The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #131 | DOMENICK LOMBARDOZZI | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ
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What's happened, you bad motherfuckers?
Uncle Joey here on a beautiful motherfucking Monday morning,
January the 17th.
It's colder than fuck out there.
Not really.
They said it was that.
The fucking weather people love to scare fucking America.
They started torturing us like last Tuesday.
Big snowstorm.
It's going to be.
I woke up to see.
morning I woke up Sunday morning fucking dick I'm waiting for fucking you know a snowman
out there it was nothing the sun was out with 24 fucking degrees it could still snow then it got
cloudy then towards the end of the day it started raining now today we got a little slush out
there nothing too fucking serious but it's still a motherfucking beautiful day to be alive
I had a great fucking weekend hanging out my family I called a little jihitsu class on
Saturday I worked out Friday night had a nice dinner with Jimmy and the boys
We ate some Chinese food over at Empire, motherfucking Cessuan.
Tremendous, you understand me?
I gained a couple pounds, but I shit him out the last few days.
I was backed up from the COVID when I threw the fucking kitchen sink at it.
My stomach was fucked up.
I had to drink probiotics for a few days.
And then I went and I deadlift, and everything fucking came out.
I'm still not at fighting weight.
I'm probably like five pounds over.
But I'm tip-top, motherfucker, McGu.
I'm on my way.
I want to tell you guys something.
I've been getting questions from a lot of you guys.
Send them emails asking me about that.
You saw a journal on Instagram or some shit that says, you know, it's a homemade journal, whatever,
and it has different things to get you enthused and all this stuff.
I looked at it, guys.
It's $48 fucking for a notebook with directions.
If you want, I'll take $28, and I'll send you a notebook with a notebook with a picture of my nutsack into some shit like.
You fucking retarded.
You ain't paying $48 for a fucking notebook to journal.
That's not going to happen right now.
It's the same thing.
It's just like has you check in.
Like it's social fucking media.
Listen, journaling is journaling.
It's just sitting there in the morning
and dumping whatever in your fucking heart.
Whatever's hanging on a fence that's bothering you.
Maybe you lost an hour with sleep over it.
You know, a couple of last week there was a night
where I got an email from an agent.
I looked at and I go,
I don't know what the fuck he's looking at.
And that night,
I slept well
I slept like seven hours
but I could have slept like nine
and I got up early
and I was like
that's what's bothering me
it wasn't bothering me
it was just that he sent an email
didn't bother me at all
but I journal about it that morning
and I felt a lot better
and it's so weird
that afternoon
I started getting emails
I got like two emails
and they're like
this is a journal on Instagram
is that what you're talking about
no I'm talking about
go to fucking CVS
and buy a notebook
buy a three
fucking chapter notebook
the ones with the bindings
The first chapter is, you know, by four of them,
because you're going to need one for every quarter.
So the first one is like your daily routines,
what you, you know, your journaling.
What's going on with you?
Maybe you're thinking about your mother or something like that.
Maybe your father.
Maybe your girlfriend cheated on you.
Write down the specifics.
Break it down.
Read it.
That's what the therapy part of it is.
You're reading it.
Once you read it back, it should make you feel a certain way.
And you don't read it that day.
You read it a couple of fucking days later.
At the end, like, I read all my.
on Friday.
On Friday morning, I write my journal on that night for like 10 minutes it takes.
You just go through it.
I write a page of fucking day.
It's that easy.
I don't want you to spend $48 fucking dollars for a notebook.
Chapter 2 could be your fucking goals.
You know, I want to do better at Jiu-Jitsu, I want to lose 20 pounds, I want to go back to school.
What do I need to do to go back to school?
Well, even if it's that simple, I don't give a fuck.
It's that simple.
I want you to break it down into steps so you know exactly.
what steps you've conquered. I got to get my GD. I got to get my mother to sign on the school loan.
You know, I got to do all this fucking thing, but you don't want it to rattle in your head.
So just write it down. Hey, I don't give a fuck. If you think I'm retarded, I'd do that. I'd just write it down.
What do I need to write a book? I got to outline. I got to think of the stories. I got a journal
because I got to figure out what stories I want to use and what, you know, how does this apply to my
fucking story? So I do all this shit. And I've been doing it for, I think this is 1994, when Jim
Andy taught me how to do it.
I usually would put Jim Handy on the podcast this time of the year.
I did it about, you know, three years in a row when I first started the podcast.
It's not that he wrote a book on goals or anything.
He just read it and he turned me onto it in a way that it helped me through it.
helped me with fucking comedy, you know, like it makes you, how do you get better at this?
Well, I got to go there 55 fucking sets a month.
But when I did stand up, every fucking beginning of the month, I pull open the page.
I want from this month. Okay, this month I want to book a guest star and then I would, that would be
one. Then A and B would be out. What do I need to do to do to book that egg shot? I need to go online
and see what's going on. I need to send more pictures. I need to get my reel in order, put
fucking this on it, take this off. You know, you don't want to send a reel that's you in 2004,
completely different with blonde hair. That's not going to get you the fucking job. So it's little
things like that. What can I do for comedy? I got to write five minutes a day. I got to put
together 15 minutes every weekend. When you
keep yourself to the fucking
grind that hard, results will
come, but if you monitor them,
the growth is fucking
tremendous. The other day, I was at Jiu-Jitsu
and after Jiu-Jitsu, we went
to get something next door to eat that bagel boy
on the 516, that motherfucker
they ain't fucking around in there. Not that
I ate it, but it's fucking good. I ate it. Last
time, I'm trying to cut down this time.
Last time I went in there had a double chicken cutlet
sandwich on Italian with
American cheese, fucking
bacon and French dressing, that puts it over the fucking top.
That is a tremendous sandwich with a schnappel iced tea.
Stop.
Where are you going to get that type of love from?
You understand me?
Bagel boy on the 516.
They ain't fucking around, dog.
If you want to be a fat fuck, they got the answer.
But I usually, when I go with the guys after fucking jihers, I get a cucumber salad.
You know me?
I don't eat the cucumbers.
I just inhale the onions, and I tell them to give me extra fucking tomatoes.
I ain't stupid.
Those cucumbers are all right.
If you're going to put them on your eyeballs or something like that.
which I need to put one of those motherfuckers on my eyeball.
I'm getting fucking ugly and older by the fucking day.
Now that I started getting high again,
guys, it's every man to himself.
I'm back to my, if you're not high before 2 o'clock,
go fuck your mother campaign.
I'm back on it.
I already got high this morning at 11 o'clock.
I'll get high when I come back from the gym.
I added fucking smoking dope before I go on a treadmill.
It used to take, like it used to struggle to get me to 30 minutes.
I see the weights and I'm like I should be lifting.
Oh, Friday night.
I got Super Storm.
I did like three hits off that freeze pipe, the bubbler.
And I went down and I put ACDC Power Age on from beginning to end.
I did the whole 40 minutes fucking from kicked in the teeth again, Sin City.
I got to tell you something.
ACDC Power Rage is a bad motherfucking album.
I was looking for it today to make it the album of the week on Patreon.
I don't think I have it.
I think I lent it to somebody.
but that's a bad motherfucking album.
I download it for my tunes on my phone,
so I put the little earplugs in,
and I just walk like a go-goots.
But I got to tell you something, man,
when you fucking walk on that treadmill
after you hit that pipe three times,
first of all, I've always been a firm believer,
especially for me, that you have to,
I smoke a little bit before I go to the gym,
but the last year and a half, I haven't been doing it.
I want to be a nice person.
I don't want to walk in there smoking like Cheech and Chong.
But now, like if I have to go to the gym
at 11. I'll smoke like a 20 to 11.
Drink a little fucking liquid IV,
the cherry, the grape flavored?
Tremendous. And I had, it tastes like
paedilite, you know what I'm saying? But you drink
it, it's good for you. I started drinking it when I had
the fucking COVID, the liquid IV?
Tremendous. I love
the fucking cherry and I love
the grape. I go down there, what do you?
Jerry, we don't give a fuck about grape drink.
Tell us something we don't know about it. It's Monday
motherfuckers.
Listen, I started watching a wire a few weeks ago.
and I'm fucking blown away.
Like I love good TV.
I love all this shit.
But I started watching a while and I was watching.
Me and my wife were watching two episodes a night.
In fact,
last week one day I broke my rule and we even watched one like before dinner.
Like we're like,
we can't even wait for that episode.
Let's see what the fuck happened to Kima.
So, I mean,
when you like a show this much, it just blows me away.
So, you know, I go on.
I'm a fucking nerd for TVs and shit.
I go out IMDB and I fucking read who's in the movie
And I realized my buddy was in it
Dominic Lombardozzi
A fucking good friend of mine
I love him with all my heart
You know I had Dominic on last year
And a lot of you guys
I was in shock because you weren't responsive to it
But then again I was out of my mind
My interviewing skills were low
And I usually interview somebody
When I have something specific
Like a lot of people always said to me joy
Can I get on the podcast
And I go give me a week or two
So I can think about what angle to attract you
And then there's some people that I just, like when I had Chris Schiff on, I didn't have an angle.
I didn't know much about the food fighters and how they got together and what planet they came from.
So there's situations like that where you learn not to have something on the podcast unless you really, really know their background or you're really, really a fan.
I've always been a fan of Dom McLaughalmobosies.
But I called him up the other day.
I said, Dom, I'm watching the wire again.
I'm fucking blown away.
I want to tap into some of the details of the wire and stuff like that.
And he said absolutely.
So, without further ado, it's my main man.
It's Monday.
A little Monday chat with Dominic Lombardosie,
and I'll be back in a little while to wrap it up.
And then I'll come Wednesday and do the solo one
and talk to you about my hemorrhoids
where you people want to hear.
But today, it's me and fucking Dominic.
I hope you enjoy this little chit-chat about the wire.
Stay black.
There he is.
What's the story, Dom?
Happy New Year, my brother.
Happy New Year.
Welcome to Uncle Joey's joint.
Monday morning. How are you, my friend?
Good, man, you?
Fucking putting the pieces together, you know, it was a long.
I'm fucking trying. I gained some weight after the COVID,
because I started drinking cranberry juice and I don't drink
fucking juice anymore. They told you 10 years, I don't have to drink juice.
So I gained a couple pounds, but you know what?
Jiu-Jitsu walking around. I love the treadmill.
And that's it. I'm enjoying fatherhood for the first time.
I'm happy for you.
It's, uh, it's, it looks so, you look so relaxed.
Yeah, that's it.
It looks like you have, uh, I don't want to say like, you don't, you don't have a
care in the world because I, I know we all do.
We all do.
Uh, you, you, you, you radiate that, you know, that's out there.
You know, you exude that.
So, Doug, it was a long time.
It's nice just to fucking be a human being.
Yeah.
I was never a fucking human being.
As sad as that is.
I was always, you know, and then comedy and then, you know, I got a girlfriend, and then you feel half a human.
And then she talks you into using your insurance.
And, you know what I'm saying?
They're like, you got insurance.
Go take care of yourself.
Yeah.
Oh, you mean I could use this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's like been a great fucking journey.
I tell you what, I never thought I'd say this, but it's great to be back on the East
coast.
End the fucking story.
We've had some sidebar conversations, you know, and I didn't think you were going to come back
east.
I actually thought you were going to do like that migration, like to Texas or with Florida
or whatever, where people are going.
And I'm happy you're comfortable.
You just seem happy.
And if you're happy, I'm happy.
I had a feeling that what was about to happen, you needed to be grounded by family.
You know, now I have no family, but the kids I grew up with are family.
I got two guys 20 minutes from here.
I got a guy around the corner.
I see them every couple days, but we talk every day.
And they keep me grounded.
My daughter's godfather I grew up with.
It's just nice.
I'm nice around the people that when they tell you something, you know,
they're going to do it.
They're not blowing smoke up your ass.
It's just nice.
It's very nice, man.
So it's I never thought I'd be back here
I never fucking saw it
Well I'm you know
I I personally could understand why
You know um
Sometimes it's hard going back where you grew up
You know there's a reason why we we wanted to leave
You know
Um
I get it
I get it without going into details
Because I know your history
You know and if anybody follows
Uh
Joey knows his background,
knows how he grew up,
knows about his family,
knows about his neighborhood,
and could understand
why he possibly wouldn't go back.
I couldn't be in that neighborhood,
but I could be closed by.
And now my deli closed there.
The one,
my childhood deli closed about 10 years ago.
So we transferred over to a different
deli, guys tremendous,
Tony,
great guy, and now he closed his deli.
so it's like a, I don't even need to go up there anymore.
I just sit down here, but I got to be honest with you.
During this pandemic, I dipped into every well I can to stay entertained as a comic.
I watched all the specials.
Then you go through the Netflix stuff, and then you go through the Sopranos again
and all this shit, The Punisher.
I watched some great shows.
We're sitting here about three weeks ago, and my wife goes,
This fucking wire is sticking out on.
on HBO.
Did you ever watch it?
And I go, Terry,
with comedy and drugs,
I don't know what the fuck I watched.
I had to,
and I'm going to tell you what happened to me.
Yeah,
like I,
with comedy and the drugs and the weed,
I don't know what the fuck I want.
Get right in.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
Like, I was lost, Dominic.
And then me and my wife had a talk,
and she's,
I go, Terry,
how is this 2002 to 2008?
And she's like, Joey.
Yeah.
Yeah, you got to remember,
HBO was on fire.
And she started reading off
you guys the wire sopranos sex in the city carnival she just started spitting out all these shows uh you know that
HBO had so i i got caught like i never watched if you think i watched the pilot of the sopranos in the first season
i was in cleveland making fucking crazy people laugh i didn't fucking know so i played catch-up the whole time
i remember what this is how fucked up i was in the drugs in life i remember watching the wire
but I got it confused
one of those NBC shows
I think did you get it confused
with the shield no
the other one with the guy what a lot of people do
do I think people come up to me man I love you on the shield
I'm like no that's the bald guy
that's the worst and people get you confused from a movie
with chickless yeah
yeah with chickless no no this was the one
with I'm not even kidding
it happens all the time oh I could just imagine
I was lying I'm not lying
I can just fucking imagine
and when people want to believe what they want
believe
when people
would come up to me
I had a couple
once that told me
I was a liar
that was big pussy
and started arguing
with me on a set
of fucking Spider-Man
I'm on the set
of Sony
and these family
walks by
and they take a double
take they're doing
like the tour of Sony
they were from
Brooklyn or something
Mr.
I'm not him
I'm sorry
I'm Joey Diaz
they kept
turning around
looking at me
going fuck you
you're a fucking
embarrassment
to Italian
say who the fuck
you are
I'm like, you want to see my license?
No, it's a phony.
They thought I was really past door.
So in all this hoopla, I started watching the wire.
I knew you were in it.
I got it confused with some show on NBC
with the guy with the bad skin,
the fucking comedian that was in Scarface.
He was on SVU with me.
We got into an argument on the set,
and they fucking asked him to go home
because he got, I was 400 pounds.
He's trying to pull me out from under a car.
on a sled, but there's snow on the floor.
I'm telling him an ice cube.
Look, I'm stuck on the fucking tire here.
And he kept pulling.
He's like, I'm going to hurt my back, you fuck.
You should have, I'm going to, hey, relax.
We got into a little argument, even though I knew him.
And then they...
He's a comedian?
Yeah, he was in Scarface.
He read the fucking thing when Tony was in the car.
He was the one that was on stage.
Belzer.
Richard Belzer.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So I got all that shit confused.
And then, anyway, we put the,
fucking wire on
and by episode five
we were both hooked
the pilot was
the first episode was fucking tremendous
it just takes you there
and then after
episode five we looked at each other
and said what the fuck is this
and now we're on episode
with season three
and I'm like I got to call fucking Dom
and break this shit
down for me and then we're
going to come back when this
when I finish the season and break it down for me again.
How did you book this?
How did you find out about this?
Give me your fucking process here.
Okay.
2000, uh,
uh,
uh,
2021.
No,
2000,
2001 because yeah,
I remember I just got back from Paris or something like that.
And,
and,
um,
there was the audition for this thing.
Now,
originally,
they were recurring characters.
Hurricane Calver were recurring characters.
So I went, I read for Alexa Fogel.
There was one producer.
His name is Robert, you see his name all over the place.
Robert F. Colesbury.
Beautiful human being, great producer,
produced movies like The Natural.
And he also produced 61,
that I did with Billy Crystal.
Okay.
Maybe three years prior to that.
And so that's the only familiar name I knew on there.
So I went in, I read, they called me back, and I wind up getting the part.
Audition.
Auditioned again, and I got it.
Now, mind you, not a regular recurring.
Supposed to be maybe, who knows, does five episodes, six, but he's doing the pilot.
We went there, went to Baltimore.
it looked like a bomb hit the place.
I mean,
what Baltimore looks like now did not look like in 2001.
Very much like the show.
Very, very much.
You know, actually not even sugar-coating it.
That's what it was.
And all the actors, from day one,
from day one when we were all in that hotel,
I'd never forget,
at the Renaissance Hotel in Baltimore.
We all got along.
We all got along.
And it continued for five seasons.
You all got along, man.
I'm telling you, we were like a family.
We stayed like a family till this day.
It shines through.
It comes through.
Yeah.
And then I remember,
doing the show. I remember shooting the pilot.
I guess. You know, I don't know if this is going to get picked up.
You know, I remember doing the write-alongs and the first time they made us do a ride-along
was with the homicide cops. I'm like, this is not like what we're doing. So they put us
with these narcs and totally different ballgame. Two ways of policing. Completely
different, completely different animal.
And I said, all right. And me
and Seth, who plays Carver,
did our thing, you know, and then when the show
wind up getting picked up, we live together the first season
the same apartment. Like a college dorm. Who came in,
who wanted to smoke wheat, you smoke weed, you stayed over there. If you
wanted to play mad and you stayed over there you wanted to just drinking bullshit you stayed at the
table that's what it was our door was always open to everybody and and when I went to work with
Seth it just was it was like oh it was like this uh okay and we just was easy it's not that it was easy
but working with Seth was easy laughing joke and we understood each other we understood each other's
timing. It just, that's the way that's, it just was a great, that was my college.
That was my college when it came to acting. I was never formally trained. I was never
institutionally trained. I was institutionally trained. Yeah. A couple of brothers taught me how to
act in there. I just, you know, acting is weird. You know, you, you, you act with people.
who have degrees in acting, you know, and, and all that.
So that just wasn't my route.
But I always tell people who are old enough if they remember the Apex Tech for school.
Yes.
Commercial.
Apex.
Remember that guy?
Yeah.
You remember the guy?
Yeah.
You learn a trade.
You learn a tool.
When you learn the tool, it goes in your toolbox.
Remember that?
Yes.
That's what acting goes for me.
exactly just like that.
And the wire was college.
The way.
I couldn't believe with all the people in there.
Everybody.
Yeah, they were all much more experienced than me.
And I had to figure things out.
I had to figure things out.
I had to figure them out quick.
Last night, just to let you know about Seth and you,
last night you're sitting in a car.
You're waiting for the last.
Longshoreman to make a move and you're eating.
And you're like, I'm done with my, can I get some of your fries?
And he goes, what do you mean? And all of a sudden you started eating his fries and he goes,
you know what? You're a fat fuck? And you're like, you think I'm fat?
Just telling you. But while you're saying it to him, you're eating the fucking fry.
You're like, you think I'm bad? And I'm dying of laughter.
And right there, I'm like, no, okay, so in a way, because you guys are.
A comic relief.
You are, but I didn't, I loved how they used you.
I loved how they used your comic relief.
You know?
I loved all that shit.
Oh, my God, when you took the deposit for the $1,200,
and you put the bug in the ball,
and the ball got run over by the fucking truck.
Oh, my God.
All that shit, it balances.
It's like, I really love the writing.
The fucking writing was second.
Look at the names.
Look at the names of the writers as the episodes pass you by.
and you're like he wrote an episode for this show,
Richard Price, Dennis Lane, George Pelicanos.
I mean, these guys are just over my, you know,
it's just like David has such a great system.
I love working on his production,
whether it's whether it's the wire or whether it was the deuce
or what I did a day.
He called me to come and do a day on,
we own this city.
And I just look,
because it's on the page, man.
It's on the page.
And you just have to finesse it
or bring whatever colors you want to it
or whatever your process is
and that's what it is.
And,
but there's something to be said
when the Bible is right.
And on the wire, the Bible was right.
You know, whichever avenue you took to get that through,
whatever you needed to bring it to the forefront,
that's up to you.
But it's on the page.
I mean, one of my favorite scenes is the scene,
is the scene where I console
or I wouldn't say console
but it's probably the only time
in retrospect
that you see Herc
be kind
is with Bodie's grandmother
when they raid and they're turning
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.
Real early in the show, yeah, you go
and he says, see, what the fuck were you doing in there?
Right.
You were very gentlemanly.
And you know what?
I remember getting shaken down by cops in time
and there was one cop that came back and he goes,
hey, we're sorry about this.
You know, not impersonal.
But the show is very unapologetic.
As you watch this show, you're going to realize
people don't change.
People are who they are.
You know, you watch a show and a lot of people sort of have this epiphany
and they changed their life
and all their bad qualities
are miraculously gone
doesn't happen in this world.
Does not happen.
I played a character for five years
who more or less was a bully
when he needed to be
who worked outside of the lines.
Yes, he tried, he was doing it.
to bring down drug dealers.
You know, it's not like he was doing it to rob old ladies or whatever, but it doesn't justify
what he was doing.
He wasn't able to work within the guidelines in order to make a case or bring up a wire.
But if you notice, and we could have this conversation when you finish the show, because
you're going to say, oh, you know, Hurricane Carver, they're fuckups, they're this, they're that.
I have a rebuttal for that sometimes because I've heard it enough time.
But there's no hope in the shell.
Anybody who represents hope doesn't make it.
And you see that.
You're on season three.
You're with Hampstead,
Bonnie Colvin has been introduced.
I think it's just good.
Robert F. wisdom,
who you should definitely have on your pod,
because, I mean, even his history,
Rossafarian and Bob Marley, I mean,
man, I don't even want to give it away.
But I would love to facilitate that for you
because you should definitely have them on your show.
I love chema.
And I'll help you out anyway trying to get something.
I love chema.
Kema.
I love Kema.
I like what she's going through right now
with the fucking wife and the, she's pregnant.
She didn't want to be a cop
And on the other end, you got the smooth
Chief, the thin
brother that could pass
and his going through the same thing with his wife
and my heads, I'm watching this going.
I've never seen a show where they're showing you
what's going on at home as a cop.
Joey, did you realize this?
This show
is, it shows
everybody, every race.
every class, everybody in all different stages,
whether you could be white and corrupt,
you could be white in the nice part,
you could be on the street and have a heart,
you could have a badge,
all the credentials, all the stripes on your sleeves
and be just as bad as the person
that you're trying to incarcerate.
You could be a politician.
You'll get to that later.
But you see it.
You see the breakdown.
You see the breakdown of the social fabric
because the show is the star of the show is Baltimore.
Baltimore represents every little American city in the United States.
You understand?
So that is why that show resonated, should have resonated back then and it resonates even more so today.
I'm watching it, and it's like it happened yesterday.
Let's get that out of the way.
Almost like it's timeless.
And that is David, David Simon, Nina,
a big shout out to Ed Burns, Robert F. Colesbury,
all the writers, all the producers who have played on that show.
And they're genius.
Now, let's get to the other side of this.
Because let me tell you something.
To fill that void,
whoever did that.
The casting.
I'll suck his dick or a dick.
The casting is...
Wait, you don't know...
You don't know Alexa Fogel?
No, I'm a L.A. God.
You had to submit a tape to Alexa.
Oh, my God.
Oz?
No.
Never was...
All Tom Fantana stuff?
Nothing.
She is...
Nothing.
New York.
She's New York.
Ever cast that show?
When I see that chubby black dude
with the dreds, that's a...
drug deal like a kingpin in his own
that the proposition Joe
Proposition Joe the casting on him
so he passed away but got
God bless him so
Un fucking real
the acting on that dude
Unreal his look
The casting when he's
eaten
You know it just shows
I mean the
Snoop come into the picture
Who?
No
Snoop not yet
With Omar
Not yet
Snoop dog
No, the girl Snoop
No, she hasn't been in yet
No, we haven't...
You're rid for something
Yeah, we haven't even gotten the fucking Omar
I decided early on
With all the television I've watched
Everything movies
I think one of my favorite
Fucking bad guys right now
Hands down
Is Omar when he comes into the projects
And he goes, oh
The Big Bad Wolf
And he's like, don't make me come up there
He cocks the shotgun
and it's like a six second now
like maybe a 20 second pause
and you're like why isn't anybody
shooting this motherfucker from a window
but instead a bag of crack
falls out of a fucking window and lands next to
him and you're like holy
fuck
the writing
is second to none
I like that they didn't
make the long show him in Italian
that would have been the easy route
they didn't
and that's not the case in Baltimore
right it's not the case they made them
Polish and whatever
Greek, you know,
I like all,
don't,
and even that guy,
not the guy,
the guy that played the Greek
has been in a thousand things.
Who?
The old man?
The old man.
Which guy are you talking about?
With the glasses that they want to see him all the time.
The Longshoremen want to keep seeing him
and finally he shows up,
an old guy.
He was on Miami Vice.
Are you talking about Paul Ben Victor or Bill Raymond?
I don't know.
The Greek.
Then there's,
the little guy that he was in casino.
Oh, no. He was in
the Irishman.
He was in the Irishman.
There's two dudes that played a Greek.
The one dude is the one that talks
my boy, everybody loves Raymond
and Pacino to invest
in his hotel in Vegas. Come on,
what can we do here for us?
The guy that you...
You see, you remember him?
He played in the Three Stooges as well.
I thought that's where you were going.
No, no, no, I'm a three stooges.
I love all that shit.
Channel 6, Miami in the summers.
I'd be in at 4 to watch my boy.
Now, the actual Greek, the guy who is the Greek, Bill Raymond,
I just finished working with Bill.
He played my father on, I did a show,
a limited series for HBO called Mrs. Fletcher.
And he played my dad.
I'm telling you, it's crazy.
And I worked with him 20 years ago.
You know?
Just to everybody in there, the guy that plays,
the Longshoreman that the cop wants to take down,
that guy, I've seen him do some great fucking work.
Yeah.
You know, everybody in that movie,
everybody in that TV show is doing great work.
And here's where, like, after the last week's episodes I watch
of my wife, we actually had
a discussion that
this show might be as good as the fucking
Sopranos. If you're looking at it from where
I'm standing. It's debatable.
It depends what your preference.
Very debatable, but the writing
is second to none.
The way they go into the episode.
Different fucking complete show.
That's why when people
come up to me and they say that,
I just basically, look, I don't
really classify things like
I don't know. I don't know.
just because, I don't know, it just makes me feel a little uneasy to, to be idle.
There are shows that I like, that I love, whether they be the honeymooners, the odd couple,
Game of Thrones, Sopranos, Mad Men.
See, I think Mad Men is a genius show.
That's a good show.
My wife, it's more of my wife's, he turned me on to it.
And then, you know, sitcoms.
I love sitcoms.
Mike and Molly, everybody loves Raymond.
I just love watching people act.
I love, I love film and I love TV.
I love watching people act when it's something that, like,
when I watch the Y, I'm learning.
I'm taking notes.
Not that I'm going to work, you know, anytime soon, but I'm taking notes.
Hey, man, I did it.
I'm looking, I'm going, Jesus Christ, look, you know.
The thing that,
opens me up to I love watching stuff that opens me up and takes me away while I'm watching
and I still remember going to cop weed on 178th in Amsterdam and there were Cubans in
1984 and I'm like I would go to every day and one day they saw me speak in English they didn't
think I spoke out I was talking English and the one guy came on he's like hey you you want to sell
nickel box for us I'm going yeah why not and I stood out there for like a week until I realized
that I was getting $25 for every
25 nickel bags that I sold.
I had to sell 25
nickel bags when I make $25.
And I'm like, what the fuck are they doing?
So one day I went there, he gave me my
25 nickel bags, and I go,
I'm going to go up the block and catch the people by the
light. The guy goes, that's a good idea.
I went up by the line. He goes, you go up there.
It was like 10 in the morning. I sold
three bags, and I just kept walking to
178 to the Port Authority.
I stopped at fucking the
gambling joint upstairs.
I lost 20 and I got on the bus back to Jersey
And I never cop over there
And then I went to San Francisco
And I lived a block away from the Hayd Ashbury
And again, they were all Cubans
That come over in Mariel
And I spoke English to help us out
So I'm on a corner with these guys
Hiding Coke in the bumpers
Hiding weed in the bumpers
Fucking
It was there was a trans
Not a trans he was a guy
A Cuban dude that only fucked
Half Tranis like Cuban
ones that just put makeup on
and they put like two bags
for their tits and he would have
them out there slinging.
Right. So you went up to him, gave him
the 10 bucks and he would have two
men dressed as woman slinging with a wig
on and heels and the whole thing
and if they fucked up he would backhand
them and the wig would fall off.
It was fucking tremendous. It was right off
his show. So when I watched this
shit I remember like, oh my God
this is as real
as it fucking gets.
Yeah. I mean, that that sort of lifestyle has been kind of, I don't want to say it's been like romanticized, but the streets, anybody who's been in the streets, anybody who's been in their car 3, 3, 3, 4 o'clock in the morning and not been in the best neighbor, but really knows what goes down.
some really scary shit goes down to some like um i mean i i i've i i've i've seen a lot you know and uh
you're like how do you come back you don't come back to being treated like that and they you have
to you know you have to some of these people have to even like it's sad man even watching
Michael B. Jordan in there.
Like, you're still friends of him.
He was 12, 13, 14, 15,
whatever the fuck you did. I'm like, wow.
Look at the acting. No wonder this kid became
who he was. This guy was around
fucking, so the show just
fucking rattles me. I love you
with all my heart, but it makes me love
you more. Like, you know,
my wife and I were talking, and Mercy
was in the room. So we were watching, you know, I can't have my
daughter in the room.
for a while.
No, no, no.
But it gets,
it gets richer,
Joe.
Season three,
season four.
It,
you know,
season two,
a lot of us
were light.
Season one,
we were very heavy.
Season two was predominantly,
um,
the,
uh,
the,
uh,
the,
uh,
the,
notice in the second season, I'm doing a lot of surveillance. We're in the car, where we're on the
boxes, we're here, which was kind of a blessing in the skies because we got to work every day
all the time we, every time we came to work, we did second unit without Robert F. Colesbury.
And then Bob winded up passing away during season two going into season three, which, by the
way, we never knew we were going to have because HBO was never really that hot with the
wire, you know, so David always had to pull the rabbit out of the hat. And we had some supporters
there like Carolyn Strauss at the time who really believed in the show. And we kept getting
another season. But it was like, oh, we're done. That's it.
Very much in the shadows of a lot of those shows at the time.
You've mentioned a few, you know, like six feet under, Sopranos, Sex in the City.
When Sex in the City was on, Sopranos was on, six feet under was on any other.
You didn't know about it.
Nobody knew about the wire when we were doing it.
It wasn't until later on and then we, the show had never gotten nominated.
Never,
David,
I don't think David got nominated.
I mean, he won a Peabody Award,
but he never got nominated.
Michael Kaye never got.
Idris,
Wendell Pierce.
Wendell, how many things have I seen Wendell Pearson?
Everywhere.
He's beautiful guy, too.
Yeah, I love him for that.
Never met him.
A very, very dear friend of mine.
A very dear friend of mine.
Send him my love.
love. I'm a big fucking fan of his. I think he's beautiful.
The bunk. He makes me laugh. You know, he's great.
And he's a beautiful human being, man.
And the other African-American detective, God damn, he's good.
The one that figures shit out in the beginning,
in the first season, he's like the quiet guy. He collects, he makes antiques.
And he was in the pawn shop, a division.
Clark.
That guy is a velvet fucking hammer.
And that's what I like.
I like to see acting.
I don't want to go see no offense to anybody.
Antonio Banderas.
I expect him to be a fucking good actor.
But when you put a cast like that together that I know some guys and I don't know some guys.
And guess what?
The guys I don't know I'm falling in love with, aka.
You also watch Zorro last night?
Which one?
Come on with Antonio Bender.
No, fuck it.
I'm just thinking about some dude that's Spanish or not.
Nobody will come back with me and say,
yeah,
Latinos and shit.
Fucking people.
He could have picked,
he came out with Antonio Bandaras.
Because I remember I was on a plane one time with Rogan,
and he was passed the fuck out.
Rogan gets on a plane and passes out.
Really?
Oh, my God.
You got him for two minutes.
I've seen him pass before the plane takes off.
Really?
Yeah, and then he'll wake up mid-flight,
and he'll go on a computer.
for a couple minutes, he won't
touch the food, and he'll go back
to bed. So he
would get his food, and I'd get mine, I'd eat mine,
pick it his, and then
one day on a trip back, if you have to
hunt this blog down, I blew
a fart next to him on a fucking plane
in first class
that smelled like 10 dead bodies, and it was
one of those hot farts, and he came
out of a coma. It was that bad
that he woke up out of a coma
still looking at me all weird.
You know when people look at you when they were in a deep sleep,
and they smell so like it must have gone into his soul
and he was looking around and when he looked on the screen
Antonio Bandaris was dancing with a bunch of black kids in Harlem
some movie he made and the next day Rogan wrote on a blog
fucking Diaz needs to go see a doctor
he farted he woke me up and when I went to look
oh my God he goes I went to look and it was Antonio
Bandaris dancing with a bunch of fucking urban kids
and some shit I was dying after
what do you normally do like if you have
a long flight
like say you have a 10 hour
11 hour flight I've never had those
I can't handle that shit I'll jump out of a
fucking plane
so if you had to fly from New York to Hawaii
what would you do stop in L.A. first
I would break it up
you know I'd break it up a little bit
I don't want to be in a fucking plan for 11
fucking hours so I'd go to L.A
break it up a little bit maybe get something to
eat at the airport
go outside smoke a half a number
breathe a little bit and go back in and get on the
flight.
Go back to
security.
Yeah, two hours.
Two hour delay is perfect.
I don't give a fuck.
That back is going to hurt
anyway.
So you better walk around
the airport for two hours,
get something to eat.
They've got a couple good places
to eat at LAX.
Then you shoot to Hawaii.
On the flight to Hawaii,
though, that's when you put the Mickey
in the thing.
If you got roofies,
every man for himself.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you want to sleep,
that last six gets on you.
You could read.
I could watch two episodes
of Narco.
two wires
and look through my emails and shit
for a little while,
maybe switch the news on the plane,
and then that's it.
I'm ready to get the fuck off the plane.
Yeah.
I time it in my head.
So I go to L.A.,
I get off, I walk around,
take a piss, maybe buy a Disney shirt.
I'm not leaving the airport.
I'm not leaving the fucking airport.
That's not going to happen.
And then I get back on the plane.
Why not?
Why wouldn't you?
In today's LA?
In today's LA? No.
In today's LA, no.
Or I would land in Vegas for a detour
and go Vegas to Hawaii
and get a nice steak,
stretch out. All you need is a two-hour stretch out.
I want to get to Hawaii and get this party started.
Right.
So I need to stretch out, maybe a cup of wonton soup,
get back on the plane, and that's when you dose that motherfucker.
That's when you give that Indian that gin.
You know what I'm saying?
We're going deep for fucking...
Because I was going to take my family to Hawaii.
Everybody goes to Hawaii.
But when I went out line, it was six hours,
or five and a half hours from California.
From L.A., yeah.
And I'm like, I'm not going through this shit.
I'd rather go to New York anyway.
I've got to go down there and get a fucking attack by a shark.
Yeah.
But when are you going?
I've done that flight a few times.
It's a great flight, but I'd rather get off and stretch my back.
I've done it from New York to Hawaii.
Okay, straight?
Straight.
11?
11, yeah, about 11.
Yeah, 11 hours and 15 minutes.
You cocktail?
Yeah, yeah.
A couple cocktail.
Yeah, see, I don't cocktails.
So it would be horrible for me to, you know, like if I'd cocktail, it would be, I
could see me fucking lighten everybody else.
You got to do it in first class.
You got to have the pod.
You got to lay down.
I mean, you.
No, I definitely would take a jet blue, whatever that.
That's what I would do.
That's the other thing.
If you're flying from New York, there's not that many flights that fly out there.
I think there's only United and Hawaiian Airlines that go direct.
There are few other ones that do stops, multiple stops.
But then, you know, that jumps it up to like 16 echoes.
I got to ask you one thing.
When, you know, it's 2002 to 2008.
We're talking about 2022.
and I know that we have different feelings for work we've done.
How you felt about something when you went on a set in 2005
is completely different in 2022.
You look at that as a different movie.
Maybe it was a growing,
when you look back at your work in the wire,
what do you say to yourself?
I don't look at my work.
I think of the experience.
I think of the people that I met,
the relationships that I,
that I still hold to today.
I cherish those.
I'm grateful for those.
The work, I don't know.
I don't know.
I really...
Work was beautiful.
From what I've seen already,
the work is beautiful.
I could see how...
I know that if anybody would go on that show
for five years,
whatever you think you walked in there,
you walk out a different fucking soldier.
And, you know, you got to...
What's that expression?
You got to sharpen with metal
if you want to be metal.
That show was as metal as it gets.
I don't think there was a weak link.
I'm looking now for a weak link, and I can't find it.
The kid that sells the Coke, his little African-American partner,
everybody is fucking strong.
Like, everybody...
It gets richer.
Okay.
Listen, we're going to have you back in a couple weeks.
Yeah, especially this season, I think you're going to find very interesting.
only because of your past, because of places you have traveled,
things that are trying to be implemented in this season.
I don't want to give anything away.
No, no, I'm looking forward to you.
I really, really think you're going to dig the season,
and I know for a fact, season one and season four are my favorites.
Okay.
I can tell you that.
Maybe not by seeing it, but by work, my work experience.
Those seasons.
And I almost have like a photograph.
Like because I'm dyslexic, I read things and I understand them very clear because I read them slow and I have to read them multiple times.
But I remember.
I remember the storylines.
I remember the A story, the B storyline, the C story.
I remember all that.
You could say episode for this one.
You just have to tell me what was going.
on and I could tell you what was it going on in the episode even though I didn't see it
I will watch three and four episodes and I'm going to make notes season three and four
I'll make some notes and next time you come on great characters getting oh my God from what
you're saying from what I've seen great characters get oh wait you you're in store for some
really good ones if you know anything about me I love this type of shit I love watching that
type of show from A to Z.
It's as interesting for me as anything I've ever watched.
A lot of this comes from, you know,
if you ever went on the internet and I don't know,
I don't know, but if you look at Simon's treatment for this, right?
if you look at what he had to write in order to sell the show, it's so intricate.
It's online?
It's online.
So, yeah, you can see it.
And it's so detailed.
And when you watch the show and you read that, it pretty much mirrors itself.
I mean, there's a few variations here and there, but pretty much solid.
But the realness and the authenticity that the show has also comes from the fact that David Simon was an investigative reporter for the Baltimore son.
He was in the streets.
He talked to these guys.
He knew these guys.
He knew the ins and and outs.
Ed Burns, another producer, writer, was a homicide detective for 25 years.
Also, a teacher.
ex-military guy
you know
so the foundation for this show
was all there you know
and all that realism
and all that stuff that you talk about
and everybody else talks about
is because the people that were
who
created this show
started off with a really solid
and truthful foundation
and they just
built from that. You could tell now that you're telling me who the producers are. These are all real
people. Some of these people are real people. Clay David, these are real people. Bunk is a real
cop that he knew. You know, a lot of these, a lot of these characters are based off of, I'm sure
there are certain liberties, but based off of people through his experience as being an investigator.
or Ed Burns, you know, being a homicide cop.
It really was in Avon Barksdale.
That's a great name.
It really wasn't Yvonne Barksdale.
Avon Barksdale.
Yeah.
Wood Harris, another great actor on the show.
Yes, he very good.
Another good actor.
Been around forever, too.
Forever.
Forever.
Ever.
Him and his brother, Steve.
Great actors.
What is amazing in the show?
So under the radar, just so there, but so consistent.
He's so good.
I even like the sister, his sister that he has to,
that her son supposedly killed himself in jail,
that she plays like the sister, she goes to see.
That's another great character.
Oh, my God.
Larry Gildier, DeAngelo.
The Angelo, just tremendous.
The girl he met.
And the stripper that.
Did he angel go die yet?
Yes, he, they iced him.
You know why DeAngelo died?
Why?
Because he represented hope.
That's fucking crazy.
Okay.
You're back in a few weeks.
I can torch you come back.
Yeah.
What do you got going on?
Anything?
I might have to hop on an 11-hour flight.
Okay.
How soon?
But I got them.
I worked on a film called Reptile.
That should be coming out for Netflix.
next year.
But other than that, you know, just trying to stay busy,
trying to stay creative, you know.
Mom, good, everybody good?
As good as she could possibly be, you know, she's hanging in there.
Well, my heart goes out to you and your family.
I love you at death.
And let's be in touch.
I love that you came on today to talk about this.
I'm fucking fired up.
I'm fired up about it.
It's okay.
It's Sunday.
got somebody else turning the sauce today okay well let me take a picture of it
when i will but i told when i told my daughter she asked me before she left who's going to be on
the podcast so she goes let me see him i go you just saw him you know and i don't she came down
and watched for a little while so all your pictures came up on uh yahoo but i clicked
the one from fat tony she's like jesus what happened i go that's makeup mercy you know we started
talking.
And then, in the middle of all this,
you know what my fucking daughter said?
He goes, I know him.
He's the guy that built the fucking house outside,
the tree house.
Because I called it down here,
the show of the tree house.
That's how we were,
we've been looking for this for the dog.
I remember.
Yeah, yeah.
And she's like,
and me and my wife were like,
you see why you don't say shit around this little cock-sucket?
Because dog, she remembers shit.
She's like,
he had the tree.
tree house. I'm like, holy
fuck. Yeah. So
it's a small world. Happy New Year.
You guys gotta come up, man. Yeah.
You know, you're a hopskip jumping away, man.
You know, you gotta come up.
I love to come up and see you, brother. Do something
in this city. I have not even been there except
working and going
to a movie. I haven't done dick there.
They say to stay away from midtown,
but everything else is cool.
Oh, I'm in Westchester, so. Perfect.
That's even better. I'm 914 representing.
I'm through the tap and see.
Z. You're in, you're in,
uh,
Yeah, I'm real close.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm a little close.
Take the pal of saves.
Perfect.
I love you.
Enjoy your sauce today.
I will.
All right, brother.
Thank you.
All right, my friend.
Be well.
Two weeks, three weeks.
Okay.
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