The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #236 - Joey Diaz, David Foley and Lee Syatt
Episode Date: December 4, 2014David Foley, Owner of Iron Dragon TV and Ultraflix joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout. Nature... Box. Visit Naturebox.com and use promo code Joey for a free trial box Meundies.com Go to meundies.com/joey for 20% off. Iron Dragon TV. A New Roku channel with all the best martial arts films. Use Code words joey or church for two free rentals. Recorded live on 12/03/2014.Music:Rage Against The Machine - Guerilla RadioBiggie Smalls - Big Poppa
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Just when you thought it was safe, motherfuckers.
Wash that muffler.
Out of that nut sack is going down.
Fuck sitting there on a Wednesday night sitting there.
What am I going to do?
Here it is, bitch.
The church.
Bad motherfuckers.
December 3rd, Santa Barbara's birthday tonight.
Oh shit.
So wiggily.
With your little brown sweater on, look, I'm throwing heat and shit.
You fucking savage.
What's going on, baby?
I couldn't wear this for a while.
If you go to Vegas, you got to shave the neck.
I don't want them to think I'm hanging out with fucking Weirwolf's nephew.
You know what I'm saying?
With Wolfie's nephew and shit.
Shave the neck so you look sharp.
Get some moose tonight on the way home.
I have no hair to put moose in.
He says every night.
Listen, if you put moose on your hair, the fucking hair will grow.
No, it doesn't.
It's the psychology of the fucking movement, Lee Syiat.
It's the psychology.
year to move. The hair follicles open up
and go, ooh, what's that flavor? Let's
go out and see some sunlight. You put some
moose on your hair, you start walking around.
It's like fucking putting fertilizer on
grass, you know what I'm saying? The sun will hit it.
By fucking next year, you'll be looking like Chris
Cornell. You'll have like a hair doing, wolfy
beard and shit. I wish. What did you do
today? I went and
saw Iron Dragon TV's New Studio,
which is amazing, or not news studio. It's an office
building. I had lunch with Paula,
and I ate cactus, which is really weird.
What did you eat cactus? Her mom. Her mom.
mom pickles it. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ.
She's the type of Mexicans are these people.
The real deal Mexicans. She buys cactus
and pickles it. Did you take the
thorns on? No, they didn't have the thorns in it.
You just ate the cactus.
A pickle, I had one piece of... And you didn't hallucinate
or nothing? No, it was... Why are you eating
what is wrong? Last night, you're texting it because you got a headache.
What am I going to do with you? Oh, my God. So last
night, I went to the, two
comedy shows with Joey. On the way down,
I'm texting for like two
seconds, or when I get in the car just to say, I'm
and I'm going to be gone for a while.
And I've seen,
he's texting right now.
I've seen you text.
I'm not texting.
I'm texting.
And you go,
why are you texting her?
Because she has a headache.
I'm saying goodbye.
What the fuck headache?
What headache?
What does a headache?
The tacos still need to be made.
The tacos need to be made.
But fucking headache.
You got no time for this shit.
Polish the slippers,
put a hot towel in your head
and you're back to fucking work.
And then he got mad at me because I was hanging up pictures at my house.
Who hangs up pictures?
Who doesn't?
When she comes over,
you say,
Honey,
let me ask you something since you're here all the time
where would you like these pictures
and next thing you know she's getting a hammer
and a fucking ruler
to there you are like a doctor sitting there
and let her hang the fucking pictures
he's the one that's got to sit there
right or wrong what kind of pictures
did you hang movie posters a couple
movie posters I have a Boston wall
with all the sports teams and stuff
very nice I like it
did you hang a picture for her
do you consider it anything about her
like gone with the wind or the fucking
or Alana D'Rae with a pussy open
Nothing, no country
I have that one
That's a good one
Why don't you open
Right above the bin
Did you paint that wall green?
You filthy cock suck
Look at you
You go to the gym today
I didn't
Today was a day off unfortunately
All right
That's what you're supposed to do
You see even on the seventh day
You got to rest
You got those muscles to contract
You're fucking everything
You know
I know but after freaking these podcasts
I go home and eat my entire house
That's because you're a fucking go out
So do you
No I don't
I go pick a little bit
I eat like I drink coffee
It's a cheat.
I go home, I eat raspberries, fresh, and I drink coffee.
You had more than I did.
I had a salami.
I don't go home and eat 18 fucking rice patties,
92 granola bars, you know,
what the fuck?
What comes out of your ass?
It doesn't smoke good.
Granola bar? No, it can't smell good.
That granola is...
Your doesn't smell good. You farted next to me last night.
I had to walk away.
It was tremendous, though, outside.
We had a good time last night.
You have to have a good time.
Dave Foley.
How are you?
What the fuck, guy?
You're sitting there like a deaf mute.
How you doing today?
Good to have you in the house here.
Dave Foley's the president, Nanitech.
Yeah.
Who bring us 20,000 fucking things.
Yeah, absolutely.
The most importantly.
Iron Dragon TV and UltraFlix, which is amazing.
I was lucky enough to go down to their offices today.
And we had your buddy on who now, because I'm high, I'm blanking out his name.
What's his name?
The Screenbox guy?
Ray Canella.
Okay.
Talking about the future of TV.
and watching what you want.
Iron Dragon TV is a small part of UltraFix.
I'll let you explain it because it's your thing,
but it's going to be what everyone wants,
where you pay for the channels you want when you want it,
and it's not going to be 150 a month.
Again, I'm seeing more and more shit about cable going down to tubes online.
What's going on?
Yeah, well, what's happened is that with the growth of the,
the internet and the ability to deliver high-speed internet to everyone's home, you can now hook
up a box to your TV or the newest generation of TVs or all smart TVs, you can hook the TV
straight up to the internet, and you no longer are going to be tied to a cable service or satellite
service where you got to pay 120, $150 a month, correct?
And 150, I'm going to be an HBO.
Yeah.
And 90% of that you're never going to watch.
My TV stays on ESPN.
That's basically it.
And you're very nice and brought me a Roku, which Iron Dragon TV is on, and has the ESPN app.
That's right.
Yeah.
And what you're seeing is all of the providers have realized that what's happening is people are watching Netflix.
Netflix is 30% of the internet traffic now.
Are you here?
The entire internet traffic?
The entire internet traffic.
People want to be able to just go and pick what they want when they want it.
They don't want to wait for something to roll by, record it in the DVR, hope you got it.
You know, the ball game went late.
You get half your show.
What people want is they say, okay, I want to watch whatever show it is.
I want to watch two, three episodes right now.
Give it to me.
And that's how television's going.
Everyone's moving to a complete al-a-cart system.
So you've got all the channels are now going to be their own individual little apps,
whether it's on your smart TV or your Roku or your iPhone, your Android.
Everyone's going to a complete on-demand system.
And that was a cool thing about going to see your office today.
Like you showed me you're creating apps for not only Iron Dragon,
TV, but also for UltraFix.
And it's going to stream 4K quality on your tablet.
That's right.
We're streaming 4K right now to your television, and we're coming out next week with a release
that's going to run on your tablet, run on your phone.
Because a lot of the new phones now can do 4K.
A lot of the tablets can do 4K.
So, okay is kind of the new standard.
So explain what 4K is to people because a lot of people know, everyone knows HD.
Right.
And what that basically is, is when you see 1080, it's talking about the resolutions.
It's 1920 by 1080.
It's the amount of pixels on the television.
It's the ratio.
It's the resolution.
So the number of pixels on the screen, and HD's been around for a while.
And when HD came out, we went basically double the resolution, twice as many pixels and better color.
And what's happened is in the last year, 4K has become the new standard.
And what 4K is it's double the resolution horizontally and vertically.
So you have four times as much imagery on the same screen.
but you also have more colors.
And that's really important because what happens is
you have an image on the screen.
If you have more color depth,
then things look richer.
They look more vibrant.
You look more a lot of,
the biggest thing that I get from people
when they see 4K for the first time,
as they say it looks 3D without glasses.
It looks better than real life, honestly.
Like when I came over and watched today was beyond amazing.
That's right.
What made you start with martial arts?
movies. Well, I've been a big fan for a long time. My brother runs a dojo. And so been a big fan
of martial arts for years. And we started talking a couple years ago. And we said, well, you know,
we should really look into what are we going to do as this kind of market shifts from the way it is now to
the new era. And one of the things we talked about was doing a martial arts channel.
What was I watching today? Like Tai Chi Hero? Tai Chi's era? Yeah, yeah. It was like 300, but in,
but in with like martial arts, like Asian people, it was amazing. Like blood was flying.
everywhere. Like that must that kind of stuff must look amazing. Oh, just it looks incredible. And
you know, they're shooting a ton of new martial arts movies right now, but we're also expanding.
So for the last couple of years, in anticipation of launching Iron Dragon, we started sponsoring
UFC fighters. And so we started reaching out because we figured when we come to start launching
the channel, we're going to reach out to people like you guys who have a lot of connection with a lot
of the MMA crowd. We started sponsoring the fighters. And, you know, we've got Tim
Kennedy, Michael McDonald,
WSOF champ,
Dave Huckabah is on our roster.
You know,
we've got a lot of these guys
that we sponsor,
and those fans of those fighters
are going to want to come to the channel.
And so not only do we have,
right now,
we have modern martial arts movies,
we've got the classics,
but we're adding a bunch of stuff.
We're starting to work with the Onet folks,
and we're putting some of their training videos up on the chat.
I saw that.
I saw that.
Yeah, so we're going to give all the Onet stuff
for free on the channel.
So you can go up and watch any of the Onet videos,
the informational videos for free.
So you don't have to load up your computer
and go to YouTube to look at the honor videos.
You can do it right on your television now with Iron Dragon.
Now before you tapped into this market of martial arts,
where was the martial arts community, basically?
Because it disappeared in my eyes.
It did.
But I lost...
It really was, you know...
It was relegated to DVDs
and just, you know, going on Amazon
and finding somebody that had a DVD and buying it.
But it's not like it was 15, 20 years ago
where they had releases in the States.
it's only like a Jackie Chan or the other young man
who's the other nonnie Ann no the other one
that's a good-looking one that's on the expendables
oh let me look at him Jet Lee
Jet Lee you know if it's Jet Lee he gets
American distribution yep and they're American companies
anyway and if it's Jackie Chan
that's right but Jackie Chan also shoots a bunch of movies abroad
that's right
and they did like 19 there's 1911 the
the little big soldier I mean they're
they're shooting a lot of movies
in China and they're shooting a lot of movies in Korea.
And they're good movies.
I mean, this is quality stuff.
Not only visually, but the effects are amazing.
And they're doing a lot of the wirework and, you know, those crazy spinning scenes that
used to be kind of neat and they'd have one or two of them.
Now they're just going psycho with this stuff.
And it's amazing.
I remember when that scene hit, I was just coming here from a cube and getting my feet wet.
You know, like everybody else, I was a confused, six-year-old.
and I'm watching this fucking Green Hornet guy.
You know, on Sunday nights, you watch this Green Hornet.
And this little Chinese guy was a butlin,
and then he put a mask on, and he started to fucking motherfuckers up.
Then he disappeared.
And then, you know, he came back his fist of fury, this Chinese guy.
And then all these movies started popping up, you know.
Five fingers of death, one-arm swordsman, the Chinese family,
you know, all these little movies.
And I used to go see them.
between the Bruce Lee's and in those releases.
There was always a movie theater
that had a Bruce Lee movie playing at 11 o'clock.
So you always had all-reliable.
But if something new came out,
you at least went to see the new stuff.
And somewhere, Sunny Cheba is where I lost.
My mother died.
I didn't have access to my own TV anymore.
I think society kind of dropped out for a while, too,
because if you look at it, the 70s were just awesome.
That was it.
That was the birth.
Like you said, every weekend there was something new coming out.
And the 80s weren't bad either.
They tailed off, though.
They tailed off in the mid-80s.
That's right, about 85.
And I think what's happened is that the UFC has done an amazing marketing job,
getting people back into martial arts and giving it kind of a more of a common name.
And you're seeing a lot of dojoes pop up.
You're seeing a lot of kids doing martial arts again.
I think it's had a real resurgence in the last decade.
And so what's happened is that, you know, you've now got this.
popularity back, you've got an audience once again,
so they're starting to make movies again.
It's funny that
the fighters who go to those old movies,
they'd probably pick up little moves.
Oh, yeah.
They were doing sharper, weirder type stuff.
I haven't watched any.
The last movie I watched that I really enjoyed
was a Jet Li movie.
Like, he took it back to old school martial arts.
There was one movie where people told me,
you have to watch this.
I've heard you have conversations about,
I forget the name of the movie.
he's a they fuck him up and the black guys in it I think that's the one I watch a couple of his movies
Jackie Chan I've seen whatever's popular in the States I've never seen any of his work
in China you know what's funny is that the some of the movies he's done are actually really funny
so like little big soldier it's it's it's a comedy I mean it's got martial arts and it's got
you know kind of Chinese Revolutionary War stuff but it's a funny movie he's hysterical in that
I did a film years ago, 18 Fingers of Death.
I played Decatur in the movie.
And every once in a while, people look at me and go,
and I go, I know the longest yard in my head,
and they'll go, 18 fingers of death.
And I'll fucking look at them like you whack it do.
Because no, it's on showtime.
It's on Showtime.
They'll run it for three months.
I've never gotten a dime on it.
What studio produced that?
I have no fucking idea.
I got to call it three in the afternoon
to go to Avenue of the Stars.
I was at the comedy store that night.
I went down.
It was $100 a day to shoot the movie.
It was just, I went in there one afternoon on a high hand.
In 06, right?
Yeah, it was that it?
Who's the Chinese guy in the movie?
Shane Aaron, Koji Abe?
No, the star.
Shane Aaron has the first one.
Really?
This is a Chinese guy, that Dennis Liu, something.
He's the one that produced a movie, or he's the one I read for.
James Liu.
James.
directed it.
I was real excited to be in one.
I didn't know.
It was more of a comedy-type genre.
But when we spoke, I enjoyed, there's a market for it.
A couple weeks ago I was home.
It was Friday night.
You know, a Shark Tank was on.
My wife and I were talking.
And about 9.30, she pulled the I'm fucking tired card.
And usually I go all the way up to 329 on Friday nights.
It's VH1 classics.
They usually have Sawiners the same.
or the Who from Wembley, they have something always.
And this particular, and my finger kept scrolling.
And somewhere, boom, I saw five fingers of death.
That was the original. Originally, I saw that in a drive in theater.
I saw that at the Clifton 3, which is non-existent.
And that's where the kid studies and his hand gets red.
And when he gets pissed off, he would hit you with the hand and you'd fucking die and shit.
But it was mindboggling.
And every kid wanted to have the iron palm technique.
We all went into Chinatown.
and bought the bean bags with the chin-chin juice,
and you'd hit the fucking thing a certain way,
and you'd hope that it would get red,
but just, I watched it, I taped it,
and it was on El Ray.
What's his name's channel?
The fucking dude who did Sin City.
What's his, Alex Mardi Gras,
whatever his fucking name is.
What's going on with you tonight?
You're supposed to be on point.
You don't know nothing.
You don't know nothing.
You don't know nothing.
What three quarters?
I give you a half of a chibon.
Rodriguez.
Oh, Robert Rodriguez.
Robert Rodriguez has a station, a network called El Ray.
And this one night he had five fingers of death.
So I started scrolling.
How interesting.
And then he comes in between and he answers questions.
And I taped it.
Then the next week the mechanic was on with Charles Bronson.
I taped that.
Oh, the original one.
Yeah, the original one.
Then I kept watching to see what was upcoming.
And he had a bunch of classic kung fu.
And I'm like, this is coming back.
And boom, three days later, Dave contacts me.
And I'm reading about this thing.
I go, holy shit.
this is coming back.
It's official.
And there's a market for it,
and kids are going to,
you know, it's like everything else.
It goes and it comes in this country.
You know, whatever's hot.
You know, all you got to do is go on there,
do the whatever the fuck it is,
99 cents, get you two free,
and just look at the genre there.
I was on the webpage,
and I was pretty much blown away.
You've got a lot of stuff on there, so.
You're adding, like, you said, 30 titles a month?
Yeah, so I actually brought you guys a list,
but, you know, if you look,
this is what we have live now,
and this is coming up in January.
And we've got another 200 titles going on in January.
Now, why not porn?
It's as easy just to start these for people to whack off.
That's why I love about you.
There's plenty of porn available, but there's only a limited access to the martial arts stuff.
And you can't get the nice quality stuff.
One of the things that we're doing is we're going back and remastering these films.
We came over today, and one of the things that we do is we have film scanners that can actually scan this in 4K digital.
And so we take the old 35 millimeter prints, we scan them into a brand new master at the highest resolution you can do.
We also do it in HDR.
So if you look on your phone, when you take pictures, you can turn on HDR, which does that kind of high range of color.
We're doing that with the film.
So we're actually taking nine pictures of every frame of film and building out this really high resolution image to start with.
We then go in and do the color correction.
We do all the fixing of any blemishes, scratches in the film.
and we come out with a print that looks brand new.
It looks like you would have saw it in the theater
right as it came out.
Now, what was your history?
When we went out to dinner that night,
you told me a story that was just fucking blown away.
Like, I was just sitting there.
Student?
Yeah, I actually, I grew up in Maine and went to school in Boston
when I moved to Boston in 83.
And two weeks in Boston,
I was looking for a job to help pay for school,
and I got an internship at the Celtics office.
And so I was in there, and I'm handing out flyers to the press
and just doing odd jobs and whatever.
And this is, you know, 83.
There's no real computers anywhere.
Personal computers don't really exist that much.
The PC had just come out.
And so I was kicking around the office,
and I had done a lot of programming on PCs.
And so I convinced these guys, hey, you need computers to do this.
You know, they're doing the stats by hand.
You've got six guys sitting at the scoring table every game.
One guy's doing tally marks for the free throws.
Another guy's doing shots.
Another guy's doing rebounds.
After the game, these guys have to sit there and tally all this stuff up,
type it up on a typewriter, print it out, and then send it on a mimeograph to the league office.
And I said, this is crazy.
There's this thing called a spreadsheet.
You can have one guy type this into a computer.
Boom, you're done.
You print it out.
Five minutes later, you're done.
So for the next seven years, I worked at the Boston Garden for the Celtics doing all their IT, all their computers.
At the same time, I picked up a job at BCN.
Do you remember WBCN?
Of course, yeah.
They used to be a great rock channel.
Yeah, it was classic rock station.
So I had developed this little box that you plug into your PC, and you type in and it would speak.
And this is based on one of the old Texas Instruments chips way back when.
It was very crude, but it was pre-Syri, right?
This is what you could do in the 80s, like War Games, if you remember that movie.
They had the talking computer.
Oh, yeah.
You know, it was do you want?
to play a game, you know, really crude stuff. So I'm at the garden. The sports guy who was doing
coverage for WBCN would come in. And one of my jobs was before the game, I was sitting at the
press gate handing out the stat sheets and everything for the night to all the media. And this guy
comes in. And I said, I pulled him aside. I said, hey, Tank, who do I talk to to to get an
interview at your radio station? I have a really great idea. So he gives me the phone number
of the program director.
So I called this guy up.
And instead of talking to him, I have the computer talk to him.
And he's just digging it, right?
This is early 80s.
People don't do this crazy stuff.
So he says, what are you doing tomorrow morning?
I said, nothing.
I just got class at 10.
He's like, can you be at the studio at 5?
Absolutely.
Bring your computer with you.
He sets me up, and they have a morning show there that's sort of like a Howard
Stern type show.
It's called Charles Lockwood Air and the Big Mattress.
They sit me down next to Billy West.
Do you know who Billy West is?
one of the funniest guys you ever meet.
He's a comedian.
He did voices for Renan Stimpy.
He filled in at Stern's show for a while after Jackie left.
Anyways, he was there.
He's a comedian, local comedian in Boston.
They sit me down next to him, and he just starts writing out jokes.
Hands me a sheet of paper.
Just type this.
So I just type blindly, whatever.
And we have this computer doing crank phone calls,
calling people up going, this is the IRS.
You owe $8 million, right?
Waking people up.
the middle of the morning with this talking computer.
I was on the air the next day.
It was just crazy.
It was really just like, wow, you know, a neat intro into it.
And I really got into radio and music at that point.
And I started working the morning show, started working Sunday nights,
producing a new music show, started DJing, doing a lot of gigs there in Boston.
And so I kind of had the dream two jobs in the world in Boston, right?
Yeah.
Worked for the Celtics, worked for BCN.
and that helped put me through college.
So I was there from 83 to 90.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then while I was in college, I wrote a little program that sped up computers.
Back in those days, hard drives were really slow.
And a buddy of mine and I had built this program that made them really fast.
And we got a call from Ashton Tate who had a program called D-Base, a big database program.
And we sold it to them.
And that gave me the freedom to do whatever I wanted.
And so all my college buddies had already moved out to California to the Bay Area
because that's where all the computer companies were, all the high tech was happening.
And so in 90, I pulled up and just moved out to California.
And I got out there and picked up a job at Bank of America.
And it was just boring as hell.
It's doing a trading software.
And it's just like, this is not what I want to do.
And I got a call from a buddy of mine who was working on a game for Sega.
on the Sega Genesis.
He's like, we need your help.
So I was like, absolutely, I'm in, told the bank, thanks.
Here's my two weeks, I'm out of here.
Started writing video games.
And so did Spider-Man v. Kingpin,
and then that went really well,
so started doing more and more games
and did a bunch of games for the Sega Genesis
and Super Nintendo through the 90s.
And happened to be in San Francisco
rate when the whole internet was kicking off
and multimedia, and we actually built this really cool thing that was way too before it's time,
but we built something that was called the Sega Channel.
And what this was was you took your Sega Genesis up, put your cable TV cable into your Sega Genesis,
and it would download games over the cable TV system.
You invented the Internet, essentially?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
This is before the Internet.
But what we did was we gave you the ability to download games using the cable TV system.
How would that work?
You took the wire from your wall.
You ran it into your Genesis.
We made a little adapter, and you ran that out to your cable TV box.
And then we just had a channel.
It was a special channel on the cable system that would send games down to your game console.
That's amazing.
So it was really fun to do, but it was way before its time and nobody really got it.
They were like, well, no, you put a cartridge in.
It's like, no, no, you don't need you hit the menu and it will download.
So we kicked around doing that for a while, did a bunch of games on the Sega Genesis and the Super Nintendo.
And during that time, you could develop a game.
You could do three or four months with four or five guys.
You could do a game.
And these systems, if you remember, I mean, it was pretty shitty graphics.
And you didn't have a lot of memory.
The game cartridges that the games came on, that was less than a floppy worth of storage.
So you didn't have a lot of room for anything
So your music was pretty low quality music
Your graphics were very small
But the games are always so fun
Oh yeah well that's
You had to make them fun because you couldn't
They didn't look good
They didn't sound good
So you're only choice is to make them really fun to play
I'm sorry
My mom never let me have video games
So my first one was I got a PS1
When the PS2 came out
I was so far behind
Well the PS1 was what got me out of the video game business
in the home console market because what happened is we were kicking out three to four games a year
and it would cost us about a hundred grand to produce a game and so of those four games we did a year
say one just got dropped none of the publishers would ship it two of them you'd ship but they
didn't do very well you'd break even make a little money one of them did well you made some good
money you made that's where you made your profit so it's kind of like you know we were talking about
earlier, but where you take 10 calls and maybe you get two callbacks.
That's what we were doing with games, right?
You make four of them, and one of them would make you money.
And then the PlayStation came out, and the whole world changed.
So at that time, there was a ton of little shops like we had.
We had like 18 people in my shop, and we were cranking out four games a year.
And there was a lot of those shops around the Bay Area, a lot of people, little independent
studios making video games.
PlayStation comes out.
you've got much better graphics.
You've got this powerful CPU
and you've got a CD player.
So now you're going from 512K
to save everything to 650 megabytes.
So now you've got to have an art team.
You've got to have 12 people doing art for a year.
In our first PlayStation game,
we spent a million dollars developing it.
So we went from 100 grand to a million in development costs
and it got killed at beta.
so we never even shipped it.
Jesus.
Yeah.
So it was like, okay, we're done.
Got to move on to something else because the risk was too high.
And what you saw was a huge consolidation in the video game business at that point.
And all the studios got swallowed up.
Either people like me went on to another market or they got swallowed up by electronic arts.
Art Division.
Yeah.
And now it's a battle of the big games.
You look at the games now.
They spend more than they spend on a movie developing a video.
game and they take longer to do.
It's basically, some of them have movies within them, like that one of those
halos.
They had a, multiple movies with them.
Yeah, that's just it.
And it's just as complex as scripting a movie, but then it's even more because they can't
just build a set.
You can't have a couple of guys with a hammer build a set.
You've got to have 12 artists do all this stuff in 3D.
Have you ever called in for a video game, Joey?
A couple times.
Really?
Do you ever do one?
One, I got a couple callbacks for.
It was going to be a whole month, the shooting.
Every mobster in town is down there.
Every wannabe, Russian, everybody.
I never heard nothing else.
I get calls once a year, here and there, but no, not as much as I should.
What do actors think of that?
Like, that woman who does those progressive commercials must be a trillionaire.
But when you go to be an actor, you're probably like, oh, I want to be a movie star.
I would imagine...
She was about to pack her bags.
That's the word on the street.
Are he's friends of it.
she was about to move when she got the call for that
you know
you're here in town you're trying to make it
people advise you against all these things
where's the fucking do I hear you now guy
oh yeah the horizon guy where is he
where's the horizon guy but he made six million
so it's what he did with the money
and did he invest he tried to reinvent himself
he lost the glasses and got a heck of
because I read something about him
when I got here McDonald's had two guys
one of them was a comedian they killed it
for a year. They would do every McDonald's commercial.
And they did McDonald's on the road or some shit.
You don't know when you come out here. You come out here to act,
and all of a sudden you're going in for a progressive commercial.
What does she shoot? Two of those are fucking month?
Two of those a month.
There's always a new one, yeah.
And they air and they're all cable, so she's making a great living, you know?
They're airing on and on and on.
Yeah, listen, you come out here. If I got called in right now for,
what's the big video game, Torrid Duty?
Call a duty, yeah.
Call of duty.
They give you eight minutes in there and your main character, whatever the fuck.
And all of a sudden you go from 8 to 22, you did 16 episodes.
What do you give a fuck?
You know, it's work.
Right.
Your insurance is covered.
For me, acting is like one of the things I do.
It's one of the things I do.
I love when I do it.
I'm about to shoot a movie.
I worked on it today with them.
I'm about to shoot a movie next week, all next week.
Friday, Thursday.
And it's good.
I got a week off from everything else.
For a week, I have to worry about stand-up.
I just go in there and I act.
But I can't imagine people who just act.
I couldn't even imagine.
That's a hard fucking gig.
That's why it's great what David did.
I'm good with computers.
I know how to work them.
I'm very good with like,
like with this Roku.
I won't with the directions.
I can just figure out how to use it.
I've never been good at.
And I don't never really try it, but programming.
And that's so cool that you could go from video games.
to, I don't even know what the next step was, but...
Well, programming is really, it's all the same, right?
You're just, it's a set of instructions telling a piece of electronics what to do.
And once you have the basic idea of doing it, it's, you know, if you were crafting clay pots
and then all of a sudden someone gives you some other material to work with,
it's going to be the same kind of skill set.
You understand the, you know, the motions.
It's just you move on to the next chip, the next piece of hardware.
So where did you go after you decide on to the videos?
So we moved out of the home market into the arcade market.
So this is the mid-90s, like 96.
And at the time, the arcade machines were still better than the home machines.
What arcade games do you work on?
Well, so my first game, one of the things that I looked at was,
all right, you're coming into a market and all the arcade guys,
Midway, Atari, all them are making a new computer for every arcade machine.
They're building a brand new piece of electronics.
And at the time, the PC market was just becoming powerful enough where you could do a game on a PC that was better than an arcade machine.
And so it was actually, it was very funny.
The guy that I wrote the speed up program with back in the 80s, he called me up in 95.
He's like, I spent my money.
You know, the money we got, he's like, I spent it all.
We got to go back to work.
I said, well, we're doing video games.
he's like, all right, I'm on it.
He moves out to San Francisco.
We sit down and we formulate a plan,
and what we decided to do was build a platform,
instead of having to build a new computer
every time you build an arcade game,
is build a platform where you could use all the programming tools,
all the graphics tools on a PC,
as opposed to having developed that stuff from scratch.
And went down to Texas to ID software
and met with those guys and got the license to Quake.
And we took Quake,
It was a great game.
We made an arcade version of Quake.
And it was sit down, big projector screen, controls in the arms of the chair, and then we linked eight of them together.
And so you had an arcade game with eight-seat deathmatch.
Whoa.
And then what we did was we sold that to Sega GameWorks, and then we connected all the GameWorks.
So GameWorks in Ontario Mills, down in Dallas, up in Seattle, all linked together.
So you sat down a death match with 64 other people in the arcade.
And so that was our first arcade game.
I love that game.
And in order to do that, we had to do a bunch of stuff on the PC at the time.
It was Windows 98.
And Windows 98 was not meant to be just shut off by pulling the plug, right?
You did that, and then you boot it up, and you had this safe mode.
Oh, God, yeah.
And the thing bitched and all that.
So we built all these tools that would prevent all that and made it an embedded system.
And we built I.O. cards and video card drivers so that you could actually have this stuff.
and Intel was very excited about this.
So we got a call from Intel.
They were just down the street,
and they had me go out and tour for a year
speaking at the video game conventions
talking about you should put Intel inside your arcade machines.
And so we started building all these arcade PCs,
and we landed contracts.
So like Atari, we landed at a contract with Atari and with Midway.
They started building all of their games based on my computer
as opposed to building their own hardware.
hardware.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, how much time would that save them?
Saved them a lot of time and a lot of money because they didn't have to develop everything
from scratch.
That's crazy.
I love arcades.
Yeah.
I was like my whole, because I never had one as a kid, so every time I went to the mall.
Well, and that is what bred my next project.
So this was 98, and I had just, I sold that company to a company that was spun off from
3D FX, which at the time was the big 3D chip.
and we had this idea to take all the old classic games and put them in one cabinet.
And so we sent a guy over to Japan to Capcom and he got the license for all the old classics.
So, you know, Street Fighter, Street Fighter 2, Bomber Man, all these games.
And then he went to Taito and then he went to Jalco and all these Japanese guys who were,
these things were just sitting in a shelf collecting dust.
They had written them off years ago.
And so we said, give us.
the license for these games, and we built the machine, put them all in one machine.
And so we built this machine called the Ultricade.
Wow.
And the Ultricade started out with eight games, and then it had 16, and then it had 32.
And by the time we were done eight years later, that machine shipped with 85 titles, and
you could put 256 classic games in it.
And it had every classic arcade game in it.
Yeah, one of my last offices had one of those.
Yeah.
It was amazing.
Yeah, it was a really popular machine.
We had it in Sky Mall for several years, and it was in Costco.
You could buy them at Costco.
And I was out there a month ago and went by the break room at Costco and saw one of them.
It's like, hey, there it is.
Do you play a lot of games?
I used to.
I used to play a lot of games.
Lately, I haven't had that much time, but...
Well, you're away from it now.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
When you're in the business, you've got to play fucking games.
Yeah, yeah.
I had a ton of games and see what the competitor has and what's new.
Yeah.
I've never been a game guy.
I was telling my wife about games the other day.
Like the longest lasting game I could play was Battleship.
Battleship was the fucking shit.
You know, Monopoly, once I bought the Blue Proffery.
I've never finished a game of Monopoly.
Me neither.
Never finished the game of Monopoly.
A full game. It always ends.
People get pissed off.
People walk away.
Yeah. And it was, I never really dug computer games.
I don't know what it.
was I would go to get weed at drug dealer houses and I would see how they'd act with those
fucking games oh they yeah they would just play up for hours you fucking guys kidding me and then the
coke dealer I'd go there all hours of the night and there'd be 20 people yelling and screaming
and I didn't understand I'd sit there and watch and I go wow this is uh and madden I'd never
played a fucking game guys I don't know what you motherfuckers are talking about PCs and arcades
well it was it was interesting because when I was in junior high school I
I remember playing an arcade machine called Phoenix, and I played it for hours and hours.
And the town I in was a real small town, and so they only had four machines there.
They had a Dragons Layer, which was like, state of the art at the time was a Laserdisc cartoon game,
and you just had to make a decision.
And then here it is 20 years later, I own the rights to Phoenix to put on the Ultricade,
and we did the 25th anniversary edition of Dragonslayer.
So we got the license for it, and we re-release.
released it and we did Dragons Layer, Dragons Layer 2 and Space Ace all in one cabinet.
And the best part about doing the re-release is we added a feature where you put a second
quarter in and we'd give you hints.
We'd tell you, press up now.
Oh, wow.
So what it's kind of like is a lot of people, younger people, are big into vinyl now.
They love going and seeing the old.
The retro stuff.
It's kind of the same thing.
And especially when people my age and when older people go,
They want to play the games that they had as a kid.
They don't want to play the new crazy games at the arcade.
Now, I play Miss Pac-Man, I like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I like the one with the missiles that came out,
and you have to shoot the shit.
Missile Command.
Those are the ones that are in all the laundry mats.
Right, yeah.
When you go to a laundry mat or a bus stage,
and so as a comic, I'd be on the road,
and I'd have a three-hour wait,
and I'd get like a dollar in quarters
and play Miss Pac-Man.
But so the arcades are the ones that you sit down to.
That's right.
And two people could play them.
That's right.
I know a thousand people who have those things.
Yeah.
My friend had one in his house in his bedroom, like in his office.
He had one of them.
I played Miss Pac-Man the whole fucking time, but he bought it off line,
so it would like shut off by itself after like 45 minutes.
You got to let it cool off at 25 fucking minutes of some shit.
That's right.
Well, those old machines, the circuits inside were these boards that were this big.
And now we've replaced it with a little board that's this big
and runs all the games on that one board.
It's amazing.
Do you think it's ever going to happen?
And I know is the PlayStation is trying it
Where you can stream video games?
Yeah, so there's actually
There's a really neat thing that Nvidia is doing
Where you play the game
But the game's being played on a server in the cloud
And all it's doing is delivering the video
From the game to your screen.
So there's no memory being taken.
You don't need an Xbox.
You don't need an expensive player.
You just need something that can handle the streaming.
And that's coming.
That stuff's coming real quick.
Oh, that's so cool.
Yeah.
I've played with some prototypes of it
because we did a 4K streaming box
with InVita last year.
And so we've seen some of that stuff
that they're working on.
And it'll be in the market
coming up in the first quarter this year.
You'll see it at CES this year.
And it's amazing.
I mean, you can play
what would be a super high-end computer
on your TV.
The graphics are that good
without having a console.
That's crazy.
when I went to your office today you had a 4K film scanner yeah
and we were we were talking about how a few years ago
everyone was 3D crazy everyone wanted a 3D TV and it kind of fizzled out
essentially and you were saying how you had to buy on 4K before this happened
it's kind of crazy because a lot of people made mistakes on HD DVDs instead of
a blu-ray or something a lot of people lost a lot of money developing 3D
stuff too. And it was a gamble. But, you know, two years ago, we saw at the Consumer Electronics
show, we saw the 4K TVs done. They weren't prototypes. They were done. They were working. And we said,
this is where the market's going to go. And so we invested in, we bought two of those film scanners.
We had the first, we were the first company to get two of those film scanners in. And we've been
just scanning, like Madman. We've got one down here. We've got one up in San Francisco. And
we just have them going 24-7 just scanning film.
And one of the things that we do is that we're not, when you were scanning an HD, you were just doing it.
You could scan pretty fast.
Scanners didn't take that long to scan because all they were doing was taking an image of each frame and then stapling it together into a movie.
And so people know there's thousands of frames in a movie because it's like 24 frames a second.
So times that by 60 times out over many hours.
Yeah.
And so we actually take nine pictures of every frame of film.
And what we do is we flash it.
with different brightnesses of red green and blue light and then a couple flashes of white light.
And that gives us this really high dynamic range like HDR on your phone when you take a picture.
If you set it to HDR, you notice it takes a little bit longer to take the picture.
Because what it's doing is it's taking multiple pictures at different color depths
to give you this kind of more vibrant image.
And we're doing that because right now you can do 4K at 10-bit color.
But next year, you've got Dolby coming out with this new color space.
that's going to make it even brighter and even more vibrant.
And so we're kind of scanning them once, keeping them on our servers
so that next year we can go back and deliver an even better version of the film.
And then you were saying that you have, because what you're doing is you're not going back
and just copying a DVD, which isn't that great of quality.
You're going back and finding the film versions of them.
That's right.
So whenever we can, we try and get the internegative.
If we can't get that, we'll take a print.
We can scan either of those.
And we're scanning it with a brand.
The sensor inside of there scans down to three nanometers.
So it will actually give you 4K image off of a 35 millimeter print.
Who else is doing this right now?
So you've got Netflix has got about 20 hours.
They've got the House of Cards.
They've got one season of Breaking Bad and a few other things, but nothing else.
And Amazon's got a few things.
And it's interesting because the big,
studios, you know, we're working with the big studios to try and get them on board, but everyone
got bit by 3D, so everyone's kind of, well, let's see what happens this Christmas with the TVs.
Well, we're just like, no, no, it's here, it's coming. Give us the film. We'll invest the money.
We'll pay for the scan. We'll pay for the color correction. Let's put it in.
And you said 10,000 4K TVs were told last weekend? We had 10,000 new registrations just from
Samsung. Yeah. 10,000 Samsung's. Yeah. I mean,
They're predicting a million TVs this Christmas season in 4K.
And these Kung Fu classics will be ready for those TVs?
Yeah, so we've already got about 30 of these films in 4K in the new ultra-high-deaf,
and we're doing more and more.
And what we've done with Iron Dragon is because that process takes a while,
we got a lot of these original masters in Digi Beta format,
so they're kind of the old pre-dvd format.
And if it's bad quality or low-quality stuff,
that's not up to par.
We'll put it on the channel
and we'll put it up there for free.
So you can watch it,
watch it for free.
Excuse me.
As we get the films in,
we get them scanned,
we get them cleaned up,
color corrected,
and brought up into this new resolution,
then we'll replace it on the channel,
put those up for, you know,
$0.99 to a couple dollars,
depending on the film,
and deliver them in this super high quality.
And Lee saw a couple of them today,
and it's just stunning.
And it's amazing going back
and everyone's seen an older film,
print when it gets all discolored and there's scratches everywhere seeing that for some of the free
stuff and then going to the new 4K it's just uh what do you say to people who because the TVs
can be a little bit expensive but like what do you say people like eh HD's good enough like if you
hadn't seen it 4K before well you the funny thing is we get that a lot and it's like you know just
go over to Best Buy and take a look yeah because there's a difference a lot of people you know
It can't be that much better, you know.
And there's people to say, well, if you read the specs at eight feet, you can't tell the difference.
You go look because you can tell the difference at eight feet.
Yeah.
You know, but I mean, if you sit here and year after year, you get presented with something,
and they tell you it's going to be the next big thing.
You know, we both have white hair.
We've seen everything.
The iPod, this, that, you know.
Lazzoon, yeah.
And it's like, at times a consumer has to go, well, let's give a shot.
and let's see if it fucking catches on.
Yeah.
I'm happy with my HD.
Well,
that's the beauty with a lot of our channels, too,
is that we deliver them in HD if you just have an HD device.
Things are fucking rough.
You know,
and if I have to keep up with my Apple phone,
my fucking TVs every year,
you know,
DVDs,
oh, now,
now DVDs don't work.
Fucking throw them away.
You got to own the Blu-Rays,
you got to send them to some Chinese guy,
and he's going to print them.
It just gets,
you know,
again,
we're talking about how the consumers,
always you're at home waiting to get fucked.
You're like, what's the next shoe going to drop?
I just want to buy a fucking TV and get movies.
That's it.
I don't want to leave the house.
What do I do?
Okay, so now you have Roku.
My wife lives on this shit.
That's right.
My wife lives on fucking Roku.
You guys are pushing Roku.
Ray Kinella, another buddy of ours,
gets on the podcast,
and he's like, throw your fucking cable TV away.
I still haven't caught on.
I still don't know what the fuck.
I watch what my wife is doing.
and it gets complicated.
If she's not in the room, I tell her, turn it off.
Turn it off because I don't know what the fuck's going on.
I got a press T3 button.
He invited me to dinner last week, so I went to his house first.
The first thing his wife said to me is he gets so pissed off on the Roku's left on the TV
because he can't switch it back.
I got to fucking press 19 buttons, and I'm in Mars somewhere,
and I can't watch my channel.
I want to see what the weather is.
So that's why I just get confused.
The next time I come down, I'll bring a Logitech remote with me for you.
You can just program one button.
Back to cable.
Make a button that says back to Roku.
We'll set that up for you.
Yeah, this is all confusing to me.
You know, I'm confused.
Right.
You have Netflix.
You have Hulu, plus.
You got this.
You got that now.
It's a matter of what you're used to, too.
You know, we grew up in the era where you just, you go through the numbers and you look for the channel.
And, you know, my son's nine, and he drives a Roku like it's nobody's business.
He doesn't cable TV or satellite TV.
It's foreign to him because he's grown up with, I want to watch this episode.
episode of this show now.
Boop, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo. There you go.
He doesn't know what it's like to wait up on December 19th, wait for, you know, Santa Claus is to come into town, 8 o'clock on CBS.
And if you don't stay up that night, boom, another year before that show's coming by again.
No, no, he wants this show now.
There you go.
And that's how people are going to watch TV.
I think the real thing holding it up is live sports, like not being able to watch that.
So when like all these.
television deals expire.
I would hope Roku or something would go to them and be like, listen, don't put it on live TV anymore.
But you can get a lot of that stuff on broadcast TV now.
So you don't have to have cable service.
You can just put up an aerial, you know, the aerial antennas are digital now.
Everything's broadcast in HD.
You can get most of the football games just by watching your local sports.
Right.
NBC, ABC, CBS, whichever.
Now, my big problem is I got a fucking problem, man.
This is my whole problem with all this shit
A big problem is I got a problem
I love the UFC
I love the UFC
But if I'm working on a Saturday night
And the fight happens
And I don't watch it live
I don't watch it
I'm one of those guys
I just don't watch it's already happened
The Sopranos comes on
At 6 o'clock California time
9 o'clock east
I'm just using the Sopranos
If I could figure out a way to get it
that fucking five.
I watch it.
With the Sopranos or any of the serials,
you can watch any episode anytime you want.
You don't follow what I'm saying to you.
Last night, we got two episodes left in Sonsa Anarchy.
Last night was one of them.
Episode As at 7.
I want to watch the episode at 7.
What do I do then?
Well, the way it's going to work is,
let's say Sons of Anarchy comes out on Tuesday night, right?
All they're going to do is they're going to make it available
Tuesday at 12.1 a.m.
You can watch any time of the day you want.
Just go get it.
That's what's happening with like House of Cards,
oranges and Big Mac.
That night, boom, it's ready.
Midnight. And you can pick it up anytime you want.
Paula and I are big fans of Houser Cards.
It comes out in like February or March.
We're already planning that whole weekend.
And they released it on Friday, Friday.
So now all weekend, we're just going to watch the entire season.
The part where that kind of fucks them up is
is that they don't have a whole season to draw the fans out.
Like if everybody watches everything in the first two weeks.
then there's nothing new coming out.
That's where the issue is, but they could start releasing it that way.
But they can just make it available, and then you don't have to wait for it to roll by.
Now, Netflix produces House of Cards, correct?
Yes.
They shoot it in-house, House of Cards.
Fuck it, just shoot 90 fucking episodes like TV's doing.
They shoot 99 episodes.
That's what they're doing.
A 10-99.
If they work in 10 episodes, you shoot fucking 8.
Like anger management?
That was the way that came out with.
Yeah, you shoot 89 fucking episodes.
You know, quick.
Yeah.
Three fucking years.
Yeah,
they're going to knock it right off.
They're going to knock it right off.
You know,
and then you're on to something else.
The actors can move on.
Everybody can move on.
It's a lot of work, you know, but...
But that's also kind of cool where, like,
Leshoku has a YouTube channel.
So maybe then if they're done watching that season of something,
they can go on YouTube and watch this podcast,
all the stuff that's on YouTube.
So I guess you might not need as much programming.
Because there's so much online amateur programs now,
Well, not only that, but you're going to get the access to the back catalogs.
Yeah.
You know, you're going to have HBO Go.
You're not going to be required pretty soon to have a cable subscription.
You're just going to be able to pay HBO directly and give them $10 and say,
give me your catalog.
Right.
No, it's amazing to, it's a new, like, frontier kind of, like what we're doing with podcasts
and what you're, what you've chosen to do with UltraFix.
It's just, you don't know if it's going to work, but you're hoping.
You're putting your eggs in the basket.
So in two years, what are we going to have, guys?
Break it down for me.
You're going to have a TV.
In two years, I go home, 11 o'clock at night.
I turn on, what news do I get?
Do I get?
I don't have no more direct TV.
You choose.
You say, I want to listen to Sky News.
I want to listen to CNBC.
I want to listen to headline news.
You just go click on whatever icon you want.
Boom.
You have your menu of all the news stories for the day.
You can say, I want to look at sports news.
I want to look at international news.
And am I getting at the minute?
That second.
Okay, so I want to get home at 10 to 11 and watch my local news, eyewitness news.
Well, they have over the air, like ABC, CBS Fox.
But a lot of them have apps now, too, where you can just pick it up.
Right.
So you can either just pick it up on the app or your TV will still have access to, like, the basic cable or networks.
These motherfuck.
So I can watch TV on my phone.
Yeah.
Yeah, and that's a cool thing.
I can watch the news on my phone.
That's right.
I mean, we're coming out with Iron Dragon TV on your phone and tablet next month.
So boom, I finish watching the news at 11 o'clock, 1130.
I want to watch a Kung Fu movie.
I smoke a fucking dube,
and I turn my phone on,
and I go to Iron Dragon TV slash Joey,
and I get two fucking movies,
and I watch six hours of entertainment on my iPhone.
There you go.
Sitting there in my room.
And the cool thing is,
because you smoke so many joints,
you're probably going from your bedroom
or the couch outside to smoke.
You can follow your TV.
You don't want to pause.
You're right into this middle of this fight.
We even set it up, so you can be watching on your TV,
pause the movie,
get on a plane, get in, check into your hotel,
room, pull out your phone and watch the red pickup
right where you left off on your phone. What about on the plane?
A lot of,
if you're flying Virgin or JetBlue,
they have Wi-Fi on the plane.
Well, all of them have Wi-Fi, right?
I just flew back to Boston and United.
There was no, there was no Wi-Fi.
They had one of those big TVs that pulled out of the ceiling.
That's it.
I was on the right brother's plane going back there.
United is scary.
American-ass Wi-Fi.
My wife signs me up.
I go in, boom.
Absolutely.
But any of them with Wi-Fi.
you'll be able to watch Iron Dragon on the plane.
So when I go on my plane, I get on the computer, boom, I go to fucking Google, whatever the fuck it is.
I pay him $499 for three hours.
I go to iron dragon TV.com, and I'm streaming right there.
You're streaming on the movie that you guys have.
That's right.
Am I fucking retarded?
Why haven't I been doing this, Lee?
What the fuck do you do, Lee?
Lee, do me a favor.
You got a lollipop for your uncle Joe?
What?
You got a flavor you want?
No, just get the whole bag.
Just get the whole bag.
What the fuck?
My blood sugar is down.
Talk sucker.
Look at Lee looking smooth tonight with his little brown sweater on.
You get that on the sail, too?
No, I had this one when I moved out, but I had to stop wearing it because whenever I raised my arm to steam my stomach.
You like that? You missed that.
No.
You're looking good, Lee.
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
When are you going to join the, you're going to do their age run?
You should do the age run.
I can't run worth this.
Even after all this time, have had the elliptical.
You could walk worth this shit.
This might put you right over the top.
You can walk the edge run?
Yeah, you can run it, jog it, half run.
And they train you, you go up to Pasadena.
My friend's doing it.
What am I going to Pasadena?
You go like in the morning, 11 o'clock,
and you go around to a USC track,
and they run you, then you come to a guy like me or Dave,
and you'll listen to any 10 cents for every mile.
I'm going to walk, and you walk 10 miles,
and we'll give you a dollar a mile.
You wouldn't give me shit, and you say, like, fuck you and your AIDS run.
I'm going to tell you.
Fuck those AIDS people.
No.
I wouldn't say fuck those AIDS people.
What I'd say to you is fucking, you know.
Yes, you would.
No, I would not.
I'd give you the $10.
He'd give you a rice cake and stay on your way.
Fucking Lee's already having.
No, I understand all this.
I just, I'm very scared.
I'm an old man.
It's a big change.
I mean, if you look at what happened a decade ago,
people were used to television.
You went home on a Thursday night to see your show, right?
If you were watching friends, you got home.
And then the TiVo came out.
And the TiVo changed how we watch television, right?
Now all of a sudden you don't have to rush home on Thursday night.
You just go, I like this show, I like this show, I like this show.
When you get home, it's recorded it for you.
You can watch it.
And we're at another change in how people watch television.
No longer do you have to set your TiVo and wait for it to come by.
Now you just go on and say, I want this show, this episode right now, give it to me.
And, you know, Netflix has done an amazing job kind of bringing that,
style of watching television to the market
and everyone's following suit now.
Does anyone even still use Netflix's DVD option?
Or did they completely kill their own...
What about the fucking flapper?
What's going to happen to the Clapper?
Those people from Boston that have the six channels at once.
What? What's the clapper?
What's the fucking commercial?
You could tape six shows at once.
They're all from Boston.
Oh, oh, the Hopper.
The hopper, yeah.
The clapper, I don't fuck it.
I mean, apparently, I don't know.
anything specifically but doesn't the hopper make you record like the four major networks
so you're only having two like I've heard that it's not that great and there won't be there
won't be any need for any of these companies anymore yeah or or they're gonna have I think
probably what they'll have to do is let you start buying channel call a card yeah it's it's
gonna go out a card it's gonna it's gonna become I want this this and this here's four
bucks three bucks seven bucks you know pick and choose you're out
30 bucks for the month.
It's how it's going to be.
You're just the, the, the, the cable companies are going to become internet providers,
and they're going to, they're going to, what you're going to see is that your cable box is
going to just be built into the television.
And you're just going to pick and choose al-a-carat.
They're, they're not going to be able to sustain the 150 bucks a month because people
are just saying, I don't need this.
Right.
And I don't know if you know anything.
I don't know if you can't say anything.
That's fine.
Is Apple going to, is it Apple doing a TV?
Well, they have an Apple TV box.
Well, I know.
that, but I've always heard rumors of them doing like an actual physical television.
That's the word, but we haven't seen anything.
And we actually were holding our breath when they had their last big meeting because
we thought they were going to announce 4K TV and they didn't.
They announced the watch.
Oh, that sucks.
No, it doesn't suck.
We were happy because now we've got a whole other year without Apple even in the market.
Oh, because you think their TVs are going to have their own prep.
Well, everything with Apple, you have to jump on their bandwagon.
You have to give them a third cut, you know.
And the vig there is nice.
You know, they take a third right off the top.
So you make a buck.
You're taking home 66 cents.
They got 33 in their pocket.
And the government takes the other half.
And they're you and your fucking friend that's...
That's right.
What the fuck we got into this for?
Wendy's is hiring.
I got five cents for Donnie Yee and five cents for me.
Let me ask you something, Donnie Yee.
How come I was looking through...
You had Bruce Lee on there.
I was looking for...
I didn't see any...
We're working on Bruce Lee.
So Bruce Lee's held by the...
the major studios.
Really?
Yeah.
No, run, run, chow?
No, they, so they hold those rights to that library.
Which studio?
Paramount.
Paramount owns a lot of it.
And then the Bruce Lee Family Trust owns a lot of that stuff.
And they're very particular about licensing it.
So we're actually doing some tests with a couple of those films to try and show them what we're going to do.
Because you kind of have to prove to them that you're going to treat their baby well.
And so I think in the next year,
we'll have some of those big Bruce Lee films on the channel.
It's just a matter of they're not as easy to get as some of the other stuff.
No Chuck Norris?
Same thing.
Same thing. Same thing.
I was looking for like, because I thought I'd throw some of that in, but I went looking.
I'm like, no Chuck Norris either.
Yeah, so those guys wear black that early.
Yeah, so some of those bigger names, they're held up because they know those are gems.
You know, they know those are gold.
So wouldn't you want a fucking HDM?
Well, yeah.
Well, not HDM, but 4K?
Yeah, and that's what we're doing.
we're doing some tests to show them what we can do with their properties and say,
look, let us have a go with this because this is what we're going to give you.
But the studios, the analogy is, you know, we're out of Silicon Valley.
We're like a speedboat.
You know, we turn on a dime.
The studios are like an ocean liner.
They don't do anything drop of the hat.
They think about it.
They have a committee.
They go to a meeting.
Some guy says some other thing, you know, you've got to have 20 meetings to get some of these big studios to even talk to you.
And the cool thing is.
is a lot of stuff now people only seeing like the mainstream what's at what's out there everyone sees the same stuff with by seeing some of the old stuff that it came from by the time you do get bruce lear or any of the big ones because you could see those anywhere the some of the stuff that you have is hard to find yeah yeah and it's interesting because basically these guys all are kind of taking the wait and see attitude you know yeah you guys are excited about 4k but we got burned on 3d so we're kind of going to hold back make sure that
The market really sells a lot of these 4K TVs, and then we'll jump in.
And, you know, what's happened is that what happened to the music industry when iTunes came out and they really took over digital distribution, and the music companies, you know, they were fighting tooth and nail, but not let it go that way.
The major studios are still not really embracing the digital era.
So they're still hanging on to their models, you know, give us a million dollar minimum.
guarantee up front, you know, promise to buy 250,000 Blu-rays, you know, sell it as a single
license view, they're kind of stuck in this, you know, 2000 mentality of selling media.
And they've really not embraced the digital market yet.
And so it's kind of education and convincing that this is the future and this is where you
need to be.
So like advertising for podcasts and even what's going on with podcasts.
podcast. Podcasts are selling, but it's still a hard sell.
Yeah.
People don't really know how to handle them.
People don't really, they're still touching them with like, you know, cotton gloves very sensitively, you know.
But a podcast is a new thing.
I could see.
But it's changing.
I mean, I really think, you know, I've been, I've listened to Joe's podcast.
I've listened to you guys.
I listen to Bert's podcast.
Listen to the Corolla's podcast.
And, you know, no agenda.
I'm a big fan of those guys.
And I really think that's changing how radio is being delivered.
If you look at the old days of radio stations and talk radio,
I really think that's what podcasts have taken over.
And I think what's going to happen is the next few years,
you're going to have all of your new vehicles
are going to have internet built into the car.
When that happens and that becomes the norm, boom,
podcasts are at radio's dead.
You might as well kiss your radio.
radio stations goodbye.
Because if I can get in the car and I can go on my screen and I can go, boop-boop, church
of what's happening now.
Let's see.
Who's been on?
Oh, look at that.
Herb Dean.
Boom, I want to listen to it.
In my car radio, you're never going to dial a radio station up again.
You're going to have your list of your favorite podcasts on your car radio.
I can't believe that in sorts.
This is radio.
I mean, this is the bastard cousin to radio.
Absolutely.
In all my dreams.
I like music radio or I liked informative radio.
I didn't like chitter chatter with music.
That always bothered me.
I always tended to go to a station that played six songs in a row.
And when they went to commercial, I knew to go to WBLS,
a black station just to see what the fuck was going on there.
I never dreamt of this because my friend George,
who at the time was on heroin,
he would listen to sports radio tonight.
And when that ran out, he would listen to just fucking people arguing.
And I would go and then go, what the fuck is wrong with you?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Now, we're not on here arguing.
We're having a conversation with whatever genre were happening.
We're not really informative, though.
No, we're not really informative.
No, but I disagree.
I mean, I love listening to the different people come in.
I love it to tell their story.
I love the freedom we have.
I love that we could go any day.
I love that it's not on Monday from 8 to 9.
You know, I love that nothing is made in stone.
Everything we play.
A podcast could be 20 minutes.
I know people do 35-minute podcast, or it could be four hours.
I did Eddie's and then three hours.
I had to go, Eddie, we got to get the fuck out of it.
Right.
Because I don't see myself listen to three hours,
but there's so many different things available now.
When I was a kid, you had WPLJ, you had P-I-X and one other one.
Now I can listen to eight different things if I want.
That's right.
I got something different every fucking day.
Bill Burr on Monday, us on Tuesday, Rogan on Wednesday.
You know, Rogan Wednesday night.
You know, Carolla Thursday when I fucked abroad that lives in Sherman Oaks.
It's a longer drive.
So there's always something.
So I really, but I never thought in all my years I'd be involved in this.
Yeah.
Because I had no appreciation of it.
It wasn't until I called Lee two weeks ago and said to watch her.
already on Stern talking about heroin that I have even seen, I would start.
So I never really knew what was going on.
So when people contact us and say, we're getting better at what we're doing,
I had to go measure to see what the fuck they were talking about.
Because I have no idea.
I don't know a starting point or any point.
Well, if you look at Stern and his success,
his format is exactly what podcasts like this are.
He would just get on the air and just talk to somebody interesting with No Holds Barred.
And he wouldn't stop at the 15s and run a commercial.
He'd go until he was done with that topic.
And then he'd say, okay, let's break for a commercial.
And then he'd do another 45 minutes, you know.
And people really liked that format.
People liked the informality of it, the intimacy of it.
You know, you're there and you're learning something and people are talking real.
You know, it's not a, you know, you're a comedian.
You're used to going in, you know, the old days, you'd go into a radio station and they'd try and set you up, right?
what's your punchline, right?
Give me your punchline.
All right, he's going to be at the comedy center, blah, blah, blah.
The worst.
It's the worst.
It's so disingenuous.
And it kills me.
It destroys a guy like me because when you get there, like, write three of your jokes.
It's like watching comics unleashed.
Yeah.
Every time I watch comics unleashed, it's the only time of the day I want to stab myself right in the fucking forehead.
It is the worst platform for a comedian I have ever seen in my life.
It is so.
And it didn't sell tickets.
I mean, if you look at it now, you look at the success all you guys have had, you know, the Death Squad guys, getting to know the comedians in a real way, that's what sells the tickets, right?
These podcasts sell tickets much better than doing a Friday morning, you know, Zigginsaggy's radio bit, you know, go to the comedy store tonight, you know, that isn't real.
So people don't, they don't buy it, you know, people, they listen to a podcast and they learn to like somebody.
learn you like a Dunkin or you like an Ari and then when you see them come to town boom
you're gonna go see him i like the podcast because i could put what i was about what i'm about
this is what nothing was worse for me than doing the longest yard and seeing people walk out of
the show or getting off the stage and people that were talking to me before the show were not
talking to me anymore and you know i didn't give a fuck at the day at the end of the day but i did
give a fuck because it felt like I was misinterpreting people misinterpreting myself with the
long oh he's one of Adam sandwich buddies he'll he's fat his pants will fall he'll fall on the
floor I'm out there talking about eating pussy and having a threesome with some chicken Miami and my dick
wouldn't get hard and I could just see them like going what the fuck this cuts that off that's right
this lets the people know I always knew I had a chance if we had this type of forum I always knew I had
more of a chance because it'll let people know the backbone, the backstory.
And when you take it to the next level, and that's what I think people appreciate more.
You know, I think that that's what we're doing more with podcasts.
We're on a flight one day, and Rogan looked at him, and he goes, do you have any idea what we're doing?
We're opening ourselves up to people, which is good and bad, depending how you look at it.
I enjoy it.
Yeah.
You know, I have a real problem with this Cosby thing.
but for me
I don't have a problem
what Cosby did
people are human
they're fucking horn devils
and they do creepy shit
I snorted the bra when I was a kid
and if I'd go to your house
I'd ask to go to the bathroom
I'd look behind the door
and if your wife would have a bra
I'd sniff it and my dick would get hard
I wouldn't even whack off
I didn't have hair on my dick
my little dick would just get hard
and I'd get dizzy
and then I'd go in the living room
and every time I went to your house
I sniffed the bra
so I understand what it is to be a fucking nutty person
What bothers me about this Cosby thing
is people's reaction.
You got taken, bitch.
But if you got taken by Cosby,
think how many people are taking you for a fucking ride
because we're gullible as Americans.
We're very gullible and we want to believe.
Like I told Lee the other night,
and I told Lee was going to see Cosby,
and I didn't want to sound like negative Sally.
So I didn't beat up on Cosby.
I just said, what are you going down there for?
And I never understood my answer.
He's just turned part on the album.
It's the same thing.
And I told Lee a couple days ago, I go, I never liked him.
That show he had on NBC, I wasn't around for that.
My head was somewhere else.
I watched three or four episodes years later.
I like Lisa Bonnet.
I never thought much of him.
But when I shut off to Bill Cosby was when I heard his distrust of dirty comedy
and him told him about black people,
and I'd seen his treatment one time in Vale, Colorado,
at a comedy festival when I was in open mic where I saw him do some horrible.
things not rape nobody I just saw how he treated people right he treated people
black comics weird and I just didn't like him I could give a fuck if he fucking died
a guy hit by a car to be strictly honest with you so when this came up was I happy
no I wasn't happy but I'm sad that people got taken some people are really hurt
by this some people are very hurt by this but I look at it all every I work with
these people I see them you know it's like somebody said Gerard Karl Michaels just
because somebody's good at something don't mean they're good
person. Didn't he say something?
Yeah, he said last night, but it's, I think
it's what's happening with sports people
is, as a kid, when you see these people,
you look up to them and you think
they're supposed to be better. Like, everyone thinks Tom
Cruz is amazing, or, like, that level
of stardom, and when they turn out not to be
that, like, that's, it's not
even Bill Cosby. It's Bill Cosby,
the doctor
on the Cosby show that no one wants to believe
did that. And with podcasts,
you probably never have a walkout anymore.
I would imagine.
You can't hide your true self.
These podcasts are two, three hours,
and you guys are doing them a couple days a week.
Brogan's doing three a week.
Corolla's doing four a week.
You can't hide who you are
when you're doing that day in and day out.
Yeah.
And I was just thinking how crazy it was,
like people don't really have conversations anymore.
And a podcast is really at its best
when it's a conversation.
A podcast, when I tap into a conversation,
and I'm a taken, it's a good podcast.
Yeah.
Sometimes I put a podcast that we did on a plane,
and we're laughing, and I'm not taken.
When we're having a conversation, that's when I'm in.
It's like being at the barbershop, and people are talking.
And you're just not talking.
And you're not talking.
It's a beautiful feeling sometimes,
and you're agreeing or disagreeing in your mind,
and it's opening up your mind while you're listening.
And some people wouldn't have the chance.
We had Rudy Sarzo a few weeks ago.
When you were a kid,
if you knew Rudy Sarzo was going to be,
on something you want to listen.
And I would never have had the chance
to meet those kinds of people or even hear
them, hear their opinions on
things. It's a great new thing.
An example
that I told Joey about was you guys had Bruce
Buffer on. And Bruce Buffer's
known as this, you know, the guy that
comes out and does the big intro,
he's a deep guy. And you
sit down with him and you learn all this stuff about
him, you go, that's really interesting. I want to
go read his book.
You know, I tend to get guests.
that I get something from.
When I sat across from here at the Chinese restaurant,
I got something from you.
You inspired me.
You lost money.
You lost the house.
You had a downsize.
But you kept going,
and you took chances.
That's why you're on the show.
And that's why I love doing business with you,
because your story is not,
you did this, and you got a boat,
and you had bitches and freaks were sucking your dick.
No, you lost money.
You lost your ass.
You took a chance with that one fucking video game,
One soul, three, one in this shit,
Who eats a million dollars?
Not the fucking guys, you do.
That's right.
So, and then you had to start all over again.
Now you're on movies.
After all this, you know,
but then again, we have a dear friend Ray Canella
that he believes the same thing.
He worked at the sci-fi network,
and he said he was looking at what his kids were watching.
Yeah.
And they were watching on demand.
This is what I want to watch right now.
He kept going to sci-fi,
and they kept saying, fuck you.
You don't know what they're talking about.
I want to really know what numbers television's kept.
Because it's like anything else, guys.
You know, you open up
whatever his fucking name is.
Lee's Deli. Lees Deli opens up.
He sells great sandwiches, great price.
All of a sudden, the fucking Subway sandwiches
moves up the fucking corner.
You know that there's people that,
whether they pay $7 or $5, they're going to go with $7.
They don't care if they're eating shit.
That's right.
They don't care.
That's why Domino's pizza,
I can never eat two pizzas for $5.
because I know I'm eating shit.
That's right.
I'm eating this fucking flour
that they've invested in Bulgaria.
You know, you're going to shit in blood
and enzymes.
Those little moving white things
are in your shit when you're flush.
They make little bubble noises
as you flush the toilet.
Save me.
Are you that me?
So I know that people do that.
Now, Rouse, the supermarket chain,
it starts making the sandwiches.
They make a fucking good sandwicher of Rouse.
They do?
Yeah, in the deli.
They fucking pack meat on that
motherfucker like it's the 4th of July
because they got, you know, they sell
co-cuts there also. So now
guess what? Lee was making money.
Now that Subway's there,
he's still making money, Lee. He's working
a little harder. That's right. And now
with fucking Rouse, now he's
breaking even and none of those three
fucking morons are making money.
Then to top it off,
you know,
uh,
did you get a, a
flap bread? You know, everybody's
the flat bread. So now who wants a
fucking sandwich? Isn't a flat bread a pizza?
Yeah, it's a fucking pizza.
What the fuck? It's a fucking pizza.
What is all this thing
with flat? I'm sitting at a restaurant. What is a flat bread?
But finally, it's a fucking... It's a
fucking pizza. What did you say? Pizza on a fucking
stickness. Whatever the fuck it is. Like a right
cracker. That's what it looks like. Pizza
on a fucking right cracker or some shit.
But it's all, you know,
nobody's making money.
Who the fuck is watching TV?
I have seven
100 fucking channels.
Let's say five of them, a 50 of them are to order point.
I have 650 channels.
Fox Sports, Fox Sports 1, IFC, Sundance.
Who's watching all these fucking shows?
My kid has six channels.
Nick at night, Nick Toon, Nick Midgets, Nick Reduc.
You got Nick fucking Nick.
You got six fucking Nick channels, right?
Someone make a picture of that, Nick retarders?
So, Midgets?
Who's, I mean, so now people are going,
I know when I'm home at night with my wife, if I'm home, after she puts mercy to bed, we have a 10-minute conversation.
And I know my wife, I know she wants me out of that fucking living room.
And I'm very content with going in the bedroom and putting YouTube on and watching 15 music videos.
In fact, by the third one, I feel like a fucking loser.
I'm like, my life is dying.
Look at me.
I'm watching rock and roll videos or whatever.
But I'd rather do that.
My wife will go to Roku.
on Netflix and watching old series
or breaking bad or not breaking
what's he watching now
the one about the dead people shooting dead people
on AMC walking dead
Walking dead
You know so
So who the fuck is watching TV
What are the real numbers
The real numbers are horrible
Horrible horrible
And you look at things like
Headline News
The reason headline news
Is no longer headline news
Is they were down in like
150,000 people an hour range
They were getting nothing
It was just disappointed
hearing. Nobody's
watching the broadcast stuff anymore.
It's
the market is spoken
and it's just that you know the
cable operators are trying to catch up. They're doing anything
they can to hang on to people.
Not like friends. How many viewers were friends getting
a week? They were getting
a million dollars each an episode. Do we get a million
viewers? A couple of three million views? Oh, they're
more than that. They were probably getting 20 million.
Is there any show today that's getting
20 million viewers? No.
Not even close.
That's too fragmented.
They were scoring a 12 among adults 18 to 49, which is $25 million a week.
There you go.
Oh, and it says Big Bang Theory is doing $20 million a week.
But that's it.
That's one show.
I bet you look at the top 10.
I wonder what sons of anarchy is doing.
Five through 10 are doing a million or what I said that.
Because who the fuck is watching 600 channels?
Nobody.
That's what I don't understand.
Who the hell is watching them?
Not me.
You don't have enough time to watch them all.
No, all these shows.
Who can watch all these fucking channels?
fucking shows every night.
They got 22 channels
dedicated to housewives.
Housewives of this,
housewives of that.
Who the fuck watches that shit?
Then you go on BET.
They got reality show for black.
It's fucking mind-boggling.
They got like $4 million.
Wow.
So that's like a top show right now.
$4 million compared to $20.
So there you fucking have it, people.
There you have it.
It's doomed.
It's over.
You might as well get on this fucking watch the Rokuz.
Watch Kung Fu movies.
you watch horror shows or Ray Canella.
What's Ray Canella charge?
He's got some scared thing.
It's like $199 or something parental.
That's the most people I don't.
Maybe it's only $3 a month, actually.
Three bucks a month.
You can watch unlimited fucking.
But then you could buy just buy rentals.
But an issue you're going to have is, especially with an older cry.
I got my mama Roku last year for Hanukkah.
And I told her I was canceling cable.
And she's like, oh, am I going to have to take over the Roku account?
I was like, what do you mean?
She's like, oh, well, now that you're not doing cable,
am I going to have to pay for that?
And I was like, no, no, no, you're going to keep using Netflix and Amazon
and it just, it's people need to get educated on it.
Right. No, it's a change in how we view television,
and it's going to take some time, but it's where we're going.
It's going to be on demand.
It's going to be al-a-card.
You're going to sit down and you're going to go, I like this, I like this, I like this.
I like horror movies.
Here, Ray.
Here's my three bucks a month.
Give me some horror movies.
I like kung fu movies.
Here you go.
Here's 99 cents.
I want to watch Saturday matinee.
You're going to pick and choose what you want.
You know, if you look at the success of the music business,
when they got it down to where it was 49 cents, 99 cents, or $5.99 for an album,
people didn't care to pirate anymore because it was value, right?
The big thing you're looking at is people aren't afraid to pay something if it's worth it,
as long as it's reasonable.
You go, I want that song.
99 cents, I can own that song forever.
That's fair.
But when it was, you know, pay us $9, $10, that's not right.
People are going to go, well, I'll download it.
But you make it so that it's a fair value, you get something back, you go, you know what, I'll pay you.
The big thing that Louis C.K. did, now Joe's done with his specials, and people have done $5.
I'll give you $5.
That's a fair price to watch your comedy special.
Sure.
Here's five bucks.
Five bucks, too, right?
That's right.
You get to keep it.
Exactly.
And that was the crazy.
That was really crazy watching and say what you want about his specials.
Even if you're not a fan of Louis CK.
His one thing decided the price on online video web specials.
If anyone charges eight bucks, ten bucks, they're like, well, no, that's five.
And Comedy Central had to go, okay, I guess it's five.
Right.
And to compete.
But it's a fair price.
You look at that and you go, that's fair.
It's, it's, we were talking.
As a, as a comic, I always want, people call a long time.
Well, if you do this, we can charge $28 a ticket.
You can make this.
I want to keep it at 20.
When I see a fucking service charge, it burns me out.
Whatever we do, we do for $5.
We always do payloads, $5.
Because I know somebody doesn't want to go to iTunes and spend $8.99.
iTunes works for a lot of people.
It's like you could either go to Starbucks or go to 7-Eleven.
You get the same Brazilian.
fucking bolt. I can't
tell you how good the Brazilian bold
is when it's fresh at 7-11.
You can't go in at night because those fucking
don't know what the fuck they're doing with.
He hates the night work, is it? All the 7-Eleven.
There's one guy... He's emptying his car oil in that
bottle. There's fucking one guy by me
that is a prick. He doesn't
speak English. He just speaks Arabic all
night. He has his buddies in there
with long beards plotting.
When you're fucking come in, I'm telling you.
I know for a fact they're plotting. They're on
the phone and shit.
And there's the other one who, like,
was cleaning the driveway one night
and we almost slipped?
He's nice.
He's nice.
I like, yeah, Ali Baba.
And then he's got his buddies.
The two buddies, but they got a Mexican chick,
Maria.
I usually walk to work with it.
I walk the baby, and she walks in front of me,
and we talk.
They're nice people, but you got to be careful.
The nighttime ones are fuck.
That one where we went to the other night?
Yeah.
Last night, where we stopped, I always stopped.
Yeah.
That dude drives me fucking nuts,
because he don't speak English.
In fucking, where was I?
Portland, Oregon, I wanted to get rolling papers.
And I went through a 7-11, whatever the fuck they have, whatever it's called.
I went in there, and I asked the guy for some rolling papers.
Guys, he didn't know.
And I'm like, rolling papers.
Fucking Portland, rolling papers.
I ended up bought a blunt from him.
I bought a blunt because I didn't want to wait no more.
The next day, there was a fat black lady there.
It was coolish.
They said, where's that little motherfucker that can't speak English?
He goes, oh, please.
Don't say.
They called him everything, but Jesus Christ, yesterday.
She goes, they people were throwing shit at him.
He spoke no English.
He spoke not a word.
He didn't know what rolling papers were.
So, you know, I don't give a fuck.
Everybody's got to work for a living.
I'm not here to bust all buddy's balls.
Let me give some shit.
How do we start talking about that?
I don't know, Lee.
Why are you bothering me for?
Because you eat those edibles, then you give me lollipops.
I love this thing.
Lorne Rosencour.
I love your cocksucker.
Hang in there.
Mike Lavin.
Keith Brown.
Frank Nilsson.
Sun Shaw or John Shaw.
whatever.
BK.
Proud Philip.
Sun Tzu.
Whatever.
It's a good shoutout.
Nathan Hempley.
I don't even think
that's your real name.
What are you laughing?
I think that's his name.
What's his name?
John Shaw.
I didn't know if it was a S.
You know, I didn't know if it was Sunshar.
You never know what these fucking people.
You got double check.
Sometimes I get stoned.
I write their name.
Shit happens.
What do you got playing for the weekend, Lee?
I'm going to Vegas.
Oh, that's right.
And we're taking edibles.
I don't want to hear no crying in Vegas.
We're going deep.
And go under the rock and shit.
That Christmas money you were saving to take it to the dumpling palace.
It's coming to Vegas with you.
We're running deep, cuck, sucker.
Okay.
I signed you up for a blackjack tournament.
Oh, that'd be so fun.
Sure.
But you didn't do that.
Yes, I did.
You know why?
Because I'm thinking of activities for you.
Saturday morning when I wake up and see Talking Lair for breakfast.
Who's better than us?
I love Talking Layer.
Then you decide if you want to fucking stay or go, if you want to stay,
We'll get you a room for another night.
You hang out.
You smoke some big refra.
You got to bring jail to Vegas.
You can't walk around the casino.
If you get bored, you let me know.
I'll send you over.
We have an office in Vegas.
We just developed some new slot machines over there.
What?
Okay.
I'm ready to go.
There you go.
Those computer slots, they're fucking tricky.
They're the ones that fuck.
You got to go to those old school ones in Reno.
You can always pick up 800 before you leave.
Did you ever develop anything gaming-wise?
Any slot machines?
Yeah, so I developed a bunch of machines.
starting in the
2004
we started developing
different slot machines
different card games
yeah
is that
do they sell for a lot
because you know
the casinos are just going to
rake in millions on
well the key is to
they do sell for a lot
so typical slot machines
about 18,000
20,000
but the trick is
you don't sell them
you build a game
that's really good
and then you lease it
so you know
we'll afford
Fortune.
IGT doesn't sell that machine.
If you want a wheel of fortune in your casino,
you give them 15 grand,
and you give them 30% of every dollar it comes in that machine.
Oh, my God.
So they're making money hand over a fist in that machine,
and you've got to kick it back to IGT.
That's crazy.
Wait, can they just put those there as charity leave?
I can't borrow these for a few months.
No, but it's just crazy thinking about how...
It costs a lot of money, man.
Yeah.
You want to make money?
So on a month, what is a casino make on a machine like that, one machine per month?
I'd have to look at the numbers, but I know that like a typical table game will make about a million dollars a year.
Holy shit.
Yeah, they're stealing from us.
That's a lot of fun.
Well, you look at a slot machine.
The slot machine is the worst game in the whole place.
I never understood what people sit there.
I like it because I'm boring.
The slot machine, it's always.
all social dynamics, right?
You pop off a win somewhere around the player and they go, I have a chance to win.
But those machines, on your best day, you're going to put a dollar in, you're going to get
98 cents back.
But on average, you're going to put a dollar and you're going to get 85 cents back.
Or lose it.
Like, I lose it.
Well, but I'm just saying, if you play overtime, if you play for a month straight, you're
going to put in $1,000.
you're going to get $8.50 back.
Wow.
They didn't build all those big buildings by giving out money.
I know, I know.
And then you play like poker ones, which I kind of understand.
I like those.
The ones I don't understand are the ones where you have to match.
And looking at the screen, I don't know if I won.
Play Bet Max, because if you don't bet Max, your odds go even worse.
I know you bet Max, but how does anybody know if you won?
You're just taking their word for it.
Like, there's 18,000 lines and they're just doing it.
And they're like, okay.
The displays there just to appease you.
I know.
It's like, what is even happening?
So you're just like, okay, I guess I won that one.
I'm just not patient enough for Blackjack.
If I start losing, I start betting too much.
It's terrible.
The big thing I saw in 60 minutes was that in Connecticut,
they put those electronic machines for gambling
and people would get more addicted.
Oh, yeah.
It was more addicting than just playing the regular
fucking slot machines and stuff
because of the lights and explosions.
it became like
and how fast they can go.
Yeah, how fast they can.
They can boom, boom, boom, boom,
women will losing their fucking houses up there.
You can burn $100 in two minutes.
Two fucking minutes.
So it's, you know, it's pro and con.
Thank God I don't, I can give a fuck about those flying lights.
I always know that the house don't get, you know,
you're going to leave with some.
I love these people who go to Vegas.
If I beat them for $8.50, whatever.
Whatever.
You're going to pay somewhere.
Whether they're running a fucking charity there.
Somewhere they're going to get you.
My way home are you going to get a flat.
Right.
one out of the casinos and it cost you $7.80.
So you made $70 for the fucking weekend.
How you like me now, cucked sucker?
And they charge so much
for the rooms and the resort fees.
Even if they comp you, they charge you
for the resort fee, which is... Do they really?
Yeah, they get you somewhere.
There's always a fucking buy-the-way.
And they give you two free drinks
and a free thing to the fucking museum.
Listen, I don't want the two free drinks.
No, I'm going to go.
I'm going to go to a museum either. What's that bell?
there was cars beeping
Oh I thought I thought
Wurtz was at the fucking door
You never know
Cogsucker
That's it
What else you want from me Lee
You're not saying nothing tonight
You're all quiet
No I'm not
If you guys ever have a chance to go see Joey on stage
We were
I was at the comedy store
And one guy said
Ew
To like one of the things he said
Or aw or something like that
And it was about like
probably the funniest, like, six minutes of my life.
I had to torture him, and I usually don't say nothing to people.
But I've had it.
I've had it with fake fucking guys.
Like, when I go to the East Coast, I tell him right off the bat.
If somebody is it is I'm getting you thrown out.
This is the East Coast.
You guys all suck dick, and you ate ass with fucking hair on it,
and you went to the beach.
Don't ill me one time.
This guy caught me on a bad fucking night last night at the comedy store.
And I had to tear into him because he's true.
You know, and they said ill because he was probably sitting next to a girl
to impress her.
That's what they usually do that shit for to be cute.
It drives a guy like me nuts.
Because I know when that girl's not there,
you're jerking off on your computer fucking fingers.
And you're fucking with sticky fingers.
You're going back and not even wiping the fucking thing
and your mother's on the thing.
Looking up the map for the church.
It's the truth.
It's the truth.
Those are the same guys, you know.
All last week you were online,
fuck rapist, fuck Bill Kott.
And I'm looking at these guys saying this.
okay did you see I put
fuck rapist who gives a fuck
you know fuck guys who hit women
let me tell you something there's not a guy I don't know
that's looked at his wife at one time
and said I could kill her
could I get away with it
not one guy and women are the same too
they'll fucking hit you in the head with a fucking bottle
you know who the fuck knows what are we talking about
Italy why you make me eat those cheaper juice
I don't know we're going deep next week for the
four with the Jews I'm starting under 16
we're going eight days you got to get a menorah
how many candles
there you go
Eight fucking days.
We've got to get a menorah.
Okay.
Okay.
A Cheba Chu Minora.
A Cheeba Chu Minora.
The little one, 70 milligrams, like tonight.
Nobody gets their feelings hurt.
Nobody's feelings are hurt.
All right.
Now, how did you end up with Kung Fu movies?
Not because your brother's dojo, you're a fan.
Obviously, you have to be a fan.
I was a fan.
Growing up, we watched that stuff just like you did.
And so we got approached by Janelle Smith at Iron Dragon Productions,
who was working on some stuff.
And we sat down and we said, it's time.
We need to reach out.
She had some contacts with Crash Media and Welgo and my brother's got some contacts.
We're actually going to have a bunch of the California amateur stuff coming up.
So we're going to have a bunch of kickboxing and a bunch of Muay events on the channel as well.
But we've been thinking about it for about four years.
And things just kind of came around where we had the contacts.
We had the ability to scan the films.
And so we said, well, let's put the channel out.
And it's been great.
We've gotten a lot of good feedback, and, you know, it brings back memories.
Like you said, you know, as a kid, you went out and you saw it at the, you know, it was the $2 matinee show.
And, you know, it's fun to see that stuff again.
And, you know, just the crazy dialogue and, you know, just the funny storylines.
It's just to see them talk off color.
Like, just to see them talk off key, like the lips are moving, but the lips are really going the other way.
All that used to make me laugh.
When you see the string and the old Marry, you see the string.
and the old martial art ones
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
You see the ropes?
There was one movie
where the guy took a treasure chest
and threw it up a mountain
and then he jumped up on the mountain
and he caught it on top of the mountain.
Shit like that,
the movie theater,
you were giggling your ass off
but it's entertainment.
It's just regular entertainment
for two or three hours.
This Iron Dragon TV is a great fucking idea.
That's why when we spoke
I said, with what's going on
with the little that I know,
I know it's a tremendous idea
because there's a million stones
Is they sick of watching what the fuck they watch?
They put out, when they put on a martial arts move with like a studio martial art film now,
I see right through him anymore.
The worst thing is when the guy's doing martial arts and he's not good at it,
and they're doing different angle cuts to try to hide it.
You can't hide it.
You can't fucking hide.
What's the guy that took his daughter?
He's 68, and he's throwing a little kicks in taken.
You know, even Charles Bronson, God bless his soul.
They got to a point there in Death Wish 3, whether it was.
just watch him start to run.
Then they would go to the bandits and they'd see Charles Bronson tackle him.
And there was a dummy with a fucking wig on and shit.
You know, you just can't.
How fucking old can you be, you know?
What's the point of this situation anyway?
I don't even know what the fuck we're talking about here.
No, but the cool thing is that Iron Dragon TV is part of UltraFix.
So even if, like, someone's like, oh, I don't know if I want martial arts,
you guys have some really cool sports, a lot of nature stuff.
Yeah, we've got documentaries.
We just signed...
They have some really cool concerts.
They have a bunch of cool concerts.
We just signed 50 concerts.
We've got the Who Quadrophenia.
We've got Rolling Stones, Zizi Top.
Got a bunch of great concerts coming on this month.
How much of it is 4K?
Everything on UltraFlix is 4K.
All those concerts are 4K.
That was amazing.
No, yeah, they had a couple cool concerts.
You showed me some bears today?
You're like all that nature stuff?
We signed 35 IMAX films.
So all those, you know, the space films, the pilot films, all that stuff.
It's all in 4K.
That's crazy.
I have a weird question.
You know those curved TVs?
Uh-huh.
Does that do anything?
What is the benefit of the Curve TV?
It's a preference thing.
I mean...
Just to be a jack-off.
Yeah, it's something different.
Okay, so...
Just to be a jack-off.
I'm kind of techie, but I was like, I don't know what the curve would do.
Well, for one thing, it actually distorts the image on the corners.
You would think.
But, you know, but like the Quake game, we used curved mirror.
is to wrap it around you.
Okay.
But curve screen is,
unless you're getting an 80 inch,
you know,
but in a normal situation,
I don't think it's going to add anything.
It's really a personal preference if you like it.
Okay.
It's been an education, man.
I don't know a dick about this,
but I enjoy this kind of talk.
It makes me seem fucking intelligent.
Like, I know what the fuck I'm talking about it.
But my wife loved the stuff you sent her.
Yeah.
All the channels, she goes,
there's a lot of stuff on there.
We could watch for the baby.
A lot of kids stuff.
Yeah, well, I sent you all that stuff for the baby too.
That's where it's going.
I guess that's where it's going, especially for the children.
Like I said, my son doesn't know regular TV.
We never gave them.
So the DVD is going to be obsolete.
It's dead.
Dead.
That's it.
We're adding a feature in January called Digital Walkers.
And all that is, is sometimes you see on the Blu-Rays now that says ultraviolet.
So you'll be able to buy a movie and then watch it on any device whenever you want.
So we'll charge you, you know, $20.
you own the movie forever.
You can watch it on your handheld,
on your computer, on your TV, wherever you want.
And there's no box, no DVD.
It's just digital in the cloud.
I mean, you see how many kids
at the Cuban restaurant had
like the phones with playing a show.
It's just like, it's, that's where it's going.
For kids, you would need it especially.
I'm getting out.
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there's a fucking ton of stuff on there
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I knew some of it
some of it I didn't know what the fuck they were saying
but it's interesting stuff man so
give it a shot what's the price Lee
well there's different prices it's $3.99 499
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You gotta be
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Same thing with Iron Dragon TV.
You're sitting there, the chick, she's giving you a hard time.
Fuck it.
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In the old days, you got to get up, put your shoes on, get the car, get the credit card.
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What are you going again?
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You know what that's kind of like?
You have no fucking idea because you're sitting there watching me thinking about it going, Joey.
How would it feel?
It feels tremendous.
You know what it's better than that?
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And then you've got to be healthy.
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I don't fuck around, but hold on.
Wait, wait.
A midger with a long time?
Sure, a midger with a long time.
I seen one about five years ago.
She wanted 20 an hour an hour.
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You're saying, Joey, you hit me with the same rap every day
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I want you to look good.
I'm no fucking Mel Gibson-Lauru,
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You know why?
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And that me and Dave Foley went to eat.
What did I order off the bat?
Pork fried rice, Dave Foley.
If they fuck the pork fried rice,
so why am I looking at the potato pancakes?
What are we doing here?
Pick up your fork.
Let's pay the fucking,
let's pay Charlie Chan and let's abandon ship.
Give them a fucking free subscription to Iron Dragon TV.
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Who's better than you?
I'm going to watch a Kung movie.
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Hang on, who's the fucking.
Are you going to put that on the website?
Whatever.
You've got to get these people imagination.
I've got to give these fucking people imagination.
They're at home smoking weed, smelling incense.
I'm trying to fill their brain with something, Lee.
You come to Vegas, I don't want no drama.
What is there for drama?
Bring a big bag.
I want you to lift a rock.
You understand me.
Dave Foley, thank you very much for coming on.
Thank you.
Thank you for taking Lee on the set today and showing him what's
so cool.
Look at him now.
Look at the show.
He ate 30 milligrams.
It was not.
It's stress.
You gave me double.
I didn't give you a shot.
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for the podcast slash comedy show at the Ice House with Lee Syatt.
I love you, motherfucker. Stay black. Stay healthy. Day full of you,
you too. All right. Thank you very much.
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rentals
Lace these lyrical dushes in your bushes
Who rock grooves and make moves
With all the mommy
The back of the club
Sipping my witness where you find me
The back of the club
Mac and holds my crew's behind me
Mad question asking
Blunt passing music blasting
But I just can't quit
Because one of these
Onies big he got to creep with
Sleep with keep the epic secret
Why not? Why blow up my spot
Because we both got hot
Now check it
I got more Mac than Craig
And in the bed
Believe me sweetie I got enough to
feed the need. No need to be greedy.
I got mad friends with benzis.
See notes by the layers. True fucking players.
Jump in the rover and come over tell your friends jump in the GF3.
I got the chronic by the trees.
Throw your hands in the air and use a true player.
I love the what you call me big pop fuck.
To the honeies getting money playing niggas like funny.
You got a gun up in your waist, please don't shoot up the place.
Because I see some ladies tonight that should be having my baby, baby,
straight up, honey, really, I'm asking.
Most of these niggas think they be mac in, but they be acting.
Who they attract them with that line, what's your name, what's your sign?
As soon as he buy that wine, I just creep up from behind and ask you what your interests are.
Who you be with, things that make you smile, what numbers to dial.
You're going to be here for a while, I'm going to call my crew, you go call your crew.
We can rendezvous at the ball around two.
Plans to leave throw the keys the little Cs pull the truck up front and roll up the next block so we can steam on the way to the telly
Go fill my belly a T-bone steak cheese X and welsh is great
Conversate for a few cuz in a few we gonna do what we came to do ain't that right boo
Forget the telly we just go to the crib and watch a movie in the jacuzzi smoke else while you do
I love it when you call me pick up
Fuck throw your hands in the hayer if you're a true player I love it when you go me pick a
To the honey's getting money playing niggas like Jamee
You gotta come up in your waist please don't shoot up to place
Because I see some ladies tonight that should be having my baby
Baby, baby
Imagine in beds is giving ends to my friends and it feels stupendous
Tremendous cream fuck a dollar and a dream
Still toke gets strapped with infrared beans
Chopping old smoking line ophthalms
Money holes and clothes all a nigger knows.
A fool is pleasure or whatever.
I had to find the very treasure.
So grams, I had to measure.
However, living better now.
Coochie sweater now.
Drop top BMs.
I'm the man girlfriend.
Honey, check it.
Tell your friends to get with my friend.
We could be friends.
Shit, we can do this every weekend.
That's right.
Is that all right with you?
Yeah.
Keep banging.
Your hands in the air if you're a true player
Till the honey's getting money playing knickers like jumbies
You gotta come up in your waist
Please don't shoot up the place
Because I see some ladies tonight
That should be having my baby
Baby
