The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #011 - SUE COSTELLO - UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT

Episode Date: November 9, 2020

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Candles are fucking lit, cock suckers. Hey, look who it is. What's happening? Greetings from Podcastville, you bad motherfuckers. Welcome to Uncle Joey's Joint Monday, November 9th. It was a great week last week, but hey, this week is going to be a lot fucking better. For starters, let's give New Jersey thanks for legalizing fucking medical marijuana, whatever, recreational marijuana. For you people who think I had something to do with it or whatever, I had nothing to do it.

I don't know nobody. I don't know nothing. And I just called around before I left, and they said it was going to be put on the ballot. I think it got shot down last year, the year before. And so I was hoping I can't vote. All I could do is send fucking, you know, osmosis signals. And that's exactly what I did. And now we got it.

So for you motherfuckers who are hating on me going, we're going to call the cops on Joey. Call the cop. People have been calling the cop for 30 years. They suck my dick down. and they can suck my dick now. So, sorry, that's all I do anyway. I just smoked my reefer. The other night I went out and I did drink some cocktails.

Two fag cocktails. I had two, not one, but two. Mamosas, not Mamosas. The other faggy cocktails, sangria. But I tell you what, I slept like a fucking baby. I realized, because I went there the week before and I had a mimosa fucking sangria, it's just a little fucking glass, too,

six-weight watcher points. but I realized when I came home that night I slept fucking solid I fucking slept like a tank did I get drunk not at all I slept like a fucking tank though

so this Friday I had the opportunity a buddy mine goes you want to have a fucking drink I go I'll meet you over there and we'll have a fucking sangria and that's exactly what I did I went over I had my two sangria 12 weight watcher points thank God I rode my bike that day

and fucking tip top magoo I slept like a baby so I think that you're going to convert your uncle Joey into a red wine drinker. Not like with the fucking glass, like a half a fag. I don't like glass wine. Whenever I see somebody drinking wine out of a glass, I want to like at home, like, you know,

to think that they're on dynasty or on some fucking high-level show. It makes my blood pressure go up one over a fucking hundred. So, I mean, I drink it on anything. A fucking juicer. Yeah, I don't give a fucking coconut. I don't give a fuck. A zombie glass, you know.

I just hate those people. You know, I spilled wine while I was doing a Zoom on my fucking iPad. What are you retarded? Why is wine close to your fucking iPad anyway? But who gives a fuck? Speaking of Zooms. All right. Listen, when Mike and I put together Uncle Joey's joint, we told you that we're going to get better every week.

We're going to do different things. Yes, it's tape on an iPhone. Yes, the bar had COVID. Yes, we had problems. We stumbled upon, but we kept pushing along. Like, listen, and this is what life is about. It's pushing along. You know, if you want to be a fucking victim, you can be a fucking victim. But in my world, there's no fucking victims.

You push along and you start somewhere, and every week you add on, and every week you try to be better and better and better at what you do. And people are going to try to kick you in the fucking stomach, just like they did with stand up, just like they did when I tried to act, just like I did when I tried to do the original, church and the beauty and the beast. Me, I don't listen to you, motherfuckers. I agree with you. I don't give a fuck.

I just know from life that I'm going to be way better and better. So this week, Mike and I decided to add the blue sweatshirt to maybe add a little contour to the fucking podcast. Because some people think by adding a different shirt or, you know,

I've had different fucking advices from people. No, not really, Mike. You know, I'm just saying that. Everybody's a fucking podcast, fucking expert. So people always go, maybe it's, you should need a new table. Maybe, listen, what you need is fucking verbiage. What you need is communication and what you need is your heart and soul to come through.

Any other thing that you might have explosives or cameras on fucking, what are those things that they... Oh, fucking drone. Yeah, I have a camera on a drone. It'll give you a different look. I don't need a different look. I'm ugly from every angle. I know that, you know what I'm saying? And forget from the bat.

My ass is flat. I got a bald spot like a fucking Jew. You know, I got problems like everybody else. But this week, against my best, you know, interest, because I have to, it's like me moving. I got to do what's best for everybody. I decided to add the Zoom feature to our little fucking Uncle Joey's joint on a Monday to give you a different perspective. To give you, just to let you know where we're going with this fucking podcast. Every week we're going to add on and we're going to have different ideas.

It's just like the fucking Patreon. You know, the smoke thing didn't work. The crowdsourcing didn't work for us. So now we've got to figure something else out. So maybe we'll give you an extra album of the week. We're supposed to do two. Let's do four. I got a thousand albums I can review.

So I don't give a fuck. You know me, I'll do albums till the end of fucking time. But I'm doing them in order, which is really weird. Because I want you to know the order of which my music came up on, like how I saw it and how it was presented to me. So it's kind of different. It's not like a whatever list. So it's even like that.

Like we're adding different things as we go along because we don't know what we can do and what we can't do. Once this COVID is over, we're definitely going to have some fucking guests in this bitch and we're definitely going to light a fucking thing on fire. And I'm definitely going to get an office where I could yell and scream and go off

with my daughter not upstairs. And I don't have to disrespect. But, For today, we gave you a different perspective. We gave you a Zoom with a dear friend of mine who I love for years. I love, she's fucking beautiful. But I've always been in love with her balls, because if you're going to be a female comic,

you better show up with a fucking strap. If you're going to be on, they're not putting enough women on the lineup. Well, you've got to earn your fucking way up on the lineup. I'm sorry to tell you that. And it's not by fucking doing sexual favors, nothing. It's by being fucking funny. So today I bring you a little interview.

We do it with Sue Costello, my girl out of Boston, fucking tremendous comic TV show. She was in the fighter. I mean, she's the real deal. She was up there running with Lenny Clark, all the fucking boys, 30 years. I hope you enjoy it. Here it is.

What's happened, you bad motherfuckers? We got my girl today, my fucking friend, old school, one of the best comics, fucking savage. ran with the boys, never made a fucking peep. Ms. Sue Costello out of Boston Mass. What's happening, you sexy savage? What's up? How are you, Sue?

I'm so good. I have literally never been better. You look great in the fighter. Thank you very much. When I saw you on there, I was happy for you. You're still in the fucking game. You're still beautiful. What's happening?

Thank you. Everything's growing good. My whole career. It's finally coming to fruition. How long have you been banging it out for fucking, Sue? How long have we been banging it out for, Sue? 30 years for me. 29 for me, Sue.

So if anybody has their right to raise their hand, both of us do. So always know that. Yeah, we do. What's going on in your world? Oh, so much. So, you know, I had Costello back in 1998. Right. So what's going on in my world is the way I've seen the world.

Costello was a lot about the disenfranchised middle class. It was about the health care system, the education system, sexism. But I was young. And I was just out of Dorchester. I was just out of Boston. So I went to Hollywood with no nepotism. So I was like chum for the shocks. And so, but the show, it's a, it's a duality that goes on with my career because they did

let me on TV because I'm very appealing to the working class. But then they tried to manage me. and control me because of the sexism and because they don't want the middle class to rise, which is why we're at where we're at right now politically. How long did your show last for? It was on for eight episodes. No, we filmed eight.

There were four episodes, but even the first, so what happened with Costello was they thought it was going to be the best thing that ever happened. Like the guys who produced Home Improvement and Roseanne did my show. And the night of the pilot, the Marines were literally, hanging off the rafters screaming. The guys. It was always the guys, too,

which was so interesting. I mean, the girls like me, but the guys really. And they were like, we fucking love you, Sue. And so they also are dollar signs. And these guys who produced home improvement, and Roseanne, first of all, they chased me around the whole time, telling me

don't be like Roseanne, don't be like Roseanne, don't be like Roseanne. And all I keep thinking is I should have been like fucking Roseanne. Roseanne was for how many years and mine was off of like four episodes. And so they were already established at this point. So I had this other woman co-create the show with me. And they left. They abandoned her. And she ended up having to run the show, but she didn't know how to run the show. So they thought it was just going to sail like

home improvement did. Once they saw the pilot, they thought it was a slam dunk. And they put me on, but what they did, so what's going on in my career now is all reflected back then. So what they did was they moved King of the Hill, which was a male-driven show. And it was on Fox. It was, And it was the main, that was Fox's biggest show. It was their foundation. They moved King of the Hill to Tuesday night to launch my show. But it was a male-driven show. No guys were going to watch a woman's show without a reason.

So what they did was they tanked King of the Hill by doing that. And the night of my premiere, Mark McGuire, hit a 60-second home run, so it got preempted. So all the press building up to it, shit the bed. And the press, looking back now, Colin Quinn, me and Colin had a big time. talk about this. The press were so provoked by my middle classness that I have an accident. They were very provoked by it, which is what's happening right now in the media. The elite media, they've gotten way worse. They don't want to hear it, which is going on with the divide in our country. They're shitting on the people that are voting for Trump. And I'm like, this is, this is why they're,

this is why they're voting for Trump. Because you shit on us. And so back when I, so everything that's happening now was going on with Costella while the sexism was very strong. So it's a duality that goes on with my career. I really, I pushed through in a way that's never been done. And then the biggest thing that could happen, like even Mark McGuire, he was on, they said he did steroids. So I'm like, oh great, a drug addict guy ruined my career. So what happened with CBS after that? So then, so what I, so CBS, Les Moombas gave me my first two deals. He gave me my first deal where I did a pilot called Pauly Dodge. The second deal, I was supposed to be on Murphy Brown for 13 episodes. Looking back now because I just went back in with CBS, I realized he pushed me on

Murphy Brown because I was supposed to go on another network. So all the talk about him fucking with women's careers is true. He promised me 13 episodes on Murphy Brown. I went on Murphy Brown because I thought that was the humble move to make instead of going on Townies, which was a new show. And I thought that was too egotistical. I was like, if I go on Murphy Brown, I'll get the exposure, I'll learn from the best, and then I'll do my own show instead of being an egomaniac thinking, I want my own show. Well, she kicked me off before I even went in front of the camera, and I was devastated at the time. Now looking back, I see it because he didn't want me on ABC. So he forced me on Murphy Brown, and she flexed her muscles and kicked me off.

So everything that's come out in the press about less about him fucking with women's careers is true with the career, with the business aspect of it. And then there was a pilot called Queens. He called me at midnight one night, and he said, Sue, I just fired I Elena Douglas. get on a plane tomorrow and come take over for it so i take over for iliana douglas i shoot the pilot they don't pick it up everybody sees me on on queens and says sue costello deserves her own show that's how i got costello so every move in my career was based on my acting and my ability it was never just a fluke and everybody's always like oh sue just got all these deals i'm like no actually i did a pilot and then from my acting i got the second deal and then from the second deal i got costello so then

And after Costello, I was like, I can't take, this is the sexism is too much. And I always wanted to do it like the boys. I've always been around the boys. I was on tough crap. You know, I've always been around everybody and they've always invited me in. And they've managed me. I've been managed by the men. And it's just a fact.

They keep you close, but they keep you down. And because there's more men than women. And I always say this. Like when they go on tour, like when Dan Cook and those guys and Bobby Kelly went on tour in a trailer. I'm like, do you think they're all going to sit around and go, you know what? Let's invite Sue, too.

It's not going to happen. They're not going to invite a woman where they're all being boys. They're doing all their dick stuff or whatever they do. It just wasn't going to happen. It's just like, it's not going to happen. So all along, I was like, how do I do what the boys do? How do I break through? So I wrote my play.

I started writing my play, which is about my life, which is about, I took myself out of Hollywood. and wrote my play, and I did it, performed it for 20 years. In New York? In New York, in L.A., everywhere. I performed it everywhere. I performed it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, because I wanted to get so strong that I could perform.

There's no props or anything with the play, and the play is about my whole life and my career. It's about Hollywood, about getting exploited. It's about how the system is set up to hurt us. It's about everything I tried to do with Costella. Because when Costello got canceled, I was like, I'm not, I still have my voice. There was something about the fame thing.

I didn't want to be famous. I wanted to be creative. And I didn't like all the unfairness. I didn't like the sexism. I didn't like the way the agents exploited you. I didn't like that they made you sign a deal where they put a lien on your career. I said, I'm not fucking doing this.

And I went to therapy. I told my therapist, I want to learn how to do this where I don't have to pay any percentages. She's like, oh, Sue, if you can get over your weaknesses, there's nothing you can't do. And so I worked really, really, really hard on the play. And the play got great reviews. I got a standing ovation.

at the New York Comedy Festival, and nothing would happen with it. So it was like, you want to talk about building strength. I had everything that you could need, but nothing was happening with it, but I never quit. And then one day, I had a tour booked in China. So this is the sexism stuff that I want to talk about practically. So the sex stuff that's been gone on with the guys, that's always gone on. That's how it has always been. So now that it started coming out with the Me Too movement, I was front and center with the Me Too movement because the end of the, I've always wanted to do it like the guys.

The reason why I made a big move is because I was supposed to go on tour in China. They came to me and they said, Sue, we want you to headline in China. I was booked at the end of August for six weeks or something. And the guy, long story short, he was bullying me before I went to China, the booker. and so I had to stand up to him to make sure that I didn't go to China by myself and have somebody bully me for six weeks. So I stood up to him and he pulled the China to our hour off from underneath me. So that ego thing with men has been a real thing that's gone on financially for women. That is a fact.

And so I felt like completely leveled again. I was like, oh my God, this is like the millionth time that this has happened. I'm like, you know, we can't book more time at the end of the summer because people book in advance. So he crippled me financially. And I was sitting at my desk and I said, what should I do? I said, I want to do it like the boys. And I said, go see Les MoonVess. A voice came down.

And I emailed Les Movesse. I hadn't seen him in 20 years. And I said, will you meet with me? I need advice because ABC was coming to me about doing a talk show. They wanted me to be on the view. They wanted me to take over for Katie Kirk. And everybody, they were, IFC was coming to me because they were like, so you're on stage talking about what it's like to be a woman and you're not angry.

You're making it hilarious. So that was very enticing to them. Did you make with MoonVest after he got fired? No, before. In July 2017. Okay. And I told him an inkling of my idea, my TV show idea, an inkling. And I talked about my play.

And he was like, oh, my God, if this thing's as good as you say it is. And he was like a mad dog. He was like a fucking animal. I'm not joking. And it was business. It was business. And he kept asking me, how are you making a living? How are you making a living?

How are you making a living? How are you making a living? and how you're making a living. And I was sitting on the couch and I knew what he was doing. I know what he was doing. He was trying to find my weakness because that's what they all done to me in my whole career. Financially is where they all fucked me. And so I told him on purpose.

I said I've been broke. And the reason why I told him I was broke, this is where I started to learn how the boys do it. Because I was like, I'm going to put the steak in front of the lion and I'm going to see how the lion act so I can protect myself. Most people would tell you, don't tell him that you broke because they'll take advantage of you. I'm like, no, tell them. and see how he acts.

And sure enough, he went like a wild animal. But at the same time, I didn't know what was going on behind the scenes that they were trying to get him out. But they were trying to get him out because of the merger. They weren't trying to get him out because of the sex. But I had no idea while I was up front and center with this. So I lived front and center during the Me Too movement, and so I was a witness to all of it.

So like I was telling you on the phone earlier, I'm able to see how they just totally fucking threw a couple guys under the bus so that they could do dirty business. So I'm like, never did I think I would come forth as a voice for men, too. But that's what's happening. So forget about me too. It's men too. Well, so you're smart enough to know how the comedy scene works.

I mean, listen, if they start fucking canceling people, they're going to have to cancel Sinatra eventually. They're going to have to cancel Dean Martin, you know, the rat pack. They're going to have, you know, for years, there was a way that things were running. you know, metal music, music in particular, you know. And women have stories or men have stories. I mean, if they really wanted to press charges today, they could throw Jimmy Page in jail to having a 14-year-old girlfriend. And, you know, this has been going on forever.

I'm happy that it got brought up into the limelight now. I have a daughter. You know, I have two daughters. I have a seven-year-old. And I don't like what happens. how it went down in comedy because everybody knew what they were getting themselves into I think I think that when Harvey Weinstein took you to lunch Sue and he got up and said let's go up to my room to look at the script you had an inkling about what was going to happen as a woman I like I like to hear what's that I like to hear what the guy we got to let the guys talk so that we can hear what

the reason why it's gone on is because guys have been told not to have feelings and not to talk so they act out so then if we're going to shame guys more guys need to be able to talk even if what you're saying isn't comfortable and even if it's wrong we still need to be able to let you have then you're not going to hurt me as much if you're talking so okay so you tell me that and then I say and then I explain to you I hear what you're saying and then I say to you because there's a little bit of truth and everything right and I also think the dynamic was set up where women were set up to have to their sexuality. There's a whole stuff that needs to be brought up.

But the reason why it wasn't brought up is because they used the Me Too movement to fucking throw everybody to the bus. They paid the Me Too movement off. They didn't and that's why the guys are so mad because they know it wasn't real. If a guy got, same thing with George Floyd.

Guys know that raping women is wrong. No guy is going to stand up and say we should rape women. Nobody's going to say that what happened with George Floyd is right. But it's because the media is using it to cover and then not doing what's right that's causing the provocation. It's why the men are frustrated because they know it's bullshit. They know they're being real loaded and they are real loaded. CBS used the Me Too

movement to cover what they were doing with the merger. They used the sex stories so that the media would look at the sex stories so they wouldn't see what was going on with their merger. And that's what the men are starting to see. So when you say that about Harvey Weinstein, there's another layer to it. Women brought those women to see Harvey Weinstein. The problem that's on right now, at least for myself, I'm speaking for myself, is that I had to overcome my own women weaknesses because there's like, there was a sick way of everybody operating to get the power back. So women brought women to Harvey Weinstein. And that's a mechanism that goes on a lot where the women helped the men to hurt the women. So there was a trust with the women because the

women were bringing them to him. I'm not saying that sex doesn't go on and it doesn't get exchanged and everything, but there's that mechanism that goes on that everybody doesn't doesn't see, that the men don't see. So there's a trust. And they did it. So they set up, so you brought up the hobby thing. That's what they did in business with the women. So now all the whole year while I was doing my business, the men would bring a woman in the office with them. That was the new Me Too rule. And then I would sit in the office and I would go, oh, so they would make a woman who's really brilliant, equal to the man, bring her into the office to be a watchdog. So now they're knocking the woman down. And she has to just sit there and pretend like she's watching that he's,

not going to sexually harass her, but the woman that's equal to the man who works with the man is forced to feign empathy to me so that the guy can still fuck me financially. So you see, that's why everybody's frustrated because they know it's bullshit. They know the bullshit's going on, but they don't know how to get underneath to the bottom of it. So they just keep building false narratives to cover what's really going on underneath, which is the business. I'm sure. I've got to ask you a question.

Let's narrow it down away from Hollywood Okay Let's talk about it in the comedy club world What did you experience in the comedy club world And let's go with that one first And then we'll go to the second part of this What was your experience with comedy clubs I mean you're a fucking savage

I've seen you around men And I respect you around men Because you turn into one of us I've said crazy shit around you and you've never fucking flinched because you knew you were smart enough to know that this is a boys' room. This is a fucking boys' room.

What do you fucking think you're going to hear in a boys' room? Prayer that we love our wives? No, we talk about disgusting things. I go watch football on Sunday at my friend's house. Women run out of there. Women run out of there because it's men in their primal fucking state. Every nationality

gets a fucking whatever you know, pussy, quots, camel toes. You hear shit that you're not supposed to hear. I don't want my daughter to hear.

How did you put up with it all those years? Well, I've all, I put up with it because there was also, there was a more sophisticated thing that I had to do. So, say,

take tough crowd for an example. We were on tough crowd, One of my favorite episodes on Tough Crowd was, so I described this recently about, because first of all, I put up with it because I didn't know any different and I knew I wanted to keep going. I left Boston because of the sexism.

I've always stood up for myself and I've suffered in my career because I've stood up for myself. They fucking leveled me. What's his face? Bill Blumen Rice tried to fuck me how to do it. He wanted me to do my special in Boston. I'm from Boston.

I just sold out the Women's Comedy Festival and Laugh Boston, and I wanted to do my special there. And he said, okay, it's going to be nine. This is what, listen to how they do it. It's going to be $9,000 a show. You have to do two shows and you can't sell any tickets because you won't sell any. He was completely trying to cripple me behind the scene.

So the way I put up with it is I rented out the VFW hall in Boston and sold that out instead and got an equal thing in the Boston Globe compared to the Wilbur. That's how I did it. I have an email where he said, you're a fucking loser. So all this stuff was going on. This is how I did it. I just kept moving forward. But the tough crowd thing.

So this is what I did was I just kept managing my emotions and I kept understanding. So you're talking about the men when you're primal, right? I've just, I tried to get more like rational and I'm like, okay, guys when they go out with their guy friends say they can't be vulnerable because they'll get the balls busted. They can't. And then I'm like, oh, oh, so that's what's happening. So I get rational about that. And then I look at tough crowd and I go, okay, so tough crowd, Colin Quinn and all the boys had a regular job, a regular paying job. they were regular.

So they were very solid in their jobs. They were making money. They had camaraderie because they saw each other all the time. And then they would bring one woman in and circle her in every once in a while. So we had to come in with these guys who had the camaraderie, the financial stability, and have it be one girl with what, four guys and kill. People don't understand the level of what it, that's the dynamic that needs to be vocalized. Forget all the throwing the guys under the bus and everything.

Guys, I don't think you'd interview anybody and say I'd like to rape women. And they wouldn't even say it out loud anyways. But what's going on is we're not having a conversation about the actual fact. And I had to get over my own, like, resentment and victimhood. I had to. I just had to have, like, radical forgiveness. To move forward, you have to.

Because if you start putting a victim label on you, you're never going to move forward. Like right now, they're organizing to suit. the comedy store. Why? You know, I don't know. I just heard through the grapevine that a bunch of women don't feel like they were getting equal treating and stuff like that. You know, I used to count the lineups every night. When I, I went back to the store in 2014. And then a couple of women mentioned things to me, like in 2015 and 16. And if you notice, I always put women on my podcast. I always had women on my podcast. It was day one. I didn't want to create that barrier and I treated them just

like the men and I talked like if I had a man in the room, I always gave him the respect they deserved. But people still weren't happy with that, you know. I don't know how to please everybody. You can't please everybody. No. But I know the story was good. Go ahead. I was going to say the sophistication with tough crowd. You asked me how I handled it with it. So I realized I can't fight all the guys because then I'm just going to sound like a loud fucking crazy lady and that's not, I don't want to be a loud girl. I want to do my comedy.

I always just wanted to do my comedy. I was like, I just want to be funny and do my comedy. And I've had Al Martin tell me, Al Martin said right to my face, Sue Kostel, you kill more than any other, any other comic I've ever seen and I hesitate to tell you that because you'll have the power. My friends told me they would say Sue, the guys are intimidated by you because you fucking kill and it would kill my spirit because the club owners would crush me because

they were, a lot of them were failed comics and they didn't like that. I killed the way I did. And I was never trying to take the guys down. I was just trying to hard flex how fucking hilarious I was. Jolly Murphy, he used to, God rest his soul, that man gave me my props like nobody's business. He used to say, Sue Cross Sell's fucking gangster.

I thought you were a gangster. When I saw you in the store in 98, you intimidated me. I thought you were a gangster. You were funny as fuck. Right, but Then I don't want to hurt the men. I had to break through that.

I was like, I finally realized I was like, oh, they think I want to hurt them. I don't want to hurt people. I love men. I just tweeted. I said, I love romantic justice. I hate sexism. Like, I'm finally able to vocalize my femininity. And so I'll talk about tough crowd in a second.

But also, I started to learn that the word woman is for man. And if I stayed in my angry, feminist, crazy, like pain, I'm in justified pain, then I wouldn't have saw what that meant. And what it means is we have an energy that can call forth the best in men. And that's what I'm learning how to do. There's a bit of a like that I have to do. I'm from Boston.

I got the balls. I can, but guys like that. Like, that's how guys respond. It's like wake them up and then you call forth the best side of them. And that's what men want to do. Even when you're dating somebody, a man wants to please you. He wants to feel useful.

He wants to please. So if we break it down, go back to basics and get rid of this weird, it's almost a perversion that's happened with the sex stuff it's perverted it's like why are we so perverted and so with tough crowd what i learned how to do so one episode they had they were talking about how women were becoming men women are becoming men women becoming men so i know i've learned over the years j thomas artie lang i know how to hold my space and then go in and say what i need to say and not react to what five men are saying because i know that's never going to win and so we

So Patrice, so the beginning of tough crowd, we used to have a fourth act, right? And so I remember I was sitting there. And the fourth act said Sue Costel's flat ass on the monitor. I go, what is that? What is that? And the producer was like, oh, you're not supposed to see that. Oh, you're not supposed to see that. I go, what is that?

She goes, that's Patrice O'Neill's fourth act. I go, I'm going to fucking get him. I'm going to get him. My whole focus on the tough crowd was to get Patrice. And they were all talking about how men, how women are turning into men. Now, if I was weak, I would start yelling. And then I'd look weak to the audience. Because the guys don't know, people don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

They don't know that the guy's a camaraderie that's for it. They're just looking out, it's like women aren't funny because we're screaming. So I started to learn that I started to get very sophisticated. And so I waited and I waited and I waited. And I said, what do you mean? I said, men are turning into women right before our very eyes. I go, look at Patrice. He's transforming into Aretha Franklin right now.

Patrice fell overlapping. And it was funny because, the guys would email me after tough crowd and they'd be like sue your brilliance is intimidating and then I'd get confused because I'm like well how come the guys aren't laughing I'm like oh the guys aren't laughing because they don't want people to think I'm like there was a whole dynamic that was going on that people weren't seeing and so it was manifesting as like women screaming so nobody was getting a handle on it so I started to get very sophisticated with it I had to you had to sue because the only way you would last 30 years this is why you

lasted 30 years because you've grown, you've adjusted along the way. And you, you know, I've never, you know, you just kept growing and you never stopped. And I love people. Yeah, you do love people. Good for you. I love men. And I also see that women are part of the problem too. And I'm not afraid. I grew up in Boston. I'm not afraid of girl gangs. I'm like, wait a man, what the hell's going on Yeah, maybe everybody's afraid of the angry women. I was afraid of them. And I'm like, wait a minute. I grew up with the honeybees in Charlestown.

They fucking threatened to be all the time. I was like, fuck you. I'm like, I'm not afraid. I'm like, I'm not afraid. And I'm also am righteous. I know what's right. I was up front. So I negotiated a TV deal with CBS while Les Moonbess was going down that has

provisions for women and protections for artists that has never been done before because they thought I was a fucking idiot, blonde girl from Boston. So I had CBS signed my NDA to protect my, IP after they robbed, they try to rob it from me, and I still beat them and had them sign my NDA to protect my IP. Then they tried to give me a deal and fuck me, and I fucking out-negotiated them, and they tried to steal my script before Les went down, and I caught them, and then they retaliated against me, and I still caught them, and they thought everybody was coming at me for a sex story, because I was in the office with Les, and then they kept coming to me, like the New York Times

came to me, oh, you were in the internal investigation, they were questioned in Les about you, And I'm like, why? I'm like, I have a deal. What the fuck is going on here? And they were so shady that they helped me figure out what the fuck happened. And now I see what happened. They used the Me Too movement to fucking push Les out of CBS. And they gave me a deal that they didn't honor because they didn't think anybody was ever going to see it because they were going to make me look like a whore.

They were going to take my script. The Les article was going to come out. They were going to say Sue was in the office with Les. We don't know what happened and push me to the side and steal my TV idea. And I fucking beat them. That's how you do it as a woman. That's how you fucking flip the tables. That's how you stand up and you fucking flip the tables.

That's how you do it. Sue, you have been a breath of fresh you had to talk to after the last eight months with everybody fucking jumping up and down. Let me ask you one last question, Sue. Okay. When you were at the store those two years, three years, did you feel anything weird? Only from Joe Rogan. That's it?

Well, not even sexual. It was not sexual. I've had guys grab my ass. I've had club owners tell me to take my shirt off and now get my check. I've had a lot of, I mean, I've had people like, lots of stuff like that go on. Tons and tons of that stuff. Take your shirt off or you won't get your check. Yeah, in the office in the back.

I don't think there's any guy in America that would say Sue should be treated like that. I really don't. I don't think that there's anybody that thinks I should get treated like that. And I think I could prove a million times over how funny I am. I've been frustrated. I can prove it for you. I'm not worried about the funniness. It's the attitude that I fucking love.

Listen, man, it's how you go into this as a woman. A funny woman told me a story one time. She goes, when I moved to that way, two options. I can either suck dick or put my ponytail under my hat and become one of the boys. And she goes, I went with the second option. And that's where I am today. But now what I'm doing is I want to go. further, Joey, and maintain my femininity.

I want to go even further and be like, oh, being a feminine woman is actually going to help us all. It's going to help manage the men's aggression. If I stay feminine, if I stay loving, if I stay adorable and funny, which is what I always have been. And I'm like, how did I even, all I even wanted to do is be funny and get paid for it. That's it.

I mean, I got paid less in Vegas, Joey, just recently. They paid the middle guy less, more than me. It made me do more work. And I went on stage and I fucking called it out. And then the bouncer tried to, like, scare me to throw me off stage. I was like, fuck you. I've been throwing out of strip clubs in fucking Canada by my neck. Go ahead, throw me out.

I don't even care anymore. I want my money. I'm not mad at you. You need your fucking money. I do. I just want my money. I want to be funny. I should make that the name of my show, my special.

I want my money and I want to be funny. Now, Sue, you have a podcast? I have my Sue TV show. I do it every day. every day what time five o'clock on Facebook and it's building and building because I talk about politics I talk about this

Me Too stuff I talk about the working class I talk about how we're going to end up it's going to go beyond the race it's going to go beyond the gender and it's going to turn into the 99% the general strike we're all going to get empowered because we're going to see where they're trying to keep us separate they're trying to make the girls and the guys fight

they're trying to make the black and the white fight so that the 1% can keep us down and I'm like not today motherfucker out not today Satan Sue, I want you to circle back with me in like three weeks. Once we get this system down more, and you and I are going to get deeper into this because this was a trial today for us.

And it worked. Yes. I feel like me and you. I'm so happy. I feel like me and you will be good together because we really are a blue collar. We're salt to the earth. You're beautiful. You still look beautiful.

Thank you. God bless you. I feel beautiful. I just recently found out that you dated my brother for a while. Who's your brother? My Irish brother, Greg Fitzsimmons. I never knew that. Greg was my boyfriend for four years.

I lived with him. I never knew that. That's how I got to New York. I never knew that. I loved that man with all my heart. If there's somebody I miss in L.A., it's that Irish cocksucker. He was going to Cuba. I hadn't gone to Cuba.

My aunt was going to pick him up at the airport before COVID. That's how much I'm going to. I love Greg Penn Simmons. Yeah, he was my boyfriend. He's the reason why I moved to New York. I never knew that, too, to just fucking maybe a month ago. Yeah? That's how my, how bad I am. We used to do, he used to coach me.

Oh, go ahead. What's up? He used to coach me with the stand-up and try to control me. And I would fuck up every time on stage by accident because he would try to control me so much. And then I, like, when Nancy Carrigan was in the Olympics, I remember, he's like, you got to do this, you got to do this, you got to do that, and now I'm a freeze there. and I got on stage and not Tanya Harding.

And when I got on stage I was supposed to say that I looked like Tanya Hatting and I said I looked like Nancy Carragan and he's like, what are you doing? I'm like, you put too much pressure on me. I'm a free spirit. I'm not like a...

Well, Sue, I'm happy for you. I'm happy that we got in touch. I'm happy you were the first guest on the joint. Even though I couldn't get you on the church that week, I wanted to make it up to you. I love it.

And I want you to know I love you and I support you in any venture. And if I can be on Sue TV, let me know. I'm going to. And I'll just, you doing this, Joey, and giving me the visibility is helping me.

Just letting people see it in my natural habitat. I'm not here to hold you down. I'm here to give you light. You're here to give me light. And I'm just, I just want to be funny. That's it. Yeah, we're a team, and I want you to circle back with me every few weeks.

Do you mind? No, I would love it. Sounds good. I love you. Have a great week. You have any dates coming up? You want to plug? No, I haven't been going on. I can't.

I just moved to Boston. No. We got nothing. I thought Boston was going to open up a little bit, but it didn't. But I'm going to move forward with the CBS thing and with my TV show. So I still have my script. My script is all about bringing America together. I didn't let them take it.

It's mine still. And I'm going to come through. They're going to have journalists. They're going to write the story about what was going on. So when I come through, everybody's going to go, can't argue with Sue Castello being a bad bitch. And you let them know here. I'm Uncle Joey's joint, Coxuffing.

I love you, Sue Costello. Love you, too. There you go, Coxuffis. I hope you enjoyed my little te-tate with Sue Costello. Sue Costello's great, and I support her fully, and I'm looking forward to doing her show. Hopefully this week we'll have some more Zoom guests for you, just to break it up a little bit.

You know, man. And then once, I got things happening. I got things in the works. If you guys know anything about one thing about Lee, he told me once that everything I do is very cunning. It's very, you know, I pick it out, and it's very thoughtful. Why do one thing when you could do one thing and it branches out to three things?

Do you follow what I'm saying to you? Everything has to be accurate. Everything has to be by the mark. Why would I want to go out on the road and hoard myself out right now when I got no material? That wouldn't be justice to you or justice to me. So I do everything by the fucking book. And yes, I'm hard on myself because, listen, that's what the problem is.

Nobody's hard on themselves. Nobody calls themselves a fat fucking slob-cunt. Get your shit together, you motherfucker. You know, when I say those things in the morning, that's what I'm feeling in my heart. You got to get up and you got to get the fuck out there. Nobody's going to give you fucking dick. Those things I say are the same things I say to myself. I tame them down for you, motherfuckers, because I don't want to hurt your feelings.

But I say horrible things to myself. I'm very tough on myself because if I'm not tough on myself who's going to be tough on me? Life, no. Life is tough enough. You got to be disciplined. You got to be fucking tough

and you got to stick with it. If it was up to you guys, I'd be off the fucking air. You know, if it was up to with anything, would stand up, any endeavor you want to do, any endeavor you want to do.

There's always one motherfucker that puts it down, right? There's always one guy that has to make a fucking comment to try to deflate your fucking dream. Fuck that. try to deflate my dream because you're not going to fucking work. Your dream is your dream. So we added the Zoom on this week. We hope you enjoy it. You know me, dog, I'm here for you motherfuckers. I'm not looking for nothing. I'm just looking to cover that one week of entertainment,

two weeks of entertainment. I'm looking to let you know it's going to be all right. And I'm looking to let you know that I'm going through the same things you're going through. We're doing it fucking together. Thank you for watching Uncle Joey's joint. And I'll see you guys. Wednesday morning, tip-top, Magoo, ready to fucking go. If you need to see more, Joey, if you want to see the album of the week, subscribe to Patreon. I think the album of the week is a great idea. Eventually, somebody's going to knock my head off.

Last week, we did the fucking great prior album, so if you haven't seen it, knock yourself out. We're probably going to add, I'll let you guys know on Patreon, but we're probably going to add a code to the Vimeo and just release it to the church, the tier members. All right, guys. I love you, motherfuckers. Have a great week.

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