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What's happened, you bad motherfuckers?
Welcome to another fun-filled episode of the fucking joint.
It's Wednesday, the 31st of the month.
That's it. It's over.
We did another month.
We got four months left in the year.
This is my favorite fucking quarter of the year.
little fucking going all out.
I got comedy shows.
I got a ton of shit going on.
But anyway, I have a guest today in
motherfucking studio.
This guy, my wife asked me
who had in the podcast playing.
I told her the most interesting guy I've met
since I've been in New Jersey.
Welcome Mr. Rob Schaefer to the fucking joint.
We're breaking this podcast,
Cherry the Boot too.
What's happening, brother?
Everything's great.
Well, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Oh, man.
Ever since I met you, I've been a different fucking animal.
We met through jiu jihadism.
We have a mutual friend, Rob, story.
Oh, he didn't go to class today.
He was in class today.
He was?
He was in class.
Okay, good.
I didn't think he went to class.
But we met through him.
You know, he introduced me to Mr. Schaefer because he said maybe he can help you out with the breathing and shit.
You know, I love doing jiu-jitsu.
I just suck at it.
But I keep showing up.
But I think this guy's story is interesting for anybody who wants to do anything with their life.
So tell us how it started.
stockbroker in the city, right?
I was a stockbroker in the city.
I wasn't your typical, like, yuppie Ivy League guy that went to Harvard and became a stockbroker.
You know, my dad was in New York City fireman.
I was a high school dropout, and I actually coached hockey at Manor Road in Staten Island,
which I'm sure you're familiar with, right?
So the owner of Manor Road, I used to coach the Senate hockey, and the owner of Manor Road,
I owned a broker-dealer called Joseph Stevens in Manhattan on 59 Maiden Lane.
And one day when I was like 20 years old, he's like, Rob, what are you going to do when you
grow up?
And I was like, I'm going to be a professional hockey player.
player. And he took me on his side. He's like, let me tell you something. You're never going to be a
professional hockey player. He's like, I was like, well, thanks a lot for the confidence. You know,
well, what should I do in my life? He was like, oh, why don't you come work for me? I own a broker
dealer. I didn't even know what a stock was at the time. But I decided to take the opportunity
and whatnot. And I went there. I worked for 14 years on Wall Street. It did very, very well.
due to a really unfortunate circumstance in my life when I was 33.
I had an ex-pass away, really fucked my head up a little bit,
and I decided to spend the next year of my life on a bender
that probably could have killed half of the Rolling Stones, you know?
And then at the very end of that is when I found Jiu-Soo.
How did you find Jiu-What made you go in that?
During everything I always worked out.
I was always in the gym.
It could have been the worst day of my life.
I could have been hung over.
I was just a gym rat since I was a little kid.
So I was in the gym.
long story short, you know,
these guys are carrying mats through the gym
to set up this little room in the back.
And I figured they were doing like a yoga room
or some shit like that.
But one of the guys I ended up going to high school with
and I actually grew up next to since I was five years old.
His name is Gus Branstetter.
He's a black belt and jihitsu.
And he was like, oh, it's great to see you.
You would love jiu-jitsu.
It's just like wrestling, but with submissions.
So why don't you come?
So I'm like 230 pounds at the time.
Like fucking jacked.
I looked like a big beach ball, like a retard,
like all the guys at the Jersey Shore, you know?
And I go to the class, and it was cool.
And then at the end, he's like, all right, we're going to do live rounds now,
and you're going to roll with this guy.
And the guy he points to, by the way, his name is Dave Zanario.
They call him Super Dave.
He is a black belt then.
He's still a very good black belt, very big competitor.
He's about 125 pounds, if that, okay?
I'm 2.30 at the time.
And he's about 5 foot 4, okay?
Sort of like, you're going to roll with him.
And I tell my friend Gus, I was like, I'm not going to roll with this guy.
I'm going to fucking hurt this guy.
I don't want to roll with him.
He said, yeah, go hurt him.
I said, all right.
So I roll with Dave.
I had a 110 pound weight difference between me and him.
He beat the living shit out of me.
When I tell you, like, probably submitted me 25 times in five minutes.
And that was because he was being nice, you know?
So after that, that was it.
I was like, whatever the hell this guy just did to me,
I need to learn how to do that.
And I need to learn it quick because that's never happening again.
Now, seven years later, it still happens every time I roll with him.
But it's just, you know,
Now you know the game.
There's always those levels, and he's always up there.
Yeah, but that's all I got into it.
And I really, really fell in love with it.
Really dedicated the past six years to training.
I trained three, four times a day sometimes,
between not just jih Tjitsu, but Jiu, the gym,
the breathwork that you and I have been doing together
and things of that nature.
And it's changed my life in the best possible way I could ever imagine.
How long did you stay at that school?
I was only at that school for a few months,
not for any better reason, just because I ended up moving.
So I went up to North Jersey and I was training at a school called Pure MMA.
I think they're the biggest in New Jersey.
They have like 1,500 students in Rockaway.
Andy and Mikey Maine.
Andy was on the ultimate fighter and he was the king of pancreas and stuff like that.
And Mikey's just another young talented guy.
But more importantly, they're just like most people you meet,
but they're just two of the greatest people.
They built a beautiful facility.
They have a great student base.
And I trained there for a long time until I met.
Cyborg and then transitioned to fight sports and not training with Steve as well when I'm in New Jersey.
Now where did you meet Cyborg? So I met side. So when I first got into Jiu-Jitsu, I really, really wanted to
be great at it and I kind of got discouraged because I started at 35, you know, and you see all these
world champions out there. They're like, you know, 18, 19, 20 years old. So I thought I was very late
and it was discouraging because I was still rolling with younger guys, but I didn't think I'd ever
have the ability to accomplish much starting so late in my life. So I met Cyborg at a at
no gey worlds
or maybe
yeah no gey worlds
three years ago
I think it was
2019 like right before COVID
and I watched him at
40 years old you know
win a world championship
actually I'm sorry
I think in the finals of that
he blew out his knee
in it
but nonetheless
last year for example
at 40 years old
he wins an adult world championship
you know what I mean
like guys is a seventh time
world champion
ADCC champion
and he's still winning
at the highest level
at my age.
So once I met him, I was like, all right, there's my motivation.
I'm going to be the broke man's version of that guy.
So now he trains in Florida.
He trains out of Miami.
So you moved to everything.
I went down there to go move, okay?
I trained there with him.
I went down there and moved.
He invited me to join the team.
Come back and now I'm moving, right?
Moving down April 15th, 2020.
And I lived in Miami.
I lived in 2013.
April 15th, 2020, I had my realtor appointment
to look at places and fucking COVID happens, right?
So they canceled all realtor appointments.
You couldn't even go into apartments or houses to look at them at that time.
So I said, all right, you know what?
I'll sit tight as soon as this shit is over thinking it's going to be, what, a week,
you know, two weeks, three, a month, right?
Then I'll go move down.
Well, here we are now three years later.
Things are finally just subsiding and the prices down there have more than doubled.
So I'm still probably to a fault so loyal to that team,
I will never compete under any different team.
I'd rather quit Jiu-Jitsu.
But I'm training right now with, you know, Steve and Inferno.
As you know, I'm up here.
They're super supportive and help me as much as they can while I'm here.
The thing that impresses me the most about you is you became a champion.
At the age of 40?
30.
Yeah, 40.
40.
And it's really interesting that after I spoke to you, you're a champion.
I mean, you're a champion in life because you put every,
everything you have into this.
Like, you know, the ability that you have as a stockbroker to work and make money,
you push that aside to make, to be happy, which a lot of people don't even understand
that concept.
They will never think about that.
You know, they'll never adjust it because they're scared they won't be able to make money.
You took a chance, you put some money away, and you said, this is what I want to do,
I'm going to change my budget.
You drive a car like me, a Subaru, you kept all the, you kept your fucking, you kept your fucking
over at low, and you've dedicated yourself to training.
That's, I tell you, that's spectacular.
The truth of it is that if it wasn't for Jiu-Jitsu, I wouldn't have done that
because, you know, the business that I was brought up and it was about, you know,
who has the most, it was the biggest house, who was the nicest car, the nicest watch,
and you never were happy.
You know, you could have made a million dollars, and the guy down the hall made $2 million,
and, you know, you weren't good enough.
Once you start training J-Jitsu, as I'm sure you know,
because you meet so many people from all walks of life,
none of that shit mattered to me anymore.
I was like, you know what?
I'm happy doing this,
and if I can just do this effectively
and enjoy myself, I'm good.
And I did, and guess what?
Through Jiu-Jitsu, my business exploded.
I got into another business.
Now I'm doing solar.
That's exploded just from people
that I met through Jiu-Jitsu.
I'm here with you because of Jiu-Jitsu.
99% of my great friends in life
I've met through Jiu-Jitsu.
So it's really, you know,
it's the sport that changes,
not just me,
but anyone you talk to that really falls in love with it,
it has the biggest impact on my life and anything I can imagine.
You know, I read all this stuff online about jiu-jitsu is a cult,
jujitsu is this, and it's really hard to explain the people
the satisfaction you get from jiu-jitsu.
I went to karate as a kid.
I did everything.
You know, I tried everything at least one time.
When I walked into that jih-jitsu place for the first time,
because I had dear friends that were already in the fucking game,
They're masters of this shit
And they couldn't get me to do it
And one day I just watched the match
And I'm like, I like this better than that old MMA shit
I saw a beauty in Jiu-Jitsu
That I never saw in anything else
Like I saw it in basketball
You see it in baseball
There's a certain beauty to it
But Jiu-Jitsu just grabbed me
And Jiu-Jitsu is a life-changer
For some people like it was for you
Jiu-Jitsu lets you know
How fucked up you really are
and the things you got to, yeah, you're going for a blue belt, you're going for this.
But there's so many personal things.
Like for me, I was a mouth breathing.
We're working on that now, right?
Right, but no.
I mean, listen, I've got my nose broken 18 times, and then you put two pounds of coke in there.
It ain't going to help your nostrils of breathing.
I still remember getting surgery.
Like all the surgeries I've gotten since 2013 and helped me with Jiu-Jitsu.
but they showed me that
like to breathe
like I never knew I wasn't breathing
properly I had no fucking idea
I would walk stairs and go why am I
out of breath
it's three fucking stairs you know
and then you learn I realized
I couldn't breathe right that's what I was doing
so forget jiu jitsu I had to learn
how to breathe right and then
I had a surgery on my knee and why did I get
and I'm like I'm never going to go back to jizu's up to the surgery
are you fucking kidding me you don't even let the knee heal
No.
And you got to go back.
And the thing I noticed about Jiu-Jitsu is one thing.
Like, I was going to kickboxing for a while, this kickboxing America.
You know, I had gone from 418 pounds to about 270, and I wanted to keep my weight there.
I wasn't involved in Jiu-Jitsu before, but I would go to these kickboxing places,
and I would see these guys with the rash guards and the fucking knee pads and the fucking pants and greased hair.
And they're fucking hitting me for real.
And I'm like, can I ask you a question?
What do you do for a living?
You're a fireman?
I'm a fireman.
A fucking fire man.
You know, so it was a little too real for me, like that kickboxing place.
It was like people were trying to always overproof themselves.
Right.
Then you walk into a jiu-jitsu gym.
And the first day, they'll say to you, go with that guy.
And as you're going with this guy, he's beating you up.
You're not breathing right.
But he'll stop and go, put your hand here.
Put your hand over here.
Do this.
Do that.
The people you meet, that's never been done.
No.
Like, I never had that before.
You know, I went through a really bad period for about a year.
After I moved here, I was confused.
And I walked into Gracie one day and fucking, they were very nice to me, you know.
And a week later, I had that knee surgery.
And I had this corona fear.
I had the corona fear.
Listen, man, I was asking somebody the other day,
how come all these people haven't gone back to work?
Like, there's a lot of people, like, I just read somewhere else that they can't do this, this year.
because they don't have enough employees.
People don't realize they're still,
Amazon, there's still a lot of people
that are hiding in their houses, guys.
I want you to know that.
That's still a lot of people.
What about all these people that lost their jobs
for not getting vaccinated?
Now you don't need a vaccine anymore for anything,
but these people still lost all their jobs.
Well, the thing with me was,
I hope, if you're a union
and they fired you over this vaccine,
you better call them up
and say, listen, we're taking these motherfuckers to court.
I'm unit.
Can't fucking fire me over this.
These cops that lost their job,
some firefighters.
It's funny because when I went to the LBI this year,
I met some fire lady,
like a firewoman, a firefighter that was a female,
and then she crossed the street with like 10 other chicks,
and they were all yoked and shit,
and she was telling me that they became firefighters during the pandemic
because all these guys quit.
So they're like, we'll take the fucking vaccine.
They feel the oldest.
Yeah, I don't need my uterus.
Yeah, I don't take the fucking vaccine.
I'm a lesbian.
My heart's job next week.
It's okay.
Yeah, so it's so weird how everything has changed.
Oh, but back to Jiu-Jitsu, I was a mess, guys.
Mike would come over and I'm like, you got to go, Mike.
Like, I couldn't take it no more.
I couldn't.
I would be afraid to get him sick or for me to get sick from him.
He's got kids.
I didn't, dog, that was my biggest fucking fear.
With somebody going, Joey, I'm dying because I went and smoked a joint with your stupid ass.
And I didn't want to, so I didn't encourage it.
But the kid called me, Sean.
Coach Sean from Hollis
Gracie's like bro what are you doing
I go nothing my knee he goes
come in and just exercise
at the time I was going to the gym and stuff
dog I was so scared of COVID
when he put me in a close guard
and he was like breathing on me I'm like
I'm gonna fucking die
Jiu Jiu Jitsu ruin my life
Jiu Jiu Jitsu ruin my life
and after he threw me around a couple minutes
and shit I'm like oh
this is tremendous I conquered
COVID fear all in one day
I went to acupuncture
the first day, September 22nd, I went to Jiu-Jitsu,
and then I had the hardest thing of ever.
I had to go to the city for the premiere of the Soprano movie
with 2,000 people in the Beacon Theater.
I still remember jumping out of the car
and a bunch of people hugging me and going,
I'm dying.
Yeah, I'm not going to make it home.
I'm dying at this movie theater.
And the next week I went to Jiu-Jitsu,
and my fear was gone.
Yeah.
I went to their seminar, and I went upstairs,
and there was like 60 people.
upstairs, oh boy.
And I forced myself.
And everybody was so fucking nice.
And people were so cool.
And I joined Jitsu basically
for social reasons and for health
reasons. Because I know
the people I'm going to have around me
are going to be the best people.
100%. This morning I was talking to a guy from
the FBI in my class. I'm a
fucking criminal. And he's talking to me
for 20 minutes about kids.
He's in charge of organized crime.
Goes to the city every day
for fucking, and here I am talking to him.
A couple weeks ago was me, him,
and an actual gangster in class.
He only trains in the Ghi, though,
so you can't see the wire, right?
Yeah, you can't see the fucking wire.
It's just a great thing,
and now I have all these friends from Jiu-Jitsu.
I call me some of them smoke weeds.
I meet the one Asian guy.
We smoke a number from time to time,
and it's great, and I'm getting healthy.
Like today, I burn 500 and 11 fucking calories.
That's a lot of calories for a fucking old man.
that you enjoy.
Oh my God.
And I'm getting beat up.
Yeah.
Coach, come on.
You know I'm getting beat up and throwing.
I did get an Americana today.
There you go.
I got a simple,
I could never get those.
I could never get those.
And that's the game I want to play.
So I've been working on just simple Americanas,
Camoras,
from side control.
And it's just,
like right now,
I want to do comedy part time,
but I want to do Jiu-Too full-time.
Even though I suck at it.
I don't give a fuck.
We were just talking about recuperation.
Yeah.
And we were talking about how,
I want to lift twice a week and then go to Jitu three times a week, but I can't do it.
Like my goal was to hit five classes one week and I had four.
But that's fine.
You know what the goal should be to have as many classes as you can and still do your best at them?
Like even when I train twice a day, six, seven days a week, by the six or seven day, I'm not getting really good training.
It's my body's falling apart.
I'm 41 as well.
You know what I mean?
I'm getting up there in age.
I don't recover like I used to.
I'm just a little bit retarded.
If I don't train twice a day, I lose my mind.
So, like, it's the lesser of two evils.
I'm a big believer in, like, destroying your body to fix your mind, if you ever heard that saying before.
You know, and when I'm destroying my body, I have no stress.
I'm happy as can be.
All the orphans come out.
I leave that room feeling great.
Then I can go deal with all the bullshit I have to deal with afterwards, you know?
You know, it was really impressive.
What really impressed me about you was a couple years ago on the church when I had the previous podcast,
I don't know, me and Lee were talking about something.
I did about 20 minutes about my day.
Do you remember that podcast?
I go, let me tell you what.
There was a couple of podcasts.
No, but that was, like, I wanted people to understand.
Like, people think that you just go up on stage at 8 o'clock at night,
and people fall down laughing, and you walk off the stage,
and people throw coke at you.
This is what people think.
And you go into the green room and somebody's sucking your dick,
and all day you sleep and you party, you know.
And people have no idea when you get to a certain level.
Like, okay, we see guns.
Guns and roses now, all right.
Guns and roses are not partying no more.
They're not partying.
They're clean and sober.
They're old.
So what do they do now?
If you talk to them, like I don't talk to them,
but if you look into their day,
I guarantee all five of them are working out.
I know Duff goes, he's a fucking kickboxer.
He trains with fucking crazy man.
For Duff to get healed,
when his fucking liver blew up or whatever ruptured from drinking,
he went to one of the group,
That's Benny the Jet.
Okay.
So he trains at Benny the Jet when he's in town,
and I think he takes him on the road, on the tours.
That's cool.
I would too.
I would too.
So, you know, people think, like a guy like you walk in,
you got a nice build, you're healthy, you're strong.
They think you just pull up with your Maserati go and beat up three people
and get back in your car and go home.
Tell me about your day.
Tell me about your supplement intake.
So these people know the road to a champion.
you. Well, my day is seven days a week, but that doesn't mean I actually do it seven days a week.
You know, I do have businesses that I run it and whatnot. So I plan on training two, three times a day,
every single day, seven days a week. And when people ask me how much I train, I tell them I train every day.
But life happens sometimes and I don't actually train on those days. I just never plan on not training for a day.
You know, like I'm leaving for worlds on Thursday, so I took off today and tomorrow let my body recover.
Okay. I still tell people I train every day, but I didn't train today and I'm not training tomorrow.
But when I'm healthy, which as you get older, that's half the battle, right?
I have, you know, two blown out knees, two herniated, this in my back, you know.
When I'm healthy and the weather's permitting, my day starts off.
I get up every morning and I go do a mirth, okay?
Mile run with a 20-pound weighted vest, 300 squats, 200 push-ups, 100 pull-ups,
then another mile run.
Now, before this, is there any coffee, any breakfast?
Oh, yeah, I'm up before.
Any supplements, any protein shake.
4.30 in the morning I get up.
Between 4.30 and 5.30 is like my favorite hour of the day.
day. The world is still asleep. I have my coffee, check my emails, look at Jiu-Jitsu shit on
Instagram and stuff like that, and just get myself mentally prepared for the day. I take a whole
bunch of supplements, everything from, you know, magnesium, salt. I take, what is the word I'm
looking for? I'm having a brain fart at the moment. I'll take a peptide called BPC 157,
which fixes your, it actually regrows muscle fibers, tendons, and ligaments. So I take those from my knees
my elbows, my tendinitis and shit like that.
I take heartarine, which is another peptide that helps with your lung capacity and your endurance.
I do a lot of breathwork, which, you know, we've done together.
And if I, if you don't mind me discussing that briefly.
So, you know, as I mentioned, I do breathwork with a girl named Gabriella Borgias.
She is fucking awesome.
You want to go tomorrow and see you?
I would, if she's available, I'd love to get you in there.
I'll ask you and we'll go.
We got nothing.
She is amazing.
I met her, just like I met her through Jijitsu.
Okay, we started bartering.
So I was teaching her and her awesome daughter, Giselle.
I was teaching them group judici lessons, and they were teaching me breathwork lessons.
I went there because I wanted to have, you know, better breathing.
I still compete with guys sometimes that are 25.
I'm 41, and they have endless gas tanks.
So I'm on my way there.
I'm like, I got this breathwork coach.
This is going to be great.
I think I'm going to go do some meditative breathing with some nice music and like relax and everything.
That was like the fucking polar opposite of what we did.
I walk in there.
She's like, I walk in there.
She's got Metallica blasting.
She's making me do these diaphragm expansion exercises with like a 40-pound kettlebell on my stomach.
I'm like hyperventilating.
She's like, we have three minutes left.
And you know when you go do something and like halfway through in your mind, you're like,
I don't want to be here right now.
Like I just want to be, but I can't.
Well, yeah, that's how it was.
But through that, it completely changed my life, not just for endurance.
That was actually probably the littlest piece that I took out of it.
But, you know, I had really bad.
anxiety and depression. That fixed it dramatically. You know, you were talking about, you know,
fight or flight, your sympathetic nervous system when, for people that don't know what that is,
it's like if someone opens this door and jumps out with a knife, we're going to go and stop
breathing and hold our breath and our heart rate goes up and your pupils dialate and he freeze.
And that's your body. And that's okay. That's when your body's telling you get the fuck out of
here. You're in trouble. But that happens too often in people. Okay. And by by activating your
parasympathetic nervous system, which is pretty much the opposite, that's your body.
telling you, chill out, calm down, you're going to be fine.
And the only way to activate is by breathing.
So, you know, through that, everything, not just jujitsu or just life.
Life got better, you know, and I do 20, 30 minutes worth of breathwork a day.
I just add it to my everyday routine.
It's probably the best 20, 30 minutes that I have every day.
And now she's working with Bastruton.
She's a certified, actual certified breathwork instructor under Dr. Belisa.
And the cool thing is you have guys now like Wim Hof, right?
that's bringing a lot of attention to breath work.
But all these people show you really cool shit,
but they don't actually teach you how to breathe.
You can imitate what they're doing,
but most people, when they breathe or they're out of breath,
they take these big, huge breaths with their shoulders,
and they fill up their lungs up here, right?
So, yeah, if you think about it, right,
your lungs are shaped like two teardrops or two pairs like this.
The parts that are up by your shoulders,
they're the smallest part.
So when people are breathing so much to fill up this much of your lungs,
and not this, that's when you start gasping for it.
Right?
Because you're becoming oxygen starved because you're only getting this little bit.
When you breathe out of your belly, not only does your diaphragm grow and your lungs grow because they're muscles.
All right.
But that's when you can slow down everything, control your breathing, control your nervous system.
And in studies that Wimhoff has done, they literally gave him and his entire team like pneumonia.
They gave it to him first and he wouldn't get sick.
Like he just didn't get sick.
They thought it was a fluke.
So they took like 10 of his students.
It might not be pneumonia.
It was a flu or, but regardless, whatever it is.
They gave like 10 of his pupils fucking pneumonia and none of them got sick.
And this is like a documented study.
You can Google it.
It's amazing.
So, and he swears that you can actually control your body's own immune system by breathing.
So pretty cool stuff, you know.
I downloaded the breathwork at.
I'm up to level 18.
There you go.
I do like three different.
different exercise in the morning.
I do seven days
to better performance.
They have everything.
Seven days to lower blood pressure,
seven days to fucking reduce stress.
The breathing exercise
that I think I'm getting the most out of
is fucking the sleep on.
You know, it's a long inhale
and a long exhale
with a pause and then you're five,
ten seconds and you go back.
Don't I do it in bed with the sleep apnea
mask on to really give me anxiety.
at night because the cat's on top of me.
So if I'm doing this and the cat's on top of me,
I just have to pet her and my anxiety goes away.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, she's stupid.
These two cats I have left are not.
They're great cats.
I love them with all my heart.
I used to have a cat that that motherfucker knew
when I was anxious and he would jump on me
and stick his claws into my chest.
And I would be, what would you do if you?
You know when you're anxious.
You just want to be fucking alone.
When you're anxious,
My wife kissed me the other day.
I'm like, Terry, come on.
I'm getting anxiety attack.
And you're going to linger over here for two minutes.
Get the fuck out of here.
Go take a drive.
Go take a drive.
But I've been in situations where I've been fucking anxious,
breathing, sweating, hyperventilate.
And that cat used to jump on me.
And I love that cat a lot.
I don't know.
I'm not a big guy.
I'm pushing animals or hitting it.
I would just sit there and go,
Finney, get the fuck off me.
And he would squeeze his claws into me.
And I would go out.
But at the end of the hour hours, guess what that also happened?
Anxiety was gone.
That motherfucker knew what he was doing.
Oh, they all know.
They have a six cents.
They fucking know what he was doing.
So it's like at night, when I go upstairs now, I trust her.
I know she's always going to jump on my side.
So I'll do the breathwork on my side on my left shoulder.
And it pushed me out, guys.
And it's pretty interesting.
I'll tell you why God works in a weird fucking way,
because I have.
have the whoop app. I fucking love
the whoop app. It's helped me dramatically.
But what it's helped me with the
most is sleep.
When you wake up in the morning
with the whoop app, do you have one?
Yeah, I had one. I don't use it anymore.
It's just because I didn't like wearing
that didn't show all the data on it. So I use my Apple Watch
now. But I did, I have the whoop still. I just don't
use it anymore. It's really weird with the
whoop. Remember what is it? What does it ask you in the
morning? How rested do you feel?
No. How was your breathing? Did
you have sex last night? Oh, all the
questionnaires, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Every morning
you got to answer this questionnaire, but
let me tell you what they asked you, did you cup,
do acupuncture, did you stretch? Did you drink?
All that stuff. You drink alcohol, but they'll know by your
breathing, like, I have a sleep apnea machine
and it's got a computer in it, so at the end of the month, they send me an email.
Oh, and that has all your data too? Oh, yeah, but that has a little bit more
in depth. In depth. But that data will tell you, as soon as
you're drunk, like the doctor would call me, like a day after and go,
What, do you drink on the 18th?
Oh, you could see immediately.
Yeah, you could tell because you dehydrate and something goes out.
And your heart rate, alcohol, and I was a heavy drinker before judiths too,
like struggling heavy drinker, especially after my ex passed away.
Alcohol is the worst drug in the world.
It's worst in heroin.
The worst.
It's the worst drug in the world.
The worst.
People have no understanding out what alcohol is going to do to you in the long run.
You can't even quit out.
There's two things you can't quit without dying.
Alcohol and benzos.
Cold turkey, right.
You withdraw and die.
You withdraw, you have a great chance of dying.
So alcohol affects you also.
But what else goes by your day?
Like after the supplements and the weight of vest, what else adds to your day?
I come home.
Usually I have a healthy breakfast.
I go get my first training session in.
In between my first training session and the nighttime session is when I actually
do whatever work I need to get done.
So, you know, I still run my private equity group.
I just got into solar sales.
It's been doing really, really well.
So I get my work done, but again, I get to make it in my schedule.
So that's like my time to do it.
And if I have something in that time frame that has jiu-jitsu or the gym related to it,
I just rearrange my schedule.
So I'm really blessed now that I put myself in that position.
Because I can make my day pretty much happy every day, however I want it to.
You know?
Then I go back and get my second training session in for the day.
And I do try to dictate what my training sessions are.
Like I'll work on specific things for the entire week.
Even if the class is learning something, I'll obviously be respectful
and do the drills that the class is doing.
But when I roll, I always roll with a purpose.
Like, not just, okay, I'm going to try some random shit out.
And if it works out, great, and I'm going to have some fun.
I go there every day with a purpose.
Like, I'm going to work on this this week, you know,
either something I want to learn or something that I'm lacking or, you know, whatever it is.
I feel like if you don't train with a purpose,
you're taking away a whole aspect of learning.
You know, perfect examples I tell people, like,
anyone can imitate things.
Like, when you go to Jiu-Jitsu at first,
and I could teach you how to do an arm bar, right?
right now. And I can show you how to do a really good arm bar. You'll know how to do an arm bar.
It doesn't mean you know how to do jiu-jitsu. It just means you know how to do an arm bar.
My girlfriend has a fucking awesome arm bar. I've been drilling on her for four years.
You know what I mean? She has no idea about conceptually how to do jiu-jitsu. She just knows
how to do an arm bar. You know, so I'm very big on learning the whole picture of it and not just
imitating moves or seeing one cool thing on YouTube. I'm going to learn that today, even though
it has no relevance to anything else that I'm doing. That's it, man. Home by 9 o'clock and bed by
930.
How many hours do you sleep on that?
It's a regimen.
I sleep.
Yeah, I sleep six hours every night and when I do train.
Six.
Yeah.
That's it.
That's it.
I'm good on six hours.
You know,
but it's got to be six solid hours of sleep.
You know what I mean?
When I train the way I train,
I go to bed by 11 o'clock and I'm up at 430 or 5,
but I was unconscious.
It's all REM sleep and I wake up feeling good.
You know, I can sleep for 10 hours,
but get spotty sleep and wake up feeling like shit.
You know, so six solid hours of sleep,
hydrated. I take tons of salt. Salt is a really big thing that people underestimate
for rehydration and even for performance. You know, like every single time you exercise,
you burn an entire teaspoon of salt, okay, which is 2,000 milligrams of salt. Every time you
have a cup of coffee, you burn about 500 milligrams of salt. So like people are at about a 5,000
milligram deficiency of salt every day. And salt actually helps you rehydrate. Doesn't
dehydrate you, doesn't raise your cholesterol,
doesn't raise your blood pressure, it's all bullshit.
Salt is what your body acts. It's a mineral
that needs your body to actually
hold water.
So a lot of people don't eat enough salt,
then they don't realize.
That's right. There you go.
But it's really weird, even
with, like, liquid IV
is a sponsor. Yeah. And that's
got sodium in it. It's got sodium in it. And
a little heavy on the sodium.
I didn't know why. People were like,
it's got sodium in it, whatever. And now I
get it.
Yeah.
If you look at, like, look at people that run like ultra-marathons or even,
even regular marathons, you know, they're taking salt pills during that time.
When you sweat, you're not sweating water.
You're sweating salt, minerals, magnesium, shit that your body needs.
So especially when you have an active lifestyle, you need to take a lot more salt than you
actually would think is healthy.
You know, I'm somewhere between five and seven additional on top of what regular food has in
it and shit.
I'm somewhere between five and seven thousand milligrams of salt on top of that a day.
which is what I'm losing during
jiu-jitsu the gym and
coffee I do drink a fair amount of coffee
a lot of stretching in your world
that's probably the one thing
that I've been trying so hard for years to do
that I just fucking hate doing
so stretching for me is like every time I get injured
I'm like it's because I don't stretch enough
I'm 41 and every time I get injured I'm like
that's it once I start feeling better I'm going to stretch again
and I sign up for yoga classes and shit that I never go to
because to me it's I hate stretching it's boring
It's boring.
It's boring.
I can train Jiu-Jitoo 10 hours a day
and I'll be happy as can be.
And to me, stretching is like a flow roll for one round.
That's stretching.
You know, I'm loosened up now.
Now we can kill each other.
You know, but if you tell me to take 10 minutes
and go sit in the corner and, like, touch my toes and shit,
that 10 minutes feels like, it's like,
it's like getting sent to the principal's office.
I'm like, I don't want to do the shit.
I tell you, at nights I've been into stretching.
At night, right before I go to bed,
I'll turn the TV off for like a half hour before.
I'll do a couple of fucking downward dogs.
I'll do a couple warrior poses for my shoulder
just to stretch out and open my chest.
I'll mix the breathing with it.
And then I'll, the other thing I do is
I saw online that some guys, like if you have knee problems,
get a fucking Olympic bar and put it on your calf and roll it.
Oh, yeah.
Right above the knee.
So I get the gun, I do that.
And I got the roller.
And that's a fucking workout.
Yeah.
You got on a roller.
When I finished 10 minutes of the roller,
you burn like 100 calories.
You're picking yourself.
up, you're rolling, you're like, what the, why am I breathing so heavy?
I'm fucking, then your shirt gets caught in the roller.
You try to get your back and you're choking yourself.
Now you're choking yourself.
It's a fucking nightmare, but I do it.
And that's why also, what I was talking about were whoop, they give you a countdown.
And I'm like, why do they give you this countdown?
Do you have an animal in the room sleeping with you?
All these little fucking things, like there's somebody in the bed with you?
Oh, yeah.
Did you sleep alone?
They ask you all these things.
And it really, like, made me fucking think about it.
But the two things they ask you, they don't ask you if you worked out.
They asked you if you stretched.
It was stretching.
And if there was breath work.
Yeah.
And you set those, right?
Because you tell them in the beginning, like, the things that you do.
Then they ask you if you did the things you told them that you do, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
So you do those.
I didn't know what breathwork really was.
I would just live.
I didn't either.
I really thought breathwork was like she was going to sit me in a nice chair and play some of that,
like, hippie music and shit, right?
And be like, take a nice deal.
breath up to three and then exhale yeah wait till i take you you're gonna you're gonna have a
half of a heart attack but i'm telling you it's insane i have a heart attack with the app it's
the app got some shit like the app will give you breathwork what does it call breathwork yeah
it'll give you some exercises and then it'll give you especially in the mornings that's when i need
my breath work so i'll sit there in front of the computer i'll stand sometimes like in north
carolina i stood it was really nice i could see the computer what they were saying but
But they have things that you have to switch and fucking.
But there's some breathing workouts to like seven minutes long.
Holy fuck.
There's a black dude on there, Terrell, that teaches a couple classes.
That fucking dude will put you in another world, man.
I love breathwork now.
It's amazing.
And it's helped me.
It's amazing.
I noticed it two weeks ago in Jiu-Jitsu.
That when I was passing a guard, I was more...
Listen, when you're out of breath, you can't focus.
Well, that's the whole sympathetic, parasympathetic nervous system.
That's 100% right.
And ironically, when you get nervous, you stop breathing even more.
When you get nervous, you should breathe, right?
But human instinct is when you get nervous, you tighten up and you make it even worse on yourself.
But I tell you what else is bad, the underlying anxiety.
When I go to a gym, you know, especially with my knee or something, I get anxiety.
As soon as my knee does something, I don't like, that's it.
I'm on a different edge.
Okay.
I feel everything open up because now I don't know.
what's going on in my knee.
Am I going to collapse?
Is this knee going to fucking just wilt?
I don't know what's going to happen.
Even with Jiu-Jitsu, I can't lie to it.
When I walk into Jiu-Jitsu, my anxiety level is fucking high.
And at Hollis, they have stairs.
Okay.
Yeah, it's upstairs, right?
It's fucking crazy.
I go upstairs, but not breathing.
I go up Hollis' stairs.
When I get to the top, I got to pee, I got to take my belt off.
I'm breathing.
That's the anxiety.
That was the anxiety holding me down.
because if I have anxiety on the mat
when we do warm-ups,
it's a fucking night, man.
Oh, for sure.
But as soon as I go
and I feel comfortable,
the windows, everything's all right,
then I can breathe for fucking...
And knowing that breathwork fixes that shit,
which it does...
For me, at least,
I'm going to speak for myself.
Breathwork for me helps me with anxiety big time.
I was somebody that had to carry around Xanax all the time.
But the cool thing about taking...
Not the cool thing,
but when you take Xanax,
the cool thing is when you have anxiety
and you have Xanax on you,
you don't get anxiety as much
because you know that you have the solution
to
it in your pocket. You're like, well, if I do get anxiety, I could take this and feel better,
even though it's not what you want to be doing. Well, I still have that. It's just I don't need
the Xanax anymore. I know if I'm going to get anxious or have the borderline panic attack or whatever,
I could stop what I'm doing, go shit somewhere, do breathwork for five, 10 minutes and get myself
back to where I'm feeling great and normal again. You know, I never did Xant, like as a kid
and all that. You do Xanax when you do blow. People give you fucking Xanax on the street
when you do blow.
And then, I don't know, over the years,
I'm more of a speedier guy.
Like, I like, you know, I like cocaine.
We all like cocaine, so.
I never tried it.
I was never, you know, I like, I like Kwayludes.
I like Kwayludes, but what I'm trying to say is I was never a downer type of guy.
Right. Same.
Like kids, when I was a kid, people would show up with all these pills.
I was never really a downer type of guy.
Pain, no.
Not same.
When I was a kid, I tried Kodin.
I got a twist of my ankle.
they gave me codeine.
I puked for a week,
so that was the end of that.
Vikenans make you feel kind of weird.
I'll tell you what,
if I was going to a Dodger game,
I would ask my buddy to bring me two Vikings,
and I'd pop them at the Dodger game
and sit there in heaven.
But I would go to a Dodger game once a year,
so it's not bad.
I don't feel guilty about it.
But Xanax, I had a prescription since 2010,
and I would take them periodically
because you can't take Xanax
when you have sleep apnea.
You can't take the fucking
strong ones. You can take the ones to control
anxiety, but they don't do shit.
No, they don't put you to sleep or anything.
Bro, you know, I have a high tolerance
for a lot of shit. Like, if I get
sick and I do penicillin, like I get a
penicillin shot, you're going to have to come back
the next thing, give me another penicillin shot.
Really? Wow.
Since I'm a kid, all that shit works
a little backwards on me.
So when the pandemic started, a little bit before
the pandemic was when I started, the
night after I tried to follow
Holly, the
Girl, that's a writer.
And I got such a bad anxiety attack that I blacked out on stage for 12 minutes.
Think of walking on stage in front of 200 people at the world famous coffee store.
Your heart's beating.
I couldn't see.
And I kept looking to the window on the side.
They boarded it up at the main room.
When I would be in the original room, I could always look to the side and see the traffic on sunset,
see the door guys.
When they boarded that up, dog, I went into a fucking state of panic and I woke up.
12 minutes into the set, and they were fucking on the floor.
Like, I had shot them.
People were just laughing.
I'm like, what are you laughing about?
My anxiety?
Are you laughing?
Yeah, I could laugh at me having anxiety attack.
But obviously, I just went from muscle memory.
Right.
And I was just killing them.
And I just woke up on stage, like, okay, thank you.
And I ran the fuck out, and I caught over.
No, it's so worst feeling ever.
I've been there.
It's so worst feeling ever.
That was it.
So I started taking it.
And I would put the Xanax in my pocket, the little football.
Yeah, yeah.
And then I kept going to.
store, but somebody would give me a joint, and then you forget to take the Zanix.
So I realized that my wife was washing the Xanax.
I was putting the, I was putting the Xanax in my top pocket.
But once a pandemic hit, I couldn't stop taking fucking Zanix.
Yeah, I mean, listen, they help.
They do it.
When you have anxiety, they help.
They help for a while.
And then they feed into it.
Well, yeah.
Because I mean, you become dependent on it.
Of course.
No.
It wasn't even the dependence.
When I moved to New Jersey, if you told me,
come over to my house, I would take a Xanax.
And by the time I got the
house, I'd have to take another football.
Because you were still, like, anxious.
Okay. It was social anxiety.
So it was social. It was a bunch.
It was just the COVID fear.
It was the COVID fear mixed with anxiety,
which is not fucking good.
No, believe me, I've been there before every competition.
And still, to this day, I mean, I've competed a million
times, I still, for the
10 minutes before I actually walk out and compete,
my fucking vision goes black,
I'm sweating, and in my head, I'm like, why the
fuck do I keep doing this to myself every time.
I'm like a masochist and torture myself every month with this shit.
Not in the league of competitions that you're at, obviously.
You're at it to the world this weekend.
But in local competitions, is that a two elimination?
It depends on the competition.
Here's my problem.
I'm going to get anxiety on the first match.
I go up against a blind guy and I'm going to lose.
My first match and a competition, I'm going to lose.
I know that.
It's the type of person I am.
But you can't look at it that way.
Your first match, you're going to win
because you're going to do the first match.
That's winning.
Okay, yes.
You know what I'm saying?
No, in the long run, you win.
But what I'm saying is,
even when I, like, went to, as a kid, karate tournaments,
you would always get two points on me.
A motherfucker would always get two points on me.
And then my Cubanism, my New Yorkism will come out
and I kick you in the stomach and I win.
So I get to qualify.
I would lose my mind and kick above the...
Because when I was in karate, it was just...
Belt and neck.
Because you couldn't kick above the thing.
I'd kick him in the head with a spinning back kick or something.
But then that's the type.
Like, you have to smack me once.
When I play basketball, yeah.
You have to put eight points on me up.
Okay, motherfucker.
That's what I want to do.
Let's rock.
I'm one of those guys.
Right.
So the first competition I would do, it had to be double elimination.
Because I'm just going into the first time to hold on.
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of places around Robin.
You're guaranteed three matches.
Three matches.
You know, there's one actually, NJB, J,JF, which is like New Jersey, Brazilian
Jitsu.
It's right in, I think it's at CBA or like one of these local colleges.
And that is like the perfect, this is my first competition competition.
It's round robin, you're guaranteed two or three matches.
It's generally a lot of people's first competition.
The chances are you're going against somebody that's their first competition too.
And you just get the experience.
And I can pull guard.
You can pull guard.
You could full guard.
Because I'm not going to be throwing.
I'm not the guy that's going to talk you out of pulling guard.
I play guard.
There's these people out here that say, if you, you know, if you play guard, you don't get into Valhalla.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not one of those guys.
You know, once my knees went and I couldn't shoot anymore, I'm a guard player.
So listen, what are you doing this weekend, the world?
Yeah, I got, well, Masters World's in Vegas.
And this is the biggest tournament for Jiu-Jitsu?
Because I don't know.
This is the biggest game tournament for Masters.
So, I mean, the biggest tournament in Jiu-Jitsu is adult ghee worlds.
This is Masters' Geh Worlds for everyone over 30.
And then I have in October no-gee pans, which I won last year.
And then in December, no-gee worlds, which I won last year.
They didn't have Masters Worlds or pans last year because of COVID in the ghee.
So I only got to compete in no-gey.
This year they had all of them.
And I took second in ghee pans in, I think it was April,
and ended up breaking my ribs, like I told you,
in the 30 seconds left in the finals, and I couldn't finish the match.
So that kind of got me.
And the guy that I lost to was in my bracket in this one.
So I hope I get him again, get a little chance of redemption, you know.
It's pretty interesting that, you know, 10 years ago, obviously, 15 years ago before the Jiu-Jitsu revolution,
it was basically for just athletes, you know, nobody who was non-athletic,
who was not athletic, were walking to a Jiu-Jitsu place.
And now Jiu-Jitsu has grown so much that you see all shapes and sizes, and it fucking inspires the shit.
And the coolest part is some of the very, very, very, very, very big.
best guys, like Mikey Musa Mejee, for example, who by the way, is extremely athletic.
But I just mean, by looking at him, is not someone you would consider like, oh, this kid's a jock.
This kid's a specimen.
Look at him.
You know what I mean?
He's this big.
And he's hands down one of the best ever, ever to live in the sport.
He's amazing.
But it's just so weird how I could go online now and look up jihitoo for a 50-year-old.
Oh, yeah.
Jitoo for a 60-year-old.
One of the benefits, one of the, it's all there.
And I'm seeing it, like, when I left L.A., there was one other old guy in my school, in the whole school.
And I would try to go into role with him.
He finally came to when he was like, we got to get each other's number because I'm defeating the purpose.
I'm coming in here to fight these 20-year-olds, and they're not, they're just shutting me down, you know.
And now they have so many things available for over 40.
Like, I just went to class Sunday, and they signed two other older guys.
And I went up to him, gave him a hug, and said, you know, just keep you.
Keep coming.
Yeah.
You know, there was a girl that joined that she was so big.
She couldn't put jih Tzu pants on.
I saw her Saturday.
She's wearing geek pants.
Yeah, and wait a year from now.
Sunday, you know.
Forget it.
And, you know, it's like go at your own pace.
You don't need to be scared no more.
Nobody's going to choke you.
None of those schools want that reputation.
No.
They don't want the reputation that if Mikey comes in,
he's been a guitar player all his life and he comes in here,
they're not going to break your fucking fingers.
You know, that's what.
And look at all the people and entertainment.
into doing jujitsu.
When you talk to Ricky Rocket from Poison,
like I knew Ricky, like,
from Eddie Brahma, like Eddie, Joey,
this Ricky, how are he doing?
I never knew the guy.
Then one day I went to an airport,
and there he was.
And we were both on the same flight,
and we got stuck for fucking eight hours.
So I started talking to him.
We started talking to me,
and I'm like, this guy's not even a rock star.
You've seen what's his name from Tool
when he's on Rogan.
He don't even look like a fucking rock star.
He loves Jiu-Jitsu.
more than fucking
he loves Jiu-Jitsu
and this guy
I remember when I talk to Ricky
I go Ricky you're excited about this
tour and he's like I don't know
I can't do my privates
that's what he was concerned about
not that he was going to make millions of dollars
not that he's going to make millions of dollars
it changes you
it changes you
and there's days like I tell you what burns me up
the most there's days like I have
a plan like you know what I'm going to do this
I got to make these calls I got to write this
submit it and then I'm going to catch a quick
45 minute jujitsu class
Like a couple weeks ago,
I fucking had an appointment at Draft Kings
like a conference call
and I fucking didn't go to class
and then they called me at like
fucking 11 and said
we don't push the meeting back.
Dog, I get more furious at that.
I couldn't go to class.
I miss jitzy because you.
Because you fucking push the meeting back,
you motherfucker.
Like that fucking bothers me to death now.
Like, so it's, it's been completely.
different from me.
And after I met you,
I really started thinking
about what I wanted to do.
Like how I wanted to do this.
You know, I'm going to lose weight.
I'm going to go down to $2.50.
I put some weight on last week
on the fucking vacation.
It was scary.
That's right.
It's cumulative.
It's not week by week.
It's what happens at the end of the year.
Listen, man, where I was and where I am,
it's two different fucking stories.
And now I want to,
this is what I want to do.
I'm happy.
I'm not doing comedy as much as I am anymore.
You're not very fun.
No, that was, not anymore.
I really am not.
It's so weird how I get my moments of being funny, but I'm not like my mind isn't dancing more.
I'm in New Jersey now.
I got beautiful people around me, you know?
It's like, it's like I still like going on stage, but I'd much rather go to jitual
class.
That's awesome.
Three, four days a week, you know.
I'm getting to an age now.
I'm six months away from being 60.
And I saw Hollis today when I trained, and he goes, you really like it.
And I go, you know why?
If I was in another school, like in L.A., I couldn't go there anymore.
They would just kill me.
You know, Borough and all those schools.
Alberto Crane's got a great school.
But here, I could go to this school until I'm 70.
I could just tell.
I could go there until I'm 70.
Because there's a guy that's in the 60s that goes here twice a week.
Cue this old man in the world.
He doesn't run.
He just does little slides for his warm-ups.
We play sometimes, me and him.
I go, wait a fuck.
He goes,
I'm my wife
won't let me out of the house.
There was a 70-year-old guy
that got a stroke during class
and came back two days later.
He's got the itch.
He was a Vietnam vet,
a fucking military guy,
and he joined there
about a year ago.
I haven't seen him.
Because I think he moved.
He moved to another school now.
But he was fucking 70.
He went in there one day.
He got a stroke.
He came back two days later.
So listen, man,
we don't want you in class.
Like, you don't understand.
Yeah, I need this.
I know.
eat this shit.
I got nothing.
That's what happens.
You either come in and you get obsessed to where it consumes your life.
You know what I mean?
Like people become drug addicts.
It's the same fucking addiction.
You know, it's just a more healthy addiction, you know?
But people either come in and they get obsessed or they just fade out real quick.
You know, there's really not middle ground.
It's like, oh, this is okay.
I kind of have fun.
I'll go once a week and see how it happens.
You either go in and you're like, this is a coolest shit I've ever done or you come in
and like, this guy just sweat in my fucking eye and my mouth.
And he had his balls in my face.
And I don't think I'm, I don't think this is for me.
You know?
For me, that sounds like a glorious day, right?
Let me tell you something, man.
You know, I don't understand how to say, listen, let's be honest with ourselves.
December, whatever, July 16th, when I first got on stage for the first time,
I had a three-minute set.
I'm not going to lie to anybody.
In my mind, I thought I sucked.
You know, the first time I got on stage, I'm like,
But I did have something.
I had a presence, you know.
I had something going for me.
Okay, we could build on it.
You're not the funniest guy in the world,
but we can build on this, okay?
When I walked off the set that day,
I remember looking at my wife at the time
and going, I got to get rid of this chair.
Like, right, the first time I got on stage.
Is it because she didn't laugh at your jokes?
It's just, I wanted to be a fucking,
I knew right there.
It's the weirdest feeling that you do something one time.
I get your 15 fucking jobs.
I get your job tomorrow as a chef at the best restaurant.
Let's go to Cousins, okay?
I get your job at Cousins, okay?
After the first day, you're going to go, you know what?
I don't know, Joey.
Not for me.
It's either for me.
I like the food.
You know, I like cooking, but it's not for me.
I got on stage and pretty much bombed the first time.
I knew I had presents just by their faces, how I walked up.
When I got off the stage, I knew that, like, my roofing career,
we're fucking done.
My salesman career was fucking done
And this chick I'm married to who I love
She got to go
Because she's standing in my way
Of me doing what the fuck I want to do
Here's the difference with Jiu-Jitsu
First time I walked into Jiu-Jitsu
I got choked
I got thrown around
I had to run and pee outside
Take my top off the first time somebody mounted me
I was still hooked
Yeah of course
How can you be hooked on something like you don't even have
An aptitude
because I think it's easy, especially when you're in a class with some talented athletes,
I think it's easy to observe what's actually possible, right?
Then you talk to some people and you're like, how long you've been training?
Like, I've been training for a year.
I've been training for two years.
But those people all suck too, sometimes worse than you.
So when you see what everyone else has done, they all started in the same place.
You're like, okay, if I just, I know it sounds tacky because this is what everyone says,
but if I just keep showing up, eventually I'll be that good,
and then eventually I'll be that good, and I'm going to keep getting better.
This is the fucking lesson of the day.
Keep showing the fuck up.
You're going to suck.
That's applicable to anything like.
Anything like.
Any fucking thing.
Keep doing it.
And I think for me, going back to Jitsu, it was the lesson I learned from stand-up comedy.
Listen, and it's like anything else in life.
You know, I could tell you, Mike, guess what?
I got a guitar.
And I know how to play cocaine.
And you're like, okay.
You know, when you're in a band and somebody comes up to you and I learn how to play tiptoe through the tulips, you're like, okay, keep going.
Keep going.
Good for you.
You know what I'm saying?
Bad eye.
It's like if I come to you,
you're not going to believe it.
I joined Jiu-Jitsu.
The first day I choked out a guy.
You're like, okay, that's great.
You know, let's see if it happens
the second fucking day.
Let's see if you go back for second day.
You got beginners luck, you know.
Gambling.
You ever gamble at a fucking casino?
You'll always win the first time.
You'll fucking win $8,000 until the next day
and you lose $20,000.
But with Jiu-Jitsu, I was hooked even though I sucked at it.
Like, I knew this is what I wanted to do.
I don't care what I have to do.
If the devil comes to me tomorrow
and says you want to be a black belt
and jih Tzu and compete
and be the best jih Tzu.
I would do that before anything else.
Like I would do that.
I would sell my soul
to just be able to hang out on the mats.
But I won't sell my soul
because I see guys that are brown belts
and they do what we do effortlessly.
I can't wait until you come to watch me do stand up the first time.
I can't wait either.
You're going to go, bro,
you just went up there and did this, and it looked like so easy.
It's like when I watch Hollis Gracie Roe, he don't do nothing.
He doesn't even agree with him.
He just puts his hand, does something, and you're like,
think of it this way for him.
Like if you're taking a test, like a multiple choice test,
and you just have every single answer before you even got the test,
you already know what all the answers are.
That's how he sees Jiu-Jitsu and he rolls.
Like anything you're doing, he knows exactly what you're going to do.
He knows what you're going to do to defend it,
which we talked about, you know what I mean?
mean. And when you already know what your opponent's going to do before they do it, you don't
really have to work too hard, you know? If I tell you like, Joey, in three seconds, I'm going to
punch you in the face. Block it. You count the three and you fucking block it, right? That's how
they see everything. As soon as they see you move your hips a certain way, open your guard a certain
way, he knows exactly what you're going to do. You know, it's just been doing it for his whole
life. It's second nature. Just like comedy, second nature to you.
Second nature to me. That's it. So I finally got, like, I'm a black belt in comedy. I'm a black belt
with a couple of those red stripes.
Yeah.
Like a coral belt.
Coral belt.
There you go.
Because you get those every three years while you're a black belt.
You get your first three every three years.
Every three years.
Every three years.
Then you go to Coral belt.
Wow.
So yeah, I'm like a Coral belt.
I could go up there and just see the game.
When people talk to me about their stand-up, like on Patreon, I don't have to watch
their set.
I know.
How long have you been doing comedy?
Two years.
I know where you're at.
I pretty much know where you're at.
You're just getting it together.
You might be really really.
good. In your mind, you think you're better.
You think you're rather to hang out with Rogan
and Chappelle, but you're really not.
You're really not. You're going to go there
and try it one time. I know you.
And you're going to come back with
not the result you want. And then you'll start
to stay in your lane more. And we all do that.
With Jujitsu, I'm going to go over there and train with
Henzel. Really? Wait until he throws you out
the fucking window. There's definitely
levels to the game, you know?
So your first match is Friday night.
I don't know what time on Friday yet.
We don't know yet. My first match is Friday.
But the whole weekend will be on flow grappling.
The whole weekend, I'm flow grappling.
So I want people at home, if you have a flow grappling account,
a lot of jih Tijuana people watch this podcast, support my man Rob Schaefer,
and we'll be fucking cheering for you here.
Thank you, brother.
I appreciate it.
And when you come back with the title, without the title,
you're still coming back here again to let us know about your experiences.
I'm looking forward to it, brother.
Can't wait.
I also want to start doing some type of videos with you to help people like, you know,
If you want to video our lessons, you can video them.
I think that'd be great because I love the fact that people of all aspects of all walks of life can do jihitsu.
And I think people that don't do it don't realize that.
You know what I mean?
There's a million people that are like, oh, you train jihitsu, you're in great shape.
I'm not in great shape so I can never do that.
You know what I mean?
So I think it'd be great to bring more notice.
I was going to quit jihitsu.
But then I said, okay, I have a problem with my knee.
I could tap the fuck out on a lot of things on this.
But then I thought about one of the greatest
fucking black belts we have in the world
today, which is John Jack Machado.
And John Jack has a disability
with his hands. He can't really grab.
So I thought about him, and he just
has to work, you know, I've never
spoken to him about it, but I know, like, I've
asked some of his students, and they go, he's
brilliant, and he works his way around it.
And that's what made me go back to Jitsu.
Yeah, I got one knee down, but I still got
three motherfuckers. And now you have a great half card,
right? And I got a great half card,
and I can put my weight on you, to your eyeballs pop
out.
I can vouch for that.
Honestly to God, I have a great time
going.
And let me tell you what the main
reason about going to Jiu-Jitsu is, guys.
To grow as a human
being, you've got to surround yourself with
fucking champions, man.
Honest to God.
The only way to sharpen metal
is metal.
Metal sharpens fucking metal.
And for me, comedy,
I learned from a lot of great people,
from Rogan, a lot of great people in my life.
But with Jiu-Jitsu,
man, you take a little piece
from everybody in that class
every day. Somebody gives you something.
They're the most interesting people
in the fucking world. Honest to God.
And you know I'm a boring fuck like
with people. These jih Tzu people,
man, I go to my class. There's a Cuban kid.
There's a Chinese kid. There's a black
dude who was a fucking
wrestler with Chris Weidman.
He was in the same team as Chris Weidman.
So I fuck around with him because he's a white, white belt.
Right. But he's a good wrestler. Oh my God.
So he's not a white belt.
No, the shit he does.
But you all right.
I don't have anywhere where they could follow you, what you do?
My Instagram is Rob Schaefer underscore BJJ, but truth be told, I don't really, not one of
these people that share all my workouts and stuff.
I'm 41, so I kind of came from that, like, old school thing where I, I keep, I don't, I'm
private, I'm private, you know.
I don't want people to see me get choked out.
But if it helps you come to the school, yeah, absolutely.
Because you're going to live, you're going to get choked out for 20 days, and then one day
you're going to figure out how to make it, make it choked out anymore.
And if you're 50 and 16, you're just sitting there on the fucking couch, come on guys.
go to a class twice a fucking week
twice a week will change your life
just going to eat with different people
just talking about what people do with vitamins
it's mind boggles
and you'd just be surprised at friendships that you make
because unlike some other sports
I personally, I'm not saying this from a bias point of view
but I think in jiu jitsu there's
a bigger camaraderie than any other sport I played
hockey I wrestled my whole life you know I've been in other sports
and I love sports there's always a brotherhood
in the locker rooms and shit
nothing like jiu jihitsu
And now at this point, anything that I do in life, you know, if I'm putting a new bathroom in my house, if I get arrested and I need a lawyer, I go to the room, there's lawyers, there's doctors, there's fucking plumbers, there's carpenters, you know, I got everything you can ever ask for.
So that's why everyone laughs like, oh, how come you never come out anymore to my older group of friends, which I still love very much.
I just don't have anything in common anymore.
As I want to do is talk about jihitsu with people, you know?
They don't want to talk about JidC.
If you don't know about ADCC in two weeks, we have nothing to talk about.
Nothing that's what I'm talking about.
But Rob, I wish you all the luck this week.
Thank you, brother.
I appreciate you, man.
Thank you for coming on.
I love you guys with all my heart.
Have a happy fucking Labor Day.
We'll be back fucking Monday with a podcast,
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