The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Walk by Faith with God as Your Compass by Debra Lee Fader

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

Walk by Faith with God as Your Compass by Debra Lee Fader https://www.amazon.com/Walk-Faith-God-Your-Compass-ebook/dp/B0GK558ZVF Queenofkindness.org Kindnessalliances.org How does a singer, dancer, and top Vegas entertainer recover from this? Debra Lee Kristian-Fader was enjoying a successful career in the Live Entertainment Industry. She was performing as a singing star on the stages of Las Vegas, Atlantic City, the Caribbean Islands, and aboard Luxury Cruise Ships. With a home base in Los Angeles, Debra Lee anticipated a commercial, recording and film career. After much prayer, and the resolve to follow the plan that God was beckoning her to follow, Debra Lee changed her trajectory. She packed up her belongings and moved back to Minnesota. With an adapted career choice as a radio broadcaster and worship director, Debra Lee was fulfilled with her new life. God was now her full time Compass. She walked a new path with gratitude and faith. Every aspect of her life resonated with blessings. Then, her life changed one morning when she literally fell out of bed, unable to walk.

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Deborah Lee Fader joins us in the show. We're going to get into it with her. Get all the deets. The deets is the kids don't say. It's very suss. I don't even know what that means, but the kids say it. If you're watching this 20 years from now, it's probably a whole different genre of whatever Gen A is saying.

But Deborah Lee, Fader is an internationally awarded entertainer, former mayor, community leader. Have we been mayors on the show before? I think we have. We have a congressman on and people aren't from present. And she's a best-selling author. More than this, she is a servant of God. She promotes the Golden Rule while giving back. She's the founder of two 501 C3 charity nonprofits. For 15 years, she's produced and directed the hometown hero's holiday live charity show and the Hollywood on main event center in Mont Video, Minnesota. She currently broadcast her show, Queen of Kindness for PTWNTV, the Roku Channel. Deborah Lee champions the need for faith

in all aspects of living, believes in the power to start over and come back no matter what your age or circumstance. All this on top of it. Deborah Lee is a mother and a doting grandmother. Welcome the show. How are you, Deborah? Chris, thank you so much for having me on your show. I am fantastic. Ready to talk. Ready to talk. Well, I hope so, because we got this podcast thing we do. And so it's good you're here. We got everything set up. We might as well do a podcast, right? So give us Debra, your dot-com and links to websites. Okay. So as far as links with the book and with my store, you can go to Debraleyfeeder.com. For the Queen of Kindness TV show, you can go to queen of kindness.cominess.org or kindness alliances.org.

And we are all about spreading kindness and want to create a movement and leadership within the actual organization so that people become kinder. We don't want nasty people either, just like Chris said. He doesn't want any nasty people. We don't either. So we're trying to build the world and make the world a better place. Yeah. Less nasty people or evil people, bad, bad, bad. You don't want to the newspaper.

No, no, I don't hit people. I'm just joking. Anyway, so give us a 30,000 over you. What's inside your book, Walk by Faith? Okay, well, my book is Walk by Faith. God is your compass. I was originally an entertainer for many, many years. I worked in Las Vegas, and I believe is your show out of Las Vegas, Chris? It's based in Las Vegas. Yes, and I lived there many, many years and did shows all over the world. And what I enjoyed about that was at that time in

my life, singing for other people and the audiences. It meant every. It meant every. everything to me, it was my lifetime fulfillment. However, one day I decided that I needed to sing for God. So I made a change of my trajectory and decided to pack up my belongings. I lived in Los Angeles and had been touring on cruise ships and doing all of these shows and hoping for a career in the movies and all those things that a person aspires to when you move to L.A. but I decided it was time for me to go home. And so I moved back to Minnesota, became a broadcaster, and was a broadcaster on radio and did some television as well. If you don't mind me interrupting, what led you into getting into broadcasting?

What was the motive? Well, what it was is that I was a singer. I was used to using my voice. I was on, I was in floor shows, in production shows. I did so much, but it was time. It seemed that everybody around me was still 22. It was always 22. And I was getting older and older.

And I used to be the baby in the show, so they used to call me baby. Wow. Yeah. And then one day I wasn't baby anymore. But at that point, I just, I felt that I needed to make a change in my life. So I moved back to Minnesota, and I met my husband, and I met, and I, and really, and rekindled all my old relationships with family and friends. And my whole life changed. And the fulfillment was unbelievable. I became a worship director for Crossroads Church in Lakeville. And all

things were going really well. And then one day in 2006, I woke up, I got out of bed. I fell to my knees. And then I fell on my face. And I couldn't move a muscle. I was paralyzed. Oh, wow. Yeah. And I detail that in the actual book. And so it took many, many years for them to figure out what was wrong with me. So it seemed, it took a long time I was using. I was in and out of wheelchairs, using walkers. I still use walkers and I still use canes to this day. I've had a lot of therapy on my, you know, with my legs to learn to walk again. And it's been quite, quite the journey. And I couldn't have done it without God as my compass. So that is what I talk about in the book. I bring up the compass. I bring up the fact that all of us go through living in the wilderness, running from one side of the path to the other side of the path.

And then hopefully we eventually will center in on God and the will of God and try to reach for the face of God. and all of those other things. The path will become a little more narrow, but we will be searching for God's face. And as we search for God's face and the path narrows, we become much more akin to a godly and a holy experience in this life and hopefully we'll be able to move on to a heavenly eternity.

and that's what my book is about. So did they find out what was the ailment that you were suffering from? Let me tell you. They didn't know. We thought at first that I had Lyme disease. And so I was given all sorts of intravenous medication for Lyme. And then what happened is I was doing well. I was able to stop using my cane as much as I was.

was. And then one day I got a bad cold and I went all the way back to the beginning and I had to start all over. I had doctors arguing amongst themselves as to what I had. And I did not know from 2006 until 2013 as I became worse and worse and worse again that I indeed. had multiple sclerosis. It wasn't coming up in the charts. It wasn't coming up in my blood. It was nowhere to be found. And then finally, I went to Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. And after two weeks of a lot of testing, they figured it out. And then that was in 2013. And I was very glad to know what it was. But everybody around me fell apart because it was, oh my gosh. gosh, she's got MS. Well, I wasn't going to let that stop me from continuing my goals and being mayor and doing all the things I wanted to do. And actually what happened is it did try, start to heal me myself. You know, I was healed through God, through Jesus. And then finally, in 2017, there was a medication that had just been approved. by the FDA, and I got on it right away.

I was one of the first people in Minnesota to actually receive the medication. So this, and I get an intravenous medication every six months. And it's quite a process. I'm there all day. It used to be a cancer drug. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know the name of it?

My sister has some of this. Yes, I do. It's called Okvus. Opavis. Okravis. O-C-R-V-U-S. Yeah, so it's O-C-R-E-V-U-S. Okay, I see it here.

Yes. And I talk about it actually in my book and give a lot of credit to Genentech because they're the ones that created it. And I always say, people say to me, well, if you're such a believer in God, you know, why can't you just walk? it's a miracle. And I say, hey, wait a minute. Sometimes miracles come in the form of a medication. It's not always straight ahead. You're going to walk perfectly again. But that's a God thing. This medication has, it's kept me at bay. I'm pretty much where I was in 2017. So I do have to use walkers and I do have to use pains, but I haven't gotten any worse. That's good.

So, you know, knock on wood, praise the Lord, I am walking. So for me, the reason my book is called walk by faith is because I literally take each step every day by faith. And when I get up in the morning, the first thing I say is, dear God, please help me. Make sure I can get through this day. You've given me another day. Thank you. Make sure I make the most of it.

And so that's how I live my life. Walk by faith with God as my couple. So he's my direction. My turn. Keeps you grounded. Keeps you focus on the day. You know, that's one of the biggest challenges. I was going to say it was either MS or Lyme disease, but you ruled out Lyme disease early.

And yeah, both those diseases get really confusing results when doctors try and, you know, I've known people, they've gone through the whole freaking, you know, they've had everything tested in the world, and it turns out it's Lyme disease. Yeah, that's true. It's just crazy, you know, same thing with MS. It can be so missed. In fact, I've had people who had Lyme disease get diagnosed with MS in terms of they have Lyme disease.

It's, you've got to love our medical system sometimes. Well, and it's, it was kind of difficult when I received the Lyme disease because there was no, not only no medication, insurance, didn't want to pick anything up. Oh, yeah. Because Lyme wasn't considered an actual medical problem. What? Yeah. It didn't want to pay the bills.

You know, it was really nuts. But my whole life changed when I finally had the diagnosis of MS. Finally, prescriptions could be covered. Yes. So, but things have changed a lot. It was in 2016 when Lyme was actually able to be covered under insurance. Wow. That's crazy.

That wasn't covered before. You know, they know that Lyme disease, you know, it can cause all sorts of things. You know, MS is the same way. You wake up in the morning, you never know what you're going to have. Exactly. You know, sometimes, you know, my sister's eye won't work, one of her eyes and it's looking there. I have that with this eye. Yeah.

And then next day she can't use her arm, one of her arms. Yeah. It's just, it's a vicious disease. It truly, truly is. But how long has she been ill, Chris? She's been, she got it when she was 19. Oh my goodness. And she had the crippling kind, the kind that will kill you by about 40, 50.

Yeah. It's a miracle. She's, well, I think she's almost 50 now. She's seven years younger than me. Yeah, she's 51. one. But she's been in, she's been in care centers for last 15 years. Oh my goodness. About five years before that, my mom took care of her in her basement.

Yeah. And basically it was, but once, once it became, you know, she needed two people hold her up and bathe her and stuff. Then, but yeah, she's, and she's got dementia now. She's had dementia for a long time. God bless her. There's two kinds of MS when I understand. There's one that if you just, if you take care of it, you don't stress yourself out.

you don't overheat yourself. I think heat's a big thing, if I recall rightly. And you can live a full life. You just got to take care of yourself. And stress is one thing that's, like, really damaging with MS. And you're like, how do you go through life without stress? It's true. Stress is the common denominator that we all feel.

I would believe that your sister has what I have, which is primary progressive. MS. Oh, that's my mom. Yeah. And that's the one that will take you down. And you get worse every year. And so what I guess I'm trying to say is it might not be too late for her to be prescribed

Okravis, which might help her at least maintain where she's at right now without getting worse. About losing more ground. Well, I'm glad you're sharing your stories so that people can. can know because there's a lot of people that you know when I was a kid there was a Galliner neighborhood MS and that's when I first heard about it and I used to walk for the multiple sclerosis society

when as a kid I used to raise money and do the walk thing and they do wonderful work there I guess I wish you would think after 40 years they would have solved multiple sclerosis for all that money but what do I know so well the fun of it is that there are medications

now for what they call relapse re-it and that's the one that if you catch it right away, you can, they also will give Okervist, people with relapse, remit. But it's the people, somebody like myself that wasn't properly diagnosed or like your sister who has had it for teen years. I mean, I would say she's had it 30 years. And yeah, she has. And so for me, it's 20 years. imagine. But because I was able to get this medication, it's been held at bay a little bit. So I'm grateful. Yeah, it's good. We need to definitely rework our system. So let's move from the book

and your stories there to what you do on your show. Well, what I do on my show, it's a, yeah, I'll sing. I'll do a song and I'll interview someone else. And I'll interview artists. or other authors or this last show that I just did, I had Bishop Gata on the show. And she has a church plant that is started in Bangladesh. And I think it was probably Kenya, but she's branched out into other places as far as church plants. And I've had people that are, we talk about addiction. We talk about whatever comes up.

And those are the people that I have, and I have people that have been addicted to very hard drugs. You'd have to, if you're interested, I could interview you on my show. That would be a fun thing to do. Yeah. And it's all about kindness, and it's all about trusting in your higher power. The higher power is so important. What do you find, did the M.M. affect your voice and singing? I mean, if that's kind of your gift in life, it kind of

can be rocky. It did. Before I had, it was in the summer of 2006. I was recording an album, actually, and my voice sounded horrible. And my person that was doing all the sound in the production, And he said, you know, I think you need to go home and take a nap or something because you, your vibrato is all over the place and you're shaky and you're off key and all of these things that you never are. I still have problems with intonation now. I'll think I'm on key and I'm not. But you kick in your vibrato and that helps bring you right back. Yeah, you just power through it and just overwhelming. power through it and and it's great.

It's good. I have a legitimate voice, trained in opera and all of those things. And then a rock voice. I, you know, I did a lot. You know, I was in Las Vegas. You've got to be able to adapt. Cruner. Yeah, I was a croon.

I do the bravado with the shampoo and the shower, but that's, you know, you're me live. That's for sure. You know, you mentioned you sing on the show. We joke sometimes about this show. kind of because there's a singing at the beginning by the opera singer. And we had this idea for a show where the whole thing is singing. It's like, you know how they have movies that are talked down?

But they used to have those singing movies where everybody sang through it and you wanted to punch their face all the time. Musical music music movies. Lawrence Welk things are just like, I'm going to choke that guy out. No, I'm just kidding. Lawrence Welk was very nice. My grandmother used to watch all the time. I'm just being a shit.

It's okay. Yeah. But we were thinking about doing a podcast where I would have to sing the questions. Everything in the show has to be sung. Would you like to do that now? I'm not sure I want to test that with my audience. I know how it happens. Because you have a voice for singing and you have talent and skill and everything you

developed for years. I have like, uh, uh, anyway. Uh, so with your show, how can people subscribe to it? How can they get on it? If they're interested, how can they find it, etc., etc.

Okay, well, it's preach the word worldwide network.com? Network? Network. Okay. So you can look for that, and that's on Roku, and you can find all sorts of, there are all sorts of people that are on that show that have a lot of good podcasts out there. you've got the Copeland's, you've got all these different people that are on this show. And anyway, so they have their own shows.

And each slot is 30 minutes. So you actually record about 28 minutes, so then there's room for commercials and that kind of thing. And so if you're interested, you can always contact me. You can contact me at www. org and fill out the little slip that's in there. And I'll get it. It's because it'll come to me in an email form, which is support at queen of kindness.

com, kindness. org or support at kindness alliances. Dot work. And let's talk about kindness alliances.org too. That's one of your other links. What do you do there with a nonprofit? Tell us in depth about that. Well, you talked a little bit about,

me putting on a show for 15 years. So that is a charity that is in Minnesota, in Montevideo, Minnesota, which I used to be the mayor of Montevideo for eight years. Yeah. And so my dearest friend has the theater there, and she completely renovated it. It's now an event center. And we started with the Christmas show. And this was back in 2011. Let me see, 2010. And so then from there, it just grew and it grew. And then what we would do is we'd always ask for $5 up front to come in. And then if they wanted to, they could bring a can of food, non-perishable food.

And so we would give to the food shelf locally. and we've given a couple of tons of food up at this point. Yeah, in a smaller town. And so we have that and we give coats and, you know, coats for adults and children and mittens. And we do things for the women's shelters. So it's all about charity. And that is the name of the game here for me at this point in my life is to be able to help other people. And that's what the Queen of Kindness is all about. And the

kindness alliances is to, that particular website shows you the different acts that we've had on our show. We have people that come from, actually, I have some people that come from all over the world to be in the show and all over the United States. And they just happen to have a common thread to Montevideo. So they want to come and see their family members or spend time seeing their old friends,

that sort of thing. So then they'll be in the show as well. Yeah. So I have one... Yeah, I have one fellow. He's a violinist, very well-known violinist Nuno and Nuno Flores is his name. And he

comes sometimes and then he's in the show. And we have people from all over. And a lot of the people are also professionals in the state of Minnesota. So they come and they do the show and we're just all aligned on being as charitable as we can during the holidays. And that's our main goal there. And we also put on multicultural worship shows and we do veterans, shows. We can do all sorts of shows, whatever anybody wants to see. Any show you want.

Yeah, we're like put up, you know, Judy Garland, put up a barn. We've got a barn we're going to put up a show in here today. But no, the theater itself is really gorgeous and really it's, she did a fabulous job of remodeling it at one point that it was a, it was the, first movie house in Montevideo, and so it came onto the scene in the middle of the 30s, 1930s, that is. And when she took it over, they had just gotten rid of all the trees that were growing in the theater itself. And then she redid the whole theater. It's just fabulous.

And her name is Ruth Ann Lee, and just a great. gal and her whole family is marvelous. Naturally, she's in the hospital right now, so I want to give a shout out to Ruthie. Get well, Ruth Ann, I love you. You know that. Get well, Ruth Ann. Yeah, get well. You can't go anywhere yet.

Yeah. I won't let you. I mean, it's not up to me. She goes by the will of God as well. So we have a lot of people that are very involved and very spiritual. in nature. You know, people have, we are spiritual by, half of our self is, of course, logical and uses cognitive usages and we're physical, but we also have a spiritual side and that if it, if it isn't taken up with the good things, that's where those bad things can get in there

because it is spirit. Yeah, yeah. I had some bad things last night. Pizza and tacos. Oh, I would call it was bad. Bad for your diet, that is. You know, it's a lot of fatty food,

a lot of fatty greens. Well, you know, you get to a certain point where you kind of, we do at my house, you know, we just want to enjoy the life that we have at this point. You know, we're closer to. the end than we are in our 20s. So it's, you know, speak for yourself. Well, I know. I'm grandma. You know, that makes no...

I feel it every morning when I get up. Yeah, it's tough. But if you have bad with you... I shouldn't complain to someone at SMS because it is clearly spin the wheel at what ailment you might have today. But the joke you have when you get over like, what is it, 40, you're like, yeah, just you wake up every day and go, what sort of ailment you have today? I shouldn't complain.

I should say is thank you God for giving me this beautiful day. Now let me make the most of it. Yeah. Can you fix my back too while you're at it? Yeah. We all have that. Let me ask you this. You build as the queen of kindness.

And clearly in your nature, you try to, what's the word? You try to act that way. Yes. Emulate kindness. Did you find emulate? Yeah. The, I flunk second grade. So with, it's a callback joke.

Was that hard to be the queen of kindness when you're the mayor? Because sometimes when you're doing like politics or even just a leader of anything or any organization, you're never going to make everyone happy, right? Was it hard to be the queen of kindness and be mayor? Or did you just rule with an iron fist? Well, you know, you do have the bully pulpit. Oh, yeah. And the cops on your side. In politics, I'd love to do more in politics, but because of this MS, it's better for me to try to talk to people and, you know, spread the kindness while sitting at my desk, which I'm doing with you right now.

So rather than trying to get out there every day and, you know, walk the streets and canvas and neighborhoods and all of that, although I call my car. car, my gassed up wheelchair. But the question you had for me, can you repeat it? Do you remember? So was it hard to be the queen of kindness when you're, you know, you're doing a lot of, a lot of leadership, whether it's politics or whether it's a business or any list. So if you're a parent, there's there's points where the people who are, you know, constructed to follow you or be under your rule, quote unquote, as it were, you know, you can't make everyone happy. So I was just wondering, you know, being the queen of kindness, is it more challenging to try and pull it off as a mayor or leader? Well, it can be, but if you follow the golden rule, which is do unto others as you would

have done to yourself, and that's kind of the way I approached my political side, because as a mayor of a smaller town, and I'm not sure about this, but mayors in general have to be non-political. You have to appeal to a broad source of your population. So you really shouldn't be running, you can run in larger cities such as New York and Los Angeles, you know, all the big ones, under a party. But I think the idea is to be in the center, in the center, and cooperate. So you have to cooperate with all of your officials, your government officials, and your school boards, and all of the people that run the city, the people that handle the roads. We have Mindot in this state.

So you're working with all of these different people. And the idea I really believe is to be positive and lift other people up. So it's kind of like being a minister, but it is, it's important to be positive. Ah. Because there are so many people, as we're seeing in Minnesota right now, there are so many people with so many different views. And we need to work together. We all need to work together. And so that's what I believe the mayor should do.

And I also so galvanize. And I also believe in the governors and all of these other people, we need to galvanize. We need to put people together. We need to try to bridge that gap. And that's how I ran my campaign and ran with the people in my town. Yeah. So we did have, because I speak Spanish too, I have that background. We do have a lot of Hispanics and the name of Montevideo is the same as Montevideo, Uruguay, which is an Uruguay.

I went down to Uruguay and met the mayor down there and the former president, Pepe, they used to call him Pepe. And that was in 2012. So, I mean, you have to center in on who your people are, who your, quote-unquote constituents are. And they come from all walks of life, all kinds of political backgrounds, heritage backgrounds. And that's what I try to, I guess, espouse to is to take care of the people, all of the people, no matter what background or political. affiliation they were with. Well, all politics is local, as they say. Yeah, it is.

There's a lot of performative crap that goes on at the national level. But at the local level, you know, we've had great governors on the show and great, I think we have some mayors or people who are mayors. But, you know, we just have the good people on, the people aren't, you know, ones you see on the evening news that, like, this person said something on fire in the Congress. That sort of crap, you know. And they do it for, what is it, the small donations or whatever. or performative politics, if you will.

And so, yeah, it's good that you do that. Now, I know it's on your website. You've got a couple other books, I think you're mentioning. One with the gentleman from the soup thing, I think of our call. Yeah, you're thinking of Jack Canfield, chicken soup for the soul. And he's written so many other books. I was in a book, one of his books, and it was called The Keys to Authenticity. Yeah. And then the other one I did, so it was a compilation book. And I had a chapter. I used to tease him because he was the first chapter and I was the very last chapter. So I said, we're representing the alpha and the omega here. He got a kick out of that. And he's been a mentor for me with my book. So Jack Canfield, just a great, great guy, marvelous leader. Can't say enough.

about how what a mentor he is for so many people. And the other person I did a book with was Lisa Nichols, and she is also a very, she's one of the mentors in positivity, that positive thinking. And her book was called Rise Up. And the chapter I did for her was all about voice. So having a voice, and then using your voice to make the world better.

Ah, use your voice to make the world better. That's what we try and do on the Chris Fosha, too. Right, it is. We try to make the world better. Yes. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if I'm succeeding, but we have these amazing guests that come on like yourself that really help you.

Well, you're a catalyst, though. Oh, you're the catalyst because you're the host. Cool. I was doing the work, and I didn't even know it. Yeah. We try to be. So as we go out, give people a final pitch out to pick up your book to get to sign up for subscribe to your podcast. Okay. Here is my book and I don't know. I've got something going on above here, but I've got all my medallions. I've won some awards this last year. I've just republished it. You can find it on Bookside Press. and actually I've done another one too,

and that is called Queen of Kindness Books. It's not quite out there, but it will be. And so I'm asking you, just you can go on Amazon, you can find the book, and you can get it on Kindle, a hard back, a paperback, so that would be your soft cover. And you can also listen to my Audible, which is me speaking my book and what I'm speaking my truth, what I've been through with this learning to walk by faith.

And I also talk about my past career in show business and all the wonderful, colorful characters I met along the way. And it's all in there. All right. You can pick up the book, folks, where fine books are sold and all that good stuff. Thank you, Deborah, for coming on the show. We really appreciate it.

And thanks for doing all the good work and shining through and, you know, the adversity that you deal with every day. But being an inspiration to others and sharing your story. Thank you. We all have to build each other up. We all have to help each other because we're, no man is an island. You can't do it alone. We're on a big giant, what do I call it? We're on a big giant lifeboat in the universe.

And, you know, rising tide lifts. all boats, but if someone wants to start banging holes in the boat because they just want to be a jerk, then we're all going to sink. So let's all get along, people. Amen. That's, so be it. That's what Amen means. So be it. Okay. Cool. So be it. So be it. Star Trek used to have a thing. I don't know. I don't know. Thank you so much, Chris. The ADHD sometimes takes me some places. I'm like, no, don't

go down that path. Don't go over to stop it. Anyway, thank you very much. Thank you, Deborah, for coming on the show. There's like 500 jokes written in my head every show or things that I have, and they just get scrapped along the way. But thank you for coming on, inspiring people. Or up her book, folks, wherever fine books are sold. Walk by Faith with God is Your Compass by Deborah Lee Fader.

Thank you, Deborah. Thank you, Chris Voss. Love you. Have a beautiful evening. Thank you. Thanks, sir. I'm interested to tuning in. Love me some more, if you would, just as much as Deborah does. and refer to your family, friends, and relatives.

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Hi, Hey, Debbie, hey.