The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #311 - Kyle Turley

Episode Date: August 25, 2015

Kyle Turley, Former NFL Offensive Lineman, Owner of GridIron Cannabis Coalition, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: NextIssue.com/Joey for a free trial ...of the Magazine app Next Issue Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout. HITecigs.com For a better tasting, longer lasting e cig go to HITecigs.com. Use Promo code joeyschurch for five Hit E Cig's for $50 Naileditlife.com - Get 20% off a vapor pen by using code word joeydiaz. They are also produce some of the best edibles on the market, Los Gummies Hermanos Recorded live on 08/24/15 Music:  Down in The Park - Foo Fighters Wanna Be Around - Tony Bennet Down In The Park - Alice In Chains

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Starting point is 00:01:39 Carl Turley Lee Syatt Uncle Joey Are you kidding me Or what? Anarchy Edibles in the house In full effect Sometimes we eat little stars of death
Starting point is 00:02:04 Tonight we ate the fucking big meteor Put that on loud Lizaa Kick that motherfucker Take that meal leave I've been in Boston I had a great time And you come back with the flu
Starting point is 00:02:36 Not the flu I have a little bit of a cold Fucking plain I did see in the Hindu dust And God And God knows what the calamitates back there What were you in 26
Starting point is 00:02:45 Jesus Christ almighty How you end up back there Because what do you get when you fly on American I don't know fucking people I don't know nobody You know people You give me some miles I don't know
Starting point is 00:02:55 But yeah God Yesterday it was bad Because the flight coming in From Chicago was delayed a little bit And then the plane was like from 1987. It was like super old. But I had a great time. Cross country flight.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Oh, God, yeah. Super old flight. Yeah, and it didn't have like none of the, none of the monitors. It still had the flip down screens. Whatever. I haven't been back to Boston since a year ago last May. So it was just great. I hadn't seen my mom for almost nine months.
Starting point is 00:03:23 It was just a good time to go home. You went to the museum. Yeah, we saw the Pixar exhibit, which was fun. We went to Fenway. and I almost started sobbing. I had to hold it together because my mom was there. Because I had my mom on my podcast, and she told the story when they thought I had cancer as a little kid,
Starting point is 00:03:38 and luckily I didn't. And then the kid who threw out the first pitch at Fenway was like the six-year-old who was born premature, just like me, and had beaten cancer, and he's walking out in the entire... The thing I love about Boston and the thing that bothers me about Dodgers, and I know when they have big games, they go out, but for small games when they're not doing that, well, I've been there and hasn't been that great of an experience,
Starting point is 00:03:59 experience at Dodgers Stadium. Fenway, we're 10 games under 500. The place is packed, and 40,000 people are cheering for the 6-year-old, and I'm just, I'm just bawling. He threw a strike from the, from the pitchers mound. It was just, I miss Boston sometimes. So he had a good time with the family.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Hell yeah. Went to legal, got some chowder. What else did you eat at legal? Fried shrimp. Chowder, isn't it? What else? Chowder, yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I got a Caesar salad, too. Caesar salad. Look at you. Living like a dog. With shrimp or chicken? Not on the salad. Just the regular season salad? Yeah, I don't mess with stuff on the salad.
Starting point is 00:04:34 It's weird. Beautiful. What about you? Do you have a good weekend? I had a nice weekend with the family. When swimming, did the whole fucking kid thing. What are you going to do? Carl Turley, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:04:43 How are you doing, man? It's good to be here. What's going on, man? Everything all right. Yeah, man, everything's great. Before the podcast, we were talking about billionaires. School started. School started.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah. First day to day. It's fucking back. Oh, yeah, yeah, man. Traffic is back. People are stuck. They don't know how to make the left. But it's funny.
Starting point is 00:05:00 We're talking about billionaires before the show started. What do you do? When you have 11, what would they work between them? Combined. Because the owner, the owner himself owns, like, every sports team in Colorado. He owns the Rams. And then he owns one of those European soccer teams or football teams. So he has, like, almost seven.
Starting point is 00:05:22 And his wife is the heiress to the Walmart fortune. So right now on Wikipedia says almost five. So it's like close to 11 or 12 combined. What do you do when you got $5 billion? I would go to the bank. Whatever the fuck you want. Let's say the bank opens at 9. I'm there at 901.
Starting point is 00:05:38 You never go to the bank. I go to the drive-through window. The bank comes to you. And the bank goes, beep, and I go, fuck you. And I drive away. That's what I do 9-0-1 every day. Just go to the bank and say, fuck you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I own this motherfucker. Yeah, pretty much. That's pretty much. $4.8 billion. They own banks. I never dreamed of having money like that. I wouldn't know how to act. I wouldn't know how to fucking behave myself.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Now I do, but not 20 years ago when you're a college student, somebody hands you $14 million signing bonus or whatever the fuck they do. That shows how much. Everyone always says sports athletes are overpaid. But if the owners have that much money, it shows you how much they're really not making that much comparatively when you think about it. At the end of the day. Yeah, at the end of the day, like, you said it a bunch where, like, the UFC's like, oh, we're doing a great day once a weekend, but your college football brings in a sellouts.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Every weekend. 40 times a weekend. 40 times a Saturday. Alabama has a $25 million surplus. They just bought Nick Sabin's house for him, just because, like, last year. You have a college that has a $25 million surplus. That's just one school. and they talk about cutting kids' tuition
Starting point is 00:06:59 and we can't staff teachers and the NCAA is a racket. I mean, you've got 32 NFL football teams, right? And they're worth a billion dollars apiece, roughly. How many NCAA colleges are? All the coverage is, the whole SEC is, each team is worth almost a billion
Starting point is 00:07:20 because they control the whole state. What was it like for you as a college player? Like with like there was that Shitty. I was in San Diego State. Yeah. Well, they had that basketball player who was like on the national championship team and said he couldn't afford food and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, you got to work, man. I mean, I was a kid. I was one of five kids. My dad was a truck driver. There was no money. There was no action. I wasn't going to college if it wasn't from football.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You know, so going to school was, was challenging as a student athlete because of the demand. you know the other students they see their you get to you get a free school this out of the other but you're you're full time for them you're pretty much a slave for them i mean you are you're up and if if you're not a class on time you're running if you aren't eating you're running if you're not making weight if you're not doing this doing that making practices you know your life is controlled so you are 100% owned by them your off season is the only time that you can have a job as a college athlete.
Starting point is 00:08:27 You can't have a job so you can't have any money. So you're, I mean, you know, try to be an offensive lineman putting on weight and all that stuff, you know, it takes money. You got to buy extra food. That meal ticket doesn't cover, you know, four steaks a day, you know. 20 chicken breasts, you know, that doesn't get covered on your meal card. So it puts guys in a bind in a big way. That's why you got James Winston, stealing.
Starting point is 00:08:55 crab legs. He's won the Heisman trophy. He's made a billion dollars for the school or whatever. I don't know how many millions, but may as well be. They were flying him on a private jet, I think, between football and baseball, because he wanted to do both. Right. You know, he's flying on private jets.
Starting point is 00:09:11 He sees his coach. I mean, we had a coach of San Diego State that just left and went to Michigan a few years ago. Brady Hoke. And, you know, had two good years. Brought the San Diego State Aztex up to another
Starting point is 00:09:25 height of recognition where we were at. You know, we came off of Marshall Falk years. Then we had our years. We broke Marshall Falk's records, big time receiving core, number one offense in the country. All the guys on our offensive line played the NFL, et cetera. And then we kind of got lost. And then this coach comes back.
Starting point is 00:09:43 He brings the program back up. He's here for like two years. And then he gets, you know, Michigan comes in on a private jet, picks him up, gives him a big multi-million dollar deal. San Diego State Camp, it, you know, because they don't put any money into football. They only put it into basketball. And they take him away and he goes, you know, and the players see that. They see, how can't I just go get a pair of shorts from somebody, you know, or trade my shorts for a tattoo? And you get to
Starting point is 00:10:15 be here and make millions of dollars. And then you're not contractually. I can't just get up and go to another school if I don't like it here. I have to sit out for a whole. whole year, you know, miss a whole year of ball. But these coaches, they float around, this whole lifestops floating around. So what do these kids have to look at? And, you know, these are the examples, you know, it's like Chris Carter and talk, get a fall guy. It's like they perpetuate that whole thing. And, you know, the owners and, oh, now Chris Carter's surprised. Oh, I, I didn't see it to realize till just now when I watched it. It's been up on the NFL's fucking website. He's watched it before, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:56 This is a perpetuated mentality, man. And these kids are, you know, getting trouble for it, man. It's weird what when you're growing up and you're watching college football, for me it was college basketball and college football and pro, everything. And you watch this. And as a kid, you're like, fuck, I could do this. I can just go to school, take a few classes, you know, lift some weights and go to college. shit and then you realize there's so much more involved like there's so much more that you have to
Starting point is 00:11:30 you just don't show up there's paperwork and this and that and pee test and you know you have to do this and get that sit with this guy once a week and you don't get to go to college you know kids get to go to college and you know they get upset because they have to work this and the other but they can go to parties they can have fun is it you have to commit if you don't if you want to keep that scholarship and you want to, you know, get to where you're trying to go, which is the National Football League, you've got to fully commit. You got to give up spring breaks. You've got to give up everything. I mean, you've got to train constantly. That's your job. You have a job, and it is full-time. If you are dedicated to it, you're one of the best, and you want to honor that
Starting point is 00:12:11 scholarship, that's a full-time gig. And being a student-athlete was rough. I mean, and then, you know, and then there's the really stupid things like we just talked about. I mean, I had to pay back my last semester of my scholarship because I signed up for all my classes credit no credit instead of getting a grades and I had switched my major mid-career so I was able to pick a bunch of courses that I hadn't taken yet that were all kind of general education types of classes and I could take them credit no credit so you know I'd go on test days and like every other student does you know and I just show up and I'd you know fail I'm sure because I'm These are classes of science and English and all these, you know, where you're reading books and you've got to really study.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And I'm just like, I got to focus. I committed to stay in that the school. I could have came out my junior year. I committed to, you know, stay and try to become a better player and get drafted higher and represent the school. I did, got drafted, seventh pick overall. Seventh pick in the first round? Yeah, seven pick. San Diego State, offensive linemen.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I beat all the SECs, all the big ten. It was crazy, man. And they made me pay back my scholarship because I only went on test days, and the days I thought, you know, got everybody else away with it, you know, and I'd just take them no credit. So then it wouldn't count against my, they try to screw me over. I got a letter in the mail. You owe us $20,000, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Like, okay. All right then. So the day you get drafted, the fucking blue ink ain't even dry on the job. Yeah. The school. The school, the first one, one of the first bills I got, once I got drafted and made it to the National Football League
Starting point is 00:14:00 was from San Diego State University for $20,000. It was the second Columbia out. That's the second bill that comes in this strike take. Remember when you're... All the parking tickets is what it was. All those fucking parking tickets. The city of San Diego, we need all that parking money. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Seventh overall. That is just a... Yeah. Were you in the, like Madison Square Garden or wherever they held it? No, it wasn't as big of a deal as it is now. You know, it's really commercialized now. What year was this? 98.
Starting point is 00:14:31 98. So it was still tagliaboo, and it was just starting to get a little silly, you know, with the media. But it wasn't as big a deal. So I just stayed out, Marino Valley out where I grew up in the valley out there in the desert, man. I had a party in my mom's house and the cul-de-sac invited everybody over. That's a great, knock-up way to do it. Nice and simple. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:14:52 So now you go to, you got drafted by who? New Orleans. Yep, Mike Ditka. And then you went there via, you got traded immediately. No, no. I got drafted by Coach Dicka to New Orleans, was there for five years, and then they traded me to St. Louis. Yeah, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Mickey Loomis traded me. And, you know, that was how it was. What did you think of the Saints when you were done? That's my team, man. I got flirt with ease all over me. That's a special place. It still holds a special place in my heart. I haven't set foot in the Superdome since I left.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I've had plenty of opportunities and made a lot of excuses to get around it. And I have a lot of invitations just because it means a lot, man. That was a pretty, pretty special place to be in New Orleans. You've been there. And anybody who's gone there and experienced that city, you know, can attest to that. It's just a different, different place. Were you there during Katrina? I went after Katrina.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I was not on the team. I was in St. Louis. I had just gotten traded. I was down, I was after 2003 season. And then I was down to Mexico at the time. I had a house down there. And we saw the storm coming on the radar on the TV and it tore up the city. And so we flew back early and loaded up a truck of supplies and stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I raised a bunch of money and cleared out of Sam's Club and hauled it down in the 18-wheeler. My dad was a truck driver. And drove it from St. Louis all the way down to New Orleans for the cops and the firemen because all those guys are my buddies. And I knew they were – I couldn't get a hold of any of them. The phones were all down. Everything was down. And so we drove that truck down, got in, and they waved us right on through. And we spent about a week down there helping clean up and all that.
Starting point is 00:16:48 The team was in San Antonio at the time. They moved away. Oh, oh. All right. Okay. Sorry about that. Katrina was fucking crazy, wasn't it? Like it was cr-
Starting point is 00:17:03 It was nuts. My friends were down there either shooting a movie or had just finished and they did all this stuff. And they went back after the hurricane and they shot where they were shooting. Like the dock where they had shot. Gone. Like nothing was left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And now it's 10 years. I think ABC's doing some special this weekend about the 10-year anniversary of Katrina and whatnot. You know what? I can put a... You're a mumbling, bumbling little fucking cock suck. It's my fault. I didn't have the microphone where it need to be. No, he's always kicking over something.
Starting point is 00:17:35 No, just hitting the button and the music sign. He ain't even fucking high yet. He's straight yet. He's doing shit. He's just trips. There's a lot of wires, man. A lot of wires. A lot of fucking...
Starting point is 00:17:46 Mission control over here. Yeah. You're a fucking tremendous athlete. Oh, no, I'm not. I'm terrible. Yes, you are. You got the light feet. You can move like a break dancing.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I've seen you fucking do your thing. You just never, nobody ever forced you no more. What does it like to be traded, man? That's kind of crazy when you think about it. It was weird. You know, were you on the trading block? Did you know you were going to get traded? Here's this team you love.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yes and well with them. I had another year on my contract, but they had just fired. They were in talks of my agent about renewing my contract, extending it, making me a saint for life. But it was Randy Mueller, who was the general manager. And Randy Mueller, all of a sudden, after my agent's telling me the deal's done, you know, we're going to lock this up before the season starts.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And you'll be a saint for life. Cool. You know, I'm not asking for anything. more than what I deserve should be a no-brainer. You know, I've proved myself to the team. And then out of nowhere, he gets fired. Like one day, he calls me up and he says, Kyle, you know, Tom Benson, he's senile or something.
Starting point is 00:19:01 He's like, I don't understand it. And he just fired me, you know, and I'm like, what? You know, this is a general manager. And he'd only been there for like a year or two years. And we'd won. Like, we were winning. It was a great team and fired. And he called me.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And then all of a sudden, the guy that was in the back room, Mickey Loomis, who is now this big famous guy, was just crunching numbers. He was the numbers guy for them for Randy Mueller's crew when they were in Seattle and running a show up there. And he came to New Orleans and was just crunching numbers. He was a guy that you sat down with when they redid the contract or whatever and worked out all your numbers. And then he became the general manager.
Starting point is 00:19:48 So, you know, the owner at the time, you know, pre-super Bowl, pre all the new money that he's got, I guess, was, you know, stretched pretty thin. So he was not wanting to spend the money to. And that general manager, Mickey Limous, was, you know, set on, I guess, making a statement with me, I guess, contractually as to what kind of general manager he was going to be, you know, So a lot of things just started slinging around, and he was, you know, talking a bunch of shit about me. I'm back to my agent. And my agent was like, hey, team, I can believe what he said. You know, you shouldn't be telling me this because now I'm just pissed, you know. And I remember after a game one time, and he came in the locker room and we had just beaten somebody.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And it was a big win. And he came in and he said, he's shaking everybody's hands coming around. And, you know, and he'd just been hearing all this stuff he's talking to my agent about now. because now the contract, you know, that was done. It's not done no more. And so, you know, now I'm sitting here kind of got to wait and see and feel out this new guy, what he's intended for me. And he's coming around the locker room and great game, great.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And I turn around him, don't get the fuck out of my face, man. You're, don't go act like you're my friend, you know. I thought we were cool. Yeah, I guess we're not. You said some shit that I don't appreciate. you know so keep on fucking down the line telling all these guys you know congratulations because i don't want to hear it from you and then that just kind of snowballed into a you know a lot of different things they're talking about giving and they're the owner
Starting point is 00:21:31 now is in some big tiff with his granddaughter who at the time he was talking about you know grooming her up rita to be this uh uh new owner she's going to take over you know and it was It's just like, I knew five dudes on the team that she'd been with, you know, I mean, making out with married dudes and on retreats and shit, you know, guys from the team and stuff. Like, this bitch was fucked. And I was just like, and then they started trading everybody away, trade Willie Rofaway, traded Chris Naoli away, started trading everybody away, started trading everybody away, you know. Like, what are you guys doing, you know? And I was like, and now you're going to start talking shit about me.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I'd been, I might have given it, you know, yeah, you know, sorry if you would have treated me well, but I'm sorry, you didn't. And it was a situation where I just kind of felt like, hey, you guys don't want me there, then fucking trade me, okay? I'm tired of dealing with this bullshit. I don't need this. I don't need you coming back and forth about me and talking this about me. I've given everything I've had to this organization and then some.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And it's on film, you know, whatever the fuck you think you've done for this. team, you can go fuck yourself. And agent called me when I was over in some union meetings in Hawaii and said to hey KT, they want to trade you to the Rams. I said, fine, fuck them. How were the Rams? How long were you there for? It would have been a good situation had I not gotten injured, man. blew my back out. And that was
Starting point is 00:23:05 at the same time. I could have made it back with them had they given me a proper job. chance. It was a serious injury, surgery was involved, the whole deal. And, you know, it was an injury really took me down, you know. So I was, had one great year, made all pro, you know, my first year there and represented what I could do for the team. Unfortunately, suffered injury. They contributed to heavily in neglect. I was complaining the things that were telltale signs of that something's going on with my back, you know, all the sciatica nerves and all that stuff, you know, and they were just, hey, they'll just shoot you up, you know, shoot you up with all these
Starting point is 00:23:53 drugs with tort all and cortisone, you know, numb it. And it's something in your hip. It's no big deal, you know, we'll see it after the season's over with. After the season comes open, oh, wow, you've got a herniated disc the size of a fucking golf ball. Oh, that's why you can't get out of bed now. And that's why it's starting to seize up now after the season's over with, because your body, you know, you're not moving around like you were. You're not working out like you were. Now, all of a sudden, you take a, you know, you're relaxing and laying down, you take a load off for a few weeks, and all of a sudden you get out of bed wrong one day
Starting point is 00:24:25 and, boom, there it goes, all the way, you know. And, you know, it could have been resolved probably with some rest and take a couple games off, you know, or treatment. And it wouldn't have been as severe as it was. You know, probably never would even have had to face. surgery. But, you know, that's the way they ran the show. And then I got involved with Mike Martz and that whole deal. It was, you know, another ego guy that thought he had the right to say what was going on with a player that had a serious injury, you know, and didn't
Starting point is 00:25:03 want to understand that, you know, this guy that hasn't missed the down of football in six years, since he started in his league or a practice for that matter is complaining about something and not really kind of complaining just kind of saying, hey, I don't know, I don't feel right, you know, should I be out here right now?
Starting point is 00:25:26 You know, they rushed me, they screwed that up during the season, and then they put me back in four months off of back surgery. And I didn't know, you know, they're in charge of the whole deal. You know, you're in their doctor's care. I never had a back injured before. I didn't understand what, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:40 that involved, rehabilitation, et cetera. And then I go back to training camp and blow my back out again because I went to them and said, hey, man, I don't feel right. Like the first couple days of training camp, I said, I thought I was in better shape right now, but my leg is way behind. I don't feel good. I don't think this is, I think I need to really kind of reevaluate my situation here
Starting point is 00:26:03 and maybe rehab a bit stronger right now because I'm feeling really weak in certain areas. No, no, you're fine. you had the surgery, it's okay, boom, came back into practice, okay, I'll keep going, you know, keep telling me I'm fine. You know, you trust so long and it just keeps continuing to bite you in the ass and then you kind of get fed up, you know, and at that point, then I started, you know, continuing my, my admissions to the media and, you know, delving some information about how things were going and people don't like that, you know. They don't want, they don't want critical thinkers. They don't want people to
Starting point is 00:26:41 step out of line. And, you know, when it becomes that kind of a relationship, you know, you're just a disposable number after an injury like that, you know. So they were able to no guarantee contracts in the NFL. See you later. You know,
Starting point is 00:26:57 cut you. Now you're back in the market where you just signed a multi-million dollar contract. Now you're looking at, you know, league minimum with a split. You know. Crazy. It moves fucking fast, brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And, you know, the bottom line is you have to stay healthy. Because they got three guys in line to fill your fucking thing. So now you have a child, you have a big house, you bought that fucking boat on the leg. It's more than staying healthy, though. It's a lot of politics. Oh, absin fucking louis. It's more than state, because that's what it was for me, you know. If it was just about staying healthy.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And it's politics you don't need, and you never knew of that. Yeah. It exists with stand-up comedy. It exists with acting. You know, this guy. has this movie role, you're perfect for it. Well, we think that Paul Rugg would be better. What the fuck are you talking
Starting point is 00:27:45 about? But it's just, there's so many variables to make a decision sometimes. You don't know at the time and you don't understand. I think that happens in like regular offices too, like oh, well, you come in this weekend. Oh, totally. Well, you work for free.
Starting point is 00:28:01 It's just, it's amazing how like, it's your entire, how long have you been playing football? I didn't, I didn't start playing until I was a senior in high school. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah. One of those stories.
Starting point is 00:28:14 But even then, you put four years of college and then, what, six years in the NFL? Five red-shirted. So, yeah, high school, then five of college, and then nine technically in the NFL. Now, when you get red-shirted, you still play. You still practice. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're just a practice, dumb. Practice, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah. You go out there and you rocked to a bucket. That's your game. Yeah, right. So you just rock the house. Yeah. I mean, and if you go to a good college, then, you know, you're coming out of high school and you're running scout team for the big boys. You know, you're going against the first team.
Starting point is 00:28:46 You know, you're coming straight out of high school. That's, I remember this dude from L.A. Carson Leah Meaty, man. This dude, massive. And he'd come around the corner on a trap play, man, and just launched me like five yards. You know, this dude was 350, big old Samoa and Polynesian cat, man. Massive. and just came around the corner of blazing fast this guy was for as big as he was unbelievable and uh you know he was in he ended up a lot of aztecs going the movies after college but
Starting point is 00:29:17 he ended up in um armageddon he got crushed uh in the streets in new york big old simoan dude i think cooking out in the beginning in the beginning yeah with any griffin and yeah yeah and uh carson that was him yeah it just you know you uh grow up with a certain set of values, especially Midwest or whatever. Your dad's a truck driver. You make it to a team.
Starting point is 00:29:44 You play your heart out. And they push you out as soon as something slips up. Something. And that's, hey, listen, man, now with 30-30 and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I did, you know, one of the best things about the longest year I was, I spent a weekend in a jacuzzi with Bossport and a bunch of other guys. Yeah. You got the stories. And Bosworth told me that story.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And I went upstairs and it fucked with me for a couple of days because you don't see that. These are the things the people at home don't fucking have a clue about. They don't know what the fuck is going on, you know. And they're the same people that are called those sports talk radios. He's a bum. You don't know what the fuck's going on in your personal life. That's all they show, you know, they show the glitz and the glamour. Look at that ballers show, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:31 It's on TV right now. That's all they want to show, you know. They don't want to make a movie about Junior Seow. You know? They don't want to do that. Now, you, when your friend contacted me, the Cuban guy, and then I'm like, why is he contacted me? I know Kyle, Kyle said, they hit me up to wreck. One of the things I looked at, that's big right now.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Well, that's Daniel. Yeah, that's from the just cool me.org. Okay, right, right. That's, you know, one of the other things I'm working on, opposed to what you're about to talk about there. But, yeah, Daniel got in touch with you, and we're doing, and it's all intertwined. Yeah, I got a lot of good things and some charities I'm working with, and that revolves a lot around what that is.
Starting point is 00:31:17 You know, with all this AMAs, have you thought about getting to MMA? And smacking some motherfuckers, get some good size to you? No. I had a brief thought, you know, as a wrestler, that was my sport, so I know I'd do really well. But I should have went to, Iowa State, actually, because I could have wrestled and played football. Coached by Bobby Douglas, I think he was Bobby Douglas.
Starting point is 00:31:43 You're huge. What weight do you wrestle out of high school? My senior year, I had to wrestle heavy weights because they didn't have a 220 weight-pound class. But I was about, you know, 220 my senior year, so that I was heavyweight. But then I went in the – I wrestled since I was like seventh grade, you know, through high school. and in the summers, freestyle programs, et cetera. And then I qualified for the state games. I was, like, really torn because I wanted to, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:12 if there was money in wrestling, I would have just committed to wrestling. But football gave me the scholarship. I had to go to training camp instead of going to state games and giving it a shot. Because I started finally putting on a weight. I didn't play until my senior year of high school. So then I started lifting weights and getting big, strong, you know. And I became a really good wrestler and had some great coaches. So all the cars were set there.
Starting point is 00:32:39 But the MMA thing, it was, it's more of, you know, what's going on with the brain, you know, that keeps me from doing that in two ways. And that I know personally, if I'm in there. And I know a lot of guys, you know, say it. But I wouldn't stop. would do things, I couldn't control myself, you know, like it's a fight. And just because of the brain issue, you know, it's taken me to a different place when that kicks in. It's a whole other world, and, you know, it's kind of a scary place.
Starting point is 00:33:20 So not really something I like to tap into too much because bad things tend to happen to other people. Hold that thought one second. What's Tony better at that? Is he ready to arrive? Yes, he is. This is why I love you, Lee. You're always thinking.
Starting point is 00:33:38 There's something just to... There you go. Fuck it. Yeah, man. You're an interesting fucking dude. I want to get to this. I want to be a... Pick up the pieces.
Starting point is 00:33:50 When somebody breaks your heart. Oh, shit, Lee. Tomorrow bell bell bell class. Don't stand next to me. I'm talking. Some somebody twice as smart. Hell yeah, I'll meet there. It's weird, you know...
Starting point is 00:34:08 You watch these football players. I don't know what year. I'm not good with years. With the leather helmets on, they're blasting themselves. And then, you know, when I was growing up, I saw people fucking bombard each other.
Starting point is 00:34:22 You know, I grew up during the Pittsburgh Steel era. It was awesome. With Jack Hamm and Lambert and Ming Joe Green and, you know, Lester and Molester out there fucking slamming people and Ronnie a lot. Yeah, you know. You're at home watching TV,
Starting point is 00:34:37 you're like, this is fucking great. And then years later, you don't even know what the fuck you're thinking about. You're up at 2 in the morning. You're smoking a joint. And there's a documentary on Earl Campbell, who's in a fucking wheelchair, you know. And I remember sitting there on Monday night crying in my living room.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Him running in without a fucking shoe on. Yeah. I mean, they took his fucking shoe at one time. He scored a touchdown. Really? Yeah, it was amazing. It was just Monday nights. Yep, ran out of a shoe.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And seeing 40,000 people with little blue flags going like this and they were singing and it's crazy. And now you're seeing this man in this fucking wheelchair. And then, you know, you just hear all these little things over the years. I grew up a football fan guys. I bet I took fucking San Francisco plus the one against the Dallas Cowboys in 81. I love all that shit. I just don't now because, you know, you grow up and you get involved in other things. and you don't have time to catch up with the teams like you did when you were in high school and college.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I was still a big football fan. Oh, no, I understand. But it's hard to, like, support them, especially when they're so, they take such strong stances against, like, steroids. And they take strong stances against what's going on with Brady. But then, like, they'll sell these highlight videos of the greatest hits, like the best hits of the season or whatever. And then, like you said, you see players. It's all good, though. It's all good.
Starting point is 00:36:08 The thing is, is that every player would gladly, still to this day, he would be sitting in wheelchairs proud. I have to walk a cane every now and then. My body locks up. That tautic nerve just fires up sometimes and, you know, shuts me down. I got to use a cane. I'm on a cane. You know, I'm barely turning 40 this year.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And I'm on a cane a lot. Just because I'd still like to stay in shape. and the injuries are, you know, what they are, and it just puts me down like that sometimes. But I walk proud with that. You know, that's my badge of honor. I've had a cane before it broke on me, but I had it all stickered up with, you know, my helmet stickers. You know, this is why I got this cane. And I tell these kids, I'm like, don't feel bad for anybody that got hurt playing football.
Starting point is 00:37:00 What you should feel bad for is that these motherfuckers don't care to take care of. dudes, you know, we have a problem in this country with understanding that there's a responsibility. They parade around this whole family talk all the time in sports. But then when serious things happen to people in this supposed family, they just shut them out. I mean, it goes, you know, down to the kids. It's the worst. I mean, Pop Warner right now, you got a handful of kids every year that die. and are put in spinal situations.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Why is this? And they don't take care of it. Why are this? I just visited this kid in Marino Valley. And he's got a lawsuit against the Pop Warner League right now because they just turned their back and walked away. He made a tackle in a game. He was a star player.
Starting point is 00:37:54 And he ended up getting paralyzed. And he sits in a wheelchair now. And there was no insurance policy for catastrophic injury, you know, that now has caused his family to have to move from Long Beach to Marino Valley and live in an apartment, you know, in Marino Valley. That's, you know, and guys like myself and other people that hear about these stories are the ones who they're, you know, going to try and go and help this kid, you know, why aren't these Pop Warner leagues trying to help them? Why isn't the National Football League who has a monopoly on football
Starting point is 00:38:27 and relationships with these colleges and, you know, little leagues and et cetera? to promote their game, create programs like they do for everything else to help take care of these people. Because at the end of the day, we know the risk. We understand there's risk. I saw Dennis Bird go down when he was playing for the Jets, and he came around that corner and, pow, and he's down, and he's paralyzed. You don't think that's as scary as the brain injury or death, you know? We've known this for a long time. But what we haven't done is taking care of these guys when they've gotten hurt.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And the unions and the league, they don't honor injuries situations and disability benefits. I mean, that's what's created all these problems. You'd have all these old guys on Keyneson and in wheelchairs at all the games with their jerseys on. You know, proud. So as a retired player, what do you get? What do you get now as a retired player for any benefits? Anything? Luckily, I got a good lawyer
Starting point is 00:39:30 because that's what it takes. You don't just leave the game with the benefits that you deserve, you know. When you can't play anymore as a football player, it's because you can't play anymore. It's not because you're not good anymore, in majority of cases. This is because you can't play anymore
Starting point is 00:39:48 because you've received that injury that has, you know, took you a step back or, you know, for most guys, you know, really crippled you. You don't walk. away from this game. You gimp away. Let me ask you something because this is what's got me baffled or maybe I'm missing
Starting point is 00:40:04 something. Where I grew up, Kyle, huge football. Northern New Jersey, huge football. I was always a basketball kid early on and I knew I would play football eventually
Starting point is 00:40:21 but for the most part I got left back and I sucked so bad that I focused on basketball and we turned the team around from 0 and 7 to four and three. But I had friends that played football. Today I talked to Mike Ascleese. He's the high school coach's son.
Starting point is 00:40:39 He left me a message. He emailed me a couple days ago, and we were going back and forth on the topic. When I was growing up, I didn't hear as much, I don't know how to say this, Lee. I didn't hear as much about concussions and serious head injuries in football, as I'm hearing now. Is it the helmets?
Starting point is 00:41:03 Are we getting stronger? Are the kids... Yeah, those statistics haven't changed. I mean, they've been pretty consistent over the years and the decades of how many kids die every year and the spinal, et cetera. And it's not a question of gear, because you can't make a good enough helmet to stop it, you know, until the government releases their technology, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:25 that they're using to fly around in their space. We're not going to resolve the concussion issue, you know, until we can float the brain without causing damage to it because of momentum and laws of motion. There's nothing that can be done except treatment and protocol. And for too long and why you didn't hear about it is because it was no big deal. You just got your bell wrong and, you know, oh, whatever. And then all these social problems that stemmed from it, you know, that we just kind of pawn off. as getting old or, you know, or that was just the game, you know, whatever, it's just natural progression.
Starting point is 00:42:07 It wasn't. It's because of an injury, and we haven't addressed the injury, and that's, you know, what's lacked. You know, they didn't want to acknowledge it. They didn't want to, and they went out of their way furthermore. That's why they cost them a billion-dollar-plus lawsuit, you know, at the end of the day. So the NFL did get sued for this. Oh, yeah. They settled.
Starting point is 00:42:25 It's an open-ended lawsuit right now. It's hanging up because of a couple appeals. But this is a multi-billion dollar lawsuit. They just, you know, Oates said, okay, fine, we'll pay it. Because there's evidence that they intentionally hid the damage and the knowledge that they knew about concussions, the damage that it caused and what it did since 96. and they waited 10 years before finally not really admitting it because they haven't admitted it, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:04 It's still as a part of the settlement even. You know, it's like you throw a couple billion, multi billions of dollars at this thing. It's open-ended, so who knows where it's going to go. Was it enough? I heard a lot of criticism when it happened. It wasn't enough money. Well, it's supposed to be open-ended, but the structure of the settlement, and who's supposed to get it is still in question because they're still trying to say,
Starting point is 00:43:27 you can't see this disease until you're dead, which is a bunch of bullshit. They've got a bunch of scans out there now that can show this disease, show it very clearly. I've been a part of two studies back in Boston that clearly show CTE, this disease in the brain. But until there's enough time of study with these scans that are new and unproven, they're allowed to just continue to, you know, kick the can down the road and say, well, we don't know if these players got this disease, you know. I mean, you can see it on a basic MRI scan. You know, I've had two on my brain, or three, and they're just, it's a big blurred mass.
Starting point is 00:44:10 When my brain comes up, there's, you know, an area right in the front of my skull and my brain that is just a dark, blurred mass. and all the doctors every time I get it scanned get all freaked out and they you know how many confessions did you have two documented in the NFL which was quite rare and uh but knowing what a concussion is uh you know I've had hundreds you know I mean over the course of my career played 109 games I think and all the training camps etc is you know I mean that's a lot of concussions. You're earning a fucking job in training. Yeah, exactly. You're earning
Starting point is 00:44:52 a fucking job. It used to be that way. Now it's not, you know. It's a year-round deal so they don't have to, or at least because of a lot of people fighting against these teams just running their ships like slave owners, man.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I mean, some of these training camps were just brutal, just, I mean, killing guys, literally. Corey Stringer. And so we had to fight a lot for, you know, getting these guys to where they're at today. Because we had to go through the trenches, literally. I mean, it was Louisiana, you know, Tibado, Louisiana. Just asking the trainer one day, how hot is it, man?
Starting point is 00:45:35 And he's in the shade. He says, it's 135. And you're like, humor is fuck. Oh, my God. Pads, helmets, gloves, tape, socks. socks, shoes, you know, double pairs of socks, shoes. Every time you step, enough sweats coming through the holes of your shoes, the air holes, you're just, you know, and sweat is just billowing up out of the holes, squishing out.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Every time you take a step, and it's like, quack, quack, quack, every guy. Coach is getting life-flighted from the field. Players getting ambulance emergency to the hospital body locks, you know, full body lock, cramp. All day long, players, left and right. Ambulance come every day multiple times, taking guys on. And they were just like, you know, all right, we had a trainer got fired for that because he was opposed to it. And they brought in a, this guy had been the trainer for 30 years, Dean Klinchman, and he was opposed to the owner bringing the Saints camp back to Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:46:40 That was kind of the beginning of the fall, you know, where I started to see the writing on the wall, like, what the fuck? These guys are just all about money, man. This is not about the dream and the game. like they talk about, you know, this is all about money. How disappointing is it when you find out it's all about the money? Really disappointing. It really does. It really does.
Starting point is 00:46:58 As an athlete, you know, because you fought for that dream so hard, you know, to get to that level is, I mean, you're, I mean, one in a million, you know, multi-million, one in a billion, you know? I mean, to be the best, especially to rise to the level of, being recognized as one of the best that's ever, you know, that's playing the game. That's, that's just, it's tough when you see those types of things filter in, you know. And then when it comes to your time to, you know, for them to acknowledge you, I guess, you know, in contract situations, et cetera, like we talked about, then, you know, it's really, really jades you, man.
Starting point is 00:47:43 It's a, it's a rough pill to swallow, you know, because it's not like any other occupation where you just sat in the classroom and you did a lot of mental work, this and the other. You literally, there's blood, sweat, and tears, you know, that go into this, literal. People are going to say they worked hard to become this or to become that, you know, and they put their time in. But as a football player, especially back in the day, to make it to the National Football League took a tremendous amount of sacrifice, you know. I mean, you, I gave up college. I went to, I worked for the Aztecs for five years because I wanted to make it to the National Football League. It was a full-time job.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And, you know, and literal, I mean, injuries, blown out knees and backs and getting under, you know, go rush into surgery, rush into rehab, rush back to the field, you know, get back in, get back in, constantly pushing your body. And the whole time that's on you, you're two days away, you'll be fine. No, yeah, of course they give you all the, no, they give you all the clearance and, you know, to go back. Kind of what Joey was talking about earlier with, are they getting big? I was the least athletic kid in my school.
Starting point is 00:48:50 So if I'm wrong, tell me. But it seems like a lot more now kids are playing the sport all year round and going to camps and getting a lot of more specialized training. So they're probably having all these injuries. Like you said, like the kid in Poplar. They're probably having like 10 knee surgeries by the time they get to the NFL or just something. Oh, yeah. Kids are getting burnt out these days big time.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It's not just football. It's every sport. You know, I mean, these parents, today. I was coaching Little League and helped coach basketball back in Tennessee when I was living in Nashville. And, I mean, no matter where it's at now, it's like these parents are just, and maybe that's how it's always been. But, you know, some of these people just think that their kids going pro, you know, and it's like they keep them from being a kid. That's fine if you think your kid's going pro, but, you know, you got to let them be a kid. You know, they're just wearing these kids out, man.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And these parents say, as soon as their kid shows that they're good at one thing, better than, you know, the others, they just focus on that one thing. And it really sets these kids up, I think, for a real bad disappointment and failure, you know, and is just not a good thing psychologically. I mean, especially with football, because football is a whole other animal. You know, I mean, that literal blood part is inevitable. You know, the brain injury is inevitable. We know that now, you know, and every parent should know that.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You put your kid in football, he's getting brain damage. Okay. You put your five-year-old kid into football right now, you're giving him brain damage. As much as you're telling him to do his homework and get good grades so he can make it to the next level to play this game, you're, you know, it's counterproductive to what he's doing, you know. So, you know, it's people got to start waking up to the realities of the human body. It has only so much to give before it needs time. to recover and people don't let it recover enough no matter what it is you know so now you retire from st louis what's the first thing you did uh well i didn't retire from st louis they
Starting point is 00:50:59 released me and then uh that put me back out there i was out of football for two years um or a full year i was out of a contract in o five and then uh made it back to play i rehabbed my ass off and uh ended up getting clearance to go back to play and uh wound up pushing two more years out of it with the Chiefs and in Kansas City there and, you know, was able to walk away tall, you know, that I went back and made it back. I mean, my two best games, the most memorable, obviously, you know, my first game when I came in, but the most memorable was my comeback, you know, making it back from a major back injury. I mean, I lost a bunch of weight. I had to just get in the whole rocky thing, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:46 I'm back in the gym, I'm going to do it again type of deal. And, you know, just really hunkered down, went to amazing training facilities, and worked with all my old people again, you know, to get it back. And I made it. And, you know, that first game back was just unreal adrenaline. You know, so it was a good career, you know, very – I'm glad it went the way it did because it exposed me to a lot of the things that I've, you know, been working. working on for the past years that I've been retired with retired player issues and really
Starting point is 00:52:24 being vocal about it because having to go through that process of being the top and then taken all the way back to the bottom and experiencing what the average player in the National Football League experiences was priceless. You know, yeah, I lost a bunch of money and, you know, and had to. play for league minimum, all that stuff, and really grind it out, earn my job again, you know, where I had just earned it by the way I played the game, you know, but now you're injured and you made a comeback. You say, so you've got to fight for your job again now, okay, when they know you're the guy still. But, you know, you've got to prove it.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And so fought through all that, man, and it was an eye-opening experience, you know. And then over that course of time, a lot of things happened with the retired players. and it was you saw behind the curtain and boom there we are yeah big time once you see behind the curtain
Starting point is 00:53:23 and yeah it really affects you and kind of wish I didn't no you never once you see behind a curtain and you experience it and you live it you go I wish
Starting point is 00:53:33 I wouldn't have seen behind I tell Lee a thousand times Lee I love comedy until I started getting paid right I loved it
Starting point is 00:53:43 I love the excitement of going out and hustling and eating a burger or whatever. They gave you at the club and you went home. Once it got into money, it's where it sucks. Comedy just blows. Yeah. You know, on both sides. Yeah. Now I have to be something for sure.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Right. You follow me? When I'm a feature, I don't have to be anything. I just do 30 minutes and I go home and they give me a flat fucking feet. Well, I mean, we've talked a lot. It seems like there's a lot of parallels between sports and entertainment. We talked a lot of people. about what happened to Mitch Hechtberg.
Starting point is 00:54:14 You and I have talked about that a lot, that they just kept putting them out there. And then he ends up dead. He ended up dead. They didn't care. They cared, but they didn't care. And I understand it. I got a $10,000 weekend for you.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Come on, let's go. And I got three more behind that. And instead of going, you know what, take four months out of them, we just worked together for a year. I know you got 100 grand put away. Take six weeks off and call me back. And I'll have a whole list. But for those six weeks, I want to see you lifting weights.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I'll meet you once a week at the improv. Yeah, you know, that's the hustle, man. That's the hustle. You're absolutely right. It is what it is, you know. I don't regret one bit of it. Fuck no. I love all the things that happened to me because it's made me, you know, who I am in all
Starting point is 00:55:01 its good ways and bad ways, you know. But at the end of the day, I'm going to be able to, and my life is just going to be able to pass priceless knowledge to my kids, you know. and to a lot of other kids out there that decide to look into who was this guy what was this about and hopefully at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:55:21 they learned something you know and it was it's all been a part of the plan you know I really feel that there's a whole divinity around it you know as well as it's just the world but for a lot of reasons
Starting point is 00:55:36 you know things happen man and entertainment is entertainment though with with whatever it is comedy music I mean, I've toured the country coast to coast two, three times playing music now since. You know, I've stayed in this entertainment business. And, you know, I've experienced, I knew exactly what you're talking about with, you know, just having a burger, you know, and being at the bar with the bartender after the show, you know, and the staff. You know, over at the merch booth and just shaking hands and just, you know, at the end of the day, sitting back on the bus or in the green room and just going, ah, you know. That was amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:13 It was fun. We tried that joke. It worked. I'd go back today. If my body would allow it, I'd go back to play in football right now. You're knowing everything you know? Oh, yeah, 100%. League minimum?
Starting point is 00:56:24 League minimum. I could do it physically. Unfortunately, I'm not Randy Moss, so I can't. Apparently, he's going back to play. That'd be crazy if he came back. Yeah, he says he's coming back, man. So we'll see. It'd be awesome.
Starting point is 00:56:38 See it all the out there. I feel differently when it comes to all that. that stuff, man. I feel that, especially if you played football since the high school level, and then, I think after 37, 38, without little help. Yeah, it's rough. It's very rough. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Your eyes, your anti-eye, you know. I've lost a lot. Nobody really comes, nobody could admit it until you pass it 10 years. I'll tell you what, guys. I remember going to the doctor when I was a kid and going, Doc, I want glasses. And him going, your vision's fucking money. I can't give you glasses for years. At the age of 44 guys, I stopped saying.
Starting point is 00:57:21 And it got worse and worse. All those concerts I went to, I talk about, I brag about Judas Priest in the 80s and ACDs at the palladium. I can't hear, like tomorrow when we go to kettlebell class, I can't hear him talking. I just nodded my head. Because with the air and the fucking music and people talking.
Starting point is 00:57:42 What do you hear? I hear... Crowd noise. Crowd noise. Yeah. I hear crowd noise. Once I start to focus it, that's when I have vertigo.
Starting point is 00:57:52 You get vertigo? Yeah. I used to get it all the time. It's a fucking horror show. So I just leave it alone now. If you come up to me sometimes and talk to me and there's street noise and people talking,
Starting point is 00:58:03 I'm just nodding at you. I'm not fucking hearing it. Yeah. Because if I start to focus, I'll fucking pass. ass out. Yeah. Like, I get vertigo.
Starting point is 00:58:13 It's the weirdest thing, so I just leave it along. I don't fucking hear no more. Is it because I played football? Fucking, no. Now, let's, but I tell you what? How long did you play? Listen, I got hitting ahead a couple of times when I was a kid. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:58:26 I had a concussion one time. I fell off a motorcycle. It's all it takes. It's all it takes. I hit a pipe. What did I do? What was my football thing? I didn't play pee-wee football in North Bergen.
Starting point is 00:58:39 My mother had a bar in Union City. So I played peewee football one year in North Bergen And Union City And I went to Jack Lambert's football camp Offense, defense, Jack Ham, Jack Lambert Had a football camp Wow And I went there for a week
Starting point is 00:58:55 And I was all jazzed up about football And I came back And you're supposed to be 125 Or 135 In those days 125 for 6th grade and 7th grade and 135 for the 8th grade.
Starting point is 00:59:13 These are the really good guys. I think I was at 132 and I was too young to play for the 8th grade team. So I just focused on basketball. My freshman year, I went to play basketball and they said, listen, you got to play football to get in shape for basketball. Because the guy, the defense guy,
Starting point is 00:59:35 is the head coach of the basketball. So he'll put you on sprint drills and even though you won't play football, he won't let you play. You'll practice and you'll build a relationship that lasts about a fucking week. I was a basketball player. I didn't want to get fucking tackle.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Nah, that's a better choice, but you had some head injuries, so it does. It contributes to it, you know? I was a burglar. I got hit with a head with a pipe. Yeah, I was a burglar. I'm going to forget this one particular, the night that Ralphie
Starting point is 01:00:07 was here last week. Oh yeah? He was talking about PTSD. Yeah. And I got a bunch of fucking emails going on, what if Ralphie? Get hit in the headway or whatever. And I was thinking about it particular.
Starting point is 01:00:18 It was like July of 94. I hope you don't mind that tell this story, Kyle. Go ahead. I was basically broke. I was working at national car rental, washing cars,
Starting point is 01:00:32 and checking them in. And I was doing comedy every fucking night I could. I mean, all I wanted was a pain in my heart to do fucking comedy. I was 31 years old, and I would go to lunch and eat every day at this place in and out. From Valmont and 28th Street, because they made fresh chicken colors. It's not that shit you buy at stores. These motherfuckers went and got high-quality chicken colors, pounded them, dipped them an egg yolk, flour. Fucking real Italian breakworms.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Every day? fresh and then they let them cool down instead of fuck with them so when you got there they were crispy they're still there no they sold these four guys the one guy car he said it was in and out did they sell I think it was in and out I can't
Starting point is 01:01:19 the guy got one of them got caught selling a sending steroids over from Germany long distance that was the end of the restaurant business they sold the chain but my point being I used to meet this guy there once a week I always owed him on I used to buy coke from
Starting point is 01:01:34 and he was a weird Spanish dude I mean like no fucking English no nothing and we just happened to bump into each other on the right afternoon and he had a chunk of blow and I gave him like 300 miles and he gave it to me
Starting point is 01:01:49 and I was supposed to sell it and do this with it and do that with it and do this with it I took that shit home I did one line and it was all over I bolted down the door I think I ran to the liquor store bought a six pack of fat tire
Starting point is 01:02:04 I fucking got some rolling papers I went home I did that whole block It had to be four or five grams of blow This is some of the best blow I ever did the fucking 90s I mean I stayed up for a day and a half Wacking off
Starting point is 01:02:18 Crawled on the floor Snorting pieces of fucking ceilings It was horrible I must have taken 82 showers And then I fucking woke up the next day And I was hungry And I'll never forget what I felt like I felt like
Starting point is 01:02:32 I had brain damage. That was the one time, and I did Coke for 27 fucking years, and that night particular ran on. I didn't do, there was nights I went 18, 19 grams. When I was in my 20s, oh, I don't know nothing about that. Fuck yeah. When I was in my 20s, I could do
Starting point is 01:02:51 a chunk, me and this crazy dude from Tennessee. But in my 30s, I was little controlled, and I did that. And I'll never forget riding a bicycle the next day. Jesus. And going to eat at this place in and out. It wasn't in an hour. I forget what the fucking name it was. It could have been there. And I made
Starting point is 01:03:10 the left onto that with the bicycle. I'll never forget thinking my mind's never going to focus. Like it took me four days to recover. It wasn't an alcohol hangover. It was a strict. Chemical. It was a chemical hangover. It had jolted my central nervous system. This coke
Starting point is 01:03:27 was so fucking yummy. This coke was so fucking good. That till this day, things happen And I go, you know what? It's from that night with that blow. No way. Oh, yeah, I got mental fucking... Listen, when I quit doing coke,
Starting point is 01:03:41 I was getting electric shocks in my spine that my fucking neck would hurt and I'd have to fucking straighten up like that. So at any time, any day, this thing was going to short circuit. Well, same question that Kyle answered. Like, looking back on it, wouldn't you still do coke? Knowing what you know about it? Like, if you have brain damage from it,
Starting point is 01:04:04 I mean, it's a little different. It's a funny story, but I mean, to do that much and get fucking, that's a fuck-down. A little easier to do. They show some fucking half of Momo on TV. All right. My name is Joey Diaz. I did blow for 27 years.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Now I can't count backwards. Really? Nobody invites me to New Year's parties. Oh, man. Hey, well, you know, the problem is, Going back to the brain injury, it's about just protocol and recovery. We've never addressed the injury. You never addressed your injury from the drug issue or getting in a motorcycle accident or playing football or whatever it was.
Starting point is 01:04:51 You've never addressed your brain injury. I never had the opportunity to address my brain injury. We haven't thought about this enough. We haven't had any, on top of that, we haven't had anything. to help us medically, we've been given things that, frankly, are making it worse. You know, our country is being overrun with pharmaceuticals, and people are being prescribed things left and right, just freely like it's candy. And, you know, these things are making brain injuries so much worse.
Starting point is 01:05:24 You know, people with manic depression and anxiety and bipolar disorders don't need to be taking these chemicals. They have done a horrible job at creating these drugs. drugs because all they do is mask, as I've been on them, I've been on Wellbutrin and Zoloft and Deppicoat for the past six years. And these things, all they have done is masked the issue and then created a whole other realm of problems that didn't exist because of the side effects. You know, after about five years in on a psych med, you start to feel these needs. negative effects. You start reading the bottles and going, holy shit, you know, yeah, I'm thinking
Starting point is 01:06:08 about suicide more. I'm thinking about this more. I'm thinking about, I'm way more depressed, you know, like this is supposed to be addressing this. It does at certain times and your levels are right and then you feel good. But after, you know, good five years into psych med, it just starts preying on your brain on all those negative ways. So are you on that because of CTE or is that just I have been personally? I have been. I was. I've been off of those things for about six months now. But was it caused by CTE or was that just you personally? No, I think that there are some personal, I guess, inherencies in individuals. But the brain injury itself, from what we understand about it,
Starting point is 01:06:46 what I understand talking to the best doctors in the world on this, it's that it makes it all those issues that you might have going on. It exacerbates them, like 10,000 fold. So if you've got problems, if you've got a giggle problem, You know, and your brain is injured. It's going to make it, it's going to make it fucking go to the 10th level. All I saw is you did the sign of the cross and make you historically laughing. I think that edibles kicking in.
Starting point is 01:07:22 This brought you by anarchy edibles. Yeah, anarchy edibles. Well, speaking of, though, that's that's a great segue because it leads, leads to what, you know, I'm trying to do with that. I mean, you know, we've been given these things to deal with these issues, and they've made them, you know, worse, some better. And, you know, you know. I think marijuana can change the game, personally.
Starting point is 01:07:51 You know, I think marijuana is going to be the answer to helping us continue to be able to play our sports, play football, get brain injuries, and recover from them. Growing up, not really growing up, like, before I left, Jersey, I was fucking crazy. Right, come. He's to hang out this bar called the Midtown Lown. There was a guy that used to come in there, an Irish guy, Johnny Reed,
Starting point is 01:08:11 and he tried to kill himself. It's hilarious. Hold on, no, no, no, hold on. But he fucked up, and he landed in a garbage dumpster. And he banged his head on the way down. So they did, like, brain surgery.
Starting point is 01:08:32 He was never really the same. They sent them a check. You got a disability check from falling into the dumpster? They sent them like... They're trying to commit suicide. Like, they used to send him a monthly check. He'd take the check and give it to the bartender at the Midtown lounge, Tommy Sharpels. And then Tommy were telling him, like, by the fucking 24th.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Listen, you got no money left. But he would be okay in the mornings. You could talk to him. Like, Johnny, what's happening? I got to go see this guy about a fucking job. Things are fucking bad. You know, everybody's got a job. And then, after you have a couple.
Starting point is 01:09:03 drinks. He was crazy but not violent. And if he did get violent, he'd go in the corner and just throw punches by himself. Wait, was this the guy you locked in the bathroom? We locked him in the bathroom when they had a bar. Johnny Reed, but you're talking about people who were taking pills.
Starting point is 01:09:19 You know, this guy, I don't know if he was on medication, but he drank like a fucking fish. Either way, it's poison, man. The alcohol is in itself. It's feeling it. It's a chemical. It's it. It's a chemical. It's going to going into your bloodstream, going through your brain, and eating it away.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I'm talking about ref. I'm sorry to interrupt you. How does this come into the picture, my brother? Well, I just think that, you know, it's going to change the game on how we deal with brain injury, personally. To smoke when? During the games, after the game. You don't have to smoke it, you know, you know how it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:51 You're eating it. It drops, whatever, you know? They got it in patches, vaporizers, you know, these types of things. It's, you know, completely 100% healthy now. There's no excuse. for us to continue to say we don't know enough when our government owns a medicinal patent on it for a neuroprotectant and an anti-inflammatory. How do you know that enough? And, you know, my personal experience that's helped me to get off all those pharmaceuticals, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:19 So it's undeniable for me. And when you find your strains that really speak to your body, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. You know, you put you, you don't even have to feel high. You know, on the right strains, you don't even, it just, you feel great, you feel perfect, you feel normal. And you can tell that that's what all those, after being on psych meds and painkillers and all those other things, that's all they're trying to do is to mimic what, you know, I've personally found in certain strains, marijuana, you know, and the opiates as well.
Starting point is 01:10:53 It's all just synthetic versions of that stuff. Just push that back a little bit, just talking the great part. The grape, there we are. There we go. So you said one of your partners in this company is Ricky Williams. Yeah, Ricky and I have joined together. We've got a couple other partners out of San Diego. Michael Cendrick is a big-time attorney.
Starting point is 01:11:16 His dad was Ralph Cendrick, mega super agent back in the day, wrapped all the quarterbacks, and then the 80s, 90s, some early 2000s maybe. but we're putting together a good group of football players to really kind of progress the advancement of medicinal marijuana. You know, I mean, this is something that we need as athletes. You know, we've been getting killed by these pharmaceuticals left and right. So, you know, and some of us have had these experiences that have stuck with it and really been on the hunt to track this down as a medicine. And it's real. So, you know, we're organizing the guys that are familiar with it and understand it to get around it and help hopefully, you know, push the needle on it at all levels because this is not funny anymore.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Okay. People are dying daily right now. People are dying while we're talking from pharmaceutical drugs that they've been given, you know, just like nothing. You know, they write you that prescription so easily when it has side effects of death. You know, I mean, this is serious stuff. Marijuana has not killed a soul in the history of the world, you know. If it did, you'd be hearing about it a lot. And it makes no sense to why it's not legal for one in America. You know, we're supposed to be free, but medicinally that we continue to make the excuse that we don't know enough about a plant that's been around for thousands of years and used as a medicine.
Starting point is 01:12:52 That's absurd. So obviously, when you look at the history of the game, game that the government's created with this, you understand it. You understand that this has some high medicinal value, pun intended, that they don't want us to understand. So I think it's past time that they can control that because of social media and the information era that we're in. And professional athletes notoriously can move that needle. You know, if I can go from taking a cocktail of pharmaceuticals that encompasses, you know, 10 bottles as a daily regimen for since 1996, you know, I've been on a myriad of medications, unbelievable amounts of medications
Starting point is 01:13:40 for 20 plus years. And now I've been free of those for six months and I feel better than I felt in probably 10 years and dealing with things on a whole other level psychologically. emotionally, et cetera. These drugs were not helping. They were, they're a facade. Some people need certain medications to deal with things. I'm not going on full Tom Cruise, but, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:09 You should have the option. You should have the opportunity. Yeah, exactly. At the end of the day, it's absurd, and especially in America, that we don't have the option of cannabis as a medicine. And the NFL has, like, I'm pretty just like a zero.
Starting point is 01:14:24 tolerance because with Josh Gordon and all these years are just being taken away from people. Their whole livelihood. They've been made to be these criminals. I mean, how many of these guys that just get pulled over for having weed and now they're a thug? You know, they're from this, oh yeah,
Starting point is 01:14:42 they were, you know, from this area of New Orleans or Chicago, of course, or L.A., whatever. You know, these guys are just thugs, you know. And all the dude had was something that a judge is carrying in his fucking car, from the courthouse every fucking day in America. So is that why you're, because as a fan, like sometimes when the Josh Gordon stuff happens, or when any player happens and they get caught for stuff like that, you're like,
Starting point is 01:15:06 you're getting paid millions of dollars, why can't you just not smoke weed when you're going to get tested or done this for those few years? But what your point is is that it actually is not just for fun. If someone, especially in a problem situation like that, okay, you have to look at what's going on. Why are they doing this? this is obviously a medication for them. They'll prescribe you all these drugs, okay, that will do what they think this does, okay, right here.
Starting point is 01:15:34 But at the end of the day, it doesn't. And that's why players do it. That's why lawyers do it, doctors do it, judges do it, presidents of our own country do it, and people around the world do it at the highest levels of leadership and accomplishment and everything else. it's because it works better than anything else. And at the end of the day, it's a natural element that's not going to kill you. So as an athlete, and you're looking at a handful of pills versus what we have today, I don't understand why a player can't be prescribed this and should be prescribed this after a concussion.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I mean, this is ridiculous. These things come in little compacts now. Here, okay, this is going to last you about a week or two. go home, sit in a dark room, air conditioning on, listen to some Zeppelin and fucking chill out, you know, for a week and hopefully let this brain thing calm itself down. No, we need to get back on the field as soon as possible, and marijuana's evil.
Starting point is 01:16:33 You know, when it's proven to slow the progression of Alzheimer's, that's a football disease. That is our disease. We own that disease right now. There's no other sport in America that we're in the world that owns Alzheimer's disease and dementia. like football does. And it's, you know, ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:16:56 It's not an option. And that the league has this stance on it when it's something that could be and should just be, you know, free as an American to do, I mean, while they're promoting Budweiser and every other alcohol, alcoholic beverage that sends people to the hospitals into the morgue after every football game on every weekend coming up here, as the football season is about to begin, all you've got to do is look at the statistics of,
Starting point is 01:17:21 death on the freeways from accidents after on weekends during football season they're pretty high you know I mean while they're promoting this it's just hypocritical that they would be striking players down knowing the medicinal value for one but you know that it's that mind is still in 1969 yeah and it will be there for the next 20 years 20 30 years these people are ridiculous and the things you talk about they know I mean they know these things so and they look at it as as a drug still. You know, and don't they,
Starting point is 01:17:55 you always hear all these rumors that they don't test for T-HC and the NBA. They used to not. I think they do now. Right, they don't, or they do not. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:18:03 now I think they do, but I don't know how strict it is. I know that they didn't, you know, they didn't test for anything. How often do they test you as an NFL player? NFL players only have
Starting point is 01:18:13 one test a year for street drugs. So that's the other thing. I mean, you know, if they were really staunch against it, then they should be putting it in the random drug testing program. But they don't.
Starting point is 01:18:21 They put it in just as once a year test. You take it. Everybody knows it's coming right around training camp, and you just, you know, get right. That's why it's been illegal in the NFL. They have this weird mentality of wanting, I guess, to weed out these guys that they don't think are, you know, team guys or whatever, you know, for the organization.
Starting point is 01:18:42 They're looking for fall guys instead of football players, you know. It's a real... It's a business. It's a corporation. Exactly. You've got a bunch of business guys running a fucking sport that they don't need to be running because it's bigger than that. It's much bigger than their bankrolls. It's much bigger than their private jets.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Football is not a sport like any other. You play this game. You make it to that level. It's modern day gladiators. You know, I mean, rugby players as well. I mean, these are gladiator sports. MMA, you know, to achieve the greatness of mixed martial arts. The UFC.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Especially for players who are played positions like yours, like the linemen or maybe the linebackers. Rugby players. Receivers can hit too. And so like, winding backs have like a three-year career, which is pretty crazy. That's the average length career in National Football League. What's the offensive lineman career? The average length of an NFL career is three and a half years. I guess statistically linemen have longer careers, you know, because you don't have to keep your speed as much, you know, as these other positions.
Starting point is 01:19:50 skill positions, they call it. You know, at the line, you can lose a step, you know. I can come off a bad back injury and lose a step and still play a line, you know, whereas you play receiver or, you know, DB, you're getting burnt, you know. So it's, yeah. But that doesn't really make sense because for receivers, you don't get hit every play. As a lineman or like a linebacker, you're just like, like there's a player. I forget who, what is, it was either Mankins or so I'm a person.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Patriots favorite, and he played with a torn ACL for like half the season as like a alignment. Put a knee brace on, tape it up. Yeah, man. Jack Lambert, taped a magazine to his broken tibia, ran back out there with a magazine bracing his broken leg with duct tape. Well, that's with adrenaline and stuff. That's part of the other thing that's always been interesting to me. Why are you playing the game and why you're in the game? and why you're in there
Starting point is 01:20:51 and knowing the pressure that you're replaced the next fucking day they got four guys behind you while you're in the action you're taking those testosterone shots you're taking those fucking
Starting point is 01:21:03 cortisone shots I'm sorry yeah pain killers yeah you're eating the fucking painkillers because this is what you do guys this is what the fuck you do yeah but you didn't know we didn't know
Starting point is 01:21:15 you know and you don't know We didn't understand the serious nature. You know, they started letting guys know that, hey, you know, shortly after your career's over with, your kidneys are going to shut down. You know, you think down the road, when you think in injuries in football, you know, you just think, you don't think it's going to come so soon, you know, the serious ones. I mean, you've got guys that are going down right now from all these medications with their kidneys and livers left and right. You know, alcohol is a problem with issue too, but it's the pharmaceutical drugs that are just overloading our systems. I was wondering that. Are you, did anyone ever come to you and say, you have to take this or you have to go out sooner?
Starting point is 01:21:58 Or is it just what Joey said, and you know that if you don't and you're out for an extended period of time, your job is on? That's why they don't have to say it. When you don't have a guaranteed contract and there's a guy sitting there ready to go and you know that you're not going to get the time to recover from that injury if you don't. go, then, you know, that's the problem. I just gave you, I just got you out of debt. I got you to give that beautiful fucking girlfriend a big diamond ring. She's knocked up. You're two years in. You're a year away from renewal.
Starting point is 01:22:32 You know, you had fucking three sacks. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, something happens. Your shoulder hurts. They ain't going to hurt that much. The guy across from you, he's been fucking on your season. You and I both know you don't have time to miss two fucking games. This guy has the game of his life. You're running uphill now.
Starting point is 01:22:53 It's that fucking fast. What do you do? Do you feel that way with comedy? Huh? Do you feel that way with comedy? Because I'm the type of person I am. I feel that way with everything in life. You got to. I feel that way with everything in life. You got to go, man. I remember Don Romero and I was a basketball guy.
Starting point is 01:23:12 And I told you that in those days, the other day I walked around early. I walked the jih Tzu and the sun was shining on me a weird way this morning. At 9.30 in the morning, I was like, wow, this reminds me of an East Coast morning when I would leave the house early just to go take 300 shots. I once heard that Jerry West used to shoot 300 shots, just jump shots every day. So I said, this is what I'm going to do before I even go play. I'm going to just shoot 300 fucking jump shots. and you know you have to assume that if you're not practicing
Starting point is 01:23:48 that guy you're going up against he's practicing he's in the fucking gym right now doing jumping jacks you're on the couch because you're near it's really really all your life you've worked with
Starting point is 01:23:57 there's a difference you know with injury that's the that's the thin line that they've kind of treaded in the national football league with players you know this you need to know the difference
Starting point is 01:24:09 between pain and injury has been the saying the motto That's what they, I'm sure, still speak about today. At the end of the season, they're like, oh, everyone's heard of this point. I mean, when you know, I mean, if the difference is a player's going to go no matter what. You're going to have a guaranteed contract, then you're going to go no matter what, okay? If the doctor tells you, hey, look, your shoulder's torn, you know, it might cause you to, as a professional athlete,
Starting point is 01:24:37 it would likely cause you to take a step back and say, do I want to go out? there and risk ripping it completely away from the bone right now. In my back injury, if I would have been told, hey, you got the makings of a real bad herniated disc right now. It's probably just bulging, you know, you might want to think about taking off because otherwise it's going to herniate and then it's going to be a surgery situation for sure. No, we don't heal in two weeks. Do what you need to do.
Starting point is 01:25:04 That's what they show. Fuck yet. That's what they show. They throw their Hippocratic oath out the window because they're protected by their collective bargaining agreement. that our fucking fake-ass union negotiates with the National Football League all the time to let these doctors just run freely away from any recourse from their advice. Who's making that decision?
Starting point is 01:25:27 Is it the doctor? Does the general manager tell the doctors? Oh, yeah. At the end of the day, they have a meeting with the doctors. And those people sit in the rooms with the coaches and the general managers and the doctors. And the doctor will give his report. They'll sit in a boardroom like this with people. all around and they'll have the injury report and a doctor will come in and he'll say this is what
Starting point is 01:25:46 I got and they'll say to him, okay, how bad is it? And the doctor goes, well, and then that's when it starts to happen. They start piecing those injuries away and saying, well, okay, it's just kind of a minor terror, it's a minor spraying. Okay, can you tape it up? Yeah, I think we can get away with that. I think we can do it. And these doctors sit up there and tell these coaches that, yeah, and that's how they get hired, you know. I mean, I've had friends that have sat in these meetings with these assholes that are willing to just wash away any advice to the player and just give it all to the team. You know, I mean, they don't care one bit because they're not paid to, you know, and they
Starting point is 01:26:25 know they can walk away. That's the biggest crime that's been committed is that these doctors can walk away. There's no vested interest by the team or these doctors for these players to be healthy because they can walk away clean from any bad information given. Doctors are like insurance adjusters. They're there to basically cut you off. They're there to say, you know what? You're okay.
Starting point is 01:26:49 I'm clearing you to go back on the field. You know what? You don't really need to be in the hospital for three days. We're going to send you home in a day. Meanwhile, you're not ready to fucking go home. And if you go get a second opinion, then you become a guy who doesn't want to play with the team. You know, if a guy says, well, that doesn't feel right to me.
Starting point is 01:27:08 I'm going to go get a second opinion. The answer from your doctor doesn't seem right. this injury. It seems a lot worse. And I have the right within the collective bargaining agreement to go get a second opinion. But when you do that, and you're not a, you know, a big time guy, then you become a marked man. And even if you are a big time guy, you become a mark. I became a marked man. You know, when I came out here to L.A. to the back surgeon, and he said, I can't believe they put you back out there after four months off of back surgery. You were back into two a days. And I was like, yeah, man. And he's like, you can't even lift your foot up. You got drop foot so bad
Starting point is 01:27:41 that I wouldn't clear you want a basic physical right now to go do anything but, you know, general rehab. He's that, and, you know, but those doctors are, oh, you're good to go. Here, you know, try to touch your toes and here, try to touch your nose. Okay, go out there, you know, go play. There's no, there's no proper protocol to recovery from injury at any level. I mean, they got all the tools, they got all the drugs and medications and rehab equipment and the best masseuses and chiropractors and therapists and this, that, and the other. But it's all there just to hurry that process up instead of to really address,
Starting point is 01:28:17 okay, you might want to take a few weeks off here. And let's do that before you go back to the field. Otherwise, you know, they'll never give you that information. I mean, they'll vaguely elude to serious situations, but they're never going to stop the player from going. I really hate the loyalty conversation. Like, for me personally, I'll be loyal to Joey until the day I die because he's taking care of me since I've been out here in L.A. And especially in podcasts, a lot of podcasts, they don't take care of the producers at all.
Starting point is 01:28:48 They're lucky if they get $25 bucks. So I'll be loyal to you until the day I die. But there's, especially in sports, how can they even bring up loyalty when they'll trade you? And that's fine. That's part of the business. But if they're not loyal to the players at all, how can they push it back? It doesn't make sense. That's where they lose the players, you know?
Starting point is 01:29:08 Today you realize you're a fucking piece of meat. That's why you have class action lawsuits. That's why the game has been trudged through the mud because they haven't chosen to do the right thing. They haven't chosen to honor the benefits. They set all these things up and make it look like, oh, we have all these great programs just out and the other. And at the end of the day, they don't follow through. They don't, I mean, no union worth of shit in America is going to let an employee leave the job injured without receiving full benefits. and as an NFL football player who's supposed to have the best union in America,
Starting point is 01:29:42 you know, they paraded around so heavily, you have to fight against your own union to get them to get your benefits. I mean, the boards that they have in place that make decisions on who gets disability and who doesn't is set up with guys that aren't even doctors. They're just ex-football players that have personal opinions, you know, and Roger Goodell. What the fuck do you know about it, asshole? You played in college for a minute.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Your daddy was a politician. You held coffee for fucking Pete Roselle for, I don't know how many years, and sniff jocks around the locker rooms. You think you earned the right to be where you were at just because of that. And I don't have more of a stance than you do in this, and you don't want to sit and try to listen and understand what's going on. That's why I have all these problems in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:30:33 It's why it's looked so ugly and why we're losing. a fan base and all these parents don't want to put their kids in. Everybody's blaming concussions. It's not because of concussions. It's because these parents are sitting at home going, Jesus, I don't want my kid to grow up in that sport. These guys are a bunch of fucking idiots. Let me give some shoutouts real quick. We'll get to the next thing here. Jonathan Colby, and I love you, cocksucker. Aldean Franco, Marcus Lamos. Thank you. Anthony Torito and Buffalo. Get it together. Jonas Presadio. Happy birthday. My main man Malcolm Riddle, happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:31:09 And Amy, another one, two. Love you. Go ahead, asking. I'm sorry for interrupt. It's not even just the medical part of it. I've got to give the shoutouts, man. Huh? Got to give the shout outs.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Sure, these people are fucking loyal savages. Damn right. You got to take care of these motherfuck. Listen, man, at the end of the day, we're all corporate. My wife worked at a corporation, 10 years. When in there when she was fucking sick. You know, I used to talk to her at night. I used to tell her calm down.
Starting point is 01:31:38 She's a fucking American. She believes in her job. She gets knocked up. We have the kid. She goes back. She asks for a raise to give her 3%. My wife was furious. She quit.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Next lady comes along. They started at $30,000 more and took away three of her jobs. We live in some fucking weird time with no loyalty. And at the end of the day, you realize you're a fucking piece of me. You're a
Starting point is 01:32:06 fucking piece of me. And that's the world though, you know. I mean, that's the real world and that's what people need to understand. But that type of shit, they stop fighting. That type of shit shouldn't exist in football, man. It shouldn't exist in the NFL. It's too great of an accomplishment, you know.
Starting point is 01:32:22 I mean, not the lesson anybody's accomplishments, you know, how long they work at companies or anything like that. It's just to achieve that physical greatness just requires such a an unbelievable dedication that people don't understand. To be in the fucking NFL.
Starting point is 01:32:39 They just see little things and it just kind of looks easy. So most people just kind of take it for granted. The amount of dedication that goes into accomplishing that dream to make it to the NFL is unreal. There's nothing. I've surfed waves, the size of buildings.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I've done anything. I've been in shark waters. There's nothing that compares to play in the National Football League in that adrenaline rush and that sense of accomplishment. I mean, I mean, I've had kids and, you know, of course, my kids are unbelievable and it's, you know, having my wife, every time I've been married 13 years. I just have so many great things, but nothing in the world compares to that rush.
Starting point is 01:33:26 It's another level, another level, man. Running out there on a Monday night. I do it right now. I've run through a brick wall to do that right now. I just can't run anymore. Me too. I fucking love to play Monday Night Football. You get to me, Lee, Zayette.
Starting point is 01:33:43 That'd be crazy. How crazy. 80,000 people just exploding. Unreal. What happened to Monday night football? I was telling Lee, when I was young, young, Monday Night Football started at 9 p.m. in New York City. 6 p.m. here.
Starting point is 01:34:02 And nine o'clock that fucking game started. That's late. And if the game was great, that game went until fucking midnight. At least. 12.30. Yeah. And I was telling me a particular game, San Diego play, when they had an air coriol coaching.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Yeah. Don Coriol. And they went back and forth. I think it was them in the Minneapolis, Minnesota Vikings. They went back and forth. And they beat them like 54, 53, with, you know, three minutes left and overtime. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:34:34 A hundred points in a football game on a Monday night. Monday night, she... As Eric Coriel, man. Lee, right now, we would not... Father of the passing game. 25 years ago, Lee, we would not be doing this podcast right now. Wouldn't even be a thought?
Starting point is 01:34:49 I wouldn't even consider it because Monday nights was an event. Yeah. From the time, I must have been the seventh grade, but it got built up. By the time the 80s hit, it was fucking huge. People are having parties in bars or you could eat or you could drink, you know, meatballs, you know, this, that. So you went to the bar who had the best food.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Some people had buffets for Monday nights. Monday nights? Drink specials. Fucking women were out. People were out doing blow. People were smoking dope. Monday night. You used to sacrifice.
Starting point is 01:35:22 As an entertainer, it became a, you couldn't book shows on Monday night. No, nothing. Nothing with nothing. You didn't get, you went out and got so fucked up. for those two hours that you didn't do comedy after that, like I never I always sit there and go what the fuck
Starting point is 01:35:39 happened to Monday nights. Thursday, then Thursday night even I don't like Thursday night games. But for a minute there it was huge you know, whatever night they wanted to pick man. Football was became America's sport, you know, really did. In 1994
Starting point is 01:35:54 I worked for a sports betting service in Boulder, Colorado. And we work Lee, Jew hours. These guys were Jew. These guys were Jews, dog. They worked fucking hours. So the only day you had off during football season was Wednesdays.
Starting point is 01:36:11 That's it. Wednesdays. And you had to work. Starting Friday at 7 o' morning, you went to about 7.30 at night. Saturday, big college day. If you could be there at 5 in the morning, you'd be there until 7 at night. Sunday, big pro football. Again, 7 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:36:29 the fucking 6 o'clock at night league so Monday guess what you were in it's your biggest day of the week Monday's when people lose $800 and you got to get them back and they call you for a fucking winner so this is the day you work your ass off at that day the guy who owned that place on Monday nights would rent out the bar every Monday would be a different fucking place and we could eat for free till half time whatever the bar used to eat like those potatoes those you like with bacon and shit in the middle like savages. Which one? Like the baked potato, like the load of baked materials.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Yeah. Like all that type of shit. But Monday nights in this country were huge. There's too much now. Well, I don't want to say too much. Then it went to ESPN. Right. It's still big. You know, it's not it's not what it was. Do they even have
Starting point is 01:37:21 Monday football? Yeah. Yeah, they got money. They do? They have two games, I'm pretty sure. Don't they have an early game in a late game sometimes? I think so. Yeah. I'm not sure. It's still a big deal. It's just not what it was. You know, now it's just super commercialized and all about your house. I mean, people are
Starting point is 01:37:37 just staying at home now. They're capitalizing because all the TVs and everything, you know, people are going out still watching Monday Night Football. They'll go out to sports bars and stuff, but not like it was. Now, tell me this. Was there as many commercials as there are now? Because there's a ton of commercials in football games.
Starting point is 01:37:53 It's almost all commercial. That's the beauty that has, that's how brilliant they are. Do you know how many minutes make up an NFL, an average NFL football game of action? You know, of actual play, how many minutes do you think? Well, at the 60 minute clock. For an entire game, how many minutes of actual action do you think there is in an NFL football game? Ten? Yeah, like between 10 and 14 minutes, between 10 and 14 minutes of,
Starting point is 01:38:27 play time. That's it. That's all the action that's bawled into this experience because there's so many commercials and they replays and they've just become the masters at keeping people's attention without providing a consistent game of action.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Literally 12 minutes or something like that's the average of an NFL football game of action. That shows how exciting. For three fucking hours you're watching this thing and at the end of the day it's 12 minutes. Every play is only a few seconds, you know. You know me, I used to go to people's houses, but once the fucking onion dip was gone, I got to go, bitch.
Starting point is 01:39:07 You're fucked up! Where's that fucking right out of the container, too, that fucking French onion dip? That's good, yeah. With some ruffles, potato chips when you're stoned to the gills, 64-ounce bottle of Coke, just fucking dipping those things. With that alone, why wouldn't they legalize marijuana? Why would they be promoting it? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:39:24 We used to get fucked up. How much money do you think, like, you think? If you could look at it, like, money spent, like, I used to not want to watch it. I'm still heavy, but I lost a lot of weight. I used to not watch a football game without pizza and wings. Right. Like, how much money do you think is made throughout the whole thing, including, like... What does it generate?
Starting point is 01:39:44 Yeah, just billions. Between pizza, people taking cabs to... That's why they control the stadiums, people taking fucking cabs to bars. I was thinking I went to the Red Sox game, and it's in the middle of the city. It's cost like 50 bucks to park. So we took the subway in. How much money do you think? There's 81 Red Sox games every year.
Starting point is 01:40:01 How much money do you think the subway makes just those nights? I don't know about that, but I know one thing when I was in St. Louis. A guy stood outside. They did an article on him. He said he was tired and he was going to quit so he wanted to give up his ghost here with what he was doing. This guy stood outside Cardinal Stilled Bush Stadium. Only during baseball stadium and asked everybody that he would come in contact with. They had a dollar.
Starting point is 01:40:24 and he sat out there only during baseball season, home games only, and he said on an average he made during every baseball season like $70,000 to $80,000. Just asking people for a dollar. He drove a bends and lived in a nice house, everything. And he got to the point where he was doing it all the time. Wait, we're sending you up to dodging me. I was just going to say I said I was going to be loyal to you, but I quit. I'm moving back to Boston.
Starting point is 01:40:54 I'm going to go ask for a dollar. outside of them. Yeah, it's crazy. The amount of money that's generated in that business is unreal. Merchandise, I mean, you know merch selling T-shirts and shit, man. I mean, they're selling them for 50 bucks. For a T-shirt. An NFL jersey is 100 bucks.
Starting point is 01:41:12 At least. That's for a shitty one, you know? And you don't get a piece of that. Players get a chunk, you know. Really? But it's all profit shared. But at the end of the day, the players have to pay for their own medical and all the other people, you know, everything.
Starting point is 01:41:25 The players end up paying for all the benefits at the end of the day. It comes out of the player pools. The league contributes very little money. How much of a pension do you get from the NFL? How many years do you have to pay? Pensions are shit. They're the worst. Football pensions are the worst.
Starting point is 01:41:42 And you don't get it until you're like 50 or 55 or something like that. And you're probably like 35 when you retire. The average life expectancy of an NFL offensive lineman is 55. or 57 or something, you know, I don't know what it is. It's ridiculous, you know. They've adjusted some of those things, those rules with retirement benefits and stuff, but there's still shit. Baseball's got way better benefits packages and everything.
Starting point is 01:42:10 I mean, but, you know, they've got a lot of good things set up now. They just don't like giving the benefits to people. They'll fight them until the end, you know, to keep them from getting their benefits. They won't accept your 10-inch-thick medical file over, some third-party doctor that is working for them, you know, knowing that he's going to say that all these new cognitive issues you're having didn't stem from football, you know. And that's why the loyalty thing doesn't make sense to me. Like, we just signed Reggie Wayne today because the Colts wouldn't re-sign him. The Colts are still making money off of Reggie Wayne.
Starting point is 01:42:48 They could have signed him to whatever the Patriot signed him and let him be on the team just for his 15th the year. Bain Manning. Yeah. Bain Manning should have died a Colt. What the hell? That's ridiculous. They, you know, there's no loyalties at all in the National Football League. It is not for long, as the old coach said. And that's more true than in any other sport.
Starting point is 01:43:10 The National Football League, there's no guaranteed contracts for the players or lifetime medical. So there's no vested interests on behalf of the teams or doctors, anybody else, the agents or whatever it is. It all falls down to the player. When I was a kid, I was a fan, guys. I was a fan. I went to baseball games, the football games, basketball games. And I'll tell you,
Starting point is 01:43:37 it's not like they reached out to you and lit you fucking cigarette at these things. But it just seemed like they weren't trying to fucking rob you. I went to a thousand basketball games in Master Square Garden. You know how lucky I was as a kid, Lee? I didn't feel like I was going to get robbed. If anything, I always snuck in there for $10, $15, shit like that. When I go to an event now, I feel like I'm getting fucking robbed.
Starting point is 01:44:05 And I... Raped. I couldn't even imagine... Worse than robbed. Being a fan. You know, with the fucking Laker Games, with the fucking... Just regular... Yeah, and there's some organizations that are giving out dollar tickets.
Starting point is 01:44:17 I don't think they're in football. It's never... It's never the good ones. Not in football. In Boston, the low... Most tickets can be like 20-something for the bleachers. What did you pay close tickets to end? I got, I paid like 44 each and they were, they were, the ticket price was 56, but the
Starting point is 01:44:30 Red Sox sucked this year. But even still, I paid 44. We were sitting, like, pretty good seats, like kind of behind home plate. $44. Which is great. But we were like in the seats that were literally there from like 1930. But only $44? That's, I mean, that's, I, for the front row, it's like $5, $700.
Starting point is 01:44:49 My buddy just tried to buy some. some tickets for him and his boy. They're huge Saints fans. They live out here in the valley. And they wanted to go see the team in Arizona when they play the Cardinals this year. And so he goes to look online for tickets.
Starting point is 01:45:05 And the cheapest tickets with at least a decency was like back in the corner of the end zone. $500. $500. Off the company. A ticket. Well, I think that isn't that why like tickets are scarce and there
Starting point is 01:45:21 people are selling them on eBay and stuff? Still, you've created a system here that doesn't allow fans to go to the game. It's just a party. It's a who's who. It's back to, I mean, they only let so many tickets, I think back in the day, go to, you know, out in the market to, you know, just bulk purchases like they do now. I mean, they allow these companies to come in and purchase blocks of tickets. that then go on these websites and, you know, people are selling them all over. We didn't have social media like we had, you know.
Starting point is 01:45:58 So now it's just become this bastardized deal where it puts the little man out of the game. So ultimately they can say, well, we only charge that much. But at the end of the day, you set up the system to fuck the little guy, you know. Well, they're guaranteed to sell all those tickets. Because they don't, once the stub hub or whatever buys those tickets, they don't give a shit if the tickets gets sold. Hey, you got to wait until the last minute, you know, and hopefully get a deal. but right from the beginning I mean it hasn't even been started yet
Starting point is 01:46:23 the season they haven't even they're not ready to go to that game I don't know when that game is how far out it is but you know he looked out what he thought was plenty of time to get tickets and you know they're at 500 bucks
Starting point is 01:46:37 I mean months away from the game and he's looked to buy him tickets for him and his kid you know and it's yeah I get it it's entertainment and you got to but at the same time they've priced out real football fans.
Starting point is 01:46:52 You know, the game changed. I saw it change over my career. 98 into the 2000s became the shift, you know, where the media and the whole entertainment thing just kind of took over. And it wasn't about the players anymore and the history of the game and the loyalties and all these other things. It just became about this huge party, Monday Night Football's and all these things that were just going out of control.
Starting point is 01:47:19 and the amount of money that was getting thrown around. And so it just kind of lost its meaning, you know, where people used to go and sit and, you know, dressed up and watch the games. And now it's chugging beers and eating popcorn. And I paid 500 fucking bucks for these tickets. You're not going to tell me to shut up lady type of stuff, you know. And, you know, that's what the games turned into, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:43 a reflection of the time. No, a reflection of the way they've, you know, wanted the league to go the way that they've created it. A lot of times, like, a lot of companies will have sweets and stuff, and that's why tickets get so high
Starting point is 01:47:57 because these companies can pay a lot of money. And real fans aren't there? My dad worked at a seafood place in Boston, and they had seats above home plate, right where the press box is, like behind glass, and there's waiters, and it's great stuff.
Starting point is 01:48:10 But I hated. I love, I didn't hate it. It was cool to watch the game from there, but my favorite place to watch the game from is the bleachers. Sure. It's such a different experience. And it's so much fun.
Starting point is 01:48:21 It is. And it's not anymore. You know? I mean, it is, but it isn't. It's just a big spectacle. It's fun to go see the whole deal just for the experience because it's so massive now. And all the bright lights and big screen TVs. I mean, hell, Dallas Cowboys Stadium, you don't even, you can't even see the field.
Starting point is 01:48:37 You don't have to. They got a massive screen in the middle of the, you know, in the middle of the stadium there that's as big as the field. So that's what it's turned into. It's unfortunate, you know. As a player, it just sucks because you, you, you know, all this is fine and this is great and all. But at the end of the day, you see all this growth, you see all this money and wealth and power and all these things just growing. And you see the guys that built it and they're down here and they're in wheelchairs and they're fucked. And they can't, their wives can't take care of them because they're a spouse.
Starting point is 01:49:18 I mean, guys have gotten divorced. so that they can get the money from the NFL to be the primary caretaker because it can't be a spouse, you know, guys that have had Alzheimer's, dementia, bad situations, ALS situations. And the league and the union doesn't care to honor their disabilities and allow them to, you know, live a decent life after that. Or these little kids, you know, that are getting these spinals in these wheelchairs, you know, that can't walk anymore. And they just go away, you know, go away. And if we would only protect that and put a priority on honoring those individuals that sacrificed, you know, and for the dream, we wouldn't be where we're at with all the negative talk. You know, we'd be praising football still and wanting all our kids to play it because at the end of the day, it does teach some great things. but it's gotten lost completely on the whole entertainment aspect of it.
Starting point is 01:50:23 It's created a monster that they can't control where all these kids now. It's not about making it to the NFL to honor those guys that you saw coming up. I mean, it was Danny White, Tony Dorset for me, the Dallas Cowboys, and then watching Howie Long. I mean, just made me want to be like him, you know, I mean, watching those guys. And I'm sure these young kids today are, you know, the same. They're watching their favorite players. But because of the commercialization of it and how the league doesn't really have,
Starting point is 01:50:54 and the kids they see this, how they don't have the players' backs and, you know, this whole mess that's gone on. These kids today, I mean, they're showing up with earrings on. You know, I mean, that all kind of started with Dionne Sanders and then just trickled down, you know, and you still have it today with guys like Chris Carter that are going to say, get yourself a fall guy you know they don't want to hear from guys like me they will never bring me to the rookie symposium
Starting point is 01:51:18 because I'm going to tell their players what the fuck they need to know they would rather bring guys like that to the rookie symposium so they can tell them what they want them to know and that that is we own you motherfucker so do what we say
Starting point is 01:51:33 and we'll take care of you if you don't do what we say and you don't keep in line and you step out and you say a few things here you don't act like you want to go along with this then fuck you you know and that at the end of the
Starting point is 01:51:50 day is what all these kids are seeing and that's corrupted football and it's just it's just a big old entertainment industry now and all these kids are out for that money at the end of the day like ballers ballers let's wrap this fucking up here
Starting point is 01:52:05 you talk to our sponsors that was fucking great man what's up Lee how you you're feeling. You ain't even know. I'm fine as fuck. No, you know. You gave me like an entire tip of us. No, we're going to finish. There's brown. There's brown. You're fine.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Jesus Christ. Look, I can see it in your face. You got no blotches. You're looking good. The Boston there, did you eat pizza? No. What, you got hot dogs? No, just, uh, legal. Don't be bullshit. You guys need them. You need them kettlebells in here. Shit. That'd be fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:34 I'm really liking that class. Put them in here? Yeah. But to do it nice? Get a microphone. shit, you guys are eating enough edibles. You need to burn that shit off. I'll fucking pass out.
Starting point is 01:52:47 I almost passed out here 10 minutes ago. I swear to God. Oh, yeah. I couldn't look at it. I don't know how to have it. We're going to, me and Ricky, we're going to create a whole line of nutritional edibles that are going to be like protein bars and drinks and shakes and all kinds of stuff. But we're going to put some good stuff in there and try to get people to use it at the right times.
Starting point is 01:53:09 and we believe it's going to make a big difference. Right after a nice workout, 22 grams of protein. Exactly. 150 milligrams of fucking high-powered Mexican fucking seed refo... 150 milligrams. You really need to make one for Joey like 700 milligrams. 150 doesn't even... It doesn't a drop in the bucket to you anymore.
Starting point is 01:53:29 150 a fine, refined, refined, way, fucking T.H.C. Reefa protein mix. The exact amount. The right amount. What's the... The gonzaga juice from the... from the jungles of Brazil and the Peruvian nut, a specialized nut that flies in twice a year from the jungles of...
Starting point is 01:53:47 The nut flies in? They fly the fucking thing in from the jungles of Thuimbamba, Colombia. They use it for energy. When they run out of cocaine, they eat this thing. People will fucking drink those protein shakes up. You make a nice chocolate, espresso, chocolate. It would make the gym. Nice to remember what it was high?
Starting point is 01:54:07 Sure, and a super duper. loop of fucking special Kyle milkshake with peanut butter, wheat germ fucking almond milk, the whole thing. Tell them, dog. With 150 TH80 milligrams it's called you ain't going
Starting point is 01:54:22 nowhere protein shake. In fact, get on a top second. I'm not going to say nothing. You just cut my commercial. There you go. Who the fucking think you're dealing with some fucking novice from yesterday, Bill? Let me give some shoutouts here to my main motherfuckers on it. Always
Starting point is 01:54:38 fucking keeping me together. You didn't take that stuff to turn around 180. I know. I need some at the house. You have to blast, listen, man. I've spoken to three, four people in two weeks that told me they flown and they got sick. I fly all the fucking time.
Starting point is 01:54:55 I used to get sick all the time. And there's a reason why I don't get sick anymore. It's that fucking on it, that turnaround 180. I blast a baby fucking pill. I blast two fucking those things. I put that powder in the thing. and I stare it up and I drink with water. When I start traveling, we'll have to get some.
Starting point is 01:55:12 And I avoid anything. I wipe the table down with the towelette. I wipe my fingers down. I don't touch shit on that fucking plane. When I come off the plane, there's nothing but a shower in my future. I check in, I swear to God, I don't fuck around. I hear you. I hear you. These motherfuckers walk around after they fly and mingle with people. They ain't no mingling.
Starting point is 01:55:29 They ain't no mingling. I forgot about that. There's screens now that I was touching the entire three of the four flights. Yeah, you just not at the airport. I'll tell you, though. I've been off of pharmaceuticals for six months. months, my family, my wife, my kids, I got little ones. They've been sick a couple times. I usually get sick when they get sick. And since I've been off the pharmaceuticals, they've been
Starting point is 01:55:49 sick a couple times, and I've been around other sick people, and I've not gotten sick once. I've been on airplanes, and I've been run down, and I've been kicking my ass trying to get myself back in shape. Your resistance is top notch. And I believe that off, I mean, I don't even take an aspirin anymore. I don't take a leave. I don't take aspirin. I don't take anything with any chemicals in it whatsoever anymore. And since having that lifestyle, I've been healthier, I think, than I've ever been in my life. I mean, I'm not getting sick at all. I'm like back to being when I was a kid with all the growth hormone pumping through my veins and not getting sick. It's been actually quite eye-opening to rid yourself of pharmaceuticals and to trust cannabis. It's something
Starting point is 01:56:35 that I think everybody should do just to give it a shot because for me it's created a whole other life for me. Take a chance, Columbus did it, cocksucker. Throw away the viking and listen to Kyle Turley. Damn right. Stop fucking around. Go to honor.com.
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Starting point is 01:57:01 It all starts with the alpha brain, 100% nitropics. 100% money back guarantee they don't want the fucking product. That's belief. That's why I fuck with these people. Not only do they have that, they have to have protein, the testosterone booster. I can sit here and bullshit, you motherfuckers,
Starting point is 01:57:17 and I don't know the chemicals. Do me a favor. Go to honor.com right now. Look at all the great line of products they have. I can't help you with the bodybuilding shit and kettlebells. I get your 10% off on the supplements, all right? Go to honor.com right now and press it. Church. Boom!
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Starting point is 01:57:48 I'm just telling you, you got options. Do they have CBD products? What's that? On it? Do they have any CBD products? I think they're working on it also. I'm not fucking 100% sure. Well, they need to get on it.
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Starting point is 01:59:59 They have backlogs, backlogs. That's a beauty. And you download. And you download it and it's not even just like the text. Like sometimes when you go to websites, it's just like the text of the article. They have like the full magazine. I didn't get any with the extra video content or anything. But I got one.
Starting point is 02:00:17 You get to like scroll through the stories. Like you don't have flip through all the pages. If you don't want it, you can just like see what the stories are. And they have everything. It was great for the flight, especially for the last month because they didn't have any screens on the plane. And you downloaded all of them before you went on the plane. I did, but a lot of plans have Wi-Fi now. All right.
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Starting point is 02:01:26 They have Hedias 6 that have tobacco on them. And 24 milligram 16, 8, and 0. zero if you want to get the monkey off your bat. They've said the cigarette version and cigar version. What's the zero? What's the zero thing?
Starting point is 02:01:39 No nicotine. I heard you, I watched one of the podcast and you were talking about the zero. Yeah, just if you like the taste or like you've got, just the motion of smoking. Just something that gets your back. I've not even had a bad
Starting point is 02:01:54 experience. Our old friend, Ralphie Mae. Oh yeah. He gave me one of those when it first came on the market, man. You won't be driving two hours if you I barely made it down. I barely made it down from his house in the hills there to the hotel.
Starting point is 02:02:07 Oh, okay. I had so much. That was a rough night. So you were there when they got him off the helicopter off the ship? I wasn't there. No, no, I wasn't there for that. Yeah, this was at his house, man. Yeah, no, I can't mess with edibles too much.
Starting point is 02:02:23 Use code with Joey's church. As long as they're strain-specific. That's what... These are. These are an anarchy. I don't know what the strain is. Anak E.L.G. Direct from fucking hell.
Starting point is 02:02:34 This is the shit they gave A. Blinken before they shot him in the head. This is the shit. This is just the shit right here. Robbie had a whole carrot cake. I ate a whole carrot cake. Listen, let me tell you so. It's horrible.
Starting point is 02:02:49 These brownies from Anika edible. Yeah, the stars are great. The fucking little baby stars are great. Oh, those big stars are fresh. Oh, my God. The rice, crispy treats are great. But I'll tell you, these. little brownies and put you in fucking Jupiter
Starting point is 02:03:02 okay you want to go outside and get a fucking pogo stick but you know the great thing is that that's all you need to have probably one of your best nights sleep you've ever had and like why shouldn't anybody be able to experience that just once to say let me try
Starting point is 02:03:18 this instead of this chemical concoction that you're giving me called uh somas and flexero and uh i watched one of the videos I read it was the video article, and he said that they were giving you arthritis medication that got recalled for something terrible.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Everything. They've used professional athletes to market every drug. Why would anybody take anything? Well, hey, the football players take it. The athletes take it. That's what kills the pain. That's what they use. Because that's what we talk about using, you know, because that's what they've given us. And all you've got to do is take one bite of that. You'll have sleep like a baby. Joe, Joe doesn't take one bite. Hey, some people build up a tolerance. Why can't you build up a tolerance to some that ain't going to kill you or give you another illness or a disease?
Starting point is 02:04:07 Nobody's ever died from Brownie's cock sucker. Yeah, nobody. Nobody goes to the hospital because they ain't a brownie with refra. Well, they go. It's so funny, like, here are these people like, I thought I was going to have a stroke. It's like some old lady. Like, if you thought you were going to have a stroke, you would have died, okay?
Starting point is 02:04:24 You would have had a heart attack. It obviously doesn't do anything but just give you a bad trip if you took too much or you had the wrong strain. These people go absolutely crazy and trying to demonize this, man. It's unreal. Totally, you're a bad motherfucker. And then, Nailed the Life, Joy.
Starting point is 02:04:41 Nailed the Life. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. What the fuck are we doing here? We're talking about the edibles, man. Hold on one second. Speaking of edibles. You're throwing me off you. Nailedulife.com.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Those Gumi's or Manos always coming at you like a fucking the big black cahuna, whether it's the Gumi's or Manos or whether it's the new white chocolate line they have. But what their specialty is is the fucking vape. The vapor pen they got is top-notch. Go to the hell. What is it?
Starting point is 02:05:07 NellulatelLife.com. And press them what? Joey Diaz. Joey Diaz and get 20% off your first one. It's a $50 fucking vapor pen. You get a $40 fucking dollars, you understand me? What's the name? NailedaLive.com. Tremendous. I don't know that I've tried that one. No, no. That's what time. We don't have none here because
Starting point is 02:05:22 we gave him away to the blind kids over at the fucking church. Go over at the synagogue. Beatles song. I would love to see like Jewish kids with the vapor panels with like the little curly curls in the hummus.
Starting point is 02:05:41 Just shaking their eyes. Where are you? Where are you? I smell the 20. Oh, they're blind Jewish kids? I don't fucking know. I didn't say that. Did I fucking say that concept?
Starting point is 02:05:51 It does wonders for eyes. Why are you putting the kiss of death on me? You never know. Blind Jewish kids. I don't know blind Jewish kids around. That's the guy who had blind Jewish kids around him was Jesus. Look what got him. Jesus used to walk around like three little Arabs and no eyeballs.
Starting point is 02:06:05 And shit, look what happened. They put the fucking... Nailed. They put the fucking eyeball of death of them. Yeah, they did. And look what happened to him. Poor Jesus. Poor fucking Jesus.
Starting point is 02:06:18 I love you. My brother, tell him the name of the organization. Fuck, those brownies are good. Well, you know, Daniel got me here. The group that we're working with just, cool me.org is an effort based around another
Starting point is 02:06:37 natural element. We're combining all these things. You know, the ultimate goal is to create a center for NFL football players where we can sit around. I'm sorry, just eating another animal.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Eat brownies and, you know, get our minds right. You know, we're tired of all this, man. And just cool me. Dot org was a group started by Daniel Martinez. He's the last guy.
Starting point is 02:07:04 He's the last guy. He's a great guy. Great guy. And he created this foundation, unreal foundation. And he's kicking ass, man. It's really hard to find people to do really well
Starting point is 02:07:17 with charitable projects. And this guy's out there hustling, man. Thank God you like weed because you're big man. I know where you're at. It's cool. If I'm a record. It wasn't here.
Starting point is 02:07:30 I would never do. He would eat me. Can you imagine? Just laughing at a guy who could kill us. Hopefully, at the end of the day, with the other group, the Gridiron Cannabis Coalition, we can resolve these issues and, you know, get the right levels. That can be perfect. So you don't go over. And we can get to the science of this thing and resolve some issues.
Starting point is 02:08:02 issues. We can keep playing football. That's right. We believe in that fucking fucking fucking TAC law. Hey, why not? I'll put you in your hotel room. We'll get your little Chinese girl to cover them over and rub your feet. Honor your benefits and give your players the medicine they need. Where do you keep finding
Starting point is 02:08:20 more brownies? Yeah, he's like pulling them out of anywhere, like everywhere over here. He's got a brownie. You should see his back when it comes in. It takes like five minutes. You're going to kettlebell class tomorrow. Oh, 11 a.m. I gotta sweat this shit out. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 02:08:38 And I'll start all over again. So I say you gotta, you gotta get those kettlebells in here. Yeah, you need a whole cage and a trainer. Do you work out on your high? Yeah, you know, nowadays it's so medicinal that yes, because I have to build up my tolerances to a level where, because if you work out and you work and you train hard, then you sweat a lot,
Starting point is 02:09:00 then you're bleeding out THC. You're bleeding out, you know, CBD, everything else that's in the cannabis plant. So it's coming out of your system, you know. It doesn't stay in like other drugs do. You can rid yourself of marijuana by going to the sauna in a day. You know, it's going to maybe stick around in your hair, but it's going to get out of your system. I mean, that guy's passing drug tests left right in college by just drinking a gallon of water the night after they smoke and go hitting the sauna and get a good workout in, you know, and just sweat their balls off.
Starting point is 02:09:32 So, you know, I work out. Now with certain strains, I get myself right before I go to the gym and train because I know I'm going to be getting it out of my system and I have to go through that whole process again to get it back to where it's good. You know, there's optimal levels to this as a medication. and if you train hard and you work out, it's going to, you know, you then get sobered up real quick and you're not high anymore. You don't, or you're not necessarily high.
Starting point is 02:10:05 You just certain things start to creep back in. When you got ailments, you got, you got, you got, you got depression and anxiety and all these other things that start to weigh in on a sober mind. You got to medicate, man. You got to medicate. So now it's a constant deal. You're starting to voices. You're like, well, I fucking go wrong.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? Jesus Christ, he won't shut up about technicalities. I just want to get high. Oh, my God, I'm just howling. See, I can't do that no more. It sucks. I pass that level. Because I'm very strange-specific.
Starting point is 02:10:45 This brain injury has caused everything to become ultra-sensitive. So anything, caffeine or chocolate or other things. that just, you know, spark things in the brain, omega-3s that thin the blood, stuff like that. It preys on the brain injury in a big way. And so, you know. I'm very strain-specific. What strain are you looking at?
Starting point is 02:11:17 In the sativas, I've found Jack Herrera and Dutch Treat are highly medicinal. And then my indica strain is San Fernando Valley. It's in the family, the OG Kush and department, you know. Well, you know what? And that's a badass indica stream. It's your lucky fucking night. Because this star of death is right from the Indica Valley that you walk. You got the San Fernando Valley?
Starting point is 02:11:44 Listen, this fucking star of death was invented in the San Fernando Valley. You eat a piece of that. It's got to be that strain, though. Listen, though. You eat a piece of this star. I'll take a piece home with me because I can't drive with it You go home, you eat it tonight before you go Not be no new time
Starting point is 02:12:00 You wake up in the morning You're gonna be jumping up and down like fucking I don't even know like A blind Jew Like a blind Jewish kid Like a blind Jewish kid singing the Beatles This is the shit This is the shit right here
Starting point is 02:12:16 This is what they have to pass out in all the locker rooms Anarchy edibles Stars of Death No like if you were a charger player And you had a medical card Could you smoke weed or no, no. Or Broncos or Seahawks. Nobody, nobody. That's the other side of this whole fucking thing that people don't understand that you can't.
Starting point is 02:12:34 And the shittiest part is... We don't give a fuck what it does. Inflammatory after a game, you smoke a few numbers, takes your mind off the pain, whatever. They don't give a fuck. Well, as long as you pass that test at the beginning of the year and you're not, you're not going to... You don't get arrested for it or get in trouble with it, then you can use it. but, you know, you're not supposed to. I'm not supposed to.
Starting point is 02:12:57 You got to use it on the download. They'll give you this big old jar, shch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-all fucking pills and say, here, go home with that, you know, instead of, you know, here, take this vape-pin and just go chill out for a while, you know. It's ridiculous. All right, what we're going to see you again, don't?
Starting point is 02:13:14 I hope so, man. I appreciate the end-in-bye. Where are you at? Where are you at? Riverside. No, no, no. I'm talking. Where can they find you. Gridironcannibus.com.
Starting point is 02:13:21 All right. Check it out. You got a headache, you get to this website, he'll send you a fucking join in some shit. Forget about it. They gave the Vietnam kids. We're working on it. We're going to Israel.
Starting point is 02:13:33 We're going to go talk to that guy over there. Take it with you. Yeah. Lee is Israeli. That's why the flag is there for the cover a hole in the wall. Yeah. Leave rights deep. Just don't tell them you eat hummus.
Starting point is 02:13:44 If you eat hummus over there, just keep it on the downline. No, he'll do a hummus test on you. Israel's progressing science on marijuana, like, to unbelievable levels. See, I'm prepping you to be a fucking Zah or weed. In Israel, you don't even know. See what I'm telling you?
Starting point is 02:14:01 I thought about moving to Israel. You could talk to fucking the guys that are addict going to be Antiqui animals. The special star of death Jesus style. Like a picture of Jesus hanging inside the middle of the star.
Starting point is 02:14:17 Just hanging. And you go to Israel and pass those fucking things out. Who's better than you? What do you think? becomes president of Israel. You pass out stars in the middle of a Jesus hanging. Who? Who? Nobody. That's who.
Starting point is 02:14:30 I love you. Just a picture of bloody Jesus in the star? Fuck it. I love you motherfuckers. Next issue. Go to the next issue.com. Mold it. Slash Joey. Go to onit.com. Cled to life. And my main people over there,
Starting point is 02:14:45 hit these things.com. I want to thank Kyle Turley for coming up. And my little brother, Lee, Salliatas. We'll see you Wednesday afternoon or Thursday afternoon. Peace. Hit it leave. I'm hearing it.
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