The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – “You’re Fat, Stop Eating”: The Power of Fasting And A New Way to Think About Body Fat by Oman Morales

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:31 Very amazing young man on the show. We're going to be talking about his book. I love the title this. It is Your Fat. Stop Eating the Power of Fasting and a New Way to Think About Body Fat by Alman Morales. Yeah. Hello, Chris. Hi there.
Starting point is 00:01:48 How are you doing today? I am good. I am excellent, sir. I am excellent. So you started in the fitness industry 30 years ago. You've been passionate about helping people physically, mentally, and emotionally. You teach from your study of fitness and nutrition and experience applying what you learn. You can take complex information and make it available to everyone in a common sense way that you do.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And you grew up in Northern California. And now you live in Tennessee. That's got to be a change. Absolutely. It's pretty good. Part of Northern California you're in. Some of it gets really northern, if you know what I mean. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Got it. It was Sacramento. Lots of words. Woods. Yes. So, you know, you're from, did they have ticks up there in Northern California? They probably do, huh? Yeah, yeah. You're familiar with that in Tennessee, I'm sure. So give us a 30,000 or dot coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs? My main website is, I'm sorry, is not you, your fat, I stop eating, but it is my primary focus is, and you can see here, the shirt, fat is time, not weight.com. That's where you'll find all my links and everything like that and things that are going to be coming as well. Yeah. And weight is in being fat.
Starting point is 00:02:51 So that doesn't W-A-I-D. Scale weight, exactly. W-E-I-G-H-D. You got to always help things for the Gen Z or 8-10. Got it. Anyway, so give us $30,000. What's in the new book? The new book?
Starting point is 00:03:06 Or the fat. This one. This one. Okay, your fat stop eating. Basically, I was starting fasting for myself and my wife. We started fasting and really realized that there's a lot to learn in this area. And the more I studied, the more I experienced, the more I realized people need help in this area in a big, big way.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And when I realized my main concept, one of the main concepts in the books is fat as time, not weight, I realized that I needed to get this out to people to get a change in the way they're thinking because when people eat, people eat consistently, we'd never kick into fat burning mode. And it's only that gap of time when we're not eating that we can actually kick into fat burning mode. And that's where we really want to get to, especially if we've got. some excess that we want to burn off. And so I realized there was a need for it. And a big need.
Starting point is 00:03:57 That's the reason for the title, because the title is actually a wake up call to people to say, hey, wake up, not on your body. And it's not a big, it's not, it's not, it's not the end of the world. But now it's time to do something about it. And basically it's about how much time are you carrying around on your body? Think about that. It's like people are carrying months. Some people are carrying years, right? And so it's being able to just stop eating. and that's how you kick into that fat-burning mode. How much short of time are you carrying on your body that's ending your life sooner, maybe? That's another way to look at it.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That's for sure. No, there's so many misnomer's around fasting. There's so much misinformation. There's so much quackery. You can go on TikTok and get five million variations of whatever sort of health thing there is out there. And so I'm glad you're tackling it and making it to what works for people. It sounds like you and your wife are active in fasting. Correct.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah, we're doing, right now we're doing a four three, which is four days of eating and then three days of fasting on a weekly basis. Yeah. And we've been doing that for the last month, and I'm loving that protocol. It is absolutely incredible. So we're practisers. We continually look at new ways of being able to implement this in our life, change it up, try new things.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And so that's really what I want. Part of the book, the main part of the book, fasting is mostly, mental. Right? Yeah, it really is. And so it's getting through the mental phases that you're going to go through. That's a big part of what my book's about is that it's a journey that you're going to go through. And in every journey, there's excitement in the beginning. There's a area where there's danger. It feels like the valley, right? And then there's a coming out of that valley where you succeed through it. Fasting is so different. And so I wanted to get that out to the world as well. That it's something that you can do. You're just going to have to go through that process. And it's a process that's well worth going through. And if you, so many people
Starting point is 00:05:54 will try it. Oh, I'll just ham, hand it myself. I'll, I'll just do some fasting. Like one time my buddy called me and he goes, he goes, hey, I've been fasting this whole time. I haven't eaten for two hours. I'm like, that's great. What are you doing? Diet, diet Pepsi and no food. Ouch. Ouch. You know, that sort of thing. And you're like, Yeah, that's not fasting. But I'm not eating anything. You're drinking five pounds of sugar a day probably to make up for. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:28 That's absolutely not fasting. And juice fasts fall into the same category. Oh, yeah, juice fast. I love those. Yeah. What do you been drinking this whole time? Oh, lemonade? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Yeah, that's five pounds of sugar. Let's take the fiber out of the fruit, which is the only thing that flows down the weight of entry of the sugars in your bloodstream. Seriously, my friend did that. He did a 72-hour fast and he was still drinking pop the whole time. And I was like, I was like, dude, we need to talk. But there's a lot of misinformation, so this is good. When did you, so you've written this book, I like how you take it head on to people.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Because just like they say in Alcoholics Anonymous and Eating Can Be Addiction and Emotional Addiction. Oh, yeah. Sometimes it's a, what do they call that where people like to do things in their mouth, like cigarette smoking and. The hand of mouth. It's like a compulsive. Yeah. I have that. I have a compulsive thing.
Starting point is 00:07:19 If you put any beverage in front of me while I'm working, I will sit and drink it over time, which is bad if it's vodka, good if it's water. Yes. I've got a big old jug right here, water. Yeah. And maybe some vodka. I don't know. No, I could.
Starting point is 00:07:35 But so some people have that oral fixation. Yes, yes, yes, yes, exactly. Exactly. And so for some people, that's the food thing. It's like a nervous thing you do. I drink nervously. Yeah, yeah. And people will smoke just and there's an oral fixation to that.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Exactly. Some people work on Onlyfans. I don't know what that means. But I'm glad you hit it head on where you're like, you're fat because you can't solve the problem of these addictions until you accept there's a problem. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, that was the point of it.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I needed to get the word out and I needed people to take it, take it serious. Take it serious. Wake up. People need to wake up and realize that. The way I look at it also is that people are trapped. Like you were mentioning, these fixations, you know, triggering hunger, right? Hunger, there's different types of hunger, right? There's emotional hunger, right?
Starting point is 00:08:30 You sit down in your spot on the chair and all of a sudden you want to snack on something because you're watching something on TV, right? That is a trigger that you have that you've created. It's marketing. Anytime you're watching something, you see somebody eat something, And you're like, oh, gosh, I'm hungry, right? You're not really hungry. You're just being triggered, right?
Starting point is 00:08:50 And so recognizing there's a difference between being triggered and what actual hunger really is. And that's what fasting does. It's what fasting does is that you get that trigger. You get that external response coming into you, right? Coming to you. And now you've got a gap. There's a gap between what you do in that moment, right? There's a, there's a, I can eat, I can not eat.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I can do a push-ups. I can do breathing exercises, right? There's so many different things that I can do. But what fasting does is it creates a space for you to be able to realize what's going on. You start to see your patterns. And I love that about fasting because when you take food off the table, I call it taking it off the table, meaning it's not even an option anymore. The mind still goes. The mind still does it.
Starting point is 00:09:38 You still watch the shows that you're watching. You're still in the movie theater. You're still getting these different triggers. going into you saying, oh, I want that. And you're like, do I really want that? Is that something I really want? And you realize it's not a hunger. It's just this desire that has been ingrained in us.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And we bought into it, right? Yeah. I remember the days when, you know, the smoking companies, they used to buy into the black and white movies, like bogey and all those people. And they would do it because you'd see them smoke in the movie. And you're like, okay, everyone's smoke time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And yeah, it would be that true. trigger. You know, the other thing, too, is there's a lot of BS rules that we make, a lot of con job rules. I know what you'd call them, but a lot of self, we just kind of, we just kind of bullshit ourselves. Maybe that's the right thing. And I used to have a lot of them. I used to believe that, geez, if I didn't eat something before going to bed when I felt weak and hungry, I was going to die. I might die in my sleep if I don't eat something before bed, where you get the shakes and you're like, I got the shakes. I must need to eat something because my body's probably going to die any second now.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yep, yep. I hear it all the time. I could never fast. I could never do it. People say that all the time. Oh, I could never do that. And the interesting thing is this is that as a human race of humans, our ancestors
Starting point is 00:10:59 did it all the time. It wasn't a choice. It wasn't a choice. Our systems for being able to handle food come from them. Yeah. And they have not, our systems for handling food have not changed, but look at how much our diet has changed. And so one of my favorite analogies for that is, it was in a documentary I saw called The Perfect Human Diet. And in that, in that they talk about,
Starting point is 00:11:23 take a football field. If you take a football field and you say, that football field is a human history of nutrition, okay, from the time that we were human, we stood up to the time that we are today, right? If you look at that football field, go through the whole thing all the way to the half inch line. Half inch line is where everything started to change. That's when we started to process foods. That's when everything started. Our nutrition became very, very different. We had abundance of food. There was too much food. We can get it anytime we wanted, right? And it's getting worse and worse because all we need is a phone to get it. It delivered to our door now. It's amazing how it is to get food. But just think about that. Most of our human history was fasting and eating when we could.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And what was it that we would be eating when we could? It's what we could kill or find on the ground. Yeah. And so looking at what that is, we need to get back to our roots, right? Fasting is not a fad. It's the oldest, it's as old as humans are, right? And so it's one of those things to take under and really understand that's in us. Another analogies I like to use is Wim Hof, right?
Starting point is 00:12:30 He does the cold plunges and things like that. So one of the things about that is that it's, what he's doing is he's activating a part of our nervous system that used to be there that is no longer being used. It's a part of our nervous system that is self-regulation of temperature. Okay. And so that's there, but we don't use it, right? We're not using it. And the only way that we can use it is to subject ourselves to these uncomfortable positions, these uncomfortable spots to be able to activate it. Fasting is exactly the same. We need to not eat for a period of time to be able to get ourselves to be able to activate the different systems within our system within our body that are so beneficial
Starting point is 00:13:10 for us. Burning body, that autophagy, which is basically a self-generation, self-healing process that our body will kick into if we stay in a fast long enough. We'll be able to generate. Human growth hormone is secreted. Stem cells are secreted to be able to fix parts of our body. All of this comes from fasting, and it's all designed within us, but we just got to activate it. And the only way to activate it is to not eat. Yeah. And people don't even realize this is a natural system. So what we were designed to do was during the months of summer and spring and autumn
Starting point is 00:13:45 when things were growing and easily to find, easily to plant. We could load up on that, just bears load up on food. And then during the winter they hibernate. And our bodies knew that we would have trouble finding food. So we could get a little, we could put on a little fat for the thing. but that would sustain us what we forged for food during the the the winter times yeah times and so it's meant to come on and off it's meant for us to not be eating all the time geez i remember i used to live in a state where i was digesting 24-7 pretty much especially the rocket shit that i would eat
Starting point is 00:14:23 and um it's it's it's not something your body is supposed to be doing no and there's there's so many great things to it. And so I encourage everyone, if you're going to fast, to learn from someone like you, read some books, get to know what you're really doing. Because I tried to initially fast. And it started with me just switching to salads, but I still drinking 10 Mountain Dews a day. I'm eating better. And so this isn't quite fasting. It was baby steps in the right direction. 100%. So you can get frustrated. And then when you get frustrated, you go, this doesn't work. And you throw out the baby with the bathwater, right? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah, so getting started correctly, and that's what I, I've coached a lot of people through the process. It's mostly just having somebody there to walk you through it, right? It's because there's multiple, there's things that you're going to take, you have to take, be cognizant of when you're fasting, especially for your first fasts. One is you got to make sure you keep your electrolyte balance up. You got to make sure you're supplementing your electrolytes, right? That's a huge one. The second one, and this is, I had to deal with this, was, was the addiction of carbs, right?
Starting point is 00:15:32 And the withdrawal of that. The withdrawal of that. And so because our body will switch, switch energy, no problem. But our brain is a habit creator. And it doesn't like to change that much. And so it fights it.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And it's going to fight it. And so it's, it likes sugar and it burns sugar. And it's one of its favorite sources of energy. And so when we don't provide that sugar to it for a sustained period of time, it gets a little angry for the first few times. Because what's happening, think about it like this, you've got a rainforest, right? And you want to create a new pathway through that rainforest, right?
Starting point is 00:16:09 The first time through is going to suck. You're going to get cut. You're going to get all, there's going to be things there, right? And that's what we're doing. We're creating a new energy pathway. And so if we do it again and again and again and over and over again, then all of a sudden we've got a super highway there, right? And so our brain needs to make that shift from burning sugar to burning ketones
Starting point is 00:16:29 is an energy shift. And once it does, it's like somebody turns the light on. It's like dark. It's like when it's dark, you've got maybe some nausea. You've got some headaches. You're not feeling. You've got low energy. Just not feeling good.
Starting point is 00:16:43 They call it keto flu. And so what happens, though, is once you make that shift, all of a sudden is like the lights turn on and everything's bright and everything feels. The energy is so there and you feel so good. And your thought process is so clear. Right. And so it becomes this thing. Like you want to stay here.
Starting point is 00:17:01 You want to stay in that spot. Right? And so now you're having any more clarity. What's that? I was going to say, now you go. Sorry about that. You know,
Starting point is 00:17:14 I don't think I have any more clarity or energy when I'm fasting in my brain. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, your body gets into that state where you're burning fat as an energy source. Now, when that happens, the offshoot of that,
Starting point is 00:17:27 like imagine you're burning fat. fat and there's smoke coming off that fire, that smoke is ketones. And so now your body can, your body is burning the fat. Your brain is using the ketones as an energy source and everything is just flowing nicely. You've got that. And it just, it feels completely different once you make that transition over into that phase. And once you realize you're not going to die, most of us, I believe from one I understand, have enough fat on us to live for at least 30 to 60, maybe 90 days. Depending on the person, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, it depends on the person. The person who told me that when I was 300 plus pounds, three and five probably said, you have enough fat for a year, Chris. You'll be fine. Most likely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It was great for surviving famine, but not probably for surviving life. And everybody has to reach that moment. I had so many people tell me so many things. I had so many great authors and dietitians on the show over the years. But I had to reach that moment of being sick and tired.
Starting point is 00:18:27 and sick and tired to the point where I went, I'm not doing this anymore. 100%. I was lucky to find some resources. I think it was Presto, the book by Penn Gillette that I found. And he'd lost 100 pounds. And I always looked up to Penn Gillette and their comedy team. And so I was like, maybe I'll read this book. And he lost 100 pounds.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Maybe I can do it. And so then I read the book and a lot of it was about fasting. And some people just have to have that moment. And that kind of tied me into this thing of maybe there is a way out of this. Yes. And then I started exploring and stuff. But like I say, you can get really frustrated because I remember getting frustrated when I started fasting because I'm like, this is stupid. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It's painful. It's annoying. And I don't get in. I don't understand what this is all about. Yeah. Yeah. So definitely having knowledge really helps. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Absolutely. And somebody to walk you through it is huge. And it's a big deal. Do you do accountability coaching where you stay on top of people and make sure they... Absolutely. In fact, thank you for, thanks for asking. I'm actually in the process of building an app right now where it's going to be a community-based app for people. One of the drivers for me developing this app was the realization that when we get together, it's typically about consumption, right? Let's go to dinner. Let's go get some lunch. Let's go get some drinks. Let's go to happy hour. It's all a sense. centered around consumption, right? And so I wanted to give people who are looking to put fasting into
Starting point is 00:20:02 their life a way to get together to be able to do things outside of consumption, right? And so I'm in the process, actually, of building an app right now called the Fasting Alliance. And it's designed to get people together who are looking to implement fasting into their life. And then to be able to have, and I'll be part of that community, to be able to answer questions to help people navigate the process of it as well. So yeah, I see the bigger picture of this. And I know people need help through this process. That's why I want to give them that support that it's going to take to be able to get through that that valley portion of the fast. Yeah. And a little bit of peer pressure helps. Absolutely. A little competition,
Starting point is 00:20:42 little pressure, a little bit of, hey, I'm doing it. Stay with me. You can do it. Yeah. I took and did it back when I did it. I just used Facebook as an accountability group. and what I would do is every day I would post my weight my my weight on the thing that's bold I was really bold and boy it was a bold because I I was consuming 10 to 15 mountains a day I would have like two in the morning for breakfast and keep trucking through the day and mix it with my vodka at night and and then on top of that the shit I was eating out I was eating out 24-7 I'm single not married yeah kids I can if I want to go out to eat all the time I can't and freedom. And so I would eat McDonald's, Taco Bell, garbage, just all that all that rock gut, call it rock gut now. Yeah. And probably three times a day, too.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Oh, yeah. I was eating like all day long. There was always something shoving in my mouth, a hot dog, a burger, a mountain dew. It was crazy. And so I was up over probably 375, close to 400 pounds. Wow. Wow, Chris, that's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And so I started fasting. I got rid of all the foods. I got rid of, I eventually got rid of the pop, but when I started fasting, I started losing literally three pounds a day. And you want to talk about pissing off some women. Because I would post every day my weight, and I would screenshot it.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I wouldn't just say I was lighter. I would screenshot what the whittings thing it had. And boy, there was some women that were just so angry at me. But I'm like, think about how much pop I was drinking people. That was an enormous amount. pop that just should be illegal really. But I did that. And within three months, I lost 100 pounds.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Wow. Wow. That's amazing. That's it. It would be three or four days every day. Part of it was cutting off the excess. Now it's really hard to do that because I've cleaned up my system and my health. Yeah. It's a little bit hard to do. But that was my accountability. And it would help me because my brain would go, oh, we want one of them in and out burgers. one of them triple deckers. And my brain would be going, you can't eat that because tomorrow you've got a report on Facebook a picture.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Yes. So if you know if you eat that, you're probably going to be showing it. And things aren't really that equated from when you're stand of stuff. But still, when you eat shit and rock gut, you put on water weight because your body's getting dehydrated from the garbage that's in there.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And especially if you're drinking vodka and alcohol, your body's getting hydrated. A lot of people don't even know that sometimes when you're hungry, you're not hungry, you're just dehydrated. You mentioned that with electrolytes. You're thirsty most of the time. Yeah. Yeah, there's a book called, You're not hungry, you're thirsty. I don't know how to pronounce his name, but it's a great book talking about that, about how it's feeling people by hydrating them. It's a doctor. Amazing. Yeah. And it's, that's a big deal. So what are some of the aspects in your book that you also talk about in
Starting point is 00:23:48 helping things. It says here it's in teen and young diets. So maybe you help the young. I don't know how it got there, but they picked it up too. That wasn't something I tried to do, but people, I guess, are starting young nowadays. So it's, it's, it's, I'm glad because you get them some healthy habits to go from moving forward. Absolutely. Yeah. As far as some of the things that I want to, I want to make sure is fasting is not a fad. That's one of the major things that I talk about. But it's something that is ingrained in our system. That and then also what to eat, right? to eat when we're eating, right? That's the other side of things. If you look at our heritage, you look back at those, the rest of the football field, it was predominantly protein.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Protein and any kind of roots or things that they could find, very low glycemic everything. If you look at what's in our stores today, the fruit that we have in our stores today, that's not fruit. That's candy, right? That's man-made. That's been genetically manipulated to be extremely sweet and it's very, very sugary. And to be able to give us a huge insulin hit when we eat that. Remembering that what is it that we're going to eat when we're eating, right? And then so then also realizing when to stop eating. And so on the feeding days, it's essentially two times is what I would look like.
Starting point is 00:25:05 We'd look at. I'd have a meal day in the beginning of the day, probably around 11, 12, and then a meal probably around 5, 6 to close out the day. And that's it. And it's going to be primarily going to be based with protein and lean protein. It's going to be, I like grass-fed beef is one of my favorites, salmon, some type of protein of that nature, and have that be the main piece of your meal, and then have a small salad on the side. I do am a big fan of fermented foods as well, and that is sauerkraut,
Starting point is 00:25:36 kimchi, and things like that. Those fermented foods have gut food. Basically, they want to feed the biome in your gut. And so when you are eating, make sure you're eating the right things as well to be able to just keep the system moving in the right direction and being able to do that. And then also if you do a longer fast, how do you break a longer fast? I talk about that in my book, right? Because you don't just start eating when you do a longer fast, you want to work your way into that and looking at a bone broth and how to be able to create a bone broth that you can be able to use as an interim to being able to go to solid foods. And so things like that are real important to understand.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And there's a lot of things that I cover in the book. Yeah. Now, you do coaching and stuff like that for people. You work with them. How do the inner work with you, get to know, reach out to you, see if you guys are fit to work together, et cetera, et cetera. Absolutely. I would start with my, go to my website.
Starting point is 00:26:33 You can join my subscriber, subscribe to my website. From there, you can reach out to me. We can talk from that from there as well. And that's going to be one of the best ways to be able to do this. that. That's a great place to start. Look at my app, look for my app on the app store. It's coming out. Actually, I think it's out, but it's not completed yet. It's called the Fasting Alliance. That's kind of bringing people together that are going to, one of my visions is this is to really make an impact. Steve Jobs said he wanted to make a dent in the universe. I see fasting as a potential way of
Starting point is 00:27:03 doing that as well. And the reason why I see that is because of how much money is created and generated from our consumption. My next book is called Your Broke Stop Eating. And it talks about the financial implications of overeating, right? And what you could be doing from day one, from the get-go, if you were to take, if you're going from three to six times a day of eating to six times a week of eating, what would that mean for you and your finances, right? Being able to get rid of debt, be able to put money into investments, be able to build businesses. There's so many different things that we've been conditioned to believe that we need to eat that much. And that's not healthy. It's not healthy for us. We're hurting our
Starting point is 00:27:44 in our health and we're hurting ourselves in our checkbooks in our in our savings and in our future and one of the main concepts is what would your future self want you to do in this moment? Yeah. And thinking about that and you do the thing that your future self is going to be grateful for you to do and you're going to be living a great life. It is it is so nice to lose 100 plus pounds. Oh, I can't even imagine Chris. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I'm so proud of you. Yeah, I went to a concert the other day and I wore my, baggy 4x 5x clothes. And I was traveling in the car with my two dogs. So we had drive to L.A. When I'm driving, I need to just be relaxed. So I just wear trash. And I don't care.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I'm not picking up dates on the way to L.A. That's right. That's when I'm downtown on Hollywood and Vine. No, that's an old Hollywood of Vine. Who's that actor who was always picking up hookers on Hollywood and Vine? Was that Eddie Murphy? It might have been. Yeah, didn't he pick up one that had an extra pole?
Starting point is 00:28:41 I think of something. I don't know what that was about. But I'm trying. He's the son of Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen. Oh, okay. Charlie Sheen was notorious for that. But, no, I went down to L.A. for a concert. And so I just want to be comfortable.
Starting point is 00:28:53 He's sitting in the car hot. So I'm wearing my big-ass clothes when I got to the concert. People like, people like, are you wearing a tent? What's going? Are you homeless? Don't people have clothes and food for you? And I'm like, hey, man, I'm on vacation. This is all my comfort.
Starting point is 00:29:08 That's right. That's right. But, you know, I could pull the shirt and basically show two of me. Yeah. It was crazy, but it is the best thing for you. And a lot of this, too, is belief systems. Yes. I had all these stupid belief systems, just dumb shit. One of the things I got from the Presto book was, if it's in your house, it's in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:29:27 So don't bring it home. And it's so true. It's so true. Because we all play that Faustian bargain with ourselves. We're like, if I bring home the big bag of Oreos, right? And you talk about how our social systems. in a marketing design. Oh, you save money if you buy the bigger bag.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Exactly. And you're just like, I know if I buy the bigger bag, I'm going to have a moment emotionally. And then I'm going to be sitting there bent over the toilet. And I've got a whole bag of Oreos coming out, either side, for that matter. And so, yeah, it's just, I bought the other day, I broke my rule and I bought a bag of gummy bears and I throw them in the freezer. And they're like really good. But you have to even slow because they're,
Starting point is 00:30:13 frozen. And I'm like, okay, let's so work out good. There's no way I'm going to sit down that whole bag. And I did pretty good. But I got down the end and I killed off a little too much that I should be in today. And that's just the thing. And so I learned those rules. I learned the rules of when you go to the store, you stay on the outside. Outside is where all the fresh is. The closer you go into the middle, the more dead the food is. Exactly. And I learned to cook and stuff. You talk about saving the money. So when I was in L.A., my dogs are hungry and they like chicken, and I'm in the hotel and just taking them out of the hotel down the lobby, down the elevator, out to go get food, drive around L.A., which is, that's a risk factor in themselves. And I'm just like, we're
Starting point is 00:31:02 contained in the thing. I'm just going to order, what's that, DoorDash? And I never order DoorDash. I come from a generation where if you pay $10 for a hamburger, you don't pay $40 for someone to deliver you a $10 camera. Just as not. It still won't work. I can have as much money as I want. And I made a lot of my life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I still just won't have a square with me. I would just be like, no, I'm getting a car and go with the burger. Exactly. Lazy. Come on. Yeah. And I'll spend $4,000 for a fucking camera lens. I just bought a couple weeks ago, right?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. No brainer. But $10, $40 for a $10 hamburger? Fuck that shit. No way. We were sitting there and I'm like, okay, I need some food. and I need some food for maybe a couple days. So I'll just buy like a big bucket of KFC.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I like chicken because it really works with me and my muscles. Nice. And development. And so I'm like, I'll just buy a big bucket. That freaking bucket of, I don't know, 12 pieces or eight pieces cost me 50 bucks with the delivery. Oh my God. Yeah. It's like stupid.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And I just went, okay, we're on vacation. Yeah. This is safer than me going out in the car with the dogs and dealing with all that. And so I'm just going to do this once. So I came home. And I was really freaking tired on what time I got in or whatever. And I'm hungry. I'm thinking I did door dash a chicken.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Maybe I should door dash a burger or something. And so I went in. I started and I wanted some proteins. And by the time I got done, it was 40 bucks for something that was 10 or 15 bucks. Yeah. To walk in to get. And I'm like, what am I freaking doing? What am I doing?
Starting point is 00:32:33 You got eggs. You got eggs. You cook some eggs really quick. Some scrambled eggs will be fine. One of the best things you can put in your body. Eggs. Yeah. So simple, so easy.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah. So that's what I did. I was like, I was like canceled the order. I was about ready to put sand. Yeah. But a lot of these millennials, yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:53 a lot of these and some self-control, a lot of these millennials and Gen Ziers, they're going to, they're going to grub three times a day, man. They're having everything delivered. Exactly. You know, I remember one of my friends,
Starting point is 00:33:06 he said he got two burritos from Chipotle, and it was like 75 bucks for the delivery. I was like, what the hell? That doesn't even make sense. Yeah. That doesn't even pay for the food poisoning. You can get missing a kidney. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:20 There's a lot of stupid rules that we have. And I highly recommend people get with somebody like yourself if they're going to learn fasting or read a lot, learn a lot. Because the worst thing you can do is you screw it up because you don't know what you're doing. You think you can half ass it. And you really can't. You've got to understand the rules and regulations and what this. this is, what true fasting is. I remember Dana White was like, yeah, I did a big fast.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Like a whole week. And I was like, God, man, so I'm murdering people after 48 hours. Yeah. Judge says, I can't do anything more. How do he, how the hell do you do it? He was drinking bone broth the whole time. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:01 He still lost 10 pounds, though. He's probably eating shit all day like me because he's rich. Yeah. So I don't know. The thing about doing that is that you're not going to get into autophagy. you're not going to get that because the protein's going to kick you out of that fast. And then so it waters the key. One of the things, and you kind of mentioned this a little bit, one of the things that I always look at is pre-make your decisions.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Don't make your decisions because if you make the decision in the moment, you will always lose because you'll negotiate with yourself, right? And then our ability to make decisions decreases the longer we're in our day. So in the beginning of the day, we've got the most energy to make decisions. By the time we get to the end of the day, which is a lot of people's weak spot, our decision-making abilities are decreased so much that it basically, if something's there, you're going to eat it. And so what I always say is pre-make the decision. So make the decision that I say that food is off the table. It's not an option, right? You already made the decision.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Right. Now, if I make the decision, you can put a five-course meal, my favorite food. You can eat the Oreos. You can do all the things in front of me. and it's not going to affect me because I already made my mind up that I'm not eating. It's off the table, right? And so making those small distinctions, that's what helps because a lot of people give themselves and they don't give themselves that absolute, that food is off the table.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And in the moment they end up negotiating with themselves and they always lose. And that's when they break the masks. And it's too easy to do that, too easy to break the fast. But you got to be resolute in your decision. Yeah, that bargaining that we play with ourselves. And there was a few other bargaining things they used to have. One of them came from childhood. We were pretty unruly boys when we were growing up. My mom would have to take us to the store and she would make a deal with us. If we were good in the store, you might get a candy bar or pop, right?
Starting point is 00:35:51 And it was a reward for not being bratty little kids. And probably saving her sanity. Yes. But my brother was the type of kid who would just run off and talk to anybody. He would like just be gone in a second and miles away and he'd be making friends with strangers, which wasn't good in the 70s. In Southern California, when the moonies are out and you know, they're grabbing people and
Starting point is 00:36:17 also I still don't think it's good now, but they'll say straight going, hey, you're probably right, you're probably right. I don't know. Sadly, no one took him, but anyway, that's a joke. I didn't need to kill him just to, you know, raise him as your own. That happened a lot back then, too. But so, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:32 it was tough, but so we would get a reward. Naturally, the reward is we're going to get rocket fuel the launch of four-year-old or five-year-old or 10-year-old into space, right? Yeah. And I think there was, I lived on the cusp of when we had real sugar and then we, somewhere in the late 70s or early 80s, we moved to that high-fructose corn crap. Yeah. But I still remember what the original stuff is like, yeah, still sugar. Maybe worse, actually. Your body doesn't know how to process some of this chemical. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:02 In your broke stop eating, I did some research and I found out that I found over a hundred names for sugar that the food manufacturers used to trick us thinking that it's okay. Tricky dicky. The way they play. Oh, yeah. I have people all the time. They say, hey, my sports drink says no sugar.
Starting point is 00:37:23 That's really good. And I'm like, yeah, does sucralose in it? And sucralose make me sick. It's like 600 times sweeter than sugar. I will get sick from it. I couldn't figure out why I was drinking one of those pre-drinks before going. And it was a sucralose in it. And it was, dude, I was getting sick.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I would go to the gym. I would go to the gym and start working out. And I'm like, I want to puke. Yeah. And, yeah. And that and I did look in the mirror at myself. So that was probably it. And I was in a speedo working out at the gym there.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Anyway, what are some other things we need to know about some of the the things you do and working with your clients and helping people in your book? Most of the time, it's just being there when I'm talking to somebody who's in the process of fasting, being there for them, hearing where they're where they're at, recognizing that the symptoms that they're going to be going through, realizing it's a process, right? It's a process. And everybody gets started very excited about doing something new. And then eventually you're going to hit that point where it's because it's this breaking point. And so being able to coach people on how to be able to navigate that. Hot showers help. Doing things that get your mind off of it. My wife fasted through
Starting point is 00:38:30 a court. She was a juror, right? Oh, wow. It was the best. She said, I got my mind off of fasting completely. Things like that can help you be able to get through it faster just without having to be present in it constantly. But yeah, it's just having somebody who knows the terrain is most what I do is just, yeah, don't worry about it. You're good. Keep going tomorrow. When you wake up tomorrow, you're going to feel so much better. And that's one of the things I tell people all the time because it's true.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Like on the second day, that's where that, for me, that's where it was this breaking point. It was just like, oh, gosh, I had headaches and I was nauseous. And I was just, I was living in the shower because that's the only place that I could go, hot tubs or shower that would help me feel better. And when I woke up the next morning, it was like, like I said, the light. turned on. Somebody turned the lights on while I was asleep. And my life just all of a sudden became very vivid and I felt great. I could work out. I could do the things and go through work without having any kind of reggae, you're going back, backsliding of energy or or mindset. As long as I was doing the, as long as you're doing your, your electrolytes, right?
Starting point is 00:39:45 If you don't do your electrolytes and you don't be consistent with that, you will feel that in your, and your, in your, in your mental capacity. I remember one time my wife was like, I was having a conversation with my wife, and she's, you need to take some electrolytes right now. I think I was like stumbling on words, couldn't get it out,
Starting point is 00:40:01 couldn't remember what I was trying to say. To get some of salt right now, and I'd tell you, as soon as I did, it was probably like 10 minutes later, it was like, oh, wow, that's different. And just you can feel it kick in.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And it was just things like that to remember what it's going to be, and that you can do it. I think that's more than any, the message that people, that people need to know, you can do it. Humans have been doing it for eons of times. Fasting between religion and other things. Oh, goodness.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Religions. Every religion, and that's part of my book too, is every religion, major religion, has fasting in it. But it's something that is part of it. It's the Greeks used to do it because they would want to be able to have better thinking processes. And it is, it is not something that's new. It's not a fad.
Starting point is 00:40:48 This is old school. This is as old as it gets. And it is, people need to know that it's in you. It's in you. And these systems are in you and you can activate them. But the only thing, the beautiful thing is that you don't have to do anything to activate them. You just don't eat. You stop doing things to be able to get those systems activated.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Right. And then the other part of my book that I like to talk about too is, what are you going to do with the extra time that you get when you're not eating? Oh, yes. Do you think about that. How much time goes into thinking about preparing. eating and then cleaning up and putting things away, right? All that, it's averaged out to two to three hours a day and just thinking about and doing things for food.
Starting point is 00:41:32 And then you got to go poop it out. That takes another hour. That's not even including that. It's not even including that. That's another half an hour of time too, right? So it's what are you do with the money that you save? What are you do with the time that you save? Right.
Starting point is 00:41:46 That's what my books that are about. And it's my new one is all about the money, right? It's all about the money. It just shows, like, I got a quote for, it was a Warren Buffett quote. It was talking about a cup of coffee, how he wouldn't get a cup of coffee because he saw that $3 cup of coffee, not for the cost of the coffee, but what that would be exponentially over 30 years in some type of fund. And so it's a different way of thinking.
Starting point is 00:42:11 It's a long-term thinking versus that I want it now and I know kind of the scenario is realizing you don't need it now. You don't need it at all. You can go a significant amount of time without having it. And then you're going to be able to have it later on if you want it. But just to know that you don't have to eat so much so often. Yeah. I would buy those suitcases of Mountain Dew and that would last, I don't know, a week or something.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Bottle vodka every other day I had to go to liquor store every two days ago in the liquor store. Sometimes I guess I'd buy the big bottle. But even then, it would just become a pain in the ass. Oh, I'm almost having vodka. the store is closing, I should go get it, Ms.av vodka. And same thing with the Mountain Dew. You drink, like, all that Mountain Dew. And then you just feel awful, like, all day long.
Starting point is 00:42:58 They used to be like, maybe I have another Mountain Dew, I'll feel better. If I snort some more crack, I'll feel better. I don't know. It is. It literally is because you had a sugar spike. You feel good, and your insulin kicked in, and it brought the sugar down. And now you're dragon. Now you're dragon.
Starting point is 00:43:13 So you're like, I need to have another soda. And so you have another soda, you get that sugar spike. You're like, okay, I feel bad. better, but then insulin kicks in and all of a sudden you're back to where you were, right? And that's that's the, that's the process. That's what people do all day long, right? And with that, that's where a lot of, a lot of the diseases are coming from. And it's, it's just a, it's a, it's a spiral. It's a spiral. And the greatest thing is you don't have to do anything. You don't have to learn anything. You do. You do want to, you want to learn things, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:43:44 but it's like, it's stop eating. So my friend years and years ago taught me this trick. It was like 20 or 30 years ago. He taught me this. I think I'd do in my 30s. So 20 years ago, he said, you ever notice how when you look at the outside of a store, what's on the outside of the store? All the freshest foods.
Starting point is 00:44:07 The produce section is all on the edge of the store. It's not in the middle of the store. It's on the industry. There's a reason for that because the food goes bad quickly because it's live food and they have to change it over quickly. The food as you move towards the middle is the most dead. And you have the chip aisle, the pop aisle, the frozen foods. The frozen vegetables aren't that good for you. Cereal aisle.
Starting point is 00:44:29 They use a lot of salt to blanch frozen vegetables and fruits and stuff. I don't know about fruits, but I don't know they use a shot to blanch them in fresh, flash trees them quickly. And so those aren't even as good. And so I learned that you just don't go down certain aisles in the middle of the store. You just don't go. I know. I know people are like, I have to go on every out. No, you don't have to go on every fucking. There's no rule. No way. You can do what you want. You're an adult now. Yeah. So I skipped the freezing line. I skip the cracker line, the chip line, the pop row, the pop row. And then there's the vegetables. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Some dog treats for the dogs. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:19 So one of the other things I used to do for accountability was I used to take and because I always play this. I mentioned earlier when as a child, we get candy bar or pop for reward for being good. Here I am at age 45, I think is when I started this. And I have this dumb ass rule still. Oh, I was really good at the store today buying my own groceries and I need a reward. So I need like a giant tub of Snickers and a giant tub of pop. Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:51 On the way out, you get them right there. They got them right there at the counter for that impulse hunger by. And I'm like, what stupid rule is this? I don't know. I'm not an adult. I don't need a reward for going to the store. Yeah. And what kind of reward am I doing?
Starting point is 00:46:06 I'm poisoning myself. That's like drinking poison going, I need a reward. Yes, yes. That's backwards. That's for sure. But I'll tell you, that's not uncommon. It's not uncommon. It's these hooks that we get hooked into us, right?
Starting point is 00:46:24 And we have to remove those hooks to be able to be able to get that. And that's, again, that's what fasting does is it gives you this gap of time where you see all of those hooks, right? You see them. They're there. They're visible. You're not going away. Even though you're fasting, you're still going to have those mental hooks coming in.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And so now you can see them. And now you can start to remove those. You can start to take those out. It's the delayed gratification, right? That's one of the, remember them, I don't like talking about it, but it's the marshmallow study back in the day, right? Where they gave a kid a marshmallow and said, hey, here's a marshmallow. You can eat this marshmallow, but if we come back, if we leave and come back,
Starting point is 00:47:02 you can have two marshmallows, right? And it was watching the kids deal with that decision, right? So you just ate it, right? Some of them just ate it. Some of them were like, just look at the marshmallow and turn away from it. of them would just get the turn they put their face in the corner of the half of the room right all these things to be able to not eat that marshmallow but what the study showed that the kids that did not eat that marshmallow they were much more successful in so many different areas of life than the
Starting point is 00:47:30 kids that did and it's that that ability to delay gratify the ability to to to take charge of your who you are actually because you're the one making the decisions and to be the one and it's not anything else It's not emotion. It's you are making the decision to do that. And fasting is one of the best ways I've ever found to be able to develop that skill. And it's, it becomes, and it works its way into all different areas of your life from that process. And I'm sure you've experienced it as well from your fasting that it, you change as a person because of it. You really do.
Starting point is 00:48:08 You grow, the discipline and stuff. Amazing. And you just get used to it. And like you were mentioning earlier, it helps if you have someone like yourself coaching you because you can see outside the box for them. Yes. When you have all your bullshit rules of eating like I did, most people do are little fostian bargains. I'll bring it home and I'll just have one Oreo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I need to haul back, hold back later. And so a lot of those games. But then a lot of the tools, I used to hate coffee, but I'm bad to give up Mountain Dew. And I need a caffeine. That's the one thing I can't give up or else there's my money. murder and it takes place. Exactly. And the judge doesn't do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:48:47 It fits in fasting. Yeah. So you can drink coffee. And so I bring, I get high quality coffee. One of the thing I learned is get a high quality water machine with reverse osmosis. Yeah. If you have good tasting water, you'll drink it.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Absolutely. Tap water, nasty stuff, you're, I don't know, you're going to drink a mountain dew to wash it down. Exactly. Probably desalinated or D. Yeah. 100%. But.
Starting point is 00:49:13 The other thing that I learned was lemons. Lemon water is a great way. If you get those hunger pains, it's lemon water. The other really cool trick that I learned, I think I got this from Presto, was apple cider vinegar. Apple cider vinegar. I knew you were going to say that. Put a little bit of that in a thing, fill it all the way up with water. So it's not because people are like, how do you shit that?
Starting point is 00:49:36 I'm like, you put a little bit in the cup and you fill the cup of water and then it's not so bad. If you can take a shot of tequila or a shot of vodka, come on. A shot of lemon and apple flite of vinegar and a little water down the hatch. It's not a piece of a cake. I drink you too much of that sometimes. You drink too much of that. You will be dancing on tables just from pain and agony. And then the other thing, like you mentioned, hydration.
Starting point is 00:50:01 So making sure you're hydrated and stuff. And one of the cool things I found, I was in this shop here in Utah that sells, it's Redmond salts. You've probably heard of them. I think the worldwide famous Redmond Salt. Absolutely. And I was walking around there's thing and they got a little diner there and they sell, at that time I was drinking raw milk from them. And they had all their Redmond salt stuff. And there was this bag of rock salts that were minerals. You see all the minerals in them. Yes. Just little small ones. And they go, this is for fasting. And I'm like, what the hell? What the hell is this about fasting?
Starting point is 00:50:35 And they go, yeah, you just suck on the rock. And you get the minerals and the salt. that are in the rock naturally. Wow. And I was like, come on. It's $25 for the bag. It was like this giant bag I still have of rocks. And son of a gun, that crap works. If you get hungry fasting, you just suck on one of those for a few minutes and it will go away.
Starting point is 00:51:00 It's amazing, right? And it's great. And you feel good because it's hydrolytes. Yep. But yeah, if you learn those hacks, you can really do it. So I used to do this pattern every morning. You drink coffee. If you want more coffee, have more coffee, you want more energy, drink more coffee, and buy
Starting point is 00:51:18 good high-quality coffee. And then high-quality water. And then once you start feeling the hamburger pains, have some apple cider vinegar, start having some hunger pains, have some lemon juice, and I would just cycle it. You suck on the rock for a little bit. And it literally would go away. It would just disappear. It does.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Suck it on a rock. Yep. And one of the things is it probably wasn't. actually hunger, like a true hunger. It was probably a conditional or emotional or something that was triggering that hunger in you. And so that's a great distinction to make is that what kind of hunger is this that you're experiencing? If you can label it, then all of a sudden you can, you go, oh, that's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in my spot on my chair. And I, and I, and when I sit here, this is when I get the popcorn out or whatever. So you start to recognize the type of hunger.
Starting point is 00:52:08 And then you can label it. Now it's something you can just move to the side. You're like, that's not even real. I'm not truly hungry. That's just conditioned response that I'm going with. And so being able to experience that and to be able to recognize those things is absolutely fundamental to be able to make this a lifestyle long term. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. I give people a final pitch out to order up your book, your future book, the one for the money part of it and all that good stuff. I've got your fat stop eating is on Amazon right now available on Audible as well as on Amazon and in hard and in cover, soft cover. Your broke stop eating will be coming out here later this year. That's going to be the next one on there.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And then the fasting alliance. That's the app. You can access that through App Store or Google Play as well. Those are all going to be available here very, very shortly. And we're going to be getting those communities off the ground here quickly to be able to really help people make this a part of their life long term. And make a real, like I said, a dent in the universe, right? Imagine a million people who are no longer eating six times a day and they're eating six times a week.
Starting point is 00:53:17 What is that going to do to the food manufacturers and all the things out there that's going to make a big difference? I want to make that type of an impact. And it's going to take people coming in and realizing that it's time. Like you said, it's that realization that this way I'm living isn't good enough. I can do better. And we have that realization, adding fasting to. your life is, I believe is one of the biggest things you can do. Everything will come from there. And it's just a, it's a foundation, it's nutrition, it's your food. And so that that is a
Starting point is 00:53:51 foundational level of your being. If you get that correct and you understand how to do that and be able to feed yourself properly, everything else will come from there as well. The other great thing is it gives you skills so that if there's ever a farm food, apocalypse, whatever, bread lines and stuff. Exactly. You can be like, I think all survives. Absolutely. I've done a 14-day water fast, so I know I can go at least 14 days. I was a little bigger back then, but yeah, but 14 days is the my max is what I've done. And so I know I know I could do it. I know what it feels like to go there. So absolutely, 100% right. And it's harder. I think it's hard. It was very easy for me because I live alone. I'm single. No kids. I've got two dogs.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And so it was really easy for me. Yes. Because I can control what I bring home. But it's harder if you're a mother when your kids want the sugary stuff. And of course, you bring that home. You're going to be in it too. I've been there. And or dad, you're living with other people and you're like, do we have to have the Snickers bars laying out where I can see them? Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:58 So that's the whole different ballgame. Exactly. That's why I love. Power of association. Power of association is so huge. The people that I've coached that have broken fasts early prematurely, every single time. it was with somebody, their spouse or their significant other wasn't doing it with them. And they were not encouraging.
Starting point is 00:55:17 They were not, you know, helping them to pursue it. Or sabotage. They're sabotaging it. Some will sabotaging it. Absolutely. And so that was a big reason for the fasting alliance as well. Because if you don't have that at home, you got to find it somewhere. You do.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Because people will sabotage you. They're jealous of your success. People, especially in relationships, we don't want our partners to change because we're worried. I remember one time I just started working out because I felt like shit in my relationship. I just was feeling I was in my 30s and I was eating at worst horribly. And I got some gym weights and I was just working out in the gym while I'm watching TV. And the girlfriend, she wanted to watch her show. So I'm like, do this.
Starting point is 00:55:57 She flipped out because she's, you're going to leave me. You're trying to get wrong so you can leave me. And same thing with weight. You're trying to lose weight so you can get a better girlfriend. And you're like, no, I just really feel miserable. I just, yeah. I feel like I'm going to have a hard.
Starting point is 00:56:11 heart attack and kill over, but you're not helping at this point. And so you need to have that. Absolutely. So as you tell your mother, say, hey, hey, mom, I'm on a diet. She's, oh, you want some sugar bears there? But they're trying to make sure you don't die of starving. And it's a lot of times it's not even somebody trying to sabotage you. It's just somebody who just cares about you just doesn't know. They don't know what's going on. They don't understand. And how do you handle that? A lot of my new book is going to talk about all the different psychological aspects of not eating, right? And being able to think about it, pulling away from your society in a way, right?
Starting point is 00:56:46 You're not being part of the group anymore. You might die. Diet is in die or diet is in diet. Exactly. Exactly. And so it's how do you do that? How do you maintain your social abilities and your social life and still be able to implement these things in your life?
Starting point is 00:57:06 It takes pre-decision, making the decision beforehand, letting people know in a kind way that you're not eating, getting them on board with where you're going, instead of letting them sabotage you or take you out. So I cover that in my books as well. I even had a friend who recommended. Don't tell anybody if you're dying. Yeah, exactly. Maybe tell your coach like you, but don't tell anybody else you're dying because the people are just going to
Starting point is 00:57:36 sabotage it. Absolutely. Yep. And that's a good rule of thumb for most goals, actually. Because most people, they don't, they, they're not, they're not all about helping you be able to get there, right? And it's, if, if they, if they don't have 100% buying in your success, they don't need to know.
Starting point is 00:57:56 That's how I look at it. That's true. And they'll sabotage it. They're goodhearted, but they'll sabotage. Thank you very much. You really appreciate it. Absolutely. Thank you. It's a pleasure meeting you today.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Pleasure meet you, and I love talking about, I must really love fasting. I love talking about. That's great. It's saved my life. I can't see that I would have been alive from 10 years ago if I hadn't lost 100 pounds and I still have more to lose. But it's just eating right and all that stuff. Make sure your testosterone and your estrogen as well too. I was having trouble getting past the 24-hour fast because I would just crash. It turns out my testosterone was just incredibly low. Oh, wow. Make sure the rest of your body is...
Starting point is 00:58:37 100%. Make sure all the, what do they call those, the oils and dipsticks, the fluids. Make sure the fluids are topped off in your body. You've got blood going there, too. That's always good to have some blood flow. So thank you very much for coming to the show. Folks, for this book, where Refined Books are sold, it's entitled Your Fat, Stop Eating, the Power of Fasting, and a New Way to Think
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