The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #106 | JON BERNTHAL | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ

Episode Date: October 13, 2021

Welcome to The JOINT..... It's Wednesday, October 13th..... Today we spoke to our Great Friend & Actor, JON BERNTHAL! https://www.instagram.com/jonnybernthal https://www.twitter.com/jonnybernthal This episode is brought to you by DraftKings, Public Rec & CBD Lion….. Download the DraftKings SportsBook App & Enter Code: JOEY https://www.DraftKings.com/sportsbook to receive $100 in Free Bets when you Bet $1 on any Football Game when either team scores a point…. Go to https://www.cbdlion.com Use Promo Code: JOEY or CHURCH For 20% OFF Your Order! Go to https://www.PublicRec.com & Use Promo Code: JOEY for 10% OFF! Follow Uncle Joey on Social Media: https://www.Twitter.com/madflavor https://www.Instagram.com/madflavors_world And don't forget..... The Mind Of Joey Diaz on PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/joeydiaz #JoeyDiaz #Madflavor #UncleJoeysJoint #TheJoint #JonBernthal The JOINT is Produced by: Michael Klein aka @onebyonepodcast on Social Media: https://www.Instagram.com/onebyonepodcast https://www.twitter.com/onebyonepodcast Huge Thanks to BEN TELFORD for the Tremendous intro video.....

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shit to do. What's happened, you bad motherfuckers? It's Wednesday, the 13th of fucking October. Do me a favor. Somebody call me, please. Anybody know where the fucking time is going? Where the fuck is it going? Friday's going to be the 15th of the fucking month already. Where the fuck is the

month gone? Where has this year gone? All I remember being fucking 4th of July, me lighting firecrackers and a fucking one of those Roman candles. It's October, fucking 13th. It's great. I'm feeling good. I hope everybody's doing well at home. fucking went to this place

last night and fucking Edison called Harold's. Holy shit. I wish I was exaggerating to you, motherfuckers. The sandwich is possibly nine inches fucking tall. I've never seen anything like this.

Yeah, it's this fucking big. You go with six people, even the waiter will say, just order a sandwich for two. You're like, but there's six of us. He's like, trust me, just order a sandwich for two. Holy shit

I went off my weight watcher points I mean I blew the fucking system last night If you get a chance to go to Harrell's and fucking Edison The onion rings The fucking listen It's the best Jewish deli I've been to since fucking cats And you guys know I love motherfucking pastrami

I kept it light to a couple ounces You know But I had to eat a fucking onion ring And I had to get the fucking mushroom barley You know I'm down with the Jews From day one Jack, they had cagled, they had all that Jew food. I was like, what the fuck?

And it just wasn't, it was delicious, the fucking dessert. Have you got a chance to go there? I got to tell you something, motherfuckers that I'm really proud of. Jersey got some good-ass food. I mean, good-ass food. You know, South Jersey, holy shit. I mean, I am very, very, very fucking impressed, guys. And it's, you know what me?

I look to talk shit about somebody's restaurant, but dog they don't even give me a fucking opportunity to down here everything is good even the fucking wah-wah when ari came down here he was so excited that there was a wah-war I had a $35 gift certificate in my car I had to give it to him he was like oh my god it was like giving him a fucking you know a fucking receipt to like what do you call those coupons you give people like gifts to a restaurant like it was like giving him like a fucking thing to rios or something

He was so fucking excited. Over $35 a gift card. You get gas. He loves the sandwiches in there. Like, people, the fucking pretzels. Oh, my God. Mikey brings me to pretzels. Some nights I get super fucking stoned.

I put them in the microwave oven. I put a little hot mustard on those motherfuckers. Oh, what? Or, you know, me, I'm a hillbilly. I'll dip those motherfuckers in olive oil. So when I wake up in the morning, I shit nice. You know what I'm saying? That 10 points.

for the whole press or you eat a half of it's only five you gotta use your head cuckers you know what what I'm fucking think you're dealing with Joey bananas I fucking I'm having a hard time sleeping like three nights in a row I didn't know what it was and I'm like oh instead I smoked that pipe I got a bang it out with the fucking joint last night I went back with the joint I got some of that fucking laughing gas I put some keef in that motherfucker I rolled that motherfucker up and I went in the front and smoked it holy shit I came down I don't even know who I talked on the phone last night. I fucking blacked out again.

I'm starting to feel like that chick that died. What's the name, the singer? I got to go to rehab. I'm telling you, dog, I'm like Amy Winehouse Jr. I'm blacking out at night off a reefer. No, nothing, nothing else. I do some edibles. You know, I do like, I do the tea, which is two milligrams.

I do three ABX capsules, which is 300. Sometimes I put an extra one in there for good luck. You know what I'm saying? Like you don't want to slip on the way to bed. You want to put a little fucking, a little extra 400 for good luck. I'm out of the tincture, the farm's tincture, but I got the syringes. So before I was using a syringe, the whole fucking syringe in the tea, that's a waste, that's overkill. All I got to do is I could split the syringe now into four nights.

If you're looking to make that Michael Jackson tea, you could split. You get a syringe from fucking. and whatever farms, and I just put, like, maybe two tents in there. That's it. And guys, it's over. I put the tea. I make a regular cup of tea. I put an ice cube in there for it to cool off,

so I don't have to sit there, like, Grandma, for two hours, drinking tea, sipping it. I don't need that in my life, burning my tongue and shit, burn the roof of my mouth. One day I took, because then I take the tea bags out, and I suck on them for a while. Like, I just suck on them, like, they're nuts. I put one on this side and one on this side, and I just sit there watching tea. just a little bit under my gum I suck everything out of those fucking tea bags because the tincture

and shit goes into the tea bag. So I drink everything out of the tea bag and then I stare it up good, the tea and I down that motherfucker. The joiner's rolled before I even go upstairs to prepare the tea. You know me, dog. The joiners rolled at like 9.30. I don't want no misunderstandings. I go from

the tea to the porch and I smoke my fucking bone. Oh my God. I'm loving it, guys. I don't need to smoke in the daytime no more. A lot of you guys threw me out of the church. If you're not high by 2 o'clock, go fuck yourself. I get it. Hey, I'm against the rules.

But I'm doing my own motherfucking rules. I'm down to one fucking number a day at night. That's tremendous, guys. Especially coming where I was coming from. I was smoking 82,000 bongs a day. And that was just a bongs. Never mind the fucking hits. I hit that freeze pipe again the other night.

That's not a bad. Oh, that's not a bad. When Lee told me he wasn't coughing anymore, I knew there was something in it because I remember when I lived in Colorado I never fucking coughed and I wasn't that high altitude I gotta tell you something

that fucking pipe they're great little fucking pipes I'll give you the bong because I'm not gonna use the big bong I used the little one the one I show them I used the little one that thing hits like a fucking mule

that'll kick you right to fuck up I've never been a big bong guy the big bongs are nice but A they break they're big and b I've always felt that the little mules do the best job If you get yourself an 18-incher and smaller,

that little midget one I don't like the midget bong, that's a blow job, that's a diehard. But the fucking... The buggler, yeah, I like the big, the medium fucking whatever. I don't like the little... I don't mind having a buggler, but it's got to be a little fucking bigger, you know what I'm saying? Today's guest is John Berthor.

I've been friends with him since Grudge match. He was on the church. I've never been friends with a leading man before. We speak all the time We got tight after grudge match And we got tighter On the bond during the Sopranos It was great to have him

You know He's just a great guy to have around He's knowledgeable as fuck He knows everything about actor Acting And he's just a great fucking actor As you guys know I'm not a good actor

I'm a mediocre actor But I work hard So I make it seem like I'm doing something But uh This guy's your guy's just great. He's been a great friend to me. Great, like I said, it's great having a fucking leading man. As a dear friend, you could ask him questions. I'll never be a leading man.

So it doesn't fucking matter. I love this guy with all my heart. He's got a new movie out that he sent me a night. And he knows my taste. I mean, we've talked about all the movies. He hit it right on the fucking head with this movie. I've watched this movie twice. and I was about to watch it again last night but it was just getting too late I was watching the Dodger San Francisco game

so I didn't really want to fuck that up I enjoyed it man this is one of those movies I like small-time movies I mean I like big movies too but the best way I've learned about acting is by doing small production movies you know when you do a big movie like Spider-Man too people opening up the doors for you

have eight people gushing around you tucking your shirt in making sure, oh, you have a little hair over here, shape that you do a $100 a day movie or a low-budget movie or a movie that the budget's not that high, a lot of those people aren't on the set. You got to fucking do it all yourself, so it's a big education. I had a podcast yet.

I was on some girls' podcast yesterday, Sweet Girl, Jessica. And I was explaining to her that, you know, years ago, like I had been 20 fucking things. I got 75 acting credits, guys. You know, I should know a thing. fucking two. I didn't even know I didn't count them. The guy Chuck counted him

when he brought me up at the Q&A in Eaton Town and whatever. I have 75 credits. You learned shit after a fucking while. But I told Jessica yesterday on the podcast when I was doing her when I was on there that I did General Hospital

fucking years ago. If I would have got that call for General Hospital when I moved to L.A., I would have been fired. They don't talk to you on that set. They don't say nothing. You check in, They tell you what room you're in, and that's it. There's a monitor on the wall that tells you when to go out, when to rehearse, when to come back,

then they'll bring you back out again. You don't even have. You go out there, you say the lines to a soap opera. Like, let's say I'm doing a scene with Mike, and I fuck up a line, we start the scene from the top. On a soap opera, they don't even give you that. They started from that line. Pick it up from where you felt, oh, okay, Charlie, let's go.

You know, that type of shit. And they rush you out of there. You're like, you're gone. Okay. That's it. There was days I was getting there at 8 and I was in my car at 9.15. Like, they don't fuck around. They rap at 5.

So if you're thinking about getting into acting, me and Mike were talking about this early. How, yeah, when you're a musician, we're told that you have to be a musician and a band and tour. Not really. There's other type of musicians. There's people that make millions of dollars that you don't even see. You've never even heard that makes jingles. You know how much money there isn't fucking jingles? What's that one, the Jeopardy jingle?

That guy gets like $64,000 a week. I think it's one of the guys that created all those shows. He also created the jingles to those shows. This company, Marv, something, Merv, or something like that, his company is fucking huge. So just because you're not touring doesn't mean, it's like right now I'm looking for a content writer job. That's the same thing as doing comedy.

You're writing. Who's not better? better than fucking you for a content job. That's me. That's what I'm looking for. A little content writer job to describe. I have a friend that was a big time director. And one day he just quit. You know what he does?

He directs the videos to how to build shit for Costco. No, for IKEA. He's been there for 15 fucking years. Happy as a pig and shit and he's home by 5 o'clock. So always, you know, don't give up. If you're a musician and your band's fucking up, who cares? just create jingles and make millions of dollars and you don't get VD.

Who's better than you? Enjoy John Berndtall, cock suckers. What's up, my man? What's up, my man? How are you, Joe? He's good to see you, man. Great to see you. I saw you on the red carpet. And then they made me fucking go in

and I didn't see anybody. You know, I got to tell you, man. You know, I saw you there. I saw you there. And you, our eyes connected. Joe, I love you so much. I love you too. You've always been so good to me.

Like, you know, it's crazy because then I spent the rest of the night there at that fucking party looking around for you trying to find you. And I was so bummed that we didn't get to see each other. You were the guy I was looking for. But, you know, we did. You know, it's like we, it was like an old school romance movie. You and me, you know, we locked the eyes. And I see, and it's, you know, sometimes, man, everything that needs to be expressed can be expressed in a look. man I you know I felt you and I saw you I just I just wish you know and even today I just wish that

I got to be with you you know what I mean it was great though was great seeing you it was great seeing you on the big screen you know it's fucking great man how are you I'm good man I'm good you're so good in that movie man so are you were great I love that boo-hoo I still say them I'm saying boo-hoo to everybody now when you boo-hoo junior I fucking loved it boo-hoo look at dicky malteseanti He fucking his dad died and he stepped up. Cock sucker. You drove that fucking guy to kill Dickie and shit. With the boo-hoo.

Yeah, yeah, man. How's this new movie you're shooting? You're enjoying it? Yeah, it's good, man. You know, here in Baltimore, man, it's a, you know, it's a really, it's a, I'm really honored to be a part of it, man. You know, David Simon, George Pelicanos, those guys are heroes to me. You know, I'm making it with this guy named Ray Green who directed the, this movie, King Richard I got coming out about Serena and Venus and their dad Richard Williams.

You know, I love this guy making it with. I love this town. It's a beautiful city. It's a brutal city. It's got so much heart. I'm so grateful to the people here for embracing me. And it's a sensitive story about sensitive stuff. But, you know, the people in the police department here and the people in the community here, they've really welcomed me in.

it's a that's a real honor for me Joey. I know you love all that shit. You love it. You're the real deal, man. Listen, since I became frenzy, I started watching your work. And I'm watching it to learn, you know, with a fucking eyeball

to learn. I can't tell you how much I love that punish you. I cannot fucking tell you. I cannot tell you. I look at it, I want to ask you some questions about how intense was the training before. What disciplines did you train?

You were fucking motherfuckers up in that show. I mean, look, Joe, you know, the training part, you know, the, the weapons, you know, the stuff I do with Taryn, out of Taryn Tactical, you know, those guys are the greatest. The weapons training, then obviously the, you know, I've done the fight training, you know, most of my life and with Kerrigan, who you know and love.

And then, you know, I'm, I'm, look, man, the folks from the military, Kevin Vance from the Navy SEALs, Tyler Gray, the guys that have gotten to meet along the way and been part of my training and everything, you know, I'm just, I'm so grateful to him.

And the training, look, that's, I mean, I don't mean to be, I don't know what the word is, I don't mean to be cute about it. You know, that's the fun part. That's the easy part. You know, I think the training. I think, you know,

the tough thing, there is, you know, it's really at its core, it's about a man who's lost his wife and kids that they were taken from him. And, you know, like you, man, my family's everything. Until you know what it's like to have this profound love, this love where you absolutely, in a second, give your life for them, for your kids, for your wife. Until you understand what that's like, you can't even begin to start to imagine what it would be like to lose that. And And that's a, if you really want to approach that realistically, that's a, that's a dark road to go down. It's a dark road to go down.

And I think the hard part of that is that you got to, you got to play that, you got to respect that. You got to do that honestly. You got to go to those places. And also, man, look, this character means so much to the, the comic book audience, to law enforcement, to military. And that's enormously important to me. It was enormously important to me to, to look. Look, if you say you want to do it right, I don't know how to do it right. I just know how to kind of give it my all.

And that's what I wanted to make sure that I did the entire time. And that's the only part we can, that's the only part in this business and in this job that we can kind of control, is giving it our all is effort and dedication. It's really crazy when it comes to acting. I came from the stand-up school. But I grew up loving movies. I love film. I love sitting in a movie theater.

The whole, I have a process. I have to eat Chinese food. I have to smoke a joint. I like going to the movies by myself. Maybe too. Because people are paying the ass. So I like going. Movies, I've always held sacred.

You put, like, I've never, I've been to acting class and I've, you know, done little things. But your level of commitment to acting, I could definitely see it on the big screen. I don't know if you could understand that, but your commitment, and I really saw it in the many saints, I saw a little bit of it in the Punisher. I saw a lot of it in small engine repair. You're a powerful fucking actor, you know. Look, Joey, I appreciate you saying, and I say it right back to you,

but don't you think the whole thing, I mean, look, when you really think about stand-up and what you guys do, you know, I have so much admiration and respect for it because you guys are flirting with disaster every time. the courage that it would take to go up there and not only risk bombing, but embrace it. Embrace that risk.

They live on that line. What do you got for me? What do you guys? They're a danger here. All right, I'm going to run towards it. I think this thing that we do, we've got to find that. We always got to find the danger. We always got to embrace the real palpable risk of a failure and of falling flat in our face,

taking that big risk. I think we've got to do it. I think that that comes really, for me, it's training, it's dedication, but it's also just living life, man. It's living life. It's been gone through shit, growing, changing, you know, sticking your, you know, seeking adventure in the way that you've lived your life, understanding that you're going to fail, admitting your failures, you know, going down some pretty dark roads and then trying to come out the other end

of them. And when I look at you and I look at your life and I look at the kind of artist you are, you embody that you embody that absolute honesty at all times absolute honesty at all times where you live your life is the way you do your art yeah i tell you man that a guy just sent me this morning coincidentally i was gonna i knew i was going to do your show and uh some guy just sent me this this youtube video of the last time i was on i guess this actor who was in episode one of the walking dead posted this clip from our from from from our interview when when i was on your show and i talked about a an experience that I'd gone through when I kind of had hit a rock bottom and I had made a big mistake and we talked about sort of changing your life and turning a negative into a positive.

And, you know, man, I love your audience. You don't know how many people saw that episode and have come to me and said, you know, I made a big mistake and I went through a dark time and I turned it into a positive. And I think only folks that have been through that can really talk about that and can articulate that and can then provide hope to folks. who are actually going through that. And you're that guy, Joey, and I'm just really grateful for that conversation. I'm grateful that folks have come up to me and said that that actually had an impact.

We're not here just, you know, I mean, look, we want to make people laugh. We want to have a good conversation. But through this, you actually get to reach somebody and give them a little bit of a hope if they're in a tough time. It's beautiful, man. And I think your story and the way you conduct yourself,

for me, it's inspired. And people have no idea what it's like to be on set with you. What a gift that is. You get a front row ticket to Joey D. You understand. We're shooting the show. Then you get to sit in the back room among the chairs. Normally, I just stay in character.

I stay with it. But I was like a magnet to those chairs because I get to hear Joey just cracking everybody. I mean, the crowd. People don't understand how big of a gift it is to be on set with you, man. It was fun. It was fun. Those were long fucking nights, and we got into some great conversations. Very conversations.

The guy from the brother, he was great late night. He was talking some, he was dropping some truths to the guy that, yeah, Harold. Oh, Leslie? Leslie is fucking, we had some great talks at night. He was, he's a deep fucking dude. I didn't know he could sing. But the thing that you, me, that guy is really talented. The thing that you, me, and him have in common, we love what we do, and we always

opened up our world to take advice. You appreciate your audience. Nobody appreciates their audience more than me. They made me become a better comic and a better person, because I knew they were there. That's right. I knew they were there. They're there watching you.

They're watching your every move to make sure you're not a flash in the pan, or you're bullshitting them, or you're a hypocrite. I've been with them, and I love them. You give you love. If somebody gives you love how you receive, I'm going to give that love right back. You've got to give it back. It's valuable.

And they're coming to see Joey Diaz. That means something. It means something to them. So it means something to you, of course. When you walk on that set, I'm thinking about my performance, but I'm also thinking about my behavior. And I'm thinking about the people

that are coming to see that movie. They're going to have to get a babysitter. They're going to have to drive. They're going to have to do so much to go see that fucking movie. I get all that. I got that from comedy. They're going to get a baby.

On top of the fucking shit you're hitting them with, you know, the popcorn and the fucking raisinets for 2250. And the whole fucking thing, they got to go through a babysitter. They're going to go out to dinner, right? You're going to take your wife out to dinner before you go to a movie. There's all these things you've got to do.

So I appreciate them doing that. I know how hard it is to say goodbye to your daughter and your son. I'm going to see some fucking stupid movie or whatever. I consider all that shit So I want to be the best When I used to do comedy I would do the spots at the store And people are not going to believe the story

But I'll tell you how fucking shitty I am As a fucking comic I would do spots Because I never wanted to bomb on the weekend So what I did was I did more sets So the percentages would be in my favor So a lot of comics

Just go out on the weekends and then they'll bomb on the road one show. They'll go one out of five shows. They'll bomb. I didn't want to do that to my audience. So I'd rather take a bomb on a Tuesday or a Thursday because I know it's coming. You've got to know what's coming.

Once you put your hands up, I don't care how good a defense. What's that ratio? What's that ratio? How many shows you expect a bomb out of? Like if you do 10 shows, are you definitely going to have a bomb? Two out of 10. No, really? Yeah, I don't give a fuck who you are.

I'm all over you or with the audience. I've never seen you bomb your life. You bomb. Well, we're over critical. You're over critical. You look at it. You watch a movie and you do something wrong with your hand. You beat yourself up.

Of course. You do a bad choice. You beat yourself up. Well, I just... No, no. And that's what you need to do. You need to beat yourself up. That's right.

You know, when you're driving home, when I have to drive up Laurel Canyon, that's a beating. That's a fucking beating. That's a beating that your father would give you. You got to get your life together. You've got to step up to giving you this opportunity. You're going to be a pussy the rest of your life?

You're going to be a pussy the rest of your life. You just ate a bag of dicks. Don't let it happen again. You know, that's the talk. But when you're a performer, when you're a baseball player, you bat 364. There's a percentage. So I'd rather go out during the week

and take a brick to the fucking head on a Tuesday than take a brick to the head when those people have a babysitter. and when they really can. Sometimes I didn't bomb on a Tuesday, and sometimes I didn't bomb on a Thursday. So I knew I had to work extra hard. I had to go over my set list before I got on stage,

backwards and frontwards, you know, even though I make it look organic. That's the whole thing, is making it look organic. I want them to think that I said it for the first time. I've said it 3,000 times. Of course, of course. That's who we're at, brother. That's it.

That's it. I'm with you. And that's your love. and I could see it in your work. And that's the most important thing that people have to see. If you call it in, people will see that too. I remember when that I opened up for Rogan.

Wasn't prepared, and somebody came up to me after the show, and they said, dog, you called it in. It destroyed me. Your original feeling is to punch him in the mouth, but then you're like, that's the punk in me. That punk doesn't exist anymore. That's right.

He came to me to tell me your real thought. He knows that he expected more from me. and I called it in. Sure. So he came up to me and told me the truth. It's actually a good friend. Good friend tells you the truth no matter what. That's the only kind of friend you want.

And this guy wasn't a friend. He was a guy in the audience that paid $25 or $40 or whatever he paid to see Rogan. And he got a piece of shit from me. And I agree with him. That night I went up to the room and I was furious. You know, that's if you don't get furious, there's a problem. It's like people who say, well, how do you still get butterflies? If you don't get butterflies, you shouldn't be in that.

If you put me in the ring with a four-year-old, I'm going to get butterflies. Because I know I'm going to get hit. I'm going to get kicked. I'm going to kick him. I might beat him his ass. He's four. I might pull his fucking hair. This small engine repair, tremendous movie.

I saw it twice, started watching again last night. I'm trying to figure out with the wife how to connect it to the TV so he could see it because I'm a fucking idiot. I had to sit there. Great story. Great acting. Thank you. What is this coming out? So it was in theaters, and now it's just coming out.

It's going to be on demand. It's going to be on video on demand now for a few weeks, and then it'll come out in Hulu, I think, next month. So you can see it on demand now. You know, look, you know, it's a movie. It's a real passion project. We did that as a play 10 years ago in L.A. at a 40-seat theater in a late-night piece.

Me and John, you know, the guy who stars, in the movie. He wrote it and directed it too. You know, he's a guy from New Hampshire. You know, it's, look, it's about the kind of guys that don't really make movies about anymore. You know, just blue collar, real guys. And it's really, really explores a father's love for his kid. I know you

understand that and what you do. Nobody's perfect in that movie. You know, it's very much about the gray area. And it's about, you know, sometimes the way we talk. You know, you get joking around with guys. You say things, but then sometimes goes a little bit too far. It sort of explores that.

sometimes it gets dangerous. And nowadays, with all the pressure on these young kids with social media, I don't want to give away nothing in the story, but it shows how one thing can kind of lead to another, how, and the difference between just talking a little shit and when it actually gets toxic and when it gets actually very dangerous. And what that does to these guys, and the way that they handle it is imperfect. You know, there's no, that's the kind of stories I love. It's not about good guys and bad guys. It's all very gray, but very honest. And I think, you know, this writer, John Palano, you know, when I was in trouble, the thing that I talked about the last time, you know, I came on, I was in depositions. I had, I had done see, right after season one of

the walking dead 10 years ago, a buddy of mine called me up and he said, hey, listen, you want to come to come to do this play reading tonight? I'm like, listen, buddy, I'm, I'm in depositions. That's the last thing in the world I want to do. He said, come on, come on, you got to come do it. So I agreed to do it. I show up. It's the last thing I want to do. You got all these theater folks around. I see John Palano there. He's sitting there. I go, what have I got? I got myself into. We read this thing out loud. And I never heard writing like this.

I mean, I think he's the best American playwrights since David Manning. I sent to him after. I said, let's do this. He said, we could do it. I had a teeny theater here in L.A. It's just 40 seats. I said, I'm in. Let's go.

I'm in right now. We did it to play exploded. It became, it won all the awards in L.A. Then we moved it to New York off Broadway, blew up. And it was always this passion project for John and I that we would make it into a movie. And, you know, 10 years later, we finally did. You know, everybody who had ever done the play has roles in the movies. You know, my dog who was in the, who was backstage at the original play, he came and was in the movie.

This dog played him in flashbacks. You know, we, it was a real labor of love. And I think you said it when we talked about it the first time. They just don't make, it's an old school movie. It's funny. It's a thriller. It changes on a dime. And I really think it's, we're proud of it, man.

We're proud of it. I'm really glad that you watch. I knew you'd like it. It's about everything I love. love friends and my daughter and kid you know a kid you know I really love friendship I'm a fucking student of friendship I love you know I was telling the podcast people I went to the carnival my hometown Saturday night and people were asking me like what are you doing here like why are you here do you have a limo driver where's your security and I'm like are you fucking kidding me I came up

here again as a laborer love my buddy runs the carnival he runs that park i wanted to see him but when i got that they didn't want anything from me they didn't want to hear nothing all they wanted was to take a picture in love and they were giving me love what a beautiful opportunity oh my god what's better than that you know you know when i was i was just home a couple weeks ago and i got to go to the nordoff high school football game in my hometown i live in a small town up oh high california there's no place i'd rather be take my kids to the game. And, you know, to see the community to be out there, you know, we, we spend so much time on the road, so much time where, you know, we're just, you know,

we got to be somewhere every second. We got to be on. We got to, it's just great to, I don't know, just to be around folks and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, it's such a gift. And, and, and, and, and, and I know that's who you are, man, I, it's what you do and everything. And we're really lucky, man, we're really lucky that we get to, uh, that, you know, Just the fact that you go and take a picture with somebody means something to that? I can't, I still understand. I can't believe it. I couldn't believe it myself.

I couldn't believe it myself. They didn't want anything. They didn't want to talk about nothing. They just wanted love. They were happy to see me after 40 years. Tons of people. I hadn't seen since high school, my friends banned, who the first time I saw, my buddy looked at it.

I went to dinner with before the carnival looked at me and he goes, it's like being in the shed. When we were in high school, he had a shed. and we would go there and all of us would play the drums and shit. And I turned around and I go, no, this goes back to the rec center in the seventh grade when he was playing the guitar

and his fucking guitar string broke. And I died a laughing. I'm like, why am I laughing? That dude's up there doing something. I'm over here a spectator with these jerkoffs drinking beers and smoking pot. And I became friends with him and now we're dear friends

and his mom was there. You know what it's like to see his mom after 30 years? and I went up to her and thanked her for all the meals, all this shit she put up with it in her shed. They had a shed. We painted the walls, Pink Floyd the wall. They had no heat.

There was no fucking heat back there. And we would go back there when it was 20 below. No place of gravity. Yeah, with our drinking gloves, with the fingertips out, with the fucking drinking gloves. And that was it. Those are what kids do in Jersey. You know, that's why I moved back here.

I wanted my daughter to have this life, friends. friends people who live and die for you people who come over and talk to your kid at 3 o'clock this fucking basement is packed once they get off the bus they all walk down here

I love it and they fucking play and they talk and they come down with apple juices and tell them to knock it off don't touch the guitar you fucks because the kid's up the corner my uncle was a guitar but I don't give a fuck

don't touch the guitar cock's like a great kid they're great kids but this is my life This is, I love this shit. I love it. And you're right. You know, I think this thing about, you know, when I look at the guys I grew up with, they're still my best friends in the world.

And even being here in Baltimore, I'm closer to D.C., so every chance I get, you know, I'm back there with Dougie, to all the guys that I grew up with. And, you know, it's, I think as you get older, especially when you start to have kids of your own, you recognize you're nothing. You're friends, you know, it's funny. I'm doing this show right here now.

that I told you about in Baltimore. And the other day, I was working nights. And during the day, I shot down in Baltimore. And I just, I needed to go see my friend Dougie Thornell. I went to his house. I go, I get outside his house. I just lean on the horn, right? I just lean on the horn outside of his house.

I see him look out the window, like, who is this? And then he sees me, goes, what do you do? I didn't even tell him I was coming. I said, Dougie, I'm not going to tell you the scene. But I was doing this crazy scene. I mean, my character, the thing that he was doing that day was nuts. I said, hey, Dight, this is a kid who was raised on television. He had a milk crate that he used to sit on.

sit on. He sit like this far away from the television, knows every line from every movie. And I go, Dougie, this is what I'm doing in the scene today? Give me, what would I say? What should I say here today? He gave me this line. I'm telling you, Joey, it was fine. I mean, it was just fire. I gave my hug. You know, it's like, we're nothing without them.

Like, he, I would rather talk to him than any writer, any director in Hollywood. He, you know, he gets it. He gets it, and he gets me. You know what I mean? It's a great feeling, man. When you could, and when I got back here, I had some friends that were fucking jackals. you know there's some friends that haven't stopped the fucking grind

and I had to tell them like listen guy it ain't that type of party no more you know call me when you when it changes you know but there's a handful of guys that have accepted me we talk constantly tonight I'm going to a friend's house to watch the dodger fucking San Francisco game you know people like why aren't you doing comedy because I'm filling the void with other things right now I'll get back to comedy eventually but right now I just got I'm in the thing that nobody knows I haven't seen in years

it's called a community I'm part of a community I was at a softball game my daughter's softball game last night sitting on the side 15 parents that passed in Entemans donuts around you know it's a different fucking world I'm living

I'm for your daughter man I mean there's nothing that's the thing there's no job more important than that it's the most important job you're ever going to have raising these kids It's the biggest gift. It's the only chance you're really got to understand beauty. You're going to understand failure. You're going to understand hope.

You're going to the love is so big and so beyond anything. And I imagine that's why you're doing it. It's the only reason. And I'll tell you, with the whole friendship thing, and just in terms of that movie, you know, I just want to say, I'm glad that that's the term that you use because it's a really hard thing, I think, to get on screen for real when you see real friends. the way you joke with each other, the way you know each other secrets, the way you can attack each other

because you know each other so well. And, you know, Shea and I have known each other a really long time. It's his daughter, George, a brilliant actress who's in The Punisher. Shea and I worked together a long time ago, but we've been long-term friends. John and I have been friends for 10 years. And the three of us, the bond was so tight. Everybody's kids were on the movie, everybody who had ever played. All our circle of friends came in and did little bit parts. You know, Kerrigan was there.

I saw Kerrigan. He was great. You know, they were all there. They were all part of it. You know, it was such a labor of love. And I think when you, when the set, you know, when you go, when you approach something with that, with that in your heart, that this should be a place where about love and friendship and family. You know, that was how the entire thing was run. And I really do think it comes out on the screen. It does.

It really does. Now, which one was Shea? The guy that was in Narcos? Yeah, the guy who plays Paki. Okay. Yeah, yeah, the third of, yeah, shit, yeah. And he was, you know, he's a brilliant actor, you know, Borgbeck Empire and Wolf of Wall Street.

He's, he's like, I mean, he's a genius, that guy. He is a fucking genius. He really is. He's on a lot of shit. He's worked a lot over the years. What did you think of the many saints? First of all, what happened when you saw De Niro? Anything?

Man. Well, you know, I gave him a hug. You know, I haven't, you know, I haven't really seen him since, you know, we work with him down in New Orleans, you know what I mean? And it was so great to see him. And, I mean, you know, I mean, that night was just so magical, you know, him introducing it and just being in the king's presence like that, you know. But look, you know, that was my first time seeing the movie. I was really, it was such a perfect night and such a perfect audience for it. You know, I was blown away by the work.

I was blown away. I thought the movie was beautiful. I thought it was shot beautifully. I thought the story was great. I thought the performances were just incredible. When you look at Vera and you look at Leslie and you look at Corey and Alessandro, I mean, just such brilliant performances. But I think, you know, my big takeaway, honestly, was Mikey. It was just Mikey.

You know, this whole thing for me, I've been blown away with Michael Gandalfini since I met him. You know, he came to me before this thing started up in Ohio. and he came to me, approached this thing with so much humility and respect and reverence. And he was in this process, he told me, of trying to get to know his father better. And he was sort of traveling the country, getting to talk to all these people that I've worked with him and been with him, and been real friends of his. And then, you know, he takes on this role. And what a, I mean, when you were, just to try to put your heart around the magnitude of what that must felt like for him,

You know, I was just staggered by the way he approached it the whole way and how hard he worked and how kind he was. He never let the pressure get to him. And then to go through this entire press process of everybody asking these questions that it's not like you and me. Oh, so what was it like to work with Joe? It's not like this bullshit. You know, they're talking to him about, you know, real shit and about his life and about loss and the courage and dignity that he approached that all with. And then you see the performance, man. and you don't see actors at it.

He came in with the dialect down, with the mannerisms down, with the physicality down. He took a big swing. He didn't approach this like some coward. There was nothing safe about that performance, and he did it. And I was so happy for him.

I love this kid so much. I mean, when you think about, I mean, you know him like I know him, when you think that how old that kid is, I mean, I go to him for advice. I mean, such a wise young man, you know, such a lived young man. And, uh,

I, I really, that was my favorite part. It was just seeing Michael and seeing that that worked and that Tony Soprano will forever live in the Gandalfini family. That is, that is beautiful for me, man. Beautiful.

I'll tell you, there's a scene in the movie that killed me. And that's when you get out of jail and he comes up to you and says, I miss your dad. It fucking punched me in the stomach the first, second, and third time. I saw the movie four times. I saw the premiere.

screening and then two Q&A's in Jersey and I the first two times was to watch the movie the second time was to focus on you know that you just focus on the acting I want to learn I'm I'm a student too you know and it was fucking brilliant

I loved everybody's performance I thought everybody did a great job you know and I gotta be honest with you John I would never say I thought I did a good job and I never think I did a good job and when I was sitting there it also dawned on me how I felt like a band.

I felt like a band because when you do your first album as a band, that's your whole life. That's why people have so much hard times with the second album. Because they just got a year to do it. The first album, you've had 30 fucking years, Cucksucker. It better be fucking good. You know, you've had all your life to prepare this first album. You've been preparing it for five fucking years in reality.

That's why it's so good. Joe, you were flawless in them. I mean, you add, I mean, like, when you brought to it, just so much reality and then the humor and then this character that's so lived in. And look, man, I saw what you had. Like, I remember, man. I remember in New Orleans, you know, the state that you were in,

you know, making that movie. And brother, like, I saw you go through this process, how committed you were and how just present you were. And you were only about that feel. Like, when we were making that movie, you were just about it. I remember even that day, the reshoot when we came back, I had to make that speech. And you could tell I was, you know, I was doing another movie at the time.

I mean, the whole time I was making that movie, I was always running off to be doing something else. I never, I always felt like I was just coming in. And you came to me. And I don't know if you remember this, but you said, you settled me, man. You came to me. You're like, you're doing great. Just stay in. And you came in, and you were there for me in a way that I felt that I got to be there for you in New Orleans.

What was that? 10 years ago. 10 years ago, yeah. Joe, you're that guy. You know, like you, you were an anchor. Like, if you wanted to look at something that you absolutely believed in that movie, look at Joe, just go talk to Joey. It'll get you.

I mean, I even talk to you for two seconds. I start talking like you. You know what I mean? Like, that's how your personality and how undeniable it is. And you should be so proud of yourself, man. It was really, your work in the movie is phenomenal. You know, I was like, it took me 20 fucking years to get ready for this movie. That's right.

Like, I was legitimately honest for people. Like, I worked 30 years, 20, I'd done comedy 30 years, 28 at the time. I worked 28 years to get ready for this movie. I took 28 years of comedy lessons, acting lessons, watching movies, watching performances. You know, I was, I mean, I was the biggest Gandafini fan there is. I love, I studied all his movements. When I got the audition, I remember that I go, I got this, because I got this first piece from watching the

Sopranos. It was David Chase type audition, where he didn't give you the right lines. He only gave you one line that counted. So I knew I had to say that one line right. People had talked spoken to me about his audition. Like Sam was on

a couple weeks ago. A little pussy and he was saying that he sent them on audition for like grungy. Grungy wasn't even in the fucking movie. There was no character named grungy. He was fucking with you. But I knew that one line. He had used that before in the series.

Not the line, but the way he had to deliver that line. The music was on. Music was on. So there was an episode where they're in Adriana's office and Springsteen is on.

And they're about to do something and Tony stops and he goes, Sylvia, listen. That was for them. That wasn't, you know what I'm saying? If you picked that up, So with me, the scene was Sinatra. My mother met his mother. I had a point up and go, and that was it.

That was it. And I got that from the series. I love James Gandafini. And Michael, I think, hit it out of the park. And what we're trying to say is he hit it out of the park in more ways than one. That's right. This just wasn't an acting job. This was an acting job for us.

For Michael, it was therapy. it was a personal challenge it was phenomenal I mean it was yeah I think that's a really good way I put it I'm with you on that talk to me about the Serena Williams movie because that movie I'm waiting for it

that's the movie of the year I have a funny feeling that Joey I'm telling you man it's so special bro this one's gonna be so special I mean this this story you know look man

for guys like us you know I remember when I first met Ray Green the director of the movie you know he's next athlete like we are, you know, he's he's a father, he's a family guy, and he's a really committed artist, you know, he's a, you know, he's a, he's a New York guy. This movie is like a meditation on fatherhood and it and it celebrates family, but there's nothing corny about it. It's so real and so inspiring and so, it's just, it's beautifully and authentically made, man.

I can't remember ever being this proud of a movie and a group of people. Will Smith is going to blow your socks off. I mean, he's just, what he does here is just crazy, man. And I really just everyone's work, these young women, all the people in the Williams family, you know, in this movie, they just, they establish. It's like, what you're talking about, a band, they just establish this family dynamic. And it's just real. It's just real, and it's a beautiful sports movie with so much heart. And, yeah, I'm really, I'm really proud of it.

You're going to love it. I'm excited for it. You know who told me a lot about it? Anthony Edwards. Huh. Anthony Anderson, is that his name? Anthony Anderson? The brother, yeah, the chunky brother from hustle and flow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know this. Well, he lived in L.A., and he said that he would walk to school and see them practicing. Oh, yeah. They lived in LA. I didn't know all this. They lived in college. Yeah, they were from Compton.

And he would just tell these young girls, he was going to be the champion of the world. You know what I mean? You believe it. And it's this exercise. He had this unique and beautiful way of parenting that was fully his own. And he stuck to it. And it's about this thing. I think that all families and all parents eventually go through that, you know, we give so much

to our kids and we try to prepare our kids and give them so much love and so much preparation. but at some point, we got to say, go fly. Go fly. Now you've got to make your steps. And that's a hard thing to do, especially for a parent that's been so committed to that child. And this just whittles that down and it explores it in such a beautiful, honest way. I'm telling you, man, the movie's the movie's thrilling.

It's thrilling. When does it come out? Christmas, right? Yeah, November 19th is the movie. Perfect. It's a beautiful fucking Thanksgiving. movie. What else is going on in your world I should know about my brother? Man, you know, I'm just doing my thing here in Baltimore. You know, I got a movie coming out

on Netflix. This thing I did with Sandra Bullock, I think that's going to be really special. That'll come out, I think, in December. Then, you know, I did this other thing with Lena Dunham. A real different kind of film for me, but something I'm also really proud of something I produced and did with her. She's, she's wonderful, man. And, And, you know, then I got this new TV show for Showtime, American Gigolo, and then this thing I'm doing for HBO here, we own this city, which is, you know, again, the same creators of the wire. And it's a real, it's a real special project, something I'm really honored to be a part of, man. And, you know, I'm just doing my thing. I'm away from my kids right now, so my heart's a little bit broken, so I'm trying to make the most out of every second.

That's what we do, Joey. When we're away from these kids, you know, we have to know it's, it's their names we're putting on the work. So I'm just, I'm trying to put every, every ounce that I got into the work right now and, uh, and get home to them and get home to them in a way where I can hold my head high and hopefully I did them proud. Uh, but I'm missing, man. I'm missing real bad. When do you go back? Uh, I'll be done, um, right before Thanksgiving, you know? Perfect.

Are you going back at all, like in between? You know, I don't think I'm going to get the break. I'm going to really try to get back for Halloween so I can take him trick-or-treating. I got to get there. It's just, you know, we're shooting on weekends, and this one's been pretty tough to get away. But I'm definitely going to try. I just don't, you know, I don't want to make them any promises. But I'm hoping with everything I got that I can get home for Halloween.

Listen, man, you're doing some great fucking work out there. And Charles Bronson still needs a motherfucking replacement. dog. I've been over here waiting since that motherfucker died. You know, they're trying to sell you Jason Stanton. Fuck him. He fucking did the mechanic. You can't do that. You got to have some respect in your career.

You can't do a Charles Bronson movie. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you got to act like Charles Bronson and Steve McQueen put together. You got it, dog. You're that motherfucker. I told you. When I watched The Punisher, I called you right up. There was no texting. There was no good morning. I was like, dog,

you're the next Charles Bronson. It's over. You got to start shooting people at night and fucking, like, Death Wish. We got to remake. Well, fucking Bruce Willis, when we made Death Wish, I want to shoot him now, that motherfucker. I don't want you doing a Charles Bronson movie. If you're going to be a Charles Bronson movie, you got to kill double the amount of people.

And you got to kill them smart. You know what I'm saying? I can't wait to see the Sandra Bullock movie. I love Sandra Bullock. Great person, great human being. She's great in this film. I think this movie's going to be really good. I haven't seen that one, but I'm hearing really good things about it.

She's time. She's got to show her monkey, though. She's at that age. She's got to, you know, she's done everything. She's coached the football team. She fucking married Ben Affleck in the one movie early on. It's time for her to show a monkey. This one's different.

I bet you. I'm going to come back and ask this one I guarantee is the side of her you have to see. I love her. Don't get me wrong, but it's everybody has to show their monkey. Even the chick from Titanic had to show it. You got to show that monkey, Sandra Bullock. I want to see it. I've been a fan for 20 years.

I deserve it. It, you dirty bitch. Show me that monkey. You got that Austin shave to it and shit. I love you, John Berthal. I love you, Joe. I love you, Joe. I love you.

And let's connect. I might drive to Baltimore if you're there until November. Come see me, Joe. Because I got John Rollo down there with the gym. We'll go down and I need to see John. I'll take you to the dinner.

I would love that. Okay, no, let's go get a gyro. I know you love those fucking gyros. I was going to take you for one up here. You got some great fucking gyros when we were shooting the many saints. Yeah, you took care of it, Joe. Oh, fuck. And how's Lauren doing?

Lauren's good. Head of Security, man. She's good. She's not with me on this one. I just got Bamband. She's getting married. She met a wonderful guy. He's got like, you know, they're surfing. They're out in this band. They're doing their thing. But I'm sure she says love, man. She loves it. Everybody loves you, Joe. I love her to death. So take good care of yourself. Keep putting out great fucking films. You're one of the best actors out there. And you're my brother. I love you to all my heart. Always. Right back at you. I love it. Stay black. I'll see you in the next couple weeks. I appreciate you. I love you, brother. Thank you. Thank you,

I love you too. Thank you, Joe. Thank you. I'm happy you guys like John. John's a great guy. If you're an actor, look up John, study John, copy John. John learned how to fucking act in Russia. He dedicated himself. He went to Russia. He got mugged the first day. To hear more about John's journey, go to the original

church of what's happening now when John was on. I'm happy you guys. I love John today. Thank you for watching the show. Do not forget the download. It's on, he told you during the interview that small engine repair is on, on demand.

So if I was you guys, I get it. It's a great movie. You don't have to go to the fucking movies. You can watch it on your living room, and it's great. I watched the movie twice. I'm going to watch it again tonight. So enjoy it.

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