The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #053 - EDDIE TRUNK - UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT

Episode Date: April 5, 2021

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Let's start this. What's happened, you bad motherfuckers? It's Monday morning. April 5th, a beautiful fucking day to be alive. Hopefully, you cock suckers, had a great weekend. You know what I'm saying? I had a great time. I didn't do much.

Saturday, we had an East Egg hunt, you know, with the kids in the neighborhood. Sunday was Easter. I went over the Jimmy's. And today I'm putting the podcast up. And I got good news for you, cock suckers. I'm getting my COVID shot. I know half years are on the fucking whatever.

And listen, don't make no fucking remarks because I'm doing the Johnson and Johnson. It's one fucking shot. I'm in and out of there, and I'll live with that. I'll wear my mask. You got to wear two weeks to fucking let it get in. Once they told me that, I'm like, what the fuck?

I got to wait more time now. I got to hunt down a shot. Now I got to wait more time. But anyway, listen, it's over. I know a lot of you guys are going, Joey, do the fuck, let's do me a favor. Who gives a fuck?

I'm going to do it. I'm going to take care of this, and I'm going to tell you something, just so you know. Just so you know, motherfuckers, okay? Because a lot of times, it's like when I got locked up,

I could have beat that case because I could have told them the truth and told them I went to the dentist and I got gas that morning and I didn't know what I was doing and they could have maybe throwing it up and I could have beat it, but that's not the case of beating it.

I wanted to get what was coming to me. That's what's coming to me. What do you want me to do you want me to do? If I beat it, then I was going to be on the fucking wrong side of karma the rest of my fucking life. You want me to tell you something? Somebody already approached me and said, you don't need to fucking get a card. I got an extra one here for you that's signed and everything, sealed and delivered with two fucking modernist shots. You're in New Jersey.

What do you think was going to happen? You don't think people are going to already have cards printed up? I could have paid the fucking small 50 bucks and had a card. I'm telling you the truth. But you know what? Just not an example for you guys. Because if I'm going to fucking talk to talk, I got to walk to walk. It's time to stop fucking chucking and jiving like that fucking prosecutor told me.

A friend of mine came through. I called a couple people. You know what I'm saying? Like I, listen, you guys know I'm a fucking pussy when it comes to that shit. If I do the Maderna the first time and I fucking faint and go into fucking convulsions and I fall down, you guys know I'm not going to go back no 28 days later. You guys know that, right? So let's just take the one.

I'll take a fucking heist to my arm, whatever. A friend of mine said, he'll give me a fucking happy pill that he's got up at the fucking house. My sister's going with me. Lisa is going to go with me, actually. I'm also taking another buddy with me that I grew up with because the guy who got us, the shots, grew up with us. So it was perfect.

It was a perfect fucking deal. I'm over 55. My friend's over 55. Listen, guys, it sucked for me, for fucking five weeks to go somewhere and for somebody to email you two days later or call you and say somebody had fucking COVID. You gotta go get the only fucking test I took.

I'm up to here. I'm up to here. I put more fucking Q-tips in my nose and I did straws and I did Coke for 27 fucking years. Like I'm done guys. But that's why I'm doing the shot. So whatever you may feel, feel, whether you agree with me, you don't.

What can I say? Somebody's always got a fucking opinion. Anyway, on the bright side, I want to talk to you guys about something. You know, when I got into comedy, I got into comedy in February of 91. Before that, I took a course for three weeks, a class, for three weeks, three hours of Sunday. Then I got a job at a comedy club to learn the ins and outs of the dynamics. And in the meantime, I watched every stand-up special I could get my hands on, before I went up on stage, so I was fucking prepared.

When I picked up the guitar a couple weeks ago, Mike gave me the guitar, listen, I got 50 people that can teach me. I got, I can go on YouTube and learn. I know I don't have the aptitude. And I know that if I just have a friend teach me, I won't take it seriously. I won't look at them seriously. I'm the type of guy that has to pay for it

because I'm a fucking Cuban Jew. And I know that if I pay for it, then I'll fucking pay attention to every fucking minute. But that's what works for me. Some people could just go online and learn stuff. For me, I always want to be a little bit prepared. I always want to read a little bit more about it. When I go lift, I know how to lift.

I've been lifting since I was a fucking kid. But now that I'm getting a little older, I want to do other things. So I lift with a fucking private little fucking dude that fucking make sure my form is right. Yeah, he makes sure my form is right. He makes sure that I'm fucking not going to pass out. He makes sure I'm not going to throw my back out. You know, you always want to be prepared to what you want to do. When podcasting came along, is there any books on podcasting?

Have you seen any? Maybe now that's 10, 11, 12 years later that people haven't been podcasting. But there was nothing. I was thrown to the wolves. I learned from listening to fucking Mark Marin and Joe Rogan. And then I said, wait a second, let me do something. Let me listen. Let me listen to it because I knew radio was on the way down.

No offense to people on radio. I just knew that radio was going down. So what I did was I started listening to Marin and Joe Rogan religiously while I did my podcast with Felicia. But I also drove a Subaru which comes with serious radio. Most cars do. They come with serious radio. So I got to listen to Jim Norton on Ozzy's Bowie.

and you know fucking Eddie Trunk and I got to listen to Jimmy Florentine and the other guy Keith Whatever on Ozzy's bone yard and I also went dug deep and went into the old Howard Stearns with Artie Lang because I felt that that was the best period of of Howard Stern. That's just my opinion I know a lot of you guys are gonna tell me to go fuck myself or whatever but I just feel that there was a couple dark years there with Artie Lang that I really enjoyed listening to it when he would tell his stories. I really thought it would captivate it. So not that Joey is a thief or an idea thief. I hybrid that. So another guy that I took from was a guy named Eddie Trunk. I listened to Eddie Trunk and I realized that to have a podcast and to do certain things,

You have to have patience. So my inspirations for podcasting came from listening to radio as a young kid, you know, WBLS, the chick on N-E-W. And then as I got older when 93 and I lived in New York, I listened to Stern and, you know, this was, I think, way before Hardy. But it was fucking just outrageous type radio, you know, fucking, yeah, the little guy from Public Enemy when he told, when Howard Stern asked him that,

hey man, I heard you, this is 1993, it's a different time. It's before OJ killed his wife. So the little guy from Howard Stern asked, the little guy from fucking public enemy, not Chuck D, but whatever his name is, he said to him, what's going on with you? I heard you got in trouble for hitting your wife.

Don't you know that women have rights? And he goes, I got laughs. You know, and I was like, what the fuck? I started laughing my ass off. And, you know, not that it's funny, but at the time the joke was funny. And I thought that out, I wanted that outlandishness. I wanted the darkness that Artie gave to Stern. And I also wanted the positivity of Eddie Trunk.

I wanted those three. I wanted to combine that. And that's what I think I do. The only thing I don't do that Eddie does is take call. I don't have that much fucking patience. So what I did was, I really did listen to Eddie for a long time and I felt in love with him.

When I would come to New York, I tried to get on the show. I didn't know who to call. I was too embarrassed to call Florentine. I mean, I just related to him on so many different levels, except that Eddie doesn't get high. So Eddie knew about all this fucking music, and he's basically a sober cat

that maybe has a drink from once in a while and loosens up. He's a family man. But his knowledge of music made me jealous, and that's why I got Dean Delray in there to do music podcast. So, you know, all, when you see me doing something, it's because I've paid attention to a lot of things and taken them into one.

Simple enough, let's just simplify it. On the podcast today, we got a trunk. I was lucky enough to get him to have a Zoom call with me. Once I got the jersey, I did a show at Uncle Vinnie's one night. He showed up, and we had a great talk. So I got an opportunity to bring him on the show. Do me a favor. Enjoy me and Eddie Trunk.

Thank you for watching, guys. How are you, man? What's happened, Mr. Trunk? You're looking good with the little new hairdo. That's called just, that's called what's left in the hair coming out of the shower. Congratulations on your vaccine. You're fucking fully vaccinated. That's it.

Did you get it yet? Not yet. I'm waiting for Johnson Johnson. You know, I'm a fucking pussy. I hate needles. Oh, is that right? Oh, I fucking hate needles. I just had the surgery.

I had enough needles for the fucking year. I have like a quota for needles for the year. They took, I don't know how many stitches they gave me. I don't know how many needles they gave me. I got the one in the fucking spine, the block. Oh, oh, the epidural. So you got to give me a breather with needles for a couple weeks. Like right now I'm not prepared.

You had that, though. this is nothing. Really? It's a little, let me tell you, the thing, it's funny, because when I got the first shot,

the guy said to me, when he gave it to me, it was like, not even two seconds. It was like, bink, bink, I didn't even know he did it. And I said to him,

I go, man, you're good. I felt like nothing. And he goes to me, yeah, he goes, I don't know what these people

are doing on TV. He goes, they're making it look like, It's this big procedure. He goes, and they're like gone like this. And the needle looks like this. He goes, they're doing a big wind up and shit. He goes, it's nothing.

He goes, it's like, and I go, yeah, it really was. He goes, yeah, they're trying to make it more dramatic when they know there's a camera on them. But it's really not, it's nothing. It's really nothing. Your arm's going to be a little sore for a couple days. I mean, I had, my wife just got the second. She had the same one as I did, the Moderna. And we had, we both had the same thing, like for about 20.

12 hours after the shop for about 24 hours, you feel like shit. You sluggish, maybe a light fever, but 24 hours later, you're good. My wife just had it on Saturday. Which one? She did the Moderna, and I just watched her evolution. She did that like 2 in the afternoon, and by 8, I could see her face. She started to get a little pale. We came home.

Me and my daughter watched the honeymooners, and all in the family. that's our ritual on Saturdays. Nice. And my wife passed on it. She's like, I got to go to bed. Yeah. Sunday, she felt a little sluggish. She did some stuff.

And then she went down like at five. Yeah. And then yesterday she was men's and morto day. But so far, so good. I'm going to do with Johnson and Johnson. I called a couple different, you know, because it's made in Jersey and we can't fucking find them in Jersey. Yeah, I know.

How the fuck is that? It's right in East Brunswick, and I can't get it nowhere. So I've made calls, but forget vaccine talk. I want to fucking welcome you to Uncle Joey's fucking joint. This is an honor for me to have Eddie Trunk on. You don't know what you mean to me, how you've helped me be a better podcaster. I wish you knew how many hours I spent listening to you in the fucking car driving on the 405. And I always tell people, my expression is you have to have the people.

patience of Trunk of Eddie Trunk. I remember telling Florentine that for the first time. He died of laughter. I go, nobody has the patience of Eddie Trunk. He handles the heavy metal guys with gloves like I've never fucking seen. When they call you, that is the funniest calls, and they always have a southern accent. You always get a redneck that call you and say, hey, hey, Eddie. Man, they used to be the band call speed trap in 19.

and you would fucking, I remember them, they put out a small album, I don't know why they couldn't, you know, like you just fucking know everything, but it's always rednecks that call you. It's never like a guy from Jersey going, hey, Eddie,

what the fuck is going on here? It's always like, I get those, I get those, I get those. I mean, that's the cool thing about doing a live daily radio show that's a national broadcast is,

you know, you're going to get, and I'm very aware of that, you know, you can get people in New York or L.A. You're going to get people in Arkansas and Oklahoma, and everybody's going to have a different view and a different feeling about stuff and be in a different situation. So I try to give everybody equal time and a shot.

And then we got the Canadians that call in because Sirius XM is on in Canada too. So you'll get them and they're always the nicest people in the world. So you learn everybody's, you know, everybody's thing based on where they're from. I would sit there and listen to you. And it was the same thing with Florentine. I rekindled. I met Florentine. 97. To me, he was just Jim Florentine. I liked them because he lived in Wee Hawking at the time. And I'm a Hudson County boy. So we became kind of friends. We reacquainted ourselves over the 2000s, little by little. Jimmy, how you doing? But I'd see him in L.A. On Sundays, my daughter would go to church with my wife, and I would have this time in the mornings, and it would be you and Jimmy,

and I would listen to Jimmy. And one day he's describing an Iron Maiden concert, in Asbury Park. It was Judas Priest and Iron Maidemus opening up for them. I was there. July of 81, probably. Yeah. And I'll never forget this. Like, I have been here eight months now and I have not gone to Asbury Park.

And I will tell you why, I hear it's beautiful. But last time I went to Asbury Park, we got out of the car. We closed the doors. It was a Z-28. We didn't even turn around and some guy threw a bottle at us. and it was Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and that's when Jimmy Florentine lit the smoke bomb. I was going to a couple heavy metal concerts,

and I kept realizing that somebody kept lighting fucking smoke bombs at these heavy metal concerts. And one Sunday I'm driving, and it's Jimmy telling the story about Iron Maiden when he lit the fucking smoke bomb, and they called him, and his mother had to go get him, and his eyes were red. So his mother asked him, you know, he was stoned, and I've heard your stories about concerts,

I mean, we all grew up in Jersey. We're all about the same age. We all went to the same fucking concerts. And here you are on the East Coast. I'm on the West Coast. I'm like, I can't wait to meet this fucking guy. Because he knows everything about music. No, you do.

And that's why when we met for the first time, just recently when I came to your comedy show at Uncle Vinnie's a couple, two, three months ago, I mean, you know, people like us were from the same area, like you said, around the same age, the same thing. It's weird, I find, like, even if, even though that was the first time I was really meeting you, I felt like I knew you forever. Me too. It was amazing. That's how it is when you, when you're, you know, kind of cut from the same cloth and come from the same world. We probably, we're probably in the same line waiting for concerts. I, you know, I used to go to hole in the wall. I used to go to the bubble factory, the soap factory to see, I saw Aerosmith at the Soap Factory.

fucking aerosmith. No Joe Perry. Rocking a hard place for it. Yeah, terrible. They were horrible. It was a nightmare. I used to go. I never saw Bon Jovi in Jersey, but I saw the good rats, all those old Jersey bands, you know, sticky fingers.

They were all like cover bands. Joey, how old are you? 58. So you got two years on me, and that's a big two years because you caught that period of time where the, before the, probably before the drinking age changed. Yeah. Because for me, every time, I had, all my friends were a couple years older than me. And it was always like, they were always like, would you hurry up and be 18 so you can get

in the clubs? And then Jersey moved it to 19, then the 20, then 21. Every time I got a year from close to the drinking age, they moved it a year later. So I didn't get to go. Like, I remember going down to the Jersey shore. I mean, I still got a place down in Ortley. And I walked to Seaside Heights boardwalk. And that's where I won all these records as a kid.

And I remember there was a bar on the boardwalk called the chatterbox. And I used to stand outside of that bar as a kid and just listen because they always had the door open to the band playing and like dream of what it would be like to be in there and actually be at the bar watching the band. They kept moving the drinking age a year later on me until finally, you know, I hit 21. But if you were able to catch it sounds like a little bit of that tail end of the Jersey club scene too. I caught the tail end

I went to CBGBs as a fucking 13 year old because Jersey didn't have pictures on your license so if Eddie Trunk had a brother named Mikey Trunk me and Eddie me and Eddie were fucking criminals

we stole Eddie Trunks we stole Mikey Trunks ID so they had no paper they had no picture on him and the only thing the guy would ask you is what your sign is like if he you They would go, what sign of you?

That's how they would fuck with you. There was no paper. They couldn't prove it that it wasn't you. So I still remember going to see a buddy of mine took me to see the police at CBGB's. And, you know, nobody knew nothing. Nobody said anything. You know, it was like accepted.

So that's the only way I got in to go see those bands that young was because of fake IDs from Jersey. Yeah, I couldn't. the bars and the clubs because I was just missing that. Like I missed the whole, the whole twisted sister thing when they were so big in the clubs. And I missed all that because I was just too young. But what I did do was I would go to a lot of shows that were happening like in theaters and stuff where you didn't have to be drinking age. So I saw Metallica with Mustaine still in the band open for the Rods and Vandenberg.

Wow. Kirk Hammett's first show with Metallica was at a place that is only about 10 minutes from where I live now in Dover at a place called The Show Place. And I saw all kinds of metal shows there. And Kirk's first show with the band, I was at that, and that was there as well. Interestingly, it just went up for sale. Kirk should buy it just for the history he has there. But it's, yeah. So I would always go to shows like that until I was legal drinking age and get into a car.

clubs. Jimmy showed me some places off the nine where he saw Metallica. Like he told me he saw Metallica. What's Metallica's love with New Jersey in these small places? Tons. Well, Jim, Jim used to go to Club 516. That's probably the place he showed you. That was one of the places. And then Jim used to work at the Birch Hill, which is now condos or something. But the bird show was a great spot because there were a ton of shows there in the 80s and even in the early 90s. I even saw like Marilyn Manson there. So it was going for a pretty long time. But so Jim would have seen stuff like that.

But Metallica had huge routes in New Jersey, even though they were West Coast, because the guy who signed them and put out their first two records, Johnny Z, on his company, Megaforce, was based in Oldbridge. So he relocated them to the New York, New Jersey area to make their first record.

And while he had them here, put them in a house in Oldbridge, he had them work to clubs and play gigs wherever he could get them in the area. So they have huge roots in New Jersey and very, very much tied to it from the earliest days. And then the crazy story about that is I ended up how I got my job where I worked for Megaforce Records for Johnny and his label from 86 to 90. And how I got that gig was that in 83, when I started in radio, Johnny drove to my metal show that I was doing on WDHA had this record by this band.

I only knew Johnny because he had a store in the flea market, a record store. I said, what are you doing at the studio? He got this record. Nobody will touch this band. Nobody will play this? He said, will you please do me a favor and give it a shot? It was the first Metallica record. So I played it.

Yeah, I played it. Nobody knew what it was. I played the song just because he was standing there. I was only on the radio like three. months at that point. I was right out of high school. And he left and he said to me, if I can ever get this band to happen and get my record label that they're on off the ground, I'm going to come back. I'm going to hire you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know what that was going to happen. And then three years later, he calls me up. He says, I got good news. I got bad news. The good

is, you know, Metallica took off. They left. They went to a label. I got a big settlement. I got money. I'm good to go. We're going to start the label officially. I want to hire you. The bad news is you won't be working with Metallica because they're leaving me. That's how I'm getting the money. I said, great. And I went to work for him for four years. So indirectly taking a chance early on on Metallica and knowing Johnny and him being of his word, that's how he ended up working for him and doing a label thing.

I always still did radio, but I had a full-time job at that point doing label stuff. Have you always been a metal guy? I would definitely say hard rock. Hard rock. You know, metal is a very big. broad term to somebody now metal would would be like stuff that I don't even listen to like metal's gotten so extreme and things have changed but you could go to somebody and say the term metal and they think bon Jovi and deaf leperter metal and then you know slayers metal and this so I always

love metal but I love the more traditional metal like we talked about priest maiden metallica what have you but I'd say what better probably classifies what I like now, just because metal has moved into a more extreme direction, would be probably more accurately called hard rock. But hard rock, rock, metal, I've always had to have some guitar, some edge, some, some, some, there's really, you know, very little music outside of that that I personally listen to. I've always been at my core, a rock guy. Now, the other thing that you and I agree on that when I heard you say it, I almost crashed my fucking car. because I have felt strongly about this album for years,

and nobody would hear my cries. I'm like a domestic woman, a domestic violence victim, that gets beat up and nobody hears my cries, is UFO strangers in the night. You and I both agree on the same page that that is one of the best live albums of all time. I listened to it two nights ago out of respect for you because I was going to see you.

what what is it what do we classify UFO is that heavy metal is that metal is that just it's hard rock okay that's that's the best way shankner on that album does things that it's what jimmy page did at the garden to that guitar during the song remains the same i mean you and i are in agree i've heard you over and over discuss it with different people what is it about that that album? It may be is my favorite album of all time. I think it's definitely one or two of the among the one, two, or three of the greatest live albums ever made.

I just, it's hard to say because we're talking about a band now that I absolutely love, as you said, you love. And they never became a household name in America. But they have their fans. Outside of America, they're way bigger, actually. More people know them. They had a huge influence on bands like Metallica, Iron Maiden, and all these bands that went on to greater things. But I think what I love so much about them is I always liked Joey melody with my heaviness.

So I always like great singing. I always like melody, hooks, along with great. guitar and just great energy. And to me, no band has ever done melodic, hard rock better than UFO. The vocals, the songs, the guitar playing, everything. Listen to a song like Love to Love, that song alone. Where it takes you, it's mellow, and then it punches you in the gut, and then it's got the great guitar melody, and then it's just incredible. What a beautiful opening on that live album. It's a beautiful opening Love to Love.

And that live album, so prior to that, the studio recordings of all those songs are really good, but it was when they put it all together and did that live and the energy. It's funny, because I've talked to the band about it many times,

and they're amazed because people who love rock music, even though it's not a mainstream thing that everybody knows, most people that are hardcore rock fans do worship that record. And the band is fascinated by it, and they acknowledge that it often comes up in the top greatest live records ever. But the thing that they find so funny about it is at that time, they were like coped up out of their mind.

They were like, that was like the height of them drinking and drugging and everything. And they don't really understand how they found their way to the stage, let alone played that well that night. And it's really a live record. You know, so many live records got one in, they doctored them, they re-recorded them. I talked to the guy who produced it. It's pretty much a completely live record.

And that's another thing that I think you really feel in that, that it's not a studio record with applause. That's really how it went down. It's one of my favorites. I love UFO. What's, I can't, you know, so much has gone on recently that what's the aisle with one more for the rodeo on it? That's my...

Obsession. That's a great fucking album. That is... That is one of my... I love him as a guitar player. You know, I... It's so funny how I... My first live album was Get Ye Yaya's out by the Stones.

And I did not like it. I did not like it. You know, then Ted came along. I liked Ted's double live gonzow. I love... I've been looking for Frank Marino's live album. I've been listening to that lately. I saw them at the Metallands in 78,

and they've never, you know, it's so weird when I read Keith Richards' book, he said, he spoke about how we've forgotten how to make live music. There's no more live albums, you know. We, our age group, at least, we got so many great live albums. Even Aerosmith's live album.

Great. Isn't bad. No, I love it. Super underrated and totally real, because it's all radio broadcasts. I think Bootleg is a tremendously underrated live album. I think it's underrated. I saw them live a couple times.

I wasn't happy with them. I saw Joe Perry open up for Hart at Radio City, and they were okay. You know, Joe Perry was going through his fucking dilemmas at the time. But I think bootleg is great. I think... Were you ever a Kiss fan, Charlie? Yes.

Never saw them. I think it's fucking phenomenal. I think it's great. I've heard you talk about kids. I had a dear friend that we were friends in the eighth grade, and we're both Kiss fans, and he died. So I took the three Kiss albums that I had, and I put him in the fucking funeral casket,

and I said, next time we hear Kiss, we'll listen to it together. So lately, the last three years, I've broken down a little bit, because I love rock and roll, whatever. What's that, the one album, Rock and Roll Over. Oh, I love it. I love, I want you. And then I love Destroyer is a fucking monster. and Kiss Alive is just a fucking monster, you know,

but it's weird how the people today, I feel bad for them because they didn't get to experience these live albums like we did. We really were right there. You would get the live album and then go see the band or whatever, you know. We don't have that no more. Like the people growing up today, nobody, you know,

you might get a bootleg recording or something, but there's really no live music. Are you excited for this summer to go out again and see shows? And are you ready? Yeah, I look, I don't, unfortunately, I don't think we're going to get big shows this year at all. I think we're going to get shows that will be more theater, maybe reduced theater, club shows that I think will come back. I think maybe towards the back end of the year we'll get a couple festivals, hopefully in certain parts of the country. But I don't think we're going to get like the outdoor sheds or the,

arenas or certainly the stadiums back until next year. You know, being in Jersey, I drove by the down the Garden State Parkway the other day, and every year you go by for people not in the Jersey area, our local amphitheater is called now PNC Bank Arts Center. It used to be Garden State Arts Center. That's what we all know it has. But the signs there, you know, right on the Parkway, and it always shows you around this time, it scrolls all the events and concerts are going to have there.

And there was nothing. There's nothing on the board. So I don't think we're going to get the shows back the way we want them for probably another year. But I am optimistic and excited because I am seeing encouraging signs. I'm seeing some things being announced. Look, I don't make all my living on the road, but I make a good amount of extra living on the road out there hosting stuff and going to shows and being involved with shows. So I took a big hit the last year without a lot of shows going. on. And the good news is starting like first weekend of May, I've got stuff coming in where like,

hey, we want you to come to Texas or Oklahoma or Sacramento or North Dakota. Like it's all like throwing a dart. But it's cool. That's starting to come back online a little bit and I'm going to go do it. So I think the signs are encouraging, but I think unfortunately the bigger the band, meaning the more amount of people, if you want to see ACDC, I don't think you're going to see that for another year at least because it's just you can't fill a stadium right now. What's going on with the Motley crew tour? I heard that they put out a few dates. They're coming to the Jersey.

I know I went on the PNC schedule, and I saw Steely Dan for July the 3rd. And I'm like, how to fuck, unless Steely Dan does 20% of PNC, I don't know what PNC seats. 10,000 maybe. I mean, I think the other thing about it is, look, they're not going to open that building

for the summer just for Steely Dan, obviously. No, they had other people on the schedule. If you go online right now, you'll see that they have people on their schedule. Is that right? Yeah. Because there was nothing on the marquee when I went by it the other day and they usually always scroll the stuff coming up. So I don't know. I think there's a lot of people just trying to, I think some of the promoters are really concerned to go all in and announce the show and put it on sale because it was such a nightmare a year ago when they started to have to processing the refunds and rescheduling and everything. So I think everybody is like really gun-shy about jumping in until they know what they can do.

Because you and I both know from being out there. And of course, what you do out there as a comic, I mean, you know that for some of these places, you can't do a reduced capacity because the economics don't work unless the artist is willing to take a hit on the money. Because the promoter can't pay the artist the same amount that if he, could sell 10,000 seats. If you can only sell 2,000, and if the artist might not want to go do it for that reduced amount of money and just wait it out.

So it's just, it's the wild west. I mean, people are just trying to figure it all out. Now you just heard the other day, they're saying you might have to show a vaccine card or vaccine passport in order to get into these places. And there's people chirping about that.

So I don't know. I think everybody's figuring it out. You have seen some people that have routed some shows, figured out a way to route 20 shows. Because you also know, and most people know, there's a huge difference between doing a show or doing a weekend and touring. In order to tour, you've got to be able to do five, six shows a week to make it make sense financially. Right.

But if you're a smaller band and you can fly in and do a weekend and fly out and rent gear, then maybe you can make that work. But I don't think to answer your question before, that Motley Def Leppard tour, there was a lot of blowback about that because a year ago, Everyone on the planet knew that that was not going to be able to happen. And Live Nation didn't pull the plug on it and announce it until like a week before the first show. And people were pissed because they had their money tied up and people didn't know what was going to happen and they wanted refunds if they needed them. That was handled really poorly. Well, here we are about to turn April.

The first date of that is supposed to take place in Florida in June. I don't think there's any rational person on the planet. And I really hope I'm wrong, Joey. I don't want to be pessimistic, but I'm just realistic. There's anybody on the planet that thinks that they'll be able to do full stadium shows this summer. Just not going to happen. Just look at sports that Mets opening day is only going to have $8,000 out of $50,000 there. They can't do it.

So what are you going to do if the building is, if all the tickets are sold to 40,000 people, we're going to go to $30,000 of them and say, you can't come, even though you have a ticket? What are you going to do? Go to the band and say, we know you're going to do. paying your X, but now we're going to pay a quarter of that, it don't work. It doesn't work. So they're going to just have to move it into next year again. They haven't announced anything yet, but look, let's be honest too. These promoters, if they can hold on to your money for a year or two, don't hold on to it. You're not seeing the interest they are. They tried to do it on a comic level.

Like I told everybody canceled. And they were like, no, we're moving the dates. That's what they were getting away with. We're moving the dates so we're not going to give you your money back. I turned around and said, give them their fucking money back now. That's the way to do it. Now, now, don't wait. There's a couple of rock bands that did that.

Bon Jovi did it. Bon Jovi did it. Leonard Skinner did it. Somebody else is one other. I think Allison Chains gave them their money back. Not Allison Chains. Rage Against a Machine. I think. I think. I'm not sure. But they were holding on to their money until we canceled it officially. Yeah. I kept getting people hitting me up going, hey, man, you're still selling tickets in this place?

And I was like, no, I'm not. That's canceled. And I had to call the club personally and tell them to give them their fucking money back. Cut the shit. Give them their fucking money back. And they did eventually, you know. Yeah. I had a guy call my radio show like two, three days ago.

I forget where he was in the country. And he goes, hey, Eddie, he goes, great news, man. I just bought a couple tickets to the Motley Leopard show. He goes, in a couple weeks, in a couple months, I'm so excited or whatever. I go, what did you do that for? He goes, well, they were tickets for on sale. I go, well, of course they're going to sell them to you. Because once they got you, you're going to have to go through a song and dance if you can't go.

Or they want to hold your money for a year. That's the whole thing. You know, can you imagine the amount of interest that you can make on receipts for a tour that's, you know, 40,000, 50,000 tickets a night for how many dates? I mean, sitting in an account escrow somewhere for two, three years. That's real money. So of course they want to sell you right up to the second and then pull it. So you just, I tell people all the time, like, just open your eyes, man.

If you're okay and you're in a financial situation where you're okay having that happen, that's fine. But there's some people, as we all know, who have had a rough year here, lost work, lost their jobs or whatever. You don't want to have your money tied up and trying to fight together. it back. It's ridiculous if you're, if you're trying to deal with that right now. Well, I'll tell you one thing. Like, I don't know if you noticed the UFC sold out an event in Florida. 15,000 seats in 31 minutes or some shit like that. So I think, I think that poison, Motley crew and all those deaf leopard on that tour, they're going to be faced with this question.

Florida's going to let you do it. Texas is going to let you do it. Texas is going to let you get together, but how many other states are going to let you get together? So they're going to look at that and go, so we got 12 states and let us get together. What did New Jersey announce today? We could 200 people get together. 20% over 2,500 or plus building. Yeah, so it's not going to happen. We're not going to happen here.

So tours are not going to happen. It doesn't work, Joe. Your thing, what you said is true. So even if they said for a tour like the Motley Leopard thing, okay, yeah, you can do Texas, you can do Florida, you can do Oklahoma, you can do Arkansas, whatever. You can't put a production like that together. No. Hired crews, buses, planes, all the shit you need, the staging to do five shows when you're supposed to do 40. It doesn't, the economics don't work for anybody.

So it can't be, that's why the club level, theater level stuff. you can if you're a smaller band, fly in and do something. You know, I had the guitar player from Iron Maiden on my show the other day. And that's a huge band internationally, obviously. And I said to him, he was on promoting a solo side thing that he's doing. And I said to him, I said, Adrian, I said, this is great timing for you. Because you're going to have at least a year before Iron Maiden can play, you can now take this and go into the clubs and have some fun and play if you want to,

because you got a window because you're, you know, you're cursed if there's such a thing of being in such a big band, but since you have something that you could play a club with, you could still get out there and have some fun and promote this. And he agreed. He said, you're right. So that's the thing. If you're a rock fan, you want to see some weekend shows or some stuff in clubs and theaters, you'll probably be able to see that. But the big stuff, I think it's next year at the soonest personally. I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see something happen. I mean, I host a, festival in Tulsa outside of Tulsa every year. I've been doing it since 07 called Rock Oklahoma. It's a big three-day thing. And that's on schedule to happen. And they normally do it

Memorial weekend, but they moved it to Labor Day weekend. So now we're a little later. So they feel good about that happening. They feel good about that. Again, that's Oklahoma and it's outside. So it should be okay. I know the Eagles went on sale, but they also went on sale for September. Right. I think their tour one on sale for September straight. And I think by that time,

things will be a little lightened up more. We know what will be. I don't know how many people will want to be inside, even with a vaccine. You don't know. I mean, this is all, well, looking into the unknown, you know. Right. I'm just happy that they have a vaccine

available and that we're going into the right direction for performers. You know, I want I want to see live music again, especially now that I'm in Jersey close to you and the Florentines, and I know how much you guys love music. I'm in, like I'm in.

But I doubt a band like guns, you're not going to see them for a year and a half. Axles are pain in the ass when it's a full fucking audience. Can you imagine with a half an audience? That's not going to, you know, they employ fucking hundreds of people. So I doubt it's going to happen, you know, and I feel bad because I was looking for,

forward, I would go, you know what, I go see Steely Dan, I don't care at this point. I just want to get entertained so I could entertain. You know, that's the way to be a better entertainer by you getting entertained, you could entertain. But whatever happens, happens, you know,

I'll just keep listening to fucking UFO and Eddie Trunk on the radio and for entertainment, you know what I'm saying? That's it. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Everybody figures out, you know, to get through this, but I'm optimistic, man, And we were talking earlier, I don't know if it's going to, where you're going to post where we're going to post this, where you picked up.

But I was able to get the vaccine and I got, I'm fully vaccinated now. So that, that feels great, man, because I mean, they're saying, and they got more research today. They just said that the vaccines are over 90% effective. I mean, it's unbelievably effective for this. So I feel really good. Like next week, I bought a place in Vegas. You did. Yeah, I love Vegas.

I bought a place there. It was always a dream of mine. I close on it in June. But I'm going out next week to check on it because it's being built. It's a condo. It's being built. And now I'm looking forward to going out there. And of course, look, if I go some place and they say you got to wear a mask or whatever,

I'll wear the mask. I'll wear the mask. I'll play. No problem. But now, but now if I go to something or my, friend owns a restaurant there. We get a couple guys together. We're all sitting down. Everyone's eating. I'm not going to be like freaked out. I mean, it really feels good to know that if you trust the science, that you've got a very slight chance, even if somebody's sitting next to you,

God forbid who's got the friggin' virus, you got a pretty good chance of not getting sick. So it feels great. You know, I everybody makes their own decisions what they want to do, but I can tell you that, you know, being vaccinated and after a year of, of, of, worrying like, you know, did my mask below my nose. Is this guy sick next to me? I did some stuff on planes. I did travel during the pandemic before I was vaccinated. I did do a few things with a band that went out on a bus.

I, you know, it was a little risky, but I had to take my chances because it was a gig, a good gig. Now that's like not even in my mind. I'm like, I mean, it's in my mind because it's everywhere, but I'm not worried about it anymore. It feels great. For me, I just, I got sick and tired of getting the calls. Three days later, there's a waitress who's got COVID. When you went to the restaurant, the waiter had it. I got an email one day.

I took my wife out to lunch. They took our emails. Fucking two days later, I got an email that I got to go take a test. Thank God there's a place close to me, and I became friends with the guy. The guy's a Rogan guy. So I was going in there anytime, you know, I didn't want to get my producer sick. He's got children. He's got parents.

parents. So I was as conscious as I could be. You know, I'm not going to do it. Well, what I did, what I did was, so I, when I, before I was vaccinated, the little bit of travel that I did and the little, at the gigs that I did do, I, I, uh, I played by the rules. I did the mask the whole thing, washed the hands, did all this, all this stuff they told you to do. And then, because I got two kids and my wife and stuff, so what I did, and I'm fortunate, because I've got a second house at the beach. So what I would do is I would land. And then my wife would be like, go to the beach house.

I'd be there by myself. I could work from there. And I'd stay there for anywhere from seven to 10 days to make sure that I wasn't sick. And I'd just go to the CBS. I test. As soon as the test came back negative, I came home. So I've made sure that, you know, I took every precaution that I could at that time. So now it's going to be nice to know I don't have to worry about.

that because my wife's got the vaccine. Even my daughter was able to get the first dose. So they're really rolling it in Jersey right now. I think, I mean, if I can't get the Johnson Johnson, I have to settle for the Moderna and faint twice because I usually go down twice. And in my

mind, if I faint, they're going to rape me. So I just get these fucking wild little fucking fantasies that, you know, I hate faint and that when I go, when I had surgery on my knee, I go, I knew those motherfuckers stuck a finger up my ass or something. Like, I always feel bad passing out. I don't like

passing out. So if I got to... Joey, I just got a colonoscopy. You ever get one of those? Oh, fuck, yeah. So you know they put you down for that. They give you that propofal, man. You're gone. Two hours, nice. You wake up. They won't let you leave to your fart. You're in a fucking room with 20 other guys

Nelson. You just hear like a symphony of farts. Blah, blah. And you see a guy leaving. They won't let you leave to your fart. And then you just see fucking people leave and like they just sucked the dick. They're walking out with their heads down. They're embarrassed because you heard them fucking a clarinet noise come out of their ass.

It's tremendous. Michael Jackson, that's the shit that Michael Jackson was using to go to sleep. No, he wasn't. Yes, Joey, that stuff. So the stuff they put you down with is called Propheaval. And it is the same exact stuff. When Michael Jackson died, he had hired a doctor. That's why he had a doctor 24.

seven because you need to be oxygen and monitored. It's a general anesthesia, but it's remarkable because it's a little syringe. It's like a milky looking substance. The minute they hit you with that in about a minute, you're down, you're out until they bring you back. And that's what Michael Jackson was using to sleep. And I know that because I got to get a colonoscopy every three years because my dad had colon cancer.

So it's a family history thing. So I'm like an old pro at having my ass, you know, hit with that thing. And the doctor said to me when I saw the, because they kept saying with Michael Jackson, it was like a clear, it was like a milky-looking fluid that he was being injected. So I looked at it. It was like it almost like smoked in the tube. And I said to him, I go, is that propofo? And he goes, yeah, that's what you're getting.

I go, is that the stuff that Michael Jack? And he goes, oh, yeah. He goes, it made big news. Michael made big news with it. He goes, as a matter of fact, among anesthesiologists, he goes, we now don't even call it Propheaval. We call it Jackson Juice. In the medical community, they call it Jackson Juice.

But that's how crazy this fucking guy was, tragically, that he was putting himself to sleep with general anesthesia. And that's what you didn't wake up from. Because the doctor went and took a call from his girlfriend or something and forgot to bring him back at the right time. the doctor was watching Jeopardy. There was really a story like that. There was.

I'm like, I'm like, I'm kidding. The story was like the doctor like, for God or like, because you got to have, I mean, you don't let somebody,

keep somebody down for eight hours on general. You got to monitor the vitals. And he took, he took a call or something from his side piece or whatever and got wrapped up. And then that all shit, Michael Jackson's sleeping, and he couldn't bring him back.

It's insane. You're a fucking trip. You know everything about music. What's your beef with the Grammys this week? You still mad at them? Those cuckers. That's a disgrace. It's a disgrace.

I mean, they don't, they don't have a clue about rock music. They don't care about it. They haven't for over 30 years. From the time they gave the metal Grammy to Jethro Tull over Metallica, when the world laughed at them, they haven't changed since. It's random. It's a joke. It's a metal.

And this, to me, what they did or didn't do for Eddie Van Halen is the greatest, greatest offense in many for rock fans on that show. I mean, they don't even televise the Rock Award anymore. It's insane. But to do that or do so little is just mind-blowing. And I don't care. I don't want to hear from the producer, oh, well, the family didn't want it. No, no, no. You and I both know.

Producers' jobs are to produce. So if somebody says, Eddie's kid says, I don't want to play eruption. Well, you got five months. Figure something else out. Don't mail it in and pull a 15-second clip and throw it in with everybody else. This is Eddie Van Allen.

You don't do that. It was disgraceful. It really fucking is. I always see you get hot during music award season because they are either that or the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They fucking go. They try to fuck with my man Trump. And he's like, I mean, I'm a voter.

I'm a voter for, look, look at this. People will be amazed at this. Hold on. So look what I got here. This is like crazy. This is an official Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ballot for this year. This is a real ballot. This is like, this is what, you know, one of like, I have like one of a thousand votes that determines who gets in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

I'm actually a voter, which I'm telling me. I give them credit because as much as I crush them when it's deserved for rock music, they came to me like, I've been a voter for like six, seven years. And they said, hey, look, do you want to be a voter? And I could have been a jerk and been like, no, fuck you. I'm not doing that. You guys suck. But then I'm like, that would have been hypocritical.

Because if I want to make change and I want to see change happen with this thing, they're letting me have a major voice. in who gets in. So I actually got to give credit to Tom Morello because he's the guy who got me on the voting committee and I voted ever since. I don't, I don't rant. People love when I ran. When we were doing that metal show, they used to love to get me riled up because it made for good TV. People loved it. You know, you and I, people love to see the big guy getting crazy, you know? Crazy, yeah. So my producer on that metal show used to always say to Don and Jim, Make sure you poke the bear, poke the bear, meaning get me going, get me crazy, right?

It doesn't take much. So, but I tell people all the time, I don't do that for effect. I don't script it. It's not planned. I just, if it's in me, it comes out. And I just, whether it's on the radio or TV or any of the things I've done, if it's a passion and you push my button, I'm just going to let it go sometimes. but I don't do it for effect. I don't do it unless I feel it's warranted.

And with the Grammys lately, and certainly sometimes the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I mean, I'm lucky I got a voice, I got a following, I got a platform, I'm going to use it. I'm happy you do, because even last year I voted. And I don't see where they come up with these names. You know, I was voting for Pat Benatar. I grew up on Pat Benettar.

She should have been there long ago. I went to see her last year, and then the bass player told me there were up for it. Don't say nothing in front of her. You know, I voted for every fucking day. I voted for her, you know, whatever. Then she didn't get it. I couldn't fucking believe it. You know,

I talked about it on the podcast. Then she didn't get it. So I thought there was some type of fix was in. So fuck it, I moved on. You, when you say you voted, what are you talking about? The fan vote thing? Yeah, the fan vote thing. It's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. I realized that after I fucking got taken by it. I realize

it's a sponsored thing. The entire The only way the fan vote comes into play at all for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is if there's a tie. So say somebody's on the fence and it's 50 votes, 50 votes in, 50 votes not in. And if that person won the fan vote, then that would get them the other vote to get in. Otherwise, the fan votes, just a popularity contest. It will not get anybody in. That's great to fucking know, because I didn't know what was going on because I know. This ballot, which is just.

is what the actual voters get. My votes on this, if you can see at the end, this is where I make my selections and mail it in. But my votes on this, I get to pick five. Each of my five votes means more than the entire fan vote. That's how weighted it is towards the voters versus the fan vote. The fan vote, if you notice the fan vote's sponsored. It's always like presented by some company.

So there's a lot of that going on, you know, about pushing people to a brand. And of course, the artists love engaging their fan bases and they love winning it. Who wouldn't want to say we won the fan vote to have the most fans? That's all great. But the reality of it is it's not getting in or out unless it's the rare case where it's a tiebreaker. Eddie, I'm looking forward to this summer because we're going to get the hang out at one point or another. You know, Jimmy has asked me a couple times, and I just didn't want to, you know, COVID was scary for everybody. So I didn't want to meet you and give it our first meeting.

I'm going to give you COVID or whatever. Nobody's going to invite me over. So now that you're all vaccinated up, I'm going to get vaccinated up. You know, I put myself on a Marlboro list and all the towns close to where I live. Hopefully we can get together and talk some more, man. I'm a big friend of yours. You know, my time zone change. So now when I get in the car, I either get Duff or Tom Morello.

I don't get you anymore. Because my time zone was different. In L.A., I think you come on at 2 Eastern or something, 5 Pacific or 4.30. So I would take my daughter to kickboxing, and I would sit in the car and watch her and listen to you. And I would watch a kickbox, you know, so it was great. but my time zone change now now i never listen to eddie drunk i'm never in the car when eddie's in the fucking car so it kills me two o'clock so a lot it's live two eastern every day on 10 six and then it replays every night 10 eastern uh and then you can always listen though

on the app joey uh you could always just an hour after i'm done with the live show there's tons of people i know that do that they just go to the app the whole show's there and a little secret about the listening on the the app the commercials are cut out. So two-hour shows like an hour 40 every day. And you can listen that way too. So there's a bunch of ways to get it. If you want to stay up to what's going on, what I'm doing. But I want to tell you, when we talked about this and your manager, Brian, who's a friend reached out to me a while ago, I would love to have you come sit in with me on the show anytime and just talk rock. Consider it. We're going to do that, no doubt. The only thing like I said to you is, and feel free

to call in. If you ever want to rant about something or chime in, you're always welcome. Anytime. Just text me. I'll get you right on. But I said, it's funny, like, there's been over my career a lot of comics that I've become friends with because they're rock fans or fans of what I do and I'm a fan of what they do, whatever it may be. So that's how I met Donna Jim to begin with, and that's how that metal show came about years ago. And that's how we became friends, because they used to listen to me and we met at a concert. But, you know, Brewer and Dice and all these guys I got to know because, you know, they were into rock and roll and they come around, they hang out with me and stuff. You know, Norton, I mean, there's tons of people I can think of, gas, all these

guys. So when I have people like that on, and we have come by, it's always so much better if you're just in the room and you're hanging out and you're shooting the shit like we're doing now versus, you know, more of like an interview with somebody, especially they're just rock fans wanting to hang out and shoot the shit. But obviously, this frigging pandemic, I mean, I'm not even allowed because of like liability concerns and hopefully it's loosening up, but I'm not even allowed to be sitting like, I'm in my home studio right now where I do my show from. I've got another mic right here. I can't have and be face to face with another person on the air yet because they're worried about if they get sick, I get sick, or whatever.

So it's a weird time, but I think it's getting better. I already got some stuff lined up on the road. But as soon as that restriction lifts, I got a mic for you right here. We're both in Jersey. You're 40 minutes from me. We're going to do a show. We're going to shoot the shit and get into it. Good.

I'm happy, man. I'm happy to the time today. I really wanted to get you on the podcast and talk some shit with you. I've been a fan for a long time. I've learned a lot from you. And I wanted to thank you and tell you you you're a great fucking guy. I appreciate it, man. Jim told me for the longest time he was saying to me, he goes to me, when you meet Joey,

he goes, you're going to love Joey. Joey's like you. He goes, you guys, I'm telling you, he goes, trust me. You're going to meet Joey. It's going to be like you know him forever. He goes, you got to meet Joey, said to me. And that's when I was coming down to my place in Ornily a few months ago. And I told Jim, because he would come down.

hang out with me down at the house. And I said to him, I go, I'm on my way to Ortley for a few days. He goes, come by Uncle Vinny's. Joey's there. Joey's there. So I was like, perfect. So it worked out great, got to say hello. And yeah, man, I felt like a brother from the minute I met you.

So anything you need, you got, you're always welcome on my show as well. Obviously, for now we can do nothing but a call, but soon we're going to just, we're going to be kicking it for sure. You got it. But I'm going to take a ride to the shore every Wednesday with my daughter and wife. I haven't been to seaside since 1983. You're close, too. You're an hour probably from where you are.

So I'm going to go to all the shores. So when I go to seaside, I'll give you a call. And maybe I could meet you on the boardwalk and say hello. And your daughter and wife will sit outside and have a drink and talk anytime. If I'm there, you're always welcome. Sounds good, brother. Thank you for taking the time today. I know you have a busy schedule, and I love you to death.

Thank you very much. It's all good, man. I appreciate you having me. Love you too. Take care of yourself. Don't be afraid of the needle. Go get the vaccination. You got it.

I'm going. And we'll be hanging soon, man. Take care, all right? Take care. Have a great weekend. Thank you, brother. Thank you, Joey. Bye-bye.

Bye-bye. All right, you bad motherfuckers. I want to thank Eddie Trunk. You know, I've been a fan of his for years, so I'm really happy. He came on. He always puts a smile on my face, fellow New Jersey. And I want to thank you guys. for watching on a Monday morning.

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