The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #300 - Ali Siddiq
Episode Date: July 15, 2015Ali Siddiq, Comedian seen on "This Is Not Happening" , joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio....Thank you for an amazing 300 episodes. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use P...romo code CHURCH for a discount at checkout. NatureBox. Visit naturebox.com/joey for a free trial box. MeUndies.com Go to meundies.com/joey for 20% off. Recorded live on 07/15/2015. Music: I Want You - Marvin GayeTea For One - Led Zeppelin
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Oh shit.
300 motherfucking episodes
July 15th, 2015
The day the devil got buried in sea
Little Marvin Gay
Out of respect
Got a little $7 million fucking check yesterday
Really?
That's what they settled down
I guess it was yesterday, I just read it
Trying to steal his shit
Believe you don't know what fucking happened
It's Marvin Gay, motherfucker
We want to steal something
Steal something from Kanye West
to one of these new breed motherfuckers.
But you've got to have a big pair of balls
to steal from this man.
The church motherfuckers.
Lee Syatt.
My man Ali Sadieke from Houston.
Can you fucking believe it?
300 episodes, Lee Sayat?
I really can't. It's crazy.
That's crazy.
And 100 were Felicious or 400, really,
under my fucking resume of podcasts.
Plus how many of any of you've done.
This is a lot of fun.
Ali, what's happening, baby?
Man, I'm sitting here still groving to this morning.
You know that's my favorite artist in the entire world.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
It's like the trouble.
You know, with the E-Holl, not the E-Hollywood,
the behind the music was on, the remastered about maybe four weeks ago.
I cried, man.
I fucking really cried.
Like, he was, there was something about him, man.
When he wore that little beini, there's a YouTube tape of him.
He's got to be fucked up.
And he's singing this.
But the band is playing, and he's on a couch.
Laying sideways.
Have you seen that?
Oh, my fucking.
fucking God.
And he's singing like, this is me.
I'm just singing from the couch.
Man, this is, he's done one of the coldest things.
Hey, I'm going to make an album for you, but then I'm going to make another album for my girl.
And then you can get the royalty off that one off the, and I'm like, how dope is that that you can make?
I'm going to make a jammer.
I'm going to make a better album for my chick than for my wife who's trying to skim me for money.
It's fucking crazy.
That is fucking crazy.
Gay is like, I think that's one of the
people, when the people ask me what my style
is as a comic, I still
add Marvin Gay in there.
I'm like, yo, I'm like, part this person,
part this person, then. There it is.
Part Marvin Gay. How beautiful.
Look at this shit.
Yeah, man.
He's just laying in like a track suit on the couch.
Yeah, like.
In some basement,
somewhere. It's a basement.
It looks like a pool, like a rec center.
That's not a studio.
But it's, it's,
Morgan gay.
Going to the top.
Top, top.
Dude, some dude with a Rick,
with Rick James Braes.
That's his nephew.
That's a little Rick.
Bam, up top.
Very top.
Oh, man.
Very top.
This is the type of shit that inspires me.
I see this.
Like a guy like him in a fucking basement with a track salon.
It may, man, it's just the,
the mystique of this guy.
Just, hey, I'm practicing.
I do it anywhere with,
and now you're just sitting up like, hey, man.
This is not even the actual performance.
This is what, this is practice.
They're just warming up.
They're just getting their fucking heartbeat going
and getting their timing.
And now they're, you know,
they're about to set it off.
That's how you write music.
You just set it off like that.
I don't know.
I watched Hollywood, whatever,
the fucking behind.
the music. And like he hid
for two years. Isn't he going to like Luxembourg?
Yeah. He went to
somewhere fucking that nobody thinks
are going, did blow, took a
big bag of coke with him, and a hat.
These hat that everybody's wearing
now, thinking they're bad. He took a hat.
He took a hat with him. Some coke and a hat.
Coke and a hat, and he went over there.
And, I mean, I don't know. It's just
it's always fucked with me, too.
When I came from Cuba, that was the first
music I really was turned onto.
And he was one of the biggest names, you know.
Late 60.
I mean, I still remember that song with the chick.
Yeah.
That was big.
My mom was partners on a bar, and they catered to the black people from Harlem,
on the 27th Street.
And it was him and that chick.
I can't remember the name.
So that Tammy Terrell.
Tammy Terrell, one of them.
My mom had a lot of those songs in the jukebox,
and his voice was just, you know, it's a shame.
And when I heard that song that they robbed,
I knew that that was a Marvin Gay song,
but I'm like...
The audacity of Farrell to even say like he, what are you talking about?
You thought it up or you, whatever he, whatever his excuse was, it was ridiculous.
And then for, um, what's his name?
The song.
Dumb fuck.
And to sing it and like, oh, I don't know that this Marvin's gay.
Your father knew it was Marvin Gay.
You should have asked your father who wrote all these themes on you.
Who is this?
It's Marvin Gay.
What are you talking about?
That sounds a little Marvin Gayish there.
I fucking, as soon as I heard,
what I was confused was because everybody samples today.
Yeah.
So I thought they were sampling.
You still pay rights to it.
And I'm cool with that.
Hey, you want to sample music to make yours better?
You know, what's the Velvet Rope?
Janet Jackson.
On one of those songs on that album, she samples war.
You know, Cisco kid.
Fucking brilliant.
Brilliant.
I'm in.
Everybody sampled James Brown.
I don't mind.
Everybody's championed James Brown.
As long as you included in that beat, I hear that bass, I'm cool with it.
But when I heard that, and then I heard there was a lawsuit.
Listen, man, what's that dude that last week stuck up with a Confederate flag?
Kid Rock.
You take Kid Rock.
If I take Kid Rock and sit him down right now, I could quiz Kid Rock on any style of music.
Prince, he will thump your ass.
Didn't Prince do a tour where you could yell out music, $250 a ticket, and he would play it?
That means when you have that ability, you listen to everything at least one time.
Everything.
And you're musically inclined, so you'll pick it up.
You know what, wait a second.
It's like Mike Tyson.
People think Mike Tyson's a fucking Momo.
You get Mike Tyson aside and go, Mike Tyson, who's the best boxer in Cuba?
And he, breaking down.
He will start dropping shit on you that you'll sit there and go, how does this fucking guy know this?
Because this is what they've committed themselves to.
Once you become a true motherfucker like that in that realm, you know, Farrell,
for real.
I had more faith.
I thought that he.
I should have took him off the voice as soon as he did.
Yeah.
Come here.
Come here, sir.
You're in the hat.
I, yeah, you're in the fucking hat that you stole from Marvin Gay, from his fucking.
You even took the idea from Marvin Gaye wearing a cool hat.
Because if you really look at it, Marvin Gay wore the Charles Bronson cat in the 60s.
and look cooler than a fucker without the gold tee and the gold earrings.
Just a fucking Bronson hat.
There's even a picture of him twisting that motherfucker in a white neighborhood.
Are you fucking kidding me?
That's how, I mean, that style they have now, that's his.
He was wearing the hat with the leather jacket and the pea coat.
Yeah.
And the fucking peat coat in the fucking 60s.
That's how cool Marvin Gay was.
You remember the album cover of him with the big silver boots?
He had an album covered of some huge silver boots.
boots he's sitting down and he has
on a little red beanie
and I'm like yo everything about
Marvin Gay was cool because it was him
it was like he was just doing what he felt
it's like man I had the
audacity the mitigated
gall of
Farrell to say that
it came to him that's what
drew you in to the song
when you heard you were like oh this is a Marvin
gay they're doing okay
Robin Think I feel you try to do a little
Marvin Gay rendition then he's like no
It's me. There we go.
Robin Dick. I was so high on drugs.
I didn't know what I was singing.
Bitch. Look at that.
Yeah.
And that's before Bootsie Collins.
Yeah.
That's before Bootsie Collins. Look at those fucking things.
Red bea-on, blue jean, jacket.
Now, what year is this?
Let me look it up.
Look it up.
Because if you know anything about black people,
they look at that picture and said, oh, he's losing it.
No.
Marvin Gay's losing those silver boots.
Only Earth winning fire was busting no shit out in the early sense.
And then Parliament, if you had...
Parliament Funkadelic, that's right.
You had my man, George Clinton, which is...
They are George Clinton, man.
That's the story.
I haven't seen it.
20 years ago, I used to see him.
I saw him like three times of one year in Boulder in the Denver area when I was an open mic here there.
74.
Wow, yeah, 74.
Nobody was wearing those type of boots.
That was way before Kiss.
Yeah.
Right?
Kiss wasn't wearing a live till something.
75 or something like that.
Or 76. I don't know my fucking dates.
Kiss was a good group.
When they first came out, the reason why I listened to Kisses is too sentimental.
My best friend growing up died, and he was a big kiss dude.
And after he died, Kiss died with me.
He was like, you know what I want to hear a kiss no more?
We put that album in his casket and moved that motherfucker on for the next life.
He's up there right now, jumping up and down and listen to that Kish stuff.
I'll eat.
Let me tell you something, man.
I watched the, as soon as you did it, as soon as I already told me, I watched it, the Elisa Dika, the fucking prison riot thing.
And it was funny because I was laughing, but I was laughing at different things than people were laughing about.
You really touched on little things that brought me back to being inside.
Let me ask you something in a real world.
It wasn't that bad being inside.
You had a fun time.
Man, guys like you and me.
That's the thing that I never get a chance to say that I had had.
a good time.
It's like I grew up there.
I learned the, I was 19.
You were 19 when you went in.
Yeah, 19.
And I was 25 when you came out.
25 when I came out.
I was 25 when I went in,
26 when I went in, and 27 and a half, 28.
I did two years all together with everything,
because they reconsidered my sentence.
Right?
Because it was like the first time I got all these letters.
And it was a very, I got like 800 letters sent from New Jersey.
New Jersey is at Crooked States.
But I look at my time now, man, and I got to tell you something, even in Diagnostic,
where I always tell people, I always, I told Burke Crash, I go, listen,
if you think black people talking movie theaters, don't go to Diagnostics.
Don't go to Diagnostics.
Because it's all night long.
It's all my brothers are yelling.
And from the sixth floor, they'll yell down, Little Negg, Little Neck, what's going on,
baby boy, nothing, Big Gee, just doing our thing, what's going on with that?
And they're having a conversation at 2.30 in the morning.
I'm like, you're not even in the room.
And it's fucking magnifying in your little cell.
It even magnifies more.
I remember when I got sentenced.
And I can't.
My heart goes out to you because you got sentenced in fucking Texas.
That means that shit was hot.
Super hot.
Super hot.
There ain't no.
Do they have AC in jails?
Fuck, AC.
What AC?
You get a little fan for $25.
Your family got to put together $10.
And they send you like a $22 fan.
They charge you like,
$80.
They jacked the price up.
It's like a $9.95 fan.
They charge you $24.95,
and you have to buy it directly from the prison.
They have a black and white little TV.
You know, $49.95 with the antenna with three channels.
You got a fucking...
You pick up the slack.
But did you guys realize you were having a good time when you were there?
Or is it like after being out 10 years?
Because if I was brought to jail today, I would have a meltdown.
Like if someone told me I was going to jail, I would have a meltdown.
It's segments.
of good times. It's not like
a total country club, but then
you'll look back and you would think,
oh man, that was an, that was our right
day that I had today. I had our
right day. You know, I had a water fight
in prison
with another pod.
We was going to necessity.
And I don't know what happened.
One guy threw some water, and they was
like, oh, that's what you're doing?
So everybody got bags
of water and buckets and
all type of stuff. So when they would come back in
same part. We would throw water at them. They would throw water at us and the officers couldn't do
anything about it because they had to let us out to go get closed. So it was like that was a time and
then we played flag football one time and, you know, then it was some things that you, that you
bond with a couple of people. And then you have, you say, okay, that was a good time. Like I remember
my guy got caught masturbating and, and that was, that was hilarious because the lady came in.
We saw him run up to his cell, but we didn't know what he was going for. And then all of a sudden
and she's doing the count, and she's all out, hey, put that up, and we just, we're dying.
It's like, because we know what he was doing.
He was like, so, you know, we joke about that for an hour, that, you know, some time passed.
They don't let you masturbate in prison?
Not on the female officers.
You can't do it where they can see you, but it was like he had on some shades,
and it's like his prison jacket with nothing else on but his boots.
And he was like, ah, it was hysterical.
When I was arrested in Seattle, I was in there for a month.
And at the time I was dating a fucking dirty whore.
I couldn't even think of being away from a...
You know those dirty whores that you rip their pants off and fuck them?
Yeah.
You fuck them with a yeast infection.
You don't give a fuck, Jack.
You just tear that ass up.
And I went to prison and I was...
Because I was fucking her every day.
So here I am locked up.
And I would go in the shower, take an hour shower, jerk off in there,
shave, come back, go under the blankets, bang one out in there.
And I had this little picture of...
Pamela Anderson and all it was like from her waist down like they had cut off her arms somebody had jerked off on her arms and like a mid torso I had like this arm here and this side and her little pussy which was beat to death from people looking at it and I was just jerking off looking at her like her feet and I would put the blanket over my head and just jerk off under the blanket like a savage and one day somebody said Joey stop it
and I thought I was getting away with it and you're demented perverted mind
it's mine. You really think they're not watching you or that people don't see your hand moving up
and down, but you're banging one out. But wouldn't it be bad if they didn't let anybody do that?
No, they're not. It's not that it's banned. They want you to do it on your own time, like in your own
space. But I've seen that before in like some like prison shows. Like some places just don't let you do
it at all. And like I feel like, I feel like, people would be little. You could jerk off next to
Paula when she's sleeping and she wouldn't know. You think so? I used to do it all the time. After they
pass out. You still want to shoot a load, but that passed
out. And you just do a cappuccino
in your hand, because your whole body don't move.
Just your wrist and your little hand moves. You know what I'm saying?
You got to be prison savvy.
Yeah, you got to be prison savvy.
I've never jerked off next to anybody.
That's fucked up.
That's fucked up, Joe.
Fuck yeah. You got to jerk off next to Mama one time.
You got to be real.
You know, you got to get all this.
It's just a little hand.
I had a buddy once who told me that he used to have to
masturbate in the bathroom.
from the smartphones came on. He's like, I go and I do it in the bathroom from my phone.
I do it into the toilet. I'm like, that sounds terrible having to do that.
Where do you do it?
When she's there, I don't. But then when she doesn't, when she's not in my house, I don't have to.
You do a living room in the open, but the shades open?
No, I do in my bedroom.
Okay. But she doesn't live there.
Like candles?
Sometimes. I mean, if the mood strikes, I could.
Put on a little Marvin game.
You know, it's fun, but I want you to describe.
for them the first 30 days after you get sentenced because it's not that it's not fun it's that you're
at different places but you have all the doubts in your hair once you get settled it becomes something
else but if i see him on tuesday and he says to me baby boy say a prayer for me i'm going to
get sentenced on thursday i got this i got this and all someone like i'll see you Saturday we're
gonna do that thing right yeah i see you said no worry god's gonna keep you out when he goes in on
Thursday gets sentenced. That's it. Sometimes if you got a good attorney, they can keep you out for six
hours while you get your shit together. But nine out of ten, once he sentences you, that's it.
So you've got all this stuff left. And then when you go in that, now you have all this doubt.
I mean, this poor guy was 19 years old. I was 25. In the back of your mind, what are you thinking?
A lot of doubt. A lot of doubt. You think that you tough enough. You hope that you tough enough.
but you have to rely on things that people taught you
or people said to you that were in the county
with you that had been down before
and I relied on my lot
everything that my uncle told me
my uncle Alfred and my uncle Mac
everything they told me I did
and it was like it went like clockwork
it went just like they said it's like yo
when you get in there don't go straight to your sale
go in your cell put your stuff down
come back out close the door
to your sale and stay in the day room.
Because if you don't do that, people are going to think you're not tough.
They're going to think they can take advantage of you.
So had this whole mentality of, you know, I do whatever to defend myself.
You know, and you say you've got to get away from what you think is civilized in the world.
Because that's what we call it, the world.
You know, once you inside, everything else is the world.
This is your new place is being inside this cell, being inside this block, inside this prison.
and whatever you think is savage, it's probably the norm here.
You know, like, now I remember getting in a fight and I couldn't leave it like that.
I knocked the dude out, and then I filled the mop bucket up,
and I went up a flight of steps, and I dropped the mop bucket down on him.
You know, like a savage animal, and my shirt is off, and I'm telling the office,
if y'all come in here, it's about, I'm about that too.
and I really wasn't about that
because when they came in
they came indifferent it's like eight of them
and they beat you up real bad
but it's like the mentality
was for everybody else
to let it be known
if you cross me
this is why I'm going with it
you know so it's hard to
it's hard to even look at a fight
as a fight in there
I'm trying to get you as close to death
as I can get you
you know without killing you to catch a free world case
you know but
if I could get you close to depth for you to think about it and your friends to think about it and your comrades and whoever else with you because there's some other people that I try to oh he from my neighborhood so I want to defend him but you don't even know this guy you don't know what he did or whatever but I got to stop that too you know it's not just a it's not just about this person in front of you like I remember this guy man he allowed this dude to do something to him and I say hey man that's going to be bad if you don't respond to that.
And dude's like, no, I think it'll be okay.
Then the next time I see him, he's sitting next to the pisser in the day room.
Sitting right next to the piss in the day room.
And people coming peeing while he's sitting there.
He has no respect.
He's reduced to nothing because you allow somebody to get away with something in there.
And I can't let you get away with an inch, not an inch, not even nothing.
Like if you, it's like you're savvy.
bitch, because you have to maintain, hey, man, if you cross me, it's something bad going to happen to you.
And I'm talking about now, like ASAP.
It's not going to happen tomorrow.
It's going to happen right now.
How long it took you to get into that mentality?
Probably two weeks.
Two weeks.
Because I was sentenced and I was getting ready to go to the, to the president.
I was in the county.
And this spot called 10B3.
And everybody, 10B3 was like a place that you heard about.
about in the streets.
You in the streets, you're hustling.
People are like, yeah, I was on the 10th floor.
You know, I was in 10B3, 10A, 2.
These are all corner tanks.
So it's like you come in the corner tank.
It's like this room having another part around the corner that the officers can't see that you're in.
So you're in more danger in a corner tank.
So I remember being in processing.
I'm thinking, okay, they already said I'm going to the 10th floor.
And I'm just sitting there like, just don't let it be a corner tank.
Just don't let it be a corner tank.
and the man gets right to me and says 10b3.
I was like, oh, Lord of mercy.
So I get to 10b3, and I'm sitting in, like, the little vestibor area,
and I'm holding a sandwich.
They give you a sandwich with a dot of peanut butter in the middle
because you're coming from processing.
And I'm sitting in, some dudes come up to the bars,
and like, yeah, that's him right there.
And I'm like, yo, what part of the game is this?
He was like, yo, that's him.
That's the one who slapped my sister.
I'm like, I don't even know his sister.
never even slapped a woman and then I went back to what my uncle Alfred said people are going to try
to get pumped up to see where you at you respond to that with savage force and I was like then
my mind clicked in yeah I'm the one that slapped your sister and when I get in there I'm gonna try
to murder you hopefully you hopefully you already sentenced and dudes is like you know what's wrong with this dude
like yo man I'm not I'm too small to allow somebody to think they can do something.
to me. You know, that's my whole thing. I'm way too small for a person to think that you got any
type of inch with me. And it was just getting into this, and you, and it's like coming from war
when you get back in the streets. Now, I have to try to go down, take it down a notch. Right, right.
I remember that. Yeah, yeah. Take it down like several notches. Because I know,
for six years, I'm capable of murdering anybody.
Even though I was a non-violent offender when I came in here,
I came in there for drugs.
But I'm able to murder anybody in cold blood and just sit there.
And just sit there like, yo, whatever,
because you did something to me.
Now, when you get on the streets,
you have to slowly try to get adapted to,
disrespect and I wasn't accustomed to that.
And then you don't get, if somebody disrespect you
is, it's intentional.
You know, it's intentional to try to see
what you are. And I went through that process maybe a couple of times
because I went to different prisons.
You know, I was on Bill Clemens, I was on Darrington unit,
and I remember that when they sent me to Torres, I was 21,
I was considered an older guy, I was considered a vet.
So they was like, well, we need some vets to kind of calm down these youngsters and give them away.
So they sent me and some other vets there.
And I remember this dude came up to the processing fence.
He was like, yo, yo, little man, when you come out here, we're going to have some words.
And I just looked at him.
Never said a word to him.
Just looked at him.
Because I knew when I got on the other side of his fence, I was going to seek him out.
No matter where they put me on this prison, I was going to seek him out and have a conversation with him.
like yo and I did and I told him hey if you ever speak out of turn to me again you won't make it home to see your people
and I said that's the end our conversation and I left and we never had words we never had words again
I'm like yo because I'm telling you I'll paralyze you and it's it was an easy thing for me I'll take off both pair of my socks
put a can good in my socks and I just hit you in the head
that you right in top of your head several times.
I take the top of a tuna fish can
and I bend it and I're shaping and I bend it
and then I come stab you in your throat with it
with no problem because I feel that's what you're going to do to me.
So prison is a
even though you have fun once you respect it
once you settle in
but it's a process where people think that they can haze you
and you have to stop that haze in ASAP,
or you're going to be somebody's stepping stool, so to speak.
No, you become a lot of people stepping stool.
People are taking.
That's just one.
They'll just take it from you.
People take stuff out your hand, take stuff from you.
Man, I used to watch it, and it used to irritate me.
And I talked to them dudes, hey, how can you let somebody?
Let me give you a tip.
Do you have a hot pot?
They were like, yeah, take that hot pot, boil you some bit.
It was like this stuff like common
But it was like common and bleach mix
Get that the hot as you can get it
Then you put something else in there
Some candy or something
You put some jolly ranches
You put anything else and you want in there that stick
And you take that hot pot
And you throw that stuff in its face
And then you start beating them with the hot pot
And then you tell me how disrespect
Goes after that
You know, just you got to do
Something to get people off you man
And it's like well I'm not
equip, you know, look,
let me put you in a mind frame.
Somebody's raping your daughter.
What's you going to do?
Just had that in your brain
and go from there.
And I guarantee you
that you won't be disrespected
in a minute. I guarantee it.
Now, I mean, first of all,
your uncle's like fucking Sun Tzu.
All right? That motherfucker should write a book
for people going in. He should.
Zunzu. But
a lot of what Ali is saying applies to life.
In my world, I came from immigrant mentality,
and my mom had stabbed the motherfucking Cuba who raped her little sister.
My mom got out of Cuba, they helped to get out, came to the States,
went back to Cuba with an alias,
and then had me and my sister,
and then came back here and then kept the fucking alias.
But my mother's thing was no, no nothing.
Like, there's no mercy in this life.
Like, as soon as they disrespect you, you go for it.
When I was a little kid, I mean, my mom used to have hand signals at the park.
This meant knock them out, punch them in the face, you know.
My mom was old school like that.
I was raised like that.
Once I got on drugs throughout the years, I mean, don't get me wrong.
You don't get the first base around me.
I always stop a motherfucker and talk to them.
Maybe some people are very confused, especially when you get to cities like this.
Yes.
People very confused when they get about.
four around, when they get around four people.
And they don't know that in my world, four people are in shit,
because I'll hit you with a fucking bottle, it'll blow up.
And those other four motherfuckers will piss their pants.
I've seen it a thousand times.
Once the shit goes, pop-pap!
And the motherfucker goes, ah!
His little friends will piss their pants.
And now you look at them, and they melt.
They'll give you their fucking wallet.
They just give it to you.
Here, man, we don't know this motherfucker.
Fuck him.
We hate them, too.
It's amazing how quick the time.
tie turns. And I'm from that mentality. That's why people didn't fuck with me at the comedy store
for a long time. Some people don't book me because I'm old school. I come do a job, you pay me.
That's it. There's no, you know what I'm saying? I don't leave without my fucking check.
There's a lot of things. Lee and I were talking about this, that, you know, what's Tony say?
You have to set your marker and enforce it. And that just goes to street life. That goes,
And it's really weird when I got off the Coke eight years ago.
It changed my career.
It changed me as a human being because I always had that fear that I was going to go to prison
if I stabbed you in the fucking head and I wouldn't be able to do my cocaine.
That little addiction held me back at times.
Not that I would think about it, but somewhere in my psyche.
I remember when I got off Coke, like the first three months,
I just went and talked to people and straighten them out.
And they were like, what are you talking about?
Let me tell you what I'm talking about, about eight months ago, one Friday night.
You made a remark as I was getting the car.
You didn't think I heard it.
I just drove away because I know better.
You're a piece of shit.
You ever say something like that again?
I will fucking hit you with a soul machine.
They would look at me, dog, like they didn't know what the fuck I was talking.
But my life changed because that's how I was raised.
I was raised like that.
I didn't have, you know, I went to, in diagnostic, it was a little real in diagnostic.
The 10 days I was in diagnostic, motherfuckers were getting nauseous.
out, people putting fingers and people's foods.
That was a fucking jungle there.
That was a jungle.
Once I got the way I was going, I had a beef with a biker dude.
He just thought he was cute around his friends, but I caught him by the laundry machine one day by himself.
The laundry room was next to the HIV ward.
The HIV ward was brand new when I got locked up.
They didn't know.
Rock Hudson declared HIV in 85.
I got locked up in 88.
They just built these motherfuckers and whole new.
wing, brand new microwave ovens, refrigerators, and you weren't allowed in there, you know what,
they were human beings.
So I would go in there and eat with them, and I'd had my drugs in there, and I'd had my
betting slips in there because they never, the cops would even go in there.
They were scared to touch anything.
So everybody would hide shit in there.
It was amazing.
I sat in there one night and I caught that little motorcycle motherfucker going into that laundry
and with a bucket of clothes.
The first thing I did to them was I stole the American cheese thing from the kitchen,
and I put a piece of shit in there.
I took a piece of shit and I put it right in there.
I took the shit in the toilet and I took it out
and I took the American cheese flag that was in the shit
and the flag and I stuck it in the shit
and I put in his drawer.
The dude was always cute around his little fucking biker dudes
and I play with him that way.
We were both in the same unit because I worked in the kitchen.
I was a stock clerk and he worked in the kitchen.
He was a cook or something like that.
But when he was around the black dudes in the kitchen,
he wouldn't say much because deep down the side,
he hated black dudes, he hated Spanish people.
when he was with his boys of long hair
oh you should have seen him out there without his jacket on and shit
and I just made him
I go I'm going to make an example of this motherfucker
this motherfucker has no idea what I'm going to do to him
and after I took the shit he knew it was me
but he didn't have the balls to come up to me in that kitchen ward
so he was going to get me when he was around his little buddies
in the daytime but I caught him that Sunday night
while he was doing laundry I'll eat
and I got him by his hair that's why I don't want to
I don't give a fuck what concert you're going to see or what revolution you want to go.
There's a lot of things real motherfuckers don't do it.
They don't have long hair, don't put earrings on with a loop.
No earrings in your nose because a motherfucker like Ali or rip that fucking earring out of your nose.
You know, you think you're cute at Starbucks.
You ain't going to be no cute with that hook fucking nose no more.
All right?
They'll rip it right on.
And you don't wear fucking flip-lops because I will step on that fucking toe.
I'll break that big fucking toe and the bone that it's attached to before you even get up off your fucking
foot. I will step on that
motherfucking brand. And you have no idea
what it feels. You ever stub your toe
in the middle of the night? Think of that 300
times when I break the socket with my
fucking heel. So you want to keep being
cute with your fucking sandals. That's why I don't
wear sandals. I leave with Adidas
the fucking hard shell. I
sleep with these motherfuckers. You understand
me? Beatis. Shit.
Old school. We're ready
for the fucking revolution. You always
got to have one step ready for the revolution.
I don't trust sandals.
man.
No, no, no, no.
When you run, you fucking one flies off,
and now you're like fucking, you know.
Even if you get in the fight
and one come off, you lost.
And Joey karate, listen, that's great.
You ever get kicked with a foot, it hurts.
You get kicked with an Adidas size 13.
That hurts a lot fucking more.
It was, you got me all fired up
because I remember the mentality
I went in there with,
and I went in that with that same mentality.
Because in my world, at that age,
I thought I was going to end up there anyway.
I thought that was going to be
my final stop. So I was waiting for a motherfucker that throw a fastball at me. And when I got in,
I teamed up, when I got to my destination, I teamed up with an old mobster that was selling
gambling things on Monday night football. And he said, I can't get to the blacks and the Latinos.
I said, well, I speak Spanish, and I'm half black. I'm Cuban. It's the same shit. And guess what?
He went from selling one card on Mondays to three cards. They said he was running the football pool.
the football pool, but I got them running on everything.
You know, in prison, you get motherfuckers gambling.
If you don't, if you build it, they'll come.
If you build it, they'll come.
They'll come.
And Uncle Joe, that's Uncle Joey's specialty
at building bookie operations.
You give me a couple days, I'll get some dice in this motherfucker.
We'll put, and that, listen.
And I always try to say, I have always been,
I'm racially incensitive,
but my heroes, you know,
my heroes, Julia serving and Richard Pryor,
straight through, combined.
That's it.
That's it.
Julius Irving in my world.
There's not a lot of people who would say.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Julius Irvin.
No.
Dr. Jay, nobody knows.
Nobody knows.
How does anybody just skip him over when they say, oh, he's, Jordan was better than him.
No, Jordan was more marketed than him.
But how is he better than Julius Irvin, man?
Julius Irving got all his moves.
Dr. Jay got all his moves.
I mean, Jordan got all his moves from.
Dr. Jay, besides one, he couldn't do, he can never do the move when he went behind the rim
on the Lakers.
He did this on the Lakers.
Julius serving.
Yes, he did.
All his best moves were against the Lakers.
The three moves.
The Dunkin, Philly.
That was on Cooper.
That was on Cooper.
I was at the game getting one point in Philadelphia.
I was a college skis, snort and Coke, Robin jewelry stores, and I was down at Glassboro State,
and if they scored 125 points to sixes, you got a free hamburger.
Man, if they scored 125 points on the way out,
you get your ticket stub to a hamburger joint.
They gave you a free hamburger,
and we drove down there getting a point and a half.
I remember driving now and going, this ain't right.
They got Moses Malone.
You know that's a friend of mine.
Who's that?
Moses Malone's a good friend of mine.
You send them my love.
You tell Moses Malone, when he played for the Houston Rockets,
in 1978, 79, I took a bus from Northburg and New Jersey.
You had it to go all the way to New York City and switch at Porta Tharty,
and I went all the way to Piscataway.
And I tell people this all the time, and I'm going to get smacked in the mouth for saying this, but I'm going to come out.
If Moses Malone had played against Shaq, he would have taken Shaq and thrown him through the fucking rim.
Moses Malone, when he played for Houston, check his numbers, Lee.
It was 30 points a game and 24 rebounds a game.
Listen, guys.
First place straight out of high school.
24 rebounds a game out of high school.
They got discovered that five-star basketball can.
He was from Tallahassee.
No, that's Daryl Dawkins.
It's Daryl Dawkins.
That's Darl Dawkins.
Moses Malone.
We just lost a good friend.
We were at the funeral together.
Moses Malone.
Oh, my goodness, man.
But Dr. J.
Dr. J.
No, no, no.
Lebinga.
I still remember coming home and getting a red, white, and blue ball.
This is what America doesn't remember.
This is what basketball.
And I put the red, white, and blue ball between my legs.
I was too fat.
to have a notch number 32, Jersey.
Okay?
This one, he was number 32.
And him, Super John Williamson,
uh,
uh,
the big cheeseburger that went up,
Billy Polts,
he went out to play for San Antonio.
And I used to watch Julius Irving.
And I,
once Julius Irving,
Julius Irving and Richard Pry got a hold on me at the same time.
When I came from Cuba with James Brown,
once Julius Irving got,
Julius Irving added the class to my life.
I would have still been a runaway fucking savage like Moses Malone.
Because in the reality, Moses Malone is just a runaway savage.
Savage highlights if you want to watch it.
Go.
Moses Malone is just a runaway savage.
The best is when he played for the sixes and they got into a fight with Mark Ivoroni.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit.
And he just grabbed Mark Iveroni and whispered something in his ear.
Like, pick up your arm again and I'll break that motherfucker.
And Ivoronies like, I got no beef with nobody.
I love Americans.
Moses Malone, man.
This dude, I remember he had a brown Rose Royce with a tan top.
And it's like this guy.
It's like, look at Julius right there with him.
Oh, my God.
Look at number six right there with him.
Yeah.
Man, this, oh, man.
You know, he's the originator.
Like, people who don't even know.
They wear Air Force ones.
They don't know this who actually wore him.
Like, what I know, Kareem brought the Sheltos out.
You know, he played in Shale Toes, but that's who played in Air Force Warms.
Moses Malone.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, that's Moses.
And that's a team right there, those Celtics, Jack.
Look at that team right there.
Put that back.
Oh, look, that's right there right in front of you.
Same motherfuckers.
Look at that team.
Moses Malone.
Look at that pot-smoking motherfucker.
What's his thing?
The chief, Robert Parrish.
They found him with a pound away.
Get that out of here.
Oh, my God.
Look how huge is.
Look at Moses.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
But you see that little guy in the bass.
was Gus Williams. That was Gus Williams. He just coasted by. The little wizard and he had a brother. What was his name? Williams had a brother too. But the Seattle Seahawks had a dude name downtown Freddie Brown. Downtown Freddie Brown.
Oh shit. Lee, you have no idea. And he was 611 Lee. He is? He was 611 and nobody knows that he created the dude from Africa. He took him under his wing and taught him all this shit. When he came to Houston. When he came to Houston in the summers. He caught a cab. He
caught a cab to Houston
because he said it was too cold where he was
playing and he came there to play soccer and
they saw him on the on the soccer
field and it was like yo what is he doing
out there what is what is the lodgeman doing out there
and Moses man
when Moses took him on his wing and gave him
everything taught him every move
that he had
and man Moses Malone
man and then he's just a Moses a good
dude man
yo yo yo you'll leave man
uh Tony gone brother
Good.
Yeah, because we have...
Where does he live?
He lives in Houston, man.
We had a friend named Anthony Colbert, you know, that...
I think Anthony Colbert merged us together because he was the same...
He did the same thing when...
That was the first person Moses met when he got to Houston, and he was from Oklahoma.
Tony's from Oklahoma.
So he just stuck with Moe the whole time and took more around.
And him and Tony was...
They've been friends ever since.
He went to his funeral in Oklahoma.
and he went to his memorial service in Houston.
And the same thing that Anthony Colbert did for me.
When I first started doing comedy, you know you always need somebody to try to help you.
And that was the first person who, you know, got me headshots.
If I needed to travel somewhere, he would loan me the money because he knew I would just give it back to him.
And he just really helped my career as just a person.
Even when I used to get, you know, struggling through something, I was going in his office and be going off and he would just sit there and listen.
And then as soon as he finished, he'd give me a story that has nothing to do with what I just finished talking about.
But it was like, yeah, you know, and then he told me this story.
He said, he asked Moses one time, could he play ball with him?
And Moses told him no.
He said, hey, man, we're friends.
Why you can, you know, why you won't play basketball?
He said, because all you can do is hurt my game.
You know, you can't do anything for my game, so I won't play you.
You know, I only play people who could elevate my game.
And then that taught me only be around comics who can elevate your game.
Always.
You know, on whatever aspect.
Just be around some people who have something else to offer than what you have.
Don't hang with the other guys.
You have to elevate.
And I took a lot from Tony.
And being at the funeral and me and Moses was both there.
and we was like,
Moses's like,
yo man,
we're going to miss him.
And these are two different ends
of the spectrum,
two different years of people
who he meant a lot to.
You know,
so that's how me and Moses
are super connected
and he's just a good person.
He got into a fight one time,
a big argument,
not a,
let me not call it a fight,
a big argument at the comedy club
where I was performing.
He came to see me
and him and his lady
got into an argument in the front.
And I say,
yo,
who arguing in my show?
And I look up as Moses.
He was like,
Brother, my baby, brother.
You're like, man.
Julius serving.
You see Moses, you say, I met the biggest Cuban fan ever.
He took a bus three hours, got in trouble, got punished,
because we didn't get back until two in the morning.
The bus stopped in New York and sat there for an hour.
Then it took you over the fucking over-the-tong.
But I went to see Moses when he was a Houston rocket.
And when I found out he became a six-old, I knew him my heart.
I'm the dog.
I could lie to you about a lot of shit.
I knew him my heart.
go they're going to win the championship it's just too much that's all they needed they needed
they got rid of uh the guy that shot with the one arm george will be Guinness yeah McGinnis
McGinnis uh they also had what's his name's father joe jelly bean brian jelly bean
shit what year this is 82 83 yeah when they won they got a they got Moses in 83 and they
immediately won in fact they swept that's how decidedly I was not wrong
I knew that they would fucking
Fofo Foh
Foh
That was the big thing
You want the roster?
Yeah
J.J. Anderson
Maurice Cheeks
Earl Kirsten
Franklin Edwards
Julius Irving
Mark Ivoroni
Clemonds Johnson
Reggie Johnson
Bobby Jones
Moses Malone
Mark McNamara
Clint Richardson
Ruskeone and Andrew
Tony
And all they needed was
Irvin
Cheeks
And Moses.
Andrew Tony could shoot the ball in the dark.
You know that?
Andrew Tony could shoot the ball in the fucking dark.
You have no idea how big.
And then they got it.
I mean, they were a great team.
I was with the Sixers when they had Doug Collins,
when they fought against Foco down in Florida from Tallahassee,
not Moses, Daryl, Darrell Dawkins.
Darrow Dawkins and Maurice Lucas fought in the middle of the fucking thing.
Chocolate done.
I'm in the eighth grade cheering for five.
There was a dude behind my house, Jimmy DeMarco, Jimmy De Sumpton,
and he got hitting the head with a brick, and all of a sudden he became a psychic.
You'd ask him, who's going to win the game tonight?
I had like 50 bucks, and I asked him, like, who's going to win the series?
There's just, hmm, the Sixers, four to two, four games to two.
I'm like, fucking I'm betting.
I bet like, like, two hundred dollars.
I was like in their fucking eighth grade.
I was half retarded.
When the fucking Sixers lost, I went over there, and I go, Jimmy, what the fuck?
The Six is lost.
He goes, my psychic ability was.
off that day.
He goes, no, no, he goes,
I meant to say the wrong,
because Portland beat them four to two.
But Julius Irving
against the Portland Trailblazers
had a slam dunk
in the face of Bill Walton.
When Julius Irving,
when it came to realization,
he was not,
do you remember this?
When he came to the real,
he had two great slam dunks
against the Portland Trailblazers,
but when Julius Irving came
to the realization,
put it on,
Julius Irving's top 10
dunks, he came to the
realization,
that he was going to lose to the Portland Trailblazers.
He took the ball three quarters down the court league,
and he slammed it so hard in Bill Wharton's face.
I'm talking about in his fucking face
that Bill Walton was calling for an offensive fucking foul.
It was horrid.
All right, right there, and you hear the music is tremendous to this.
If there's the same one.
All right, watch this fucking dunk right here.
Okay, this is nothing.
All right, this is.
This is just a regular one.
They just getting warmed up.
This is tremendous.
Against the Lakers.
Oh, shit.
Lee,
watch this.
Learn something.
All green.
Look at them, Lee.
Look at them.
Underneath.
And against a tremendous team.
What this one, Lee?
Here we go.
Awah.
Bayia.
Why you jump in?
Why you even bought it?
Look at this one, Lee.
Look at this one, Lee.
Again against the Lakers.
Boom.
Oh, my God.
Look at this one, Lee.
Against the Lakers.
Look how high.
Oh.
Oh, bam.
That's better than the Jordan one.
Watch this one.
Boom.
That one's amends a men's one.
Now they're going to throw the heaters at you.
All right.
This is a good one.
The self is.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
And that's Cowan, dude.
That ain't no fucking walk in the park.
That dude was six for eight Cowens.
Lee, and he was the center.
Look at him.
Look at this one.
Look how long he is.
All right.
Look at this one, Lee.
Here we go, Lee.
This is the first one.
Oh, look at this one.
Walton.
Walton.
Look at Walton coming in.
Watch Walton coming and watch this, Lee.
Oh, my.
Look him to call for offensive foul.
See, he's calling for an offensive foul.
Look at against Bobby Gross.
Boom.
Are you fucking kidding me, Lee?
They don't, look at this.
You're at home at your mother's house.
Your head would fucking explode.
And here's the one.
Here's the one.
Getting the three-point.
Getting the point and a half, Lee.
Rocking the crane.
Rocking the cradle, rocking the cradle.
And he had nobody to watch.
He was just.
It's still amazing.
Lee, nothing but class.
You understand me?
Nothing but fucking class, Julius Servant.
Listen, guys, I don't have no reason to lie to nobody.
From 80 to 84, the only thing that kept me alive was Julius Servant.
I would go to the games.
I would yell.
I would go to the games and stand under the bass and go, Doc, I got you big.
I'm not going against the nets.
He had to cover Albert King, and they would give him four points, and the fucking Nets beat him at home.
I went to see, I used to go to see the Sixes against the Knicks on Christmas.
That's how lucky I was.
It was very lucky.
You had no idea.
So for me to watch basketball now, I just...
It's like, ah, it's cool.
But when you watch Julius Urban, when you watch Ice Man, you know, George Gervin was smooth.
Smooth, six foot seven, six foot eight, really?
Because they lied.
Because San Antonio would score 150 points on you.
Yeah, they'd score Seattle would score 150 points on you.
You think I'm kidding, you though.
I'm saying, I'm talking of these people, Denver would score 150 points on you.
Please show America downtown Freddie Brown.
Just show America.
This is a chubby little dude
that sat at the end of the bench
with a brown bag, drinking a couple beers.
And they tell the coach, coach, listen.
Listen, I don't know about salary caps.
I don't know anything.
I got a little house.
I got this little skinny sister.
She's banging.
I just want to eat and drink.
And score like maybe 12 points again.
I'll come in.
I shoot six times.
I get 12 points on the motherfucker.
Right?
This guy was tremendously.
He had a little body.
None of them.
See if they find one of his video.
And he was sit at the end, and they put him in, like, with two minutes left in the first quarter, he always relieved somebody.
Like, who, you know, look, Fred.
Do you want to see him talking or him playing?
Playing.
I want to see talking.
What I want to see talking for?
Right here, let him do the talk.
Look at him.
This is crazy.
This is, this guy could fucking destroy you.
This is why they were scoring 150 points.
Boom.
He was, and look at his body.
He was no.
This is a little guy.
He's a little guy.
Oh shit
There's downtown
Look at him
Shaking him
One hand
Bam
It was automatic
When he got the ball
And he would tell the coach
I don't want to do much
I don't really want to play defense
I just want to listen
Right here there he go
Boom
There you go Lee
Popping him one-handed
Look at the net
Lee look at the net
Look at the net
Their biggest league
Six
The Lakers
Bigger's biggest league
See the thing is
That's why he'd be like
Steph Curry is the best
Best shooter
That was nice
It was some people that was out there that was silk, man.
Watch this guy.
This is craziness, Lee, how this guy played the game.
And he wasn't a starter.
Jumper?
Pop!
Look at that!
We just saw him throw in three shots in a row, and that's what he would do.
And that's it.
That's it.
That's all they needed him for.
Yeah, 10 seconds.
Go ahead, give it to him.
Look at this, Lee.
There he is, Lee.
And they weren't even covered him.
No, they knew.
You could put eight guys on him.
It don't matter.
It don't matter.
You got to guard everybody.
Look at that one.
Look at that one.
Lee, it was all poppers.
And he didn't start shoot.
Remember, they caught the three-pointers that later his career.
They knew he would kill that.
They're like, we can't give it to a little chubby black dude.
Look at him.
Look at the net.
Any side of the floor.
They don't do that no more.
So.
All right.
So now when do you get released, my brother?
I got released October 21st, 1997.
And then I actually got really released 2007, October 21st.
Okay, so...
October 7th, you go move back with who?
Mom, uncle.
I actually moved.
I went to Houston with $100.
Had no really place to go, no place to stay.
So I went to my mom's house.
And I knew I wasn't going to be there for very long.
I was like, yo, two weeks tops, I'm out of here.
And I went to a man's apparel store because I had no clothes.
So, you know, and I went to this store.
It was called Mosa at the time.
And his dude named Reggie Ballett was the manager.
And I went and he's like, yo, we're not hiring.
So I went the next day.
He's like, yo, we're not hiring.
Then I went Friday.
He said, yo, man, I told you.
we're not hiring.
Cool.
So then I show up Saturday.
The place is busy.
And so the place's busy.
I'm just sitting in there looking, you know,
inconspicuous.
The dude's like, yo,
um,
yo,
can you go to the back?
Because it looked like I was working there.
Can you go to the back and give me some mock necks?
I was like,
didn't know what the mock neck turtleneck was at the time.
So I just went to the back and I'm like,
yo,
I'm the mock necks.
And so dude's like right over there.
So I took something to the front.
And then I just end up working the whole day.
And then Reggie was like, yo, we had a great day.
You guys were on fire.
And he looks at me and says, man, didn't I tell you he wasn't hiring?
I'm like, yes, you said, but I've been here all day, you know, working.
So he told me to come back Sunday.
I was a top salesperson there for like two years.
And then it was another place called a sunglass hut.
I worked in the Mosa and the Sunglass Hut in the same mall,
Sharpstown Mall in Houston.
And I started doing stand-up at this place called Just Joking Comedy Cafe in Houston on Richmond.
Will it be out?
Yeah, Juan Villarreal and Honest, Jay was the host for a while,
and Bruce was the, Bruce was the host for a while, and Tony Scopefield and all these guys,
Jamario, Jamario, Jemario, I'm just going, and it was Apollo night that I went.
And I had a phobia about earthquake for a long time, performed with Earthquake,
because the first time I ever went up,
that's when I learned
a very, very good lesson
about your audience,
who you're in front of.
So it's college night,
it's the night that I'm going,
they let all the average of people up.
I have on a suit
because I worked at the Man's Apparel store,
but college kids are just in there
with college kids,
where I walk on stage
and they immediately start booing me
because I have on a suit.
And as I'm getting booed,
earthquake walks in.
And I'm like, yo, I just got booed in front of an earthquake.
So I waited like two weeks, and I came back with some jeans on and a t-shirt,
walking.
I didn't say what I was going to do.
I just put my name on the list.
And I went up, and a month later, I was the host of the Apollo night for like a year and a half.
And then they tried to pay me $35 one night with a super-packed house and said,
you know, wasn't, you know,
wasn't no people in here.
And then I left.
And then I, every since then,
I just always had a room in Houston
where I could go and work on my craft and whatever.
So for a lot of times,
the earthquake was walking to places,
and I'm like, I'm not going to do good
because earthquakes here.
And then finally we start working together.
I worked on a couple of shows with him.
But yeah, that's why I started, man.
But I just, once again,
learning from taking something from prison,
knowing your audience, knowing where you had, and then adjusting.
That's the start of me.
When you went to your mom's house, was stand up in your mind or was it on the horizon?
It was on the horizon.
Like me, it was on the horizon.
When I walked out of it, I was like, it's going to be a tough sell.
I couldn't sell it to myself at that time.
I didn't know the basics, and I kept dabbing with it, like just watching movies, you know, watching specials.
Well, when you get out of prison, don't you have to get a job?
So don't you need to have something more?
I went right to a halfway house because I got reconsidered to community corrections.
They elongated my sentence to string me out.
Yeah, I got sent to like a little pre-release unit.
And, man, I got in trouble that, man.
I can believe it.
It's very tough, very tough.
But I knew why I got in trouble and something, oh, man, you develop.
This is what, you know, maybe it was just me.
Maybe you did as well.
I developed a different appreciation for women in prison.
It doesn't matter to me what you look like anymore.
Because in prison, it's like this, the old, you know, the old female guards used to wear their pants tight as they could possibly get them.
And, you know, it's just, oh, man, as you, as you, only around men, you start looking at this older woman, like, her face is all wrinkled.
She's a guard.
but something about our body is like,
I think this is hot.
So then I'm at a pre-release, man.
I'm about to get out like, I know I like it's six months.
And there was this little female guard.
She had to be maybe like 60,
but she still had this cute little bubbly shape.
And she was a lot like a, she worked in a law library.
And her pants used to be so super tight.
you could see everything and I couldn't take it I just wrote a letter one time I was like I was locked up
in prison it never did that but I was like yo man I had on free world clothes you couldn't it was too
much man I tried to talk to that lady I was like yo man I'm sick and I mean still to this day I see
older white women because that's all that really worked because you in these small country towns
and it's like you see these women you like yo man this is crazy why do I develop
Like I wouldn't work at the old folks on them.
I'll probably get in trouble there.
I don't know what I would do.
Yo, I need to pay for your mom again.
I don't know what it would do, man.
The first pre-release I went to was possibly one of the craziest situations I lived in.
Like, I wasn't there a week already, and I was selling blow.
I was lending money out because I got a job right away.
I got a job selling cars right away, and I asked for a fucking five-on-a-law and all the fucking to get me going.
And then somebody said, dog, there's a bunch of people here that you lend them 75 bucks.
They don't, because you had to pay your rent on Thursday.
The system knows how to fuck a motherfucker.
You got to pay your rent on Thursday, but 90% of people don't get paid until Friday.
So I developed a little gig lending out 75 for 102.
I don't even know what the numbers were about.
But people lined up, and I was making $25 ahead, $27 ahead.
And they paid me no problem.
I went nuts.
The chicks were.
hot in there. The guards were hot with nobody.
There was a white, tall, skinny chick that one day came in, and I was weighing Coke, and
I put it in the ceiling. And when I went to get the Coke, you know, you put it in, like,
a bingle. Yeah.
It opened, and all the Coke went all over the floor. And she came in, she goes, what's all
this stuff? And we're like, it's falling off the ceiling.
She goes, you guys got to get out of the vacuum. I'm going to write you up.
Write us up for fucking. She thought we didn't, she thought it was spackle from the roof.
It was like a roof like this, like a ceiling.
Yeah.
It was really Coke rocks and shit that fell out of a bed.
She would have bent over and tasted one of those things.
Then we would have fucked her.
Yeah.
She would have been.
But, no, dog, I went into the handway.
I started to slaying a little coke,
and there was a little white chick named Patrice from Michigan,
real cute and shit.
And she always had a boyfriend who was locked up.
Him and her got locked up together type deal.
But we talked, you know, we get meals and talk and shit.
And that pre-release you paid $50 a day for groceries,
and they gave you a bag of TV dinners, burritos,
frozen orange juice.
They gave you just the worst food
in the fucking world.
Mutsarilla sticks,
white bread that was old and shit.
Co-cuts and the fucking thing.
So I started bringing in my own food,
but they would search you.
If you had more than 40 bucks,
you go to jail.
You had to hide your money outside
or have to hide it in the car
because they know that you're planning something.
Why, you got more than 40 cash?
They want to know your bank accounts.
It was crazy.
It was fucking crazy.
And I started selling a little coconut.
there.
I found, you know, and all of a sudden I get there, one and then when I go to sign in,
there's a note that people could leave your notes.
And there was a note from Patrice.
And she goes, come to my room.
So I went to her room, I knocked.
What time you got to get out of it?
3.30?
No, I was just making sure today, baby.
Yeah, 3.30 will get you out of it.
And I knocked on her room, and all of a sudden she opened her the door with not a bikini
on, but with a see-through thing that was naked underneath.
And right at the doorway, I just popped a Cuban egg roll out.
She dropped.
I squeezed her tities.
Oh.
Well, she gave me a little sucky-sucky, and that was it.
And that's when it really went off and popping in there,
because that's when I realized the lady invix were fucking the invix.
The first floor had the women.
The women were upstairs.
They'd kill those bitches upstairs.
The women were on the first floor,
and the men were on the second and third floor.
So if anything had happened with a woman, they'd catch you,
but there was a TV room, and the woman,
and that's how you got hand jobs from the chick,
and then you could both sign out to 7-Eleven
and make that one and suck a second.
tithies it was fucking craziness man man your house white house was way better than mine we were we we we have
been a pre-release so they had still had all these dudes and you could have free world clothes but you
couldn't have money they would make you put only money on your books and but the female
officers did they work that they knew you was getting out they knew you a six months
time this person's on the street I watched this lady come pick a dude
up. She quit and picked the dude up
at the gate. And
man, go ahead.
What happened with the two people
who escaped in Pennsylvania
or whatever that was? Like, did you guys ever hear
about that? Like, guard
smuggling stuff in? Even if it's not a woman
or... Well, at the inside,
when you're in that level, you're always
going to find one motherfucker that's
getting something from a guard. Listen,
those motherfuckers make a certain amount of money.
If you got paper,
if you're locked up and you got paper,
I tell a story, man.
One of my best friends locked up was a Crip.
I'm not associated with gangs.
He was just a Crip.
You know what?
He loved me and I love him.
But what I loved about him was on Sunday nights,
he had seven visits.
He had seven women, dog.
Ali, he had seven women on the outside.
He had them all in cars.
They all had his kids.
They all got a stipend.
Because homie was fucking banked up at 25.
We were both the same age.
But on Sunday nights, we put our foods together
for the week.
And he had all his peeps
and the nutter butters.
And me and him
would put on the album at the time,
see, because every time period,
like the album at the time
when I was locked up,
the big, big album,
for white people was guns and roses,
appetite for destruction,
but for black people
was Bobby Brown,
don't be cruel.
Don't be cruel.
So every time Bobby Brown
don't be cruel came on.
So on Tuesday nights
was Domino gambling
night for the brothers
in the laundromat.
And they'd just be playing
Domino's,
But once the beginning of dumping crew came on
And they'd start a little snapping
Oh my God
Oh my God Lee
I still
And they'd smuggle shit in there
Like the white dude that I worked with Ron
Would take a pot
And put cheese in the government cheese
With an iron
What you take from an iron
He'd melt that motherfucker
And he'd throw jalapenos in that bitch
And onions
So y'all doing a spread
This motherfucker was and fuck
Ron would cater to Tuesday night
Gambling night
And he made nachos for them
he would make fucking some type of burrito.
It's the soup spread, it's cold spread and hot spreads.
I'm sitting here, look, you, I've been listening to you for the last two seconds,
but I really haven't been because you said nutty buddies.
Nutter butters.
Man, let me tell you something.
Joyce deletes them.
Dog, they're the best thing in the world.
I thank Torrey Bowls.
Chocolate ball with the, oh, listen to me.
We had a sandwich that we used to make with these.
So you take the nutty buzzer.
and you take a honey bun and you put peanut butter on both sides.
Jesus Christ.
And you stack the nutty buddies on both sides.
Do you understand how serious this is?
Oh my God, I'm becoming diabetic.
It's like, I don't, I really don't.
You have no idea, Lee.
I really don't like going back there, but this will take me to a whole another place.
You don't understand how good this is.
And you've got to lay the flat part of nutty buddy on, on.
lay the flat part of nutty buddy on the peanut butter with
wait is it too
is it like a sandwich sticky bun
or one sticky bun one sticky bun one sticky bun one sticky bun on peanut butter on both
you got to make it right you got to put you got to listen
you gotta put the nutty butter down
you got to spread the peanut butter on your honey bump
flip that down and then put peanut butter on the other side
and then put two more netherbutters on the side
and then if you got friends you cut it up for your friends
but you want it by yourself
Oh my goodness, I'm losing it right now because that was like the ultimate.
That's why I tell you, Lee, that simplicity sometimes when you've been locked up,
it's the simple pleasures like that that makes you go back home.
Were you guys smoking weed in there?
No, no, no, no, no, no, that's a hard thing.
It's like the highest.
We were doing acid because they couldn't test you for acid.
Yeah, they couldn't test for acid.
So I was doing acid.
Then they was drinking a lot of hooch in their,
I had a dude named Berto.
That's all he used to drink was the hooch.
He would make it itself just for himself.
And we always knew when he was drunk,
just he would bust out of his cell with just his like two pair of boxes on his boots.
And he just come out, who want to fight with me?
But everybody knew that he was like a boxer.
And I was like, Berdo, nobody want to fight with you.
Man, no.
I was in my cell and somebody said, ding ding.
He's drunk
He's drunk man
It's like him and his dude named
Roger Rabbit was like the dudes
Roger Rabbit had two goals in the front
And he had two oars
And he was hilarious
And you would always know when he would get into a fight
Because he would do a public envy song
He would
You would like
What was his line was
I'm in the air
You're on the ground is me
That's what he
That's when I knew he was getting to a
You would hear him.
You'd be going somewhere, and you would hear, I'm in the air.
And then you know somebody's probably knocked out.
Because in his mind, that's why you're on the ground.
The two head chefs in the kitchen, one was a brother named Graveyard.
Okay.
Because he put you in the graveyard and shit.
And then the other guy was Chicken Hawk.
His real name was Spencer Antoine.
And I loved him like, he schooled me in a lot of ways.
But there was another guy in there.
him etchy, a scary little brother.
The first, like, he was the original,
who replaced who on Friday?
In fact, he was the original Chris Tucker.
And he used to go Cuba, watch this.
And he'd come into a room, take his little thing and go,
freeze, everybody down.
And he his voice, it was like, he was,
and he goes, that's what I did for years.
I was the voicemant.
People paid me, made me a partner just to be the voicemont and say freeze.
And people would actually go under.
And those are the people that made your time easier.
I had this white dude that wasn't yoked up.
I had a couple tats.
But all the other white dudes, I would see that would stay clear of this dude.
This dude was no joke from Philadelphia.
His name was John Clark.
And he would get, see, that's why I took the stockler job
because my visitations were Monday and Tuesday.
So I was in that room alone.
I could eat some ass.
I could finger you.
She could bring Chinese food.
If you get your visitations on Saturdays and Sundays, you don't get that.
You're in a fucking table with kids crying next to you and people changing diapers.
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
John Clark used to get his visit on Monday so the chick could make out with him and give him speed.
And he would swallow the speed.
And by Wednesday, sometimes he'd just keep it in his chin and take your big envelope down.
But Mondays, he'd get his thing, and he'd come to my fucking room, and we chop it up.
And he'd give me a line of meth.
and we go to the high school to play basketball,
they shipped us over on the bus.
I thought my heart was going to fucking blow up.
And I go back to my room and say,
I can't believe I'm in prison.
And I'm still living like I was living on the outside.
Every day's an adventure.
Like, I was the stock clerk,
so I had steroids and drugs in the stock room
that was off the thing.
They never brought the dogs up there.
Yeah, I was fine, safety clerk.
Okay, yeah.
I was a fine safety clerk.
You're in the front office.
And you had, you had,
had access to probably everything.
I used to sit in a little room,
and I used to try to make out with this teacher all the times.
You're up front, and the teachers were, like, right over there,
but you spend so much time with them because you by yourself, basically.
Scarborough, the guy, the officer that was supposed to be over me,
the fire and safety man, his name was Scarborough, but he was never there.
He was like, I was like on my own.
And going back to what he said about being, having fun.
in prison.
I just,
a story just came in my head.
A guy named Wynn.
He was from Vegas, man.
He was a real big dude.
Um, he was Italian and black.
Real big dude.
We said, man, because, you know,
a lot of times you can't get to sleep and you just be sitting in and I would hear this
dude just out of nowhere.
You're going, what's up, man?
Man, we can't sleep, man.
And Wynn was like, all right.
and this is i never even heard these songs before i thought there was him and then he would tell me
no that's the walls album he was out of nowhere hello hello hello is there anybody in there
and i knew the whole song from him like i never heard the original song he would sing the whole
wall whatever a dark side of the moon or whatever it was the wall the wall the whole thing it was
it was two it was four album sides it was like he knew all the songs
songs by like song number seven i'm knocked out but that's when it's like and win was so hilarious
he was a big dude they used to they you know you could you could lift and then it was a dude
named brown which was a huge black dude that came off a blockup and brown used to he used to
he used to rattle his door so hard that you could hear it if he was in g-pop you could hear it
And they were like, yo, that's brown, brown acting up again because they wouldn't give him something.
This is the first person I ever seen.
You know, they had this thing called Jack Mack.
It was like Macro in a can.
He was the first person I ever seen, opened the can, drink the juice, and just take it out of the can and put it on two pieces of bread and just eat it with the bones, skin, everything.
He was an animal.
We're watching the S, I know it was the NAACP Awards.
Never forget it. Taintful of people
watching NWASDP Awards.
When and Brown walks
in and
cuts the TV off
right in the middle and say
yo, y'all about to
be the judges of this bodybuilding contest.
And I said,
but he said, Lee,
don't play. I'll choke you today.
I'm not playing with you. You're the judge. You're the master
of ceremonies. I'm like,
this is stupid, man.
And two huge dudes,
are on the top of the table with just their underwear on.
And I'm like, the whole audit, the rest of the tank is doing this,
and I'm doing like this.
Back, lax, it's like, I got to tell them which position to go in.
And it's hilarious once I think back on it.
But it's like, he held, they held the whole room hostage for us to watch them body bill.
And we're just sitting there like, and I said this, Brown got so mad to me.
I said, hey, Wins back is.
bigger than yours. You crazy.
You crazy. I got the biggest back on this
unit. I'm like
this is hilarious. I say
when? Brown's legs
are bigger than yours. He's like,
yo man,
so I'm watching two dudes
walk back out
and they went right back to the rec yard.
Right back to working out. I'm like
this is insane.
But that was another good day. And you live
on certain protein.
There's guys in there that bodybuilded
But the weirdest thing here is the correlation that you went to prison for doing something bad
and you really got something good on it.
You never went, you never recidivism.
There was no rate.
There was no rate with me.
I got arrested against Seattle for an assault and shit like that.
But I didn't get arrested for kidnapping or trying to take drug dealers down anymore.
I mean, what are the fucking chances, bro?
What are the chances just staying out of jail?
Never mind
Talking to you
Right now has helped me a lot
Because sometimes
Just when I walked in here thinking
I saw you
And I was sitting
I'm like
This guy had the same situation
I had
Two different parts of the world
That anything could have happened
Because once you go in
They got you
You and I both know
They fucking got you man
That's the scary
That's the scary part
What do you mean by that?
You're there
And you're not going anywhere
And you're at the mercy
of somebody else's
and a lot of these people are friends
or family members
or officers that work at these prisons with you
and you
this is when you talk about nerd
this was the only thing that was scary
to me in prison realistically
that one that's not promised
that I get out of here
and that somebody
could kill me in here
and my family not know
because I'm so far away
from my family and
I'm talking about an officer
you know
yeah and they can make up any story
he had a shoot
whatever just for protecting yourself
just for saying fuck you
I'm not doing it
he might hit you with a stick
you might hit him back with a stick
another office comes in
shoot you in the fucking head
and there you go for something
you didn't really do you were just sticking up
for yourself yeah and that's the thing
that gets to you
that one
that one moment that you think
man somebody could kill me
in here. The officers, the administration
could kill me.
And what would be the story?
You know, what, what
could happen? When would my family find
out? When they
write or, and I don't return
a letter, when they come to visit and they say,
well, I'm not here, or
they ship me somewhere else, it's
thousands of things that could have happened
with the administration
that didn't by the grace
because I know it was people
that was there with me, that went in with
me that did not make it out.
You know, whether you're in a riot,
man, I was in a riot, a lot of riots.
And they
left you, they leave you
on the ground for a while.
They don't know if you stabbed
or what's the situation.
They just left you on the ground and they
processing people in at a time.
So,
a lot of times, the black guys
were the last ones to go in.
They would get the white guys first, then the
Spanish guys, then they would bring the
black guys in after you didn't got tear gassed and all the rest of this you don't you don't know what's going on
so it's it's it's those moments in there that you think about you know in hindsight but while you
was in that it comes across like yo man it was a blessing that i made it out of there and the only other
thing that i did that was a good thing that was in there if you were my age you was in my age group
like anywhere from 18 to 25
you was in my age group
it was like a mandate
that you had to go to school
if you didn't have any type of GED
no type of diploma
you know I would come to talk to you I'm like
yo what's your plan when you get out of here
it would be best that you go to school
while you here
well I don't want to go to school
and I'm like nah this is really not a conversation
like you think
it's not that type of conversation
and this kind of this is a
this is kind of more of like an order
well who are you to order me
well if you don't go to school
you will you see
because it was broken down
I was considered a
what they call a convict
a vet because even though I was young
because of the unit that I went to
and it was all lifers
a lot of times
so I learned from them
how to conduct myself
in this environment
with my,
what my uncles taught me
and then the environment
of being in there with them.
When did your uncles teach you that?
Was it like,
growing up,
this is the crazy thing.
You know, uncles are strange beings.
Your father would be like,
yo, you'll never do this,
you never do it.
But your uncle
sees something different
in you all the time.
And then he started giving you
tidbits of what to do in life.
Like my uncle was the first person
that ever told me, hey man, if you can't beat them,
you pick something up and you put it in their head.
You put it and you bust them in the head with it.
My father was like, yo, you know, you fight.
But my mom was, she reinforced what my uncle said.
Like, yo, she's 4-11.
My mom's 4-11 and she,
you'll never be bullied.
That's my mom out the rip.
You understand me?
You will never be bullied.
by anybody.
I could get in the fight, some kids to jump
on me. My mom, we're going back
down there, and you're going to
fight each one of them kids one while
I'm standing here, because they're not going to jump on you.
And if anybody does jump on you, I got my hand in my purse, and you know
what that mean, so we're going from that.
But I used to be embarrassed about
walking the fights with my sister
and my mom, but this
is one of the most brutal women
you could ever possibly come
across. Like, yo, you got to, you've got to,
You got it twisted.
You think you're going to bully my son.
My mom walked me into a couple of fights.
I want me to take you away.
She fucking threatened the shit on me.
Let me give some shout-outs here.
And we'll get you the hell out of here.
Listen, man, 300 episodes.
It's all because of you guys.
So I'm giving all you motherfuckers a shout-out.
I love you guys to death.
Thank you for keeping us alive.
Paul Lynch, Freddie Korea.
Diana Mateo,
delusional, Thomas,
Dead Squad, Nashville, Danny Cheeseburger, Jesse Wright.
Gomez and Escondido
Anarchy Edibles
and Raymond Mandi
I love all you
motherfuckers
If I didn't mention you
It's because there's too many
You cock suckers that I love
Right
It's not like a mob line up
And that's bad
I'm telling you
I got these people
Here they're fucking
It sounds like the prison names
It sounds like everybody
Who still runs booking somewhere
Like yo
They run horse races
Tony Montana
Illusional Thomas
Diana Mateo
Now you gotta give these people up
Man
They've kept the motherfucking
lights on and...
I've got 30 more minutes.
I still got more time.
Oh, no, no.
I got a pee, though, real quick.
I was going to do something here.
I don't fucking know.
I got to pee real quick.
So, Jesus Christ.
You know, you try to lose some weight
and be healthy, but then you got to pee
every little 18 minutes.
You drink water.
You think all he thinks.
Jesus' express.
So where are you going to be,
Ellie?
Oh, I'm going to be at the Braille improv tonight
and then head it back on the road.
and Bill Bellamy with being at the Arlington Improv.
And this is a great thing, man.
I'm happy to do all these podcasts,
especially anything that Ari suggested I do.
Well, after you were on his podcast, like, listening,
especially when you hear of prison,
just because it's so foreign to, like, most people.
Like, oh, him and Joe would be good together.
But, like, you don't want to have it be too close,
too right next to each other.
But I don't know how long he's been talking to you for, but ever since the show and he's blown up, it's really cool.
Yeah, it's been a good thing.
Like, this about prison is a lot less intense than me and ours.
And we've both been there.
So it's like going to a different place of the fun and the other things that could happen in there.
It's like, man, the nutty but a thing, when he mentioned it, it just paused me.
Like, I didn't even hear anything else.
I just like, yo.
How often would you do that?
Man, like, as much as you could.
It was like, it was like, that's like the crim, that's like a cream brulee.
People need to do that and put pictures up and tag all of us because that sounds delicious.
Yo, man, anybody, if you understand the dynamics of this sugar protein rush is peanut butter, a cinnamon.
type of cinnamon roll you want.
I like the honey buns.
The honey bun.
Oh, delicious.
It's like, it just puts you in a moment of time in prison that you know that you, like,
like when I know some guys who drank coffee with Kool-Aid in and peppermints, they would call it a pretty and then, and all that.
But you would, it would be, you would be so amped up after you drank one of these.
It was like, you got this Kool-Aid pack, you got like four scoops of coffee and then a peppermint and it's like mud.
and you just drink that and you eat and you eating this this crim this is a crumboulet this is like a crumbullet in prison this nutter butter with this pinnid butter in a honey bun eating that and you feel like yo man life is okay right now and then somebody gets stabbed and you'd be like all right cool I'm back to reality but it and I like I never even like I don't drink coffee now like I despise coffee but but
You don't want to go to Starbucks, go to the back and jerk off, they got you on tape.
All these Starbucks, these dirty white people got cameras and all these Starbucks.
You go to those Starbucks, take a shit, you're on a Go Now TV and somewhere in a fucking on a plane.
Here's the fucking crazy thing for me that I realized a long time ago, listen, man, I hate working Sundays.
Like, I fucking hate it.
When I was a young comic, I did it.
But one day I said, I'm not doing it no more.
I like Sundays at home.
I grew up watching Omaha and Disney and all that shit,
and it just means something.
You don't have a family, you get one,
and you hang out with them on Sundays.
And I didn't have visitation on Sunday.
Everybody else used to have visitation on Sunday.
And that was the first season of either America's Most Wanted
or married with children.
Okay.
87.
And me and this kid.
And again, he was a fucking crib.
He was cripping all the way through that motherfucker.
But me and him,
We're sitting in his room, or we go to the AIDS unit with the nother butters, and we pull out
a chair, and we put our feet up, and we eat another butters and dip it in milk, and I'd have a Coke
on the side.
And the pain went away, the doubt in your mind, just for that night.
It was a Sunday night with my friend, and sometimes Anthony Severino were coming from
Cleo and they sit with us, and I don't care how long, how old I get to be.
I'll never forget those times.
You know, you said that story about emceeing a bodybuilding competition.
I've said this story a thousand times.
I used to, on third.
The second and fourth Thursday of the month was film night.
And you got to, they passed a thing around in the cafeteria,
and you had a market by the end of the day what three films you want.
And they put two fucking films on.
But in those days, I don't even think it was VHS.
It's like beta.
It was something crazy.
But the machine ate the fucking tape.
Or it did something fucking crazy, and it would bust.
And one day the guys were goofing because I would sit in the kitchen while they were serving the food and watch,
and I would tell the people that were my friends what and what not to eat.
So there was some black people I helped out and some white dudes I'd help out, and I'd go, don't eat the shit on shingles.
You know, corn, beef on chip, whatever the fuck that is.
You know, it's beef with cream on fucking bread that's horribly.
You know, but there was some stuff that was good.
Where I was at, there was a pistachio pudding.
Oh, my fucking God, to die for.
I would trade everything.
The meatloaf was sensational.
The turkey on fucking Thursday, sensational.
The black dude that made the lasagna on Wednesday,
fucking off the chain.
You understand me?
That you would stab a motherfucker for lasagna,
and they would give you like a six-ounce military-style piece.
There was certain shit that till today I eat because of prison.
especially pistachio anything.
Like I ate pistachios when I was locked up,
but I never had pistachio pudding like a kid.
Once I tasted pistachio fucking pudding,
I thought my head was going to blow up.
I loved it.
Is it what?
Do you have things like this?
Like, it's certain things about prison,
like the respect level of how people respected each other mostly.
Like you really like,
you really wouldn't be disrespected by some main dude.
You was like, yo, you know, it would be, the meetings, I miss the meetings a lot of times.
When something would happen, I missed the whole covert operation of the head of this gang and the head of this gang and my gang and everybody else's getting together.
And it's only the elite cats in this meeting.
And we're trying to see, and this is a real meeting because this is going to mess up the prison.
when you having a discussion,
yo,
so this guy stole this
and we got to rectify this
and you're talking to all of the Mexicans
like, yo, we're going to ride tomorrow
if this doesn't happen.
And you're really making a decision
on the person lives or dies
on how this goes.
And I never forget,
this guy stole this guy's radio.
And we've made it.
We sent down a mandate
that the people that over that guy,
y'all need to go in
and y'all need to handle that.
And as we stood, the Mexican gang stood to the side as they went and handled it.
My crew stood to the side.
And he came out of his cell like they were wrestling or something.
And the Mexican gang just walked off.
And I said, wait, we'll handle it.
And our guys went up and then we ended up having staples putting his head.
because what you would rather risk of Spanish and black riot over radio,
that's what you guys would rather risk.
And then we service the other two guys that you can't do a fake discipline in prison.
There's no fake disciplines.
Either you're going to discipline this party so he'll understand,
or you can cause a whole uproar.
And I don't want to get up, and I don't want to be on guard all the time.
in this place.
So we, you know, these meetings
and these different things
that would be happening in prison
that I kind of miss it sometimes,
but I miss more of
food that I can't,
it's not the same.
Peanut butter on pancakes is not the same
in the free world.
It's like I don't even have access
to that type of peanut butter or something.
I never ate a sardine again.
I ate more mustard sardine.
When I was in prison, white crackers, because I was getting the protein and trying to build muscle.
I would eat the fucking mustard sardines until they came out of my eyeballs.
You understand me?
Yeah.
Once I stepped out there, electrician, I never touched the fucking sardine again.
But when I see them in supermarkets, I stop and I fucking giggle a little bit.
And you think about it.
Just to myself, and I don't tell nobody what I'm giggling about.
It's just my little fucking thing.
When I see mustard sardines, it was.
Man, we both gained the same insight from it.
It was a fucking world that I had exposed to it,
that I always knew I was going to end up there.
I always knew.
I knew when I was 20 breaking into a window.
I said, you know what, it's coming.
I just don't know when.
I'm going to keep myself out of there.
I don't want to go in there.
But it's coming.
For how long, it's going to be something else.
I was something I was thinking about when I got to move,
my car at 4 o'clock or they'll fucking tell you
in front but that's why I'm all
fucked up right now but we got time.
We got 15 more minutes. What was the
worst place they put you in that you saw
something that
I don't even think
I saw a lot of the same thing everywhere
but this spot called Goree
Gourri Prison in Huntsville
and also the walls
Gorey Union of Huntsville
oh man it was atrocious they had me
locked in a box literally in a box
man. It
It's like it was a closet.
And you had this one little sliver that you could look out.
And that was it.
No other walls.
And it's like, yo, man.
And I'm coming from.
I'd already been locked up for a while.
So I'm not accustomed to this.
Whatever this is, I don't know.
I don't like it.
And they transfer me to somewhere else.
I'm like, yo, man, this ain't where it's at.
I'd rather have been in solitaire.
I mean, just put me in solitary confinement.
and I'm good.
But this, I'm not in solitary, but I'm in this box, man.
And it's just, it, when I, I literally, if I'm driving somewhere in Houston,
if I go through Huntsville, I literally shoot the finger at Gorey every single time that I pass.
Going and coming.
No matter who I'm in the car with, they were like, yo, what's that about?
Don't even worry about it.
But that place over there is right off, it's right off the highway in Huntsville, Texas.
And I like, every time.
And it just irritated me to even be in that place.
It's like, it's something about that place that they put me in their box.
I just couldn't take it.
And my whole journey, it was one place.
And there was, I thought I was, because you go to, I went to county,
and county was overcrowded.
So they said they're going to transfer you.
Either you're going to go to Missouri,
you're going to go to Texas,
or you're going to go to different county jails in Colorado,
depending on your time.
And then they'll put me in a ski resort jail,
which is supposed to be a piece of cake.
Everybody in there was fucking nuts.
And that's the first time the guards were going to pathmark for you.
You can get in your booze, bottles of booze.
They came in that night and said,
we're making a ton of clock run.
Who got cash?
Let's do this.
whiskey, $22 a bottle.
I mean, they already had prices.
This place was crazy.
There was a county jail.
Everybody in there was white.
I mean, it was like three black people.
And everybody was in there for hitting somebody in there with a ski pole when they were drunk.
It was just crazy.
But before they took us to the DOC, they took us to this other place.
I was in there for three days.
And guys, I got to tell you something, I wasn't scared.
I was just, it really broke me down as a man.
like it really made me feel for what I had done.
Like if that was it, I was going to have an uncomfortable time.
They put me by myself.
And it was a basement with a slit.
And that was it.
And you went out to take a shower.
You went out to play ball for an hour.
And God forbid you got sweaty.
Now you got a fucking lay there for two days with stinky fucking nuts.
They had a little bit of toilet paper.
You had a little metal toilet.
It was colder than fuck at night.
It was a metal bed.
I didn't know.
I really had doubts.
I read three books in two days, and they searched them.
They came into my thing four fucking times.
And I was like, if this is what it's going to be like, that was my biggest lesson.
I didn't like a man kicking my bed telling me when I had to wake up.
I didn't like that disrespect.
That's what I think kept me out of there.
I had it to a minimum.
There was a couple dudes that fucked with me, but they fucked with me to see my reaction,
the guards I'm talking about.
And with the guards, I kept it very cool.
I kept it very low-key.
They saw I was cool.
I stayed away from the drugs.
There was different trailers that had different drugs.
If you stayed out of there, you were fucking cool.
The hardest time ever, it still bothers me to this day.
I was on Bill Clemmons Unit in Amarillo, Texas, a prison guard named Mitchell.
I'm coming from necessities
And he just wanted to do a random strip search on me
In front of everybody
And I told Mitchell I say this is not going to be good man
And my uncle once again
Had advised me to buy some white shorts off a commissary
And always wear them
They could have all of their stuff
But they don't have a right to make you take off your own stuff
For no reason
They can make you shake it out
but that's it.
Mitchell trying to strip search me in front of everybody in the day room,
like in this high traffic area.
And I told him, I said, yo man, you being unfair to me
and you're doing this for no apparent reason.
And it's not going to be good.
It's not going to be good.
I've been here for, at that point, I was there for like five years,
and I had never been naked even in the shower
because I've always had these shorts on.
So to take me out these shorts for no reason, Mitchell, I promise you this is not going to be good.
And so they called all these officers around, even the captain knew.
He was like, yeah, what are we doing?
What happened?
What's the deal?
I just suspect him to have contraband.
I'm like, what type of contraband?
I don't have anything.
So they made me drop my shorts.
And from that point I knew I was never going home.
I knew it because I knew I was going to kill Mitchell.
I knew it.
Nothing about him living.
I knew it.
Four months went by.
And that's all I thought about was getting him every day.
And it happened.
The stars aligned.
This guy was going to, I heard that Mitchell was on four building.
I heard he was on the gate at four building.
I had no clue how I was going to get the four building
Because I'm gonna I stay on seven building
Had no clue
This guy got in four building
It's um
Where they put you right before close custody
You just like
A bunch of bad people go when you get a case in there
Whatever I can't remember the name right now
So this guy coming out with this white bucket
That's on my tank
Like yo man where you going
Like yo they just moved me to four building man
You know I gotta I got to you know
Build my status back up to come back over here
I said, you go in the four building, let me carry your mattress.
And I ran to my cell, got my knife, and I came back down, and I'm like, yo, here we go.
Blue, got his mattress, the dude's rolling his bucket, and I'm literally walking with this mattress,
and he has no clue what's going to happen.
All I'm waiting for Mitchell is to open that door, open that gate.
Once we go through, I'm going to stab Mitchell up.
I know it.
And the distance is so far from the door,
nobody's going to be able to get to him before I kill him.
How close were you to getting out?
Oh, this was, ah, maybe a year.
Oh.
I wouldn't even trip.
I would have never made it to pre-release.
A dude named Leslie Davis,
his name is Alameen and Mustafa.
I don't know who told them.
It's like they came in, it's like,
yo, why are he at?
He helped the old boy move to four.
building. And they
literally got out the building, out of
7th building. Soon as I got
around the corner, Mitchell's opening
the gate, the guys rolling
through with the bucket,
and they come around the corner and they yell
my name, Ali!
And I turn around
and Mitchell sees my face
and he slams the door, slams the
gate close.
And the satisfaction
of me looking in his eyes and he
knew that he was going to die that day
was enough for them.
And I just looked at him.
And I just looked at him.
And today walked up to me.
He said, man, put their mattress down, let's go.
And I just looked at him.
And I said, all right, Officer Mitchell, you have a good day.
That, and I still thanked them for that
because they knew once my mind is made up, it's made up.
It was nothing.
And it was, I felt the lowest form of disrespect for him to strip me down for no reason.
And it's like, I felt like you was trying to, you had a fetish or you was getting off to that or something.
And it just bothered.
I couldn't, I couldn't tolerate it.
My mom, to this day, she was like, I'm glad that that never happened.
But Mitchell, the satisfaction in his eyes, man, to this day.
Of him knowing, of him knowing that you knew and he fucking knew.
Like once they look, there's a look, people, when somebody knows you got them or you got, it's a beautiful fucking look.
And I put that on my, I put that on all my kids.
He had the, he knew it.
He knew it.
Dog, I'm going to just move the car.
Keep this conversation going with Lee.
Let me just go move this fucking car.
So I don't talk about it.
It's right over here.
And then we'll go.
I'll take it down to the corner there.
And you can Uber this motherfucker.
You're not Uber to pray, are you?
No.
Yeah, man, that was one of the points.
And after that, I probably chilled out so deep after that.
It was like, it was enough.
I think that was the only thing that was that I need to get off my chest before I left that place.
And then they moved me to a pre-release.
So I was good after that.
It's just, it's crazy to me.
I've never been in that situation to be like, okay, I'm going to get out in a year.
Yeah, this dude was an asshole, but I could just let it be.
But you're like, no, I have to.
He has to pay for it.
Yeah, it's a different mindset.
Yeah, because in there, in there, you, it's no letting somebody make it with that form of disrespect.
Right.
Have you had any, you talked about it being difficult to transition back, but have you had any, like, actual instances where you were like, oh, I, like, you went, almost went too far or you did go too far?
Not since I've been, not since I've been home.
You know, but even when I think back then, I don't think I ever went too far.
I think I went right to the edge and then I pulled back.
I think the curator really looked out for me, you know, when they say look out for children and fools.
And for a lot of them years, I was just a straight fool.
I was a savage.
Then I got a little bit more grounded.
But before Mitchell, there was no incident.
It was just like I was just a normal person just walking through prison life and it was nothing.
Was that your first arrest?
Yeah, that was my first time ever being incarcerated.
It only takes one.
It only takes one.
It's scary as fucking, man.
Is it possible to request solitary?
I thought about that.
You would have to play crazy or something.
Okay, deal.
Who do you think you're dealing with?
Some fucking novice?
You had to play crazy to get just requests solitaire.
Okay.
Who kind of request?
I said, is it possible to request solitary in prison?
Because I would be terrified.
We got those get up and hit somebody in the head with the tray, with the food.
And they'll put you in there for free.
You can save a fucking tree.
Ooh.
Ooh.
That was a quick run, Jack.
Oh, my God.
I took the car from the front, cut like three people off.
Fuck them.
And the tow truck was right down the corner.
They don't play.
This is how they're making a living here.
I'm on the side.
You're in the back.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're cool.
You're in the front of the fucking building.
Four o'clock they're out there.
You hear that peep, peep, peep, that means you're going down, cock sucker.
That's morse cold right there.
You got to move the fucking car.
Huh?
Good call.
What the fuck you think you're dealing with some novice?
I know how they fucking bang you here.
They don't fuck around in L.A.
bro. That's the quickest
way they get you when you
first move to this town. They start
banging you with tickets. Really weird
tickets. Then you miss one, now your car gets
towed. You go do comedy one night, you come out, your car
is gone. You go down and you
owe $252 for fucking one ticket
you didn't pay. I got a ticket in my
parking spot for my
apartment. I had my landlord
write-up letter saying this is his parking spot
and I went in and sent it to them
and they're like, no, we still want our money.
Oh, they don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck.
They don't give a fuck.
They don't give a Frenchman's fuck about none.
Ali, man, I'm happy I got you on.
I've been thinking about just the journey you had.
I wish we had three more fucking hours.
We could talk to you for three more hours.
We get some in and out shipped in the Uber, that shit.
Very interesting.
You should be very proud of yourself and your family's proud of you.
I mean, you're fucking doing it.
This is no dream.
I wanted to talk to you.
That was the most important thing of the comments.
The first two weeks after you getting sentenced, how your mind goes to a dark place.
That's how you become a savagely because you realize you don't have a life.
Everything, now you start remembering everything somebody told you.
Every time a teacher pulled you over and said you ain't going to make it, you're a fucking idiot.
Or every time your dad said to you, hey man, you keep, that's when you realize everybody was telling you the truth.
Now your mind turns into something else.
your mind turns into a fucking loser
Once your mind believes it
You're gonna fucking believe it
And where the fuck are you
You're in jail
You're in jail
If you were a winner
You're not in fucking jail
So your mind turns on you
And now you have to work your mind out of that
And once you get to your destination
Yeah
You start taking classes
You do jumping jacks
But for a couple days there man
Your mind goes to a weird place
Like you're not going to be saved
So you know what
Now you're looking for a motherfucker to get in your way.
You're looking for a motherfucker to get in your way
because I might as well do 30 fucking years in this shit.
That's, that's, when they sentenced me to 15 years,
I literally said that I wasn't probably ever coming.
No, you're not going to come out.
What the fuck for?
And it was his first arrest, he was saying.
Who?
Oh, yeah, they ain't fucking around.
Wait, they're running a charity out there?
What do you fucking think we're here?
You think we're telling this story?
Because, and it switches,
Quickly, people.
How quick does it come?
Quick.
One minute you're in county, and it gets worse when you're in county, right?
Because you think you're getting busted for one thing.
And then they come back with six more.
Six more.
You're like, yo, that was, I got busted for one thing.
What is this case in that case?
That watch you had on was stolen.
It was on a murdered dude who got shot in Puerto Rico with a gun from the government.
And you're like, what the fuck are you saying?
The wallet you had belonged to Kennedy's bodyguard in Dallas.
They got stolen at the cemetery.
took two steps one way and now it's evading the rest.
They put that on you.
You're like, what?
It is unbelievable.
So your mind goes to this weird place.
And trust me, man, most of the people that stay in there for long periods of time,
stay in there, brother.
Your mind is the first person.
Your mind is the first thing that goes to prison.
Once your mind believes it, that's it.
You've got to keep saying this is just a temporary thing.
Like, it was just a temporary thing for me.
I'm like, I'm getting the fuck out of here.
Once I hit that halfway house, I'm getting an envelope.
I'm getting the fuck out of here.
But in my journey, I knocked the chick up.
And that's what held me back.
They put me back in the halfway house.
I was in there for six more fucking months.
I got out.
Dan, I got a, I was working at a car wash under strict supervision.
But I would talk to this dude once a week.
I would talk to this dude, though.
I only would once a week come in.
Hey, Joe, hey, what's happening?
I forget what his fucking name is.
I was that.
What do you want the usual?
And I'd ride on his windshield and he'd give me a dollar tip.
I'd give him like a free armor roll or something.
And one day he comes out and he goes, you go to school?
And I go, yeah, I'm trying to finish my degree.
They won't let me on campus because I got a felony.
He goes, you know who I am?
I go, no.
He goes, I'm the district attorney at Boulder.
And we started talking.
He goes, what's going on with you?
And I told him about the kidnapping and stuff.
And he goes, all right, do me a favor.
Have your attorney type of a letter.
and I'll sign it.
Done.
The DA that convicted me
was somewhere else now.
He had gone to work
for the feds
and environmental
and the other DA.
So he was like,
they're not there now.
I could just sign this off.
What are your plans?
I go, I'm going to move to Jersey
and go work for these people.
He goes, just having you.
That's how I got that whole fucking spiel.
I thought he cut me down
by 18 months.
A relationship, I made it a car wash
with some dude that I spoke to
for six months before I'd
ever even asked him what he did.
And there was another motherfucker that came in there.
That's when I learned the world to undercover cops.
See, once I got out of prison,
was when I got the world to undercover cops.
I had a dude that would come in with cars all the time.
And then they told me, they go,
what these cops do is if you're from Boulder,
they don't work in Boulder.
They work in Denver.
And the Denver cops work Boulder.
And they have these cars that they got to maintain.
They got to wash.
And you'd see them, they pose like regular drug dealers.
One day they have a Cadillac.
The next day they got a Porsche.
What would you think?
Joey, how many cars you got?
I got like six motherfucking cars.
You ain't nothing.
You're a $400 a week cop, but that's how they get you leave.
Amazing.
And they would talk to me.
They'd start talking to me.
I told them who I was, what I was involved in.
They're like, yeah, we heard of that case.
And they're like, we busted the other guy one day.
You know how we busted him?
We took a plane with him to Miami.
This motherfucker took a cop with him all the way to Florida and copped in front of the cop.
And they nailed them at the fucking airport some guy was doing time with.
So it's pretty amazing the shit you meet.
For you people who listen to the podcast, this was Criminal Week.
I don't know if you realize that.
We had Danny call in on last Thursday,
and we were just covering this because a lot of people hit me up.
But that's it.
The whole Ali thing isn't criminal.
It's a fucking success story.
And I'm proud to have you here today.
Thank you.
Where are you performing that the next couple weeks?
I'm at the Brea Improv tonight.
Then I'm at the Allenton Improv.
And then after that, I'm in San Francisco.
Antonio at the L-O-L-L-River Center.
Man, I'm there forever, like almost a week.
What's your website?
Ali-Saddyk.com.
A-L-I-S-I-D-D-I-Q, and same as on my Instagram and all the rest of them things.
You know, man, I thank everybody for, you know, I definitely think I already thank you.
This is not happening.
It has really boosted my career a lot.
You know, and it was, and people want me to tell this story.
at the comedy shows and I'm like this is like a real story I wasn't a bit that I was doing that's
like a real story he's like is it true like yeah pretty much this the truth you know and it's
Spanish dudes that I see that I was locked up with it like you know man we did have on boots man
I know the signs of things now so man it's just been a good ride and you know hopefully you know
they bring me back for next season.
And, you know, all your stories are great on there.
I think you have to be the most, you've been on every season.
It's like...
This is day one.
I did the first one.
Yeah.
I did the first one in the back of the improv.
We were on a plane together and we were taught about music.
And he goes, come down and do a story.
But when I got down there, I thought of a different story.
Sometimes you're just there watching somebody like, oh, shit.
And I told that story, and that got fucking a bunch of hits.
And it's weird.
People come up to me after show
and say,
you didn't tell the story
about Pink Floyd, man.
Who's going to say that fuck?
That's a one-shot deal.
That you went up there and started flowing.
You got in your zone.
You start throwing shit out there
and it gets clicking.
You can never repeat that feeling.
So, just so people at home.
Thank you, little brother.
Let me give a shout out to the sponsors
and we'll get you the fuck out of here.
Lee, how are you feeling?
I'm feeling great, man.
Right?
You're hit tonight.
The cookie would have been over fucking killed,
correct?
The 500 milligram
Grand Browning?
I mean, it's ever a kill already, but yeah.
No, no, this is a tremendous cool thing.
I want to thank all our weed sponsors
from my main man.
I don't know what those are.
Anarchy Edibles, you don't need to know.
Anarchy Edibles to Korova sending us a little box.
You know, but anarchy edibles, those stars of debt,
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I can't wait to eat edibles with you.
What happened, dog?
I can't wait to eat edibles with you.
Oh, we're going to look this one right here.
We might close up with this.
This is the third hundred podcast.
We might have to eat another.
No, no, no, no, no.
Like, Lee is begging.
We might have to eat another fucking thing.
Lee.
Lee's no more eating.
Lee.
People are at home right and I going, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee.
Three hundred episode.
Lee.
Eat, eat.
Well, I'll tell you well, let's leave it to faith.
You know, we split the quailout, or we take a bite out of the brownie.
What do you think?
Let's split the quailute.
What do you think?
And go out and fucking call Paul and tell her you got some porn.
What are you trying to cause me?
I'm not going to cause me
It's not like I'm going to tie you up and take pics of you and send up to Israel
It's creepy as fuck it's a tiny little bottle
No, this will fuck you up half of this
We'll see the devil
We'll give you a bicycle with a helmet
So you don't get hurt
What is it going to be, Lee?
Do you want him or do you want me?
Because I want you, you know what I'm saying?
The words of prints here.
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trying to fucking get your mind straight
just in case you got hitting the head with a safe
somewhere along the line. I love you guys.
Thank you for being here for 300 episodes.
I want to thank my main man I'll leave
for coming in here and fucking blessing up
with some prison stories. Listen
if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Don't be a punk-ass bitch. You make a mistake, you go in,
you come out and you can do whatever the fuck
you want from scratch. And there'll be people
there for you. I don't know who's going to be there for.
you. But trust me, it all works out.
It all works out, brother.
I'm going to be undies. You sold me on this underwear.
Yeah, no, there's bad shit right now.
Lee, shut this motherfucker down
until Monday. What?
We're on the core.
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