The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Unshackling The Truth: Triumphant Over Injustice by Keith Tyrone Bush

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

Unshackling The Truth: Triumphant Over Injustice by Keith Tyrone Bush https://www.amazon.com/Unshackling-Truth-Triumphant-Over-Injustice/dp/B0DD5QPHBX This is a true story about a teenage boy victimized by the criminal justice system and made to suffer for over 44-years of his life for a crime he had literally nothing to do with. Moreover, the arresting detectives and prosecutor, to name a few, who took an oath to protect and uphold the law were some of the very same ones who hid information that would have proved his innocence. Instead, they threw him in a cage to die. In one of America’s most shocking criminal justice exoneration cases in the country, for the first time, Keith Tyrone Bush gives his own account of his injustice and leaves us with the journey he travelled to make it back home. In this extraordinary empowerment endeavor, Keith beats the odds and proves the so-called experts wrong. Ultimately, Keith would unshackle the truth and triumphant over injustice!

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Some guests to the show may be advertising on the podcast, but it is not an endorsement or review of any kind. We had an amazing young gentleman on the show. We're going to be talking about his book, his insights, and his experience. His book is entitled, Unshackling the Truth, Triumph. Let me re-cut that. Unshackling the Truth, Triumphant, over Injustice out August 1st, 1st, 2024 by Keith Tyrone Bush. We're going to end with him and find out more about what this book is about.

Unshackling the Truth is a story of resilience, transformation, and exoneration after police brutality, prosecutorial misconduct, and the lack of accountability. There's a story of about an innocent man who spent 44 years of his life under the control of the criminal justice system for a crime he did not commit. despite facing immense adversity, Keith's unwavering determination to be free and foundational approach to self-empowerment now serves as a beacon of inspiration for all those who seek to overcome challenges while embracing personal growth.

Welcome to the show, Keith. How are you? I'm doing fine. Thank you, Chris, for having me. Thank you for coming. We certainly appreciate it. It's honor to have you. Give us your dot-com's website, social media,

wherever you want people to find you on the interwebs. I'm on the TikTok once in a while I go on TikTok Ah Yes K, Bush 57 So I really don't do too much of the social media But once in a while I go on Yeah, it's kind of a wild era there with the social media I mean there's a lot of good information out there

So I use it for that purpose Me, I just doom scroll So the world's going to end The world's going to end You know, that sort of thing Keith, give us a Give us an overview on the facts of the case or what's in the book. Okay.

Really, the book, it starts off with a tragedy. A young girl who had been violently, viciously, and diabolically murdered, attending a party. And the sad part about it is that the crime was so heinous that it, that it literally sent shockwaves, not only in our community, but shockwaves throughout this nation. And worse than that, this book speaks about why her death when it pained because of the investigative process involved. They had failed to give her her justice by properly investigating this case and properly prosecute in this case.

They had disrespected her family. They had disrespected my community and so many other who depend on law enforcement in the prosecution to carry out justice in a crime, particularly of this nature. This book highlights two victims. She is the ultimate victim in this tragedy. This book also talks about another victim, which is myself. I've been a victim of this system for 44 something. years, not because someone made a mistake. They had good intentions and bad investigation may have let them down the wrong road and they may have made some errors. You know, that's, you can't really

hold them accountable for it. This conviction was the result of them throwing this case on top of me. They literally kidnapped me. They deceived and tricked me in their possession, held me for over 11 hours before they were able to force me physically to sign a statement incriminating myself in this case. They arrested me and they kept me in the county jail for 18 months before they tried me. And the matter is that within five months after they did what they did to me, they were confronted with another serious situation where someone had placed themselves at the scene of this crime and has left evidence. And instead of bringing forth justice and exposing this information as exculpatory evidence,

they decided to conceal it. They decided to hide it and just throw the case on me. And as a result of that, there were a lot of other players throughout that period. That were participatory players in concealing the conviction up to 44 something years. 44 years. Do you feel that there was a maliciousness to conceal it or was a laziness or was it racism? What do you think was the reason behind hiding that evidence? If you look at, like when you read the book, there's clear evidence of racism in the book

just by the comments made by the detectives. The leading detectives, one of them had made reference to homicides in the black community as misdemeanor homicides. And that's exactly the way they treated this case like it was a misdemeanor insignificant homicide in spite of what happened to this young girl. This man had also, even after they concealed this information, we were able to uncover this information. He had confide to investigators with reference to me that he told him that, yeah, he remembered this, that nigger Bush and that they should have ever. executed them for this crime.

We understand just from the history of Suffolk County law enforcement and the things that they were involved with particularly, particularly at that time that they were engaged with a lot of racial discrimination in these predominantly black communities, but it wasn't all about racism. There were many people who were victimized by law enforcement in Suffolk County that was black, Latino, white matter. And that's what led to some of the biggest investigations in the country about law enforcement that occurred right there in that particular county. Wow.

That is sad and fortunate. Lay the foundation for this. What time does this take place here? And how old are you? What are you doing? You know, what's this first, what's going on in your life is your first approach by the police and that? And where does it go from there? You know, this was a party.

This was in North Belport, New York, Long Island, New York. This party occurred in 1975. January 10th, 1975, it was a teenage party. We had people from ages, you know, 14 up to 20. Some people had a few older. People come in and going throughout the night. It was over maybe close to 100 people that could have attended that party. And the deceased also attended party, I knew the deceased, I spoke with her on a few occasions.

As business as usual, interactions, introducing the people and just, you know, that type of stuff. But after I left the party, her mother had came looking for her the next day. She was trying to find people that, you know, I spoke with her and knew her. And they stopped by my house and asked me, by the see, I spoke to her, but I didn't see her leave. anybody. I seen a leave out the door, but I didn't see a leave with anybody. And I don't know if she actually left in or she actually came back. But anyway, after a few days, no one, she didn't return home. So there was a hunt. We was everybody was looking, asking people trying to find out where she were. And according to police, they alleged that someone had told, gave them a statement after they found the body that they seen the deceased walk out the house with me and walk down the street with me and, and, and, she became a prime suspect. I mean, she made me a suspect in the case. They needed to speak to me again. Instead of coming to my house to speak to me, they had some friends get me out of school,

used false pretense and deception by telling me one thing, and they got me into the police precinct. And then when my friends came back to try to, you know, locate me, they kept telling them that I wasn't there. So they had essentially placed me in communicator. and then they shipped me off to the head pre-present. And how old are you at this time? I'm 17 years old. You know, 17. You know, I've never been involved in the criminal justice system,

so I have no idea about, you know, what goes on there. You know, you just, you're raised to believe that. You believe in your authorities, and, you know, you follow those basic concepts of decency. You know, you do what you have to do. Obviously, you know, all the realities and. situations that you live in, that you have to, you know, do whatever you have to do to survive. So these are the elements that make us up.

I was a product of that. And as a young man, you know, I had no idea that the police would do what they did to me. But after they had done that to me, it basically, you know, it traumatized me. And as a result of that, I had to go through a number of transformations. I had to go through a number of different stages of realization and ways to do that. deal with, you know, the harsh mistreatment of being abused by the criminal justice system and then

being placed in a cage and being sent there to die. Yeah. Do they give you the death penalty or? They gave me life, life, I had, I had a life sentence. They gave 20 year consideration. So at 20 years, they would consider, you know,

if I was eligible for parole, they gave parole the power to determine if I, couldn't be released at any time that they think it was suitable. They gave me a 20-year sentence with life imprisonment, a 40-year sentence to run concurrent. And, you know, I did 20 years. After I did the first 20 years,

I end up doing an additional 12 years. One of the requirements for parole is you had to admit to guilt. And because I refused to admit to guilt, then the parole board, obviously, they chose that they were not going to entertain that my freedom and it did up until the time I was when I was released. How do you square this?

You know, I ask a lot of people on the show that have unique experiences like yourself that a lot of people don't get to experience. How do you process this and deal with it? What was maybe the journey that you went through of first realizing that

you know, I mean, you're taking off the streets and you know and then you're thrown into prison. for basically life. And how did you process it throughout that thing? For me, you know, like processing begins mentally. I had to go through some mental stages before I could make sense of the reality that I was confronted. And one was with shame, pain, hurt, anger.

These things they grow on you, man, because of what was done to you. the situation you find yourself in. And these things, they're like entities. They want your seat of power. They want to be able to drive their experience through you in the situation that you find yourself in. And I went through that. I fell to some of them things, you know,

going through the pain of this. I have to realize what they said I did and how it affected me. And just the fact that now, you know, like I'm angry about, you know, somebody putting their hands on me and now they don't threw the whole crime on me. And it's like they didn't paint me as this demon that they don't project it to the world so that people would grow to hate me and think that I was this cowardly,

demonic individual that would do something like that. You go through these things and these things, you know, they're wrestling for the right to own you. You know, through that transformation, I had to come to a certain realization. and a lot of it came through my own personal self-studies. You know, you start educating yourself. You start raising questions about things. And I had got to the point where I had to make psychological changes

because, you know, the anger was eating me up. The frustration goes in the doors. They eat at you, you know, like a cancer, you know, it just eats you up. I had to reevaluate things. One of the things I had done that I thought was very key. stone for me was a full mental detoxification. I was. And by that, by that I mean that I had to question everything that defined me as a person. I grew up. I grew up in the black community. I'm a black. I'm a product of a

black experience. There's certain things that we couldn't do. And these things had, I had to take all that off. I had to take off what I believed. And I had to take off this concept of whether, you know, you, let's say if you're a Democrat or Republican or Christian or Muslim, I had to take all that off just to find out who I was. It was at that stage where I begin to my, the rebuilding process. The book outlines some of those processes. Unfolded, you know, throughout the time of my incarceration. So you would see me in different stages, whether I'm studying certain things about creating.

my own reality or having a hand and taking the initiative as opposed to hoping and praying for, you know, a righteous judge to come forward and do what's right. You know, I had to take some of these initiatives on my own. You know, for me, the process had begun, you know, begun with me being able to at least start from the starting point and then build that character up to the person that I became today. That's really hard to tear yourself down and then look at yourself and then try and rebuild who you are. And I imagine some of what you had to rebuild had to be survival-based because, you know, prison is a day-by-day, you know, it's a survival arena, really, when it comes down to it.

And you can be killed, you can be attacked. You know, there's things that can happen in there. There's all sorts of different personalities and people and some are, you know, maybe not bad. and some are really bad. And so you're confronted with that on a daily basis, right? Prison is exactly a microcosm of the outside world. Everything that you experience in there, you will experience in there. You're going to have people that are striving on a positive path,

trying to do something for themselves. There are people that, you know, they've made reconciliation with themselves. they're in trying to find the Lord. You have some people that are, they're gang oriented, some people are robbing people, some people, you know,

so the things that you see out in this society, you see in there because they're just reflections of, they're a mirror of each other. But for me, you know, the objective was clear, you know, if I didn't find a way to free myself,

I would die in a cage. And so I'm not really concerned about the lifestyle that prison offers. I know where, I need to be in what I need to do to get there. For you get up, you fall, you get up. At some point you learn. And in that learning process, it was clear to me that I needed to be on this path. And if there's anybody that's on that path that's trying to move me off,

then I'm going to have to accept that challenge when it gets there. I'm determined. I'm determined to get what I want out of it. Did you, I mean, I imagine you had a public defender, right? I had a public defender. We had a private, we had a private attorney that tried to do. That, yeah, it was Simon and Simon. It was one of the, they were actually one of the top lawyers on Long Island.

And, you know, obviously my family, they came together and they did what they can. And, you know, I was a young boy. You know, they helped me get a lawyer. And, you know, so we had, we had a good lawyer, but we had a crooked system. Yeah. We had a crooked system where every. everything goes. And in that system, it didn't matter who you had. It got to the point where the system was so bad that they started trying to intimidate a judge that led to a commission of investigation of Suffolk County. Just as a result of that. And the main detectives that sparked the investigations were the main detectives in my case. These are the ones who walked away with pensions at the highest in the country for what they did in this case. And all the things they did to other people, some people who've been also been exonerated,

all the things they've done to them, they walked with, even though they compensated some, some people for these damages, they're still sitting on the highest pensions in the country. Wow. There's no accountability for this stuff. Yeah. And that is interesting to me. We were talking the pre-show about how, you know, you received the payoff for the damages against you. Do you feel that, I think it was like $16 million, is that correct?

Yes. Yeah. Do you feel that that can justify or pay, but how do you feel about that? Can they justify losing 44 years of your life? I never fought for money. I never even imagined. I never, that never even really entered my mind. Freedom was probably worth more, huh?

I was insulted. You know, you put your hands on me. you threw a crime on me that you know I didn't do. Then when you found out that you really made a mistake, instead of coming forward and doing what just people do, you did what demons do. You do what devils do. You turned around and you threw it on me.

And in every facet of the system I entered into, whether it's corrections, whether it's parole, that everybody's, you're jumping on me because I won't submit to you. Like submission is the will, you know, of the day. You know, that if you don't submit, then, you know, so I didn't care about no money. I cared about what they did to me. And the reason why they were able to do it to me is because they've been doing it for so long. And they have never been put in check, even though they've been investigated by so many other people,

whether it's the commission, whether it's the governor, whether it's the circuit courts, whether it's the bar associations and experts around the country, raising questions about these numbers being too high, it doesn't matter. You know, what really mattered is that they didn't care about me. So for me, it was, it was war. So there really wasn't anyone really held accountable for it that was the initial propagators of this then? No, there was not. The prosecutor had, he had died. There was the two detectives that were the main detectives in this case.

were still alive. And, you know, like I said, after they exonerated me and apologized and compensated me, they continue to, by this county pays me. The county also pays the person responsible from having to pay me. So they're paying twice. Wow. That is just, that is just wild. What kept you going through those times? Was there a book? You know, some people turn to the Bible. some people turn to some sort of stoicism or inspiring a tone that might, you know, help keep you have hope. I mean, I imagine you maintained hope through this whole process and all these years. What really kept me going is I got to the point where I wanted to fight. You know, I wanted to fight this system.

I had got involved in any, any type of efforts against the criminal justice system. I was involved in it because I felt like this system was an oppressor to me. And I'm looking at my personal experience. And then I had another thing that kept me going to is I had to come to terms with myself and I began to read. And one of the things I read some stuff on, I read some stuff on the Seth material. I read some stuff on the hermetic philosophy. I'm reading and then I'm reading some cultural stuff because I got guys in the prison system. And I think a lot of people have a misunderstanding about most prisoners is that they look at these guys as if they're, you know, they're treacherous, their demons and all the other stuff.

And some of them have committed some very, very harsh crimes. Come to learn that you can't separate the good from the bad. There's no such thing that that's a social indoctrination. You know, you are a product, you are a manifestation. of what you carry out. That's who you become, but you have that power to choose and to decide. And make those decisions, they're accountable for their actions. And that's why they end up there.

But some of these men were very intelligent. Some of these men were my teachers. And they passed on information. And the stuff that I inspired to wasn't the stuff that was really pushing me to become a part of somebody, but was to challenge me to believe in myself and to believe that, you know, that these belief systems are designed for control. I begin to study, the more I learned, the more I realized that I was asleep. And so many millions of others, they have been actually put to sleep with lies. And when I started to see the truth, then I was able to turn my cage into a cave.

And believe me, I did a lot of my work inside that cage, that cave late at night when most people were asleep. I was studying, reading, and preparing and executed. Did you, what was the proponent that started this process of re-looking at the evidence? Had you been finding it legally this whole time? Or go ahead. Oh, excuse me. What I did is, we perceive.

with a direct appeal. I went through the appeal process. And when was that? And that was in 1980. I had 1980s the second circuit of New York State, they sent my case back down to the county court for a hearing based on an issue of probable cause. It's a new case that came out in the United States Supreme Court about deception on minors and all that stuff. And the case had fit my case like a tailor a suit. So I didn't think they would want that case to go into this up to the it. It wouldn't have never made it to the Supreme Court. The higher courts would have probably threw it out.

But anyway, they sent me back to determine a probable cause hearing. And the prosecution's star witness, the one who claimed that she seen me leave the party with the victim, she came forward and she admitted that she lied. Wow.

So she, she, she recanted her testimony. They threatened her. We can put you in jail for perjury. And she She can't take it no more. She, you know, she tried to commit suicide. She had lost her baby. She had a baby boy.

At the time, she was on trial. She was pregnant. And six months after a baby boy died. So she felt like God was punishing her for what she did to me. And, you know, these are things that's working on her psyche. And so anyway, she recants. But the trial judge, they deny it. They deny the hearing.

They denied a recantation. the appellate the court the appellate division they denied the motion the circuit the the department denied and then the appellate division denied the motion now i'm at i'm left to go to the federal courts i go to the federal courts i got a mixed petition i got to redo that so i do a collateral attack i do correct the mix miss petition and then i'm in the federal court they deny it then i do some collateral information i find new information because now i'm learning this learning the powers of objectivity i'm i'm stepping outside the prison walls now i want to use the pin as my as my vehicle i'm i'm making connections and and you know i'm finding out things and so now i

get new evidence i'm back in court i'm in court with that they're denying that now they're denying just about everything now at one point i'm looking i got 10 12 years and and and everything is gone when they take, you know, they deny everything. Now you have to start where. You have to, you have to find another way, you know. So I began to search other ways and I was able to get some people involved. I got Innocent Project involved, the Centurian Ministry. And New Jersey, they had got involved with my case and was working for a number of years with me with it.

But there were too many roadblocks. They refused to let us talk to the medical examiner. Really? There was roadblocks like crazy. And I knew that they were hiding something. They were hiding something because one thing I learned about, you know, when you're trying to address something that you cover everything, try to wherever there is, a lead, explore it.

And I was aware of the fact that they had hidden. Someone had told my mother, she said, listen, your son is innocent. Don't always, you know, keep fighting because, you know, I'm not at a liberty of talking about the case, but just tell them just keep fighting. But, you know, when she first told me that, I knew something was on because I always felt that they were hiding something. So anyway, I did a, on 1989, I did a FOIA request to the district attorney action for complete files, everything, all known, unknown, everything you got. If data sent that information to me at the time that I made that request, then in 1989, I would have got exonerated.

Wow. But instead, they sent me everything but that. And then the district attorney who was ahead of it, who's now a judge, Hittling, he's a judge. Then in these other collateral attacks, these other district attorneys that was pushing back on my case and all that, these districts, some of my judges now, the one that really got Tom Spoto, the one that got convicted, right? Once he got convicted, that opened the doorway for my exoneration because he was pushing back on my conviction for 12 years. even after I had DNA evidence that also proved that I didn't commit the crime. DNA, too? Wow.

They denied the motion and pushed back on my conviction. But this is the same guy with the right-hand man to the district attorney who did that file stuff to me in 1975. Really? Wow. They're playing these same games for decades. Wow. Taking each other's back. He went out and became a private lawyer and then got some of these other. lawyers out of the district attorney and all that and form the dream team on long

Allen where they were actually representing judges and politicians and police officers and with the one hand in the district attorney's office they in the other hand as attorneys representing them getting them off cases this culture this this this practice was so bad it was so terrible that it took one one man Tim Tim Sini, who would be after this district attorney, Tim Spoto, when he fell, he got arrested and he got convicted. And when he came aboard, he promised to clean up the county. And he was going to do some things. He had implemented that conviction review board and all the other stuff.

That's how they took on my case after we had put all the facts of our case together. Wow. And it's supposed to have been frustrating to constantly have, you know, think maybe there's some progress. here. You've maybe got some evidence that, you know, the testimony against you was erroneous. But still, you can't get free of the system. You're just, you just,

it just keeps sucking you back in, to quote, Godfather, too. Yeah, you know, when you look at this case, not only did the district attorney and the two detectives that were involved in this case were sitting

there trying to figure out how they're going to manipulate this new evidence of someone who put themselves at the crime scene. But you had the medical doctor, you had the detective in serology, they're testifying giving opinions, scientific opinions about situations that can't be factuated, that there has no database from which to draw from.

So when you look at how all these players actually participated, then you can actually see that the, not only the district attorney and police officers, but medical examiners and other expert witnesses and all of them was also given heronious testimonies to render convictions. But the sad part is, I'm not the only one that happened to. Bless you. I'm not the only one that happened to. It happened to many people on Long Island. There's a lot of cases like this. There's a lot of cases around the country where this type of practice, misinformation, tampering with evidence, confessions, and all this other stuff is universally applied in the black communities. Yeah.

Yeah. What do you hope? What did it feel like to be exonerated and get your day in court and be freed? What did that feel like? I mean, there's always a, it feels like. Bitter sweet, maybe? It's better than bittersweet. It feels like we've been carrying a mountain on your.

shoulder, you know, for so long that people think you have a hunchback, you know, and you push that mountain off, you know, and, you know, you just feel a sense of relief. But I'm also aware of the fact that, you know, in many ways, I hit the lot. You know, there are guys that's in the prison system, there are women in the prison system that are being exonerated all the time now. Wow. Yeah. Thanks to, you know, thanks to things like DNA testing and more so thanks to righteous individuals who have the courage to stand up and right or wrong when they see it

and not go with the grain. One of the problems in my case, there were people that they could have stopped this many many years ago, but everybody went with the grain. If they were to step forward and did something different, then that would have happened. What was the motivation to publish the book and share your story? I didn't know if I was going to die in prison. I got to the point where you exhaust all your remedies, you know, you explode all your avenues.

Now you got to, you know, you got to keep, you know, looking and looking. but it was important for me. The way they painted me, the way they defined me, and the way they treated me, the way they treated the deceased, the way they treated her family, my family, my community. It was important for me to tell this story.

And I had to tell this story out of my own mouth. You may read the newspapers. You may have seen some of the clippings, or you may have heard some of the other people. But I have to tell you, this story out of my mouth and I try to lean on that avenue that inspires people. I don't care which a situation is you don't have to be in prison for a day or a moment. You can be in prison mentally because you're in the state of confusion and you just can't

find your way through, you know, and you're trapped there. But, you know, you have to make that initiative because you're, you know, you've been born to be built like that because these are your training grounds. And, you know, I had to, I had to at least let people know that regardless to what you're going through, that, you know, you can persevere. It's not guaranteed, but when you put your best effort forward, you can live with that. But more importantly, that at some point, America is going to have to take a detoxification of all these systems that defined us and find out what it is do we want for America. And what we want for the people of America?

And that boils down to the question of accountability. Yeah. And for me, I just wanted to say in that book that, you know, in spite of all that, people are not being held accountable for what they do. So when you have the rich and the poor, you know, you know, for the rich, you know, their inherited glory, it sits on their wealth and power and fame. but for the poor prison awaits, you know, usually with depth and suffering. Yeah.

And people have to make that decision on, you know, what type of world do they want to live in? Because when you live in a world where there's no accountability, then you live in a world of chaos. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, I mean, there should be more remedy for, there should be more remedy for making sure these things don't happen in the first place. But also cleaning up police departments of racism and different things. I mean, it seems like that body seems to sometimes attract people that aren't of the highest order of ethics. You know, we're seeing that in our ICE police right now in 2026, where they're circumventing the ethics and morals, even the amendments of the Constitution to fit their narrative, what they want to take and do. And this is where injustice usually happens.

And, yeah, I mean, it's quite the experience he went through. And people should definitely read the book and realize the depth of it and how important it is. So we make sure these things don't happen. As we go out, give us your final pitch out for people who order up the book and find out more about you and your story. As far as the book is concerned, you can get the book at Amazon, Bonds and Nobles. You know, it's my version. You know, it's my experience. and I hope that it, you know, can inspire, you know, people to accept their own challenges, whatever it is in life.

And but more importantly, to know yourself, to educate yourself and, and to realize that you are, you know, you're the one that's creating the world. Each one of you, each at a time. But as an individual, without you, the world is really not the same. It's something different, you know, you are a place. player, you know, in this world, and you get a chance to play righteously or unrighteously, but there should always be accountability. Wow. Wow. There should always be. And, you know, it's sad that you go to jail, but the people who falsify this crime against you don't. And they're still getting paid,

as you mentioned, the pensions. Give us your dot com as we go out or websites, wherever you want people to find you on the internet. My, usually people send things to my email, Keith T-Bus, 5,000. 757 at yahoo.com. I usually do a lot of things through the email. Did they ever find her killer? There's a section in the book. The problem was, is that they would have found a killer if they would have done the job.

If they would have done the job, yeah. But by not doing it, this guy went on to, you know, he committed other crimes. He impregnated an underage girl. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, he did all types of violent and wild stuff. But that's because obviously they didn't do the job that they did. So other people had to. There's a section in the book I heard to who killed, you know, Cherise.

And what I did is through all the investigation I'd done throughout my years and all the leads and Avenue, some were contradictory or whatever. I laid out the whole scenario of what came out of that investigation. And I left it up to the reader to decide. So many people victimized. all over a lie. It's crazy. Thank you, Keith, for coming the show. We really appreciate it. One an amazing story. I mean, we have a lot of stories on this show about people who go through cathartic moments and they survive. But 44 years, that's, I mean, those are some of the best years of your life that are irreplaceable and probably invaluable, really. And thank you

for sharing your story with us, sir. Yeah, you're welcome. And Chris, these are the best years in my life. I mean, every day, that's what I try and remind myself. I think we all look at sometimes our past and go, I wish that hadn't happened, but. But I keep finding myself in the moment. Yeah. You know, but these are my best years. Man. Every day, I mean, you can't change the past.

All you can do is to really impact for the future by what you do right now in this moment. And thank you for sharing your story, Keith. Folks, overed up his book where refined books are sold, unshackling the truth, triumphant over injustice out August 1st, 2024. Thanks for my minutes for tuning in. Go to Goodrease.com, Fortresschus Christchristch, Chris Foss, LinkedIn.com, Fortress Chris Foss, 1 on the TikTok, and y'all's crazy place to that in it. Be good at each other.

Stay safe. We'll see you guys next. You've been listening to the most amazing, intelligent podcast ever made to improve your brain and your life. Warning, consuming too much of the Chris Walsh Show podcast can lead to people thinking you're smarter, Younger and irresistible sexy. Consume in regularly moderated amounts. Consult a doctor for any resulting brain bleed. All right, Keith.