The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Unlocking Psychic Abilities with Natalia Ray’s Seven Rays Method
Episode Date: September 6, 2026Unlocking Psychic Abilities with Natalia Ray’s Seven Rays Method https://nataliaray.com/en About the Guest(s): Natalia Ray is a distinguished clinical hypnotherapist, psychic development coa...ch, and creator of the transformative Seven Rays Method. With seven published books to her name, Natalia combines her expertise in hypnotherapy with her spiritual insights gained from initiations at sacred sites across the globe, including Karnak, Mount Sinai, and Glastonbury. She leads an extensive international community focused on spiritual education and has guided over a thousand students in unlocking their psychic potentials. Episode Summary: Welcome to another episode of The Chris Voss Show, where we dive into the profound world of psychic development with the esteemed Natalia Ray. As a clinical hypnotherapist and intuitive development coach, Natalia shares her expertise on her innovative Seven Rays Method, a practice she developed from spiritual insights received at Mount Besbarmag in Azerbaijan. This episode reveals how the seven rays correlate with chakra colors and how they influence different aspects of our lives, from wealth to psychic abilities. In this enlightening discussion, listeners will learn how Natalia’s background in hypnotherapy complements her psychic insights, allowing her to guide clients in unlocking their true potential. She also speaks on her book, “The Path of the Warrior of Light,” inspired by her past life memories through hypnosis, offering a mix of romance and self-discovery. With profound narratives of visiting sacred sites for initiations, Natalia elaborates on how these experiences have heightened her abilities and enriched her spiritual journey. Hypnotherapy, energy work, and the unlocking of innate psychic abilities are just a few captivating themes waiting for you. Key Takeaways: The Seven Rays Method: Natalia Ray explains her method, which uses the spectrum of rainbow colors to unlock different areas of life, like energy blockages related to abundance and psychic abilities. Transformational Initiations: Insights from visiting sacred sites such as Mount Sinai and Glastonbury play a crucial role in enhancing psychic and healing abilities. Unlocking Psychic Potential: Most people possess psychic capabilities that remain untapped due to energy and subconscious blocks. Natalia’s methods aim to unlock these abilities. Healing with Hypnotherapy: Hypnotherapy combined with energy work is a powerful tool for overcoming issues like procrastination and fear by alleviating underlying blocks. Intuitive Guidance: Trusting one’s gut feelings and following intuitive insights can lead to profound personal growth and success. Notable Quotes: “I believe that everyone has that. People call it a gut feeling.” “Those places are quite well-known, and they are not secret places. For example, Mount Sinai was my second place.” “I find that the state of trance is a very good state, actually. It is healing on its own.” “Most of the people on this planet do have psychic ability, and this is our natural ability.” “This is how you develop your intuition in a very natural way.”
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Today, an amazing young lady on the show with us today.
We're talking about some of the work that she does, and she's written several books as well.
The one we're going to talk about today is called The Path of the Warrior of Light,
Seven Gates of Initiation, and the Light Bears Code by Natalia Ray.
We're going to get into with her and find out all the deets and all that good stuff about what she does and how she does it,
and talk about all that.
In the meantime, she is a clinical hypnotherapist, psychic,
Psychic Development Coach and creator of the Seven Rays Method, author of seven books.
She has received initiations at seven sacred sites, including Karnak, Mount Sinai, Gastonbury,
Bali, and Glastonbury, actually.
Let me correct that there.
Bali and Nepal.
She's helped over 1,000 students unlock their abilities and leads a thriving international spiritual education community.
Welcome to show, Natalia.
How are you?
I'm fine. Thank you. Thank you so much for inviting me.
Thank you. And give us your dot-coms, websites, wherever people you want them to get to know you better on the program.
My main website with my books is natalia ray.com. And also I have another website, Tibetan Academy, where I talk about seven-ray method.
Why don't we establish, in this book, you talk about this seven-ray method. Is that correct?
Yeah, that's correct. No, in this book, in Light Bearers Path, I don't speak about this method.
Actually, Light Bearers, I wrote this book based on my past life memories.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, on hypnosis, you can go deep into your subconscious, into the trends.
You can see some moments of your various past lives.
I've been doing this work for myself for many years because I was very curious about my past lives
and where my soul is coming from.
And luckily I wrote down all those that I could remember,
and then I wrote the whole book.
This book is semi-fiction, semi-true,
and also it is about love, about soulmates,
and how souls can meet and love one another in various lifetimes.
So it's a little bit romantic and a little bit fiction and a little bit real.
Most people like it, though.
Yeah, yeah.
And so let's get into the seven-rays thing.
Tell us about what this is and what it's about and some of the work that you do on your website.
Yeah.
Thank you for this question.
I created seven-rays method from one of my intuitive insights, which I received in Azerbaijan, Mount Bejshbarmag.
There is a special place there.
It is actually well known with local people as a place of healing.
And in this place, I received an insight the knowledge about seven rays.
And those are the rays which are the same as the rainbow colors.
They are also similar to the colors people normally use when they describe chakras.
So there are similar from red to black.
violet color. And I started testing this method on myself first. This is what I normally do.
When I get some knowledge, I start trying it on myself. And then I used my knowledge from
hypnotherapist. I have formal qualification as a hypnotherapist. And I combine those two. And this is how
I created this method. This is kind of transmeditation where use combinations.
words and the color.
And those colors, they work for different areas of your life.
For example, like red color I would use when I work with abundance blocks and orange color
I would use when I'm working with sexual energy blocks.
If I'm working, for example, with psychic abilities, I would use blue, indigo blue
and violet color.
The combination of energy, color.
and hypnotherapy protocol, it gives very good results.
Wow.
And now you talk also about how you had seven of these sacred sites where you'd had
initiations.
Tell us about what those are and what that means for those who maybe aren't aware of it.
Yes, first experience of that kind I had in England and UK in the place called Glastonbury.
there is a heel which is called Glaston Beritor
and once I got there
I had a very strong experience
of maybe trans-channeling
or intuitive insight
so I went into kind of meditation
and I
received lots of information
and one piece of that information was
that there are special places on our planet
usually those places are quite well known
and they are not secret places.
For example, Mount Sinai was my second place.
Mount Sinai is well known,
and we know that it was used for channeling before.
And this is one of the places I visited, and I've got initiation.
Also, temples of Luxor, especially Kanak.
They have so many sports where you can get intuitive insights of very high quality.
Bersbamak is one of those places.
Also, in Peru, they have a few places like that.
One of them is Machu Picchu,
but also there is a place near the lake called Titi Kaka.
Another one I visited is Anko Vat in Cambodia,
and this is my inspiration.
And also, I really enjoy exploring these ancient sites,
and I explore them not just as a tourist,
taking photos, but I would connect with the place, connect with the energy of that place,
and I explore them on energy level, and then I explore which insights I can get in those sites.
That's what it means to get initiated, because every place opens my abilities,
and it will put my powers on the next level.
I mean the ability of working with energy, healing ability, and transformation ability.
too. And so what does that feel like? What's your experience? Can you describe it maybe a little bit
for people? What these initiations are like? Is it kind of weird? Are you kind of anticipate
it's going to happen? Or is it like deja vu? It just kind of washes over you. And you're like,
oh, geez, I was enjoying my lunch right now and now this.
I can tell what it feels like. Quite unusual and weird. And usually after this experience,
sort of it is exciting and scary at the same time because I can get lots of and as if you are watching a movie inside your head about something that happened in this place before, about something very, I would say, fiction-like.
And sometimes I have just a flow of information about different secret knowledge, about ancient tools, about healing tools.
and sometimes I don't quite even understand all this information first,
but then later it is sort of expanding inside of my consciousness
and I start trying it intuitively and then I can find words to describe that
and then I create some kind of tool like seven rays method is one of them
and I'm using that to help other people, for example, to unlock their patent
to overcome self-sabotage, to overcome procrastination, to heal, being burnt out,
working with those things that, for example, science cannot help yet.
Yeah.
And so this is, I mean, you're certified as a hypnotherapist.
You've studied this as an art and everything else.
And so your job is to help people.
What do you find most people who come to you for help are,
trying to overcome with and you're able to help them?
I'm able to help with lots of things, but normally, for some reason, I don't know,
people come to me to unlock their psychic powers.
They're the people who already can feel that they're a little bit different.
Lots of people who come to me are clear sentient, and they do feel a lot, and because
they cannot normally tell anyone about their experience.
usually people are not willing to open and speak openly about that because they're scared that
other people will find they're crazy or dangerous. I experienced actually this myself because when
I was as a child, I was very sensitive and I could feel and sense so much. But somehow I knew
intuitively that I shouldn't talk about that. I actually have a child.
my daughter who is psychic as well.
Oh, really?
Yeah, that's quite normal.
If you are psychic, your child is usually psychic too.
But likely she can at least talk to me about that.
And we talk about all those experiences,
and I can help her and explain her what it is like
and to calm her down if she's scared.
Yeah, and those are kind of people who come to me.
They already sense something,
but they have lots of their main problem, for example, for Claire sentient person, because they are so empathic.
For them, it is very hard to handle that because they can feel other people's emotions all the time.
They can feel so much, it feels overwhelming.
And also, when people already know that they have something, they want to open it fully
and also they want to learn how they can use it for their own benefit.
intuition is actually a great tool. And I'm quite sure, though I cannot prove it, that all the
great people in this world, like all the great actors, singers, artists, I'm quite sure that they're
old psychic, just they don't tell anyone. No, that's my theory anyway.
Really? Yeah, that's my theory. But you know, lots of scientists said quite openly that all
those ideas, they come to me from somewhere. And even a writer,
would say like, oh, this idea came to me, but where it came from? No one talks about that.
I believe that they come from the thinner plane of our relative, and some people just able to
catch those ideas, and they're able to create it in some form that other people can understand.
This is the art that requires a little bit of psychic and a little bit of logic.
And what's the one ability most people don't realize they have?
You may have just talked about it, I'm not sure.
Yeah, I can talk about the signs that my people normally have.
And I have lots of them because I'm doing that for quite a few years.
I've talked with so many people with psychic abilities.
There are people who always attract animals, for example, dogs and cats come to them
and also little kids are drawn to them.
Those people are natural healers and they have a healing energy
that is so attractive both for animals and humans.
Those people quite often they choose a profession
that is related to helping people.
For example, a nurse or a doctor or a psychologist
or for some reason, lots of my clients would be hairdressers
or beauticians, or such therapists, because they're people who are willing to help,
and that's why they choose these professions.
Another one is being sensitive towards the energy of the place.
You enter the room and you can feel that something bad happened in there,
though there is no physical evidence.
Or sometimes you come to a place and you feel it's a really good place, really good energy.
that is being sensitive to energy.
Also, some people get intuitive insights of the events that will happen.
For example, they feel they shouldn't do something,
and then something bad happens in that place.
Lots of people have dreams of the events that will happen in the near future.
Lots of people, for example, can sense if someone,
is going to die. And those people usually very unhappy because they don't like that ability at all.
Because they think they somehow guilty about that. They feel guilt.
Okay, what else?
Yeah, the other question I had for you was, if someone feels successful, but they're very
disconnected inside, where should they start? Because sometimes we can look successful in the
outside, but sometimes we're a mess on the inside. I might be speaking for someone I know personally,
like maybe me.
Yeah, that's true because no one talks about how we really feel inside.
We're just to believe that we should achieve certain things and this will make us happy.
But normally that's not the case.
I myself pretended most of my life, tried to pretend being normal and I tried to wish normal things
like a career or buying property or marriage, but this didn't make me happy.
And other people who are successful, they achieve a lot, but they don't feel happy inside
and they don't feel satisfaction because they are very disconnected from their soul and from their
soul mission.
And while we're disconnected from ourselves, and if we are not accepting the abilities we have,
we usually cannot be happy.
Also, I want to talk about self-sabotage and procrastination and emotional burnout
because they are very common signs that have for most of successful people.
I believe that all those, they're related to energy blocks or subconscious blocks.
Because, for example, you set a purpose and you want to achieve it,
but subconsciously on very deep level, you have a fear, for example.
Very easy example.
You want to become popular.
I want to be a blogger.
You want to be visible.
Once you are trying to make yourself visible, for example, to record a video,
you have self-sabotage and procrastination.
And you cannot understand why.
I can understand because I have that a lot.
And this is coming from our energy blocks.
So if you have subconscious fear of being visible,
it is very hard to become popular or even start doing something.
But working with those subconscious or energy blocks will help a lot.
So when you release that block, you release that tension,
and then you naturally start doing what you should be doing
without any discipline, without fighting yourself,
it becomes quite natural.
Now, let's see, what else did I have for you for questions?
What's the biggest myth about psychics
or intuitive development?
The biggest myth about that is that you either have psychic abilities or not.
I actually believe, and I have already lots of observation about that,
that most of the people on this planet do have psychic ability,
and this is our natural ability.
And the only reason why they don't actually see that
or acknowledge that because they are locked in so many ways.
I believe that those abilities are not developed, but they are unlocked.
And Seven Rays is the method that is helping to unlock them.
But what other thing I noticed, because firstly, I created this method
specifically to unlock psychic abilities only.
But when I started working with the groups of people
and using this method, I noticed that they had improvements in so many other areas as well.
For example, opening their voice, speaking up, opening their heart, improving their relationship
with people, working their inner strength and talents in so many other areas,
improving their financial situation too.
And I believe this is the best thing you can do for yourself to work with your energy blocks,
because it opens you up so much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Energy blocks, are they a lot like scottomas or blind spots where we don't see the behavior
that we're doing and how it's impacting us, maybe?
Yeah, that's right.
As I see it as a psychic, if I will use clairwarns and I will scan someone, I will
see it as areas of dense energy in the energy field.
If I will use my clear sentenance, I will feel it as a tension inside.
So most of the people have lots of tension, for example, in solar plexus or in the throat or in the chest.
But because they're used to that and they have it for so long maybe all their lifetime, they don't recognize it.
But when I scan them, I can sense it.
And then I'm using seven rays and hypnotherapy combined to actually release those blocks.
And when I release them, then the patterns in life and the behavior and the choices, they're changing automatically.
That's interesting.
That's really interesting.
Now, so your website, you help people, you can help consult with them and help advise them, guide them.
I'll let you tell me what things.
What do you do on your website when people need help from you?
And what is it doing there?
Firstly, I have pre-recorded practices and meditations on seven.
rays, they are quite affordable and anyone can try them and you can have a choice depending on
the area of your life, you are willing to improve, you can pick a ray, one ray and it will include
a video and two audio with pre-recorded meditations. My meditations are very professional
with all my knowledge in hypnotherapy and they're very powerful too. Secondly, I can do one-on-one
sessions with whatever is the problem, especially I'm welcoming those with self-sabotage,
imposter syndrome, people who are willing to help others, but they have inner blocks.
I love those people because they're so similar to me.
And also all the psychic people, Claire Sentinan, Claire warned, everyone who is scared of their
own abilities, I will welcome you too.
Also, I'm inviting everyone to read my books, especially the Lightbearers path.
This book is also not just the book.
It is sort of opening your subconscious and opening, it is working on subconscious level
towards connecting to your soul, I would say.
And so what does your typical client look like?
Do they need to have a certain amount of net worth, or is there a certain qualification they
have to be able to work with you?
Tell us about that.
No, nothing special is required.
If you have a feeling, like inner feeling, intuitive feeling that I can help you,
I would recommend to do so because most of my clients, I ask them a lot,
why did you choose me, why you came to me.
They feel inner calling and they have a feeling that I can help them.
And that's the right sign because it's all on intuitive level.
Yeah.
And how do you define intuitive?
How do we know if we have a good, maybe intuitive guide or we have a good tuning where we can tune into our intuition?
I don't know.
That sounds like an interesting question.
I believe that everyone has that, called it God feeling.
And once you start noticing your reactions and being very honest with yourself, you can actually connect with it.
For example, you need to make a choice in your life.
Any kind of choice, either serious choice or simple.
And you just ask yourself, what if I will choose that?
And then you notice what is happening inside, what is in your body, what is in your energy,
like either it feels heavy or it feels light, either it is inspiring or you already have
self-sabotage about that. And when you notice it and when you follow actually what you feel,
this is how you develop your intuition in a very natural way.
It's really wonderful that you're helping people and you can help them kind of unblock
themselves in doing that. Do you put a lot of people under hypnosis where all I know is the
Hollywood thing where you wave the watch back and forth, which I'm sure is maybe manufactured?
But how do people, how do you do hypnosis and I guess it really works in finding out some of the problems people have maybe in the backs of the brains?
There are lots of different methods, how you can put someone into trends.
What I'm using, I'm using official hypnotherapy protocols, which is certain sequence of words.
And at the same time, this is my secret.
I'm using energy.
When you are using energy and my energy is very strong, it makes.
it easier to put someone into trans.
And I had lots of clients who said, I cannot go into trends.
I had clients who believed they only need to use certain substances to go into trance.
But I'm actually, I'm not using any of that because I have the ability to put myself into
trends, easily, energy, yeah.
I have ability to put other people into trends.
also quite easily, even if they cannot be hypnotized by other hypnotherapist.
And I find that the state of trans is a very good state.
Actually, it is healing on its own.
Of course, it is similar to sleep, but it is different,
and it is much more healing that normal sleep.
And actually, the reason I decided to become hypnotherapist,
because I noticed that this is my strongest skill, hypnotize people.
So I decided just to add official information.
And also, of course, I wanted to find all the rules, like how to do that safely,
to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong.
And it did help a lot because I now have all that experience of official hypnotherapy,
which I can add to my own skill.
Wonderful stuff there.
And I notice there's a questionnaire that it's on your website, people can utilize.
Yeah, there is a questionnaire.
I recommend anyone who has any signs of unusual abilities to fill out that form
because I will give a feedback.
It is free.
I will send a voice message of what I can see and what I can sense using my already expertise,
experience, and what I can read from that field.
And then I see you have another section in your website where people can choose the blocks they want to work on.
Like, for example, Red Ray Survival and Financial Blocks, Creative and Pleasure Blocks, Power and Identity Blocks, Love and Trust blocks, or they can just buy all the packages you have on there.
Yeah, they can buy all the packages on start with one.
I made them quite affordable, so they're starting from $19.
dollars so people can test that instrument and see that it is quite powerful.
Wonderful stuff. Wonderful stuff. As we round out the show, give people a final pitch out to
onboard with you and get you to know you more, buy your books and all that good stuff.
Excellent. Thank you so much. Wonderful atmosphere.
Thank you. And it's wonderful to have you too. Give us dot coms. Where can people find you
on the interwebs?
Yep.
Please find me on natalia ray.com or the other website.
And there'll be a link to those in the Chris Voss show.
Thank you very much, Natalia, for coming the show.
We really appreciate it.
Thank you for having me.
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