The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – We Love You, Madam President by Alvin S Berger

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

We Love You, Madam President by Alvin S Berger https://amzn.to/40ngKVS Alvinsberger.com The invention of a sentient computer imported from Israel leads to political chaos in America. This computer is more than human-better than human-with its limitless memory storage and human characteristics, which prove to be big trouble for the perverted President of the United States. His mistakes lead to his downfall and that of his entire cabinet. With Washington in chaos, two CIA agents and some members of the Senate try to halt what the deep state conspirators want to accomplish through bribery and deceit. The murder of anyone who gets in their way means nothing to them, mere collateral damage of their nefarious plan. Rising from the tumult is a brilliant woman who breaks through the glass ceiling as she fights to become the first female president with the knowledge of the world at her fingertips. She must rely on her own intuition and the goodness of humanity to shine through the darkness of dirty politics.Here are some high-level summary notes from The Chris Voss Show podcast interview with author Alvin S. Berger: Alvin S. Berger is an author who began writing later in life. His background is as a dentist who loved continuing education and personal development. His first book "A Mind of Her Own" was inspired by a note he wrote to his partner Vera, who encouraged him to turn it into a book. His second book is "We Love You Madam President" - a speculative fiction novel about the first female U.S. president, AI, and political intrigue. It came out of imagining walking with the characters through scenarios. Berger also sculpts and paints. He finds immediate artistic mediums quicker for an audience to absorb than the time investment of reading a full book. His third upcoming book is "Tentacles of Corruption" tackling political corruption and AI. He used a real AI system to generate text for the book. Writing allows Berger to feel connected to the characters. He prints out each page, edits by hand, and compiled a physical manuscript before publishing. There are plans to potentially turn "We Love You Madam President" into a screenplay and movie. Berger is working with Blackstone Publishing and feels honored at the positive response to his books as a first-time author.

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The Chris Foss Show glow, they call it, of intelligence, knowledge, power, wisdom, everything you can possibly imagine to have with a great guest that we have. Come on. Tell them to go to goodreads.com, 4chesschrisfoss, linkedin.com, 4chesschrisfoss, youtube.com, 4chesschrisfoss, and chrisfoss1 on the tickety-tockety. We have an amazing multi-book author who's joining us today on the show. One of his newest books is called We Love You, Madam President. And I believe it's a novel. It came out September 15th, 2023. And he's got a new book that he's just releasing.

We're going to be talking about in a second. This is coming hot off the presses. Alvin S. Berger joins us on the show today. And he'll be talking to us about everything that went into his life, what did and he's uh got an interesting journey about what got him here and uh and in his put him in his life where he's uh now become an author uh welcome to the show sir how are you um wonderful thank you good to be here chris it's wonderful to have you and alvin can you give us your dot com so people can look you up on the interwebs sure Sure. My website is alvinsburger.com. And I have all of my pictures, my sculptures, my books, my words of wisdom.

I have three words of wisdom that I wrote for my children and grandchildren. It's an insight into life. I also have some financial things on there, how to do covered calls, but that's a totally different subject. Covered calls. There you go. So now tell us a little bit, give us a short bio on you, if you would, some of your history. I know you were a dentist and some other things. Yes. I graduated dental school in 1961 and the thrust of my whole life has been continuing education. So beginning in 1961, I took one course per month until I retired in 2002. I actually sold my practice in 2000 and

stayed with the wonderful dentist who took over for me for two years, part-time. I was a fellow in the American College of Dentists. I was a fellow in the Academy of General Dentistry and a fellow in the International College of Dentists. So I had a wonderful, wonderful time. I loved dentistry. I also loved playing golf, not so much when I was working. I love playing tennis. And there isn't much that I didn't love. So my bio is basically the path that I took in life has many, many factors to it that led me to being an author. So the first book I wrote, I have to tell you, there's some complicating things here. My wife passed away in 2010, and Vera Getze, my significant other,

her husband passed away in 2012. We were friends as couples long before that. So the interesting part about this is behind every man, there is a wonderful woman. And Vera and I have been together for 10 years. I tell you this story because I wrote to her a loving note very early in our relationship. And she said to me, why don't you write a book? I said, I'm not an author. As a matter of fact, I read very few books in my lifetime. You have that poetic gift. It's incongruent.

But I read technical journals totally. I was a voracious reader of dental articles, medical articles. And Vera said to me, that note was so beautiful, I think you should write a book. And I said, I mean, I looked up in the sky, like, what is she talking about? And I sat down one day to try to figure out what I could write.

I'm going to start reading a dental manual so I can write better DMs. Well, it's interesting how you go this path of life from one thing to something totally different. When I was playing golf early on, I was a terrible golfer, and I gradually got better. So my whole thrust in life has been a focus on accomplishment, on doing things to make one better emotionally, physically, and educationally. So what I did in, as I said, when I played tennis, I was really good at that. I won a championship at my tennis club. When I played golf, I was terrible in the beginning.

And gradually, I became, I'm now at eight handicap. For those of who don't know, that's pretty good as a eight handicap. Yeah. So I've always, my thrust has always been for, um, perfect. I don't, I wouldn't say perfection, but being, being good at what you did. So when I wrote my first book, it was a challenge. It would be like a novice runner trying to run a marathon. It's a, um, if you ever, if you have never written before, I try to do it as, I try to immerse myself

as the person who is actually with these people on the site. I have to describe something to you that happened to me. I was also a musician. I began playing saxophone, sixth grade in high school, played all the way through junior high, high school, college was also a musician. I began playing saxophone, sixth grade in high school, played all the way through junior high, high school, college, and the service. I was in a 32nd Army band in England. It was a show band. We would play television shows, retreat parades, military stuff. We used to play about four hours a day. One day i'm playing and i didn't realize it i didn't even realize my hands were touching the saxophone it came out right from my head to the music it was the most incredible sensation that i've ever had being actually part of an instrument. It applied here when I did the book, my first book.

I was actually with the people in the room, walking with them and trying to figure out what would they say, what would they do in this situation. I kept on doing the path. Each path took me in a different position. I love that feeling. I did that with my first book, Adama, A Mind of Her Own. Self-published that with Create Space. And then I decided I think I wanted to do another book.

It took me to do We Love You, Madam President at least 400 hours. Wow. And I think you have it, but here is the picture of it. Mm-hmm. It was just recently republished with Blackstone Print and Media out of California. Mm-hmm. And it is a book. Obviously, it's the book, The Woman Becomes a President. Mallory

Cranston and her husband, Matt Cranston, bring a DNA computer, which has fetal brain tissue in it, to make it more humanized. So this book is part science fiction, but i have to tell you that what i thought was science fiction is now becoming science fact yeah that's the way it's going these days you can't keep up artificial intelligence is actually very scary so my and we'll talk about my third book about that in a minute but this book obviously she's a the new president when they first bring this adama the this uh intelligent computer sentient computer into the united states they the computer says i want to become more human. And what they do is Mallory Cranston goes into a room and has, what do they call them, parts attached to her head.

Like a brain cranium sort of matrix-like thing? Yes, thank you. So you're part author also. I'm a scientist amateur. Okay. We all are. And what happens over a period of four to five hours, this computer infuses itself into her. Wow.

And she becomes actually part of that. The computer is actually trying to become more human, which is obviously very difficult to do do but you've seen the new things that are going out oh yeah with the robots that are are basically human voiced some of them are smarter than some people i know absolutely me included and she her first if you don't mind my saying this, the first thing that she says, I want to have sex with Matt, and this is coming from. Is Matt pretty hot? Well, because the computer wants to feel the emotions of a human,

and it is a, it's a relief. It's a merging of two sentient beings, this DNA computer with fetal brain tissue, and this wonderful woman who is now infused with the same knowledge of the world at her fingertips. Now, who's that? This is Mallory Cranston, who is now going to be the future president. During this whole time, there's interaction between politicians of the country, namely the president, who is a perverted animal. And there is a murder and mayhem. And the reason why this all occurred was I walked with these people through this book. I actually stood beside them.

It's the same feeling that I had before with my saxophone, the emerging of me with an instrument and me with the book it's a um i don't know if any of your viewers have ever had this feeling of being connected to another item person well i'm connected to vera i um did she do the brain thing with you and hook up there well actually we think very much alike we have words come out together. And she is actually the inspiration to all of this. It's a very wonderful feeling to be so connected to another person. There you go. Does your wife get jealous of this?

Vera? No, she loves it. She is so excited for this. She is my harshest critic. Ah, well, most loves it. She is so excited for this. She is my harshest critic. Ah, well, most ones are. And when she says, I like this book, I listen to her. There you go. If she tells me she doesn't like something, I also listen to her.

What's for dinner? You want to go to a restaurant? I'm listening. It's always good to listen. Well, are you married? No, I've never been married. I can't afford the listening or the divorces. So there's that.

Okay. They don't make them like they used to. You guys got the better age of them, I think. So it goes through this different process, an adventure of the sentient being. Anything more you want to tease out about the characters, why you chose them, and were they modeled after anyone you knew or movie stars, or did they just kind of came to you in your head?

No, but all of these characters are basically made up. The president, the description of the president being a perverted president, he has very little self-control. He screams and yells at those underlings around him. And it's part of the deep state Washington establishment, which is actually part of the Deep State Washington Establishment, which is actually part of the next book. So the CIA is involved.

It's always the CIA. It sure is. And people are actually murdered for trying to help the country. And as I said to you, I take a path, and I don't know where this book is going. As I walk through it with these people, I'll give you a perfect example. Mallory Cranston, who is now, uh, oh, by the way, I did not want either Democrat or Republican party involved because that would, if you say either one of them, you will lose half of your audience. Yeah, that's true.

So this Mallory Cranston is an independent entity and she, and she is giving a news conference and she goes to uh leave and she stops in front of her car and says we can't go into the car there's a bomb here again when i did that scene in the book i had no predetermined knowledge of what that was going to happen. I walked with her to the car, and I said to myself, she is going to find something wrong. And that's how that whole thing evolved. And then we found out how the perpetrators of this, we went through fingerprinting, went through

the device that was used, and it came down to Home Depot. And then there's a whole series of chapters about how we found these terrible assassins and

brought them to justice. So the president actually dies in office. The vice president who takes over, he was not very friendly with the president, did not agree with his principles or way he acted. And he eventually, during the voting process, I have a whole series of a whole chapter of how the voting process worked and how she is elected. And his name is Vice President Ethan. The sad part for him was to say, you won fair and square, and you are now elevated to the presidency. And I have to tell you, when I read those chapters, I get goosebumps. And sometimes when I read these, I didn't even realize that I wrote them. It feels right to me.

So I just really enjoyed the whole process of work of writing. I feel part of me is in that book. But there's something else about writing that's difficult. Chris, if you would read this book, it would take you, I don't know, three, four, four hours to read the book. And then you would make a determination that, yes, this is a book. I like this. It isn't good. It has too much sex in it.

It has bad swear words. I don't like the book. Or forget all that. Or maybe you like sex and swear words. That's it. So I really like that book because of the basic principle in the book and the endings. However, I also, as you, I don't know if you saw in my bio,

that I also sculpt. I began sculpting early in my practice. So you're an artist. Yeah, so I. I began sculpting early in my practice. So you're an artist. Yeah. So I. That's why you're so suave with the, with the notes of the ladies. I have these, this is a, that one is, I don't know if you can see it. It's a nude sculpture and bonded bronze.

This one is actually an egg. It's called metamorphosis. And that one is, that one is done. That's my grandson's hand that comes out of an egg. It's called metamorphosis. And that one is done. That's my grandson's hand that comes out of an egg. Now, you know, we're mammals, so people don't come out of eggs, except for the platypus, which is a mammal. And the last one is made in leucite, and those are dolphins. So I have many of those.

Most of them are in Florida. My granddaughter has some. My daughter has some. Make sure you charge them for it, too, by the way. Well, as a matter of fact, I showed some of these, and I was offered for this seated where is she? There is she. My seated nude. I was offered $4,500 and I said

no. I said I broke the molds and that's for my kids. So that's it. Oh wow. That's pretty awesome. They're getting their inheritance early basically with what you're saying. That's it. So then I decided Tell them not to expect anything more. So you got the sculptures, that's it. You're cut off. So then I decided I love. Tell him not to expect anything more. So you got the sculptures, that's it, you're cut off.

No, I got more. So then I decided I really enjoyed, I saw somebody on YouTube painting. So I said, I'm going to do some painting. And this is one of my first paintings of dolphins underwater. And this is one of my first paintings of dolphins underwater. And this is one of my favorites. This is called, it's a hummingbird. Where are we? Here we are.

A hummingbird. I like that one. And this is one of my abstracts. And I've shown all these. That sounds like something that happened to me on a Friday after too much vodka. Yeah, that's it. And this is one of my favorites. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that kind of looks like that. Who's that one guy who used to do the art on TV? Yes. Bob, you know? Oh, yeah. He used to do the landscapes, you know, and he'd talk really soft with Afro hair. I love those. So I really enjoy, um, those things, the art part, sculpting, um, and I

love writing. But the reading, reading dentistry manuals really does it, man. I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to switch over to reading dentistry manuals. Well, these journals are wonderful. So as a matter of fact, I did some inventions in my practice. I won't go over details, but I did two inventions, one of them related to how to replace a tooth, and that is called the Berger Bridge.

My lab never, couldn't figure out how to do it. So I had to send them a model how to do it. But that's, we're off the subject. That's not a dental seminar. Yeah. Even though I would like to. Yeah, because we want to get, let's get your second book in. I think we've got all the goods for We Love You.

Let's talk about this new book that's launching. I think you said in the next day or two. Yeah, this one is called Tacles of corruption ah this is that's the cover and you see the octopus on top yeah there's like a there's yeah an octopus or some sort of cthulhu on top of the senate house and that one is related to the deep state disgusting tactics of people in Washington who were on the take. I can't mention this congressman's name, but he was from California many years ago. That's one of the reasons why I wrote the book. He had a menu of graft.

A million two, I'll put a BAM on the Indian reservation, or I'll do $500,000 for some other thing. And he actually had a menu of things. He was actually convicted and put to jail. I think I remember this. Yeah, a menu of bribery stuff and things. Yes, that's exactly who i'm talking about um so this book is um also related it has the computer in it but a little bit farther in the book it's about the graft of how people in washington will sell this country out for, for money, for diamonds, for gold, for jewels.

And, um, I found it really difficult. It hurt me when I was writing the book to realize that there are people right now in Washington who are doing these very same things. They say, well, I have a pack. Well, the pack is it's that's how they get their money yeah and unfortunately um they're all part of this this whole deep state uh disgusting uh sale of items uh to other countries yeah it's it's interesting when you understand the packs and how the dark money works and everything else.

You know, I didn't know something until recently. I just found out today. I don't know if most people know this. I haven't verified this. I picked this up on TikTok, so maybe someone should verify it. But actually, it was being stated by two congressmen, and so they said it. So I would imagine it's not misinformation if two congressmen said it but they basically admitted that um you know when they get those committee assignments like the ways

and means committee yeah they actually have to pay an annual fee to their party to be on those and it's like up to 400 000 to have that seat and so they can't have the consist constituents for that so the lobbyists are the ones that make donations to pay for them to be on those committees. Well, guess which lobbyists on which committees want to buy a politician? And, you know, all this comes back to Citizens United, SCOTUS, and a bunch of other stuff too. But I thought that was pretty interesting. I did not know that's how it worked, but I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised either.

So this, this book is how people sell out their country for money, but it has a lot of, I can't tell you a lot of things in this book because there are two, there are two or three major surprises. No, we don't want to give away the surprises. We want people to read the novel. So I have to tell you, the reason I wrote this book, I have a good friend who was in Connecticut, and I was in Florida or here in Kirkland, Washington, or in Florida. And we used to speak usually three times a week.

We spoke about everything from politics, sex, family, you name it. We spoke about it. He died last year. Before he died, my friend, Bob Fiedler,

before he died, he said to me, you ought to write a detective story. And I said, well, that's totally different from everything I've written before. And I thought about it. So I sat down one day again, he said, he said, detect the story. I sat down and I began Charles Barlow sat with a thump on his old chair.

And that's how I began the book. There you go. It's all about the book. There you go. It's all about that lead-in. This whole book is related to the same thing of selling out things of the country. Unfortunately, there's a murder in this one.

There's very little sex. I just have to do the jokes. Tiny little bit, but it was very, very nice very nice okay um well nice sex is better than bad sex and they're not terribly descriptive excuse me um but i can't tell you the end i can't tell you can't tell the end no no novel uh only only because because I can't give away secrets. Because if you read the book, Tentacles of Corruption,

it's exactly that, that the tentacles of this deep state suck all the pleasure, the joy, the patriotism out of this country. And the hook inside that octopus crushes descent wow and that's basically the theme of the book i don't think i don't think that's a novel fiction that sounds like real life at this point well i think it is i think it is real life and it's actually it's patterned after real life yeah um but in this book is also, well, I can tell you about this. There is an artificial Adama, the same. I brought this computer right back in.

It is sentient. And it is able to connect with people without their knowledge. So this one, I'll give you the, I can tell you this part of the story. It's not a secret. They're taking this computer, one of the main characters, and a driver to a safe house in Las Vegas. And they decide they want to look under the computer to see what's in it. So they lift the cover off, and it starts to sing songs of noises of, you know what a digger ado is from Australia?

That ooh, that sound. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the sound of the horn and the shofar, which is the Jewish, on the Jewish New Year, it's the ram's horn. The ram's horn, yeah. Those songs. Yeah. And this computer infuses the driver

Peter into its knowledge and they end up going to Las Vegas and they win a lot of money because he's able to now count cards. It was like a party, eh? Yes, it was. It was a party. But they also, everybody's

watching so there are people who... It's good to know that's what computers are going to do when they take over the world they're just gonna go vegas and gamble some money and do some blow and party so this is we're having a great time here we could be in vegas take your pick so but i i i have to tell you that um i download a chatster you know a chatster it's an ai there's a few different variations of my chat gpt i know there's like 500 variations of different so i i use that because i have to tell you i wanted i wanted to use an ai something in the book that was real. So let me read a part of it that I wrote. Okay. He took a deep breath as he looked at Adama,

which could have smiled if it had a face. He was shocked as the lights blinked red, blue, and white. The sounds emerged as a song of hope. He could not believe his ears as the words reverberated in his mind. And this is what I got from the AI. I said, write a song of hope. Here's what it said. In the land of the free, where dreams take flight,

united we stand with hope shining bright. Through the darkness of night we never yield together will rise a symbol of strength revealed so this and i have an asterisk to make very poetic i should say it was poetic and it was this this ai information is incredible. Yeah. It could write a story for you. Yeah, it can. It's writing books right now.

It is. I don't know if you've ever watched America Got Talent, but in it, two guys come out, and Simon Crowell is on the screen, and they have a baritone singing with Simon with simon crowell's face and voice and voice coming out oh that's so it's really scary um you have to be really careful him singing does sound scary just in real life as it is but it is so i just enjoyed this book and what i did in writing it i would write a page. It takes me about an hour to an hour and a half to write a page.

I would go back. I'd print, I'd edit it and make any changes, print it out. And now I have a book this thick sitting on my desk of the manuscript, which I sent off to Josh Adams at Blackstone Media. And we make corrections. They're very, very receptive, very helpful.

So yesterday, I believe, they did the final manuscript and it went to print yesterday. So it should be in Amazon, I would think, for the next two weeks. And Barnes & Noble. And also, actually, we love you, Madam President, so I have now a surprise for you that you don't know about. We hired a literary agent called Peter Steinberg out of New York. And I also, and through Josh and Trevor Smith, also from Blackstone, we were able to get Bookmark Press in Asia to help distribute the book, which is incredible to get it in Asia. And even more exciting was one of the reviews from Kirkus. I don't know if you know Kirkus Review. Yeah, yeah.

Great review. Yeah. London Book Review had a great review. And at the last line was, this should have been a movie. So we heard that. And we have a joint venture with a bookmark press, Blackstone Media, Peter Steinberg and myself to produce a screenplay

for We Love You, Madam President. And the writer is from Universal Studios and that should be done within, I think, two months. And we'll see if it goes to the theater. My sister, Sheila, and Brola Hawi, they're both 94,

and she keeps on saying to me, we better get this done fast. I don't have a lot longer. So I'm saying the same thing. We better get this done fast. Well, that's pretty awesome. I mean,

the coolest thing about having a novel is getting an option to, uh, have it potentially be done in the movie theater and maybe get up on the big screen or the, you know, they have so many little screens now there's amazon and oh yeah plus and you know there's all hbo and different things so yeah there's always a need for great entertainment it sounds like it's topical because you know it's artificial intelligence really hot right now like everybody's writing books about and talking about it and and uh yeah we use it on the show for stuff so there you go it's a it's a

wonderful technique however you have to be really really careful um i've seen it used with um major political people saying things that i know that they didn't didn't say it didn't mean the deep fakes the words came out of their there was their face their voices so um we keep our ai computer in a cage so if it gets out at night or tries to get out at night and cause problems it's gonna have to deal with the cage first so there's an armed guard that we keep on it but you know we just plug in and you know get some data and some text off it every now and then. I think it does the summaries for the podcast. But it does a really nice job of that. But, yeah, we keep her on.

It's got cameras and everything. And I think there's some machine gun turrets that surround it. So if it gets out of hand, as long as it doesn't assimilate, the machine gun turrets are probably okay. Just whip it around. Yep, yep. We'll just fire okay. Just whip it around. Yep. We'll just fire it up and just load in. But you never know. It could go full

terminator on us in any moment. We program the machine gun turns that if it produces legs and starts moving about the cage, then it's time to put it down because we can't have that. No one knows where that goes from there.

So we're just going to, we're just going to help the kill switch. So this is really great. You've written three books down there on the cutting edge, talking about AI. And then this, this book comes out at when exactly? Well,

it'll be up on available on the Amazonian. Well, tentacles of corruption should be actually an impress. I believe beginning beginning yesterday. But it takes a while for them to get on Amazon. My hope is that it will go nationwide. Blackstone Media is also getting We Love You, Madam President into physical bookstores in this country, my understanding is that at this point, they have got it into 15 stores and continuing to press to get more.

So my hope is that people who see this podcast will immediately run to Amazon and buy the book and also buying Tentacles of Corruption, which should be at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, fairly shortly. So it's really exciting. Do I want to write another book? I tell you, it takes so much time. Oh, you know what we talked about before? Talk about reading the book taking four hours. When you look at it, and then you give me an opinion. What I meant to say after that was, when you look at one of my sculptures, it takes you one second to look at it and say, oh, do I like it or I don't like it? Or one of the paintings, it's very, very quick. For example, in a museum of modern art, there's a huge painting on the wall with one red dot in the center does that have that is that

beautiful so you decide immediately do i like that or not and i think that same holds true with any kind of art you can look at it and say gee is that pretty the book i think you have to take it takes a long time to read and then to give a great opinion. There you go. You've got to take it in and enjoy it. Some people have to do that with art. They shouldn't pass quick judgment. They should kind of take their time and soak it up. Well, that's what my feeling is. I just really enjoyed writing so much.

And I tell you, I have to give great credit to my wonderful companion, my partner, my significant other, my associate, you call her anything you'd like. Vera Getz has been the woman who has helped me, has criticized me, has made me a better man. So I am very thankful to her for all those things that she's done for me and with me. There you go. Well, thanks to her for making you a better man so you could make better books and publish these out. Alvin, it's been great to talk to you about this. Give us your final pitch out to people in the audience to pick up your books and order them up.

Well, the first thing is I think you'll enjoy all three books. But in particular, We Love You, Madam President is a timely book, and it's done some things that we had all hoped for, to have a woman president who would probably be better than any of the male presidents we've had. Also, the new book coming out, Tentacles of Corruption, is very timely and it has some great information about artificial intelligence. And the third point I'd like to make is you can go to my website, alvinsberger.com. All of my books will be there, sculptures, paintings, and my words of wisdom, and my financial advice.

So all of those things, I think, will make everybody a better person and more knowledgeable. There you go. That's awesome. Well, Alvin, it's been fun having you on the show. Great to have you. Please come back for your next book. And you gave us your.com for your site, so thank you very much. Do you want me to give it to you again? Sure.

Give us one more time for the book. Alvinsburger.com. There you go. I hope you enjoy it. I hope you enjoy the books. Chris, thank you very much. Are you sure we can't go for another hour? Well, we've got some backups on the thing.

And plus, you know, we want people to go buy the book because we give them too much information. They're like, well, I know what goes on. That's the danger of a novel. So there you go. Alvin, I certainly appreciate having you on. Chris, thank you. Let's take and tell our audience to go ahead and pick up the book wherever fine books are sold.

Watch for the new release on Amazon, and you can go pick up the book wherever fine books are sold. Thanks, my audience, for tuning in. Go to goodreads.com, FortressCruzFast, LinkedIn.com, FortressCruzFast, YouTube.com, FortressCruzFast, and all those crazy places on the Internet. Thanks for tuning in. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you guys next time.

Thank you so much.