The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #222 - Joey Diaz, Rigan Machado and Lee Syatt

Episode Date: October 15, 2014

Rigan Machado, Jiu Jitsu Master and Coach joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. Go to The Academy in Beverly Hills. Talk to Rigan and mention this show and get 2 weeks free. www.theacademybe...verlyhills.com Info for the Jiu Jitsu Camp with all of the Machado brothers in Dallas that Rigan talks about can be found here:http://www.rcjmachadopro.com/ This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout. Nature Box. Visit Naturebox.com and use promo code Joey for a free trial box Naileditlife.com - Get 20% off a vapor pen by mentioning the Church. Meundies.com Go to meundies.com/joey for 20% off. Recorded live on 10/14/2014. Music: Foo Fighters - Best Of You Foo Fighters - Cover of War Pigs from The Late Show With David Letterman

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Starting point is 00:01:54 Joey Diaz, Lysayat still recovering from the edibles and that battery acid Ari's brought last night, but we're here. Special edition, the church, cock suckers. Oh shit. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Since he's talking about the best, I got the best on the show tonight. Mr. Higin Machado joins us on the church of what's happened now this evening. What's happening, brother? It's a pleasure to be here, my friend. Oh, my God, this is, we have a very special guest. And I mean, my heart's about the break. I'm so excited. Lee, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:02:34 I'm still high. I can still feel it. How are you feeling, bro? You're not feeling too good. No, I feel fine. That last edible killed. The devil. The last two.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Because we took it before, and then you passed it on twice during the show. No, I just, it took me a while to get to the gym today. Because even though you like it, I'm not at the point here where I liked going high. So I had to wait until, like, three. I could finally get out of bed. But I ate everything. at the house last. I was going to take today off from the gym, but I ate everything last night. I woke up this morning. My throat was dry. I was thirsty. At 6 o'clock I got up and drank a gallon
Starting point is 00:03:09 of electrocuted water. And I couldn't go back to sleep because I knew how to pee. I said, fuck it. I stayed up. I went to acupuncture. I went to a jihit-to today with salami. He threw me around a little bit on my knee up there at 10th Planet. And that was it. I didn't do shit today. I went to an audition. and hung out with the baby. I went to this place in Sherman Oaks where you take your kid and they lose their fucking mind. They're like 10 rooms, bacon, a supermarket. Everything's rubber.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Everything's rubber. It's amazing. Everything is rubber. I banged my head on the brick wall. It's amazing. The shopping carts, the cans. It's like a fake grocery store? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I had groceries, a medic, a kitchen, a basketball thing, cars. It's for little kids. Oh, so they can play. Twelve bucks. Wow. I signed her up for like six things just to take her in the mornings before. I go to Jiu-Jitsu or something just so she gets her shit off before Wally Kazam. Because she's 18 months, man.
Starting point is 00:04:06 She fucking runs around. I'm an old man. I can't chase her. So I take it to the park in the mornings. I go to the park like at 8.30 with her and I keep her there until 10.30. And, you know, she runs. I run with her and I walk with her. But, you know, it's too much.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'm too much of an old man. But that was my fucking day. That's it. Higiton Machado. What's happening, my brother? My friend, I'm so excited to be here. I'm very excited to be here. I mean, you know, I started Jiu-Jitsu a year ago
Starting point is 00:04:32 and since day one, everybody kept saying to me, did you go see Higna Machia? Did you go see Higna Machelo? And everybody else has talked to me about John Jock. You got to go to John Jock. You got to go to John Junk. But all the other guys, the big guys were, you got to go to Higna Machado.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So when I found out you were doing the seminar at street sports, what's his name? Renato. Hanato Magna. Anato Man. He's your first black guy. Hennat was one, in the United States was one of the 12 guys.
Starting point is 00:04:59 The first 12 guys I made a black belt in the United States. And they all started down in Redondo. In Redondo Beach, yes. Redondo Beach. The first school, I think was the second school we opened. We have one school in the Valley. And after that, we opened another school in Redondo Beach. And the first group of students who got the black belt
Starting point is 00:05:23 starting Redondo Beach. How long does it take? I mean, I know everyone's different, but like, let's say a normal person starts jiu-jitsu today. Like, how many years does it take, do you think? It's like it's up to the student because you're very consistent. You train every day in four or five years. You have a chance to get your black belt.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Oh, wow. Okay. But you go once a week or two times a week, you break, have big breaks. It's going to take a little bit longer. I can take between four to 10 years, but it's up to the student. The students consistent, he's going to get quick in his belt. That's really cool. Well, because I know, because Joey's talked about it for a year,
Starting point is 00:06:07 and then there's been a lot of guests on who are involved, and it seems like the more you do it, the more addicted you go, and you just start going more and more. So if you start out doing once a week, you're going to end up after six months going five days a week. You know, the more you get in shape, the more you, you know, your body gets used to it. I bet you could go.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I've gone three times in one week, and it's been how I walked around sore. But at least that was a goal of mine just to do three times. You know, first you go once, then you go twice, and then you go three times. You know, I hope some of that can go four times or five times. But right now, you know, if you go online and read and this and this, I mean, the Internet loves you. You're like, I mean, BJ Penn says you're one of the greatest grapplers in the planet at one time. Oh, BJ is a sweet guy. I know BJ for so long.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I remember the first time I bet BJ, he was a blue belt. He used to train half grace in San Francisco. I have opportunity to met him some competition, very sweet guy, but a lot of ability. I remember when he came to my academy, he was a purple belt, and he submitted everybody. from Blue Belt to Black Belt. I was very impressed. I said, you keep going, you're going to be a world champion. And he went to Brazil.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Was the first black belt, I believe, outside Brazil to be a world champion. In the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, in Brazil. I remember that. I remember one day I have opportunity to talk to him and say, man, you keep going because you continue on the MMA. you have strong hands. I think you can be UFC champion. He did.
Starting point is 00:07:54 He went all the way to the top. So how old were you the first time you got involved with Jiu-Jitsu? When I was younger, I have a little bit kind of dyslexia. My mother was very close to Carlos Grace, the founder of the sport of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I have problems with Cornish.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I have problems. in speaking. I had probably in school. In early age and Carlos was a nutritionist, was a doctor, he was the founder who created ideas for the family
Starting point is 00:08:32 growing in the sport. One of the ideas of Carlos, let me bring him, this kid to do jiu-jitsu and do the grace diet. And I started living with Carlos and I have consistency to have his
Starting point is 00:08:48 attention to try to overcome these little problems I had as a child. And I end up getting addicted. I started, I live with him, move to Rio. He was a school in full-time training for 10 years straight, no start. But I started very early. I start around 5 to 6 years old. But I started real training full-time around 14, like. five, maybe six hours a day.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Five, six hours a day. So you left your family and to move with him? Not left my family because my family live in the country, live like in a city called Terezol, which was two hours from the big city. My father didn't want us to grow up on the big city. My father wanted us to have play with dogs, the right horses, walk to school.
Starting point is 00:09:47 he want to give us a chance to be a kid. He didn't want us to grow up inside an apartment in real. It was very nice. We have the best childhood, but the moment I start getting like 14 years old, I move to Carlos Grace House, leave with my cousin. He was full-time training.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Now, what was that house like? Everybody was there, right? I mean, all the greats to the eggs and all those people were there. When they leave your Carlos Grace, he had a house in Ipanema, Ipanema Beach. And the house has four floors. The last floor of the last floor of the house, he had a big space. He put mats. And all the boys have his own metrics to put on top the mats to sleep.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Finish the roll and put on the corner. And when they get ready to sleep, they will. everybody rolled a mattress, sleep, like I have maybe 10, sometimes 20 people sleep on the mat. All cousins and brothers. It's a camp, like a full-time camp. Like, wake up early, right there. We put the gear, start training even before breakfast. I remember waking up, like, roll the match, put the gear, still have sleep.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Okay, let's train little beer. That's how we start the day. Joe, you've talked about it a lot about how basketball camp as a little kid, you would come back and be a thousand times better. So if you're living at, like, the master's house. I can't even imagine. Yeah. I can't even imagine what you guys were going.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And this is an early year. And you guys just train, train, train, train. How old were you when you started competing? I started a very serious competition around 14. Like competing almost every event, every event, every weekend was I was addicted
Starting point is 00:11:51 I got hooked yeah I want to compete whatever any place I have competition I didn't know I didn't care as a small competition big competition I want to compete
Starting point is 00:12:02 and what were the big competitions in Brazil that the biggest competition was by the federation under Hobson Grace St. Helio Gracie
Starting point is 00:12:13 which was everybody come to compete. It was the World Championship at the time. And that was, I believe, two times or three times a year have these big events. And I remember was amazing because you see all the best fighters come to a big generation. It was a war at the time. Was it from money or sponsorship, or was it all just to win? It was for prestige and owner. I believe at that time, people didn't care about money, didn't care much about anything. They care about to prove and to be respect.
Starting point is 00:12:52 There was based, like, at the time, growing up, that's what was about. You know, when I was growing up, when I came from Cuba, a couple years later, Bruce Lee hit, 1969, 70, and I saw how karate and Kung Fu, and I had heard of jih Tzu,
Starting point is 00:13:10 but it was nowhere. You know, it was nowhere in New York at the time. You know, even when I spoke to Matt Sera, Matt Sarah said when he started Jiu-Jitsu, he had to go from Long Island all the way to Red Bank, New Jersey. One day a week, the guy would show up. One day a week on a Sunday,
Starting point is 00:13:24 you had to drive four hours to train for three hours and then drive back. That was his Sundays, you know. And it's amazing how Jiu-Jitsu is just taken over now, like Kung Fu was in 1970. When did you decide to come to the States? The reason came to, America at the time
Starting point is 00:13:46 because... How old were you the first time? I was 22 when the first time I came. And you came to compete or just to look? No, I always want to I everything was
Starting point is 00:13:59 I have a cousin who lived in San Francisco a cousin named Cesar Gracie. The Cesar Grace was in my house in Rio for almost a year. And Cesar, I was talking about here, America is different, it's more opportunity,
Starting point is 00:14:17 you need to come over. When they decided, okay, I'm going to give the shot, I stay in San Francisco if he sees a little bit. I call another case of mine who live in Los Angeles, Horium. Horium said Higgan, come to L.A. because it was just hoarding hoist.
Starting point is 00:14:43 teaching. If they used to teach the garage, you need help because it's time for us to get everybody together to try to open the first Grace Academy. And I said, okay, let's give the shot. I came and I helped Horium. And I remember the same time I was over there, I helped Horneum came. Higson came. And it was Higson, me, Royce, and Hortium teaching the garage. And Bays, I remember we have all kinds, only private students, a small group class we teach in the garage, and little by little start grow from there. Because now I was just hoist and horrid teach, now I have Hickson, myself, some other students that come from Brazil to help. That's when they start few things start growing. And my brother
Starting point is 00:15:39 came, my brothers came and we started decide to, oh, let's go to the valley open another school and Hickson opened his school and pretty soon start growth from there. But I remember the
Starting point is 00:15:53 Horton was the pioneer in the United States. What year was this? This on the 9, 1999, something like that. Wow, so 22 years ago. Yeah. And you guys already had the vision for Jiu-Jitsu 22 years ago, because the UFC didn't come around until 98 or something, right?
Starting point is 00:16:13 I think USC was the dynamic, it was the explosion. Because before, I remember, was reading the magazines, like Black Belt or inside karate, the magazine, Marsh Wars at the time. And they have Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Ben your Kids, Zinnabelle, was the only rap at the time. but didn't have nothing about ground fight. Nothing. I remember when the first UFC Hoy's
Starting point is 00:16:44 had opportunity to submit people on the ground was a shock for the world of martial after these, everybody wanted to training Shuzhizu. And that was the time Jiu Jiuz explode. I remember when they opened my school, I have 100 appointments. People want to do in one day, like people calling.
Starting point is 00:17:05 to train it, to try. Was crazy. I remember, was for me, teaching was the most best time ever. It was like 20 class every day, privates. 20 classes. Oh, it was crazy. That's why I stuck out my brothers in Brazil to help me, to come to help, because it was too much.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And I was a friend of Chuck Norris, and Chuck Norris helped us. and Chuck Norse did advertising in LA times. It sounded like for us, for me and my brother was a big explosion for all of, because it didn't have many schools. We have us and the Grace's, my cousins. It was a big demand, but not many teachers. The teachers start coming little by little when Carlos Grace Jr. start the competition, the sport competition.
Starting point is 00:17:57 A lot of people come to the competition. It starts to say, hey, let's open academy. It sounds like now I believe you have over 3,000 academies of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in America. That's a lot of schools. What is Jiu-Dit-T like in Brazil? Is it like baseball here? Like how prevalent, like explain how the world is in Brazil. In Brazil, we think different.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is not a much wise. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is when you talk to people from Brazil. It's a lifestyle. A lifestyle to be a human pit bull. a lifestyle to breathe the sport, to walk the sport, to think, to act, to have the health, to the friends. Like when you go to the academy here in Brazil, I remember growing up, at least the time I was over there, is your brothers. It's like, same like you're part of a Navy-CU team, your best friends inside the school. you go on the street
Starting point is 00:18:59 all the friends go together that group was amazing time of a brotherhood growing up in Brazil for me was one of the best
Starting point is 00:19:11 face I have in my life you know I never wrestled in high school I played football I played basketball I never knew you know I had friends that wrestle not that I just didn't never wrestle
Starting point is 00:19:22 you know so I never had the aptitude for it you know I joined you know Renato Lerreux Brungia, you know, Eddie, the Brazilian. I went to his father was my first karate teacher in 1970 in New York, so I was always a karate
Starting point is 00:19:36 guy. And, you know, I started hanging out with Rogan and Eddie and they talk, talk, talking. I'm like, fucking Jiu-Jitsu, these fucking guys, what the fuck are they talking about? And this is, I went on forever. And, you know what, I started watching YouTube at night the night. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:53 YouTube changed the world. YouTube changed the world. And I would watch a couple music videos and then I would just stay up write comedy and watch Jiu-Jitsu and I started watching your video, Marcelo Garcia you know, the guy who
Starting point is 00:20:09 fought Chale Sunnan and Meta Morris last was Andre Galvao, you know, and I'm like, wow, I started watching Eddie and John Jack and it's very addictive. Oh my God, and listen, I made mistakes in my life. We all make mistakes, you know, and right now I've got to
Starting point is 00:20:27 tell you something, I walked into that G-MAC, V-MAC. Great school, great people. It was like nothing I ever encountered. I was 330 pounds when I walked into V-MAC. I was 30 pounds heavier. I was on testosterone.
Starting point is 00:20:43 They told me to go on testosterone. My heart was big. I couldn't breathe. The first time I did a hip escape, I thought I was going to die. I thought I was going to die. Like, I saw spots and shit. I had to get up and take my gear off and go outside and get and breathe.
Starting point is 00:20:58 It was sub, but I knew I was coming back the next fucking day. I knew. And you know why I was coming back? Because one, it was hard for me. And I hate when something's hard for me. I want to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And two, the people. Nobody laughed. Nobody said this. Nobody called me stupid. They picked my hand. They put it here. They let me sweat on them. What man lets you sweat on me?
Starting point is 00:21:23 Show me one fucking man that'll let you sweat on them. These guys are on top me, 300 pounds on top of a guy that weighs 180, and he's telling me to grab his collar, choke me, and I'm sitting there sweating on him. I can't choke this fucking guy. I can't do it in my heart.
Starting point is 00:21:39 He's like, choke me, and I'm trying to choke, and I can see the sweat, hitting him in the face, and I'm like, what person in the world will let you do that? When I went home, that jiu-jitsu just got into me. My biggest mistake was not joining jiu-jitsu at 35. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:21:58 You know, your brother has a guy that's 60 up there. You know, Carlos was how old still doing Jiu-Jitsu? It's funny because I remember one time I was talked to Halegris. Halegris was 86 or something. I remember one of the guys, I think I'm too old for Jiu-Zitsu. He starts laughing. It's like, how old are you? Oh, my 50-year-old.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I said, you're a baby. 86 and still training every day. There's no age for build your health. There's no age to change your lifestyle. It's no age for you improve yourself. And that was the biggest lesson I ever had to see that person explain things who I kept why. I love that comment because everybody finds ways to not to do things. or the age or the weight or anything.
Starting point is 00:23:01 But when you see guys like another day, I see a guy come to the academy to training in my school and he took his legs off. He didn't have any legs. And he jump on the mat, start doing the warm-up training like he loved it. To see he get his blue belt and he keep training his goal to get his black belt and he don't have the legs. and people complain
Starting point is 00:23:27 like oh my toe hurt or this and that no I'm overweight oh I'm too I look the guy who didn't have the legs and that guy come and train every day is no excuse
Starting point is 00:23:42 the only person who can not let you train is yourself the biggest better in life for me is yourself you learn how to overcome yourself you can accomplish anything you want you're right So is it like, let's say a 20-year-old comes in and like a 70-year-old,
Starting point is 00:24:01 is it the same class or for like the 70-year-old, do you're like, all right, we're going to have you do this, not this, because your knees. Like how much does that come into it? Growing up in Brazil, my mentality was to build wars for a war zone competition. We're always thinking about the competition. But when they start coming to America, I realize not many people come for competition. A lot of people come for hobbies. some people come to improve the health,
Starting point is 00:24:26 some people come for losing weight, some people come to build the confidence. You are learning how to adjust that, what I used to do in Brazil, to adjust for each student I have. It's going to be up to you. When you come to the academy, I say, what you want from here.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And the students, I want to do this, do that. Okay, I got it. Let's do it. It basically sometimes you adjust the type of training accord of what the student want. In case the student, oh, I want to be a world champion,
Starting point is 00:24:57 it's a different training. You have to train more often and have to compete more often because it's about hours on the mat, and hours in competition to get to the high level. You understand? It sounds like you have to go upstairs.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You want to reach quicker to the top. You have to walk more in case you just want to do steps to improve yourself a little bit. You can do little steps. And you're going to keep growing your knowledge, your game, your health, but to be on the top of the mountain, you have to pay a little price.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Time, effort, consistency, love what you do. It's not just like one click and make your world champion. No, it's a lot of work. And it's cool that there's different mountains. Like the top of the mountain for you, Joey, might be like doing it, doing 10 minutes and not being winded, or the top of the mountain for BJ Penn was the UFC. That's kind of cool. The top of the mountain for me and this is just to,
Starting point is 00:25:59 I want to stay healthy from my daughter. And I know that if I do this, listen, man, you could just lift weights for so long. You could just run for so long. You know, you could just do all these things for so long. I know I could do that. And listen, we all have good and bad days. You're going to get hurt.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You're going to twist an ankle. You're going to twist the wrist, you know. But for the most part, it's, What, for me, as a 50-year-old, this is what I enjoy right now. I'll do kettlebells. I got them in the trunk of the car. I'll do, you know, kettlebells. I'll do swings.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I do, you know, the clean and pull. I'm doing everything I can to be better at Jiu-Jitsu. Do I want to be a world champion? Not really. I don't have the time. I wish I had 10 hours a day. You know, I know from comedy. When I got into comedy, I was fucking terrible.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I was fucking terrible. But I had one thing. I had presence on stage. I had presents. So I had something to work with. You know, I had something to work with. And I kept going. And the reason why I got heavy, because I didn't even think of my health.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I did everything I could to become the best comedian that I could. And that means you got to go out seven nights a week. That means you stay out till two. Some night you've got to drink and smoke pot. You know, some night you've got to get your dicks up. It's always something, you know. But I was young. I thought that me walking would keep me healthy.
Starting point is 00:27:18 But I dedicated, and I know how hard you have to work. to be at the comedy store. To be in... Los Angeles is the World Series for comedians. Of Los Angeles? This is as good as it gets. That's the best. The comedy store, the laugh factory, the improv, those are them.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I'm not Bill Burr and I'm not Mark Maren, I'm not Joe Rogan, but I'm walking with them. Do you know what I'm saying? And I had nothing going on. I went to prison, I had problems, you know? So I know the work that has to go into Jiu-Jitsu. I know the work. If I wanted to be a painter, I know what needs to be done.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And if I wanted to be a bricklayer, I know the work. I know that you have to sacrifice, you know. And a lot of people don't want to do that. A lot of people want to be world champions and go there once a week and do an arm bar and go home. And then they get beat up, and then that's the end of the fucking dream. That's the end of the dream because they don't think they had it. They didn't put the time in.
Starting point is 00:28:10 You know, so effort, you know, I believe one thing. I don't want to be a world champion, but I want to be good at Jiu-Jitsu. So you know what? I got to go. Yes. I got to go and I got to get beat. up and you gotta do hip escapes and you gotta pass out and you gotta get choked out. For me, I know if I do Jiu-Jitsu, I could do fucking anything.
Starting point is 00:28:28 When I leave the academy at 1245 and I'm driving up Laurel Canyon, my dick is this fucking big. Even though it's two inches, my dick is this big. I'm pushing cars out of the way. Because I did the hardest thing for me. That's the hardest thing for me is to do a whole thing of hip escapes and back. So every time I go to the academy, I always do hip escapes, just to get that old word. Then Dave teaches or you teach.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I learned something from Hugh. I learned something from the other guy. And the next thing, you know, I'm driving home going, I can't believe I fucking did it. You know, for the first year, every time I went to Jiu-Jitsu, I took an aspirin, and I hugged my cats and my wife, I thought I was going to die. The first fucking year, I thought I was going to die. So I would take an aspirin, I would hug the cats. I would hug my wife.
Starting point is 00:29:16 My wife's like, what's going on with you, just in case if I don't make it back from J-Jitsu. but I'm going to fucking go. That's awesome. I don't give a fuck. So I understand what you're saying, and I want people at home. You're a world champion. I mean, you can read up on you, and it says, you know, you win 19 fights on one day and all this,
Starting point is 00:29:35 but it's so weird since the first couple months I got into it. You know, Eddie Brad was one of my best friends in the world. I love Eddie. Eddie's my heart. Eddie will tell something good about me to everybody. But I wanted to learn the geese. I'm old school. I'm traditional.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I want to learn the fucking ghee. I want to learn the ghee first, and then you go to no ghee later. But I knew nothing. I came to you, nothing. And whatever I walked into the academy with, you know, ever since I go to the academy, I do the BJJ training journal.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Have you seen that? You told me to get a notebook. I go online and do BJJTraining.com. And you learn the technique. I put the note of how I felt, blah, blah, blah. Dave taught this. You know, take the arm away.
Starting point is 00:30:18 You make notes and you write the technique and you put matthide. And it keeps everything going. At the end of the month it says you went 16 times, you'll improve. But you told me, get a notebook. At first, for the first year, I would leave there and I wouldn't know what the fuck they just taught me. I would go home and be lost. Now, as soon as I walk in the house, before I take a shower, I eat,
Starting point is 00:30:37 I go on the computer and I write the move down. You know, little things I like this, guys. That's awesome. I enjoy doing this. I'm a white belt. I don't want to do nothing. I just want to learn Jiu-Jitsu.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Why do I call Higin Machado over Eddie Bravo or John Jahn or Cobbrenia? Why do I call Higin? For me, I think I have a good experience in life.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I think I have a good experience in this sport. I have like a one is everybody have knowledge, everybody have techniques to teach you. For me, my goal, when people come to my academy, my number one goal is to make that person a better person. They are able to do
Starting point is 00:31:34 that. That's why I can see myself to be a master, a instructor, a professor, because I see the person improved in many different ways, improve to be a better person, to be a better father, to be a better friend, to be everything he enhanced. I have a chance to push that through the Jiu-Jitsu, to have a chance to talk to him, to explain about his, to talk to him about what Jiu-Jitsu made for me. I have one philosophy, very simple. The philosophy has a lot of jujitsu, is you just going to love you back? When they come to the academy to teach, it's not about to teach the academy to love what I do. Why go over there to do a seminar, I feel that's not work.
Starting point is 00:32:29 That's something I like to do so much. I feel so privileged to teach something I love it. And basically like the consequence, money, success, the glory, fame. All these come and go, but what keeps him happy every day to know I'm doing something, love it? To have a chance to give that love to a student, to give him a chance to start love to come to the academy. That is bring some love for him, bring some love for his life, helping him to come a better person to something. I'm very good. I think that's Higgen-Machad.
Starting point is 00:33:14 That's a good way to put it, man. Thank you very much. Now, when you walked in tonight, we were talking, I told you you were going to do the podcast Sunday, but then I spoke to my friend John, and he said he was doing a thing for your rules for the internet. You're starting a new league. You said, do you want to talk about this new league?
Starting point is 00:33:33 You're starting, and why, you know? Yeah, I explained why. My whole life, I competed in jiu-jitsu. I did, been competed in past 30 years on this sport. I have been doing Jiu-Jitsu for 42 years. He competed all my life. Basically, like, the sport Jiu-Jitsu, one of the things sad for me is to see we lose some of the top competitors for the MMA. They start to think like, wait a minute, why that happened?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Why you lose some of the top competitors for the Mixed Morshort? Because come to a point, mix, more short. the MMA offer money for the athletes. The athletes can come famous, they can make money, they can open opportunities for him to get the big sponsors because it's in pay-per-view, reality show, TV. In Jiu-Jitsu, it's a great sport,
Starting point is 00:34:35 I believe in over 180 countries right now. Any part in the world you go, you're going to find a Jiu-Jitsu school there. in jujured school. But I think my goal is to change that. My goal is to be sure the athletes start making money on the sport he loved. He wants to stay in the sport for rest of his life competing in the sport. The sport is going to take care of him too. I think because you train all your life, but you get a medal after a while I said, poor, I have enough metal. Now I have to think about how to get some green on my pocket.
Starting point is 00:35:15 What I did, the first thing I did, I tried create a team, a group of people with capacity to push this sport on the next level. For lack of experience, I unite myself to people who didn't know much what they're doing and was not success. I did a couple try, try to do this, try to do that,
Starting point is 00:35:38 but the team was not success. When they opened the Academy, Beverly Hills, I started teaching a private student for this kid. And his father is a guy named Matt Timlin. Matt Timlin was one of the major guy who helped Fox to grow around the world. He brought Fox Sports to Australia. He brought to Brazil. He brought all over the world. And he sold his business for a fortune.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And after this, he started coming a box promoter over 200 fighters from Mike Tyson, all these major fights, George Form, and he promotes some amazing fights. What's his name, Max Hellman? Matt Thielman. Matt Timlin. Yes. And we come partners.
Starting point is 00:36:22 We got the whole team complete. We got one of the biggest producers from Colorado named Kirk. We got like a great global market guys. We got a team of guys to create the rules. But we specialize for Try Get to Teeth. Everything about the rules is for TV. How we can make this sport for TV excited? Like people like it, to raise the number of points,
Starting point is 00:36:52 to people try hold the fight, is going to lose points, and to push the guys to be more aggressive. Like I give example, you do a throw. You do in the World League, the World Brazilian Jujit League, Toru, Tokuma, we call the aggressive rules. Why? Like, example, you do a throw.
Starting point is 00:37:16 A small throw, you just do a take down, a little throw, two points. You do high throws above the waist. You do a big throws, and the guy go very high is four points. The reason, because you want to see a lot of big throws. We create, like, example, every time the guy don't want to fight, start lose points automatic. He lose two points. He starts hold again, lose four,
Starting point is 00:37:42 the third time is qualification. It basically starts creating something like bonus point. What mean bonus point? You do a sweep and mount on top. You score two points very close to each other. You do the two points plus the amount plus two points for bonus points. Because more points we bring to the game,
Starting point is 00:38:01 to the chess game, is more excitement. It's like you see submission, see like people is going to be excited to see action. You understand? That's what I changed. I try build this sport to go more grass, to bring it like to TV, to get big sponsors, to get bigger ticket sell in the arena.
Starting point is 00:38:25 That's why it's been worked for the last nine years. Finally, these next years we organize to putting together to any events. The website is going to come out pretty soon. And pretty soon you guys are going to hear about this new World League. It's like the World League, the World League, the World Brazilian Justice League, Toru, Tokuma, the name of the organization. And where is it going to be based on? Los Angeles. No, we're going to do all over America. All over America.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah, we're going to start the major cities, California, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Texas, Texas, Florida, Florida. Atlanta, yeah. We choose some of the major cities. After these, we're going to few small cities. But you want to focus in a place, have the biggest number of academies to bring the competitors on the sport. We're going to sponsor a lot of the sports, the fighters. And when you do the championship,
Starting point is 00:39:28 we're going to give a big part of the money for the athletes, back to the athletes. We're going to give money for the academies. We want to start the philosophy of the organization, owner integrity and respect, like owner the sport, integrity organization, and respect to competitors. That's based the culture I want to create in this organization. I want to the athletes have a home to start making money.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I want to the athletes start to see the new generation of superheroes. We want to make them to look the new stars. Anything, the organization starts growing to the level we want, which I believe is going to a will. But I want to do a year to get all the mistakes on the organization. Clear out, right? Yeah, because I don't want to start professional right away. We have capacity because the relationship of my partners.
Starting point is 00:40:31 But I told my partner, let's do one year, amateur. To get to a level, we can go professional. We super organized, super ready to go. And my partner agree, let's do one year Amateur, Amateur, in the second year, we'll go professional. I think Jiu-Jitsu is two years away from TV. I think it's somewhere along the line. I think the rules is the most important.
Starting point is 00:40:56 That's why I want to focus so much on the rules to train the referees, to make a little bit more entertainment for people to, because it's very important when you watch TV to the sponsors you have to be very aggressive you have to be very motivated because we're going to be able to capture more people to watch
Starting point is 00:41:18 because you do like he's doing right now is not so attracted to TV is attracted for the people who know Jiu Jiu Jitsu. The people who have the fans, but forget more people to watch we need to make entertainment like same like when you watch UFC
Starting point is 00:41:36 is a take down it's a submission is a knockout is kick is very excited to watch your best excitement I want to bring to competition
Starting point is 00:41:49 in the grappling world I want to bring to the Jiu Jiu Jitsu I want to try push to the next level I want to be sure Jiu Jitsu the athletes start making money
Starting point is 00:42:00 they can live doing their sport they're good in what they do They will be famous. They will be making a lot of money. They will get everything they want from that sport. You know, I get up early. You guys know that I get up fucking early, 4.
Starting point is 00:42:15 3.30 sometimes. And I write. You know, I write. I got up last week in Denver one night, and I saw fucking darts on television. Fucking darts. Guys that throw darts at a fucking ball. No, I'm not disrespecting darts.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I'm not disrespecting. Pool. I'm not disrespecting. poker on TV. How many times you put on TV and there's five fucking lunatics with sunglasses on playing poker? How fucking exciting is that?
Starting point is 00:42:43 There's no excitement at all. No way, you just sit there like a fucking moron and watch these guys play cards. I think that Jiu-Jitsu could be 20% more exciting than fucking poker. Okay? Even until you work out the clinks. You know, some people don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:43:01 There's a new channel on right now. NBA? Anybody watch that NBA channel? Whatever. Just a basketball, whatever. But NBA has basketball games, but there's no fucking basketball now. So what do you think they show? They show old games, and they show the NBA in the 70s,
Starting point is 00:43:20 and how they got people, the NBA on CBS. That's what it was called. And they had people. You know, Red Orbach was a great coachman of Boston Red Sox. Celtics. Used to smoke a cigar, little guy, fucking whatever. and at halftime of the basketball games, he taught a clinic. He taught a move.
Starting point is 00:43:39 He got a professional to teach slam dunk or a dribble or defense or something like that. You put together a half-hour jiu-jitsu show, you know, three matches, four matches. One of them, in between one of the matches, you come out, or John Jock, and somebody teach a move. To educate. Yes, I think you're right. You have to educate them. Yeah, but when do we get to TV, we're going to come. a TV show, reality show, the whole pack we're going to make like America Idol, we're going
Starting point is 00:44:09 to do a rank system, more people competing, you're high on the rank, you're automatic go professional. It's going to be, you have the whole mathematics behind. But we need to do one year of events to understand how to do the right way. Because the moment you go professional, you don't want to do mistakes. You can't afford to do mistakes. because it's going to be a chance to change the sport to the next level. It's basically like that's what the group decided.
Starting point is 00:44:40 It was not just me, but a group of 10 people who analyze everything to be sure we do everything in the right way. So far, we're doing amazing. I think people, we will love this news World League because we will. will change the sport to the next level. Are you filming for the next year? Are you going to film the events? No, yes. We're going to have like probably online pay-per-view the same finance as in final.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Because it's like what Joey said earlier. Like let's say for the first year, the numbers aren't amazing because they're finding out. But on YouTube, if you put up the best fights, then the next time they come to that city, you'll sell out. And then like, it's a cool process. I agree with you 100%. Today, the power of the social media is crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I think like we hired the best group to work specific, like what you say, YouTube, time, this and that. But we little bit bigger than that. We want to have a show like exactly what teaching, educate people, interview the fighters, go around and go to people house, have a little bit more education. about this sport. We're not just going to be on the mat,
Starting point is 00:46:04 but we're going to be on the guy's house. I want to talk to the guy. Why are you competing jiu-jitsu? Show his train, show his preparation to go to this event. We're going to do all these behind the scenes. You know what I mean? To get people excited to come to the competition. To excited to be apart.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Oh, these world-class guys get ready to compete the Tor-Tukuma, World League, blah, blah, blah, blah. We need to bring all this. back. And I would imagine it would be good for the schools because I know nothing really about you. I'm a very amateur fan, but everyone knows like the Winkle John Camp, the Black Zillion. So like when you get the tournament up and running, if the like, let's say the champ is from the Academy in Beverly Hills, everyone's going to want to go there. If everyone goes to, if one of the champs is from 10th Planet in Chicago, they're going to want to go there. So it's going to be cool. It'd probably be good for like the school.
Starting point is 00:46:59 is to be involved in it. It's going to be good for everybody. Listen, when Machita won, that Monday 10,000 people signed up with Cholacan Karata. That's just the way life is. Everybody wants to do what they want to do. Listen, when
Starting point is 00:47:15 I grew up doing martial arts, I grew up going to Aaron Banks. When I was a kid, Aaron Banks was in New York, used to get Madison Square Guard. Like Billy Banks? No. This is Aaron Banks, a white fucking dude. And he would get Madison. Square Garden on a Saturday and he'd have karate, judo,
Starting point is 00:47:35 Kung Fu stars and at the end he'd have a guy come out with a glass and they'd shoot him with a 22 and he'd take the bullet out of the air. It would break the glass. He had a special mouthpiece with a jaw and finally it got on Wild World of Sports. If you look at YouTube, Wild World of Sports, Aaron Bank karate, that was huge and just disaffirkin peered, you know, but he took Madison Square Garden once a year and fucking packed it. Nobody knew. There was no social media. There was no fucking commercials on TV. There's a market for it. We're ready for Jiu-Jitsu. We've accepted MMA. It's on Fox. You know, and just, I know it's going to work because I know your passion.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I know your passion for the sport. I know that. I love the sport. I love Jiu-Zitsu. I, for me, I want to explain something here. Go back to the past little bit when you mentioned something about Ghi, no, ghee, this and that. I want to explain for you in Brazil how we think. Because I think America sometimes think one guy do ghee, the other guy do, no ghee is different. In Brazil, Jujitsu, the word Jujitsu for us, is the same like for you grappling. You understand?
Starting point is 00:48:53 Right. When you go to Brazil, you say, I'm a Jujitsu, Brazilian Jiu Jiu Jitsu competitor. For us, we are grappler. You take the ghee, we are a grappler. You go to MMA, we use the grappling to win the fight. You go to assemble or judo, we go to the ground, we use the grappling. To adjust the knowledge, how good you are in the goal, to adjust according to what we do. We want to be good with ghee, no ghee, fight, no fight, judo, any type of grapple, we use.
Starting point is 00:49:29 use the grappling. That's what Jujitsu was in Brazil. When people come, oh, no, at the bravos, no ghee, these guys have Gu, no. We are grappler. We both. We've
Starting point is 00:49:45 Gui, no ghee. Some people don't want to teach Gui, teach no geese, that's okay. But for us, we train everything. We're training people to fight grappling for M.A. We train people to fight grappling for judo. We train people to fight grappling for samba.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I want to train grappling for sports, jiu-jitsu. Whatever, have grappler, I want my students to compete. I wonder my students not to think about, oh, I'm just, you're a grappler. You're everything. When I first moved out here, I moved out here to be an editor. And there's two main programs
Starting point is 00:50:19 that editors use. And when I came out here, I would ask people, which one do you like? And some people would have an answer, but the best people who told me the answer were like, I'm an editor. I can, if any program you give me, I'll figure it out. So it seems like it's kind of like the same thing.
Starting point is 00:50:36 It's like the real, the best people in jiu-jitsu aren't like, oh, this kind of gear, this kind of move. It's like, I'm just a jiu-ditsu player. Like, it doesn't really matter. Like I give a good example. When I used to train if Horsgrace in Brazil, Horsgrace brought us wrestling. He wanted everybody to train wrestling. He wanted us to train judo. He put his students to fight samba.
Starting point is 00:50:59 He wanted us to learn every sport because more knowledge you have, your grappling general is going to be fantastic. You can't limit yourself or just want to train if you get now. You want to train with ghee, no ghee. You want to compete everything come to you in the grappling world. That's why when they come to America, I compete judo, I compete the Westland, I compete with rec Roma, I compete San Bob because I didn't have Jiu-Gitzis competition. I didn't want to stop, I want to keep progress my grappling. Doesn't matter all kind of competition, I want to keep growing my knowledge.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I want to use my ground fight to adjust for whatever is coming. That's a beautiful analogy, bro. Have you noticed that, Joey, because you did karate as a kid. Has any of that, even all these years later, has any of that, like, have you had a flashback to a movie you did in karate and it worked when you did too? No, but I think that, I was never a fast guy, but karate always made me very quick.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Like, just boom, like quick. I think that helps me a little bit. And as I get better in jujitsu, my footwork will help. You know, whatever it is, you know, whatever. But, yeah, probably. Everything helps. You know, everything helps at the end of the week. Like you said, no matter sombo.
Starting point is 00:52:18 You know, I know young kids now, 25, 26. They train, they go to the wrestling camp in North Hollywood. They go to judo and sootel, whatever that is. Olympic and Sautel, that's the thing. You know, that's why it's so hard to do, you got to do all these things, you know. If you want to be the best, like you said, you got to do the fucking sandbow, the grappling.
Starting point is 00:52:40 You know, it all helps. What do you think, brother? Yeah, I agree for you 100%. We all agree here. So there's no, because you've talked about, the little bit I know is that there's different schools, like Machado, and then there's the Gracie, and then there's a Bravo.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And it seems like they're, like, some people might think there's, like, competition, but there's probably not. I said, every school of Brazilian Jiu-Juz comes from one bag, but sometimes have a different flavor. The flavor comes from the instructor. But everything comes from the same bag, the same grappling, but the same instruction, the same, but some guys more aggressive, some guys more this, more that, and the competitor, he adjust the way he like to teach.
Starting point is 00:53:27 that's the difference. Some people like to teach this, that little bit different, and they are just, oh, I like to teach this new game here, that's me. Oh, I like to teach this. But the basics, everything comes from the same bag. That's how you found Tegan, right? Yeah. No one.
Starting point is 00:53:47 So the beauty of jih Tijuana, it's an art. Yes. Like comedy, like drawing. And the beautiful thing about an art is I teach you an arm bar. and however you, or you teach me I don't teach you shit you teach me an arm bar and however I get that arm bar
Starting point is 00:54:05 is my art. Are you with me? They've talked to mount the arm bar from the arm bar from the mount, the hand. I'll get good at it eventually but then I'll turn it into my style of arm bar and that's the art that you will adjust to your
Starting point is 00:54:21 what was your game when you were competing all those years? It's basic, like when you are blue belt, like in the sport Brazilian jiu-jitsu, the belt is almost like the levels as a grappler. Like example, blue, purple, brown, black. Blue is the, start as a white. Blue is the first real belt you get. Sometimes people analyze the general knowledge you have,
Starting point is 00:54:53 like you have the ABC well done. Now, Purple Belt starts mixing up more of the techniques. But the same techniques you do as a blue belt is the same techniques you do as a black belt. The difference from when you do as a blue belt to the black belt, you sharp in the techniques used to submit as a blue belt, the same technique is going to submit as a black belt. But the difference is the experience, the dreams, the you submit like a thousand guys of the techniques. your confidence on your game is going to be different. On the beginning, you're, oh, let me train, let me try this sweep, this and that.
Starting point is 00:55:36 This sweep is going to be the same sweep you're going to do 10 years later, but the difference is you're doing really, really well because you did so many times. That's the difference. It's like each person is going to figure out what he like it, when he starts playing around, when he starts drift, he's going to feel I like this better. Every time I train this work, that's your techniques. It's like basically like you try many things,
Starting point is 00:56:08 but the techniques you try work, that's going to little by little tell what is going to be your game. Now this camp that you do, how many years has you done this camp? This camp, I believe we have now four years. This one is going to be, I think this one is the 50 years. Base the camp was very difficult to get all the brothers together because all the brothers in different states, very busy.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Sometimes I call my brother Jean-Jacques, he's in Abu Dhabi. I call my brother Carlos, he's in Max. I call my brother John, he's in Canada. Everybody got so busy. It's very hard to get all the brothers together. And my brother, Carlos, said, do know what, let's get everybody together to do a camp, all the brothers together. You bring my students, you bring your students, bring your students, we bring a big group and have a good time, we will see each other. That was the idea, but the start getting very success.
Starting point is 00:57:14 We start at a point like we have to hire a bigger place, three times bigger than the place we have before, to have all the students. students from all these different places to come to training and was a big success it's going to be 24 25th and 26 this month is going to have all the five brothers over there it's very easy you just go to RCJ machado pro dot com and have all the the information all the details even give you guidance like hotels how to get over there the time. It's a great vibe
Starting point is 00:58:00 because every day you train two different brothers. After this, everybody gets together, go to a big barbecue place over there, to everybody eating. It's fun. I think I'm excited to go this year. I think this year is going to be the biggest one. We have already signed up so many people.
Starting point is 00:58:21 We still have a big space. I think we're, but I recommend you guys to go soon as possible to hold your spot because. So what's the website again? R.C.J. Machado Pro.com. Okay, I'll put it in the description. Yes. And now it's three days. It's Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Starting point is 00:58:44 So it's like, when I was a kid, I used to go to basketball camps and football camps. They were a week long. So it's three days. Now, there's four brothers. Five brothers. John's where in Dallas? He's John, Jean-Jacques, myself, Roger and Carlos. Where's Roger?
Starting point is 00:59:01 Roger is my older brother. He has a school in Pasadena. By the Ice House. The little school? Yes. Yeah, that's your brother there? Is he there, though, at night? He has a school there, but he teach all over.
Starting point is 00:59:15 He teaches sometimes in Santa Monica, he teaches in Torrance. He's doing a lot of seminars. He's pretty busy. But he owned a school in school. Pasadena. Yeah, it's right there by the ice house. I've seen it right there. And then your other brothers
Starting point is 00:59:29 in Tarcana and Malibu, Janjok. Janjak just get ready to work at a big school in Malibu actually. Oh, it's even bigger than the other one? Yeah, the other one is no more space.
Starting point is 00:59:40 No more space. He now got one four times bigger. By the Malibu colony, the area, I think it's right next to the fire department. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Where was the other one at? Was right by cross in P.S.H. The sushi place, the very famous sushi place, Nobu. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was cross the street, but it was 1,200 square feet. Well, it was small. I heard it was very small. This one is over 5,000 square feet.
Starting point is 01:00:11 It's going to be pretty big, good space for feet like 3, 400, 400 students easy. And where's Carlo at? Carlos is in Dallas with John. John moved to Dallas. Carlos and John have probably six schools now in Dallas. Now I bumped into John, Jack, in Dallas maybe seven years
Starting point is 01:00:33 ago? Yes. At the airport? I was with Eddie and Joe and they bumped into him. What was he? He was down there visiting John was there right? Yeah, when he go to Dallas just to see to see my brothers. No, when I went to the somebody told me at the
Starting point is 01:00:50 academy and I went home and looked at the website And everything was hunky dory. Even with the surgery, I was going to try to go do the Dallas Improv, Wednesday and Thursday, and then come see you Friday, Thursday and then come home Saturday. I couldn't stay Saturday.
Starting point is 01:01:03 That was the problem. And I thought, you know, that would be. And then I got that call. I got to go to Miami and pick up that stuff. So that was my deal. You know what I'm saying? You're going to go to Dallas for three days and let he can beat the fuck out of you for three days?
Starting point is 01:01:18 No, it's not about. I need to start first, but it's not about beatings. No, no. It's about loving, have a good time. Do you guys ever think, because from the way it sounds, it's kind of like if, like, the best baseball players we're having, like, do you ever think, like, it's kind of, for the students, it must be kind of crazy to have,
Starting point is 01:01:37 like, the Machado brothers, all five of them in one place. All five of them in one place, yeah. For me, my philosophy, me and my brother have a philosopher. The philosophy we have about friends, about business, about anything in life, leave your ego at the door. And it's not about the money, it's not about the success. It's about to build good bridges and have good friends. And when you go to the camp, we treat everybody the same.
Starting point is 01:02:11 You want to love everybody. You want to have fun with everybody. You think that kind of culture for us, for me and my brothers, help us to unite each other, because there's no greedy between us. My brother doing something, we want to support him. My other brother doing something, we want to support. Like you go to my brother Janjak, or go to some, you ask, who's the best between you guys?
Starting point is 01:02:36 Janjak is going to say Higan. You ask me, who's the best between you guys? I'm going to say Janjaka and Carlos. We're kind of, we're not better than anybody. We total together, we're great. You understand? And basically, this is amazing. that kind of culture you create because we try transfer that for the students.
Starting point is 01:02:56 That's why when people come over there, there's no ego, it's no we try beat each other, it's no about who is the best, it's about let's have a good time. Leave your ego outside. Let's inside here, we want to have fun, training, exchange knowledge, and have a great time. That's what I love, the Machado group. We have a great philosophy about life. One of the matches that I watched on YouTube, and now that you brought up, I was thinking about it,
Starting point is 01:03:28 is one against one of your cousins. It's a famous... Oh, Hickson. Hickson. Now, you guys live together, and you trained together. Hickson, for me, was my idol. Growing up, I was Horson. At the time, the champion of the family,
Starting point is 01:03:45 like, for me, was, wow, this guy is the best. He basically, like growing up, Higson loved the Machia brother. He loves. He comes to training for his time. He invited me, Janjad, to come to his school to have private lessons with him all two or three times a week. He always, when the thing about Hickson, Hickson is so sharp in details. He taught my game to be very detailed about.
Starting point is 01:04:16 He explained to me, Hig, you have to focus on the details, right? here, right there, this little movement here. And this opened my mind to come a master in details. I Hickson was very good on that. I learned a lot about that. But the problem with the growth of the sport, I was very successful competitor very early. And basically have events called the company,
Starting point is 01:04:43 have a big, a close line called the company. In Brazil, like we say Adidas or Reebok. But in Brazil was a big sport company, sponsored all the major sports. They really love Jiu-Gis. Start to make big events, big money, TV, this and that. And they brought thousands of people to watch the event. Hickson, the Black Belt was the day everybody came, like thousands and thousands of people, national TV.
Starting point is 01:05:15 And the problem, Hickson fighter got hurt. and my fighter was a fighter I won three times before and Heli Grace said wait a minute we need a show we need to have a good fight or that's not going to be good for the sport Heli Gris was very sharp and he came to Hickson and said you have to fight Higgen because that's going to be one of the best fights ever
Starting point is 01:05:46 you have to go and fight Higgen. And he told for my coach, told for everybody, that fight have to happen now because it's the opportunity to motivate people. These people came here to see a show. We need to give the fight to that. For me, it was very hard.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Because Hickson was my teacher, my idol. Imagine like, oh, you have to fight your coach. I said, the first answer I have said, no way in hell, I'm going to fight Hickson. My jiu-jitsu improved 80% because Hickson. And in basic, like, everybody's like, poor, man, you have to fight, this and that. I said, I'm not going to fight. I'm not going to fight.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I'm going to give a go over there, raise a Hickson arm. He would be my owner to do that because he's the champion, blah, blah, blah. But one thing, Hickson is very smart. Higgsun knew me so well he came to me in Higa, we have to fight. Yeah, I said, poor Higgs, I prefer not, because I don't want to fight my cousin and my coach, my idol. He said, you don't understand we have to fight. Yeah, I said, well, Hickson, in case I'm going to do mad to real fight you, it's going to change. I'm not going to look you like Higgs, I'm going to look you as a competitor.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And Hickson said, the best is going to win anyway or something like that. Who pushed me, might intrigue me. At a point, like I said, okay, I will go after you. It's like almost like I said, do know what? Let's do it. Hickson knew how to do that. And that for me was one of my best fights ever because nobody holds nothing back. And Hickson came, I came.
Starting point is 01:07:44 we went to a war. It's not like holding back. I'm not going to, no, we both tried to do everything. For sure, I realized I did the best fight of my life, but Hickson was the best. And I realized to have chance to go to the best guy in the world with 18 years old at the time. You were 18.
Starting point is 01:08:07 18. And have a chance to give him a match for he never forget. was, for me, was a big victory because I realized, you know what, I think one day I'm going to be a big champion because that fight wake me up after that, I changed so much, I grew so much as a competitor or as a fighter, was one of the best experience I ever had that day. It changed you forever.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Changed because you realize you can be like your idol. You can be good as the guy you dream growing up to be and to have a chance to get the experience to fight the guy and do a good fight. It's amazing feeling. I realize Hickson was much better. I realized I didn't have what stake. Because for me, I believe like this, you go on the map,
Starting point is 01:09:06 you don't want to win by two or triple. You want to take the victory. You want to say, now, I'm the number one. I'm the champion. I believe that day, I didn't have 100% what I need. I was younger, didn't feel I had what's take to beat the champion like Higgs. But one thing I got from the fight, I got the biggest experience of my life. And from that day, I wake me up in a level.
Starting point is 01:09:34 It's amazing. I felt like I come from a young guy to a real man, you know what I mean, to a real competitor. After that, I won so many amazing matches. I come so success after that. I was amazing. I'm thankful for Hickson because Hickson didn't come to me to try to treat me. Probably didn't want to fight him.
Starting point is 01:09:55 I probably gave him the victory or stuff like that. That was an experience I'm never going to forget. Now, when you say, there's a lot of, when I let people know that you were going to be on the show tonight, a lot of people said, I'm going to tune in for the people at the beginning or whatever belt you're in. When you say details, what the Nixon teach you is a detail?
Starting point is 01:10:15 Details for me is everything. We call, like Hickson called the invisible jiu-jitsu. Like you can go teach a lot of techniques and this and that. But the details were changed the techniques to master the techniques. Like example, when you know every inch about the techniques, when you know, hey, you change your movement a little bit here, you put your finger here, you pull little bit here. create leverage in their level details the techniques when you do it is so easy it is amazing
Starting point is 01:10:50 that's when you realize wow or a different that's what you call the different to know the techniques and to master the techniques it's two different things everybody can know the techniques but when you master the techniques it sounds you have a tool you can apply anytime you want It's like the magic you have on your game. When you start training, the guy, you're so good in the techniques, in many different details. When you do, it's easy to apply. That's the magic I think I learned through Hickson growing up to focus in the details.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Today, so much I improved because I realized that is very important. Now, when we get on the mat and we slap, What should a person like me, a beginner, be thinking before my role? One of the things, it seems like you want to ride a bike or play soccer or you want to play a volleyball or anything. You go and have fun. Go and play, try to do something. Try to get my neck.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Try to have fun. We play chess game. Use your weight. Try to do this. You know what I mean? When you offense, you try use your offense. When you're on the ball, try use your defense. Try escapes, try counter my attacks.
Starting point is 01:12:13 That's what's the fun about Jiu-Jiu-Jitsu. The reason is very addictive because it's a chess game with your own body. You play with your opening body. And when you start getting good and learn how to play your game with your own tools, your body, your mind, your hands, your, oh, it's amazing. You get so addicted because when you realize that you're a vessel today, five guys, or one hour, probably sweat, two geese or something like that it's amazing workout it's not just workout
Starting point is 01:12:45 it's fun you in the environment you build friends around you it's amazing I do you know when I was growing up I avoided things that bothered me
Starting point is 01:12:57 but as I got older I want to conquer the things that bothered me I don't like needles I can't stand fucking needles so I go to acupuncture I go to acupuncture for the last eight years
Starting point is 01:13:08 I go every Tuesday because I hate fucking needles. Today I looked at my knee and I had a thousand needles in my knee. I almost fucking fainted. But I didn't faint. I sat and talked with her today. I spoke with her.
Starting point is 01:13:23 She had the needles in here and I was talking to, I looked down and there was needles all over my leg. And I was sitting there going eight years ago, I would have fainted three times. The truth, I've never said this anywhere before. When I tore this meniscus, the left one, it was because I fainted at acupuncture.
Starting point is 01:13:39 She stuck a needle in me, and my leg went out from under me. And I fell and I tore my meniscus. That's how I tore my meniscus. This one. Oh, my God. I didn't tear it jumping or running. I tore my meniscus from fucking fainting. Wow.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Now I don't faint no more. I go get blood. I look the other way. I put my eye on. You've overcome your fear. I have sleep apnea. You have sleep apnea? You know what sleep apnea is?
Starting point is 01:14:01 You can't fucking breathe in your sleep. No, I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm sleeping like a rock. But sleep apnea, you can't breathe on your back. That's no good. Okay, every time you're, like, if I go to the doctor's office and he puts me on my back and he doesn't pop that thing up, I fucking have anxiety.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah, that's no good. So the other reason why I joined Jiu-Jitsu was to overcome that. Yes. You don't know what it's like. When you have somebody who's over 200 pounds on top of you, you get anxiety. You know, now I don't get the anxiety no more. So I went to Jiu-Jitsu to overcome those things. What happens if there's a fucking blackout, and I can't sleep because of the sleep-apap machine?
Starting point is 01:14:37 I don't ever want something to control me. So now, because of Jiu-Jitsu, I fall asleep on the couch at night. I force myself. And I get up at 2, and I go to the bed and I put the machine on. But I force myself to do that. That's why I go to J-Jitsu to breathe. I didn't like that fear. What if?
Starting point is 01:14:54 What if? So now I went and I got hooked for other reasons. I don't want to choke nobody. I don't want to hurt nobody. Sometimes people say, you know, put your throat on that thing. I agree for you 100%. I haven't started for you after that. It's Jiu-I-Gitsu, but I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Especially with, you know, I always roll with John Jock guys. Those motherfuckers, they fucking protect. When they, when they hip escape, holy fuck. You know, and I don't mind, I'm not a baby. It just looked like, you know, like a flashback to it as a kid. I have a story for you. I remember in Brazil, I have one private lesson. Just me on the guy in the room.
Starting point is 01:15:36 It sounds like he used a lot of strength. guy like business guy older guy but good athlete kind of body build a little bit nice guy we're good friends but I was teaching him and when I mount on top of him for some reason he started getting panic like get out on top of me get out I want to get out of here don't I don't want to be here yes I do know what no you have to get out of yourself he stopped push me panic when I punch me everything, hold his arm? No, it doesn't matter. You punch your scream. You have to find the leverage to get out of here. You can do whatever, scream. Just me and you here, nobody here. In case that
Starting point is 01:16:22 happened outside on the street or happen in any situation in life, scream is not going to help. You have to think about the solution. What you do here? What I taught you? Show me the techniques. Focus on the techniques. Don't scream. Don't panic. Focus. Focus. It sounds like he's I breathe, relax, it sounds like he escaped. And I remember he said, man, that was the best thing ever happened to me. Because everything for me, I panic and I get angry, I do this with my wife, in my work. And you came a lesson. I'm never going to forget because I realized over there in the room, I panic.
Starting point is 01:17:03 And I want to do this, I want to do that. But I realize that's not the answer. I have to stop a focus for the solution and I try to use now that for everything in life I remember that class I remember like just me and you here in the room I don't care you scream
Starting point is 01:17:22 you want to punch me I hold your arm get out of here you know the answer no panic is not the answer scream is not the answer you know the techniques focus because in everything in life is going to have problems.
Starting point is 01:17:38 You can't scream, jump, and panic, focus on the solution. Because I guarantee you use that semi-philos in everything you do, you're always going to find a good answer. That's... You know, for me, I got to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:17:55 I did martial arts when I was 15. And because of pussy and basketball and just life, I stopped. You know, the kids I went to martial arts with, we had a big camaraderie when you're 14. You go to karate movies.
Starting point is 01:18:10 You go to eat Chinese food. You know, you eat the chopsticks. And they didn't smoke pot. They didn't do nothing. They didn't beat people up. You know, they didn't get into fights. So I stopped hanging out with the karate guys. And my life changed.
Starting point is 01:18:24 10 years ago, I think 2006 was when I said, that's it. I'm going to stop with the trucks. And I joined Kung Fu. And whether it was Kung Fu, karate, uh, fucking whatever, I got something big for martial arts. I got something very big from it And now I push it to anybody
Starting point is 01:18:43 Anybody who will listen I don't give a fuck what you join You want to go to the academy and see Hegan? Go to the academy and see Higgan But I know Higgan and I know me We just want you to be happy If it's fucking Kempo Karate
Starting point is 01:18:55 But you get something out of it Because for me you apply things From martial arts to life You're absolutely right For me when I go see you And I drive up Laurel Canyon I'm not kidding you That's when I go write my best jokes
Starting point is 01:19:07 because nothing could stop me. I just did something that is the hardest thing in the world. To me, it's hard. Maybe to you it's hard to go talk on stage in front of 300 people. For some people, it's fucking hard to make them laugh. I've had friends that I've gone, Lee, come on up, and they run out of the fucking room.
Starting point is 01:19:24 They're anxiety. Don't do that to me. Don't fucking do that. I don't like talking in front of people. I know actors, big-time actors that will come to the comedy store. And I go to them, you want to go on stage and do 10 minutes? Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:19:36 I would never do that. I'm like, you've done fucking movies, huge movies. How can you not go on stage and talk to 10 people? They can't do it. Because you have to improvise, have all kinds of stuff. You have to have all kinds of stuff. It's amazing that, you know, martial arts, if you have something going on in your life that's not working,
Starting point is 01:19:55 I don't care what martial art you join. Somewhere along the line, that martial art will teach you things to apply things to your life. Somewhere. I believe everything is very simple. You take life as simple. It's making easy for you. Like example, when they go to the academy,
Starting point is 01:20:14 it's like I said, it doesn't matter what you do, not martial arts. Whatever you do if you love, they're going to love your back. You love to do comedy and do this and that. The comedy is going to love you back. I believe like you do just for the money or just for this and that.
Starting point is 01:20:34 It sucks. It sucks. It's not the right. You know, we do a, Lee and I have been doing this podcast. You know, we try to make it funny. We try to get a laughter, but some of the best podcasts we've had is when we talk about our life, you know, experiences. And to me, man, when I go do a comedy show,
Starting point is 01:20:53 I got to tell you this, guys, when I go do a fucking comedy show. I want to see your show so bad. I'm not, but I get offstage. And there's people that come up and they say, it's fucking funny, ha, ha, ha, ha. And you're right, and you pick up your check, and it's okay. but the best part of the night is when somebody comes up to you
Starting point is 01:21:10 and you can see on their face they're having a fucked up time that's awesome something isn't going right with their life maybe they lost a girlfriend maybe they lost a parent maybe they had a shit day at work and they look you in the eye and they go
Starting point is 01:21:22 bro thank you for making me laugh and I used to leave and go what the fuck is that guy talking about and now that's my number one thing when I go do a show people come up to me yeah how you doing that's great but there's always one guy that comes up to me, and I could see it on his face,
Starting point is 01:21:39 and he'll go, bro, I was having a bad fucking week. Thank you for making me laugh. That means more to me than a million dollars, because I got to that guy. I did something to his soul, you know? So you're right. You know what? I hate doing comedy for money.
Starting point is 01:21:57 I hate coming after you afterwards and going, do you have my check? The best times I've had is when I go to a bar and get up on stage and just fucking talk. And I get off stage, and that's the best, because I don't have to deal with that. I don't have to worry about who's sitting in the chairs or what they're going to pay me or the check going to bounce.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I just have to be fucking funny. That's it. That's the best thing, you know. We were talking when you come up here about the difference between Beverly Hills and any other place in the world that you've taught. Beverly Hills is a place like so unique for me. It's like what, imagine like you grew up in Brazil.
Starting point is 01:22:36 When you hear about Beverly Hills, it's like, a power place, wealth is the most rich people in the world. When you came to United States, and you have a school in Beverly Hills. Just the name Beverly Hills, like, wow, I accomplished. I have my school in Beverly Hills. But Beverly Hills is something like even the students come over there. It's so different the students used to have in Redondo Beach.
Starting point is 01:23:08 because the clients you get is not athletes, it's not these, it's not like a guy's young guys. The guys who come to you is 90% business guys, doctors, lawyers, actors, producers, directors, is like a kind of level of client. We have to be very careful for they don't get hurt. You have to readjust the method you teach because the number one rule is followed not let people get hurt. Yeah, I have to understand the physical level and how aggressive he are when he practiced to go very easy to educate him a little bit more before I put them to train if each other because I follow a method. Let's build your knowledge and teach you how to train with each other.
Starting point is 01:23:58 He doubt to get hurt because in Brazil growing up, I said, let's put this guy on the fire. He gets a tough skin. now we put him to to beat people it's like I remember before you come a hammer you start as a name people is going to beat you up
Starting point is 01:24:17 you get tough skinny you wet it now to start beat people up it is a very tough method who work you're going to get tough but you can't do that
Starting point is 01:24:31 in Beverly Hills you do that in Beverly Hills people get hurt because a lot of people never did any sport before some people being a businessman for all his life it's like you put him to train hard he will get hurt that's why i have to go steps do a lot of knowledge dreams and build up to appoint his way to stop practice teaching him how to train it down hurt each other create a kind of culture
Starting point is 01:24:56 the number one is not to get hurt how you can train and everybody's party for everybody in a way nobody get hurt. That's based what the culture I create in Beverly Hills. And so far, being 100% nobody got hurt so far. You know, it's rumored that you're
Starting point is 01:25:16 the jiu-jitsu coach of the stars. Everybody says he's the fucking jiu-jit-to coach of the stars, man. You have everybody. Everybody. I just saw a tape of the guy from Fast and Furious
Starting point is 01:25:29 saying Higa Machado changed my life. Vin Diesel. Vin Diesel. You know, you got the other guy You gave him the blue belt Two and a half men You got Duval You got all these people
Starting point is 01:25:40 How do they fucking find you? Growing up in Brazil The other passion I have I love movies I love every movie I grew up watching Bruce Lee Chuck Norris After these
Starting point is 01:25:57 Stafalo Van Dan Steve Segal And Growing up Watch all these major movies. In Beverly Hills, I start surrounding myself with actors, producers, and they take me to parties, introduce me to some of the actors.
Starting point is 01:26:15 And the actors today is a big fan of fighting. And basically, like, the best feeling is like, you meet the actor, and the actor said, I'm your big fan. And he said, wait a minute, what's that? You're my big fan? I'm your big fan. For me, it's the best feeling in the world. Like, I give an example.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Mick Rook is a good friend in mind He's training for me And for me he's one of the best actor ever The other guy I love so much Is Mel Gibson I think Mel Gibson I think Mel Gibson one of the best director, actor And basically I end up to meet both
Starting point is 01:26:50 And one day Mick Rook was talking about How he liked Mel Gibson as a direct And Mel Gibson Love Mick Rook And I said I call Mick and say, Mick, I said, let's have a lunch. I will call the group of Mel Gibson to come, and we have a lunch, go to a Brazilian barbecue.
Starting point is 01:27:08 And he called me, let's go. Call them and see they want to come. He called Mel Gibson Group, and Mel Gibson came. And the best feeling I ever had was to have a barbecue, Brazilian barbecue. I have Mel Gibson one side and Mick Rook the other side. And I just sitting and listening to the conversation was amazing. time. It was one of my best times to be around by these two great actors talking about, to
Starting point is 01:27:38 listen to them to talking about movies and things like that. That's what I love about Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills is a bridge for so many relationships, so many people. I'm, I feel very blessed to have an amazing school in Beverly Hills. Now, you also spoke about you're putting together a new school in Culver City. At Culver City, I have a friend of mine named Chad. I met Chad that 20 years ago. Chad was the double of Keanu Reeve and Matrix. And he started doing stunts and fight calligraphy and come a stunt coordinator, a second young director.
Starting point is 01:28:16 And now he's a director. He just finished a move with Keanu Reeves coming out in two weeks, John Weicker or something. Yeah, John Wicker. And pure action. And he have a company called 8711. 8711 specialized in fight calligraphy, stunts, actions, and he's directed everything related to action. They directed in action over 80 top movies from Ninja Turtle,
Starting point is 01:28:47 Born in Supremacy, Ninja Assassin, movies, some of the best action films I've ever seen. They have this powerhouse of stunt guys. And Chad want to bring the best people in the world to come to this powerhouse place for stunts. And I come to do the grappling. He basically going to help the stunt guys he have to learn more Jiu-Jitsu,
Starting point is 01:29:18 to bring Jiu-Gis more to the big stuff. screen. At the same time, I have opportunity to teach some of the actors to do the same, to get better in the jiu-jits, to start doing more ambars, more this, more that, to bring a little bit more mixed more shorts for the films.
Starting point is 01:29:34 In the same time, now we open school there, which the place is going to open probably in a month. It's an 87-11 state group, but we're building a website. It's going to come out pretty soon.
Starting point is 01:29:50 And the next month we're going to open school for the public after 7 o'clock we have classes over there for Jiu-Jitsu. But it's a good group. It's going to be a good space. We have almost 3,000 square feet area for training. You're still going to keep the academy open. The Beverly Hills is my baby. The other one, the Cover City is going to be a place for me to train stunts, open school. team of instructors to help me.
Starting point is 01:30:23 It's going to be another place who I want to start build a good team of competition because it's two different clients. The Beverly Hills to the Covee City, I think Covee City are going to be able to bring some the competition back for, you want to start build a team for competition. I think the one over there is going to be a good place to people want to train very hard and want to compete. I have a question for both of you. in and it's you both I mean joe you've done comedy for over 20 years and and you just said that
Starting point is 01:30:56 you've done juditsu for over 40 years and like a lot more people's goals when they're working or and everything is to like master and you you you're a master but I I would imagine you still like every day you're still learning like how often for both of you are you still finding something new in juditsu or comedy or a good question like I give an example for me I right now I create two new techniques on the sports jiu-jitsu. Basic, you learn how to be this chess player who have a big experience, training so many people competing, build a lot of champs.
Starting point is 01:31:32 You know a lot of stuff. I always, I create these new games coming out. A lot of people don't even know. One is called the handcuff. The other one is called the Higgen Trap, which is a game and creator who people, you're going to see pretty soon people start applying. The first thing I'm looking for something called the seed.
Starting point is 01:31:53 This is something you're going to plant, the first techniques. From that technique, I start playing around and find the branch, how we're going to grow this game. But you need to find the techniques, the first one. When I play this chess game, I see something very different, nobody do it. I said, wait a minute, what's this? Let me study this new movement. And in that moment I realized they see techniques
Starting point is 01:32:21 is the best feeling in the world you start play around and start create a game around the technique you create who nobody knows and that's the best feeling that's what you always learn you always look sometimes a white belt training he does something different
Starting point is 01:32:37 what did you do? And based through that you feel so good because you realize you're never going to be you always open your mind to keep learning. You never know enough. It's never going to be over. You're never going to be one day you're not going to wake up and be like,
Starting point is 01:32:56 I know all Jiu-Ditsu. I don't think you ever because you're just going to stop growing. The game always improved, always have something new to learn. It's amazing. Hold on one second. Let me give some shoutouts. I'll get back to you here. Real quick, Frank Barker down there in Australia.
Starting point is 01:33:13 I love you. Benny Perez. Philip Body. Stay black. Leon Vega-Suarez, Joey's water bottle, that metal bread 42, the pumpkin bread was tremendous.
Starting point is 01:33:24 I ate half of it and left the other half in Denver with some staff of help that. You said something very interesting. I think you taught a little bit of the Hegan trap at the seminar. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And it was amazing. I go to the seminar and the guy that's sitting over here is Dan and Asanto. And again, I was feeling bad for myself. And he's 70. some years old. 77.
Starting point is 01:33:49 And doing like little moves, so I left there and my head was going to explode. What advice do you have for somebody coming into your school or to any Jiu-Jitsu school? What advice do you have for a white belt that's going to listen to this today and go into a school tomorrow? I think the best thing, the moment he walking, he's already a victory. He's already a champion. Because just to walking, to have the action. to go inside the academy you want to sign up, for me he's already in
Starting point is 01:34:22 because from that it's just consistent. He keeps it coming. He's going to fall in love of the sport and the rest there's going to be time, he's going to feeling health, he's going to feel, adapt a new lifestyle for himself. He's going to feel like build an environment who helped to
Starting point is 01:34:42 disintoxic. It's like sometimes life is tough, work, the routine, sometimes you do things you don't like. I think when you come to a place like the academy, to practice, to train, you forget about all the problems. Your stress is out. When you go home, you feel like a new guy. Oh, I have a great workout, I sweat. I hang out. I talk to my friend. When you go to the academy, you're not talking about business. You're not talking about your problems. You go over there, you work out to have fun. You're talking about funny stuff. I think that's Because the academy is good for a lot of people. It's not just go for land use.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Go over there to have friends. Go over there to get a stress release. Because the academy is something positive, something can help you to come a better person. Take advantage. You know, when I go into your academy or a YMCA and a lift weights, I never bring my phone inside. I never bring my phone in.
Starting point is 01:35:43 because when I go to your academy, I just want to be a fat fuck. I don't want to be a comedian. I don't want to be a guy that does movies. I don't want to do nothing. Because I'm that Matt. You're nothing. You're just, and that's my philosophy.
Starting point is 01:35:57 When I go there, it's my fucking hour heat. Or my hour, 15, or my hour and a half because I leave everything at the door. I don't worry about comedy, auditions, the podcast. I don't give a fuck. This is my fucking hour. This is my hour. The babysitter's got the baby.
Starting point is 01:36:13 my wife is at work. If there's an earthquake, what am I going to do? You know, I'm here, and I think that the lot of people, you know, when I go into a place and I see somebody with a fucking phone, I feel bad. I go, you know what? I know that they're probably busy, but as a student, I'm here to learn. I don't want to remember nothing.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Nothing, nothing, nothing. We had John Evan in here a couple weeks ago. John Evan is a friend of mine. He's a brown belt, nice kid, very, very knowledgeable, very technical. And he said something here one day that, you know, A lot of people want to join Jiu-Jitsu to be with Higan or John John. But he goes, then there's the Phil Jackson syndrome. You know, Phil Jackson was not a great basketball play.
Starting point is 01:36:53 When I was a kid and they put Phil Jackson a game. I turned the fucking game off and go to sleep. Fuck Phil Jackson. But he became one of the greatest coaches of all time. You know, in basketball, one of the best coaches. I go to your school. I went in your academy and you taught me some stuff. But then you have a guy there named Dave.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Who's tremendous. I mean, he is your spirit. You know, I've learned more from Dave in the two months I've been going there than I did in the whole fucking year. I mean, how long have you trained Dave for? When did you meet Dave? It's like it's almost like you raise a bunch of kids
Starting point is 01:37:31 and these kids come the next generation of teachers at school. David, I met him who was a soccer player, this and that. I brought him to the academy. I like him because he's very patient. He loves Jiu-Jitsu. The moment you get an instructor who has that love,
Starting point is 01:37:53 he goes to the student, he gives his best to help the student to learn and to improve. That's the kind of people in instructors I want to have at the academy. This kind of environment, what I love, I want to have an environment like people there, They have a good time. The instructor love to teach. The students have fun. That's what is very addictive for me at the academy, to have the kind of environment there.
Starting point is 01:38:23 He's just very weird that you go there and he's great. I mean, the spirit, this guy text me. You know, I wasn't going to go back this fast. I just had knee surgery. I wasn't going to go back for two months. He fucking texts. me. He fucking texts me. Every Monday and Wednesday
Starting point is 01:38:44 are you coming to class today? He knew. He knew I had fucking knee surgery. He would hit me up and go how's your knee? When are you coming to class? You got to love somebody like that. Monday, 10 o'clock. Monday and Wednesdays, 10 o'clock. I got a text with him going, hey, bro, I'll be
Starting point is 01:39:00 there at 11 o'clock. You train him today? You're like, God damn it. You know, that's beautiful. It's beautiful that he called. Nobody fucking called me to ask me how my knee was. He called and said, how's your knee? I got some exercises, come down, we'll put you on the side of the mat. I can't, that's what I like, you know.
Starting point is 01:39:20 I was looking for a reason not to want to go to Beverly Hills. Do you know that? I just wanted to go and say, I'm not going to go there no more because it's too far. I fucking love it. So thank you very much for taking me out of my comfort. It's an honor to have a academy. It's an honor here to be on the show. I'm so thankful for you guys
Starting point is 01:39:42 give me a chance to express this life. I love your English, brother. Still, I'm going to work on the accent. No, you can't fuck the accent. No, that makes you international. You should keep it. Yeah, keep the accent, brother.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Listen, if you're listening to the podcast, do me a favor if you're in the L.A. area, you're visiting. If you live here in the Valley, whatever, come on down to the Academy in Beverly Hills or the new school in Culver City. The webpage will be up. Look for Higand. You'll get two weeks for free at the Academy.
Starting point is 01:40:09 or at the new school in Culver City once it comes up. I'm having a great time going down on Mondays and Wednesdays. I know he has a class on Saturday and they have classes every night, either 7 or 815. I think 815 is Tuesday and Wednesday. Yes. 7.11 on Monday and Wednesday. Yeah, the website is the Academy, the Academy, Beverly Hills.com,
Starting point is 01:40:31 and then the phone number is 424-274.32. Just mention about the show, and I give you guys two weeks for air. Just be sure you'll ask for Higah Marshall. And ask for Higin. Right? Ask for Higgan. You'll see him.
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Starting point is 01:44:35 And U.S. and Canada. Who's better than you? Me and these are called Slash Joey. Slash Joy. I almost burned the fucking paper with the lighter here and stuff. He gave him a chattano. How much do I love you? I love yourself.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Thank you for giving me a chance. You know, I was very intimidated to come to the academy. I thought, you know, I didn't know what to expect, and it's definitely one of the best moves I made. It's a pleasure to have you. And I'm going to go until I get my black belt. I don't care if I'm 75 fucking years old. So you heard it right here today.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Don't forget he has this. The brothers all get together. in Dallas next weekend. It starts on Wednesday. You go down there. You get to hang out with the brothers, ask questions, go to dinner.
Starting point is 01:45:12 It's going to be a great time. I wish I was healthy enough to go, and I didn't have to fucking work like a slug that I am. But go to the web page. RCJ Machado Pro. All right. Go down there. They got hotel information.
Starting point is 01:45:24 You can fly into fucking Dallas. You go to Fogo to Chau. They got great restaurants in Dallas. If you like white bitches, they got tons of dirty white bitches. They got everything. Do you have that in the comment? That's not the brochure, all right?
Starting point is 01:45:36 If you like dirty white bitches, go to Dallas Day. They do everything. They like their hair's on fire. They do whatever the hell you want. Lee Syatt, what's going on with you, brother? Everything good? Everything is great. What are you down to 60 pounds?
Starting point is 01:45:47 Yeah, I just hit 60. You're looking beautiful. Thank you, but I'm happy you're doing what you're doing, man. And Mr. Machado, thank you very much. Thank you very much. It's an honor to have you. It's an honor that you took me as a student and as a friend. I love you very much.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Thank you. Have a great week. Don't forget. I'm in Baltimore this weekend. Thursday, Friday, Saturday at the Joke Factory. Next weekend I'm at the Miami Home Field, whatever the fuck of these, sports bar and grill, Thursday, Friday,
Starting point is 01:46:12 and Saturday. Then the 29th, the night Ari's doing this special. They're sold down, so if you're not doing anything, come to the ice house. Lee and I are going to do a live podcast. And that's where it at, Coxsuckers. I love you. Thank you again, sir. Thank you, sir. And have a great week. Leesler read the rest of the shit to you, and then you can move on with your life.
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Starting point is 01:47:44 thank you for coming on if you go to see hegan machado at the academy beverly hills.com and it's in beverly hills and Wilster Boulevard go there and mention the church and you're going to get two weeks for free like masses
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