The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #305 - Yogi Steve

Episode Date: August 4, 2015

Yogi Steve, Owner of Outlier Strength, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout. HITecigs.com For a better tasting, longer lasting e cig go to HITecigs.com. Use Promo code joeyschurch for five Hit E Cig's for $50 Naileditlife.com - Get 20% off a vapor pen by using code word joeydiaz. They are also produce some of the best edibles on the market, Los Gummies Hermanos Recorded live on 08/03/15 Music:  Sympathy For The Devil - The Rolling Stones Wanna Be Around - Tony Bennet Soul Stripper - AC?DC

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If you want to see the devil, you got to get down. I've been around for a long, long year. So many a man's so day. Monday, August 3rd. We're making this motherfucker happen tonight. Yogi Steve. Lee, Zayette. Wash his hands

The seal his face There's only one way to go deep Cocksuckers Pleased to meet you The church Good evening out there in podcast land How are you Cocksuckers doing? What's happening, Lisa?

I'm doing great I had a great Actually on Thursday I forgot on what Yeah well after the podcast We went and had dinner With your wife and daughter And it was the best time in the world

It was great It was just I had I haven't been around kids for a while. It's kind of weird, but after kind of high school, when you go to college, I haven't really been around kids and just seeing, I get to see your daughter every few weeks once a month, and it's amazing how much she grows. And then she hasn't, it's not that she doesn't like, it's not that she doesn't like me, but it's kind of like with your cats when they're like kind of feeling me out. She's like, I don't really trust him yet. But then when she was

running around with the two little kids, she's like just the biggest smile on her face. And it was just, it was, it was great to see it. Because I remember when you told me that you were going to have mercy on the way down until one of the improvs. One of the improvs. And now she's almost two and a half or is two and a half. And it's all changed. Ever since she hit the half, for the first six months,

I kept thinking, everybody says terrible twos. They're going to fucking lose their mind. She was a complete princess till two and a half weeks ago. Once she hit two and a half, it's over. It's over. It doesn't stop.

It doesn't stop. It starts at 8.15, and it goes straight till 10, 11 o'clock at night. We put it down at 9, and you can still hear pots banging, and she's doing a one-man show and a concert. But tonight I was looking at her, and I was after dinner. We were just sitting there, and I was talking to my wife about something, and I looked at it, and I go, you know, if she knew how much joy she brought,

if she could understand how much joy she brought to two lumps life, because I'm a fucking lump, you know. I'm a fucking lump. I mean, let's face it. And my wife is a lump. We're two people that were very quiet at home. You're solitary stuff. You know, we're not, we're lumps.

My wife was never into parties. You know, that's why we hit it off right away. She told me her likes and their dislikes. And I don't have to be a, you know, drive all over God's creation. My wife doesn't put no stress on me for any of that shit, which I really appreciate. but if right now if it was just me and her I don't know what we'd be doing I do not know as a couple of what we'd be doing

she'd be involved in that work to the end and I'd be going on the road every week I mean why not I have no child I would go out every fucking week and enjoy this run but this child has no idea how much whoever sent her whatever God the Jew God the Hindu God God God God the Puerto Rican God

the Irish Catholic God whatever God you believe in that sent that little girl into our lives. Just, I own my life. Like that, I can't even, you know. Seeing her what the dog was, like, the best, like, the funniest I've ever seen, because she would go up to it and, like, almost touch it and then just scream and run away. And run away.

It's never ends with the animals. It's just, I'm going through a great time watching her, you know, and it's, I just look at my wife. I look at my wife, and I think all the bad things I've done, and I think that, uh, This is the first person that I really genuinely made happy. Like she smiles from eye to eye. She found her friend. My wife again, man.

This kid don't like anybody. This little baby doesn't like anybody, especially if she has her wife's, my wife's thing. She's very sweet, my wife, but she's never really been involved with people. Right. My wife gives it like a two-time,

you got like two shots of my wife. Then it's over. There's some people you don't really have. And even today, I took her to the pool and I could notice that she was just playing by herself. There was a thousand kids at the pool. She plays by herself. She's in that imagination phase. And she's an only child.

I was an only child. So when I look at her, I know exactly what she's going through. I remember. You know what I'm saying? Like you think of how you had to dip into your imagination. Not that my parents were older, but my parents acted older and they wanted me to act older. They wanted me to have more responsibility. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I didn't have the luxuries a lot of kids have. You know, my mom was a little stern on me. So are you disinpling her yet? Or, like, I don't know even know when that starts. I don't even know how to fucking discipline. I can't discipline nobody. Really? I can't discipline a child.

I was telling, she's, I'm like a big brother. She fucking knows. She calls me daddy because of pepper pig. They call the guy Daddy Pig. You know what I'm saying? She don't fucking know. She thinks Daddy's a ride. She jumps on me and I carry her.

And, you know, when she's getting yelled up, by my wife, she runs to me. I'm like her fucking intermediary. I'm not a father yet. I don't even know what the fuck to do. I was watching the Sopranos, and that's when she had the party. And he drove her home. And she goes, what do you say to him? And he goes, I don't fucking know.

We love our kids. That's why kids are fucking spoiled. Because we don't want to say dick to them. What are you going to do? Anybody die? No. Anybody lose a nine, no. Then we're okay.

So what? They did some exosal. What do you want me to do? Jump up and down. You want me to be a hypocrite? You know? So I don't know what I don't know how to fucking parent I wouldn't know the first fucking step The only thing I know is how to give them love

That's all I know it's like my cats I know how to give them love I get mad at Dimmie I'll throw a fucking newspaper at that motherfucker But the rest of them can't handle it They can never handle it no Dimmie's a fucking street cat you know all of them are streetcats But some people can have I can never hit a child I don't know what I'm not asking you hit her but like Pick her up by the neck I don't know what that's like Almost like kind of what your parents are

did where it's like they're teaching you how to ask. Now hold on one second. Check with me in 12 years. You know what I'm saying? Check with me in 12 years. But at this point, I don't know what to fucking say, though. I don't, because I, I don't know. I just, I'm not even anywhere near, right?

But I've started thinking, like, you just start thinking about it. And I have, like, no, I, like, when she was running around and we had, like, your wife would be on one end and you'd be on the other just to, like, block her off from traffic. Every time she would get close to anywhere near the street, I started having a panic attack. Oh, I have panic attacks, but you have control them. Yogi Steve, what are you thinking? How are you doing, guys?

What's happening, my brother? I want to have him, 44. I'd like to have a kid one day, too, so I know you're 52, so you give me some serious hope, maybe one day. Move up a little bit. Yeah, sure, boss. Were you ever married, my brother? No, I've never been married, no kids, just, you know.

No, I was when I called you this afternoon was to ask you a really important question. Sure. I don't want to do it here, but I'm going to have to. Go for it. Do you mind if I call Yogi Steve on the podcast? You call me anything you want. What's your real name?

My real name is Stephen Tartar, like Tartar sauce. Okay. But Steve, Yogi, Steve. I just, that was my Facebook name. When we created our Facebook accounts, everybody wanted to keep their privacy. Maybe, oh, they're looking for me. But I've never really done anything. So, but that name kind of stuck.

So, yeah, you can call me whatever you like, Joey. Absolutely. I didn't know for sure. I didn't know if that was the name that our beloved. Because John Bud's been talking about you to me for a year. All right. And I'm going to say, you got the guys to get together. Because I've been selling him on the kettlebells.

Yeah, yeah. I've been bugging him on. You've got to get kettlebells at VMA. I'm psyched to be there. It's awesome. But it's a great way. It's a Tuesday morning. It doesn't get into anybody.

So I used to go to a class for kettlebells. And I was always intrigued by them. And then one night did, but any, you know, when you and I were growing up, we had to look at the fucking encyclopedia for information. That's right. That's right. And there's no kettlebells in that fucking Britannica. Didn't exist. But now you have any question at all, fitness, health, medication, something you're feeling.

You go online. So I went online at night and I looked into kettlebells. and it said that it was the number two exercise at the time for burning calories. I don't know. Every swing burns 20 or 2 or 18 or just something fucking amazing. And I know for Jiu-Jitsu, it's not about the bench press, but it's more about the explosiveness. Absolutely.

You know, pitchers have that explosiveness. You know, football players may get the ball off the line. That's what the swing is. And that's what the swing is, an explosive exercise. So I went down in and I started doing it first couple times. I thought it was going to have a fucking heart attack. When he made me do that The Turkish get up the first time

But he was like you You know Get up to an elbow Let's call it quick Yeah we don't want to hurt you It's a step thing You know Yeah

Now how did you get involved With kettlebell? It was pretty interesting Tell us I got a ridiculous long story I'll try to give it to you a short You know when I turned 40 I was overweight

And I realized I was basically Pre-diabetic I was waking up to go to the bathroom Three times a night I wasn't sleeping good My daily energy levels Were just for shit I was just basically tired

Now mind you I was smoking herb For 25 years Maybe that has something to do with it But, you know, I was always a yogi and into yoga, but I wasn't really training hard. So let's just say somebody owed me money, 100 bucks, and I knew I wasn't going to get it. And they said, hey, I got these two, I don't know what they are, like cannon balls with a handle on them. I'll give you these instead of the 100 bucks, knowing that I'm never going to get that 100 bucks from this guy. I was, sure, I'll take them.

So all I did with them was take them and walk them around Runyon Canyon Park. I lived right in Hollywood, and I started body fat just melted off of me. And something about the way it felt in my hand I really liked. So just like you said, I went online and I just Googled it, and I'm 100% self-taught, everything I've learned from just videos. I've done one-day seminar with an expert. But, yeah, so I started training with them, and I went from 188 pudgy, it's fat as fuck, all the way down to 155, like completely ripped. But now in the last four years, by using kettlebells and some barbell stuff because I like to deadlift and bench press and barbell squat, I built my way back up to the same I was when I was fat.

So now I'm 180 really lean and really strong and no longer pre-diabetic. So a lot of that's with diet too, but training's super important. And I just love kettlebells. They're good for you to get older because you don't have to use 300, 400 pounds to get a great effect. So you can take a 53-pound kettlebell, and it could be your tool for life. And it's a great combination of strength and conditioning. So it'll build muscle and help you burn fat. Now, it was really interesting.

Tonight, my wife's friend was working as an accountant. or something weird, and she quit her job and got a job as a control or something. Something in the same field, but not really. And she's getting paid 50 grand more. So she called my wife, and she asked my wife if it was weird that she was switching careers at that age. And my wife was talking to me about it. And I go, listen, in this economy, you know, when we were growing up, you were a mason for life. You know, you learned how to do masonry from your father.

You learn how to do construction. from your father and you took into it or whatever the fuck people are doing. Now the unions, you know, they barely exist. You know, it's a lot of the laborers and stuff. They're using, you know, non-union labor and all these shit, so it's tough.

But the point is that it was a really interesting story you told me. You used to be an online gambler. Yeah, yeah. And you made a living for eight years. How did you get involved on that? Well, let me tell you, most gamblers and they talk to you about poker

or any gambling, their success, they're basically just, they lie about it. Gamblers, they're compulsive, fucking liars. But I come from a gambling family. I used to go to Atlantic City when I was 13 years old. My mother used to sneak me in the casino while she played a blackjack. I would just fuck around. But I did start playing craps. I got into gambling, you know, all through high school and through college. And then at one point I discovered poker. And I learned, because I studied math in college, I studied accounting, basically. And then I discovered poker and I realized, oh, shit, I could be the house. I could have the advantage in this only game.

the casino. You really can't be craps, roulette, blackjack. So I got into poker. So my whole 20s were devoted to basically living in a casino. All I did was play live poker. Where were you living? I was living back east. I was living in Jersey. And you were hitting Atlanta City. Trump, I'd go to Taj Mahal. That was like my playground, basically, every weekend. I was actually teaching Taekwondo during the week. And on the weekends, I would go to play poker. And after a year of that, I was making more money playing poker. And that's how you become a professional poker player. You one day look at your money and you say, oh, I'm making more money playing poker than, you know, teaching Taekwondo.

How many nights a week were you playing poker? When I was playing like that, I would play for like, I'd only play on the weekends, but I'd play 50 hours over the course of three days. The most I ever played was 36 hours straight, live. Yeah, I was 25 young. You have unbelievable stamina at that age, you know. You're taking notes, fuck-all? Poker's the one I need, because I love blackjack.

Yeah, yeah. Well, as long as you can afford the losses, you can play any game you want. But, yeah, it's a sucker's game. It's not, you know, I'm, I got. lucky that I had whatever I needed to be good at poker. And then when poker came online, you know, I'm really like a pot smoker at heart, a pot-headed. So I'd like to be able to work out of my home, smoke up, and work. So once online poker became popular, I played that for a living for eight or nine years until they shut it down about four years ago, the government shut it down.

And I just wanted another business. So I just got into kettlebells, which was, you know, I like to make my hobbies into a job. And you're looking to somebody who's never really had a boss other than when I worked for my family business back when I was like 20. That's really impressive making your hobby, your job. It's super satisfying. I'm not rich from it, but I just absolutely love what I do. But you love what you do. And that's what not loving what you do is what puts people in hospitals.

It was killing me. I don't care what anybody tells you. And it catches up to you. It's like a slow finger in the ass when you have a small asshole and it's tight. It just drains you and you don't know what's draining you. Yeah, yeah. And you look around you. what happens. When you look around, you look at somebody who's

10 years old and they're like, I've been here for 30 years. You see the scars on this fucking soul and shit. You're like, I got to quit and people tell you you're crazy. You're making great money and, you know, but you're like, I don't want to fucking do it no more. It's funny because Lee wanted to be a professional game. And I was hoping by this time,

I'd be making 2-3 Gs just under 10% he was going to pay me. But he'd fucking leave. He wouldn't sweat it out. He'd lose and go on. You need a big bankroll. You've got a big bankroll. You've got millions under that mattress. You got Coogorans. You got those stocks and bonds.

You got more money than fucking God. What are you talking about? Were you trying to count at Blackjack? No, I'm not. It's not that I'm bad at math, but my mom was yelling at me about it today. If I don't like something, I don't put effort into it. I just don't. And I was decent in algebra, but not even really passable. Yeah.

So, like, that's the thing with, like, poker. For some reason, numbers don't really make sense. Like, they make sense, I can do basic math, but when you're trying to be like, okay, do plus one minus one zeros for every card that comes out and then also make sure no one sees you doing it. And still, it doesn't guarantee you're going to win. That's absolutely right. It's just, it's tough. Like, I've heard poker is the way to go. But then, I mean, how long did you put into it before you were good?

I was the degenerate gamble like anybody else. Marl but the first five years of playing it. I lost, you know, all the time, more than I won. But then I started reading books on poker. You have to read theory of poker. David Sklanski. These are all old school books. You got to read a Hold'em for Advanced Players by Mason Malmuth. I'm not promoting these guys. These are the old school poker authors. Nowadays, it's all available on the internet, but if you're not on discussion forums and talking about

hands with other really good poker players, you're not really a poker player. You're just a gambler. So I spent as much time studying the game as I did playing it. And then one day, you know, I couldn't beat the biggest games. I'd beat midstakes games. And I was very happy to make just a middle class living at it. I didn't have big dreams. But I saved up a real good bankroll. he's right. You need to have money behind you to gamble because God forbid you have a losing month. You know, you don't want to kill yourself. So once I had a bankroll,

I was off and I didn't do any. I always taught yoga, you know, but poker was always there. Just make sure you don't gamble with Joey around. He's the kiss of death. Fuck you. I put the yard stick up. I left you there because you were winning. And he walked away. I walk away because he's winning. I go, let me stake you.

You want to play? Let me change things. Let me have. Let me stake him. Yeah. I'll sit here for the 10 points and my money back. Sure. Let me stake him. I sat there. He was looking at the Vietnamese chick. And he was okay. All of a sudden, she sucked him in.

He was in Rambo, too, and I lost my yardstick. I don't know what the fuck happened. I torment him. You're lucky. I forgot all about him. I'm going to take it out of your check. First of all, it's a third. Ridiculous.

He fucking lost. I mean, like that. I turned around sneezed, and all of a sudden he's walking to me. Like, what happened? She took my money. You walked away. He got mad at me because I fucking walked away. Yeah, you never walk away when somebody's winning.

Okay. So you're in this for five fucking years losing. Now, you're still working at the textile business. At that time, I was actually teaching Taekwondo. So I've had a bunch of different jobs. At that time, it was a couple years out of college. I studied accounting and decided I didn't want to be an accountant. So I was teaching Taekwondo in my hobby, right?

But like I said, I started playing poker and I was just, I was just addicted to it, basically. I loved it. But then eventually, you know, once I could beat it, it became a job. But I was a degenerate like anybody else. I just lose my paycheck every freaking weekend. And it was depressing. I remember many times driving home from Atlantic City and taking my poker books

and throwing him in a garbage can, you know this shit, right, Lee? I did that, man. At a gas station. You're getting gas like, fuck, I'm not doing this anymore. And then two weeks later, you go buy the books again, and they're expensive books. I threw away all my players card on the street.

I went, I drove to Vegas to go for a weekend. I love it. It's in my blood. My dad's father was like a horse's guy. Yeah, yeah. But, like, I was going for a weekend. I checked in the hotel. I think I lost like seven or eight hundred bucks in like two hours

and I had like another night at the hotel but I just The one thing that saved me is that when I I always go to the ATM before I go to the casinos And I don't go to their ATMs because then I would be homeless Yeah, so I just that's I I take what I think I can lose and I still shouldn't have gambled But it's just I I threw away all my players cards yeah on the strip right by the fucking Denny's You're a gamble. I never had a player's card in my life. You know, that's for gamblers.

You know, I play poker. I don't play the other games. But a player's card, that means you've got a problem. Oh, yeah. Maybe. So you would go to Trump and get there at what time at night? I would leave a Friday, right, at the end of the work day. Okay, so you wouldn't go during the week?

You'd want to play on the weekends because that's when there's more tourists. During the week, it's more locals and kind of like degenerate gamblers that need to play every day. But on the weekends, you got people partying. And that's why when I go to Vegas, I don't go often, but I love to go to Vegas now, because that's the only time I really play poker now. And when you beat a tourist in a pot, they give you knuckles. They're having a good time. But when you beat a degenerate in a pot, like at Commerce Casino or in any place in Atlantic City,

they scowl at you, they're mad at you, they don't like you. And that's just a bad feeling, you know, over and over. Commerce is a scary place. I put a lot of hours in commerce. Don't like it, and I don't have any plans on going back. Have you been to Hollywood Park in England? Yeah, I spent a lot hours in Hollywood Park, too, because I would always just chase the best games I could find.

And poker wasn't always this big. You know, before Chris Moneymaker won the World Series in 2002, I had to, like, lie about what I was doing because poker was like a criminal thing. So, you know, back in the day, Hollywood Park, that is a dangerous casino. My girlfriend lived down the block from it. And I went once, and it's just...

Yeah, that's not a... You get the private parking if you can ever have to go there. But, yeah, yeah, I don't go to casinos anymore, though, so, you know. So now what year did this computer gambling come on? Early 2000s. Internet poker kind of came on the scene. And you were living here now? I was already in California.

I was already a yoga teacher for a long time. And yeah, so I was kind of right at the tail end of not going to casinos anymore. I couldn't take it. You know, this was before they made all the rooms non-smoking, too. So I would come home smelling a smoke. I don't smoke cigarettes. You know, I smoke a weed, but I don't touch tobacco. But you live in that casino.

It's all over you. But, yeah. So probably my early 30. was when Internet poker became really big, and I spent probably eight or nine years doing almost only that, but still always teaching yoga. And when we were teaching yoga in Hollywood, you're doing it up Running Canyon? Yeah, I'm known for one thing. Classes in Runyon Canyon.

We have donation classes. We've done it for 15 years. We actually have 23 classes a week. It's unbelievable. I used to teach one class a day for five years, at 10.30. And then I was actually starting making money playing poker, so I started recruiting my friends to teach for me, and we added other classes. So now it's not just me. We have four or five other real long-time professional yoga teachers,

and we have three or four classes a day, and they're always basically free. But they're really by donation, and people are, even with the economy bad, people are still generous, and you give us a couple bucks. The classes are big enough, and everybody's happy. But, yeah, but playing on poker stars, I was a sit-and-go-maniac.

I'd play 24 tables at a time. On the computer. I would actually hook my computer up to, like, a big-screen TV like you got here. And I'd play with an Xbox controller. I wouldn't use my keypad. because I couldn't go fast enough, but with an Xbox controller, you can manipulate the table with one hand, check call, raise. I actually got arthritis in my hands and elbow from gaming. It's crazy.

Holy shit. Yeah. And it's all over now. What were you making a year on the computer? Not a lot. Middle class living. I never want to give it any numbers, just because whatever, but there's a little bit of gray market thing. But a middle class living.

Never getting rich, never really saved money in my life, saving a little bit. But it's a nice middle class living. And then you wake up one day, and it was going to be. on. You know, the government should. And you can't play anymore online? If you ask people who don't know, they'll tell you that, sure, you can play. But in order to have a game that you can make a living off of, you need to have the whole world or at least multi-millions of people playing, because you've got to play a lot of games at the smaller, I play a lot of games at the smaller stakes to make a living, you know, to make a wage. Now, you know, the best we're going to have, I think maybe California

will legalize it and we have about 40 million people here. So that's a good player pool for online poker. But it was better when it was, you know, seven billion people in the whole world. could go on there. I could play games any time day or night. So it's never going to, it's never going to be like it used to be. Online poker was basically like the old, like the Wild West. It's just never going to come back like that. But it'll come back in some form and hopefully the government will regulate it because we want to be regulated. We want to pay taxes almost up front. But, you know, to whatever reason. Now once they stopped the legalized gamble, the online gambling, what did you do? What was

your next step? For gambling, for poker wise. Oh, I stopped. I didn't want to go back to the casino. I tried to go back to casino, but I just, I couldn't deal with the people in the L.A. Casinos, you know. And I love California. Like, I love L.A. I love Hollywood. But the people in the casinos, they're rough. Because it's not, I don't even know how to put it. It's not totally legal here. It's like kind of weird. There's no slots. Yeah, well, I can tell you what it is. And you have to pay, it's like skill games or whatever. What is this? It's player back games. Games where the house takes a percentage of the pot are legal, but you can't play a regular game of blackjack where the house gets the winning. So in poker, if we're all playing together and a pot happens, I get your money, your money, and the house takes a tiny percentage. That's legal.

But they can't run a blackjack game where they just play regular blackjack. And if you lose, you lose it to the house. So that's the type of gambling that's legal in California. And then it's just, it's like, people get, it's like the opposite of jiu-jitsu. People get really upset, especially because I like blackjack, because it's simple for me to understand. They have blackjack in L.A.? Yeah, but like when I was playing a commerce, you had to pay a dollar a half. hand to go in, but now there's

companies who do that for you and they take the winnings, I guess. I don't really know how it works. But, like, if you do, if you don't follow the, like, the way you're supposed to play, like, hit on the Sanders Day, I've seen people get yelled at. In Vegas, it's not as bad. Like, I've been at the table. I got yelled that.

I didn't know what I was doing. I had no fucking idea. Really, got yelled at? In Vegas, I've seen some guy get drunk and just, like, some guy was like, hey, you shouldn't do that. And then he did it again. So everyone literally just left. but I've never seen anyone get yelled at in Vegas that's too bad I'm sorry about that

No no no I was young I was in Vegas I didn't know what I was doing I still I vote There's two things that I've always baffled be about me Because I'm a fucking criminal Listen if I wasn't doing comedy I'm a criminal I do

I stand-up comedy I act and I do podcast And I write a little bit So that's four things When I was a criminal My strengths where I love booking Because I could lure a motherfucker I love stealing drug dealers, robbing drug dealers.

You know, I like that shit. There was things that were my forte. I'll tell you what, two things were never my forte. Drinking alcohol. I don't know why. Doesn't agree with me from the jump street. And gambling. I grew up in a gambling house.

I saw my mother blow thousands on the fucking Yankees and the fucking Red Sox and everything. O-T-B. You know, O-T-B. you know, OTB is no different than the casinos in L.A. from what I've seen. O.T.B. was off-track betting in New York City. Have you gone to OTB?

I don't think I've ever been in, but I've heard it's like just a dirty place where they take bets. What I used to do is take the bus on the 78th. I'd get off Puerto Taurus, and I'd walk down to Amsterdam, buy weed, eat Cuban food. You know what I'd do for two hours when I was 21 years old? I'd go to O.T.B. Sit there stone and watch. And once I saw the Marlon Brando biography, and he was talking about how he would sit there in a phone booth in New York City, close the phone booth, and make believe he was on the phone, old school, when he had the phone boots that closed, and he'd watch people. I was never so baffled by what I saw at the OTB thing.

People shooting coke, people fist fighting. They were fucking animals. Animals. These are people. This is the lowest line of gambler, because they don't even have time to go to. aqueduct. They don't even have time to go to fucking Belmont Stakes. They don't have time to go to Las Vegas.

They're just going to Commerce Casino. They don't give a fuck about the frills. They're just animals. They're just animals. Horse racing is it's not, I don't know if it's scary, but it's, you meet really interesting people. I was just sitting down, things like at the Golden Nugget

and this old guy, hammered drunk just came up saying next to me for like 30 minutes, and we'd be looking at the races and he would just be calling, he called every single, like literally like seven or eight races in a row. He called the winner, but he was hammered drunk and probably had no money because he lost, he lost all of it. But like, that's what my grandfather did. My grandfather went to the track.

Every day. Probably everything, yeah. He's father goes every day. He's 92 since he retired at 61. He goes to the track every day. When the metal lands is moved to somewhere else, that's the only time he doesn't go down there. How much does he do a day? These guys are smart.

Listen, when I got, I fucking had to walk home from the Middlelands one day, Yogi Steve. And I was up 800. I had to walk back to North Bergen from the Meadow. And those cars are doing 90 from me. You know what I learned from that lesson? Only go to the track with $40. And when it's gone, it's gone. And that 40 has to include your clam chatter and your couple beers.

Because at the Meadow, they got good red clam chattah. But two things that are bad for me. Okay, the drinking, I get. Some people can't do everything. but the gambling is the one that till this day I go how many times we're in Vegas Lee and we're fucking sitting there like two jerkops sitting there going I want to do this

I'm going to do that at the end of the week what do we do we don't do dick we don't do fucking dick right or the ones we did like we're going to lose anyway like after the fights remember we went there all the time sports betting is like it's the worst because you especially baseball because there's so many games and the games are so freaking long think about basketball fucking football and now Listen, when Steve and I were young men, it was Saturday college and Sunday pro and Monday night football.

That's it. All of a sudden they got cute and they added Sunday night at 8 o'clock. They would just play with it on Sunday nights every four or five weeks. Then they kept that. Then ESPN started Thursday night college football. And when it's not college, it's fucking, it's football. It's college. It's pro.

Now they have pro. Pro on Thursday. So, you know, I always looked at it as on Thursday is when they go get Jesus and they drag them and they bit slap them. Then Saturday, how many college games you got? For every college games you got, Jesus gets a kick to the fucking stomach. There's got to be 80 fucking college games. That's Saturday. And then Sunday, day, early game, 11, that's the fucking nail.

The other nail is the 4 o'clock game. Then the family game is the nail through the head. And then the fucking Monday night game is a game. a stab through the heart and Jesus was dead. That's what they do to the American gambler without them even knowing it. What's Monday night? It's college basketball night. Two games. Every Monday

not on the ass band. Those double-headers. Who do you think stays up and watch those? Yeah, 50% of them are fans. But the other 50% are degenerate fucking gambling. Because it feels so good when you win and you always win one of the first times you go, you're going to leave. Like that's why I want back.

Oh yeah, you're going to always win the first three fucking times. That's how they suck in. It's like fate sucks you in. Well, I guess either you guys have never been to a GA meeting. You've never seen what that looks like. It's all many, many, it's like half online poker players, half old dudes hooked on sports betting because of that long sweat. You know what the sweat is?

Like the buildup? That's why people like it. That's why people like sports betting. But it's even harder to beat them poker from what I understand. So if you can afford it, do it. So the sports betting, what is it? It's worse than poker? It's one of the things you probably, you could do for a living,

professionally, but so few people do it. Very few people make a living in poker and even less people make a living in sports. Yeah, that'll shut your life. That was the first... Growing up, it was the track with my mom and the Yankees in baseball. And there was something about losing. I didn't like it. Numbers were always safe.

I put $5 on a number. I won't fucking $2,500. I lose, I lose $5 and I move on. When I was in the eighth grade, me and Witee O'Donnell used to bet $25 games, five times. Five times in the Knicks. And then they put Phil Jackson in, I have a fucking heart attack. Because when they put Phil Jackson in, that means the game was over.

God damn it. Good night, Whitey. Good night, this motherfucker. And we would lose 15 a piece a week or 22 a week. And then I forgot all about gambling. And then my buddy, Jimmy Bender, turned me on to the sheets. He sat me down at Mr. Biggs and Hoboken. Oh, yeah, yeah.

And showed me how to do the betting slips. Maybe that was in the eighth grade team. What are betting slips? The sheets, the college sheets. with the college football on top and the pro football on the bottom. So let's say you put, you got to go four for four to win any money. Oh, parlay. So parlay cards.

So it's a dollar for four for four, you get six bucks. Who needs six bucks? Right. I don't want six bucks. I'm going to go 13 for them. They love those. That's like giving your dollar away. You can bet in, in, I don't know if it's Nevada or Vegas,

talking later was showing me. They have an app now on your phone where you can sports bet anywhere, just from anywhere now. and it's scary. Like it's, and... Will you give them a credit card? Probably. Or you have, maybe you have like a key startup out of an account.

Well, they have online casinos now, like Bavada and all that stuff. But it's crazy. And that's the thing that stopped me from doing it is the older gamblers always have stories of... Like this one guy, when I went to the UFC with you, I stood at a different hotel. This guy was complaining to the dealers that the sports book, wouldn't take his bet like five minutes before and of course the team had won

and it's just it's always like oh if this one hand had gone differently yeah well those fucking guys just pathetic fucking losers there's guys that just you know if I would have made it I called fucking Yogi Steve he didn't answer the phone

fucking he should give me the fucking money you know there's always those jerkoffs you know I didn't do anything else all through high school people I did whatever I went to the track with Jimmy Bendis father from time to time, shit like that, but it wasn't. It was, I moved in with this Puerto Rican kid named Fernie Basasuto. I love Fernie until this day. We don't talk no more. He's mad at me

for 30 years from that time. And I got to tell you something, Steve. And I think back, that October to that February was possibly one of the funniest times of my life. And I was gambling my ass off. And we would bet every nightly, 40 times. So 10 times is what? 50? Yeah. 200 a game. Four 40 times and two 40-time palais. That's like just fucking yourself in the ass. Wait, you have to win 40 games? You have to win two games.

Each game is 40 times, it's 200. So two games is 800, right? No, it's 400. And then I bet a 40-time palet, which a 10-time palet is 70 to win 130. I thought you said you didn't like gambling. I don't even know this stuff. This is serious degenerate gambler stuff.

This is one I was. This is my running. So me and Fernie would gamble during the week. And I know Timmy's going to listen to this in a lap, because me and Fernie were fine until one day, me and these other guys stinky, would gambling. And Fernie was listening. And Fernie, this poor Puerto Rican kid was like,

like you ever see when somebody, it's like when that person asked about heroin for the first time and you're in the room, and they should freeze that and show it them 10 years later and see what that question asked? Like, I'll never forget Fernie at Joan, Mary still looking at me and stinking going, what's this gambling you guys do?

Fernie was no five beta capa. Fernie was no five beta capa. He was big. You should have seen the size of this kid. Naturally. Naturally. From 16 to summer from 16 to 17, he didn't leave the house. All he did was behind the necks,

front of the necks, squats and bench five sets of six with a thousand pounds and he ate Cuban food. You have no idea what happens when you just eat black beans and rice. and steak every night. Fernie was a sweetheart. And Fernie, I remember him asking this.

And as he's asking me, I'm like, this guy doesn't know what he's getting into. And sure enough, he started getting the paper, and he started throwing his, no, he didn't throw a bet, and you're ready for this, he waited. And his first bet, I still remember. Pittsburgh against Seattle, and somebody against somebody else.

First game, he won big. First bet he ever put in. How much was the first time you put in a bet? What was the size of it? My first bet was small. I played craps for the first time in Atlantic City when I was 13. My first bet was $5 with $10 behind it. How about you?

Probably Blackjack. Oh, I remember, I went down to visit my dad, I think. It was either my dad in Florida at the Seminole Hard Rock or up here in Vegas. I forget, but it was like I was paying at most $15 hands. Fernie's first bet on the phone was $1,000. A parlay. $1,000. $1,000 fucking dollars.

When he told me that I go, hold on one second. I had to talk to Timmy's death. Timmy, you're not going to believe this on stage. He wants to put $1,000. He put $1,000 on a game. It was a parlay. So he had to win two games, guys. So now the first game wins,

and we're excited. I come in and I go, Fernie, do you win? Yeah, yeah, and I bet that first game. But the second game, he bet was Pittsburgh, Seattle. Pittsburgh was giving Seattle three points. He took, at the end of the first quarter, Pittsburgh was winning 28-0.

We both just went to sleep. I felt so bad for him. He woke up. Seattle came back and beat Pittsburgh, 29-28, with a minute left to go on the game. Fernie won a thousand-dollar parlay. So how much did he win, like $10,000? Like, what's 10 times 140? 14,000.

And he was even more. It was even more. It was way more. It was way more. And Mr. A. said, come down and pick up the money on Sunday night. I never forget that. It must have been 9 o'clock at night.

I still remember he had a leather jacket on. And he goes, what do you want to do? This is the first bet he put in. I go, let's go to Piccolissimo up in Fort Lee. And let's get a fucking lobster fraud, Diablo. You ever had lobster fraud, Diablo? No, no, sir. No, no.

He goes, I never had lobster. We're 18. This kid never had a fucking lobster. I take him up there. They bring a finger bowl to dip, the fingers and wash it. I'll never forget he picked it up in January. I fucking never, you know,

he had never been, but to make a long story short, Fernie and I went on a run that started that October and it was me, Fernie, Stanky, it was our little crew, and it was every night, Yogi Steve, every night. And then that's when me and another friend of ours, Gerard,

had to go down to Hudson County Park and mug gay guys. That's what we used to have to do, set up fucking gay. This is crazy. This is 1982. I'm 19 years old. I just got high school. Guys, I got nothing going on. And I'm in a bar gambling.

I'm selling drugs. I'm working for a bookie in the daytime's doing numbers on 118th Street. This is fucking crazy. And I am a fucking degenerate. And I'm losing every week. Every Thursday, I got to give this fucking guy $700. And you know when I made it? Wednesday nights.

Like, I'd be dead broke. I didn't have $700 for nobody. I was just living on fumes. Degeneric gambler lies, ducking, Owned sharks. We borrowed money from this fucking... And I got into such a fucking hole with the bookies. Fernie was all...

By that time, Fernie, I think lost $50,000 on the Super Bowl. Miami Dolphins against the Killer Bees. Whoever the Killer Bees played in 82. Miami against somebody. He bet... With the Redskins! The Redskins! He bet his whole bankroll,

plus he sat on everybody's action. He lost everything. That kid had to go get... He had to go work for his father from six. to two, and then he pumped gas from 4 to 12. He did that for eight months to get himself out of the hole. Wow. Jesus.

That was the biggest lesson, and I remember that I owed his bookie. Like, I think I lost like two grand, and I gave the bookie $1,200. I'm like, I'm not giving him another dollar. I think I lived in Edgewater, and I owed the bookie 800, and I split to Colorado, and Fernie paid his $40,000 to the guy. But when he owed him $800, he goes, I'm not giving you the last $800. Coco didn't pay you, get it from Coco, and then I'll pay you the 800 again,

because I don't even want it. You paid me $40,000, who don't care about, $800 fucking. That was the most horrible thing I witnessed. He didn't even talk. Like the last month or two, I lived with him. He didn't even talk. He was just shattered.

He had to go to his dad. His dad had to borrow money from a bank. And he was 19. This was his introduction. And I bumped into him in years later. You know what he told me? he never wants sports again. That's what I wanted to know is what happened to the guy.

Never wants sports. That's fantastic then. You know what? That's a win. Because a lifetime of gambling and losing like that's more expensive. And you know what I tell you something? He never recovered from that as a Because after that while he was doing that he was selling blow

But he would cut his Coke so much It was like doing uh we used to torture. I used to torture him that sheet rock. The sheet rock dust you wouldn't be able to talk. After you did his Coke, he'd say, how is it? You're like, because your mouth would stick the fuck together. And from there, he got on heroin, and he never really recovered. He's not even on Facebook, but his little brother's on Facebook.

And I talked to him very lightly, and I apologize to the brother when I lived with him on my behavior. And he goes, hey, your mom had just died. I couldn't imagine. And about a month ago, he posted pictures of Fernie, and Fernie don't look too good. He don't look too fucking healthy. But that was my sports betting thing. I never really fucked around with sports because of Fernie, and I just didn't like what it did to me.

It made me stupid. It made me fucking stupid. I remember a snowstorm, a big snowstorm in 83. I mean, three feet of snow in Jersey, and you couldn't get the newspaper. In those days, you couldn't go online and get the lines. You lived off the daily news. The Post made their own lines, but the Daily News were the original lines from Vegas that morning. So this is 30 years ago, guys.

Don't quote me on this. 1982. So I remember that time when, I remember just picking out the phone and calling the booking going, what are you got? And him reading the things to me and me telling them the bets. And I remember one of the bets I made on that snowy fucking February, March night, whatever the fuck it was, was like Iona giving Ithaca like 49 points, like a game that nobody was watching, you know? And Warner Wolf, do you remember who Warner Wolf was? Of course. He was a sportscaster in New York. I swear to God, Lee.

I'm at a bar. I got a couple bumps in me. I'm getting 49 points, Lee. Who gets 49 points on a Friday night college basketball game and loses? 49 points I'm getting, Lee. So for people who don't know, that means you could have lost by anything

other than, like, less than 49 points. You would have won. If they would have beat us 49 to 1, I would have fucking covered the spread. Okay? Now it's a Division 2 basketball game. It's a 49 point spread. It's Friday night.

I'm at a bar with three or four my guerrilla buddies. We fronted a couple of grams of blow. We're drinking on the tab, like fucking broke. And Warner Wolf comes on the sports thing. And he goes, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. If you had Iona in the 49, you're still a loser. That's what he said. That's exactly what his words were.

I don't know if it was Iona. It was something like Holy Cross, getting 49 at home. It was like a, what are he? call those colleges, Harvard? Ivy League. It was like an Ivy League. It was like an Ivy League. I'll never forget that's what he opened up with. That's how much of a loser I was. I was getting 49 points and still, and then I had one last score. I had this bookie I was going to rob. I had to go give him 800, and he opened

up a fucking closet in front of me, Yogi Steve. Okay, a linen closet and the fucking tops were a $100 bills, the middle of 50s. It was all the way down. It was like a cash register in his wall. In my mind, that mother's, The fuck I didn't know he was going down. He was going down one way or another. And I fucking cased that guy for three weeks. I had my buddies line.

I had a plane ticket ready to go. I was going to rob him, go do an A-ball, and go right to Newark Airport. And my hand got caught in the fucking Bob wire right there behind Safeway supermarket. And it ripped that way. And that way the shit was coming out of my hands. They said I'd never moved my fucking fingers again. I left my glove on. and I went to the bar that night

and drank and did blow with my fucked up hand I didn't go to the hospital to the next fucking day. That was my... This is all my gambling shit. This is why I don't gamble. So it cost me six months of my life of nothing but frustration

going to bed thinking that you're broke and you have to get up and pay this guy next day and you have to give him the money by 2 o'clock. Do you think it's a better feeling when you win or a worse feeling when you lose? Which is stronger? Because there's nothing greater than winning but losing it just get to...

immediately. If you know anything about me, you know I've read about it over the years and it's like a psychological thing. Like this, you know who was it degenerate gambler,

John Gotti? But they said his gambling got to the point where he was, you know, he couldn't live a day without telling you how much he lost.

It becomes an addiction to lose after a while. Jesus. You just go, and I can't, but one of the hardest things ever in my life, listen, Lee,

tell these people, am I cheap? No. I don't give a fuck about money. But I tell you what I do give a fuck is when I work for my money,

and I gotta go give it to a bookie. If I'm selling blow and I'm mugging bitches and I'm robbing drug deals, I don't give a fuck. The money comes, that's part of doing business. That's a street fake. That's just somebody I'm paying so if something ever goes down,

he knows I'm solid. He'll have my back. But besides that, if I'm working, if I got to get up at 8 in the morning and go work, I'm going to give my money to a fucking bookie on a Thursday night, you're fucking crazy. Screw that. You're fucking crazy.

What do you think, Steve? Was it better when you won or worse than the loss? When you play a lot, even if you're a winning player for a long period of time, I think what universally happens is is that the losses hurt more and the wins you kind of just expect to win, so you don't really get much pleasure from him anymore. It's always good to make money, but it almost becomes just like a regular business,

but the loss is always hurt. And even if you're a winning player, you're going to lose at least 40, 45% of the time you sit down to play, you're going to lose. So that's your life, like losing almost half the time, but still eeking out a win. So, yeah, gamble for fun or gamble because you win. But, you know, it's good that you don't do it anymore.

People have told me the way to do it is to like, and you've told me too, is to find one game or wait until a table at blackjack is hot and go. Because, like, when I go to Vegas with Paula, we stayed at the Trump last time because if I wake up at the room in the morning, I'll go down and play. And the more times you play, you're more willing to lose. You're more likely to lose. Like that's why there's this one dealer at the Venetian, this black lady who it's like she's on speed. She just doesn't stop.

So the more hands you play, that's why the smaller decks are better because they have to shuffle and there's less time. There's less hands. So that's essentially what I've been told. We had this discussion two weeks ago. We discussed your friend that you got an astrologer. Oh, yeah. Okay. If you know anything about life, it's peace and valleys.

You know, God bless you, if you, from 21 to 6. 65, you make 100,000 a year. God bless you in his life. You're going to have bad gears, you're going to have good years. Here's my philosophy on gambling. You hit big, you walk the fuck away. Who walks away, Steve? Well, you know what? If you're winning, you want to stay and keep

winning, but you should kind of say, look, I'm up $3,000 now. If I slip back to two, that's good, I should leave. But what if that happens in the first 25 minutes? That's not the way people gamble. So you just got to bring money you can afford to lose and just hope for the best and, you know, try to enjoy it. When you play poker,

Yeah. It's a fucking long journey, and you're hoping for, it's a, it's a marathon. It's called a grind for a reason. And I consider myself a grinder in the way I eat and train. Everything I do, it's about just chipping away small edges. You know, I've been never greedy as a poker player. I just didn't want to win all the money. I just wanted a little from you and a little from you, a little from the other guy. But it's still a grind no matter what.

It becomes a work. But, you know, at the highest level, it's the dream job, I'm sure. You know, if you're these guys that are famous for it, you know, Phil Ivy and Tom Dwan. Do you watch it on TV? It's funny you ask. I started watching again recently because I really learned by making VH tapes of before TiVo and everything of, you know, Roll Poker Tour. They're scumbags. I had every episode like memorized.

But anyhow, I learned from TV and I still, you know what? I think you got to be highly intelligent to be one of those dudes. Not the poker players, the people who produce the show. I believe it. I believe it. Yeah. I don't know much about that. For people who don't know when you're in TV,

or movies. The best thing, you want to work a union gig. And that's a union gig for editors, which is really rare. And when I left, for assistant editors, they were, union is 1800, I think, something like that, a week. They wanted to pay $8.95 a week, which isn't even what a PA makes. Well, yeah, well, TV poker is not what it used to be. It's a very small little niche now. But yeah, I've been watching it, and it's pretty good, man. These kids are amazing at like 25. they understand the game almost pretty much, you know, at an unbelievable level, and they're fun to watch play, but, you know.

I never had the patience to sit. That's all that. I got invited to a couple poker things early, and I went and like, huh, I was like, okay. So now what? I'm here an hour, and I've got to keep fucking sitting there.

And hours and nothing. It's shit going on out there. I got to go. That's the other thing that I'm even getting bothered about sometimes lifting, like being inside. Like, I don't know. Come to the park. We'll train at the park.

Yeah, I was always an outside guy. That's what saved me about games. Like, I've never, as a challenge, I played Monopoly a few times. Once, you got Park Place and the other, what's the high level one? The boardwalk empire and the other one. I'm done. I never got a hotel in my life. Before people started getting hotels, I abandoned shit.

You know, I was never, uh... I never once finished a game of Monopoly until this year, and it wasn't even real Monopoly. It was Pugmanop. Pug monopoly, what the hell is that? With pugs? Yeah, my girlfriend got it for her birthday. Oh my God. She likes pugs.

It's a monopoly board with pug faces on it. Very nice. It's just, when people, I didn't know this about you. It's always been very intriguing to me when you said you made a living for eight years. I give a professional gambler a lot of props because I tried to do it. I didn't even know where the fuck to start and where the fuck to end. I wish I had the time to go skis. out football teams and make believe I knew what I was doing to cut the percentages even low.

But you and I all both know that. Yeah. I don't know. There's just something to it. You have such a varied life. You're into so much. I can't believe how much do you tell me how you're traveling for working everything and working all day. When you're into poker and you make a living at it, that's all you do.

But now with kettlebellying and training, that's all I'm focused on. So that's all I do now, too. So I want to know how you got rid of this gambler thing. You had living inside of you. I know. Well, it's, you know, because you don't fucking get rid of it to kettle. Because it was already a job by time it was over, by time they turned it off basically in 2011, I was already like just going to a job.

And the first couple weeks when it was over, it was like, ah, this is great. It felt like vacation. And then until you realize it's not coming back. So, yeah, I mean, it just, I got lucky, I guess, because I think most gambler's stories are not good. Not good. And I'm friends with all these guys. And, you know, they're also like on Facebook not looking well. Some guys escape it.

Some guys don't. But, you know. we'll see if it comes back online. I'm happy to play there again, but I'll play in Vegas one day. We'll go whenever you're ready. That's the one place I like to go to. Ari was a big poker player for a while.

He would go to those daytime tournaments. Yeah, yeah. I think of L.A. casinos and stuff. And he got away from it. You know, he got so busy with comedy and the whole thing that you just, like you said, it's got to be, I guess him and his buddy, my old agent used to go to Vegas and do the tournaments for the weekend. Yeah.

I admire you guys. That's why I'm asking you all these fucking questions. I appreciate it. I have good memories of the game. And it taught me a lot, actually, about life because you get used to not winning every time you do everything. But hopefully, if you win a little more than you lose, then you're a winner. But, yeah, it's, no, I really appreciate that. That was a fun time, you know. Hey, I'm going to have a game at my place. You can play $25 at max, total buying, and I'll teach while we play. I don't have an idea what you say when you say buying.

I know that it goes around. You won't lose more than $25. You say check. I forgot about that. For like six months, my high school buddies and I had a poker night every, like, and I don't think I ever won once. I was, because it's just, like, correct me if I'm wrong, but you probably know every possible hand you could have and what you're supposed to do with that hand. When there's a full table of players with eight or nine people, 90% in my decisions will usually be like completely automatic because you've just seen that situation many times. Maybe 10% of them, you've got to think for a couple moments.

So, yeah, we're a little, but the thing is you can still be. a good player because there's a lot of luck involved and the weaker players win all the time that's why people love poker You know on the on TV where it says like the percentage You have a chance of winning? Of course yeah, yeah Do players know that when they're playing

They're like roughly like I have like a one in ten chance of winning? Yeah usually we look at it as like either a coin flip 50-50 You know a pair versus two over cards something like that Or we know that if one guy's got Ace King of like it's Ace Queen We're about like three to one meaning like one at every four times will get lucky and beat that hand. Oh, okay. But those stats are not that important because it's all about if the money's all in

and the cards are turned up, that's tournament poker, remember? Real live poker, that doesn't happen too often because in a tournament, once you're out of chips, you're out of chips, but in a regular game, like in a casino that's not a tournament, 90% of poker is regularly cash games. You go into your pocket, you do can't go, you go bust, you get more. So that's like real cash poker. Tournament poker's different because you're all in a little more frequently, so that's why they show those stats.

but if you want to learn how to play and learn the actions without having to go to a game, just go to Pocerstars.net and play for free. Not promoting them, but A, PokerStars, I used to love you guys. But you never lost any money when that play shut down due to the shutdown. We got our money out easily. I used to play Poke on the Soprano webpage.

If you go to HBO.com and you go to Sopranos, it's still up. Is it really? It's still up. Go look. You can learn on that. You can learn the actions. I would play out.

They start you with 10 grand. And I got it up to 6. a couple times, but I knew in my head I wasn't ready for no fucking casino, you know? Yeah. The thing I enjoyed the most about Gamma, I got to be honest with you, it's the characters that I've met. And I've forgotten all of them now. But I was giggling here when you were telling you, you know, you're from Jersey, I'm from

Jersey. You know, there's some stuff that only happens in Jersey. Atlantic City, baby. I was never in Atlanta. You know, I didn't go to Atlanta State until the first time. That's great. Maybe 10 years ago with Jimmy Burkle. We lived down the shore.

He's dead now. God bless his soul. We went to his house. And also, he goes, let's just go to Lansett and eat crab legs. It was like a Tuesday. Empty. I don't know where we went. It was all you could eat crab legs. And then I got a call from Linda Roe to drive up to Connecticut.

I had like five and do a gig at 8 o'clock. I was headlining. And I remember driving all the way to Connecticut, some boars head. And then I went with Roe. one time to do the Borgata, and everybody kept telling me, oh, wait till you go to the Borgata. It's beautiful. That place sucked.

I could smell Cologne in my room. Once I smell Cologne in my room, that's the end of the fucking party. Is it still up? I can't find it, no. But I am also high. HBL.com? Uh-oh. Yeah, no, I looked at it.

Wow, they used to have it, and that's out. But one night I'm in a Jersey bar. I'm 19. I'm a complete loser. I'm drinking on a tab. I'm gambling, you know, I'm Jonesing for a line, I'm just waiting for a pigeon to come in, and this kid comes in this bussinich kid,

and he's a big kid, he's older than me, he played basketball, and he brought in a guy that was bigger than him, you know, and I'm just sitting there, they said hello, I said hello, and all of a sudden the guy I lived that came in, his name was Mike Runny, he was hell on wheels, and he had a black eye. When somebody comes into a bar in Jersey and they already have a black eye,

it's going to be a good night, and he gives me a bump in the bathroom, them, we're out. I never forget, we're drinking bud cans. You know, and all of a sudden Bush and Mitch, they're talking about gambling. And Mike's aggravated and they're fucking pissing. And Mike's tough as nails.

And they're pissing them off. They're pissing them off. They're pissing them off. They're pissing them off. And they're talking about how good a gambler's there. And he goes, so how the fuck are you guys good gamblers? And this butch and this guy goes in his pocket. This Bushnich goes in his pocket and gives Mike this fucking thing that you, remember in the 80s? You get these things in the mail that you could open up.

It was like a map. And when you got it, it was maybe the size of this league. But, like, they had them for exercises and shit. So you could take them to the gym. So it would be something small, but you could open it up. And it became like this fucking map. And it was Kyle Rote Jr. And I'll never forget that.

And it was his assistant to gamble. Right? How to become a millionaire with his simple steps. Oh, man. And my buddy, Mike, opens it up and looks on his, like, Kyle Rode Jr. Now, Mike wasn't tight with these guys. It's like going to a bar for the first time

and meeting those guys at the bar and just talking. And all of some, Mike's looking at him. He goes, this is fucking garbage. And he just throws the paper with the guy's face. The guy jumped over, Mike threw a Budweiser can out of him, and exploded and shit. I think I was on acid. That's right. I was on acid because that's what...

I remember going home going, when you hit him with the Budweiser can and it blew up, that was the end of the fucking... I couldn't even breathe after I was laughing so hard. The kid went down. The kid, he was with, went down just on purpose. You know, like when your friend just goes down. Oh, my God, I got hit.

No, you didn't. He just went down, and we just ran the fuck out of the next day. He went back, and Lila busted our balls. Where's Tony Bennett? Cucksucker, you're a man, this thing. Happy birthday, Tony Bennett. You're like fucking 90, and you're still slinging dick. I went to see that Amy Winehouse thing, and he's in that.

And she's telling them how she's nervous. And he just calms it down. You guys ambush me with these edibles, huh? You like these, huh? Yeah, it's going to be a good story coming on this show, that's for sure. Let me tell you something. You got to eat this Cordova edible over that one. You're not eating anything else.

You ready for a Cordova li? No. Just a little bite. It says 10 doses on there, by the way. All right, fine. What the fuck. Take like a tiny bite. A little tiny bite.

I'll take it time. Look at that. Right there. This is a ceremony. It's a party, fellas. This is a celebration. For what? It's Monday. You lived another fucking day. How many times you get up in the morning to say, thank God he gave me another fucking day. Guy doesn't know how to take a small bite.

That's good. He's a soldier. Yeah. Fucking, who's better than you? No, I really appreciate this gambling stuff because I've always been baffled. Why today I don't pick up the phone and put a sports bed in? Why? It's a really tasty chocolate weed.

Yeah, it is. It is pretty good. Last time we ate this, we've seen the fucking devil. It was a thousand. We split a thousand milligrams. This company makes a thousand milligrams. Why would you make a thousand milligram edible for fucking gorillas like myself?

Mr. Salliat, you know his dad's coming on Wednesday? We're getting fucked up all weekend here in this fucking place. I'm getting an extra load of stuff. When you take this type of dose, you don't wake up tired of the morning, you wake up fresh and ready to go, so it fucks me up pretty good. I call him up at 801. He's a Marine. He's a Jewish Marine.

You understand me? coffee? He's on drink big. Good for you. Well, I drank way too much that soda. That's bad. Yes, it is. Sometimes I feel a little bit high still in the morning, but it's a lot better than being hung over. No, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, for sure. No, I do a lot of it. I eat a lot of it. I know. When I split the thousand milligrams, I'm cute. That's fucking crazy. I was in my kitchen. He ate Tettlini that was expired. It was not true. The last time I gave him good edibles, he went to get wholesale sushi

in Laurel Canyon. He got sick all over. his apartment. Oh my God, I was having cold sweats litting up against my fridge. It was like the breaking bad scene where Walt's like passing out or whatever. I was having cold sweats. My mind was, I don't even remember what I was thinking about and I just puked into my trash.

It helped, but I puked three times off edible, but not in the last couple of years I haven't puke. It was weird. Since the banana bread. Really? Really? I was the last time I barked had to unchannel it. I had to pull over. The water was green. People were beeping at me. me, I didn't go by the tree. I just opened my car door and started barfing. Old

school jersey style. If I'm puking, you're watching. It was weird, though, at the live podcast, he gave me a third one, and it just kind of, like, turned off. Have you ever gotten too high, and it just stopped getting you high? Yeah, I mean, I got to a point where I smoke enough for weed doesn't basically work anymore. Well, not even that. Like, I've taken some edibles that I think my body is, like, it's like a safety mechanism. It knows that I could die from it. So it just stops. I think people have been trying to kill themselves with weed for millions of years,

however long, right? And it's never happened. So you can get extremely sick, but it's virtually guaranteed you won't die, but I don't want to feel that sick. One fucking idiot that just happened. What, somebody? In Colorado, this idiot jumped off the, out of a balcony with 10 million. That's his brain that killed him.

Yeah, it was somebody predisposed to it. I won't, you know, that's going to be a hard sell. That was a suicide fucking note. Yeah. Oh, I ain't ref. No, you didn't. You've been fucked up for years. He's a little cock-sucker.

If a person doesn't drink, they're way ahead of the game and everything. You know, if you're not into drinking heavily, it's like you can get away with weed and junk. I think the drinking thing is what causes people to kill themselves, and I'm a real big believer in people being sober. So whatever. That was the hardest part for me losing weight is that everyone would say when you stop drinking, you're going to lose weight. I never drank. So I never really had those calories. Well, you drink and diet soda, man.

Let me tell you something. That fucks people up. It fucks over your appetite up. It makes you hungry for other sweets. So drink coffee, man. Coffee's good. I've never liked it, and I've always bugged me. Like, I went to school in downtown Boston, and people would be late coming in with Dunkin' Donuts.

And I'm like, what? And then it always bugs me that, like, if you go somewhere, they could give you a bad cup of coffee. If I go to 7-Eleven, unless, for some reason, it's flat, I'm going to get a good Diet Coke. But I am trying to cut it. But really, people are... You're a savage, man. That's crazy. Let me tell you something, guys.

you know I'm prehistoric you do know I have a certain work I have a certain work ethic I have a certain work ethic and either you have that work ethic or you don't it includes a lot of things you know it's the people that you want to work Saturday

I can't I'm going down the show I'll bust your fucking head unless you're eating at Trump's table everybody works on Saturday do you know what I have I work every day and you know what I'm not a judgmental person person, but I will judge you by your work ethic, because I know it carries into everything else.

For a grown-up, a man, you know, who's not 20, you know, whatever. When I was 21, 22, and I'd see people drinking coffee smoking a cigarette, I'd want to go up to them and kick them in the stomach and feel the hell. When I'd see people sitting there and ate in the morning like this and talking, it would make my blood boil. I did not understand it. My world, you got a buttered roll and a Coke, a can of Coke, and you ate on the move. I didn't know nothing about three eggs yet. My mom made good Cuban breakfasts, but once Mommy died, I wasn't into cereal, I wasn't into Captain Crunch. There's nothing better than a butter roll.

For a while, I got into the real juice stuff. The jelly and cream cheese. Yeah. On a fucking, oh, my God. Cream cheese and jelly on a fucking bagel. No, on a seapoppy seed roll. On a roll, really? I don't want to go.

How many pounds cream cheese every day puts on you for breakfast? It fucking kills you. I was eating that shit with a Coke or a U-hoo. I'm a Yuhu dog, old school. I got to stay away from that liquor store. I by my house, they got the big U-S. And they put in the beer cabinet. They keep those U-Hu's fucking cold.

They don't fuck around. But I didn't... It's just weird. And it's expensive, too. People spend $15, $20. If you get two, three coffees, that's at least $12, right? Like, aren't they expensive? I didn't drink coffee, Lee, until maybe...

though, so don't be, don't worry. I just didn't understand that concept. You would have, you know, it's, once you get hooked on it, it's pretty hard to get off. I love it. I love it too. I love my black coffee with some fake fucking sweetener that on it sends me. It's tremendous. And I only do one

cup in the morning, but I'm hooked on those flat whites from fucking Starbucks at night. They put a little, you go home, you get a little extra energy to make some notes about your day. I watch something on Netflix, and I'm in the crib. Coffee lifts me, but It drops me real quick from the 30 years of doing blah.

Well, that's good. No, I like all that stuff. So now we're done with gambling. That's it with gambling. You don't put nothing in from time to time? No, I mean, I might have like a small home game of friends. Sure. I actually prefer to play it and teach and talk about the hands while we do it.

I don't want to play for real money against my friends. All right. I'll come over one night. And the 25 hours doesn't bother me. It's always been the patience of sitting down. I've never really had the patience. I give you a different experience because I do kind of like, you know, I like, you know, I'm an armchair educator, and I definitely, I feel like I have a good understanding of poker and make it fun.

You know, it's a lot of stress playing for real money against strangers. It seems like it would be a great game for a stoner. It's an awesome game for a stoner, and a lot of the top players, I'm sure, smoke. But, you know, it just depends, you know, as long as, you know, you know what you're doing. Edibles, I don't know, man. I would never mess with this stuff when I play, and I was just smoking regular herb when I was playing online poker. This shit I would probably not mess with. But you can adapt to it.

That's what I know about cannabis. Like, how more you eat. You guys are used to these edibles. I'm not used to them yet, but I feel great. I mean, luckily, I came in with a pretty high tolerance anyhow. I love them. I love the effect. I love the different feel.

Sometimes you eat one and one's another. And you want me to tell you something? The best edibles you ever get are the ones I make at home. Because I go to Ventura and get some high-level weed. How do you make the butter? I just get regular butter, cut the weed up, let that weed dry, cut that motherfucker up. with a scissor, right? And keep the weed low, very

low, because if the weed burns, then you're in no danger. Maybe a little taste of olive on that motherfucker, and I'll put little chunks of weed in there and squeeze it with the spoon and get that... When that butter turns nice and green, I keep taking that weed out. I push it to the top, and I string that butter

and I put more butter on that weed, and I hit that motherfucker down with a fucking spoon, old school, and I get a cup of that green butter, and I take that thing, and I put it in the brownie mixed and I mixed that motherfucker all up and I put on, I have fucking hallucinated on my own brownies. That's the highest I've ever been is on a brownie.

I went to Old Orchard Beach with some friends and I was sitting maybe two feet outside of the umbrella for literally like eight hours. I was purple at the end of the day. I love it. I love it. I wouldn't know a life if I have to, I'd do it all over again. Like I would have stayed away from Coke,

booze all over again, pills. Yeah. I loved the calming effect of marijuana. It had on me. It worked for me. It worked for my lifestyle at the time. I was old. I'm an only child, so I'm in my head. You're in your fucking head. You're thinking. People talk to me sometimes and I'm somewhere else. Do you know, I don't hear you in class. I understand. No, I can't hear you. I'm half deaf as it is. Yeah, but you follow along. You get good. You take good cues. You see what's happening and you just do it. Yeah, yeah. That's good. So that karate training. No shit. You know, how to keep your eyes forward and listen. Oh, this guy's doing something.

that looks like that. This guy's going to them to all do about that. You pretty much get it right every time. That's where before we came in, we spoke about, I got into, I started this whole journey in 2009. I was 418 pounds. I could only walk three minutes up a treadmill on 0.5. Three minutes. The trainer at the YMCA pushed the button off and said, can I talk to you in private? You got to quit smoking cigarettes and you have to, just walk around the neighborhood and then come back and see me. Very fucking embarrassing. You know, it's all-time embarrassing.

But I knew from my younger years of working out, and I hit the bag and I'd ride the bicycle. It was the easy way out. I incorporated swimming. I never dreamed of the weights. I always had this whole thing about the weights. About six months ago, I was talking to a guy, and he goes, my father lost a bunch of weight at 55 by doing bench-press out,

by doing bodybuilding exercises, but still. combining the strength building exercises throwing deadlifts in there, squats, and bench presses heavy. You'd still do flies and stuff like that. I'll tell you what, I started doing them again. It refreshed me all over again. I loved it. I think this country's getting away from metal too much. I think they've forgotten about metal. They don't know the importance of metal to your cardio, your heart, your lungs, your hips. They forget, you know, when I told Lee, the first week I did deadlifts. I would have to go home and take a nap, even though I got eight the night before.

And it wasn't the weed, because I smoked weed every fucking day. I know when I go home and put my feet up and go, wow, my fucking insides are tingling. That was what I got from deadlifting. But before all that started, I didn't touch a weight until I got into Jiu-Jitsu, and I saw how bad of shape I was in. And every conditioning thing that I talked about and read online, they always had a small paragraph about kettlebells. They spoke about body weight exercises, which I'm too weak to pull 3.50 pounds, 340, 3.30 at the time. When I first walked into Jiu-Jitza, it was 3.36. A fucking doctor had me on testosterone. Meanwhile, I was making too many blood cells. I was walking. I was a fucking

walking the park from having a heart attack. My cardio was garbage. Every time I'd breathe heavy, my body would stress and I'd see stars and I'd have to take my top ear off and go outside and breathe oxygen. Lee, you have no idea how bad. better as shape you were when I walked into fucking jiu-jitsu. It was scary, but everything points on the kettlebells. Again, I'm the type of guy. You know what? You could learn a lot on YouTube. You can learn a lot watching and reading. I'll go pay somebody. Don't do what I did. Even though I'm proud of being self-taught, I actually, I could have probably, it took me two years what I could have paid somebody to teach me in a few months. But, you know,

training is not cheap. If you're lucky, you can find a place it as a class. But this kettlebell training is almost always private training. This is called Hart Style Kettlebell training. But first of all, congratulations on that gigantic weight loss. Don't forget that. I mean, somebody's got to tell you how incredible that is. Most people don't pull that off. That's amazing. And you go to sleep

for a while. You know, you rest on what you've done, but then you go, you get on the scale and you put on 50 pounds. Because I got all the way down to 270, 276. That was when I shot that dog movie in Colorado. And there was a lot of work. Because we're stoners. We'd like to throw a pot cookie in here

in there. When you're a stone, it changes the game. I don't have my jersey, and I get mad at Lee for this. I always yell at Lee for he's from Boston. You're from, in my world, in my world, where I'm from, you're from one of the best food markets

that is in the world, and one of the best food markets in the country. It's so tough to compete with that type of food. For me, there's nothing better for my world than your world than a diner. I'm from New Jersey. Okay, I trust a diner.

A diner has never done me wrong. Those Greeks are the best kitchen motherfuckers in the world. Why are they always Greek? I don't know. To ask him. I don't know. Marlborough diner. We all had it.

We all had it. We all had the whatever. I don't even know what the city they were, but we all had diners. We all went to them. I grew up in a fucking diner. I grew up on two things that they've taken away from me here. And because everything is forgotten here, the slice. There's no fresh slices here.

Nobody understands the power of the slice of pizza. It keeps you alive for four hours. From two to dinner, two, when you can't take life no more. You know what? I'm not going to fucking slice with a fucking Diet Coke and some red pepper crushes, and I'm going to eat my slice like a gentleman. Okay? And that slice saves your life.

That slice has what? How many calories does that slice out? 300 for cheese? Just cheese. And we could all live on cheese. You don't have to be a galvone and put... Can I get the tight chicken with pineapple? And throw some pepperoni on there and some roasted artichoke pie.

Tony's good. But you don't need it. This is what I'm talking about. What you can live with and what you don't. So we have that. You have the Greek restaurant. Two eggs, wheat toast, home fries, coffee,

and water, $4.99. And you know the lady, so you duke her $1.50, whatever was left over, and everybody fucking makes out. She has 20 of those people. Leave her a dollar every fucking hour. She's making $20 an hour of that fucking check on those $1.50s.

Probably, yeah. So I grew up on that. Once you're limit, there's nothing better than walking into a diner, and you know their food schedule. When you know a diner's food schedule, you're pretty much a loser. The Berkshire diner, even though I always found the hair in that motherfucker. It was on Bergen-Line Avenue. There was always something, a fingernail. That's gross.

That fingernail added flavor like a motherfucker. Okay, that food with the open steak sandwich on white bread, toast it with a little butter and some steak fries. Come on, dog. No fingernails in Jersey sandwiches. Come on, dog. Stop. We all know there's something in that. What do you think?

Brad Pitt wrote that fucking stir. Everybody pisses in the food in Jersey. I don't know if they... Things were cheaper back then, that's for sure. I'm just making this shit up. But you think of that, I knew that on Wednesday nights I'd go out and get soup of dammed. And I go to that Berkshire and get the cream of turkey soup with the fucking open steak sandwich. You can't find that in Los Angeles.

Thin steak, chopped thin over a fucking white bread with butter on it. And the great... Gravy from the steak and the onions is dripping on your motherfucking steak fries, Lee. How are you going to act? How are you going to act at two in the morning? While you're reading that, when the waitress comes over, she's going to get you boys anything else? You go, yeah, let me get four milkshakes all around. What do you want? Chocolate, I want vanilla.

What do you want? I want a strawberry one. That, that fuck up. And she comes back, you take that fucking steak sandwich. You eat that fucking milkshake on top of it. How do you sleep? How do you sleep, Steve? Like you did heroin and you got 19.

blow jobs. They suck the blood out of your fucking dick. It's amazing. It's amazing how you sleep. But you can't not eat ever again. Like that's your point. You got mad of me for going to Korean because the Chinese were here first. The Chinese were your first. They got first to me on the phone. The Chinese were here first.

The Chinese were first. No, but it pissing it. It goes downtown. It's two hours to eat. It takes 30 minutes. No, it doesn't. It never takes 30 minutes. I don't go at Friday night at dinner. You fucking, yes you do. Yes, you do. Not to Korea Town. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Yes, you fucking do. Saturday. Yeah, Saturday is different. You ever drive on that fucking Vermont and take your fucking time down that street?

Go ahead. Go to Vermont. And I dare you to pass, like, West Third Street. It's bumper-to-bumper, and Koreans just stop the car. I think they take the red light out of the back of the fucking car. You don't even know what the fuck they're stopping. They think they're driving a fucking rickshu, whatever the fuck you call that shit. They just pull over. You're stuck it behind ten.

Then when he pulls out, you got another one in front of him. I've never successfully driven in fucking Korea Town without almost having a heart attack. I cut around. What's my favorite place in LA? Langus. You ever try to get into Langus?

You ever eat at Langus, though? No, I try to cook as many of my own meals as I can. No, no, no, have you been doing? Is it a real fucking Jew? I don't think so. Oh, my God. Is it? Where is it?

It's only open to a fool because it's such a bad neighborhood. They can't stay open after a four, okay? It's right across from that crazy park where you get the passports and IDs, right? I'm not like that park. If you walk in that park, though people ask you if you want to buy a passport.

It's the real fucking deal. It's Alvarado. Down on Alvarado, Languars, oh my God. You got to go at 1115 and that's it. They got the crusty rye bread with the pastrami. You can't lose, dog. Man, you guys know all the spots. But my argument is, yeah, okay, that steak sandwich sounds amazing.

Your fucking argument is you eat pizza from fucking shit, and you're from Boston. You're disrespected. What are you never going to have pizza? No, you look for the best. Yeah, I do look for the best. Daniels is good. I don't care what you say.

Daniels is good. We've got a 600 calories. Yeah, you know how many calories are in it, which is big. So why was it that? I didn't know what to do, and I went online, and I bought a 10-pound kettlebell from five. That's a paperware you just have, no need for less than you. No, no, no. It was a nightmare.

People don't know this, yeah, for sure. I still have it in my trunk of my car. I gave it to my friend's wife. That's good. And now I'm going to take it back to do the. the Turkish gather's when I'm on my own. It's a good thing for a couple tools, but you know, and almost any time you move a kettlebell, you're using your whole body and move it.

So something like that, to small is just too light. So you start with at least a 20 or 8 kilo, 18-pound bell or a 26-pounder. You're swinging the 35-pound bell easily in class. I really want to get you on to a real, a real kettlebell would be a 24-kilo. There's no reason why we can't build you up to swinging that for us. What's the 24 kilos? 53 pounds. Jesus.

You'll do it easily, you know, with just like what you couldn't do in Jiu-Jitsu on day one. you could do six months later. You just got to try to practice it two or three times a week for a little bit, not even a lot. And looking at the way you're moving, swings and squats should be your life. You still have a very good squat. And, yep. You don't want me to do the cleans? You could do as many of those as you want.

Those are fun. I just wouldn't go heavy with those because if we can make your clean really good, then the next step is to teach you how to clean it. Then the next step is to teach you how to clean it. You see the way I clean it with in front of me and then get it to the, this is called the rack position, hold it with control. I teach it to you that way. But you can do the cleans for fun or for warm-up if you like them and do them.

But just getting as many swings as we can into you. And the swings, you know, anytime you talk about kettlebell, swings is the first thing they bring up. Why is that? The swing is basically the center of the kettlebell universe. I'm stealing that from RIF, of course. Only people who are obsessed with kettlebells know this guy, so I give them credit. Basically the movement in that, the hit movement in that, you do the same hit movement and all the other exercises, the clean, the press, the snatch, high pull, all the basic.

basic exercises are based on that swing, but getting a person to move their hips properly, it's kind of a long skill set. It takes at least a few months for a person's body to understand it. And once they do that, once they can swing well, then they can learn all the other exercises and it opens up like an unlimited branch of exercises and combinations that you can train with. And I only do like six or seven of the kettlebell movements, the real basic ones. So, yeah, that's why the swing is important. Plus everything athletic is done with our hips, right? It's done with our glutes, our hamstrings, our hips. you know, in America when we're showing strength, we go like this, go boom, show them the biceps

and the chest. But, you know, Russians, they look at you from the back, stealing this from Pavel, of course, just giving credit to the people who brought this here. And, you know, look at you from the back, you know, big back, big ass, that's what a strong person looks like. This is just for show. So the swing is really about building the back of your body. So if you're having trouble overhead pressing, that's not important. I wouldn't do that. I would just, as much weight you can pull from the ground swinging or deadlifting, that's not your arms and shoulders, that's your lats, that's your glutes, your hamstrings, your hips, and that's your ability to sit up and stand down, you know, extended.

It's just like practicing, sitting up and standing down under load. Now the method that you teach is, what's his name? Pavel. He teaches a hard style, Pavel Tsatsuin, the easiest name to mispronounce. And it's a pretty modern system that came here in the 90s. Basically, it's a blend of martial arts, Gojuru, which is the first style of martial arts that I trained, which is a, this means hard and soft. So this system is based on the concept of tension and relaxation And everything athletic is this blend this combination of tension or relaxation

So martial arts is in the punching You're loose when you make contact boom you tense everything at the same time Then you relax again So the swing is the same thing You're tense as you lock yourself out And all the exercises are based on that principle And then some other Russian weightlifting principles basically On how to make these really easy progressions

Like how to take you from a 16 kilo swing For 10 reps for 15 minutes on the minute To a 20 and then a 24 Just over time just a real estate basic system. What's 20-24? A 20 is a 44-pound bell. You got to get used to this. For some reason, we're just still stuck on kilos with these things. Like, you adapt to it. But 20 is 44 pounds. 24 is 53. But you could swing even bigger than this with training, for sure. You know, but I'm... And that's the, that's like when I started over at the other place, which was a great place.

They would always start with deadlifts. Sure. And then we'd go to 10 sets of swings in 10 minutes. Oh my God. I used to have to run out of the gym and breathe. I'd have to. to fucking pee right away. And I think it's still my breathing. My breathing, something's not right. Here's the deal. I wouldn't want you to really train that hard because you're still just in the early stages of really figuring out how to do this movement.

So I'd rather you train less off the clock. That's stuff that we do in class where we're trying to push you in the pace. I would do less reps and rest longer because I don't want you to get fatigued or are you getting used to the movement. That being said, I'll look at your breathing for you and everything. But you just put a lot of effort into it. You do it like a punch already. I hear you fucking breathing.

There's nobody else making noise in the class. These guys were all new to it, and I can hear you on your swings. So, you know, that's also just from your karate training from a million years ago, right? It just is there. You know, want me to be honest to you, this whole breathing thing came about after Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah. I realized I've been holding my breath for years. People breathe in their chest as they get older and stress develops.

So you just got to, you know, you know, you're probably just a chest breather for many years. You don't realize it and you're just tense. I got to sleep at me as soon as I have to warm up really. real lightly with things. If not, that's when I see stars. Like, I was, your class last Tuesday blew my mind because I broke a personal goal. I didn't cheat at all.

I did 10. A couple of them, I did 12. I've seen the video, man. I believe it. It was, really. It was really, for me, I could get to seven, and then I have to rest a minute and a half,

a minute, three quarters. That's good, man. This was, and I paid for it, the next day, you know, that was... But then Saturday, I came back and I did five sets of swings. I did five sets of cleans. And I got a 10-pound dumbbell that I had,

and I did the Turkish get-ups to the move. That's good. I practiced. I did sit-ups. I did... Is that the thing where you're on your back and you moved to you? Oh, that was scary.

That's tremendous. When you... Are you going to be there tomorrow? I'll be there. But when you started doing it, I thought you're going to have me to do it with the kettlebell on my hand, and I was like, I'm going to drop this on my face. You have a kettlebells right now?

We'll do them right now. My boy will be fucked up. I'm fucked up. I wouldn't do that to you, buddy. We'll sweat that star at that right out. I mean, do you, do you recommend going on YouTube? Because after your class, I went on YouTube because I really, I'm terrible. It's not that I hate working out. I don't know anything, so I'm terrified. So I get negative about it.

But I had a great time at your class. So I went on YouTube, and I watched like four videos, and each one of them had a different way. And just for me, as a chubby guy who's not into working out, that would totally turned me off if I was at home trying to do it. But being at your class, it was super fun. So, like, there must be other kettlebell classes in other parts. Because I don't know how you taught yourself. The YouTube for me really was, like, scary almost.

Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it because if you don't enjoy it, you won't continue doing it. You have to just somehow pick it up. Like, obviously, you put it in your hand and you love it, Joey. So, I mean, that's a huge step. So you just got to do it regularly. And just remember, it's all just skill first. at your guys level at almost until you get very strong it's mostly skill and the better you can get at the skill

the more weight you'll move naturally if you just reach the PR this last class if you come in tomorrow back off and work more on technique because you just peaked you're going to peak again this week that's not the way the body would work right so this is all just kind of basic you can call like a Russian weightlifting programming so just based on what you're telling me I was very surprised when I left there I was euphoric when I left there

had to go to a meeting I ran home to a shower My dick was hard during the shower. I had a protein shake and I ran the fuck out of there. And I was great at the meeting. It went smooth, you know. Let me talk to you about something. Excuse me, because I've been getting allergies lately. What is it about working out that you don't like?

Is it about going to the gym as a heavy guy? No, I was never really self-conscious. For me, as a person, I was never good at sports. just at anything. So I got competitive in other things. And I, I, I, I, I, I don't like it. Like, Paula has asked me to go bowling, like, 17 times. I refuse to go bowling. I hate bowling, because I'm the worst bowler. And, I don't, I don't know, like, even the past few jiu-jitsu's, I have anxiety. Not even anxiety. It's just, like, I don't want to, like, it's, like, almost dread. I don't, I don't want to go there. I'm terrible. One on I just go on the elliptical that I know.

and I was nervous before kettlebells, but more so just because I haven't lifted weights, really, since high school. And I wasn't even doing it that heavy then. And yeah, I just, I don't know. I'm really, if I'm kind of like a sore loser, if I'm bad at something, I don't like it. It's like something weird in me.

Well, for what it's worth, you're at least average plus, given like there were 10 guys there. You're at least average or better, so you're doing good. It's only your first lesson. I don't have to be. It's not like I'm comparing myself. like, or I want to be first place, because like I'm not going to be, especially there, but you're not an idiot.

You know when you're bad at something or when you're good at something. So it's just like, and what I should do is focus on that more and try to get good at it. But I get really, I'm like, oh, that sucks. Just to your best, everybody sucks at this point. That's the thing is everybody's a beginner. Nobody does just learn something in one or two or three or ten lessons of training. So as long as you do it regularly, I like the idea that you're enjoying it. That's all that matters.

Oh, I really like, I almost went crazy. I was, I had never, like I would, not at the class, but home that night, I'm like a, not a, I like watching TV and I'll be on my computer working or something. I'm a sedentary person. I was walking around my apartment. I had to, I had to get an edible and go to the comedy store to calm down. Oh, this is, come to my place and I'll give you a free, a free session, a couple free sessions to get your momentum going because I've got to do more than once a week and I don't want you to do without a little super. I got fucking sore. I haven't gotten sore from working out at Jiu-Jitsu or on the elliptical.

I feel fine. And like the first day I felt fine after your class, but then like the second half of the day, I was just walking. I was like, oh, shit, this hurts a lot. But it was cool. Like I felt like I knew I had worked my legs. Was it the front of your legs or the back of your legs? The side and the back. The side and the bag is going.

We really want you. If your hamstrings are sore, the back of your legs, then we know we're really doing it, right? Okay. But hey, it's good that you're sore. That means you move something that needed to be moved. Yeah, it was fun. As long as you're not hurt. I just have, I understand the exercise isn't for everybody.

And there was a time in my life when it wasn't there for me. I didn't think about it. I had that all mentality that I never get fat. And meanwhile, I'm putting on 10 pounds a year in the muscle. I built lifting, it was deteriorating. I still had the shoulders. But, you know, that's how we all think. Until you go somewhere and you look at a mirror unlike that's yours.

Sometimes you look different in the mirror in Las Vegas. You go to Las Vegas hungry, you go to the bathroom, you go, oh, fuck. Because I think your mirror at home keeps you a certain way. It's when you go to a different mirror, you go, Jesus Christ, they got to lose some fucking weight. For me, it's pictures. Looking in the mirror now, I still think, oh, I look relatively the same.

But then I have a picture on here from Uki-Spooky when we went to Austin. And I just look at it. I'll get it before you when you guys are talking. But it's, for me, even i hate it i never worked i didn't work out from junior year of high school until this year until a year ago if you can take the ipad and watch moving get on the elliptical it doesn't even because like that's that's what why i get mad at myself if i'm going to go home and watch tv i might as well be on the elliptical it's really not that bad you don't need any cardio though that's the thing

is for your your primary goal is to get leaner and that cardio you can't think of training as calories How many calories am I eating? How many calories are I burning? It's good to know your general calories. But my advice is to count calories for two weeks, and you fucking know what to eat. Because if you're serious, you just should be really eating the same repetition of foods over and over,

a certain amount of foods that you know fit your program, and it's not a grind. And if you're not doing that, then you're not serious yet. So, you know, that's tough, man. You eat these fucking stars. I'm fucked up, man. I feel it. When you go home, time, you'll be hungry.

I know. I'm going to pick out. And you have to eat. And you have to, you know, and that's the thing that kills me. But I also eat it controlled. And that's when I was getting to the point with Lee, well, once I left the East Coast, I knew I couldn't go to a Greek dining no more. Why am I mind-fucking myself?

Yeah, but that doesn't mean you can never have a steak sandwich again. Find one. Find one in L.A. 11 o'clock. The food sucks here. The food in L.A. in general. Especially late now. Find the 11 o'clock fucking open steak sandwich. What about?

I'll give you 500. Nobody's not. Really? No one hasn't. Jerry. Doesn't he really sound? 10 o'clock. I'll get you one over at Ruth Chris.

They have the happy hour. They have a steak sandwich. I never had it, but I know it's available. Just in case I got a sudden urge, I want to watch a game with you or whatever the fuck. I want to talk some shit. There's nothing, and I'm sure it's the same out here, but at least I grew up in Boston.

Jerry's is $92 and everything's bad. Well, yeah, not even about it's Jerry's. Everything is not bad at Jerry's. It's just one of those places that when the check comes, you go, why are we spending, $70 fucking dollars. I had a soup. You had a soup. I had a sandwich. You had a sandwich. Why is it

$70 fucking dollars? Because I'm in jerrys, I don't give a fuck. The best pastrami I've had is from fucking, you know, the least place, you know, Alvarado. The place looks like a bomb in it. The chairs are still there since 1920. But the recipe's been in the fucking

family since God knows when. Right. But there was nothing, at least, I still remember I'm not even a huge drinker, but Like 2 a.m. Those have drunk meals are just amazing.

Anything you eat. You eat dog shit. That's why Taco Bell is good. Yeah. Right or wrong. You eat Taco Bell? Yeah. I eat everything.

I just, I swear to, I swear, I do, but I try to like, at my best, it's 90%, 10%. What's your breakfast?

Give me your daily, yogi, Steve fucking diet. I get up really early. I get up at 5 a.m. No, man. Almost, I, the truth is, if it's 930 now,

right? It's bedtime. Yeah, yeah. No, I saved up energy for this. I've relaxed all day and I got juice for you. But, you know, I wake up and I usually just don't eat anything from 5 to about 11 because I intermittent fast. It's really simple. I only eat, I tried at my best only eat between about 11 a.m. and 7 p.m. I just heard about that eight hours. It's good for men. It improves your, I think it improves your hormonal profiles. So you just naturally

release more testosterone and growth hormone when you're not eating. You want to talk about like detoxing or purifying. Anytime there's no food. in your stomach and you're moving around and you are totally just detoxing it's you're pumping your body you're pumping everything through basically that's true detox but if you're busy digesting food you know that's where the energy goes where you want to look at it's not like no mystical energy but your body's energy so uh yeah i like intermittent fasting but the trick is is i'm not trying to really lose any weight so i eat three big friggin meals i don't believe in snacking i think snacking is a little for the for girls i i don't specialize in men but i know what i believe in

for me and that man evolved hunting so that if you were like out on a long trip you could go days without food and not be a pussy about it i can say that here right so that i think is the man have you tried kis it and oreos i eat everything bro i was hooked on it i'm telling you i could have been type two diabetes if i would have gone a couple more years only two even with that even being very heavy although i was fat fuck i think uh but yeah i know i know i know i'm lucky i was 190 at my peak but in the picture i have a couple fat pictures i you know the truth for me is like the pictures on the internet, I look better in pictures than I, it actually reversed my dysmorphia made me feel better about my body. But I just got myself really lean because I, you know, I just

try to eat right. And I, what's your, what's your 11 o'clock? Oh, so protein and fat, you know, I'm a big believer in eggs and bacon and ham and sausage and, you know, I buy almost all my food at like farmers markets. No potatoes for breakfast. Not yet. I do eat potatoes. I try not to because I think that if you start the day on proteins and fats, you just basically, you'll be satiated. Man, if you have a big plate, I'll eat like six eggs, I'll eat three of them raw and three of them cooked. So that's another thing. I eat them raw, too. That was crazy.

He did that after class after eating. Oh, yeah, you saw it on, right? Yeah. It's very healthy for you. You should always only eat organic eggs if you can eat raw eggs. You know, USDA organic are from a farmer's market. But it's just a good way. It's better than a protein.

It's a real protein shake. And it's got unbelievable vitamins and minerals in the yolk. And it's alive. It's just got enzymes in it. The hidden secret with food and losing weight, I think, is like, what's going on in your gut? If you have any healthy bacteria, if you're eating all overcooked foods or dead foods, even rice and potatoes are kind of, like, dead. You don't have this healthy bacteria. Some fermented foods are good.

You know, you got to like sourcrow. Do you like sourcrow? If you can get, like, there's local fermented sourcrow right in the neighborhood. I'll bring you one next time. But you can eat that. Without a hot dog, no. Fuck, yeah. I mean, you know, if you want to eat a hot dog at one point eat a hot dog, just not all day.

It's a joke. No, I eat it on a hot dog. I'll do it. I love sourcrown. Hebrew National. There's got to be something around there. Got to gop it up. Those fucking Polish doors.

Joe, look, this was me when we went to Austin. The skinny picture. You showed me that. Let's see, you gained weight or lost weight? He lost 100 pounds. Oh, I didn't know that about you, but I'm sorry. I didn't look enough into your history. That was me a year ago.

Okay. You were really heavy. Oh, that was 315. Well, congratulations again. You guys are like, honestly, it's like, the odds are better of winning the lottery than losing 100 fucking pounds. and keeping it off for more than two seconds. I actually have a client that lost it kept,

it off for eight years now, but she's an ultra-marathoner now. You know what that is? That's more than a marathon she runs. Unbelievable athlete. But that's what it takes, like, a commitment, you know, like a commitment to, like, not being heavy. But, yeah, you guys are doing, you guys are doing jiu-jitsu

and weightlifting. Maybe a little yoga we can get in there. I started this whole thing with yoga. My wife, I think I really, when I knocked my wife up, it was a mixture of weights, yoga, and protein powder.

You probably have, like, the genetics, though, of like a fucking, from your stories that you tell, you got unbelievable genes

that's just been proven at this point. Why is that? Because you're walking around and training heart, and, you know, everything's fine.

So, no, I think there's something going on with my heart. I could feel it sometimes, and time to time. What do you mean?

But I think I always got to go see a doctor with that show. Oh, I go all the time. I go, oh, no, no, I go all. I got good insurance. Yeah, you should go as much as you can. Yeah, no, no, no, no. I'm off for the physical on the 18th. The finger in the ass, the blood drawn. I think I'm going to go draw blood this week. You know, I drink water now again.

It's because of my daughter. It's because of a lot of things. I know what it's like. They wake up in the morning and drink a soda and light up a fucking cigarette and smoke two cigarettes back to back. and then smoke a fucking joint the size of this finger that was already rolled, waiting for me, because God forbid, I had to roll the joint in the morning. You know what I'm saying? I know what it's like. I know how it feels to have your blood pressure.

Shoot the fuck up. Like you put your thing on your arm and you're 180 over 120 at 801 in the morning. I know that feeling, and I don't like that feeling. And I know the difference now. You know, I breathe a little bit before I smoke dope. I breathe a little bit in the morning now. 30 minutes, I drink some coffee, I relax. Then I hit a fucking little pipe full just to get the blood going, you know what I'm saying?

Just to make sure the spirit's in the house. I go do a little riding. I fuck around a little bit. I go on the computer. I get my day sorted out, my little wardrobe. Fucking mama makes some breakfast. Living in California, we're blessed. We're lucky because we have access to good medicinal herb.

And that's just medicine. And, you know, I'm a California patient. And I know you are too. You ought to imagine you are, but if not. Whatever. say you are. If you're starting kettlebells, how many sets would you do? What is like a starting

point for somebody like Lee? After the next three weeks with Lee, what will you have lead to me? I'll have a goal. I'll have a goal for everybody at VMAQ, by the way, at John Bud's school. I'll have a goal for all you guys. I'm going to bring a real, you guys, you guys haven't seen real kettlebells yet, truthfully. The goal for a man of your guy's size,

of our size, basically, is to take a 32 kilogram kettlebell and do that. This is my goal that I said for you, and it's simple, but you'll see it will take a lot of work to get there. And while you're learning the skill, you'll be building strength. And so instead of you thinking it out of just a torturous hard workout, you feel yourself getting better.

And you'll almost accidentally get stronger until one day a 32-kilogram bell will be something you can manage. And for some of the guys, maybe a 24-kilogram get-up, which is easily doable for guys, you know, of certain, you know, unless you're below a buck 40. A get-up. Brother, I can do 106-pound get-up, so, I mean, I'm not that big. Oh, Jesus.

Well, that's all based on form. That gap was a lot of technique. Past a certain weight, it's about learning how to use your body. It's actually some people have called it a loaded yoga. That's probably why I was good at it because I had a lot of yoga behind me. And then I started to pick up kettlebells. And the get-up was like my specialty. It was the only exercise that's kind of like a little guy that I could be really strong at

and do something that most guys cannot do. So yeah, heavy get-up, turn you into a monster, turn your body into like a frame, a steel frame. Really? A heavy swing, too. Heavy swings is real important too because the get-up is. you know, like a slow-moving exercise. It's a grind kind of. It's a, you know, so I like the explosiveness of the swing exercises, too.

Can kettle bells help with loose skin? Because I know a lot of people lose weight have that issue. As a loose skin, probably as a part of an overall health plan, which will include losing weight, I would imagine. It's because you lose weight. I understand that probably the answer for that's not great. You probably got to get that worked on because I don't think that shit goes away. Well, I think that you're, I've heard of you lift. It helps.

I really don't want to have surgery just because of skin. Well, it can never hurt. to be as muscular as possible. You're never going to be too big, unless you're on something and you're just a natural athlete, being more muscular is just beneficial for your health. It makes you resistant to injury,

and it burns energy. You know, like, I still eat like 4,000 calories a day at 180 pounds. Yeah, I guess I'm all muscle. Lucky. You know, I mean, I'm not a huge, but I just, I burn, you know, but I put in a lot of energy training other people.

So you eat 4,000 calories in eight hours? Yeah. That's a lot. I mean, I'm not, I, yeah, but sometimes, you know, I'm not perfect. I never lie about my diet, but I do cheat, you know. You have to, you can't leave your whole other. You know, my theory is if you were raised on American foods here up from like zero to six, like that age frame, that was all, you know, we ate that shit.

It's impossible not to look at it as something like, mm. I love that. Twinkies. Like, what the fuck? Like, that shit is such a garbage, but I still eat it. Whatever my wife buys in the house, eventually the weed makes me get up. Yeah. My wife is very smart.

She buys the cups to the baby with the little cookies. Now, anybody who's old school knows those cookies tastes like that. Oreos still maintain. They made a big payoff. There's still something in Oreos. They kept the coconut fucking fat in there. They're getting a little weird with other new flavors, though. Yeah, yeah.

That's for fucking this youth that wants to try. Listen, I grew up on the only thing I get beside Oreo is the double stack. Oh, yeah. That's it. And no flavors, I ain't got a lie to you about 10 years ago. I bought the tin that comes in. Christmas that comes, that dipped in the white chocolate with chocolate. Really?

They comes into ten over the fucking holidays. No way. I've never seen a lot. Hey man, listen. Listen, guys. From 2000 to 2005 or six, you could ask my wife, at night, my fucking, my eight o'clock high, you know what the snack was after dinner and McDonald's for breakfast and breakfast at home and Chinese food and whosoever house I stopped by who offered me a sandwich, But my late-night snack, my all-time favorite, is a little bit bigger than a 32-ounce coat. Yeah, 32-ounce.

Wow. Not the 64. Wow. And a whole pint of Ben & Jerry's New York Superfudge chunk. With the soda? I like the ice cream, but all that soda, too? Dog, I cut the thing in half. One scoop, put it in a glass.

Oh, man. Put the Coke in there. Oh, my God. And then I'd mix it up, so the peanuts and the chocolate go to the bottom. And I'd mix it up real good. I can see your mouth is watering right now? Oh, my God. I have no idea.

You're not doing that anymore, right? And never again. That's diabetes, bro, and I drink like half of it. And then I throw the whole container in, and I put the whole thing in, stir it, drink a little bit, stir it, drink a little bit, stir it, drink a little bit,

and then I eat every piece of fucking chocolate in the bottom. That was my thing. Honestly, right now on this podcast, I was doing that three to four nights a week. So we all have fucking flaws. I'm very happy. I do not have diabetes. That's the first thing they test me for.

That's fantastic. One time I ate a pot cookie that was in my trunk, I did a blood test. No, you can't. Oh, my God. They called me within the aisle. They're like, you got to come back. You got diabetes. You got melanoma.

You got fucking more shit than fucking, uh... Little serious. One second. Why don't you just check it yourself and get a glucometer. It's one of the only tools you can buy on the shelves. You can't stick yourself. Fuck yet. You know what?

It's not, which it's nothing. It is nothing. You'll not, you'll barely feel it. I almost fainted during the UFC the other night. Let me give some shout out to him. We'll talk about this. Yes, sir. Eddie brothers.

There's some fucking people's houses They were from Carl Statt, New Jersey. You should see this house, guys. This is the best house I've been to. In a shitty neighborhood, you walk in. He has a Led Zeppelin mural on his wall on a pinball machine on all guns and roses.

Then you go upstairs. There was a bar. There was pizzas everywhere. There was catered food. The fucking wall was gigantic. Everybody was smoking dope. I went out to the balcony. I knew nobody.

But the one guy was at the comedy. store the one night when I destroyed the English lady. So he came over to me they offered me pizza. I'm watching the fight amongst people but I don't know. And all of a sudden there's a UFC fight and he's dripping the blood on his chest and the blood's

going everywhere and brother I had to look down. You got dizzy? Because the last thing you want to do is faint in front of fucking strangers. That alone, that alone right there had me sweating bullets. I'm going to give some shout-outs to my man Joe Swanson. And

Anthony Barrety, kickback attack, Rob Gebhardt, Brian Burton, Eric Harrison, Harry Solovich, or whatever you, Solachian, Harry Solokian, and Scott Phillips, you bad motherfucker. Yeah, that thing pricking yourself at the house, that don't work for me. Oh, man, all right. I'll keep trying to get you to do it. My fucking cat, Dimmy, one of the craziest cats I have, the only cat that I love this motherfucker, he, he's a little. and Rifa were born on the same day. When I used to come home fucking, and I first gave up Coke, the only thing that stopped me

from jumping on the window is Dimmie. Because Dimmie was a kitten, and I'd get really high, and I'd take a piece of paper from the notebook, rip it, and I'd play O'Lei with him. He could play O'Lay when he was six months old. You don't know what life is

till you play O'Lay with your fucking cat. And I would go like this, and he'd sit there, try to go through the fucking paper. and then he turned right around and look for it. Well, Demi has a fat ball on the side of his thing. So, took him to the vet like three months ago. The vet said it was no cancer. It was just a fat ball.

That if it got bigger, they got to take it out. About a week ago, he started limped. So, but he's been acting weird. Like, he jumps on my lap and he wants to be loved. Dimmie's always been a lover. You know, that's what makes you love Dimmie, that he's a scumbag. You know, the other than I get out, I hear shit in the living room. I'm in the bathroom taking a pee.

This is just three weeks ago. This is the kind of scumbag is. I get home, I'm fucking a little high, I'm pissing. You know, you got to run in the house and pee. And I fucking hear something. And I hear like something falling. He's on the thing pushing the pictures off the mantle. Like a fucking, like a fucking, and I look at him.

And this is why I love him. Because I look at him and I go, Demmy. And he just looks at me like, what? Like what? I'm just fucking around. I go, Demi, get the fuck down from there. I go in the bathroom to wash my hands. I hear another fucking picture go down.

And I got to chase him and fucking hit him with a shoe or call him a scumbag. He hides into the VCR and sits under there for an hour, and his tail gets all big. It's hilarious. You want to kill that motherfucker. But on the other hand, you'll be sitting there kind of confused. You've had a fucked up there.

You saw you went to see Yogi Steve and he fucking killed you. And all of a sudden he jumps on you and he lays this. wearing your legs and as he goes to sit down he pops his you've seen him do knuckle sandwich that's my fear I was just gonna say that this motherfucker you'll sit there

come here dog give me knuckle sandwich you put your hand down and he'll come up to you and hit your head with it he's a cool motherfucker yoge Steve he's a re-for-hame he's money he's money this guy is a solid dude he's just a fuck if there's something going on it's fucking Demi

if there's something going if the sink is on or there's a piece of bacon on the floor that's Dimmy he ripped it out of We locked him in the, when he was a kitten, he locked in the refrigerator. My wife opened up the refrigerator. He was sitting at me, meow. He was in the fucking, that's how crazy he is anyway. I love him.

I didn't say nothing because I was upset the last two days. My little dimmium, so we took him to the vet today. They gave him pain pills. I'm going to go home and eat three of them. And see, because I asked my wife, what are they? She took a bag out this bigger pain pills. I might as well go home and snort him. I don't believe you.

No, no, I'm just tasting me. I took my dogs in 1987. I did take Hercules's. I believe it. Sleep whatever it is. So wait, are they going to do surgery? No, they want to, they took x-rays or something. They're going to call us tomorrow and decide what they're going to do with Dimmie.

My wife is heartbroken. That's her cat. Old school. Like, that's the man of her life. Jimmy, and especially when Harry and him are together, like, when I come over sometimes and you're like, play with my cats, I'll be patting, like, Harry and Dimmie will shoot over and, like, knock my hand away, and then Harry will fight for it. Those are probably my favorite.

They're fucking good people, so it would break the house and have. Yogi Steve, you have a lot going on. Yes, sir. You know, John Buck spoke about you highly as fuck. You know, he always said we had to get together because I brought the kettlebell to VMA a couple times. I'm like, John, let's do these, you know. Yeah, yeah.

You're a jiu-jitsu guy, you know, you say this, because it helped me completely. It really did. It made a huge jump. And I was out there last summer dog before my knee surgery, last August 24th, I knew the knee. was going, but what's the difference? So I would go out there at night

at 11 o'clock at night in July and just do, and I would see stars, but I'd hang in there. And I would do between, in those days, I'd do seven sets of swings, three or four sets of cleans, I'd do the regular squats. How do you teach? I do five of those, and they fucking kill you.

They kill you. That's what killed me last week. It's a real important movement, though. Do that, and you'll stay young. You know, if you can squat, it's just a huge movement pattern. You don't ever want to have to be helped up out of your chair, right? You don't want to be able to get up yourself. So if you can do it holding a weight, you'll be able to do it longer just throughout your regular squat. It's important.

Help with your posture. I'm happy that there's more guys like you out there that you're not, you know, you're not Jack Willane. You're doing it to really help people. I really, the reason why you're on this show is because I could tell when you come up on Tuesdays that you really like helping people. And that's big in my world. I was shocked. I mean, I'm absolutely flattered you to have me on here, and I really appreciate it.

And, you know. I like what you do on Tuesday mornings. And I know that you're not getting rich over there. But like I said, I like your belief in what you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you this is a man to man. I like that you're from Jersey, that you're Jewish. Those are two pluses.

There you go. Any Jew is a fucking always deep friend of my Lee. Am I lying? Who's the spokesman for the Jews? By 2019, who's going to lead the Jews? Who's going to leave the Jews into the next fucking underworld? Tell them, Lee. Probably you.

Me. With a Yamika. Then we're going to be throwing money at me because I'm the only one that's going to speak for them. That's the right way. I'm going to leave them back to Israel and take back what belongs to them. Cubans and the Jews are going to go together. They're going to go together. You think I'm fucking kidding.

That's pretty much what Miami is the got going on. They got it going on. But, you know, I want on your page and you have some interesting stuff on your page. Your Facebook page and you have like a saying up there. And I see that you're involved in Laurel. Canyon. You know, I was never really a, not a Laurel Canyon, running canyon. When I moved here in 97, I dated a fucking whore. She was a fucking pig. Okay? I loved her the debt. Great lady. We still communicate. But let's face it. She would

suck anybody's dick any time. She was sucking my dick. It takes a lot to suck my dick. Not any fucking smart girl would suck my dick. So this chick was just an animal. But she was a whore. And her whole thing was, we lived right on Hollywood. And Laurel Canyon, the running Canyon. We lived on not the first building. That's where I live. But in the white building, it's an old Russian building. 66 something.

You walk in the thing, it smells like Slovakia and fucking gyros. It's all international building. That's your first place when you're moving to Hollywood. That was our first apartment. And in the morning, she'd make me walk up Laurel Canyon. And we had a dog then. And on the way down the hill, we'd stop. And I'll tell you what used to burn me up about Laurel Canyon.

It became more of a meeting place. And this was 17 years ago. It was chicks all with hats and there used to be a bench there. The thing when you walk up where you guys do yoga now used to be a doggy park. I lived here, I remember. I was here before.

I was here for about 20 years. 20 years ago was a doggy park. And then you'd walk up, then they'd warn you about the snakes. And I got to tell you something. When you get to the top of Laurel Canyon, if you do Laurel Canyon four days a week, you will lose some fucking weight.

It's a nice little hike for somebody. starting out. It's not like the Hollywood sign. I thought the Hollywood sign was, I liked Runyon Canyon, but what bothered me in those days was that I would wait for her. She was always like doing something dirty, and there would always be these

girls with hats on, and they kept talking about Leo. Oh my God, what did Leo say to you last night? And this was when the Titanic was hot. And all they would do would sit there and talk about Leo and Jack. How they went to Jack's last night, and Jack was so horny.

but he busted out of a bottle of champagne. It was so cool. And I used to listen to them and want to get a gun and just ended for them right there. And they would read their sides, which has always bothered me. Listen, I know what it is to go for an audition. Today I was going on my sides.

You know, we're in the fucking car. Down the street from the audition because I got there 15 minutes early. But to read your sides in front of people so people could stop and ask you, what are you reading for? Oh, my God, we love her. Oh, my God.

Send her our love. Oh, and that's why I stopped going to Runyon Canyon because I felt like it had become the other thing. But then for a while there, they've been doing yoga there. Obviously, you're the man. 15 years, Runyon Canyon is awesome, and it's just a great park. You just got to kind of get through the entrance where all the dogs congregate and kind of pee on the front fence.

So it gives the illusion that the park smells like pee. But look, the place is very busy already. It's busy. It's busy. Yeah, yeah. You see it in the mornings. You see, if you drive in high, Hollywood at 8.30. You see

people walking from everywhere to fucking Runyon Canyon. It really, it's... Yeah. It's a great... So I pay a little extra for wherever I live to be close to that park so I can walk there, you know, for yoga or for my dogs. But yeah, I'm lucky to be close to that park for sure.

Now, what style of yoga do you teach there? My background is in like what would be called like a Shonga yoga, which basically is like people call it power yoga. So let's say my personality, like in kettlebell class, from a little bit strict and focus on technique. My yoga's for exactly the same thing, and it's not no mysticism, and no Sanskrit even. It's just very rigorous, like, even for beginners. It's for beginners and up, but, you know,

you kind of got to be up for the challenge of sucking at it at first, but I teach five classes up there a week. We have 17 other classes if you stick with it. What time do you teach during the week? I teach, I'll give you all my Facebook stuff for that schedule, because it's a huge schedule, but I basically teach five different days over the week, you know, Saturday, Sunday, 1030 to 1130 in the morning, Tuesday, Friday, and Sunday, 2 to 3 p.m. But I'll give you all my Facebook stuff at the end, because we have all these other classes, and I always like to

promote all the teachers, and it's all volunteer, you know, and we're really lucky, so, yeah. I've always liked that style of put what you can to can. If enough people come out, I mean, we do okay. I lived in Boulder for 10 years. Yeah, I didn't start, I was very,

I didn't know what yoga was. I didn't not hate it, but I just scared me. I used to hang out at the Roper Institute. I used to go there and eat lunch. My friend owns a cafeteria. And I used to hear about it and whatnot. It's just, I got into it once I met my wife. My wife finally pulled me over that.

I thought it was interesting as fuck. But I did it to Y in Hollywood, which was phenomenal yoga. Begin a class on Sunday from 3 to 4.30. But then when I moved to North Hollywood, that yoga, that Y isn't that good. And I would try, there's an 11 o'clock, 1145 to 1245 on Mondays, which is my speed. The Wednesday night class is power yoga. Kondolini, it's a big fat guy, and he shows you his feet, and he's got corns of shit. Yeah, a lot of people tell me.

What's the class he just shows you? Oh, my God. He shows up with a gong. He has a big white beard. He wears like a pajama top, and the sweats don't fucking fit. You can see the stains in the sweats where he's peed himself. Then he takes his feet off, his shoes off. Just like a homeless guy?

No, no, you think my feet are fucked up. This guy's feet are fucked up. And then he comes on. He bangs a. gun for the car. Once he busted out the gun, it was all over. Dude, we have both of that style of yoga and the other style that's like

that's more like a discipline and rigorous none of that mumbo-jumbo shit, but that turns a lot of people off to it. It's fear from back east especially. That stuff just people don't like it. Now there are genuine people like that who I don't understand who are like fucking magicians. I just teach you this exercise. And it

really helped me actually as a strength athlete too because it improves your mobility. It keeps your mobility. That mobility you had in karate. from doing, I see you're still doing splits and shit. So you can see how important that mobility is. Have you ever done DDP yoga? Because I was, I did it once. No, I mean, it was kind of cool.

It's that you want to, like, either do yoga or not do it. Like, you've got to know if you're following something like that. It is what it is. I mean, you're not going to do that for a lifetime, right? I don't know. I only did it once. It was kind of cool. Whatever your intro is, but it's like anything else.

You got to decide you want to get into it and practice it and put in a few hours a week and then get better at it or do that a couple times and never do it again. So whatever you feel like, doing. I like you doing the Jiu-Jitsu now. You don't want to eat too much. Now you're going to do kettlebells. It's not necessarily doing it with me once a week and you've got to find another day to do it. You don't want to do this shit just once a week. Right. Because you'll just kind of, your body will just get stuck. They haven't in my gym. I was going to do it again, but I was surprised I was sorry about it. I'll give you. Just yesterday I stopped being sore. I'll give you stuff to do when you're not in front of me, but hopefully I get you in front of me eventually

when we don't have a bunch of other guys there. See, the kettlebell stuff really does if you get serious about it, work best privately. I actually don't teach... I only teach this one class, and I teach only privates. I work at least 30 hours a week. How long is a kettlebell private with you?

It's always almost an hour. I try to just keep it at an hour because when you have a coach who kind of has a general idea of what you're doing after screening you, I know what I'm going to do with you because everybody needs most of the similar same movements. And, you know, I enjoy teaching.

I like the repetition of doing the same thing over and over and making it, you know, tighter and stronger and finessing it more. And you can just get stronger, you know, and about in an hour. And I train people two times a week. I try not to train them more. But I like the class of VMAQ with you guys and John Budd. Give credit to John Bud.

I thank him for introducing me to you. The toughest guy I know I've been kicking ass since we're in college, right? Your jiu-jitsu teacher, John Bud. That's why he was really impressive that he moved. you that long East Coast. And you guys were still connected. And that's the East Coast type of thing where you stay connected. And to live, you know, eight fucking minutes apart.

Super lucky. It's even luckier. When he kept telling me about you, I kept saying, this is amazing that you ran out with some. And how he described you, I expected fucking some guy with long hair and the thing with the fucking guru. But once you said you were Jersey, the whole fucking thing, that's what I have one regret when it comes. I have two regrets. I didn't start Jiu-Jitsu at 25.

Me too, I think. That's what I told him, because he doesn't understand. Well, he wrestled though. That's good. The humps and bumps you're going to go through over one year league, and then you're going to have some way to go two days a week, regardless of what's going on in your life. Everybody's got to train.

Everybody's got to do something. You don't really like that fucking with Jim. Doesn't matter if you don't. He's in your friends. You go in there. But what the fuck was I going to fucking tell you, cuckusker. Your second regret. My second regret was not starting yoga early.

I loved yoga and I liked I paid for a class Like a bigger time class I didn't do too well on that I wasn't prepared I need something a little slow I'm a little older my knees I had surgery on this knee

And I gotta go back and get a cut again This thing is damaged again I'm just waiting to turn the fat thing down So I could shoot down to fucking Marina Del Rey and tell this guy listen You gotta give me another MRI This thing's fucked up again I heard the thing pop

Oh no six weeks ago Yeah I just been walking around wounded Because I ain't got time to go to Marina though, right? You don't show pain. I couldn't tell you a repeat up in that class. Oh, yeah. I limp during the rest of the week.

That's not good. I could feel it. And it's not getting worse. It's in the neighborhood. It's not as bad as the last time, but there's something going on. But this one hurt while I was doing dead lifts. I left it to wait the last two times I did deadlifts,

and the left one started hurting, which I had surgery on. This is the one I can knock my wife up first. This is the 2009. This is the one that got the fucking rhythm. going, they got the fucking savage going. But yoga's another thing. I wish I would have started early

because I knew what the benefits were. You know, if you added to something else. You can build strength easier than anything else, though. With yoga? No, with the weight training, with the yoga, with everything that you're doing. I mean, your workload might be a little high. You just don't want to train, you don't want to train

too much. You know, strength training a couple few days a week, jitsu, a couple few days a week. And the more walking a person can do. But I think that your general lifestyle of being busy, burns a lot of energy. Anytime you travel? I walk the baby at school, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

I walked there and back. Then we pick her up, so I have my little... Like, today I took a swimmer, but I jumped into the big boys' pool. I did as many fucking laps as I could. I go back, she'd jump in with me. I'd swim with her, but I got to do laps again and breathe, which was fucking tough.

It was tough, and I had to modify my breathing. I was seeing what I was doing wrong. I had to focus on my movement. I was cutting like 10 feet before the wall, and then I was going 8 feet before the wall and then finally by the end I hit the fucking wall because I wasn't tilting my head too much

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Hit me. It's an Instagram and Twitter. It's outlier strength. It's just two words, outlier, strength. That's Instagram and Twitter. And hopefully I'll be lucky enough to get at least one more video. you're swinging that kettlebell for a 15 second Instagram clip with the group.

I mean, so definitely hit a hit up Outlier Strength on Instagram and Twitter. I actually opened up a Twitter account because of you. I'm not actually doing anything but Instagram and Facebook really. And if you want to know about the yoga stuff, because we have a lot of classes,

the schedule is long. It's just running canyon yoga on Facebook. And that can give you all the information on yoga. And you can like it. And you also, the nutrition also. You know, everything I do with food is just for free. I guess I'm not really like trained in food, but I've just been studied.

eating it and I'm just a self-trained nutritionist and I feel like I can help anybody with their diet but especially dudes who are like certain habits that males they should eat a little bit differently than women you should you should create a system and it should all just be called snacks or for pussies pretty that pretty much is the system buddy that's the system I'm sorry but I don't I don't want to like talk negatively because I understand that the battle with food is as real as a battle with alcohol or any other drug and if you're not doing the hard drugs it's okay to like whatever so you won't eat fruit in between dinner I'd rather you'd rather eat ice cream than fruit because to me like it's a simple sugar and I'd rather just eat it in a big

dose and get like full on it and then not eat it again for like a day or two. So you eat a big dose of fruit? Yeah, my second meal after eggs and bacon for first meal. Second meal would be like a giant salad with like broccoli, cabbage, but a ton of chicken, but not the low fat chicken. I don't believe in low fat, especially for men. High fat dies better. It promotes better hormones. So I eat like the chicken thigh and I put it in the crock pot. I cook all my food. That's kind of like also.

Unfortunately for that's the key. and if you make your own food, you're 90% there. Eating out is tough. And if you dinner, I eat steak and tons of potatoes and rice. And if I'm not eating good, I'll eat a pint of Ben and Jerry's a couple hours later. If I'm eating good, I'll eat nothing. Thank you, Yogi, Steve. You're a savage.

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