well so we have things that are passed down through genetics so you could have six generations back and somebody that was in a famine situation and, you know, it's completely changed the metabolism of their entire lineage. And it's wild to look at that. So you can look at just what you're going through. And if you've dealt with everything that you're doing, you know, your mental is good, your spiritual is good, your physical is good, but you're still having issues. All right, well, it might be time

to start looking into some ancestral healing and doing a little bit of lineage work. And that's when you get into the fun pseudoscience. But it's powerful work. And then a lot of people, you know, they believe in past lives as well. So I've been doing a lot of past life regression in the last year. I've had a half dozen people come to me and say, hey, I want to get into past life regression. All right, let's go. You know, can we get future life progression?

Can somebody develop that talent maybe ai or something like you you know how like you can skip levels on video games or something like that right you can just be like hey can i just skip this life to the next one you know assuming there's one you know i was i was watching a reel recently where somebody was asking about i and spirituality and i don't remember if it's chat gbt or what but whatever ai it was went into this long answer about how technology and spirituality have always been the same and they've never been separate so you might be on something there and i don't know if you've seen people asking different like very deep questions of ai and the answers they're giving are very profound so that might be a fun thing for people to play with. See what happens.

Yeah. I mean, there are some times in life where you're like, can I just skip this? Even if you look at it from the AI standpoint, it's got all the research, so you can look into Taoism and Buddhists, because their ideology has to do with reincarnation. Say, okay, based off of the data that we have and the belief systems we have, how can I change my future path to incorporate whatever you want? I just want to come back as a billionaire. No, I'm just kidding. That's fair.

I want to come back as some super cuddly animal that the only thing they do is lay around and cuddle. And into the world comes, they're like, eh, we're going to die anyways. Let's snuggle. Yeah, let's just snuggle. I've always loved wolves. I've always felt that if I did have a prior life, it was as a wolf because I connect with the wolves like really. I connect with them something else. So you help people fix their diets, fix their energy.

And I imagine you work with people all over the world. You know, people can do this dialing into you or do they have to come to you and be in person? So I do both. And where I live, the demand is not high enough for me to justify the overhead expenses of a brick and mortar. So I typically do house calls or we just have meeting places that we go or I rent out other offices. But 90% of my work is virtual. I've worked for people in Asia, the UK, Canada, Mexico, all over the U.S. from California to New York, Florida, here in North Carolina. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

I'm sorry, did you have something you wanted to say there? Oh, I just said anyone, anywhere. No, I think we mentioned in the bio that you help business owners and entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs go through a lot of stress. They go through a lot of isolation, depression. I think I'm listing all my conditions. I'm OCD, ADHD. What are some ways that you help businesses?

Do you maybe go in and do teamwork where you get everybody on the whole energy thing and work with people in a group? I have not had the honor of having a business hire me yet. But yes, I have a lot of different structures that I would like to implement and play with and beta test in businesses because I worked in food service for a long time. I have a bachelor's in culinary arts and food service management. So my prior career was as a chef. Never in a million years thought I'd be in this. And I've done a lot of working with teams and just seeing how that structure works when you've, you know, whether

you've got a corporation or a small mom and pop. And I've noticed that there are a lot of commonalities and they're similar to one-on-one coaching. So when you're working with teams, you know, you have this whole formation stage that goes through where there's going to be some tumult, you know, you've, you've got the forming stage and the norming stage and the storming stage and all these different areas that we go through until we get to, okay, now we're in functionality where we're able to flow together. But the components that really help those shift is there's the neuroscience behind it of just communication and how we perceive things. Because especially if you're working in like a corporate environment, you have people that are in upper management, they have different responsibilities, different lifestyles, different ways of doing things and viewing things. And then you have the workers, the ones in the trenches that are doing different

tasks, and they may be a little bit blind to what's happening up here or over here, because they're just focused on what they're doing. And then you have your, you know, all your demographics that you're working with for their background and their personal experience for what they're bringing in. And if you don't have a work culture that includes some sort of connection and communication where you're able to break through those barriers, you're going to have disruptions in the system. You're going to have bottlenecks. You're going to have areas where you're just completely disjointed. And it could be the most rated machine, you know, and you have all these SOPs. You got everything in place to where this is how we do the things. But if your standard operating procedure comes from upper management, they don't understand how the base flow goes with the working class, then that's useless.

You may actually be creating more problems than fixing it. And that's where, you know, like you have those things that sound super corny. Let's do team building and let's do trust building exercises and let's do all these parties. And if they're done, not with the intention of just for show or spending money in that budget, but if they're done with the intention of truly building a community and a network of people that are working for the greater good and the mission of your company, that's another thing. You need to have core values and a mission of your company that's another thing you need to have core values and a mission for your company because if everyone's working towards that as a team

it's completely different than i'm just going and i'm earning a paycheck i'm just you know i'm just editing these shows for chris it's like no we have a broader message we have a purpose and it changes that dynamic and i imagine you know trauma unresolved trauma is like so huge everywhere. And like, I, you know, we, I have big singles and dating groups and it's just amazing how people just go from one relationship to another, uh, and haven't healed their, their trauma. And I can see in business, you know, a lot of times as a CEO, as an entrepreneur, I would have to fix, especially my salespeople's heads because, you know, salespeople are great if, you know, the great salespeople, if you've hired them, right.

But if they get stuff in their head that psychologically mucks them up, they're having a problem at home, they have unresolved traumas, they have an addiction issue, you know, I've had those kind of sales guys that, you know, they, they have a cocaine problem or alcohol problem and you know sometimes all you can do is fire those people is that's what I used to do in the old days but now I can see there's a benefit to sitting down with your staff and going who here has trauma and maybe we should bring in somebody to fix it and and take a look at it so that you know we can just make the organization out here exactly yeah there's a benefit to slow to hire, quick to fire. But also when you have a team of

people that are looking out for each other, that's completely different. When you go through experiences of growth together and you go through turmoil together and you grow and bond on that level, it is completely different. So, you know, I would say yes to have some sort of solution of, hey, is this something you want to work on? And how can we help you and create a team environment to help? But you also need to have boundaries around it. You know, if they're not willing to do the work to heal, if it's creating a disruptive environment to the point of it being dangerous or negatively impacting everyone at the company, and you can't, you know, isolate that and create a support system around it, then yes, you're going to have to do something different. But

absolutely, I would say that's a brilliant route to go, because now you're going to have a much more loyal team, you know, someone who has gone through a healing journey, because a lot of people are in addiction and trauma. They've gone through these cycles of trying to get help and not being able to receive it, either through their own means or just not getting the help and support they need. And so a lot of people, when they get someone who genuinely cares about them, and it's not in their best interest, it's just, I want you to improve and do better, and it benefits all of us, it changes the way that they see you. And there's a different amount of gratitude and just loyalty.

I've seen it so many times where, you know, say someone's a felon and they can't get a job anywhere and they have that one place that gives them a chance. And they end up being the best manager that they've ever worked with. Like, man, I'm eternally grateful to you. I thought my life was over because nobody will hire me. You gave me the chance to show you I can do something different. But it's up to that person to make the change. So there's a balance. You got to do the work, right? Yep the other side of it man when you get your trauma healed it's really nice yeah and it's

actually great in identifying trauma and other people because then you can be like oh I see what's going on there you kind of have a better understanding of it and also you know I feel like dating you can be like yeah i'm not that's not coming in my life anymore i live with that for 50 years yeah no thank you i did that myself uh i don't know more of that there done that roller coaster burn the hell out of it i'm done now i see on your website you've got an events tab i think it's hidden behind a password and login for clients and stuff it says you host some healing circles and different things like that some collectives talk to us about some of the things you do there yes over the the fall and early winter i was doing

monthly events with other local businesses there's a non-profit called dreaming stone arts and ecology center and they do a ton of amazing work for outreach and overall ecology and education, and they do a lot of healing work. I worked with Satori Spa, and that's shifting, but Naima and Noble are two of the founders there, and they are both shamans, healers. There's two massage therapists there, and they're working on getting priestess training as well. So when it comes to mediumship, they do amazing work, also sound healers. And then Flutter to Fly Coaching, that's Cassandra Hewton, and she does a ton of stuff as well. She does Thai massage, she does a little bit of Reiki, she does yoga, and she does coaching, but she's primarily focused on

business owners and helping them become more successful in their business. So we did some healing workshops, a lot of guided meditations, a lot of sound healing, a few brunches, and did a lot of guiding people through their trauma journey. So helping them navigate identifying what their inner traumas are and what their pain points are, and then guiding them through practices, physical practices, mental practices, spiritual practices that can help them break those trauma cycles and break those thought patterns. So, that way, it's a group experience where we get together, we do sound healing or ecstatic dance or journaling and do these different ceremonies, and then we do a guided meditation that includes Reiki and sound healing. And then we sit around and we discuss what came up. And it was an amazing experience.

And we're looking to do some events and retreats throughout the year. I've also got another person I'm working with, Raina Carroll. She's a shaman out in Tryon. And she's got a health and wellness store there. I've started selling teas with her. And I'll be doing an Equinox event in March. try on and she's got a health and wellness store there i've started selling teas with her and i'll be doing equinox events in march so definitely check out my page because i'm going to get some promotional material up for that here soon and that's another collective of healers and shaman

that are going to be doing shamanic breath work as one and then we're going to be doing reiki i'm going to be doing my guided meditation for the neuroscience. I'm going to do a whole presentation on how we combine the physical, mental, and spiritual together and how they interconnect. And then our shaman is going to do a final transition phase to help people fully move through their evolution. So it's going to be a very powerful day. I love it. And so people can find out more by contacting you on the website, following up on our newsletter, I think, whatever you have that you let people know what's going on. Yeah. So if you go to my website and scroll all the way down to the bottom,

if the pop-up doesn't pop up for you, you should get a pop-up that says subscribe to our newsletter and get, I think it's 15% off T, or you can scroll all the way down to the bottom. If you've denied it enough, it just won't come up. And you can just put your email in and subscribe to our newsletter and you'll definitely get updates on events there. You can also keep an eye on social media because I make sure to post events there. And then when I'm organizing the event, it'll go up on the webpage as well. I like how you make custom teas for people. You might be the first person we've had on the show who makes custom teas for their coaching clients and stuff.

Yeah, it's me. We've had lots of tea makers, but never anybody who custom makes blends. Well, that's where my journey started with this business. Actually, I was married before and I started that with my ex-husband because we had a homestead farm and we were growing lots of things, but we weren't selling enough. And I was already making teas with the herbs and spices that we grew. And was a new mom so I was doing a lot for postpartum depression and lactation and maternity support and whatever different moms needed anxiety and I had enough moms that said man if you sold this I

would pay good money for it but I said okay let's play with it and that's where I started but I discovered the coaching and the consultation along the way because I was spending hours. I've probably done $100,000 worth of free coaching and consultation before I started charging for it. But that's a lot of what I was doing is, okay, let me get you a tea that'll support your nervous system or will support your lactation, will support your mental health, support your spiritual journey, whatever. But let's figure out what's causing it because no amount of tea is going to fix whatever your root causes.

And eventually, I wisened. I was like, oh, wait, maybe I should do the coaching consultation, and this will become a complimentary thing. But yeah, I've had people get off medications and use my tea to replace them. And yeah, it's pretty powerful. Oh, yeah. Chamomile tea, spearmintint i've got some peppermint tea i think there's some i've got and so you've got some allergy relief breakfast blends cheer up

blend cold and flu season custom teas so people can come to you and be like hey these are my ailments and you'll be like here's some tea that you can use then of course the work of of doing the consultations and all that good stuff i love it yeah yeah if they go to the the custom teas there's a flavor profile section so if they want to just i think it's 25 dollars for a base level one or if you have multiple ailments then it costs a little bit more if you're on medications and things like that because it requires either more research or me outsourcing to practitioners that i partner with but if you want to do hands off you can just submit a form to me and I'll give you all the information you need with a whole list of recommendations. Or you can schedule a consult with me and we'll go through and have a conversation

and then we'll figure out what's my best good or service to work with you. So I have the introvert version for people that don't want two people. And I have the extrovert version for people that want to have a discussion okay and i imagine you know your teas are locally sourced or wherever you're collecting them from you know a lot of the stuff that comes in these commercial bags and stuff seems like it's dead when you get it out of the box yeah so the a big thing that makes what i do unique is yes the quality i do as much local as possible and then i use co-ops and 95 of of what I use is organic. If it's not organic, it's grown using organic, natural and sustainable methods, just without all of the regulatory hoops

to jump through. And I use the cooperatives because they support small farms. And that's where I started was on a small homestead farm. And we don't produce quite enough to make a ton of money because we're staying away from mechanized farming and we're doing as much by hand as possible. And that allows me to still support those small farmers but i also blend everything to order so i don't i don't have stuff sitting out and just i'm scooping it in a bag and going this is all custom blended made to order fresh so it's the equivalent of what you would get at a coffee house but what you buy in stores they usually are processed by machines and put into bags and then they're put into the bags and package, they usually are processed by machines and put into bags,

and then they're put into the bags and package, and they're put into the boxes, and then they're shipped, and then they sit in storage, and then they go on the shelf. When they go through all these processes, then you're losing the essential oils, which is going to lose the volatility of the herb and the impacts and the flavor. That's why you have these big giant tea bags, where it's a tablespoon of product. With mine, you can use a teaspoon teaspoon and it's going to be about four times stronger because it's more potent it hasn't gone through all of those processes that degrade the materials yeah i i've discerned the difference between buying you know

it can sit on the shelf for like years really uh some of these these commercialized teas and i've tasted the difference between that sort of tea and then just tea that's freshly made and when it's got that richness like you say of the of the flowers and all the stuff that's in the tea i recently got into what is it is the green japanese ceremonial tea matcha matcha matcha yeah yeah i even got the matcha whisk recently how do you like it i i mean i still kind of learn it's kind of cool though you just sit there and you're just you feel very japanese you feel very japanese doing japanese is there a song about that i'm feeling japanese i think i'm turning japanese yeah yeah that's what i really think so yeah yeah i know a lot of random songs and random information. It's a skill. It's part of being ADHD, I think, or OCD.

Yeah, yeah, we remember a lot of useless things, but it's funny, at least. Yeah. Anything more we haven't talked about? The services you offer people, how you help them, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, actually, I wanted to... I'm sorry, I'm going to turn my camera back on in just a minute. I had a bit of a malfunction. Let's see if you can see me now. Good? Okay. issue that people are having beyond the traumas is a lack of community and a lack of connectedness within their lives. And so, I'm not talking about just like going out to the grocery store and seeing

so-and-so from, you know, high school or whatever. I'm talking about a real community where you can really dive deep and you can evolve through whatever you're going through because you have those trusted people that you can have those conversations with, that you can have emotional intimacy and really open up on a level that allows you to evolve and grow. And that's one big mission that I have is to help bridge more gaps, especially where I live, the religious divide. Like you said, I'm an atheist, so you talked about all these demonizations that happen. That's so common. It's frustrating to me because I look at it's all just different languages to me. Everybody has different ways of expressing the same stuff, but we're not that different.

And if we can move beyond those differences and recognize that our differences are what make us powerful and what make us a force to be reckoned with, if we can join together and uplift one another and support one another, it's going to create massive change in the world. And it's needed. And you have things like COVID that pulled us apart, but also forced us to come back together. And then the here where I live, the hurricane that happened during the election, when everybody is so divided and arguing about the Democrats and the liberals and the conservatives and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now there's a bunch of people that are homeless and have no food and have no power and are trapped in different places. So they had to come back together again. So you're seeing this universal energy come through and forcing us to do it.

And that's one thing that me and a lot of the practitioners I work with are very big on right now is that change needs to happen. And if it doesn't, we're going to see more destruction happening internally and externally. So I'm going to throw that out there. I would wholesale agree with you. The, you know, COVID really mucked up stuff. One of the, one of the problems I've been having in my dating groups is people don't want to come out and socialize. I've had people tell me that they have a fear of socializing now. I'm like, you're 40 and 50 years old. You used to do this before COVID. Now you have anxiety, but you know know i think it's valid it's it's

you know people spent so much time it seems like it seems like some people kind of lost the skills to be social yes and no i think what happened is it opened up a can of worms for a lot of people they weren't even aware that they were holding on to because you've taken a lot of people that had this illusion of control of all these things they thought they had control over and realized oh shit i don't have control over any of this and that that epiphany of i could die at any point in time which you know there are whole schools of thought that say you should meditate on death and dying because it's really important to let go of that and understand that the only thing we have control over is ourselves and how we respond or react to a situation.

So, we can choose to look at a situation and say, I have no control over this whatsoever. Accept it and understand it's there. Allow the fear. Allow the emotion space. But don't let them rule you. Don't be reactive. Say, okay, what can I control? What can I do something about?

And let the rest go. Because you can drive yourself crazy focusing on all the things you don't have control over. Say, okay, what can I control? What can I do something about? And let the rest go. Because you can drive yourself crazy focusing on all the things you don't have control over. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's some people that, you know, memento mori is something I study a lot in stoicism. And it talks about what you mentioned, embracing death. You know, Marcus Aurelius says death smiles at us. The only thing we can really do that's constructive, I guess, is smile back. Yep. I mean, it is what it is. It's, you know, it's coming whether you want it or not.

And yeah, community is a big thing. Do you guys, do you have a community that you run, maybe a Facebook group or something like that? I'm going to be getting a community up and running this year. So my plan was to just have my regular social media and have a community kind of incorporated into that. But our social media has become so convoluted with advertisements and all of the nonsense and adorable kitten videos, which are great too. But it's become so convoluted with all this stuff that people get distracted. So I am going to create a community this year. And I'm launching some new programs as well, where I'm going to create a community this year, and I'm launching some new programs as well where I'm going to get into some of this reprogramming work. And that's going to involve doing the guided meditations with people, allowing them to experience the Reiki.

And there's going to be some low-cost entryway so that people can come in and get a taste of it, see if they like it. And if they don't, no harm, no foul. Now they have tools. And I'm really going to be hitting my business in a different way. I've been doing this business as more of a hobby and just because I want to help people for a long time. But I had another coach come to me and say, hey, look, you do exceptionally powerful work. And you're very good at what you do. And you're very unique. Imagine how much of an impact you could make if you were making enough money to create entire systems and support other industries and other practitioners that are doing the type of work that you do and create

an army of healers. And it was something click. Oh, let me make a shift. So that's my focus this year. I like the idea of building a community. Community really helps. And I think in today's world, we're so isolated. There's so many people that are still doing remote work.

So they're isolated there. You know, and the Zoom calls, not the same. When we're kind of around people and stuff, I think there's energy that plays off of each other. And where we're so isolated, so many people are single now. And it seems like people really struggle to date and do things after COVID. I mean, like I say, I have people that tell me that they have social anxiety to come out. And I'm like, we go to a 7-Eleven, don't you? Like there's strangers there.

And when you go to the gas station, you go to the store. Yeah, but if you're doing a dating group, you're talking about emotional intimacy. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Rejection. That's the piece. And all that stuff. But it seems like a lot of people they just i don't know they stay isolated for way too long and they've and you know they just need to get over it they need to talk to you about solving their issues let's go i'm happy to help with that

i'm very good at the step-by-step problem well and also um just a quick takeaway tip for folks that are in that boat is a lot of this, the social media, like these types of podcasts are great because you're learning different tools, but you need to utilize those. So if you go listen to this podcast and then you go isolate yourself and hang out on Facebook and Instagram and all these social sites where you can just escape from the discomfort, you're not going to grow out of it. So that's the biggest thing is our growth edges and our evolution happen through discomfort and change. So you need to put yourself in a little less comfortable situation of, okay, let me do this uncomfortable thing. Let me not just create an escape route all the time. Yeah. I think we had somebody on the podcast we talked about recently about how much distraction we have and dopamine we get from social media. And I realized that I wasn't sitting with myself in the quiet anymore.

I kind of started this thing where if I had to go make coffee or espresso or make food or something, I'd take my phone with me from my desk. And then I'd be watching videos. And then when I went to the gym, I'd be listening phone with me from my desk, and then I'd be watching videos, and then when I went to the gym, I'd be listening to audiobooks and trying to be, you know, kind of it was a productive thing, but I started realizing that I was afraid to just kind of sit alone with myself and listen to my thoughts. Yep. And just put the phone down and just let things be quiet and kind of listen to what my brain was talking about too because a lot of us we got that little active ego mind in the back that's yeah running its own

little program and sometimes listening to that and be like what the fuck are you up to back there buddy what are you talking about what are you doing what are you up to you're running the i realize you're the puppet master you're running the show but what kind of show we run in here buddy exactly and we've had so many generations and it and it's still a bit of an issue that based their worth and their value and their success off of how productive they are. Because you talked about that. It's like I was being very productive, but if we don't categorize our reflection and our sitting in quiet as a form of productivity. Because if we're able to sit with ourselves and really see all of the different pain points and growth edges that we have and we need,

those productivity moments are going to be amped up. We're going to be three to four times more productive because we're dealing with the bullshit that's getting in the way. We're knocking the obstacles down. Knock the obstacles down. Spend some time listening to yourself. And, you know, we get so much into doom scrolling on social media. Oh, my gosh, yeah.

And, you know, oh, the world's going to hell. And, you know, I mean, there's certain things you may want to stay up on and what's going on in the world and make sure you're paying attention. You don't want to get your head lopped off. But, you know, there's also a time where you need to, I think that's where meditation and services like yours are very important, where you can spend some time in the quiet and work on yourself. It's like, I can't change what's going to go on with politics

or the news of the day, a plane does this or whatever. There's certain things, they're just going to give you anxiety. And sometimes it's better just to, you know, if you have your own anxieties and your own unresolved traumas, it's better to maybe work on those. Yeah. And, you know, do something about it too, though. Cause like, even if you talk about politics, like, no, you don't need to doom scroll and stay in it so much that you're keeping anxiety up, which some of that is genetic too. Cause we used to be hunters and gatherers, and we had all these cortisol spikes that happened for survival. And now that we don't have it, sometimes we seek it. And it's just, oh, we need to do this thing, but we don't. But when it comes to things like politics or your community, you pick the things

you can do something about. So instead of just letting it cause you anxiety, it's like, okay, what can I do for myself? And what can I do for others? Because the fastest way to get out of your own head is to do something for someone else and shift the focus from yourself. So yes, sit in silence with yourself. But that's where community comes in is you have to have some sort of connection outside of yourself as well. And one thing that I found to be very powerful are those those guided meditations. A lot of people say, I can't meditate, I can't make my brain still silent, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're actually not supposed to sit in complete silence. That's not how that works. The way that you meditate properly, which there are people that can go to silence, but it takes them decades sometimes to learn how to do that,

is you first have to observe and just be present with your thoughts, with your feelings. And that's the letting go of control. All these things are happening in my mind and around me, and I don't need to change them. I don't need to control them. They're just here. I'm going to observe them, and I'm going to see what happens. And then you start making shifts. But the first key in meditation is just to exist and just be. And that's why I like the guiding, because there's breath work.

There's scanning your body and paying attention to what am I thinking and how am I feeling and where am I feeling it as I'm thinking this thing. Don't do anything about it. Just sit with it. Be there. And then we start working into now we're going to do something about it, but it all starts up here. It's all mental. The mental game. So give people a final pitch out on how they can onboard with you, how they can reach out, interact with you, et cetera, et cetera, your.org, etc., etc.? Yes. So, LMHTEA, that's L-M-H-T-E-A dot O-R-G. You'll see a book of free consult on the header of every single page, so you can hop on a call with me.

It's completely free. We'll just have a chat. We'll see if there's even a reason for me to give you a sales pitch, or you can head on to the website, and if there's any of my services that you're interested in, just go to that category. Go ahead and purchase the one that you're interested in, just go to that category. Go ahead and purchase the one that you're interested in, and I will get in touch with you, and you're going to work with me personally. I'm a solopreneur, so you're going to be working with me directly 99% of the time.

And you can find me on social media as well, but I would suggest that you get on my calendar, because that's the fastest and most direct route. Click and book a free consult today On our website. Thank you very much Brianna for coming on the show. That's been really insightful Thank you. I appreciate you have me Chris. Thank you And thanks for honest for tuning in go to good reason com for just Chris Foss LinkedIn comm for chest Christmas and all those places on The internet. Thanks for tuning in be good to each other stay safe. We'll see you guys next time there