The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #160 | JON BERNTHAL | UNCLE JOEY'S JOINT with JOEY DIAZ

Episode Date: May 4, 2022

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You don't even know why you're jumping up and down. You don't even like Mexicans and you're jumping up and down. Fucking tequila, fucking bean dip and farts. You fucking love it. My main man is in here today, John Berthall on a Wednesday. What's going on? To get this fucking party started. We talk the podcast.

We'll talk we own the night. We'll talk in generalities. What's going on, brother? It's great to see you, man. It's great to be here with you in Jersey in your home, man. South fucking Jersey. It's beautiful, man. Central Jersey.

Good to see you, man. Now you know what's going on with you. Yeah, I'm happy for you. I love seeing you out here talking to your wife. seeing how great your daughter's doing out here, how much you love this community, how much the community loves you, it's great. I fucking love it.

I love it down here, you know? I can tell. I felt bad this morning because I had to go, I'd go to a health food store. Yeah. That guy's had that health food store for 30 fucking years. Wow. So you can go to him with any question.

Like, I want a bag of heroin. Let me call my friend, you know. I was just in there. I had to go get stuff from my knees. Yeah, like, a stuff to strengthen your tendons. Stuff you put in or stuff you write. rub on it. Stuff you put in water in the morning,

so I take it with my vitamins in the morning. It's like glucamine, mixed with something else and something else. It works? Fuck, yeah. I don't have pain in my left knee at all, but I went there this morning, and some salesman was there when I walked in. He's like telling the guy,

I fucking, this shit don't work. The guy's missing teeth. He's built fucked up. He takes craton every day. He lives on craton. Whatever the fuck that is. Creatine. Craton.

Cratum. Cratum. Yeah. Cratum? Yeah. I don't know what the fuck. It's some green shit. Yeah.

But he lost his teeth. Fucking. Dog. Yeah. Besides that, he's like a fucking pillar of fucking hell. This guy has eaten everything at that. When you go in there and you go, I want to try that. He'll go, don't do it.

I did that for a while and it didn't work out for me. Like, he's tried everything in there. Wow. Wow. Everything. When I was sick, when I was sick, I went in there and I go, this was going out. I mean, he gave me crayon. Wow, well.

And it's like red crayon. It's like a Japanese herb or something like that that they grind up. and it's supposed to be illegal. Huh. Right? But I guess everybody in this area is heavy on the crate. Is that right? Is that right?

You get juice the night before and you put like four tablespoons in and you put it in your refrigerator and when you wake up in the morning you drink it and it fucking sets you out for the day and they have a red, like a green hulk is good like the red dragon. You do it. Anything red is to relax. But that's not just for the knees.

That's for general. No, no. This is for everything. This is to get high, I think. Did you? Did you ever do like the Thai boxing liniment on the knees? Have you ever done that? No.

That is the fucking shit. Do you know in the movie you and I, the first movie you and I did together in fucking New Orleans, Sylvester Stallone, he fucking went. My son had just been born. My son Bill had just been born. He was stuck at the NICU, right? Because he was super fucking early. So I go down there for rehearsal and I fly home to go meet my son.

Literally like meet my son for the first time at my house. And when I land in the airport at LAX, I get a call from my agents. They said, Sly wants you back in New Orleans for boxing rehearsal. I'm fucking boxing rehearsal. Because remember, I did the part, but then I also did young De Niro because they found I had to box a little bit, whatever. So I'm like, I go to meet my kid. Like, what are I going to go box with Sylvester Stallone?

And they, like, they need you back there. So I get back on the fucking plane and I go to this boxing rehearsal. And he's in the ring with De Niro. And he's kind of like, you know, like all the executives are kind of watching him. and he's kind of holding court doing his thing. And I walk in and goes, yo, you're next. You know, and I'm like, all right.

So like, you know, I just started hitting the bag, whatever. And then they finished the rehearsal. He fucking walks out of the ring. And I came back for no fucking reason, right? And I'm like, well, look, what am I doing here? And then I met this kid, Greg Rementers, now this huge stunt guy. He was playing the young Stallone.

So we were like, hey, man, we're here. You want to just go in the ring, get a few rounds of sparring here. He said, cool. So I go up into the ring. And this woman comes up. And she comes to the ring. She goes, hey, I just went into your bag.

You have that Thai boxing liniment. And Sly really loves that boxing liniment. So I went into your bag and I took it. I'm going to go rub it on his back. And I'm like, you went into my bag and took my fucking liniment? You know what I mean? That liniment's really fucking hard to get. But I got bad knees too.

And it's great for a butt. Like if you're going to move, it just makes everything numb. You know what I mean? So I go, all right, fine. Like, don't fucking rub it on his back. Like, I came here for no reason. I'm sparring with Greg. And now, like, he's getting all my boxing liniment on his bag.

So the fucking sparring is done. About 45 minutes later, he comes out. He's been, you know, massage. He's showered. He comes out in this, like, beautiful fucking suit and a top hat. You know what I mean? He walks out. I go, yo, I'll see you later.

You know, he's walking out. She comes back over. She goes, hey, I just want to let you know. Sly's just going to go ahead and hang on to that boxing liniment. And I'm like, motherfucker. And I like ran out after him. I had my stuff, my gloves on, my mouth. I go, Slice.

Like, what's going on? He's like, yo. And I'm like, hey, look, man. Like, where I'm from, if you're going to borrow something from someone you know normally you ask you know permission first like you ask you know he's like yo i let you box in my gym i was hey look man like you made me come down you're like you know i'm like what do you you know and and he's like look i don't need the liniment you hang on to i was like no keep the fucking linemit you know but i'm like but you know and we i thought for sure i was going to get

fired after that you know what i mean and we it made us start off on such a wrong fucking path you know what i mean and i'll that's all i think about with that fucking box it's the greatest shit on her. But then Sly did become super fucking nice to me. He's a great guy and all that. But yeah, that's what I thought of when you talked about your bad knees. Now, speaking of Thai fucking heater, that vitamin guy also told me about a Thailand

Viagra. That your dick is hard for three days, that they take it in Thailand on a Friday. And it's fucking rocks to Sunday. You know, when I saw his missing teeth, I was like, I don't know. That sounds interesting. But I don't know. I don't know. You got missing teeth, and I don't want to fucking, you know, take the Thai pills and then I got a hard on for fucking three days. I don't even know who to stick it in.

As you see, my wife is a Christian. She don't play that shit. So, you know, when I got married, my freaky days were done. They're done. Just like done. So. Yeah. But no, I like the area.

I needed this. You know, when people were calling me saying, why are you moving there? Nobody really understood. Like, I just wanted it. It was time for me to be around my people. Yeah, yeah. Like, it was time to me, you know, even though I don't see my friends as much as I, like the, I know they're that.

You know, when we moved out of LA, it was the same thing. But like, honestly, man, most important, like sitting down with her and seeing how happy she is and how much it means to her to have community and understood the, look, everybody wants to shit on L.A. But the truth is, there's trappings of L.A. And if you're trying to raise a family there, it's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of fake nonsense there. And I think that that's really hard.

You don't want to raise kids in that environment. And it was great to see how happy she is. And it's great to see how much your daughter's thriving. That's like that's what we're on this earth to do, man. I'm not, I don't have a bad thing to say about LA. LA served the purpose for me. That's right. And I know, listen, I thought about moving to different places,

Northern California. I thought about moving to Reno. Yes, what she said. I thought about going back to Colorado, like towards telly ride. Yeah. But then the pandemic came. Yeah. And the pandemic came with just like this weird feeling to it.

Yeah. It just wasn't, it's like right now, you know, I was, we were talking Monday about the things you never want to think about. You never want to, when you're down 200,000, like when you owe 200,000, and you say to yourself, how am I going to pay this, that? And you go, I'm never going to pay it. I don't even want to think about it.

It's the same thing right now. I think America, I think the world right now, we're not in a good place. I agree. You know, between inflation, the numbers are going back up, all this year, we're not in a good place, and we have a war going on with a guy that anything could happen. And if you think about how this is going to end,

it's the same thing. is on $200,000. You don't want to think about it. There's so many things you can say. There's so many variables right now, you know. That's right. And every one of those arguments, sorry to interrupt you, but every one of those sort of topics is being taken over by folks

that just want to get you on their side or the other side, that just want to make it so, hey, I'm with these, these guys are these guys, they just want to wave their fucking flags from the sidelines. And that makes it so you never actually face the issues. You're never actually talking to people of real experience in the fucking issues. We're talking to the wrong fucking people. The wrong people got the mic.

You know, I don't know the issues. I just have, I go by feeling. Yeah. And I go by the direction the wind is going, blown. I mean, I think this is the calm before the storm. Yeah. For some reason, I just, we were talking on Monday about, you know, how we're worried about our children. That's right.

What world are our children going to go into? You know, all I ever wanted was to have a child with this woman. And now are our children going to be able to buy a house? Yeah, yeah. Are our children going to be able to have the same thing? things we had. Who the fuck knows? But this is what, you know, you have to think about or not think about.

Yeah. And move on. But it's a different world right now. It's a different world. But when you've got kids, it is, you know, really loving, really understanding what it's like to love somebody more than you love yourself and not give a fuck what happens to you, but you just want to throw down for that kid. The only reason you're on this earth is for that kid.

And it's crazy to actually face the fact that, like, you might be leaving them a world that's worse off than you came in. You think about all. the things you had as a kid. You're like, wow, my kid, I don't, they can't really experience that. You know, like, I don't know. And I'm sure, like, you know, I was walking through New York, you know, I'm doing down, you know, down here for press.

And I was thinking about, man, you imagine New York in the 70s and the 80, you know, you always think how much better was. And I remember what it was like 10 years ago, 20 years ago, the fucking energy, the palpability of anything could happen at any fucking moment. And just how electric that was. And there was that, that feeling, you know, if you can. can make it here. You can fucking make it any. I don't care what you do, but I remember pounding the fucking pavement as an actor thinking I didn't have a fucking hope in the world, but I just

keep on grinding, keep on pounding. The electricity fueled me. But now you're like, you see it and you're like, wow, like what are these kids coming up seeing? You know, like everyone's on their fucking phones. But, you know, then again, maybe you're just like, hey, look, I'm just an old fuck like every other miserable fuck from every other generation who thinks that like, you know, kids today don't know anything and they're missing out on anything. And I don't, and I I don't know if that's just part about life and getting older. I don't want to be that old fuck. Me neither.

You don't ever want to. My day. And the electricity 10, 20 years ago in New York, that shit ain't. Like, I was out last night in New York. It's cool, but that ain't what it was fucking 10, 20 years ago. No, and you should have had it in the 80s. I couldn't only imagine. When it was like a paradise to go over there, you know, living here.

Especially where I lived. I lived eight minutes from the city. Right. So it was dessert. Right. Right. It was always dessert, right? We did this in Jersey.

Can you imagine what we're going to do in New York at 3 a.m.? Let's just go over there, get a case of B, and see where the fucking, where the night takes us. You know, New York was a fucking great place. I'm, like, I'm too old, but I wish I could have done a play. Yeah. I can put all that time you have done to play and not worry about money and time. You could still do that.

You know, bro, I got a fucking, my agent fucking reached out to me last. You're not going to believe this. She goes, I sent this department all my actors, and the only one they wanted to see was you. Fuck you. It's to go up to Yale on Monday. To Yale rep? To Yale, the college, I guess.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do a table read into David Geffen arena or something. That's Yale where it's a great theater. No shit. Go fucking do that. You know, I'm going to do it next time. Joe, you would crush theater. And I'm telling you, man, that is where the big boys go, man.

Fuck all this on-camera shit. I mean, it's like great, we do it whatever. No second takes, no nothing. Like, think with you and your background what you're able to do, like no other comic in the world. You on stage and your acting ability, it would be a fucking revolution. I would love to do. I would love to do a play with you.

I always want, like I'm thinking, I've been talking to Vince Pestor, pussy. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. The one about the butcher. Oh, no, no, Requiem for a Dream. Requiem for a Dream. First, and then the one about the butcher,

the ugly butcher that falls in love with the good look chick played by Ernest Borgnan. We always read it in acting class. I forget what the fucking Sam or something like that. Who the fuck knows? No, no, it's not Sweeney. Fucking Todd. Do I look like Sweeney Todd

to you? But I watch it. But I always felt like I always felt, when you're a stand-up you feel very insecure on a set. Sure. But then again, you know I got an audition the other day and I looked at, you know, you always look at shit. And I could tell by reading the

auditioned that it was a fucking hand job. It gave you too much information. And then I saw who's in the movie, who cast it themselves in the movie already. It's a husband and wife team. His rating on IMDB is 400,000 and Huss is like

600,000. So they want me to read for this movie. I go, and my wife was looking at the phone. I go, it says sag scale, but trust me, there's a by the way there. You can tell. Just I'm by the extended to you. And sure enough, on the bottom, she goes, yeah, it's still waiting For SAG after approved, I go, fuck them.

Because they just want to... So when you're in a movie, you have a lot of those things. You have a lot of people that just cast themselves or whatever. But I think in theater, those are a high-level fucking people. Especially at a place like that, too. Especially, you know, so you kind of get... But this was Yale, they were going to give me $210. Yeah.

Yeah, there's no money. No money in it. I was taking a train out of Penn Station, but then taking an Uber home from Yale. That $210 is for that Uber. A New Haven, Connecticut or something like that. Yeah, straight up. Holy shit. Yeah.

So they just wanted me to do the table read. So next time they do contact me, I will go up there. Yeah, I think you should. I would love to. That's great. But I don't know if I could do those 80-hour fucking rehearsals, man. But you know what? Like it's, I don't know, rehearsal's fucking heaven.

It's fucking heaven. It's where you can try anything. That's how you grow. You know, it's like getting, it's like getting a lot of time to work on your set, but with other people. You know what I mean? With other people inspiring you and challenging you and chant. There's nothing in the world like rehearsal. I fucking live for it.

Anything can happen in rehearsal. You're there to take risk. You're there to fail. You're there to fuck up. Like when else you get to do that as an artist? Like you, it's like, look, I'm sure you have your own way of working on what you work on. And you have your own method for your comedy, right? But for an actor, it's like we got to like carve out our fucking time to put our work in.

But this is determined set, you know, eight, nine, ten hour days where everyone's got to fucking be there. You've got to be on stage and everyone's throwing down. So it's like think about the shit you can discover and how you can grow. We don't get that. It's like playing baseball, right? Like you fucking play baseball. You can work. You can hit off a tee.

You know what I mean? If you don't have anybody else, what you can throw a ball against a fucking tree, right? You can like stretch. You can work out. But in order to play the game, you got to have a bunch of other people with all the equipment, with the field, with the ball. They got to be willing to play. They're all going to be allowed to be there at the same time.

That's that you get better at baseball. You go to practice. The way you get better as an actor is you go to play rehearsal. You don't do it by sitting. alone in your fucking living room saying the lines to a mirror you know you don't say it by like the 10 seconds you get between action and cut on a film set you know you're driving in the car you're saying the lines over and over what what what fucking practice is that you know what I mean rehearsal is fucking where you I love it I love all that shit I like when they block on a movie

yeah yeah I love all that I've always loved that doing that for eight hours dog I gotta tell you a funny story I don't think I told you so we do the table read yeah raised there yeah I respect the shit out of Ray Leona. You know, I love Ray Leona. I say, how you doing? I keep it to a minimum. He's from Union, New Jersey, up the corner here. So I keep it to a minimum.

I don't see Ray for like two weeks, and we're shooting, and all of a sudden Ray shows up, you know? It's like five in the morning. I'm in my trailer smoking dope, and I finish my joint. You know, I go to makeup, and there's Ray next to me. I don't say good morning. How are you doing ladies, good? And also, I'm on the way out, I go, Ray,

not for nothing. If you want to rehearse the lines, let me know. Do you know this motherfucker didn't even answer me? He heard you? Oh, yeah. He heard me loud and clear. And he just looked over me and he just fucking turned his face.

I'm like, motherfucker, right? So I'm not going to say none of this motherfucker. Now we get into the scene. It's a table and Satriali's and shit. And he's sitting there at the end. And I'm sitting right next to him. so I got to live all.

I don't say a word. So first line comes up. Hopalong, Keseech. Hey, who are you talking to about? And then he starts with his Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin joke. And he's fucking it up. Like he can't. We could talk about this now.

I remember, yeah. This was like the first day he was in there, he's spitting food. He's trying to chew. He's biting food with the thing in it. Dave fucking, what's his name leaves? God bless him, you know, whatever. is David Chase. He fucking couldn't take it no more.

He just, because the fucking girl came over 20 times, Ray. Can you imagine coming over to him? Oh, my God. No, no. She came over 20 times. Ray, the line is done. He's like wiping his face and shit.

You're like, hey, Ray, you want to rehearse those lines? Yeah, no, I didn't say that. So all of a sudden, again, action. Ray fucks up the line. I can't take it no more. I go, Ray, maybe you should have fucking read those lines. He just looked at me like you He didn't like me that

He didn't even talk to me after that Ray you should have fucking rehearsed those lines You know He got so angry he just left Did you hear about that? He just left We shot that scene without him I heard that was a couple of times

He had to put like somebody there and shot that scene Without him so he's Ray Leota He's the start of a fucking movie What are he going to do You know he's having a bad day So I don't say nothing I'm dying a laugh I'm dying to laugh

He's spitting food John is going crazy the guy that's playing Sylvia, he's like, what the fuck is going on over there? This is going on for three fucking hours, four hours. Finally, Ray leaves. He just left.

Nobody said nothing. I think, honestly, people were like, thank God. Thank God he laughed because he just didn't have it together. Read those lines off camera. I did not want to laugh. It's my first time with these people. I don't want to laugh and I don't want to be an ass.

I'm saying nothing about it. I'm just sitting there and from time to time giggling by myself. And then at one point we're sitting there, it's got to be three in the fucking morning. We're there from six in the morning. And fucking, John McGarrow looks at us as like six of us,

and he goes, what the fuck was going on with Ray today? Doug, we fucking lost it. Because everybody was waiting for somebody to say what the fuck was going. Everybody lost it. And then we pack up rap. We all get in the van.

We're shooting back to the city. We're sitting there, we're tired, and out of nowhere, the makeup lady goes, can I ask you guys a question? what was going on with Ray Leone today? And this time the fucking driver of the car, the teamster, was like, he busted out because he's like, dog, I was listening to it. What the fuck was going on in that?

You know, he was just having it. But then, like, I didn't see Ray. I didn't see him at all, maybe one other day. And then I went to see the movie. And you see him in prison, you're like, oh, fuck. He's a fucking killer. He's a fucking killer. That's a 30 fucking years of acting.

That's right. You know who I flew out here with, man, and wanted me to say hello. It's Brendan Scheld, man. What a fucking unbelievable guy here. I was literally listening to him on Rogan. And then I'm fucking on the plane. And he says, hey, man, he says hello to me. He's sitting like almost right next to me on the plane.

I'm fucking listening to you. And we start talking about kids. And, you know, his kids are in jiu-jitsu too. And just, man, he is such a fucking good guy. Like, such a good guy. He wanted me to send you love. And he's brilliant. I'm going to hit him later because I know he's in the city.

I'm going to hit him later. Yeah. It's crazy because when he hit me yesterday, whatever, he hit me on Instagram. I hit him back and I'll call you tonight or something. He was going to be in town until Wednesday and Thursday. Yeah, something like that. And I started thinking about Brendan. And I started thinking about what Brendan's gone through in his life,

how he wasn't that good of a fighter. People made fun of him. And then, you know, Rogan talked him out of fighting, which is a big step as a friend to tell somebody that. And this kid jumped into comedy. with both hands. Dude. And, you know, years ago,

I did something with Joe in Atlanta, and he was there. And he kept looking at me. He was a fighter that. I'm on stage doing stand-up, and every time I look in the audience, fucking Brendan Sharp is like, looking at me with like a weird look.

So after the show, Rogan goes, man, Brendan Sharp wants to say hello, come back and talk to you. I don't want to talk to that, motherfucker. I swear to God, I'm like, don't bring him back here. Because that dude don't like me. And he was watching comedy

with a weird look on his face. I don't want him back here. And Rogan's like, okay, Joey, I won't bring him back. And then I met him. And I realized that he was a student. That's it. What a beautiful, humble guy. He was a student.

He was watching me like fucking hanging on to the words. It's embarrassing when you see somebody do that. They're either hating on you or they're fucking going, what the fuck is this guy saying? So years later, when I met him, we'd had that conversation. He's like, no, you were doing a joke about it. something. I was thinking to myself,

how are you getting this out of your mouth? Aren't you ashamed or embarrassed or something? So he reveres you, man. I see what he's doing now. Brilliant. And I give him the thick boy stuff, the special he produced, direct of everything himself.

You know what? And people chop his legs off. Yeah. Like in any society. Like in any society. I mean, people chop his legs off all the time. But I've spoken to him.

Because they're scared. He's different. And that's what we were talking. Like when I came in acting, I came in from sports. It was like, you know, it's very different love. But like, people saw me, they're like, this guy can't fucking do this fucking. And like, man, it's so, it's like, but, you know, he's his strength and his resilience. But like to come through it on the other end and just be so kind, he's like such a kind guy.

He's got a heart of gold. It is a fucking crazy thing for all the people that enjoy putting Brendan down and cracking stupid jokes and saying he's not funny. The people who do that had never done anything in their life and have never faced adversity like this guy. If I was Brendan Sharp With all the hate he's gotten I would have quit by now But this motherfucker kept going Started thick boy industries

He's always working And he keeps fucking swinging So for you motherfuckers that don't think Brendan's funny today Give him a couple years You're gonna be eating your fucking words And the people that are putting them down Are people who've never done anything

That's right Never mind quit being a fighter And then going into comedy One of the hardest fucking things you could do Ever, ever And you gotta give the guy credit. He's remained a sweetheart of a guy. I'm going to see Brian this

weekend. I'm going to hook up with Brian at the Stress Factory this weekend. Do some shows with him. He's trying to fucking do some videos and stuff. We're going to go on and eat. I'm going to take him to fucking either the stage. New Bruns have got some good food too. Yeah, I bet. I bet. They got Steakhouse

85. That'll knock you into a different world. And they got a place called the stage. You get the 7-ounce Y-U beef. They cook it on the stone with some whipped potatoes and shit. I send the chef a bag of of refus, everybody knows were fucking solid. Oh, yeah. You have no fucking

idea. But Brendan, you know, it's like, I love underdogs. That's it. I've always loved underdogs. I'm an underdog. I always want to be getting points. That's it. Give me the points. I don't give a fuck. I'll take them. I'll fucking rock your world. I'll rock your fucking world. So, give me the points. I don't

give a fuck. That's what we thrive on. We thrive on. People going, you're not going to do this. Okay, watch my fucking smoke. I may not do it. I may not do a perfectly, but I'm going to do it. That's right. Okay? That's right.

And if I could do it once, I could do it again and again and again until I fucking get it. And then you're going to reach back and you've got to try to lift up and support anybody else who has that same sort of mentality and that dude's going through that same kind of thing because your heart's been through it. You say, hey, look, I see you, man. I believe in you. And you thought, that's what we connected on in the plane too, like that and just being being dads.

But I'm just real taking with that guy, man. You see something else. Solid fucking dude. You know, and it's like he came from, I mean, this kid, did you see the video from crying? Did you see that video? And he's like just, he's got a heart to go. That's right.

All those guys. You know, what was done in comedy a couple of years ago was a fucking nightmare because those guys are all sweethearts. Krista Lee is a sweetheart. Brian's a sweetheart. Fucking Brendan is it like a student. Brendan used to call and ask stupid questions

and I go, but on the flip side. And I know you've seen this. How many people have come up to you and said, John, I would. want to do what you're doing. All I ever want to be was an actor. You know, I do this, I do that, but I can't put the pieces together. But you know they're bullshit in you.

Yeah, yeah. They just want a fucking hitch on your trailer. Yeah, yeah. But then you see people who are savages on their own, and you'll do anything for those people. You'll go, you know what, man, whatever you want. Because I see what you're doing. Yeah. And whatever you're doing, I know that you want that ship, and I know you want that Porsche.

It's not in your house today. That's right. But keep doing what you're doing. You'll have it in two years. There you go. Forget the monetary. Fuck all that. Forget the monetary.

Love doing it. It's what you want to do. That's why I didn't want to do stand-up for a year. Because I wasn't in love with it anymore, guys. That's a hard decision. First off, every time I was doing stand-up for the last year, I felt like a gay man. What does that mean?

What am I trying to say? I'm doing something I don't want to do. Like, I'm doing something. It was like if I... You ever see that like... You ever see in L.A. There's people. You ever see in L.A.

You ever hear, like, I was at a restaurant one night, and I heard a guy, and I'm thinking to myself, and I love gay men. Yeah. I was thinking to myself, they ain't nobody is gay. Can be this gay. Nobody could be this fucking gay.

Only in L.A. Could somebody move to L.A.? Become gay. And then when they move out of L.A., they switch back to being fucking, you know, Anne Haich, whatever he did, Donnie Brasco's wife. A bunch of people just happened to be gay in L.A.

when they get there. Then 10 years later, you look at Facebook, they got a family. No more gay. What happened? They became gay to be part of the fucking game. And I hate to say this, but it's true. So they could belong to something.

They can just go belong to that. And they'll take it in the ass. Like, what's the difference? You know, I fuck chick. Some guy fingered me in the ass. What's a dick in the ass at this point? I'll do it for three, four years just to get some work and hang out and have friends and get invited to parties.

And then one day when nobody wants me as an act and I'm a failure because I am. I'll fucking move back to Florida, find a woman. What I'm trying to say is that it's like me trying to fake gay. Like, I just didn't want to do comedy no more. I just didn't. It wasn't in my realm no more. Recently, I'm falling in love with it again.

Like, I watched a Rodney special the other night. Yeah. You know, I watched the Kennison special the other night. That's what I wanted. I couldn't even watch a special. The only special I watched was Ali Wong's new special. That was the only one. and she inspired me a little bit,

but now I wanted to fall in love with it again. If you can't do comedy for free, you're not going to do it. Yeah. You're not going to do it. You know, so it's like when you did the small machine movie. Small engine repair, yeah. Small engine repair. That was a labor of love.

That's it. You didn't do it for the money. You did it because you believed in the project. That's how you know you like what you do. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's kind of, that's kind of for better or for worse. That's the whole thing with me. I mean, I think the success of it is just,

being invited back to come play again, you know what I mean? It's like that's, that's, that's what you, that's what you're aiming for. So I'd be lost as fuck without it. Now, I see that you put a podcast out that. I told Mike, me and Mike have discussed it on the show and off camera. I love it. It's a video podcast. And we have videos here. You know, we have a video and an audio. You did a video podcast that's just a little bit more real. And we were talking about this before. It's shot in the winning time. I like it. I like how it's shot. I like all the angles you got.

I like that nobody's neat. You got a backwards hat on some days. You're fucked up some days. You're not trying to be Johnny Carson. You're just trying to get the information out to inform people. What made you come up with this fucking idea? I mean, look, it's not, it's just not, honestly, Joey, it's not about me. I got, I got no real desire to, you know, put myself out there anymore.

And if I'm being dead honest about it, I mean, the guys that I really respect, that, you know, really do what I do. And actors, you know, they, I think putting less of yourself out there is probably better. And the more people kind of get to know who I am, who John Berthal is, the less they're going to believe me as a doctor or as the punisher or as a fucking baseball player, whatever it is. And there's been this whole thing, you know, among actors that they always say, you know, maintain your mystery and all that shit. And, look, I, I, you know, for me, it really kind of came down to me just sort of, being kind of like disgusted with discourse in in in in the country i just kind of got to a point as a dad and as an american where i was just like you you can't have there's there's no room

to to have a discussion anymore without having an agenda without saying i'm on this side or this side and and i feel like so many of the kind of major issues of the day are being led by people who have no experience with those issues it's some fucking celebrity or pundit or so-called expert. But, you know, for me, I just know I've been, I've been like super fucking blessed, man, by both the life I've led and the career that I've had that I've gotten to really know and have real relationships with people who have really walk the walk. So, you know, the folks on my show are, you know, they're cops, their special forces, soldiers, their surgeons, their coaches, their teachers, their civil rights lawyers,

all kinds of political agendas, all kinds of races and religions and sexual orientate, whatever the fuck they are. The only criteria is they're real. They actually walk to walk. They got the respect to their community. They got the respect to the people they work with.

They've really done the things that they're talking about. What I find is people who have really walked in those valleys and really have boots on the fucking ground of that shit, they go into life with empathy. They go into life like understanding folks, on the quote unquote other side.

You know, look, man, I mean, we talk about policing with this new show. Look, man, I'm sure, I'm sure sometime in your life you've been beaten up by a cop. I sure has fucking been beaten up by a cop. And look, that being said, some of my best friends in the world are cops. I don't fucking, I've also experienced unbelievable, sublime generosity and kindness from cops. Me too. I've been protected by cops. Me too.

And like the fact is, in this country, you know, for some reason now, we've, confused, you know, being completely fucking steadfast in your views, completely unchanging. It's my way or the highway as being patriotic or strong or tough. Where to me, there's nothing more cowardly. There's nothing more un-American than saying it's my way or the highway. This country's about fucking sitting down with people that might think differently than you and having a fucking beer and being like, hey man, you might teach me something. I might teach you something. We still love our kids. We still love our sports. We still and we can go to it. And you know what, man, like push comes to shut.

We will fight together as Americans to preserve this country. It's the greatest country on fucking earth. And I think we've become so divided. You know, I'll tell you, you know, one of the things on the show that I'm most excited about is in a few cases. And folks in Shreveport, folks in South Central Los Angeles, in D.C. and Baltimore, I've had guys come on who are either active or ex-gang members who have done, you know, decades in prison. some of them. Some of them did life sentence. One guy that I had got out of Supermax in Florence, Colorado was locked up with Larry Hoover. And I had them on literally with, sometimes with the cop that put them away. And what I found is like here are two people on opposing sides, quote unquote, of this sort of argument about race and policing in this country. But yet they're finishing each other's sentences. They're more like than they are different. They both lost time. They both lost friends. They both lost loved ones to this, you know, war on drugs or whatever this is. Yet they find fault with their own groups. They find they can reach across the quote unquote fucking aisle and say, hey, here's a cop that I really fucking respected.

Or you know what? Here's a gang member I really respected. I really respected the way he was there, his loyalty that he showed, how he protected people in his community. And to me, it's like if these folks can do that, we all should be able to do that. And so, again, without wanting, the hardest thing for me about doing the show is that it's, it's, it's, I'm asking. a lot of people that aren't used to coming on camera, aren't used to coming on the mic, people that I really fucking love and respect

and who have opened up their lives to me, which I think is sacred, and I'm asking them to open up their lives to whatever platform I have. But I genuinely fucking believe that those are the people that we should be listening to. I love the people we have on. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

I'm not an interviewer. I'm not like good at this. I'm not, but it is not about celebrities. It's not about fucking acting. It's literally about discourse and spending some time with people who, again, who walk the walk. They don't just talk about it. It's crazy how one of the biggest problems I have taking pictures of people is do you know you're taking a picture with? I stole a chain one, a can of chains that belonged to handicapped kids one time.

I took it. But you stole... I went to get ice cream. Yeah. But if I went to like get ice cream to a milk shake and I had like $18. I needed $20 to go into the city to get a bag of refa. And that's not even taking the bus.

I'm walking over to George Washington Bridge. What I'm trying to say is a real point there that in life one time I went to get something and there was a mug, a can, where you put your change and there was a couple dollars I took the can. Just took the can in 1993. Why? Because I'm a fucking thief.

You know, I went to prison. I did all these mistakes. I always want to celebrate. Like, I always go, why would you want to take a picture of me? There's a doctor somewhere that saved a guy. kid's life. That's right. And you want to take a picture with a family. That's right. Because he cracked a few jokes because they smoke dope.

Are you fucking retort? What is wrong with you? That's right. Go take a picture with a cop that just gave birth to a kid in a fucking fire. Like he just saved a woman and the baby was fucking, you know, those are the people that we should celebrate. We don't celebrate them America. We don't only celebrate it. The man of the

day, celebrate them. That's it. And then we want to like talk about all these issues. We want to, you know, we want to talk about all these issues, but the only way when you talk about him is by saying you're either on this side or that side. And whether the folks that are actually living it, they don't pick sides. They're busy doing it. You know what I mean?

They're busy doing it. And they see beauty and they see brutality in the life that they're living. And they call it out. They judge people for the content of their character and the fucking look in their eye. It's not because, hey, you're on this team or you're on that team. And, you know, look, man, I think for me, it kind of, you know, during the pandemic and when the sort of the height of the reaction to book, George Floyd, the George Floyd video, and then, you know, during, you know, the verdict, you know, one thing that I was really seeing is I was like, look, man, like, I want to be out there.

I believe in this movement. You know, I believe that, you know, what that guy did, you know, I didn't need to be there. Seeing that video that was just a level of disgusting, horrifying violence that I knew that that needed to be weeded out. And I knew that there was something in the culture of policing that needed to change. with that. It was, it was, I needed to be a part of that movement. I needed to be out on the streets. I needed to be a part of that protest. But then I also saw on TV people throwing fucking bottles at cops. People fucking hurling insults at cops. And each one of those cops has a family.

They've got wives or husbands or kids or brothers and sisters. They're all human beings trying to do the best they can. And this is one guy. So anytime I go out to the protest, I go down a Newton division and I'd go talk to the cops too. And I just didn't understand why you couldn't be both? Why can't you be Black Lives Matters and pro-police? Why can't you do that? And what was crazy is the folks who are actually from these communities, you know, everyone's saying defund the police. The people who are from these communities, you go talk to the folks in Shreveport, Louisiana where the murder rate is just fucking skyrocketing. I'm talking to people in some of the, you know, most ignored communities in that fucking city. They said, we need more policing.

You go to Baltimore. We need more fucking policing. Baltimore, there's been so much. police corruption. But I talk to my buddy Tony Maggio or Keith Galliano, guys who grew up in fucking East Baltimore, who are policing for the right reasons and our community mind. They got the respect to their community. They're fucking aggressive-ass, serious cops. And the community fucking loves

them. And they love the community. They're doing it for the right reasons. It's just, it's so much more complicated than anyone wants to make this shit. All these issues, you know, it's like when I, you know, talking to my friend, you know, in Moscow we had on the podcast the other day to talk about what information is really

like over there and what people are really here on the ground in Moscow. It sucks because, you know, right now so much of the information is so fucking agenda driven. And again, like, Joe, you know me. I'm a fucking asshole who says lines for a living that somebody else wrote. I put makeup on. Like, I researched the shit out of my shit, but I am not the guy to be delivering political discourse to this guy. Like, I is not about, but these fucking people, I know for a fact we need to start listening to people who actually do this shit, who actually have seen it. You want to talk about war? You want to talk about combat?

Talk to special forces soldiers. Talk to Marines. Talk to guys who have actually been there. Talk about what they've seen. Like, let them open up about their experiences. Don't listen to some motherfucker who's just pontificating about books and he's never set foot there. I know in my gut that that's the answer. I know that's the answer for our kids.

I know we got to, those are the people that need the mic right now. So that's what we're trying to do with the show. It's a great fucking show. Thank you. And thank you. I appreciate it, man. Thank you. And I like the cuts.

I like the, you know, you're going to put time into this. Go for it. Yeah, yeah. Go for it. Get fucking everybody that you can on there that you could put a light on to show people with these people.

Look at what happened. We gave a light to the fucking fire department, right? After 9-11. We loved them. Yep. And now we don't want to fucking give them benefits when they're dying of cancer. That's right. You know,

We always put, you know, we love fucking the nurses and the doctors who saved us over the pandemic. But then we fired them over a fucking mandate. And now, you know, I mean, it's just never, it's never, they can never. And these are the people, the lunch lady. That's right. You know who I think about a lot in my fucking day, Mrs. Sabatino, a lady who used the lunch lady in my grammar school. Think about what a lunch lady goes through. That's right.

Sometimes kids don't have. money, they put the 55 cents up for you, whatever it is, for the milk and the cookie. Sometimes she would wink at me and give me an extra cookie. That lady controlled those students. And she didn't even know. That's right. And the effect, the effect that adults have on kids. How can I fucking remember that from my childhood?

That's right. I still remember her from my childhood. Probably more so than a bunch of your teachers. People, right? And let's talk about teachers. Yeah. Fuck the teachers. Guess what I'm doing Saturday.

What are you doing? I'm going to see my freshman year teacher. Wow. He's in from Florida. He helped me out in 85. My other teacher, Mr. Barone, I took him to the fucking grudge match. Oh, really? Oh, that's beautiful.

And we were sitting behind the arrow. I took Mr. Terranova to the longest yard premiere. Wow. Those teachers, people don't respect teachers, and they got a bad rap last year during the pandemic. And I got, said some shit about teachers. I'm sorry. But teachers spend seven hours. day with you. That's more than your fucking parents.

Your parents get home at five, cock, and they put you in bed at nine. That's five fucking hours where I come from. These teachers, these men and women, these coaches, they're with you all fucking day. They know you better than your fucking parents at one point. And we don't give them

nothing. They have to fight for fuck. Every month I got to donate to some fucking teacher, $16 so they can get students, pencils. Because, yeah, I do it every fucking month. They hit me from, I'm getting hit from school. in Africa. Everybody, I donate to every fucking school because I, teachers need supplies and the fucking

schools don't reimburse them. It comes out of their pocket. So they're not making any mullah and then I got to pay for shit for these fucking kids. So these are the tough jobs we don't look at, man. And those are the people I talk to. I love that I speak Spanish so I could talk to the busboy at the restaurant. So when your white ass ain't got no water and bread, I got water and bread like a motherfucker Because I gave that guy a $10 bill when I came in.

You know who gave him a $10 bill? The last time somebody gave him a $10 bill when he left Mexico and his mother put a 10 in his pocket to cross the fucking fence and to last for a month. So these are the people that need attention in this country. These are the people that need attention in this world. And we fucking forget about it. You can learn from them, man.

You'll learn from them. You can learn a ton of shit from them. You know what I mean? So, I mean, these are all the things that, these are the people that we should be celebrating, especially after what this country went through the last two fucking years. So, you know, whatever. Whatever the fuck.

What's on the agenda? What's going on with you? You know, man, I'm here promoting the wheel in the city. You know, the HBO show, I just been doing a little bit of press. And then, you know, I've got to get back to work. I can fly out in a couple hours back to California. Hopefully I'll get to my kids games at the weekend. That's really what I want.

want to fucking do. I want you to tell him the story about the day I called you in Baltimore and you were on the set and you're like, Joey D. Hold on one second. And all of something, it's like, yeah, yeah, I got it. And then you got back on. You're not going to believe what happened. Some guy just ran on the set and I had to punch him.

Oh, you were, you were, I talked to that day. I was on the phone with you. Wow. We were talking about something. And you're like, you're not going to believe what's going to happen. Wow. I'm doing a scene and some guy just ran into the balcony. Yeah.

And we got into a fistfight and we thought it was an extra. I talked to you that day. Why has it happened? No, man, we were doing the, we're doing that. I think it'll come out maybe, is it next episode? I'm not sure which episode it's in, but we were doing the uprising scene, which we're shooting it. You know, what David Simon and those guys do so fucking right. I mean, you know, you love the wire.

I love the wire. You know, these guys, they have such unbelievable access and respect and reverence for the city of Baltimore. They've spent their entire, him and George Pelicanos, they've, they spent their entire careers. So, you know, it's, they do it. We shot every scene that went down. Everything that happens in the show really happened and we really shot it where it happened. A lot of times with the real cops and with the real victims or with the real perpetrator, whatever it is, you know. And we're shooting it with the community.

That show was being shot for the city of Baltimore, by the city of Baltimore, with the city of Baltimore. And so we were shooting, you know, the uprising scene at Madowan Mall where it actually went down. where Wayne Jenkins, this character I show up, he shows up to this big protest and some guys threw some bricks at some cops. So Wayne runs in, he gets the guy through the bricks of the cops, he fucking dragged him to the ground

and takes him into custody. And it was this sort of moment where Wayne really stood up for the other cops, whatever. So we're doing that scene all day. And they told us before we got there, they're like, look, this is going to be a really sensitive day. And again, huge respect to the producers. Like, it was all people

who were actually in the uprising were there that. day. Everybody who I was standing on the line with, they were real Baltimore police officers. So it was a, you know, like, I just so much respect for these guys to show up and do that. You know, you're making, you're making a show about police corruption in Baltimore. I'm going on right along with these guys. They opened their hearts to me. And that's not because I'm a great guy.

It's because what they did with the wire. They said, hey, the wire tells the truth. If you fucking are here to tell the truth, tell the fucking truth. Expose whatever the fuck you want because we respect the truth. So we're out there shooting this scene. And I'm doing, like, you know, you do like 45. fucking takes. It's a big thing. And I've been like 20, and these are all stunt guys that I used to

fuck with on the Punisher. I know all these guys. And, you know, we've got it choreographed. I'm beating this guy. We get, you know, we're making it rougher and rougher, rougher. So all of a sudden, they throw the brick. You know, the bricks made it like fucking plaster. It doesn't hurt. I block it with my fucking shield. And then I run out there, and all of a sudden, there's this guy

with dreadlocks. I've done it 20 times. I'm like, who's this fucking guy? Like, I never, you know, and we talked about this really. Sometimes extras do like weird shit. You know, like they want to get into the scene. But I'm like, we've done it 20 times. I know all these guys by name. And now there's this guy like running at me with these fucking dreadlocks. I'm like, who is this fucking

clown? And then I go, oh my God, is he about to sock me? And he fucking reaches back. I'm like, this dude's going to fucking hit me. And sure enough, he just throws a fucking right hand right at my fucking head. And the last second, I blocked it with my riot shield. But it hit my face. And I felt it cut my, I felt it cut

my face. And I just figured, all right, he's a background actor. But if he's going to take a swing of me, I'm going to take a swing of him. So I just like, wabow. And I hit him with this right hand. I hit him like right in the eye and he fell down. And then we finished the scene. We're like fucking around doing our thing. And then, uh, the scene was over and I go and I'm like looking around to see what, what happened. The guy walks up to me. Joey, his head, his eye is like, I mean, he's bleeding profusely from his eye. And he comes over to me and he gives me a fucking hug. He

goes, yo dog, you a real one, man. You a real one. And he hugged me. Then he looks to his right. three real Baltimore city police officers fucking are chasing him and he runs off. He just happened to be running by and he's like, yo, I'm gonna go knock that motherfucker out on TV. And that's Baltimore.

And like the fact that he gave me a hug after that it was the most Baltimore thing. Like he showed me respect. You know what I mean? It was incredible, man. And then, but like, you know, then I had this big, and then I guess I talked to you,

which is nice. Right there. It's so crazy, man. You're not going to believe what fucking happened. Yeah. You're not going to believe this. Yeah. I'm like, Jesus.

Christ, how does this shit go on? It's crazy. It's crazy. It was crazy. And it was fucked up because then I had this like line of blood on my face from the fucking shield. So then, you know, you know, then it's like, it's got a match. We got to wait. You know, I'm sitting there like, I'm going to lose takes because they got to stop the bleeding because it won't match.

And I just, I want my takes. You only got like half a day to shoot the scene. But you know, fucking actors are. You know what's funny? You mentioned Travolta. Oh, Travolta. Stallone before. I only saw that motherfucker for two minutes on Grudge, man. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was walking in.

As I was walking in, he was walking out, he was in the yard. And I stood out there. I didn't know whether I should go in the fucking building or not the gym. I was ready to go in the gym, but I saw him out in the parking lot. And I go, I got to go up to that motherfucker and say something. And I said, went over like this. I saw him go like this in the SUV. He was looking at himself.

So he went like this thing. Like the other tricep shot. And I go, there's nothing I got to say to him right now. There's nothing I gotta say this so best. I love him. I fucking love that motherfucker. I mean, how can you know? I love that.

I love that motherfucker. And like you talk about like a fucking underdog. Like when you get into that Rocky story and what he did and what he's done for you. Like he's a fucking hero, man. Fucking. I love him. But it was so interesting to see him. I mean like I don't know who was like how many people watch that movie, whatever.

But it was so fucking interesting to see him and De Niro just two. Titans, fucking Titans, legends. Italian Americans came up at the exact same time. Like, fucking Rocky,

like, to do what he did in Rocky, like, he, I mean, he is a fucking brilliant artist. And then you've got De Niro, who's also,

came up at the same time, was considered one of the most brilliant artists, American artists, probably of all time, right? He's in top five, I don't know, at least for me, right?

But these guys, they made decisions along their career that were so fundamentally different. You know? He went on he did Rambo. He did fucking, uh,

uh, like all those big fucking frangelo and Cangor. Tango and Cash. Tango and Cash. Did he do Robo Cop or was that? Did he do Robo? No, that was a different. He did.

Oh, who did? That was the, no, no. What was the cop one that he did? Like the robot. Oh. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. The one with, uh, what's the one?

Judge Dred. Is that right? Judge. Who fucking, you know what the, you know what my point is. The point is, is like, that's the way. And nothing against him. But he was a huge action, you know, franchise star. And De Niro just kept on going out and doing it.

And it was just like seeing these guys, you know, kind of being pitted against each other in a movie when they have so many similarities, but so many differences. And they come from the exact same, you know, era and background. But they've lived, and, like, I think they both sort of had envies and jealousies and admirations of each other. it was extraordinary i i found it fucking fascinating and for me man you know like i'm i'm just a denero guy man so i was just like you know i played his son so i was just all about denero and that i was so like protective you know what i mean of uh of him but it was such a it was such a fast it was a crazy shoot man that was a crazy i learned a lot on that shoot like it was just a really neat uh i tell you who cracked me up hello coo jay when he called denaro benjamin buttons

He was like, this motherfucker is Benjamin Button. He looked at him. He shook his head. He's like, everybody in there was really cool. Yeah. I still talk to the director, Peter. He's great. Yeah, Peter. I still talk to Pete from time to time.

But it's just, I love the last fucking Rambo. Oh, yeah. Did you see it? Yeah. The last one in Mexico. And then he recut it. Yeah. And he fucking, holy shit.

With that fucking finger in the shoulder and all that stuff. That was the most violent one he ever made. But look at what he did. did, I mean, look at what he did in Creed, you know what I mean? He's a beautiful actor, man. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's got so much heart, you know what I mean? He's not going to

be in this one. In the new one? Yeah. No, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Like, that's how, to see him, he's fucking old. And to see what he's doing, he's still out there, I fucking, it's just, he made more money anybody during this pandemic. Oh, yeah. They played three

of his movies every fucking day. Every fucking day. You know, so. He's got a new show. A monster show. A monster show. A monster show. Yeah.

And Taylor's the great. I mean, he's the greatest. He's the, fuck, I've done three things with Taylor. He's the greatest. Is Taylor directing? I don't know if Taylor's to direct a show. You know, Taylor's got an empire now. You know, Yellowstone in 1883.

And like, you know, he's doing all that, you know, I think the other one's like mayor of, of Kingstown. Maybe I'm probably butcher in the name. But he's got, you know, Taylor, Taylor was a fucking actor on sons of anarchy. He played the cop on sons of anarchy. And, you know, man. He just, he got sick of telling other people's stories. He got sick of, you know, hanging out with a bunch of guys trying to be tough bikers, you know, and Taylor's a tough motherfucker.

He's exactly who he said. He was the main cop. He was the main cop in the first few seasons. Like the, like the, he was sort of like the villain in a way. You know, he was like the guy that, you know, he's trying to keep peace in the town. The white dude? The white dude. That's Taylor Sheridan.

There was a skinny dude that was a little built. Sons of Anarchy. And then there was the old guy. That's the younger guy. the handsome younger guy. That's Taylor Sheridan. And so he said, you know what, man? I'm done with this shit.

I'm going to go write a script. He fucking wrote Sicario. You know what I mean? And then he got done with that. He wrote Sicario. And then he got done with that and he wrote Hell or High Water. Then he got done with that and he wrote Wind River and directed it. You know, and then he, and now he's got, he's got an empire.

And he's speaking to people who Hollywood isn't really speaking to very much anymore. Yellowstone is like the biggest fucking show in the world. It's a fucking amazing. It's a fucking amazing. Taylor is just like he's done things his own way and he's refused to play ball. And he's, I mean, you know, man, like, you know how it is. You become a series regular on a show like Suns of Anarch. He walked away from that to write.

He had never written anything. And he's been such a kind, like, supporter of mine. You know, when I started writing, you know, I wrote this show called The Bottoms, you know, which we just sold to HBO. Like, you know, he was the first guy I went to. first guy that said, write this, do this yourself. He's like, I'll help you. I'll give you advice. And he's supported me, stuck by me.

He's a beautiful, beautiful guy, Taylor shared. He's brilliant. And I think now that he's got Stallone, like, this will be even a new iteration of Stallone with Taylor. It's going to be great. Now, Taylor wrote this? Yeah. Also, it's a mob thing.

Yeah. It's a mob show. And it's Terrence went there. Is it, is what I heard. I think Terrence is the executive producer. That might be right. That might be right. I think so.

That might be right. It's going to be a good show. They didn't call me to go to Oklahoma Yeah Tulsa King, that's right Tulsa King, that's what's called Call you call you Call fucking Joey

What are you guys doing? No, they didn't want me for the pilot They said they had something Okay In the future that they might Whatever One last question

Why the fuck were you In this Sandra Bernhard movie Jesus Christ Me and my wife were like What the fuck Why is he in this Sandra Bernhard movie God damn it

I know. What's the name? Bullock. But I saw, I knew what you meant, which is beautiful. You see us. I watched that. It was fucking awesome, dude. I loved that movie. I liked it, but I...

You're like, what am I doing in there? Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. People give me a hard to... Dude. Listen, first of all, I... Here's the thing. She called me. She called me.

I remember exactly where I was. Yeah, I was sitting in the... I was sitting in the parking. You know where the... What's that great fucking breakfast spot on Fairfax? on a sunset in Fairfax. You know what I'm talking about? Right next the Directors Guild.

Across the street from the Starbucks there. What's it called? The fucking waffle. The griddle. The grittle. The fucking... Listen, bro. He's like an advertisement for smoking wheat. You know how much fucking weed?

He remembers everything. No, I remember that place because Lindsay Lohan went in there at the week of a trial. Oh, really? Did you ever go in there? Yeah. I mean, that play, how great is that? The only problem I got is that you got to wait on a lot.

So I used to pull up. up there and go, beep, you fucking sheep cock suckers, there's bagels across the street. And I would pull off and they go, why is he yelling at us? Because you're standing on line for fucking eggs. For eggs. For eggs. Anybody can make an egg.

I don't stand in line for food. Okay. Anybody can make an egg. But they have good, uh. It's amazing what they do. They do. It really is a fucking coffee pot. It's a breakfast beyond what, you know, you get an omelet like this fucking thing.

It's almost like you can't believe what they're doing in there. It's right, right? And the big man, like big. potatoes for breakfast. Amazing. Chilly. Amazing. Like they got a ton of shit in there.

Huge menu. Huge menu. It's a great place. It's a great fucking place. But see, we're so bad. So I would just stay in the car and go south and go to Dukes. I'm a Duke's. I like Dukes.

Next to Whiskey Go-Go-Go. I like Dukes on Sunset. Yeah, I mean, I used to go to Duke's when I first came to town. When I first came to L.A., I go to Dukes all the time. But I'm sitting there in the fucking parking lot behind. The griddle? The grid. The grid.

I'm sitting there in the griddle. And, you know, I talked. to the director of that movie. And she seemed great. She did a movie. She's German. She did a German movie called System Crashers. That was so fucking good.

And for me, like, that's my thing, man. I just want to work with great directors. I don't give a fuck if it's a big part, little, but I really don't care about that. I just want to be with great directors. But I will say, I said to them, look, I can't do this one. Like, I just can't, like, I'm too busy. I get too much going on. I can't do this.

I can't do another, you know, like, I want to work with you. But, you know, like cutting fish and, like, not doing anything. I can't do it. And then fucking Sandy Bullock called me She called me And she just said

Look I need you to do this I need you And like the truth is man Like call it whatever I had so much respect For the fact that she did that She said I see you in this I want it to be you

Norah the director loves you Like I want to do these scenes with you And she's like I'll make it easy on you We'll get you in and out But like I really want it to be you Like do this for me I'm like fuck man

Like I had You know gravity I watch gravity with my kids The other day I'm Sandy Bullock is a fucking gangster man. Santa Bullock's a gangster, but it's time... And a good person. She's a good, good, good person.

She's a good person. Let me tell you something else about Sandy Bullock. All these movie stars with their like, you know, 10 person security details and this team of fucking Navy Seals and all this shit that only draws more attention to them. No one's going to do fucking shit to them anyways, right? Sandy Bullock has got one guy, Pete. I think he's named Pete. He's a retired LAPD detective. This guy is like, you remember that show Hunter?

Yes. Remember Hunter? Yes. This guy looks like fucking Hunter. This guy like he's got gray hair. He smokes cigarettes. He's probably like six, five, you know. He'll like carry her bag or carry her sweater. He does that. It's just hip.

It's just him. And we were on the streets of fucking, you know, on Hastings, down Hastings in Vancouver. You know, where like... I've never been able. It's kind of like what... It's Canada's Skid Row. It's Hastings, right? It's Skid Row, right?

So it's like, it's just like our Skid Row. People aren't like shitting themselves. Nobody's got a gun. You know what I mean? So she's walking across the street and he's just, I mean, he's just like this fucking cool ass old handsome dude with his aviator smoking a cigarette holding her fucking bag. And all of a sudden she's walking across the street in the scene and some guy out of nowhere just starts running at her. This motherfucker does not even pick up his pace, Joey. He just fucking mid-sentence fucking puts a cigarette down, walks over, fucking grabs that motherfucker by the arm, two inches away from her and just fucking takes him off the street.

It's like she didn't even notice. This guy has like got her like that. He's, he's, he's, and it just says so much about her that that's who's in. You know, they've been together forever. He loves her. He loves the family. I got, I got so much good to say about Sandra Bullock, man. So like she asked, I came, you know what I mean?

That's okay. I love you. I love you, too, man. I'm happy you swung by today. Get a chance to watch We own the night. I love it. We own the city. We own the city.

You know me, though. Yeah, it don't matter. I don't even, you know, yeah. Nine o'clock Monday. That's all you need to fucking know. HBO. I love this motherfucker. He's a savage.

One of the best in the business. And if Hollywood goes how I want it, the next Charles Bronson. That's it. Plain and fucking simple. Hopefully he'll win the Oscar and send an Indian to pick it up. Like Marlon Brando, you know what I'm saying?

I love you, Kyle, Suck. I love you, too. Thanks for coming on, buddy. Thank you for having me, bro. All right. I want to thank you, motherfuckers. I want to thank John Berndtall for coming on today. I love you guys.

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