The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #215 - Joey Diaz, John Evans, Dr. Joel Crandall and Lee Syatt

Episode Date: September 22, 2014

Jiu Jitsu Coach John Evans joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt in studio with a special call from Dr. Joel Crandall. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at che...ckout. Hulu Plus. Visit Huluplus.com/joey for an extended free trial. Dollar Shave Club. Use promo code CHURCH and get high quality razors sent to your door. HITecigs.com For a better tasting, longer lasting e cig go to HITecigs.com. Use Promo code joeyschurch for a 20% discount Music:  Check Yo Self -Ice Cube I Wanna Be Around - Tony Bennet Cemetary Gates -Pantera Recorded on 09/21/2014

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Starting point is 00:01:18 So come home in the dickety-jack yourself before you wreck yourself, you filthy fucks. Get up. Watch that muffler. It's a beautiful day to be alive. Jesus is on your shoulder. Oh shit. Saying what? What is he doing?
Starting point is 00:01:32 He's saying, get up. Take your dick out. If you leave it out there long enough, somebody will suck it. Let's do this shit. You better check yourself or you wreck yourself because I'm bad for your health. I come real stealth, dropping bond for your mouth. Oh, fuck, call on. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Wiggle funkled for Joey Lee. Oh, shit, little wiggle. Oh, shit. And friends know we got that endo. No, I'm not a sucker. Sitting in a house of pain. Look at Lee's getting all excited. I'll touch you.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You say you can't touch this. I wouldn't touch you. My motherfucker fuck. What? What? What? What? What? What's going on, baby?
Starting point is 00:02:06 Nothing. I've had a fun weekend. I know. You had the girlfriend. You tied her up. What are you going to do? You have to. You have any bastard. You love her, that shit. Yeah. She loves you too. I can see you guys have a nice time. You're meant for each other. It's fun. We were talking and we almost... Almost eloped?
Starting point is 00:02:21 No, no, God. My mom would be on the next flight out with a gun. You'd be out of the will. Oh, yeah. Your moms don't fuck around. There's no will, but we were going to do something. We were like sitting around. the house and we didn't really have anything to do and we're like why don't we drive to
Starting point is 00:02:38 Vegas why don't we drive to San Francisco we almost did it and then we both looked at each other we're like we like we like doing this and she was asleep by like 11 o'clock 10 30 on Friday night Saturday we met what's came inside your shows it's just uh you get some breakfast you going to the gym yeah we would go to the gym together it's uh fun you should ride a little bike and drive around fucking Hollywood and I tried to get a bike and you broke it down for me for me for like 20 minutes you wanted a bike by yourself to put a helmet on to on fucking Burbank Boulevard, they'll kill you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I'm talking about a bike when you and her get together on the same bike when you go to a park. A tandem bicycle? Yeah, and you ride around with little helmets on and you feed the ducks. If I had a tandem bicycle, like I feel like you would have a Joey sense. I would just buzz and you'd call me.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Be like getting off that cock sucker and hang up. I'd probably hit you with the fucking call if I saw you. Have you seen anyone on a tandem bike? I see some fucking people doing some weird shit up here. There's a guy in this area that has a bicycle that you sit down in? The recumbin bike, yeah. Did you see those?
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah, we were together one day when he came up. That fucking mutt. There's like two or three of them. They follow each other. They get in the middle lane. I don't see the purpose for that, but maybe they don't see the purpose on why people do jumping jacks. No. I had a beautiful weekend.
Starting point is 00:03:47 You did. With the family, the baby, the wife. Brea was great. You know, the shows are great. You know, tried some new material. Some of it failed. Some of it did good. Shows were fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:59 That's all I could ask for. You know, I got to work on my knee, the swelling. is going down. That's good. How long has it been since the surgery? It's going to be a month on Tuesday. And what is the normal recovery time? You know, everybody's different. I bet if I was 22, it would be five weeks. You know, I'm 51.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I don't know. I don't know. I'm doing everything I can. I'm doing everything by the book. I went to a couple different web pages. I spoke to it. Well, I know it's a different level, but whenever like a football player does his ACL, they're like, oh, he's gone for the year. So, I mean, I know you're not getting to football playing shape, but it seems like
Starting point is 00:04:31 it would take a little bit longer. Well, it's time. It's just time. My main man is here today. Mr. John Evan, Jiu-Jitsu fucking Savage. My coach, my life coach, my everything coach. What's happening, brother? Not much, man.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Thanks for having me. No. You know, it's funny because I've known you for like two years. And one of your friends, well, he said he was a friend. He said he hadn't seen you in a while. So he trained a five-star. That's the name of it, five-star. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:55 And he goes, that's really nice that you had him on the show. And I watch his BJJ Breakdown. Have you ever seen? I go, no, I watched his videos, but I didn't know he broke stuff. down. So I went on there, and it was just great, and you're funny. I thought it was funny. You were like, you know, it's different, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And just, I think I watched, who did I watch two of them? But one guy is, fuck, now I can't. I was going to write it down, I forgot. But you had a guy that won something, and he went up against another purple belt, and he did a tremendous move. Like he swept him, but he put his leg under him. I'm, fuck, I'm terrible. I saw a move today, like one of those gifts,
Starting point is 00:05:33 They put on Facebook and stuff. It was like a jujitsu guy like running and jumping into somebody and rolling and like ended up tapping him. Does that ever happen? Or was that just like a demonstration? No, that can happen for sure. He just ran and jumped and took the guy off his feet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It was crazy. I think we had an instruction on there yesterday could bring you in his son. Oh, yes. A sweep from the leg. The double underspeze? Yeah. To the back take. Right, yeah, for the backtake.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Beautiful stuff. Pretty fucking pretty intense, man. Those guys are... I didn't even know Cabrini had a 17-year-old. Yeah, I know, I know, and he's really good. He came when he had... Cabrini brought him up to his gym to train with us when he was brand new.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Like, he didn't know anything about Jiu-Jitsu, and he was not good. But obviously, he's a beginner. And just the difference in the last... I mean, he hasn't even been training that long, just maybe two years, something like that. He is really good. Like, a very good...
Starting point is 00:06:32 very good purple belt level and he's just a blue belt and he's only 17 so uh i mean that kid's gonna be he's probably gonna be a world champ one day he's super super good and so man what a mistake that we didn't get into this when we were 10 oh i know i know christ christ it's such a great sport now it's growing leaps and bounds you know and i'll tell you what i'm pretty bored with the ufc right now at this point in my life like i like to see a couple fights but it wasn't what it used to for me like It's not like I was really excited about seeing Joe Lozahn. I'm excited about seeing Cornere. I'm excited about seeing Yo Romero next week is fighting Tim Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Oh, yeah? That's a great fucking fight, you know. But I really, I'm really, every night I go home and some nights my wife's not in the room and I'll put the computer on, I just watch, like, jit-sue, like regular. And that's what I really liked about your BJJ breakdown, that it's just, Amateurs, pretty much. The guy I saw was a purple belt against another purple belt, which was very interesting to watch because everybody always wants to see champions.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I think it's a great idea for a TV show, something late night. You know, here we are in Pennsylvania. You know, like just go to every week there's tournaments everywhere. And all you need is like five little guys. I think it's a great idea. I loved it, John. That's why you're here tonight. I was blown the fuck away.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I'm like, this is a great idea. What the hell is a matter of you? What are you giving me the evil life for? I'm not, no, it's just... Did you give me the fucking Jew eye? What's going on? Well, I got to give you the Juai every once in a while. I feel like you have a dollar falling out of your pocket.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I do. But it's amazing. Like, I get a lot of people, even today. Someone's like, when are you going to do Jit-Too? And I've been working out recently. And I did, I wrestled in high school, and I did Taekwondo as a little kid. So I have a little bit of martial arts back, but nothing that I would remember. But it still, it seems a little bit too much for me.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like, I feel like I need to lose my. more weight, which I know I don't, but it's like you get in your own head. But it is amazing how the only introduction I have, the only thing I can relate to the Jiu-Jitsu is the UFC, and I've met Eddie Bravo a few times, and I see some of these videos of people bending their legs and doing stuff that I know I can't do. So it would be kind of cool to have like a white belt who looks like me and just like doing, doing like the, what did you call them when you did it across the room, the hip, something? Hip escapes.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Hip escapes. That would be kind of fun. Listen, Lee, just think of it this way. If I was 26 and I had an opportunity to join Jiu-Jitsu tomorrow, I would because I know by the time I'm 40, I'd be a black belt. Even if you lose the weight, it takes you one year, maybe 18 months, you're a young man. Even if it takes you two years to catch up to everybody, because you're going to get thrown a lot of stuff in Jiu-Jitsu,
Starting point is 00:09:23 and you're not going to understand. And one day it really does hit you. You really, I have to learn more in the last couple weeks from not doing it. And just thinking, and oh, my God, that move is supposed to be a quick move. You're not supposed to sit there. It's supposed to be a one, two, three, bam. You know, it's just very interesting. It keeps my mind sharp, which I like.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I like doing something that's out of my... Something. Come around, man. Yeah, not even comfort. Something, when I go to jih Tzu, we don't talk about comedy. We don't talk about podcasting. We don't talk about agents. We don't talk about did you see the latest movie.
Starting point is 00:09:59 So what else is that to talk about? Jiu-jitsu. You know, it's good for me. It's an outlet for somebody like me that's involved in this shit, and I get frustrations like everybody else, you know. I can't imagine someone like, John. John is a coach, you know, he's a competitor. He's got no other fucking outlet.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Like, what's he going to do? Come to the comedy club and get on stage. Do you know what I'm saying? No, I'm just teasing you. But for me, that's what it is. And I would use anything like that, even if karate, if there was a karate class, and I could go twice a week where nobody would ask me about the podcast.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Nobody would ask me about anything. People just come up to me and say, Joe, you got to work on your front kick. Or Joe, you got to work on your guard. That's great for a guy like me. Yeah, I wish I, the quitting Taekwondo was a bad choice. I was like, I don't think I was even in middle school yet, and I was a red belt because I'd been doing it for years.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And the biggest trophy I ever won was, like, yellow belt forms. I got first place. And I was so I had it until I was like 22 at my mom's house until she finally moved. It was taller than me the day they, it was taller than me the day I wanted. It was like your first grade or something crazy like that. John, tell me your story. How you got into jih Tjitsu? You didn't get into jih Tjitsu and no, you know, I was, I'm still heavy, but you got in after an accident, correct?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Yes. Yeah, I mean, I did karate for a while when I was a kid in taekwondo. And it's surprising. people are pretty quick to shun those traditional martial arts because they're, you know, they don't see them as being valid, especially up until recently in the UFC when Machita started using Shodokan, karate, and now we see like people like George St. Pierre, they control the distance very well. But so I think, honestly, those help me a lot, like especially the taekwondo with the kicks,
Starting point is 00:11:49 because it's all hips. And so I feel like it's easy for me to understand, you know, the level of much. movement in the hips. And Jiu-Jitsu is a lot of hips. When you say that those original forms are being looked down upon, was it like the masters looking down it or like it's just a fan? Because I would imagine the masters all learned karate. Like that's, it's kind of like it's not a bad thing, but it's,
Starting point is 00:12:15 we talk about some comedians come in fat, come in fads and they have a certain amount of time that they're popular. It seems like right now Jiu-Jitsu is like at the top of its popularity. So that would mean eventually it's going to fall down And then someone will probably look down at Jiu-Jitsu And it's just interesting how that happens Yeah, I mean, hopefully it's not at the top of its popularity Because, you know, it's a great sport
Starting point is 00:12:38 And it's really not very popular right now Unfortunately, I mean, it's way more popular than it ever has been Yeah, but it's there's just so much to it And there's so many people that you should be in it There should be like a lot more money there We should have professional Jiu-Jitsu athletes and that doesn't happen right now. The only way to really make money in jujitsu is to, you know, win a big tournament and then open your own school and have people come and pay you to learn.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So I think that's unfortunate because we should have just top competitors right now. But, I mean, you know, if it does go down in popularity, I mean, I'm sure it will at some point, just like everything does. But, I mean, a lot with the traditional martial arts, I think they went down in popularity just because, you know, like anything else, there's a big boom. Like I think, what was it, the 70s when, with Bruce Lee? And, you know, like in America, everyone wanted to learn, you know, karate or kung fu or whatever. And there's this boom. And then, of course, a ton of teachers come out and start teaching it.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And it just keeps getting watered down. And as it gets more popular and spread out and you see, you know, you'll have children that are 12 that have black belts and stuff like that, which is, you know, like in Jiu-Jitsu, you can't get your black belt. You can't even get, I don't think you can get your blue belt until you're 16. So you have to be, like you started a white like everyone else, but then there's a bunch of other belts that you get as a juvenile. And until you're 16, then you can get your blue belt, and then you can go up the ranks as an adult from there.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You brought up an interesting point about the teachers. How would like, I'm very lucky that I have some people who are in Jiu-Too who could tell me go see John Evan, go see Eddie Bravo. So how would like a guy back from in Boston, like, know either to find the right guy or know if he has the wrong guy? Because there have to be some pretty bad judicious. Like, it's just, it must happen. Yeah, there's probably a lot of bad jiu jih Tzu coaches. And, you know, it's really tough.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I had this problem myself when I was starting out. You just don't know what you don't know. And it sounds really dumb, kind of. But how are you going to know what's out there, what you're missing if you don't already know that stuff? So, you know, you just go to any place and you put your faith in that instructor and hopefully the vibe is something that fits you. You know, like maybe they're very positive there. Or maybe you want like a drill instructor type of person if that type of energy motivates you or whatever, just people that are like-minded. And so you just hope that you're learning the best techniques.
Starting point is 00:15:20 But, I mean, I think I was training for nearly two years when I started to realize I was looking up online on the forums and people were talking about all these different positions. And I didn't know hardly any of them. So I was like, maybe something's up. Maybe I should start looking around at different gyms. And I mean, that's about as good as you can hope for. Just kind of keep an open mind to know that the place that you're at is. not the end-all be-all of whatever you're taking. And, you know, look around. I think that was really
Starting point is 00:15:52 looked down upon in the beginning of jujitsu. They used to call you like a crayonchi, which is a, he's a guy from a Brazilian soap opera that was like a traitor. So they used to call the people that would go around to different gyms. But now it's not so much of a thing. That was back in old school Brazil, when there was no video, there was no YouTube, and everyone would have their own styles. And then if you went from one gym to another, then you would show them their styles and you were this huge traitor and it was a big terrible thing. So normally you'd only get to see those new techniques when the top level guys would do them in a tournament, maybe like once a year or whatever. So, but that's all gone. I think now just seeing what's out there is the best way to do it
Starting point is 00:16:33 and just try to keep an open mind. Is that why they have like, like there's the 10th planet, there's the Machadoes, there's the Gracies? Is that why they have those schools? So it's kind of like if you're at this kind of school with his name, someone up there has checked this guy out? Or is it like a franchise now? Well, now it's probably more like a franchise. But I mean, back in the day, you know, like Gracie Baja was in, it was from Baja Brazil, you know, like it's that area of where it was,
Starting point is 00:17:03 I think it's in Rio. Yeah, it's in Rio. And you did not go to, I don't even know it was around back then, but you didn't go to the other gym. You wouldn't go to Gracie Humaita maybe, or you wouldn't go to Checkmat or whatever. You know, I don't think they were around back then at all, but, you know, you wouldn't go to the other team's gyms
Starting point is 00:17:25 because they had a different style. And if you were to tell your secrets, you know, the gym's secrets to this other gym, like, oh, man, that was the worst thing you could do. But, I mean, now there's anyone goes to a tournament and does a new move, like it's all over the internet and five minutes and everyone knows it and is deconstructing it.
Starting point is 00:17:47 So all that's gone. It's, you know, a lot of the moves are now similar from gym to gym. Certain styles like my coach Cabrini. He comes from Terere, who was a fantastic grappler. He beat Marcelo Garcia. Just, he kind of revolutionized Jiu-Jitsu in a way. Like, he was
Starting point is 00:18:08 very athletic, but also very technical and fast. And you'll see people that come from him have a similar style. So you'll see different ways that the students, when they become teachers, they'll show the technique. And they kind of have similar styles to them. But, I mean, really, everyone's doing everyone else's thing now, too. I mean, you look at like the Barambolo, which was the real big popular thing, and the Mendes brothers did it, and Cabrino was doing it.
Starting point is 00:18:41 and, you know, all the real sporty guys. But then the guy that's credited with inventing it was Samuel Braga, who's a Gracie Baja guy. And, you know, those couldn't be, you know, more different. More different. Right. You know, everyone's doing all of it. And a lot of it, almost everything that's out there now and is popular now,
Starting point is 00:19:01 comes from old school judo, like old old school judo where they have books where all of it has been laid out already. And you'll see like a go-go plata or something that, like, Eddie Bravo does, and you'll see that in those old black and white pictures. And just, this was back then. This was back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just, it wasn't at the level that it is now.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So, you know, no one knows about that it's already been, you know, invented and figured out. But, yeah, it's pretty interesting. Now, I think now just try to try to find the gym that suits you. And, you know, you don't necessarily need a black belt instructor if that's what you don't have access to. and sometimes that's not even the best thing for you. But typically, I mean, I try to find the place that's going to give you what you want. If you want to compete, maybe go with a competitor. But also know that just like in basketball or something, you know, you got like Pat Riley
Starting point is 00:19:57 and who was the guy that coached the Lakers, Phil Jackson. Yeah, right? Like they're basketball players, but they weren't fantastic, right? Sometimes the best players don't make good coaches. Good coaches, no. So, I mean, I was actually a little skeptical. That's a fucking great point, you guys. Phil Jackson was horrendous.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I grew up on fucking Phil Jackson. And I used to gamble in the eighth grade and seventh grade. Like little bets, $10, like me and Wydie O'Donnell would split, like a five-timer. And whenever they put Phil Jackson in, we would watch the game on the phone. So I would call Lee and we go, Lee, ready, and we'd watch the game and go, that motherfucker. So you and me would be talking about the game. Let's say we bet the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Okay. So we bet the Knicks, and we'd watch the game on the phone. We were that young. And, you know, your mom would say, get off the phone. What the fuck are you doing? I'm talking to the lead.
Starting point is 00:20:49 We're talking about the phone, the game. And then, but once Phil Jackson would get put in, we'll like, turn, I'll talk to you tomorrow. Don't fuck it. We'd hang out. You know, but great questions tonight. And especially the one about, there's a lot of people who put down traditional martial arts.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And I've read it a lot the last two. or three years. And I don't believe that I think every martial arts has one or two things that if you keep working on that, it will help you. Will it help you in the UFC? Will it help you in a street fight? Fucking maybe. Fucking maybe because if you just know one kick, just one kick, just one leg kick. If you just kick up, even if it's wrong, if you know how to get the most power of that kick up, even if you break your leg when you're kicking his knee, but he goes down, The martial art worked. It got you out of a fucking bind.
Starting point is 00:21:40 You know, martial art is what you wanted to be. I will look both of you guys in the eye and tell you that the day I quit martial art was the day I let drugs into my life as a young man. So that's what the martial art was doing for me. It was calming me down. The people that I went to the karate with, the Gushin Roo Karate with,
Starting point is 00:21:59 his name was Kevin Norland, the guy. And he was a fucking Nazi. You know, he was perfect for me. He didn't smile. He was a Vietnam. vet. He had been tortured. He had learned this before he went to Vietnam and practiced it in Vietnam. And while he was in Vietnam, he learned other styles from people, from other places. So if you're from Kansas and you know Shudakhan, and I'm a Gush and Roo guy, then we'll exchange.
Starting point is 00:22:25 So this guy was, his hands were big. He wasn't a nice guy. I used to play basketball by where he used to live. And he would see him, and he wouldn't say fucking hello. Like he just wasn't a nice guy at all But his teaching was effective And not what he talked to you Because he had the soldier mentality So he talked to you even as a young kid like a man Like he'd say this what you need to do
Starting point is 00:22:49 He'd they used to check your fucking report cards in those days If you didn't get Cs or like bees You weren't a lot in his class So for him for you to keep coming to his class You had to have good report cards That's how deep this guy was So traditional And I'm not saying they did that
Starting point is 00:23:06 that in Japan 2000 years ago. But with his translation of, with his translation of martial arts was, help me. And if it's helping you as a young man, I know one thing though, when my daughter turns five, I'm taking it somewhere. Where I don't know, at least for 90 days until she comes home and says, Daddy, I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:23:28 But I know she'll get something out of it. I know I get, you know, I know I get little things out of it. I know if I'm going to martial arts as a kid five nights a week now, Now I have to go to the gym. It's in that same realm, you know. Something. I got something out of it.
Starting point is 00:23:42 The other question is, does it work? Well, let's say judo, for example. If you grab my back, all I need to know is one move. Listen, the beauty about Jiu-Jitsu is you're a big guy, I'm a big guy. There's two or three moves that are for us. And then what we're going to do is we're going to do that move 10,000 times. And we're going to be that good on that move. But Joey, won't they see it coming?
Starting point is 00:24:03 Ronda Rousey, arm bars everybody. it you know that's the thing when you get that good at it even if they know it's coming if John looks at me and goes Joey I'm gonna fucking a Americania you know and he just goes that arm he's he's great he'll keep going for that arm and he'll break it down he'll just keep going for that fucking arm and eventually he's gonna get it you know and that's you don't need to do flying arm by you're never gonna do a flying arm bar it's hysterical Scott Ross who I love Dealey is in charge of the white and blue belts at 10th planet
Starting point is 00:24:35 follow Scott Ross on Facebook every day he posts the warm-ups at 10th Planet if a normal person looks at those warm-ups they won't even go to a fucking gym never mind Jiu-Jitsu are they hard oh god you know he does quarter guard
Starting point is 00:24:50 to the split level to a jumping pass to a full mount and you're like what the fuck is a quarter-guard and it's hysterical because he turns into a it's just you do I do and it's this opera of And I just look at the 10th planet warm up every day and I go,
Starting point is 00:25:08 Thank God I'm not going down there today, you know. But every system has something, whether it's judo, jujitsu, Ikeido, they have something that's going to work for you. Are you going to become a UFC fighter with it and kill people with it? I don't fucking know. But if it keeps your powder dry and it gets you out of a jam once or twice in your life, that martial arts worked. you know that martial arts
Starting point is 00:25:35 and it's kind of funny for you where you go you recently found you go to one school but you found a new school where the coach or whatever master is four he all his moves are four big guys and how would you find that like well no everybody told me everybody told me
Starting point is 00:25:51 but that's the cool thing like they're like okay you're good here but this guy is going to teach you the moves for a big guy yeah for you to move more efficiently you know John Evans weighs 180 pounds of a rock in his pocket what John Evans could do, even if I was John Evans' age, what John Evans could do with his body. I can't do it with mine.
Starting point is 00:26:08 So there's different things for you, you know. When you go to Cabrini, I bet that the guys that weigh 160, get the most of the Cabrani. Maybe. I don't know. I look at it that way because it's their body type type deal. Maybe not. Maybe I could be wrong, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I mean, there's some truth to that. Like, there's a reason why he has a lot of top competitors at the lower weight classes because he's one of them as well. and his style does have a lot of athleticism involved, but he also has a lot of really good bigger guys, too. Well, if a big guy takes his system and adapts and the footwork. Well, that's scary. That's going to be scary.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Yeah, that's really scary. Because now you got a guy like you that's moving like a guy that's 180. Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying that you're going out 180. I'm just saying that you're moving like a guy that's like a panther. So now that's got to be scary too. that's a different avenue to look at also.
Starting point is 00:27:04 You know, it's amazing. It's not at the height of its popularity. And it's not even getting there because there's so many different, like look at Burbank. How many schools are in Burbank, for example? It's got to be five or six of them. See, look, there's one in every street.
Starting point is 00:27:20 There's two on Coenga. There's two jihitsu schools right next to each other down the block from Portos. Go to Portos and go down the block. can make a U-turn up the poros. There's two jiu-jitsu schools right next to each other. There's a jitsu school, like a juice bar,
Starting point is 00:27:38 and a jiu-suitz school. The other jiu-jitsu school is mixed with a cross-fit, but they still have the Brazilian flag out there. The other one is Beak. He used to be on Lancashem. He's a John Machado black belt. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:53 They used to be on Lancashem, mixed with a hopsquito school. For years, they were by Goodyear Tire. That's where he moved. I guarantee you got Gracie Baja, right? You got Alberto Crane, who's wanting the UFC. You got Eddie Bravo has a school in Burbank. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Brent Berniston. Brent, my friend, yeah. Subconscious. Yeah, I've been teaching there for the last. Nights a week. Is V-MAC considered in North Hollywood? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah, it's from Hollywood. Burbank has the school with the Ultimate Ninja Turtle teachers. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. The yoga, power. And I heard that's not a bad place, right? I used to train with him, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:34 He's not a bad guy or something. Somebody was, oh, the kettlebell place where I go. Yeah. His son goes there. It's a kid. They do yoga there too. Yes. They do yoga combination.
Starting point is 00:28:43 They mix it together. So, you know, it's different styles for whatever you want. You know, whatever fits your thing. I mean, they used to be an Ikedo school where guys who wear skirts with swords, wooden swords, right on magnolia. They're burnt down. There's a gym now. There's like an Irish gym.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Newman's gym. There's a Taco Bell there. Oh, yeah. Magnolia. Do you know what that is? In a little like shopping center. Yeah, a little shopping center there. I must have driven by it.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah, there used to be one. It's fucking amazing. It's amazing how many jihitsu schools and different prices and different. And it's what works for you. What hours work for you? What nights work for you? What days work for you?
Starting point is 00:29:27 There's so many different options, you know. But he's right. You don't need. You don't really need a master black belt. You know, he's right. I never thought about it that way. Phil Jackson, those guys were great, but it takes a guy. Maybe there's a guy that's not a great competitor,
Starting point is 00:29:40 but sees something that none of us see, and he could coach you to the end. You know, it's very interesting stuff, you know. Do you ever have guys come in who might not be right for Jiu-Jitsu and show how that would exist, but are there people who J-J-J-J-D-D-J-D-U isn't the choice for, or could almost anyone do it? Well, I think that's why I love Jiu-Jitsu so much.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I mean, you see, I mean, there's people I've coached that have disabilities. There's people that are amputees that are in there or, you know. Isn't there a Desquod guy who does it in a wheelchair, Joey? I'm not sure. I think there is. But, you know, that's crazy. Yeah, it's for everyone. That's one of the great things about it.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It's not like striking where, you know, you have to be able to throw like an explosive punch and a lot of them and have crazy movement. You know, even if you're just out there, if all you can do is just maybe a half a hip escape and you're tired, like, well, you've got a half a hip escape in. And then, you know, maybe a little bit later down the line, you'll have a full hip escape and you'll just turn that into something else. and it's always learning and growing, and all body types and people are different. Ages, women. Yeah, anyone can do it. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:01 You know, when I went to, I was, you know, I still struggle. I was having a hard time in Salami, who's a Renato Magno black belt came to me and says, hey, I go to Renato Magnos. I teach that Higgins doing a thing. And I had heard from all these guys about Hegan, my friend in New Jersey, my cousin got a black belt from him.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So I just, it was 65 bucks. What did I have to lose? And I went down there when I was down to Dan and Asanto was two people away from me. He's 70 fucking years old. He's a 70-year-old purple belt flipping and doing shit I couldn't fucking do. So how bad do you think I felt?
Starting point is 00:31:38 But you just keep going. You just keep going. And here's the beauty about Jiu-Jitsu that they don't sell you on. Whenever you look at somebody's, you know, Facebook or you look at their web page, They talk about agility, they talk about self-confidence, they talk about weight control, they talk about, you know, just all these things.
Starting point is 00:32:01 But what they really don't sell you on is the camaraderie. They really don't sell you on how when you first walk into a jihitsu, a guy that's 100 pounds lighter than you will come over to you and say, get on top of me. And you're sweating on him, and he's like, put your arm here, grab me here, choke me here. You know, I'm going to New York next week. Do you want me to take you to my house and show you how many emails I'm going? I've gotten offers from people to come to their gym and train to help me with my fucking knee, to help me with my breathing, to help me with my guard passing.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Do you want me to take it to my house and show you the emails I got last week? I'm the beauty and the beast email. It's a camaraderie. People come to shows now on Thursday. They'll give me a card and go, listen, I have a garage, man, if you want to come by tomorrow. It's cool. You know, I could teach you a great hip escape or a great armbar for a bear for a business. big guy like you, it's really amazing the people that have reached out to me. I've
Starting point is 00:32:56 kickboxed, I've gone out to Kempo, you know, I do comedy, I'm hungry. More people have contacted me to teach me free Jiu-Jitsu to give me a workout than they have to do anything else. And that's what they don't. That's why I kept going to leave. Because nobody's going to say to you, hey, you're a fat fuck. Hey, you have no strength. There's two things that are for you there's definitely two moves in Jiu-Jitsu, a half guard that you control them, a pass, there's something there for you. And it's not, it's the, you know, it's the guy that comes up to you when you're sweating. He comes up to you and hits you in the back and he goes, bro, take two breaths and let's do it again. And you know, I can't. I can't. Come on. Get on top of me. This is how you
Starting point is 00:33:37 work on your cardio. That's why I keep going with. That's why I keep going, because nobody's there to kill me. You know, I don't, I'm not going to die. If they hurt me, they hurt me on excellent. You're going to get hurt more from misplacing your hand, your leg, you know, nobody's going to break your arm. Nobody's going to throw you on your head. They don't get off on that. They want you to come back. They don't want it done to them. So that's what they don't sell you on in jiu-jitsu. You know, when you look at the tournaments on TV and you go, that's boring. How can somebody do something like that? Once you start going, you see the camaraderie you have with these guys. Now, when was the last time somebody like you fucking
Starting point is 00:34:16 sweat on them. There's women that you're fucking won't let your fucking sweat on them. And here's these guys are like, come on, get on top of me, grab my neck, all right, put your arm under here, grab it, squeeze, and they're turning purple, and I'm on top of them with 300 fucking pounds, and I'm like, I can't do this no more. And they're like, please, that's how
Starting point is 00:34:32 you learn. That's what Jitsu's about. That I didn't get really nowhere else, and that I really need it in my life. I really need that. You know, when you're not athletic enough as everybody else, you really need to, I don't need Somebody would give me a hug, but I need somebody to say, hey, man, I watch the HIPP Escape today.
Starting point is 00:34:49 You did it a lot better than what you did last week. That's it. That's going to make you come back on Thursday. You know, and that's what people in this country, we don't want to do nothing no more. We just want to join something and be a black belt. Or be the top dog, and if we can't do that, we quit. We move on to the next day. There's a Taekwondo school on Wilshire, close to Cabrina, that they sell you the package.
Starting point is 00:35:13 They sell you the $15 dollar package to become a black belt. Are you serious? And you pay for the whole black belt series up front. It's on 50-something Wilshire there, whatever. He's been there for 30 years. Does he make them earn it, or he just has them prepaid a black belt? No, so you come down, you join today, and he'll go, look up. Let's cut this shit.
Starting point is 00:35:30 You can pay me $100 a month. Do me a favor. Go get me $8,000. And that'll get your accelerated black belt program. That gets you for three years. Give me $3,000 a year. I mean, it's fucking ridiculous. I don't go for my black belt.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I don't go to choke nobody out. I don't go to be a UFC fighter. I just go to try to stay healthy and breathe, you know. And that's the beauty of it. You know, the first time I met John Evan, I went into his school with jeans on. I just went to see what the afternoon class was about, and John's like, roll up your pants, get out there.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I was like, are you fucking crazy? But that's how open he was to it. He'll come over and work with you and work on the guard with you and whatever. You know, it was just very different. It really, I needed it at this time. And like I said, with comedy, I'm a professional comedian, man. 98% of my conversations steer the comedy.
Starting point is 00:36:22 They always end up movie, TV, a podcast, something. So when I go there, it's my hour. It's my hour not to think of fucking comic. I'm just a fat guy in the corner getting fucking arm barred to depth. You know what I'm saying? Now, what made you come up with the BJJ breakdown? You know, I just was doing commentary on videos, and I started because I was injured, which, you know, when you really try to compete a lot
Starting point is 00:36:54 or try to be at a high level of the sport, injuries can happen. And I had an issue with my back for a long time for years. And I just kept getting injured, and I didn't want to waste my downtime, right? Like I was not able to train, but I wanted to watch video. But I figured if I'm watching video, you know, I know what's going to. going on because I've been training long enough. But I remember I'd been training for like maybe two or three years and I watched some high level competition and I didn't know anything that was happening.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Like I had no idea what they were doing. It was some black belt finals of the worlds. And I couldn't tell you what guard pass they were trying or what guard that they were doing, which is also kind of what makes it a hard spectator sport. It's so, it's so technical that sometimes it can be tough to watch without context. So I figured, well, maybe I'll start commentating and trying to, like, give a little more insight into it. So that way, the casual observer could see what's going on and maybe appreciate it a little bit more because if you don't, it just looks like a couple guys in pajamas just hugging each other, you know, so it can get a little boring.
Starting point is 00:38:02 But with the context, it's actually really exciting. It's also, because it's so technical, even though it's a bad spectator sport because of that, it also makes it a great, sport to participate in because you'll never learn all there is to know and that's exciting because as soon as you start to really like master something you're at the very very pinnacle then it gets boring for me at least you know there's always something to learn so I was a kid I go to Central Park or Hudson County Park and always be a circle around these two guys and they'd be playing chess okay nothing's as boring as watching two guys
Starting point is 00:38:43 playing chess. Nothing's as boring is watching a golf match on TV. If you go to play golf, it could be okay. Whatever you do, you smoke pot, you drink beers, you're getting sun, you got your SPF number two on, you hit the ball, whatever the fuck. Why is Jiu-Jitsu, how can, how would a network make Jiu-Jitsu feasible to watch? Like Dr. Crandall, who's going to call in a couple minutes, Dr. Joe Crandall went to a sumo competition this week. And he said it was very interesting down in Long Beach that he watched close to, I don't know how many matches, 200 matches and two hours because they're fucking lightning quick, you know. The only thing, and granted, like I said before, I don't know anything about Jujitsu, but just from a sports fan's point of view, the only thing I didn't like about the Last Man of Morris was weren't like five out of six matches, ties, or like a big percentage worse. And it's kind of like why people don't like soccer in America.
Starting point is 00:39:40 it's nice to have a winner and it's like I don't know if it would be points or what it would be but it's just it was kind of I know they were happy how well they did
Starting point is 00:39:50 but as a fan you're like oh you want somebody to win well metamore is submission only correct or is there points I forget it was supposed to be submission only but and I think the first one
Starting point is 00:40:01 was truly submission only but that's that's kind of one of the big conundrums in sport jujitsu for a spectator because pure jujitsu I mean if you
Starting point is 00:40:14 one way to look at it is that jujitsu was made to be used in self-defense and in a fighting situation and a good way to think about it is trying to because in a jiu-jitsu match
Starting point is 00:40:29 it can go it's just a grappling match right you can go until submission but then if you put no time limit on it it could be four hours long for one match Has it really happened? Four hours? There's been some pretty long matches. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I mean, there's definitely some matches recently that have been submission only no time limit that were well over an hour. Come on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. In the States? Oh, absolutely. Even at like, I think there was one at the Dream tournament, which is a fantastic tournament, by the way. They ran one. I think it was a brown belt, but it might have been purple.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And two of the guys went for like an hour and a half or something like that. for one match. And that just is not spectator-friendly. I don't want to watch an hour and a half of... How's that even physically possible? Because I wrestled not well, but I wrestled five-minute round. It's fucking killer. How do you do an hour?
Starting point is 00:41:24 It's killer. Well, see, because there's points in wrestling, though. So, and there usually isn't jujitsu, but if it's a no-time limit submission only, then nothing matters except for the submission. So if you rest and you let the guy just trounce you positional, like they're running all over you, they're getting mount, they're nearly locking up submissions, but you find your way out of them. Maybe you didn't use very much energy, and they still,
Starting point is 00:41:48 at the very end of it, have nothing. So you can conserve a lot of your energy and wait until they're tired and then attack them, or if you're just going at a pretty decent pace, if you're two good athletes and just very stubborn, then, you know, it can go a long time. Just like a tennis match, remember that one that happened, I think maybe, like a couple of years ago and those guys ended up going and they had to like continue it the next day yeah yeah I remember that no one because you have to get over two like I'm not great with tennis two sets yeah right like over the the next guy to call it an official win so they went up to where it was you know match point or whatever and then you have to you can't just beat them with one one score over
Starting point is 00:42:34 the other person has to be like an extra two or something like that just to make sure you're the definitive winner and one guy would score and then the other guy would score. Oh no you're talking about the thing at the end like when it goes to advantage. Yes yeah right and but they just kept going forever and it was I mean that match ended up being hours and hours and they had to do it on the next day to finish the second half of it I mean it was crazy so if you get too stubborn guys and tennis I don't know if you've ever played tennis I've played it a couple of times you're running around a lot it's a very physical sport to think about doing that for hours rough.
Starting point is 00:43:08 So, I mean... I didn't to wake up and do it again the next fucking day. God, I know. Right where you left off the night before. That's got to be a goddamn night, man. And that wasn't for the finals, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:43:17 That was just to see who goes on. So then you're depleting yourself like crazy just so you can go face someone else. It's just... So it would have to be... To make jiu-too feasible, that means it would have to be points and all on a time limit.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Or maybe like maybe a 10 minute and then overtime might be fun? And then overtime, three-minute overtime. Well, see, that's the thing. No one has figured out how to make it truly exciting, but also watchable, right? And in a timely manner. Because submission only, no time limit is kind of the only way to make it pure Jiu Jiu Jitsu. If you just wanted to make it pure Jiu Jitsu, because then it's only submission. It can only end by submission or somebody just gives up there.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I'm too tired. I just tap out, right? So that's all fine and dandy, but then it's not, you know, if you're looking at it in the context of a fight, if you get mount on somebody, you know, like if you look at MetaMoros where Andre Galvo fought, what's his name, Huron Gracie, and Huron let him basically just run all over him, get dominant positions, mount and everything and tire himself out. And then at the end, he started to push back when Andre was tired. And that one, of course, only went to 20 minutes or something that started putting in a time limit on it, and it ended in a tie because it went to the time. But you can't say that, I don't know, at the end he said, like, this is, you know, this was the real Jiu-Jitsu, because they always quote like what Hiliogracy, one of the inventors would have wanted to see in Jiu-Jitsu. I'm not so sure, because he was a big proponent of self-defense, if it would have been his wishes to see someone get mounted over and over again, wherein.
Starting point is 00:45:05 like an MMA situation, you're getting punched in the face. Like, that is not maybe the best way to do jujitsu. So you've got this kind of give and take with that. Has the UFC ever, because you say you're not as much of a fan anymore right now, you're not that interested. There's some fights that aren't as exciting. What if, like, at two points in the UFC fight, there was, like, just a jitzy match with, like, the top level people that nobody knows about.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Like, you would think they'd want to branch out and show, like, how, this is jujitsu like the next we have a wrestling match like you think that would make it more interesting they wouldn't have to have all these bad fights yeah i mean they they they i mean you have to look at look at it from their perspective as a company they're going to just want to do whatever's easiest that gives them money and if jiu jitsu as a sport is not um as doesn't have the fan base doesn't have the rules figured out quite yet you know they're not going to really get behind that because it's a lot of work. And from like a business standpoint, why put in all this work for maybe you get your losses back?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Maybe not, but you're eating into, you could be doing something more productive. So I understand it from that standpoint, but somebody needs to come along and develop it. I mean, with my commentary, that's what I try to do, at least just so people understand what's going on. But as far as a tournament goes, I did a tournament at my house for money just randomly, like I wanted, it's something that I'm going to start doing more often because I'm trying to open up my own gym right now. So once that happens, I will be live streaming tournaments from my gym and I will try to figure out the rule set better. But for my rule set, I just made it no time limit submission only just because it would be easier and I hate any time it comes down to
Starting point is 00:46:51 So no time limit? Yes, no time. And a couple of the matches win about 30 minutes. Hold on. We got Dr. Joel coming in here. What's up, buddy? Hey, Joe, it's Joel. How are you, Doc? I got Mike. Good, you?
Starting point is 00:47:06 I got Mike, John Evans here with us. Hey, what's up, man? Hey, John. And I got a man, Syatt, the flying Jew. How are you, Doc? Good. Thank you very much for taking the time and calling him. You know, I want to introduce you to our listeners and whatnot and let them know what you got.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And I got a question for you, Doc. I want you to explain yourself. Sure. What is an exercise psychologist? Break it down for you. Exercise, physiologist. I'm sorry. Yeah, we basically, we study human movement.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And, you know, just try to get the body to move more efficiently. And which, can you describe, like, in what manner to me, Doc? I mean... Well, what I do, Joe, is I look at the structure and I also balance that out with the aspect of what's going to happen emotionally with the brain and try to think up on the diaphragm so the body can be strong and just work efficiently. So that's kind of what I do is I look at the different structures of the body
Starting point is 00:48:08 and see how they're making or having possible dysfunctions in the body that are making the body more difficult to move than it should be. That's what it is. All right, because we didn't know what was going on here. We looked it up and tried to read and I want to break it down. You know, every time I've gone to see you, Doc, I've always had great results. Well, you're a great patient. And as you know, we always do something different as well.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Right. It depends on what the client is going to present. No, and I've been doing the homework you gave me. And it's funny, I got on the epileptical. My breathing is great now. I work on the breathing. I got the tape that, you know, I tape my mouth at night now when I sleep. So I can breathe.
Starting point is 00:48:54 And it's helped me. I had to go through a couple different tapes because I kept ripping it off or drooling on it like a savage. but I finally found this time to get used to. Yeah. Let's take some time to get used to. But the benefits of that are huge. No, all the results that I've gotten from what you give me have always been great,
Starting point is 00:49:12 and I just wanted to let people know what you did, you know, exactly, even with my knee. When I went to see that, they did a couple movements with you. The next day my knee swelling went down by half. Half it went down. I mean, we didn't do that much. Yeah, as you know, I worked. you know, I work a lot with the breathing because if you're not breathing efficiently,
Starting point is 00:49:34 you're not moving efficiently, because most people will hold their breath when they move. So that's a common denominator that a lot of people miss is the breathing. So you must be able to breathe. Yeah, that was my problem. I still hold my breath
Starting point is 00:49:49 for everything, and I try to do it. Now, I want to ask you something, Doc, real quick, because with the exercise you gave me, I breathing through my nose and breathe out through my nose. In Jiu-Jit, a lot of things, they always say you breathe in through your nose but exhaust through your mouth.
Starting point is 00:50:05 What are we doing differently? Well, a lot of people, you know, Americans have basically come up with that. Your thing is basically just big through their nose usually much more than we do. When you exhale through your mouth, you're releasing all that pressure that the body needs.
Starting point is 00:50:25 And you're changing your pH levels, your blood, you're changing the CO2 levels that your body needs to push the oxygen off of the red blood cells so the oxygen can get kicked off of those red blood cells and into those cells and tissues where it's needed. It also helps it cross the blood-brain barrier so you get more oxygen into your brain. And when you exhale through your mouth, you lose all those benefits. Oh, okay, so that's why you have me putting the tape on at night and whatnot. Correct. On my mouth.
Starting point is 00:50:59 That was why, because I was confused, especially when that day you came into watching through the hip escapes. I didn't know if you wanted me keep breathing in out of my nose. I didn't know, so now that breaks it down. But it's been working. I like the results I got from you. That's why I wanted to get you on here and explain a little more. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You know, what you do. Even my wrist pain is gone. I know John Evan went to see you for his back at one time. And now how did you guys know each other? I We met through Aaron Gonzalez at Fitnex who's also he was I think
Starting point is 00:51:32 2009 Brazilian Blue Belt World Champion Oh wow Yeah he's really good I've been I've actually He started watching me compete And he saw me at some random tournament
Starting point is 00:51:45 And came up to me I think he was a white belt And said that he was a fan of mine Which was I thought was hilarious Because I was I think I saw a blue belt or a purple belt Or something at the time And then I end up training
Starting point is 00:51:55 with him at Cabrignas and he's got super good himself. And it's like, well, I'm a fan of his now as well. And then fortunately got to meet Joel through him. And, yeah, I mean, Joel diagnosed some things with me that no one seemed to be able to pinpoint. So it was pretty cool. And you work with just athletes, Doc, or anybody in particular? I work with anybody from four to 104 years old. trying out to limit myself on what we can work with.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And what is your specialty specialty? Like, if somebody was looking you up, what would they really be looking for you for? Well, what I'm doing is I'm creating my own little style of bodywork right now, and I call it voila. And it's like I mentioned earlier, looking at the structure of the body and how it affects movement. And I also do this wonderful technique called restorative.
Starting point is 00:52:53 breathing. That is just an amazing stuff working with my mentor there, Lois Lane out of Phoenix. And so she taught me probably more about movement than any movement specialists out there. And that has actually changed my life because I was concussed many times as a child and also, you know, playing collegiate football.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And the restored breathing techniques that's really helped me get my brain back functioning again so I can think so I can create this bodywork that I'm doing now. It's funny because when I do like the elliptical, I always say it wrong, the epileptical, and I always say the epileptical, I don't know why, and I have to really work on the elliptical. But it's really crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Whenever the last month and a half I've been working with you, and I do do the breathing exercises, when I'm doing the elliptical, it seems really hard at first, but once I open up at like the eight-minute mark, I'm good to go. But not only that, it feels like when I'm breathing that, my whole body's getting fueled. It's really hard to describe. I can feel the energy in my legs.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Like sometimes when you're doing the epileptical, for example, you just feel your arms. But when I do the breathing that you've worked with me on, I can actually feel the energy lifting from my, heels up to my cat. You know what I'm saying? I'm describing that exercise because that's where I've noticed
Starting point is 00:54:30 the most improvement on my breathing. Yeah, that's because your body's being oxygenated so now that blood can get to your extremity and that oxygen can get pumped into those extremities so you can feel them better. So it's sort of like a yoga-type breathing? No, it's a little different than that. It's all nasal breathing with the tone.
Starting point is 00:54:51 on the roof of the mouth, and the mouth is, because the teeth never touch. And why is that important? Except phone yogis, they breathe through the mouth. So that's why we say it's not going to go to preach. And why is it so important to have the tongue on the roof? Because I work on that also when I do the 30 seconds of kicking. The tongue on the roof of the mouth is huge.
Starting point is 00:55:15 As a matter of fact, I was talking with that with a client today, and I was explaining important for the tongue and the roof of the mouth. and the beauty of the tongue is actually the first thing that was ever formed on us as humans while we're in the womb. And when the tongue is on the roof of the mouth, your body produces oxytocin and dopamine, which are two great drugs that make you feel happy. It also pumps your sinuses. Joey, I haven't had an allergy attack in 14 months, and I used to get them three times a year. and it's all due to the breathing
Starting point is 00:55:54 but having a tongue up is it will pump my sinuses the other thing it does is it balances out the electric oxide, the CO2 and the oxygen levels in your body so your body is healthier inside
Starting point is 00:56:08 the most other most important thing it does when your tongue is on the roof of your mouth it stabilizes your head neck and your entire spine so should you have on that when you're rolling and so oh my god She goes, that's the true core. I said, yes, yes it is.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The tongue is the true core. So should you have your tongue on the top of your mouth when you're rolling also? They try. Wow. Yeah. That is just amazing, Doc. Yeah, well, I took his class the other day. It's an awesome class.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Everybody should get there because he's such a great teacher. And he's so positive and, you know, he keeps you going. But I'm sure my tongue more than my time. my mouth because I was so tired. Did it help, though? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'll have to start working on that. I used to hold my breath and turn.
Starting point is 00:57:08 As you know, John, you know, with my head and neck injuries, you know, I've got to really make sure that my neck stay stable. That's the one way I can do it in the class. Oh, nice. So by putting your tongue on the top of your, the roof of your mouth, I'm sorry. You just say it like that. See, you learn something new every day, people. so it stabilizes that's
Starting point is 00:57:28 I didn't know why you made me It's your entire spine Hey doc you know I'm old school You tell me what to do I do it I don't ask And I had to ask tonight I had to ask because I had John So I wanted to ask why
Starting point is 00:57:40 The tongue on the top Because I've been doing it Especially when I do the The 30 second drill You know with the With the heart monitor and all that And the other day I was like You had his start stop test
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah why does he have me Have my tongue up there all the time When I'm And sometimes I forget to do it and I saw it all over again Because you know you just told me so no I'm getting great results doc I wish that more people go see you know in this day and age we get more and more people popping up With different forms of You know training or
Starting point is 00:58:14 Strength and conditioning everybody has different exercises and I love it doc I love it that people are thinking outside the box even with health care You know we're living in a country right now where the healthcare system is fucked it's fucked I mean in more ways than one they milk you to debt
Starting point is 00:58:32 the insurance companies I just had surgery and I can't believe all the paperwork and the bureaucracy and sometimes all the stuff you go to you're not even getting healed you're not even with traditional medicine you know
Starting point is 00:58:45 so I like thinking outside the box that's why I go to acupuncture that's why I come to see you you know because I don't think a doctor could fit your knee you know those things they learned was 10,000 years ago. Shit's changing daily. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:59:00 No, it's just amazing. It's just really amazing what's going on, whether it's jujitsu, whether it's with kinesiology or with what you're doing, the exercise. I mean, it's just great. With the breathing, the restorative breathing, who knew about this 10 years ago? And it's even helping my sleep at me.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I think that the taping my mouth at night has helped me a little bit with the sleep at me. believe it or not. Mm-hmm. So I think that if somebody has sleep apnea or having problems with their breathing and they live locally in the California area, they should try to look you up.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I mean, we have your webpage. What's your webpage? What is it there? It's physiocare center.com. It's P-H-Y-S-I-O-Care-Center.com. Doctor, it was a pleasure. And I will give you a call. Joey, thanks so much for having me on.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And John, best luck. to you and I'll look forward to seeing you in class soon. Oh, awesome. Are you coming to class this week, Doc? Tuesday? I should hope to make it there, I think, on Thursday. Okay. Well, I won't see you Thursday, but I'll see you next week for sure, Doc. All right? All right, fellas. You have a great night. Thank you very much for calling in, my brother. You got it, Joey.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Bye-bye. Bye-bye. See? I don't ask, but I got to ask. No, I thought that was funny when he said that. You know, some people, listen, there's what happens. and it happens in Jiu-Jitsu, it happens with doctors, it happens with anything. You know, I'll come in to see you for something, I ask you for your advice, you give me your advice, you give me your consultation. If I don't ask you why you did that, then I won't know, because you're going to tell me why you made me do that, and on the way home, I'm going to think of the reasons why, well, maybe I can't do that or whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Maybe there's an excuse. If I don't ask why I have to do that, I just do it. It's an old saying, yours is not to wonder what. Yours is just a do-a-dye. Shut the fuck up and do what the fuck you got to do, you know? But it's really weird how somebody will say, well, I can't do that because my need. Try it that way.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Just fucking try it. If you can't do it, then we'll do it your way. But a lot of people just shut off. Well, that's not going to work for me. They're right away to dismiss it. I don't dismiss anything. I got to give it a shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:14 You know, maybe I'm telling you something to do, and I don't have the time to tell you why to do it. I'm just telling you because I fucking know. One day you'll come to me and go, oh, I figured out why you told me to fucking do that. Yeah. Right, John Evan? What the fuck guy?
Starting point is 01:01:30 That's right. It's Monday. A little Tony Bennett. A little Tony better for your people. On a beautiful Monday morning with John Evan and my main man, Lisa, yeah? I want to be around. We've got to get Tony Bennett to call one time.
Starting point is 01:01:45 He's too busy. He has too many pictures. But this is the shape of you are really high. I'm pretty high. He has a pot cookie or a broccoli chicken. He has a brownie that he brings and every day there's a new chef. This one tastes good. They're all going to make me go crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Put the music on. I don't want to. Every day. It's a new chef, I swear. But they taste good. They do the trick. Look at you. You have it?
Starting point is 01:02:15 Yeah. What's next for my name? What's next for my main man, John Evan? Talk to me, God damn it. Talk to me, John Evan. What the fuck? It's a Sunday night here. I got no stories.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Nobody's throwing heat at me least fucked up. Are you guys going to start a whole new week? I'll tell you something that happened to me last week, John Evan. I had to do a storyteller show for Comedy Central, and it was on Danger. They gave me like categories. And they told me danger or friendship and all this. And I wrote this story,
Starting point is 01:02:58 and it was getting taped for Comedy Central. Central John Evan. At 10 o'clock at night, I had already submitted the story, and at 5 o'clock, I'm sitting on my couch with ice on my knee thinking, I can't tell that fucking story. That story sucks. It's not going to fucking work, you know? And I'm like, what story am I going to tell? And about two months ago, I was on the podcast with Lee, and I told the story that I never told before on the podcast about that after I got locked up for a while, and after I got out and stuff, years later, I was getting my life together. And I did one last fucking dirty crime.
Starting point is 01:03:33 And it was like for the worst day of my life. Like I fucking hated it. Like I kept thinking I was going to get caught and all this for nothing. And what happened was I had a friend. I was in New York. And I was just going to pay child support. I was behind the eight ball and child support. And I was just behind the eight ball.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Sometimes you think you're behind the eight ball and you go looking. You're like $8,000 and $9,000 down. I owed rent money. I owed child support money. I just wasn't making enough money. And I was making great money. I was making like 3,000, 4,000 a month selling cars in Manhattan. And I was paying no rent.
Starting point is 01:04:05 My rent was like $2 a month. But I just couldn't get over that hump, you know? And I was doing stupid shit. I was picking up Coke for people in New York and stupid stuff like that. My buddy came to me because I got this cop who works at the DEA, and he's got a DEA jacket and all this kind of shit. We're going to rob a drug dealer, but we're going to watch him first. They already know.
Starting point is 01:04:26 All we have to do is go in there. Did I tell you about this? No. So I said, fuck, you know, and I had never done nothing like this before in my life. This is after you got out of prison? This is like when I'm living in Jersey with George in 93. George didn't even know about it. Nobody really knew about it.
Starting point is 01:04:41 I never said, I don't know about it. And I just was in this hole and I go, there's only one way I'm going to get myself out of this. Either gambling or I'm not to kill somebody with a lot of money. I got to do something. So I was on a roll. I put this bet in. I bet the Jets against the Philadelphia Eagles. and Randall Cunningham got hurt during the game
Starting point is 01:05:00 and the Jets won all this fucking dough like two grand I'm lucky I won a R-O-A so I was halfway in the battle now I had to get a plane ticket to go back to Colorado and see my daughter this is 94 and I'm like if I go back there I don't have enough money to get a gifts and the hotel and all this shit and my buddy came to me and goes listen we could rob this guy you never know you might make $30,000 you might make $10,000 I had nothing to lose
Starting point is 01:05:25 so I go what do I got He goes, all right, listen, just you and me, we're going to kick down the fucking door, and we're going to make sure they all get on the floor, and then we're going to take that coke and run. That's it. The guy's always got, like, four keys in there. Simple. He goes, you're going to have a weapon, I'm going to have a weapon. I'm going to have another extra weapon.
Starting point is 01:05:41 When I get to the guy's house that day, he's got a bulletproof fucking vest. And I'm like, what the fuck? You know, like, once I seen a bulletproof vest, I was like, wait a second, this is supposed to be a walk in the park. Why do you have a bulletproof fucking vest on? and you know why and he's like well you never know the guy was an asshole but he was my friend I liked them so he goes we'll go over there we drive over and I'm the whole way I'm thinking how am I gonna do this
Starting point is 01:06:05 that planet is terrible I know please please I've never done arm robbery before I don't know anything about arm robberies it's not like you go on YouTube and type arm robbery and I tell you how to do an arm robbery of a drug dealer so when I was locked up there was this black guy and his name was etchy and he would always come into the window I would always see him I was this stock clerk in the kitchen
Starting point is 01:06:25 and he always had this thing and he would kick the door in and he would go freeze put your fucking hands up and everybody would go etchy knock it the fuck off because he was that good he got everybody's attention he scared the fuck out of you
Starting point is 01:06:38 he would just go freeze and he would put his hands like he had a gun and he didn't have no gun and everybody would look at him and go etchy cut the shit out the fuck is wrong with you're scared half the people you know so I'm like I'll just play etchy I'll just do what etchie did
Starting point is 01:06:52 and he kicked the door I remember running in and I was sitting there watching TV And I just held the gun and I had tears in my eyes I did everything I could not to cry And have a nervous breakdown You have no idea guys how scary that is And he's like I know there's drugs here Everybody get down he started tying them up and shit
Starting point is 01:07:09 And I'm just sitting there with this gun just holding it Like with this a loaded gun A 38 that was disgusting I thought he gave me like an automatic weapon They gave me like a semi-automatic 38 or 32 Whatever the fuck they are And it took like four minutes but it felt like I was in there for four fucking hours.
Starting point is 01:07:27 It was horrible. And I went in and I said, freeze. I didn't know what to do after that. That was all he ever said. He never said in all the lines after freeze. He would just go freeze. And he would just stand there. And I just stood there.
Starting point is 01:07:38 And my friend grabbed it up and he said, let's get out of here. And we ran out and that was it. The people didn't chase us or fucking nothing. I think I got like 16 grand or something like that. But that was it. I was going to tell that fucking story at the Comedy Central thing. Thank God I didn't have to. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I did an arm robbery and did not know what I was doing. I improvised during an arm robbery. Do you understand? I just noticed something. I figured something out. What? And I don't want to offend you. I love you, but you're a pretty bad criminal.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Like the last two you had. I'm a fucking idiot. Awful ideas. Why did I get into comedy? Because I was good at dancing, because I could sing and dance. I got into fucking comedy because it was my last resort guy. Okay? It was the last thing on the Joey Dewey.
Starting point is 01:08:22 is bandwagon. You had like a good start to your career with like the jewelers and stuff but later on the plans didn't go so well. You know, after a while I didn't want to be a fucking criminal no more so things just started popping up.
Starting point is 01:08:33 It wasn't like I had a choice to fucking orchestrate them. You know, I didn't want to be a criminal all my life. I didn't want that fucking thing for me but that's just a crazy story that the only reason I got. What if they were shot?
Starting point is 01:08:46 What if one of those young kids had a gun they would have shot us? What if? Were you still in probation? No. I was off of everything. I was just on fucking stupidity pills that day. And I think about that,
Starting point is 01:08:58 and I think, you know, you think about your life, and you think all the times you could have got, like, just things that could have happened. That's why you know, whenever my two feet hit the floor of your fucking morning, I rubbed my head, and I go, to God, whoever the fuck you are, thanks for you give me another fucking day, because you have no idea. You have no fucking idea how dumb of a criminal I was.
Starting point is 01:09:18 I'm a dummy. It doesn't take much to, you know, you know, we could crack some. jokes, I could write some jokes, and maybe I could write something, but I don't know nothing about nothing. I just got away with murder all my fucking... I don't know nothing about nothing. I don't know nothing with the name of your book or your next book. I got a little common sense. I got a little common sense, but I don't know nothing about nothing. I'm like John Evan. He knows about shit, John Evan. John Evan, you never told us how you got into Jitra. Tell Lee's, just so he
Starting point is 01:09:42 knows that... Yeah, I mean, I was not an athletic kid at all, like in high school. I I ran. I remember they, because I tested out of high school early, but for the year that I was there where they could lock me down to do some PE, I remember they forced me to do the mile and take my time. And it was like 12 minutes and something, which is like you can walk the mile in 12 minutes and something. So it was not an athletic kid. I was a really poor athlete. never wanted to be athletic or do anything like that.
Starting point is 01:10:24 And, you know, but just as I got older, I decided I'm going to get a motorcycle. I thought that was just the smartest thing to do. And so I got a sport bike and honestly loved it. A lot of good things about sport bikes. But eventually ended up crashing it and had a bad, a really bad accident and tore my diaphragm. I got a concussion and I broke my tailbone, but I tore my diaphragm, but because that's kind of a hard thing to see, I think they have to do like a CT scan or something. They did an MRI. Did you have a hard time breathing? An x-ray, not initially because it was just a
Starting point is 01:11:08 very small tear, and that can just happen. It could be a genetic thing. It could be when I looked it up at the time years ago. They said like 1% of all automobile accidents result in a torn diaphragm, which seems very high to me because I'd never heard of it. But they didn't see it because they just treated me for my broken tailbone and my concussion. My head was hurt really bad. And I was okay in like two, three months I was fine, but that torn diaphragm kept going. And then three years later, it tore the rest of the way and my stomach went. into my chest cavity and collapse my lungs. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And just out of nowhere, too, I thought maybe like a month beforehand I'd broken a rib or something because it was hard to lift weights. I was just trying to do some like bodybuilding type workouts or whatever. And I just stopped doing that because it hurt too bad. They did an x-ray. They didn't find anything. And then, you know, I ended up in the hospital in the emergency room. And at the time, I had long hair right before I was in there and I was in like a metal band.
Starting point is 01:12:13 and I ended up shaving it all off except for, I'm like, well, if I'm going to shave it off, I might as well leave a Mohawk, right? So I left a Mohawk. But it was like 2004 or something like that, you know, pretty like a fairly progressive time. But for whatever reason, me with that Mohawk, they just thought that I was just some punk kid. And, I mean, I was in my 20s, you know, like they just didn't believe anything that I was saying. They thought I was faking it. So they kept me in the ER because they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me.
Starting point is 01:12:48 That's why they thought I was just joking. But they'd give me morphine, but I couldn't even lay flat. I had to sit up kind of like in a seated up fetal position and just horrible pain. The worst pain I've ever felt in my life. For two days, they kept me there trying to figure it out, but kind of like half-ass. Like they didn't really care. But then finally, the gastroenterologist, they're, like, well, we need to get him in so we can see if there's a problem.
Starting point is 01:13:16 And he's like, he's fine. He's just dramatic. And they were going to release me, but it's like, maybe we'll fit you in. And he put me in last on the day. I remember that because I'm watching the seconds count down because it hurts so bad. And they finally took me in and they shoved a camera down my throat. And immediately, like, well, I guess I woke up during it and I ripped it out and started trying to fight them.
Starting point is 01:13:38 But I was completely out of it. I have no recollection of that. But as soon as they got me out of there, they saw immediately my stomach was they thought they were going to have to remove part of it. And they had some guy from San Diego that was a surgeon. They flew him up here in like 45 minutes and had me on the operating table right then. It was a very life-threatening thing. And then afterwards, it was, I was fine, but they were joking because it took about a week in, I mean, I was in ICU for like three or four days. and then he was in the hospital just for a week recovering.
Starting point is 01:14:11 They said, well, you know, he may never be an athlete or anything again at a high level. And I don't even know if that was serious at the time, but I was young, and I had no aspirations to do anything like that. But at the time, I was like, damned if you can tell me what I can't do. So I had always watched UFC, and I saw Hoist Gracie. You know, he's a tiny guy. He weighs about what I weigh now, but a little bit taller. He's skinnier.
Starting point is 01:14:34 and he was just beating these really huge muscle-bound people in the UFC. And I was like, wow, if I could learn something like that that's technical, like, oh, that would be awesome. So I said if I can recover in one year, because it took me about that long to do a sit-up, because they cut all my stomach, then I'll join Jiu-Jitsu. And so that was nine years ago, and I've been training about eight years. So that's how I started Jiu-Jitsu. That's fucking amazing Well It was silly
Starting point is 01:15:07 Maybe we can fucking do it You can be throwing sidekicks for Jesus by next year I throw sidekicks for Jesus I know you do I know you do But kind of a weird question Joey and I talk
Starting point is 01:15:18 About sometimes about how in comedy There's no one to really tell you Like Yeah you should headline now It's kind of you have to do it for yourself How weird was it to like Make the decision that you could be a teacher Because like you know when you're ready
Starting point is 01:15:32 Or like that sort of stuff That must be kind of a weird thing to go through. Yeah, teachings. Teaching's unusual because not everyone's a good teacher. You know, good competitors frequently are not good teachers, like we were talking about earlier. And if you're really good at jujitsu and really good maybe at competing, you really only have to know a couple of moves that you do very, very well,
Starting point is 01:15:57 just like what Joey was saying. You only have to learn this one or two things for your body type. And if you do them really well, even if they know what's coming, they can't stop it. So, you know, like a lot of competitors, especially at a lower level, they don't maybe know all the aspects of the game. But as a teacher, you really have to know a lot of different stuff and know how to do it well and how to explain it well.
Starting point is 01:16:21 And I've always just liked the technical, kind of nerdy, analytical part of Jiu-Jitsu. So I try to learn everything. But I think I was just training under Sean Williams, who's a fantastic professor. He's at five-star jujitsu. And I think he had to leave town and it was emergency and there was no one to fill in. He was opening up a new school. And so he had me teach the class because I was just the highest ranking, the most knowledgeable there. So I did that.
Starting point is 01:16:49 And then maybe a couple of times, you know, he felt comfortable with it. I guess people said that I did an okay job. And just from there, you just start doing it. So it's just kind of forced on me, really, because it's really hard to say like, I'm ready to teach now, you know? Like I didn't feel like I was ready at the time. I'm just like, well, I'll just try to show some of the stuff that I know I do fairly well that pretty much is just regurgitated from what I've been taught.
Starting point is 01:17:14 And that's just kind of how it starts. And then you learn a lot when you teach, though. So it's a good, I think it's a really good thing to teach because I've learned so much just some things that you take for granted. And like Joey, you'll say, like, how do you do this thing? I'm like, well, that's, it's obvious. and then I'll start explaining it to him and be like, oh, I just never even looked in depth
Starting point is 01:17:36 at that thing before, and now I understand it much better myself. So you learn a lot of stuff like that from teaching that you just wouldn't even think about, which I think is great. You're very good at it, and you're very patient. And you, it's, it's, I've had really good martial art teachers and really bad ones, and I've had gung-ho ones, You know, it's just great.
Starting point is 01:18:03 You know, it's, I couldn't imagine a life without martial art, and I never took it to be a tough guy. You know, I always took it to just something. It was just something that just seemed cool for me, you know. I didn't really like judo that much. I really didn't like the Aikido's. I like the karate's, like the kung fu's. I like getting punch in the head.
Starting point is 01:18:25 I like going on. I think the best times I ever had, if I got to tell you as a kid, were playing Biddy basketball and hanging out with my karate friends and going to tournaments on the weekend on Saturdays. And, dog, I went to, when I was a kid, I probably competed in 50 tournaments
Starting point is 01:18:42 and I probably had maybe eight trophies. I wasn't good at that shit. I wasn't good at it. I was good at forms, you know. I would always, if I felt behind on sparring on the fights, because they were always semi-contact from your neck to your waist.
Starting point is 01:18:57 So if I always fell behind, I didn't know this at 10 and 11. You don't know this because you're a fucking moron. But as you get older, if I would fall behind on points, I'd get frustrated. And I'd throw higher kicks. Not to hurt you, but I would just get frustrated. And I was good at the higher kicks. So I would kick you in the ear and I'd get disqualified.
Starting point is 01:19:16 You know, I wouldn't go to hit you. I would never kick your heart or something. You know, but these are the things you learn later on, you know, that I didn't know about. But those are my best times in my life, Lee. Forget the party and forget the fucking chicks that suck. your dick and eat your ass and all that. You don't have to forget about them. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:19:36 It's just funny how I like that. And I couldn't name all the stupidity, all the stories I tell you and everything. I could probably name one of those kids. I remember a kid Glenn Cologne that was a prodigy type kid when he was like 13. He was a black belt and four different things. And people would contact him and make them come to his school. I call you and say, John, do me a favor. And he comes to my school, I really like to have you. And it was just amazing to see this kid.
Starting point is 01:20:05 He didn't do drugs. He was very quiet. You went to his house, John. His mother, he had a single mom, and they probably had a room and a half of five foot Nova trophies when this kid was 13. It was something that I never saw before. You haven't been to Lee's house.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah, I know. You walked in his house and you had a walk against the wall. Like everything was just trophies because he had done it since he was five, you know. And I remember two or three kids. Their name is maybe two. Supito. This kid's Supito because when you were super,
Starting point is 01:20:41 you know, when you're a landlord, you were a super, his father was the super of the building. So his name was Supita? So we called him Subito because he was the... Little Super. And he had, you know, we let us train in his basement. I remember this kid Mario Diaz when I was older. Later on, when I was in high school,
Starting point is 01:20:56 he was a Chinese Cuban kid. And at night, so this was the deal. You went home. You trained at your school. Then you went home. You ate dinner. You did your homework. And then everybody lied to that mother.
Starting point is 01:21:07 We got to go to Mario's house and do a science project. You threw your gear out the window. And then you walked out of the house. You grabbed your gear and you went to Mario's house. Mario had a basement, maybe two of these rooms. Every fucking six inches there was a hole in the wall. And his father wouldn't know it. Like we put posters over it.
Starting point is 01:21:27 We fought down there until the end of. Like, we go from 9 to 11.30. This is after karate. Just fight clubs? After six hours of school. Fight clubs with the pads on, the fucking armed things. We had the heads, a mouthpiece, and we just kill each other. The good thing was, like, let's say John Evan was a fujo, a Pai Kung Fu guy.
Starting point is 01:21:49 And I was a Gush and Roo guy, and you were something else guy. And we would teach each other different things. So that was pretty neat. But I got honest to God. And when I go to your class, John, on Tuesday, I had a great time. I have a great time at those big jihadistoo classes. And the only reason when I go to Higgins on Monday and Wednesday is because sometimes I have acupuncture. Or I have an audition.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Auditions are usually Tuesdays and Mondays because you have to shoot the rest of the week. The table read is on Wednesday for the next week. So my busiest days are always Monday or Tuesday. After that, the week fucking dies for me. You know, after Wednesday, I got shit unless I have comedy. I sit there for two fucking days. I always make the Thursday class. But those are the highlights in my week.
Starting point is 01:22:33 I try to make those because I fly on Wednesdays or Thursdays. But it's changed me a lot, man. It helped me with my comedy. It helped me with just even this breathing thing I have. When I first started going to Jit to John, I was always paranoid. The only classes I go to were yours because I trusted you. You know, I would go to John's classes because I tried. There was a smaller class.
Starting point is 01:22:55 And if I had a heart attack, John could save me fast. to anybody else. I always stay close to John. But no, that's basically it, man. You're a great teacher, John. Oh, thank you. You know, I know you're a purple belt with a bunch of fucking stripes.
Starting point is 01:23:10 You're going to be a brown belt soon. But it's amazing that you learn from people. You don't even have to, you know, that's a great point you made tonight. You don't need to go to these world champions. You know, jiu-jitsu is very... I mean, it's all from fucking... I mean, they teach you the same show.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Every school just with different variations, you know? Well, isn't it a lot of, like, when I was at the taping the other day, I was walking up by the line for, like, the next show to come in, and I just saw two people discussing moves. So, like, it sounds like it's not even, like, your teachers anymore. Like, you'll just talk to people, and, like, you'll teach each other. So do you don't even need, like, you don't even need, like, a master or something, like, it seems. Well, no, you have training. You have training partners. Sure.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Yeah. You know, John will say to me, oh, I thought of a, John taught me something that I use all the time now. And I'm not good at it, but I'm going to keep using it because it's very energy efficient for me. It was a move that he saw a brown belt when a contest with a, you know, an arm, what, not an arm drag. Oh, the sleep drag. The sleeve drag from the closed guard. It works for me. I'm a bigger guy.
Starting point is 01:24:13 It's a fluid movement, you know. So he could tell me it on the phone. He'll call me and say, hey, man, I got this movie. I want to teach you. John has sent me emails. I still have it. The light just lathe is sweet. That's my favorite.
Starting point is 01:24:25 That's my favorite fucking sweep. So now you want to open up something. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to get my own gym going. Like I said, I've got big plans for it. I want to do tournaments and all that stuff. But I've got a bunch of students right now that really are kind of just waiting on me. I'm waiting.
Starting point is 01:24:45 I love it. I love for you to... You know, I know that your school's going to be smaller at first, you know, so you have to grow. When I did the whatever thing, I only did it for 90 days, because I knew by then you'd get going, you know, up here. I have the other thing to begin a class to group on also. So I'm just waiting for you to come up here and get. What's your vision for your school?
Starting point is 01:25:05 What do you want out of your, we all want something out of, I mean, I just want a place where people can train pretty much all hours of the day. That'd be nice. Like Cabrini does that. It's just kind of an open format. You can come in and drill, even if it's not a class designated, time and he's there pretty much all the time. And, you know, you can even, if it's tough, people commute so you can bring food. You can take a nap on the couch or the mats or whatever
Starting point is 01:25:37 if you want and you can just train. So you can make it fit your schedule because not a lot of people have time that is just, just fits perfectly in with what maybe the school that they're attending runs classes at. So it's just nice to be able to offer that variety. So maybe if you, only can train like for three hours in this one chunk two days a week, right? But you normally would like to train like six days a week. Then at least you have the ability. You could maybe take a class for two hours and then still drill for an hour afterwards or whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Something like that, I think, is just a great thing to have just because, you know, I love the sport. You love the sport. and if you can spend as much time as you can work into your life to spend, then that's always a cool thing for a gym to have. You know, it's amazing. I like Vemak. Like I said, they just don't have a Monday, Wednesday morning class or day class.
Starting point is 01:26:39 And I had a problem. I always have this one problem now. I get up early. You know, last night I went to bed at two, but I was walking around at 7 o'clock. I couldn't fucking believe it this morning. I was walking around at 7 o'clock. I'm like, Lord, you can't keep doing this. I didn't take a nap all day or anything.
Starting point is 01:26:56 I went to eat my wife, but I don't even know what the fuck I was going to say now. It's amazing how I can't train at night. I'll do it if you put a gun to my head, but I'm not going to give you the best results. And I asked John when I go, John, I have a hard time training after 8. And he goes, my girlfriend has the same problem. She has to do it early in the morning. That's when you're breathing is up, your focus is up more. something just doesn't click at night.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Something just does not click from the hip escapes to when I'm running around the gym. It just didn't do it for me. The daytime, I think I paid more attention. So for me, the days work better, you know. Well, learning any martial art takes a lot of, like, brain power. And after a full day of work, I mean, you're almost, I don't know how you could absorb it. That's why, like, the work days over. No, but it wasn't even that as much as my cardio.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Oh, okay. So like physically. Yeah, physically, mentally, I'm fried. Yeah, that's part of it. Like by 6 o'clock, I've heard every fucking mind fuck in the world and auditions and this and that. And you're like, you know what? I have something else on my mind or whatever.
Starting point is 01:28:03 You know, you have that one. I don't know. It's just me and late nights just don't work. And for years, I did it at the while. I lived in Hollywood. If I didn't have a spot, I'd go swim or something or I hit the bag, you know? Not anymore. Now it's just basically I like my shit that they're.
Starting point is 01:28:18 So I don't know what it was. Everybody's different. That's, you know, when I was 400 pounds before the character, Joey Karate came about, when I was like 3.75, I joined Tang Su-Sudo. I joined Taekwondo. It's Sub-Bakdo.
Starting point is 01:28:39 It was Chuck Norris' style before he went to Tang-Sudo and just kept the Tang-Sudo. This is a Sub-Bak-Doh. It's not bad. It's Taekwondo, guys. But the teacher there was a really sharp guy. His name was Kevin Najir. Nijir is his last name. In fact, he was doing so bad on the Taekwondo end of it.
Starting point is 01:28:59 This is why I respect Najir. He was doing so bad on the Taekwondo end of it. He belonged to a federation. So he went to the Federation. He goes, hey, man, you know, because of the UFC, ain't nobody joining Taekwondo schools no more. All right, they're joining fucking kickboxing and jujitsu. Or then, what's his name, came back?
Starting point is 01:29:21 You know, the Shodakana guy. Machita. Machita. And then karate school started filling up a little bit more that Monday. But until three or four years ago, martial arts was traditionally, a traditional martial arts was very quiet. It takes a lot for somebody to go join a Hopkito. You know, they're going to go join kickboxing.
Starting point is 01:29:37 It's the end thing. So he wasn't doing too well with the Tangsudo. He called the Koreans, and they said, no, you got to pay the $2,000. the month and he goes and fuck you and he went and he joined gracy brothers the twins and twines and he took their course and he got a blue belt and they certified him to do combatives so that's like jiu-jitsu where you don't wrestle i guess you don't roll or something and he opened that school and he says it's fucking amazing because he gets all anywhere where people get beat up he gets the students he goes every week i see a guy coming with a sling on his arm going i want to sign up i got
Starting point is 01:30:16 beat up at Gracie Baja, or I got beat up at 10 planet, or I got beat up at this school in Hollywood. So he gets like a lot of executives and stuff. And one day I bumped into him. He's like, how come you don't come to Taekwondo anymore? He knew my drug problem. He knew everything. He's a good guy. I told him.
Starting point is 01:30:32 At the time, this is like 2004, 2020. Joe, you don't understand. If you just come into see me once a week, it'll help you. And I'm like, this guy is just a salesman. And about two weeks ago, three weeks ago, I saw something that people had just worked out five minutes a day once a week live longer than people who didn't fucking work out at all.
Starting point is 01:30:53 So, you know, little things like that. I've learned great things from different martial arts teachers, you know. I've been blessed. I've never had a bad, like, phony. Like, you can tell when you sign up at the schools that they're phonies and shit. I've heard of all those stories. I've never had that, you know. And especially now, jiu-jitsu.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Everybody's got to be good with jihitsu, because it's on the way up. Nobody's going to have a really bad school now, you know, because the word gets out. I mean, in today's, you have forums, you have fucking forums, you have more forums, and you have the internet,
Starting point is 01:31:30 which, you know, you can't do nothing bad. You can't do something crooked, you know, so that's your fucking question, Lee? You can't keep doing marijuana products when coming on the podcast. I was right. You slow down the whole fucking momentum. the mother show it. You understand me. You've got to be alive
Starting point is 01:31:46 here. John Evans here. You've got to do a good fucking impression. Impression of who? Of you. You got to make a good impression. Oh, okay. When John Evans opens up a school, you're going to join his beginner class and go there once a week and see him? That's scary, but yeah,
Starting point is 01:32:01 what's so scary about it? This is John Evan. This is your brother now. No, he's not scary. No, they're not going to do nothing to you. We just talked about this for a fucking out. No, it's not about them. It's just like me doing it. You're beautiful. You'll be fine. Within two years you'll be a Jewish killer Fuck Krav Maga
Starting point is 01:32:19 You understand You'll be fucking those Krav Magan motherfuckers up But you're a Jewish jujitsu Do you know somebody ordered a shirt today from Israel And my wife doesn't know how to do the letters Somebody ordered a church shirt from Israel Today she goes totally to come over here Somebody order the shirt from fucking Israel
Starting point is 01:32:37 Whatever that's hysterical Let me give some shout out to you real quick Some people I'm listening. Bill Schwartz, I love you, Cocksucker, Joe Kodner, Clayton Webb, Cleo, you sexy bitch, JQ, Andrew Southern, Oscar Nunes down there in South Florida, and Jamie Hager. Thank you for listening to the show and whatnot. All right, so you're doing this page over, the BJJ submissions. Yes. And what do you want it to have next? Like? I'm just redoing the website completely. It's going to have, I want it to have forums. so people can complain about stuff. No, but it'll have forums. It'll have like a store so you can buy, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:22 some cool Jiu-Jitsu merchandise if you want to. It's also going to be the website that we're going to use for the school too. So the students will be able to log on there and talk about whatever they want to. But yeah, and it's going to have all the videos of the breakdowns, and it'll have the live streams of the tournaments and everything. So right now it's still in the old form, but I've been working on it for a couple of weeks and some of the functionality.
Starting point is 01:33:46 I'm the only one working on it, so some of the functionality goes down from time to time while I'm trying to fix it. Like all the videos on the main page, there's just like one thumbnail that works right now, so sorry about that. But mainly, I think most of the people that watch my breakdowns, they just go to YouTube.com slash BJJ Breakdown,
Starting point is 01:34:05 and that's where you can find all of that stuff. And I apologize. I haven't been updating it that well because I've been working on the website. I tell you what I loved about your videos that you put circles. So it's like, you know, the football guy. Madden, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Oh, you tell us straight? Yeah, yeah, tell us right. Yeah, so they put circles and shit. And that, you know, like I said, when I first looked at, I thought it was like what the Gracie brothers do. Yeah. But they do the UFC and they do moves.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Yes. What you did, you know, and there's a show called, what's the show on 11 o'clock on Saturdays now on Fox? Fucking interesting show about comedians. I have no idea. Labs, jokes. And it's Hostetler, Steve Hosletler comes up, and he goes,
Starting point is 01:34:46 why don't you watch this guy from Kentucky? So you get all these younger guys to get exposure, which is what you're doing with your page, which I really, there's something there. There's something else there, you know, there is something. You know, anybody could see Chuck LaDow, anybody could watch, you know, GSP, anybody could watch, you know, you go to these tournaments and stuff like that, but to watch young guys, you know, like, and just,
Starting point is 01:35:11 Because I think the people who submitted, just regular people submit this. Sometimes, like the last few, it's just been like, I think one was a white belt competitor and another one was a blue belt competitor. A blue belt, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, like, so I'll throw,
Starting point is 01:35:26 they'll say, hey, I've got this guy that he wants some exposure. Can you put commentary on this match? And I'll look at it. I'll take it from anyone. I think there's stuff to learn from anyone. And if you look at, like, the top guys, you look at like a Hodder Gracie or Cabrini or something like that.
Starting point is 01:35:40 like they were all white belts at some point too. You know, I might be commentating on their matches. Like, I put commentary on this kid from Otos, who was just, I mean... What's his name? Sam? No, well, there's Michael Leera, who's the brown belt, who does the sleeve drag that I showed you. But, no, he was a younger kid. And I saw him at Blue Belt when he was still in the juvenile division. and I commentated on it because he has a really good match.
Starting point is 01:36:13 And, I mean, now he is like one of the absolute top purple belts in the adult division. What's his name? His name, oh my God, I'm drawing a blank. He's going to kill me. Rolando, Rolando Sampson. And he is sick. It was so good. And I was fortunate enough to catch him kind of early.
Starting point is 01:36:30 So, you know, he may be a black belt world champion. Same with my friend Isaac that I train with. He pretty much wins. just about everything that he does now. But when I was commentating, or when I showed some of his stuff and did a technique video with him, you know, he wasn't at the level where he's at now. So it's cool to show some of the up-and-comers. But I also commentate on the professional matches, too.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Or professionals, they can get the highest-level black belt one. So, you know, I think it's all good. You can learn from every single one of those people. So whether you learn what not to do from the white belts or maybe something that they don't even know what they did is technically wrong maybe, but they do it so well that you can't say that it's wrong anymore. And then it's like, well, they just discovered a new way to do something because they don't know enough to know that it's bad. You know, like no one's told them no, so they figure out this new way to do it and it might be the best way to do that one thing. So you can see all
Starting point is 01:37:31 kinds of cool things from all levels. And yeah, I don't know. I just, I like that. You know, One thing I realize, I'm no genius, and I don't know none about Jiu-Jitsu like most guys, but when I watched the Eddie Bravo match against Gracie, whatever, Hoyler on the Meta-Morris, not this one with the previous one, I learned one thing, or at least I picked up something, that there is a market for jujitsu. There is a market for jihitsu. I can't figure it out because I don't know. I don't know little things about it.
Starting point is 01:38:06 See, that's one to be the problem. It's going to be people that want to do the, put the jiu-jitsu on TV. You don't really know how to put it on TV, and the guys that know how to do the thing don't have time to put it on fucking TV. You know, somebody has to get a happy medium. It's not going to be comedy in jih Tzu. It's not going to be jiu-jitsu and girls, because I don't want to see fucking girls.
Starting point is 01:38:30 I want to see two guys just have a match. Maybe it's just for eight minutes. Maybe it's just for nine minutes. Maybe it's the concept is there. I hope that somebody puts it together. And somebody will. Somebody will on a small scale and they'll just evolve into something bigger, you know, like the UFC did. You know, look what the UFC has done in 10 years.
Starting point is 01:38:50 It's been leaves and bounce, man. So I'm a fan, you know, I can't believe that, and I say this all the time, most people at my age fucking dump their wife and buy a Corvette and take Viagra and fuck a bunch of young dumb chicks. me I joined Jiu-Jitsu and wrestle with other fucking fat fucks and smell people's assholes and I had a baby. You know, only I could fucking do something like that. But it keeps my powder dry. And that's the most important thing is just for it to work, you know. So thank you, John, for always being supportive and when I call you for answering the phone.
Starting point is 01:39:26 I've been blown away by Jiu-Jitsu. And anybody who's watched me the last two years knows that really, I just needed it. I needed something like that in my life, you know? We have hard fucking lives, man. And I say this every day. I go to the Y, every day, and I see people walk in there with their fucking phones. And I want to go up to them and say,
Starting point is 01:39:45 why are you doing this to yourself? Leave that motherfucker in the car. Come in here and break down your day. Break down yesterday. Break down your future. This is your hour, you know? I don't ever want to talk on the phone when I'm at the gym. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Who calls me, you know? But I needed that. And that's what you did too. me something to where that I could grow and not have this shit on my fucking mind all the time. Because trust me, when you have a motherfucker on top of you, you don't know what the fuck you're doing, it makes you think fast. You forget about fucking comedy. You start breathing, so it's just really been something.
Starting point is 01:40:20 I wish I would have got into this when I was 21. I really wish, and it wasn't around. It wasn't around, you know. If you guys ever want, come to my house. I'm going to show you the movie that started all. I got it off. El Ray. channel the other night, five fingers of death.
Starting point is 01:40:36 It says 1974, but that's completely wrong. That movie was released in like 71, and it really kicked up the martial arts commuting in this country, and then Bruce Lee came months after that, three months after that, Fist of Fury got released, then the Chinese fanc. Then we were off and fucking running, but I saw it grow, but Brazil, I never saw, like, and you're right,
Starting point is 01:40:59 it's on every corner, that fucking Jiu-Jitza. It really is, man, and there's no more. more karate schools left. There's a couple of them, right? There's a couple. Well, a V-Mac, they teach Showde-Con. There's a couple places left, but it's just too good, man. It's just too much fun, and I never knew it was going to be this much fun.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Lee, what's up, Godfusker? No, I think it's pretty cool that you do the commentating. Because I was a couple of fights ago, Rogan did like a fight companion thing, which at some point is better than what's on TV. So, like, I was saying at some point, they're going to be able, why couldn't they say, oh, Joey Diaz is commentating the Red Sox tonight, I'll switch to his channel. So, I mean, because you're just taking previously aired fights. You're not at the fight.
Starting point is 01:41:44 No, not even previously aired. Just like me and you wrestling. Oh, kind of competition or tournament or something. Yeah. So, like, it's just on a, like, a video camera. Yeah. So it's, it's, I mean, since we have the technology, it's kind of a cool thing to do with it. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:41:59 It's awesome. I mean, I, like, YouTube's weird and copyright stuff is really weird to me. So, like, just to make sure I don't step on any toes, and luckily, very few people have raised the question with me. Like, I'll go to the event and I'll just film it myself. So, just so I don't, even if they have their own broadcast or whatever, I just have a good camera and I just go there and, you know, still looks nice and just get my own video of it. So hopefully no questions asked there. Do you do it live or do you get back to your office? Oh, no, no. I wait until I get back because it's, you know, like I also, some things, like if I'm, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:39 maybe if I get video, whether it's submitted to me by someone that filmed it because they want, it's their friend that's fighting or whatever and they want the commentary on it. Or I filmed it there, like if it was at the Worlds and maybe even it can be sometimes like a black belt level where they have like a live broadcast going. like I couldn't live broadcast my own at the same time as them. It would be competing with them. You know, so, and I don't, you know, they've never, at least the IBJJF or Gudo videos or any of them. Like, they've never raised anything against me.
Starting point is 01:43:09 So that's, you know, they probably see, maybe they don't even know that it exists. And hopefully this doesn't bring it to their attention if they're going to be upset. But, you know, they probably, I would think that they would see merit in it and know that I'm putting it out like at a staggered interval. so that way it's just not conflicting with the product that they're trying to put out. And I do a lot of purple belts and stuff like that, which sometimes they don't even offer to purchase in their videos that they put out on DVD. So I try to keep it like that. So it's not, you know, I don't want to like take anything from anyone.
Starting point is 01:43:45 I just want to do like my own thing. I want to raise awareness to the sport. And hopefully maybe they'd even get more sales from it. And not to put you on the spot in. What is the ETA for the day? new and improved, BJJ, breakdown coming. It's going to be within the next month. So hopefully before October's over with,
Starting point is 01:44:05 then it should be up and going, hopefully sooner than that, but I don't want to, I don't want to. Where can they send videos to you? Like if somebody's at home listening, because you are going to get people going to send your shit now. Yeah, no, for sure. Like purple belts and stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:18 If you want to get viewed, you know, where do they send your stuff to? Yeah, you can send it to John, just J-O-HN at BJJB breakdown.com. I get all my emails from there and I sort through all of them. And sometimes depending on, lately it's been, I've been so busy with the new gym and the new website and all of that that I don't respond to you right away,
Starting point is 01:44:43 maybe not even within the first week or two, but I will get back to you, I swear. So send them over and I will get to them. Do you charge anybody to put it up on it? It's just totally free. It's totally free. $10 fucking submission fee. The sport is still, like I said, in my opinion, it's way too unpopular right now.
Starting point is 01:45:04 It's just not at the level that it should be. And, you know, I want to promote the sport. I want people to be more aware of it. So the thing that gets me is a lot of these top competitors are not being paid. Like I said, they're only hoped to get money from it is they dedicate their life to it and hope to God that you win something big like the world or pay. as a black belt and then open up your own gym and just hope that people come and train under you. And that's kind of like not a great way to live your life, especially when you've put in so much
Starting point is 01:45:36 hard work in such a rough sport, you know, and maybe you win one year and you lose the next and then you blow out your ACL or something or something that's, have a horrible accident and you can never compete again. And your life is kind of dependent on getting those medals. So people keep coming to you. I mean, that's just so rough. You know, I think people should be paid for their fights and for all the hard work that they've put in. So that's never going to happen until more people appreciate the sport and more people watch the sport. So I'm, I don't charge people to put my commentary or anything like that, at least right now, because it's just, you know, we just got to help each other out and promote the sport. And, you know, it's, for me, it's awesome
Starting point is 01:46:21 if there's a top brown belt and he like maybe wins pan ams and then they send me some videos I put commentary and then I'll get in the comment section like maybe the mom or the grandparents or something would be like oh thank you so much because I had no idea what was going on in this match you know I know my son or my daughter or whatever does this thing and I don't really understand it and you know I watch it and I don't know what's going on but I know they won but now it makes more sense and that for me that's awesome so That's the other thing that people aren't educated on it. You know, years ago, I think somebody, one of the channels,
Starting point is 01:46:58 would have like 10 minutes dedicated to football for women. You know, as dumb as that sounds, women know more about some women know more than guys. And that's the other thing. People are just not educated. And when people, and it would take a long time. Like, just because I've been with you for a while, I couldn't commentate. I don't know what the fuck is going on or even close in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:47:19 but one time I got put in the spot on one of those MMA shows, and I just blew it. I think they put me on the spot just to get me out of the business or something like that. No, it's a beautiful thing that you do with this, and I wish more people knew. And it's, you know, you said it a couple times during class, and this goes across the board for Kempo.
Starting point is 01:47:41 It's a hard life when you get into martial arts to be a teacher. And yeah, sometimes you could open up six schools, and do this and that. And you know, as a martial artist, you can't have six fucking schools unless you're fucking Superman, you know, and there is money in it. The thing I've always loved about karate teachers,
Starting point is 01:48:01 jujitoo teachers, you know they're not making a million dollars. They do this because they genuinely love this. And that's something that you can't say about a lot of fucking people getting a rut and they keep a job they hate because of the paycheck, whatever. With jujitsu, it's like, Nijia. Nijia goes, I got into this to make 20,000 a year.
Starting point is 01:48:22 That's it. He goes, and that's my life, 20,000 a year. But when I take a kid who's got no athleticism, and after eight years and nine years, he becomes a black belt. Let's say in Taekwondo. He goes, that's a million dollars to me. I know for a guy like John, when he sees me do a move that he couldn't see me do two weeks ago, now I do it. He's got to feel good because I stuck with it.
Starting point is 01:48:45 He didn't do something in that. vain. You know, the thing that I hate about martial arts instructing would be, I got to teach the same shit to 30 people that walk in that door, and out of those 30 people, three are going to stay. That's the downfall.
Starting point is 01:49:01 That's where your frustrations come in, that things have, you know, and John's got a great attitude. He goes, things happen in life. You might get a night job. We have a great student at the school, Kyle. Kyle got a fucking job from 2 to 10. He can't come no more. What are you going to do? You got to quit your fucking job?
Starting point is 01:49:17 nothing you can do. He's got the job for three months. What are you going to fucking do? You got to pay your bills. It's not that he's being lazy. Last time I checked the schedule, nobody's doing a midnight jiu-jitsu fucking class. Could you imagine it wouldn't be that bad?
Starting point is 01:49:30 I wonder who the fuck would show up to a midnight jujitu insomniac, motherfucker, is that? You would one night. I can't do a mid-fucking class. You would. If you weren't let them act, like, Law & Order, two joints in, and you were still up. Oh, fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:45 Yeah, you would. Fuck, yeah. The only reason why I won't go to Jiu-Jitsu at 6 or 7 in the morning because somebody's going to hit me with a shot of bad breath or an armpit or rotten ass, I'm going to have a fucking heart attack right there in the goddamn morning. Today's over at that point. Oh, I've been to kickboxing at 10 with people that don't bathe early.
Starting point is 01:50:03 That's a fucking nightmare. That's the only reason. At least after 11 o'clock Jiu-Jitsu, they've had breakfast or lunch. You go to 7 o'clock class of anything. People are going to be rotten, you know, breathing on your fucking neck and shit. Anyway, let me get some shout out of this sponsor. Get the fuck out of here. Lee's too high to even sit here.
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Starting point is 01:55:54 What do you think about that, Pete? That's what I'm missing right now? That's right. What are you going to do the rest of the night that you're all fucked up? Look at the shit. I'm going to go home and go to sleep. Sleep?
Starting point is 01:56:02 There's no sleep in your fucking future. I'm so high. And now you're going to go see John Evan when it opens up his school? You're going to at least promise me. I'll try a class, yeah. One class. You don't love it.
Starting point is 01:56:11 You're going to come back. No, I know I will. That's why I'm nervous about it. You're not going to fucking, the next time Paulusies, you'll be like 110 pounds. You're like you got fucking the hiv or something. That's how good you're going to look.
Starting point is 01:56:22 If you go to Jitza, trust me. I love it to compliment. You'll look like you're at the hiv. See what? Your jaws protruding, your eyebrows. Who the fuck knows? What do you got playing the rest of the week, John ever talking about for me?
Starting point is 01:56:36 What's your next move? What's your next competition? Are you going to enter anything in 40 years out? I am that is an excellent question I had big plans to compete but I mean now it's trying to get the gym open and all of that that's proved to be a bit more work than I previously thought so I'm not sure if not this year I will definitely compete as much as possible next year but yeah I just trying to get set up so that me and my training partners all have a good place to just train all the time and then we can get ready to hit these tournaments up to together so now one last question I know you got to go ask your question when you let's say I say to you John I want to I want to do Gracie white belt tournament and it's January 10th okay what do I do I come see you eight weeks before like what is there is a difference from a fight trading from the jitou tournament
Starting point is 01:57:33 you just want to make sure with a jiu jitzy tournament that you well first of all you don't want to learn anything depending if this is just going to be like your one jujitsu tournament rather than like i'm going to compete every once a month every month if it's just going to be your one jujitsu tournament you want to limit the amount of new things that you're learning like right before the tournament because you're not going to be able to use that stuff anyway you're just going to use the stuff that you've trained a lot so you don't want to learn anything brand new right before you just want to work on your basics um on your game it's more of a mental thing and you want to make sure you're in really good shape.
Starting point is 01:58:12 So you work your cardio a lot and you'll train hard. Just to make sure, because if you've never done a tournament before, that adrenaline dump hits you, and as good as shape as you think you're in, you get to a tournament and you feel like you just want to die. And it's the worst feeling ever. If that happens, say, two minutes into your five-minute match, and then it's just three minutes of some dude just running all over you.
Starting point is 01:58:35 It's horrible. So, yeah, you know, like, if you're going to come to me, then come to me, let me know what you're going to do, what you want to do competition-wise, and then we'll get you in good shape. Of course, if you plan to do a lot of tournaments, then you still want to be in pretty good shape, but then you have to constantly learn stuff,
Starting point is 01:58:54 so you don't have to worry about learning stuff right before tournament or whatever because you're going to do another one the next month, and that's honestly the best way to do it. It helps keep the nerves down. So do one every month, you think? If you can, yeah. If you can do one every two weeks,
Starting point is 01:59:08 that's awesome too. You just come in a lot less nervous. There's a lot less to lose. It's not such a big scary thing anymore. The more you compete. It's just like anything else. So if you go to one big one. You know, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Maybe it's scary and you weren't prepared for it. And then that's your only tournament for the year or for the half year or something. And then your next one, you're going to have that thought in your mind. You know, if you didn't win that one, it's going to be lingering. And you'll maybe be a little more scared or tentative. in the next one, which is never a good thing. So you want to be confident and comfortable going out and not too full of anxiety, if possible.
Starting point is 01:59:48 So there's like a blue belt out there right now. Like when I do my shows, I do my shows in all these towns, and towns are big, some towns are small. You know, I've heard about people who don't have. They're living like smaller town. They don't have six different fucking jiu-jitsu just on Burbank Boulevard, you know? And they either, like I heard,
Starting point is 02:00:07 what's the UFC fighter who died? He told himself Jiu-Jitsu didn't he by watching tapes at home. You talk about not Evan Tanna. Yes. Oh, my God. Wow. Old school. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Evan Tanners. He was great. Yeah. Evan Tanna supposedly taught himself a lot of stuff. I don't know how true this is, so please don't quote me on this. But by watching tapes, you know. So people have questions. So my contest, my tournament is January 10th.
Starting point is 02:00:30 It's the second Saturday of January. When do I sit down and start? What is my training regimen to do? Am I like a boxer do? Do I run every morning? Do I spar hard every day? You know, what is it like for somebody at home that doesn't have a million dollars? Sure.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Yeah. Zach. Let's say Zach. Sure. I was going to do a big tournament in January. Well, a big part of it is just being your own critic and making sure you're like your own taskmaster, right? Like you don't want to like sometimes you go to a class and. and you do your technique and you're kind of like lazy or bored
Starting point is 02:01:12 or just don't feel like pushing it. And then, I mean, of course you have to listen to your body if you're injured or something or there's a potential for injury, you've got to back off. But if it's just like, oh, I just don't feel that great or whatever, then, you know, make sure that your sleep's in order and your food's in order so you're not, you know, you're not under, you know, malnourished or underslept.
Starting point is 02:01:35 And you're getting the recovery you need to. And make sure that if, if you're not, you know, you can't do that. Like some people cannot train hard every day. It's just not a good way for their body to work, especially if you're older. And even if you're younger, honestly, like a lot of people just kind of can get through it because they're younger, but it's maybe not the best for their body. But you should be at least training really hard, in my opinion, every other day, at the very least. And you want to be going a lot of rounds and push yourself. So if you feel like real tired and you're going to maybe puke or whatever,
Starting point is 02:02:08 try to keep yourself at around that level. Like, don't let yourself puke, but keep yourself at that, kind of like your cardio's redlining, and just sit in that pocket and get used to just push in the pace and try to go with people that are better than you, try to go with people that are as good as you, so that way you're constantly being forced to push yourself.
Starting point is 02:02:32 And I think that's a really important thing leading up to a tournament, because the intensity level, If you train real lazy and you get a little complacent and you don't push yourself too hard and you're used to, oh, well, this guy's going to pull guard, he's going to grab my collar and we're going to sit down and have a nice little roll and it'll be good. And if I get too tired, I can just stop training after the third roll or whatever. And you go to a tournament and some guy grabs the back of your head and it feels like the hand
Starting point is 02:02:56 of God. Yeah. And, you know, they're fighting you like their family's on the line and you're just not used to that. It's a shock to the system. And that is not a place where you want to be. shocked in a tournament where your nerves are already killing you, you'll start to doubt yourself and then tournament's over, basically. You have to have that positive mental attitude if I can beat this guy. And, you know, like, it's very important. So you got to train hard leading up to it for sure.
Starting point is 02:03:21 That's really important. So a lot of mat time, a lot of hard training. And then maybe strength and conditioning, depending on what your body can handle. The conditioning more than the strength, depending on the body type, usually like two to three days a week for strength. and conditioning. That's what I recommend. This is the real fucking deal. That's if you're really going for it. Well, you heard it here tonight.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Look at the shape of this fucking... Look at the shape of you. What? You're not, your eyes are almost close, too. No. Yes, sir. No, fucking throwing me into the bus. It's the day the devil was buried.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Let's see. Look at how you act. I'm sorry, Mr. Devil. You look good, though, brother. Thank you. All right. He's lost 50 pounds last two months. You know, Zach always breaks.
Starting point is 02:04:05 Zach always breaks my balls. Whenever I go to J-Jitsu, Zach's like, where's the flying juke? Zach is your biggest fan. You got to go surprise. I would love to see Zach. I want to put a ghee on you and make you go over there one day
Starting point is 02:04:15 and see Zach. He would be, you would make his fucking life if you went over there one day. You would just be so happy. He's a guy to let you beat him up. He would say, right, get on top of me, choke me, fucking pull my eye, whatever. That'd be nice.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Who doesn't want to beat him up sometimes? Shut the fuck up. Cuck up. Look at those are Nick Papadack's sticks. Nice. Yeah, he dropped some sticks off. It was just terrifying. I was hitting him in the light.
Starting point is 02:04:40 Yeah, he was testing my freaking, what is it called? Reactions? I want to see his reaction. You know, when they kick it. Revelexes. Yeah. You got to test those. How were they?
Starting point is 02:04:48 They were good. They were good. How could he hit? They were good. He does that. He's like, yeah, I get knocked out of practice. How could that have been peeling with somebody? He still can't get over.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Then Nick hits people in the head. On purpose. It's like, now like an attack. It's like, they go there with their sticks. Like, yeah, I'm going to get hit in the head today. Oh, my God. It's a good setup. Yeah, you pay him. He hits you in there. I love you, John Evan.
Starting point is 02:05:14 I thank you very much for coming on tonight. Doc. I mean, there was a confusing call with Doc because I didn't really know what directs them to go. I want to give a shout out to my people down in San Diego. The Revolutionine, the fucking medical marijuana delivery, Alphametic. And my girl, Jessica, down there.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Every time Jessica comes up, she brings me a present from Alphamette. So I was going to give them a shout out. So thank you. John Evan, thank you. I want people to keep in touch you. So they're on BJJ submission.com. BJJ Breakdown. Breakdown.
Starting point is 02:05:44 Okay, and that's where they could find you and send your emails and tapes and stuff like that. Do you have Twitter? I do. It's under BJJ Breakdown. Okay. At BJJ Breakdown. YouTube.com slash BJJ Breakdown.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Probably the best place to find my videos right now while I'm redoing your website. How many videos you got up? Like around 100, I think. No shit. Yeah, something like that. Oh, all right. I only found like three of them.
Starting point is 02:06:08 Oh, no, yeah, there's a bunch. And these are the ones with the circles on them and everything? Okay. Tell us straight there. Do you have, like, one fight? Like, not just one, but do you have one that sticks out of one that people can look up to see what it's like? Like, a good example of it? I mean, any of the more recent black belt ones, like maybe a Leandro Lowe or Adolfo Vieira fight,
Starting point is 02:06:33 I've done a couple of theirs more recently and those are pretty good just because they're exciting fighters. It makes my job easy to call it. It's fun to watch so. Thank you, brother. Thank you too, Lisea. We'll be back Tuesday night with the church of what's
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