The Church of What's Happening Now: The New Testament - #311 - Kyle Turley
Episode Date: August 25, 2015Kyle Turley, Former NFL Offensive Lineman, Owner of GridIron Cannabis Coalition, joins Joey Diaz and Lee Syatt live in studio. This podcast is brought to you by: NextIssue.com/Joey for a free trial ...of the Magazine app Next Issue Onnit.com. Use Promo code CHURCH for a 10% discount at checkout. HITecigs.com For a better tasting, longer lasting e cig go to HITecigs.com. Use Promo code joeyschurch for five Hit E Cig's for $50 Naileditlife.com - Get 20% off a vapor pen by using code word joeydiaz. They are also produce some of the best edibles on the market, Los Gummies Hermanos Recorded live on 08/24/15 Music: Down in The Park - Foo Fighters Wanna Be Around - Tony Bennet Down In The Park - Alice In Chains
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You bad motherfuckers.
Monday, August 24th, the day the devil was raped in the ocean and hitting the head with a fucking hammer.
You're here
The church
What's happened now
Carl Turley
Lee Syatt
Uncle Joey
Are you kidding me
Or what?
Anarchy Edibles in the house
In full effect
Sometimes we eat little stars of death
Tonight we ate the fucking big meteor
Put that on loud
Lizaa
Kick that motherfucker
Take that meal leave
I've been in Boston
I had a great time
And you come back with the flu
Not the flu
I have a little bit of a cold
Fucking plain
I did see in the Hindu dust
And God
And God knows what the calamitates back there
What were you in
26
Jesus Christ almighty
How you end up back there
Because what do you get when you fly on American
I don't know fucking people
I don't know nobody
You know people
You give me some miles
I don't know
But yeah God
Yesterday it was bad
Because the flight coming in
From Chicago was delayed a little bit
And then the plane was like from 1987.
It was like super old.
But I had a great time.
Cross country flight.
Oh, God, yeah.
Super old flight.
Yeah, and it didn't have like none of the, none of the monitors.
It still had the flip down screens.
Whatever.
I haven't been back to Boston since a year ago last May.
So it was just great.
I hadn't seen my mom for almost nine months.
It was just a good time to go home.
You went to the museum.
Yeah, we saw the Pixar exhibit, which was fun.
We went to Fenway.
and I almost started sobbing.
I had to hold it together because my mom was there.
Because I had my mom on my podcast,
and she told the story when they thought I had cancer as a little kid,
and luckily I didn't.
And then the kid who threw out the first pitch at Fenway
was like the six-year-old who was born premature, just like me,
and had beaten cancer, and he's walking out in the entire...
The thing I love about Boston and the thing that bothers me about Dodgers,
and I know when they have big games, they go out,
but for small games when they're not doing that,
well, I've been there and hasn't been that great of an experience,
experience at Dodgers Stadium.
Fenway, we're 10 games under 500.
The place is packed, and
40,000 people are cheering for the 6-year-old,
and I'm just, I'm just bawling.
He threw a strike from the, from the pitchers mound.
It was just, I miss Boston sometimes.
So he had a good time with the family.
Hell yeah.
Went to legal, got some chowder.
What else did you eat at legal?
Fried shrimp.
Chowder, isn't it?
What else?
Chowder, yeah.
That's it.
I got a Caesar salad, too.
Caesar salad.
Look at you.
Living like a dog.
With shrimp or chicken?
Not on the salad.
Just the regular season salad?
Yeah, I don't mess with stuff on the salad.
It's weird.
Beautiful.
What about you?
Do you have a good weekend?
I had a nice weekend with the family.
When swimming, did the whole fucking kid thing.
What are you going to do?
Carl Turley, what's happening?
How are you doing, man?
It's good to be here.
What's going on, man?
Everything all right.
Yeah, man, everything's great.
Before the podcast, we were talking about billionaires.
School started.
School started.
Yeah.
First day to day.
It's fucking back.
Oh, yeah, yeah, man.
Traffic is back.
People are stuck.
They don't know how to make the left.
But it's funny.
We're talking about billionaires before the show started.
What do you do?
When you have 11, what would they work between them?
Combined.
Because the owner, the owner himself owns, like, every sports team in Colorado.
He owns the Rams.
And then he owns one of those European soccer teams or football teams.
So he has, like, almost seven.
And his wife is the heiress to the Walmart fortune.
So right now on Wikipedia says almost five.
So it's like close to 11 or 12 combined.
What do you do when you got $5 billion?
I would go to the bank.
Whatever the fuck you want.
Let's say the bank opens at 9.
I'm there at 901.
You never go to the bank.
I go to the drive-through window.
The bank comes to you.
And the bank goes, beep, and I go, fuck you.
And I drive away.
That's what I do 9-0-1 every day.
Just go to the bank and say, fuck you.
Yeah.
I own this motherfucker.
Yeah, pretty much.
That's pretty much.
$4.8 billion.
They own banks.
I never dreamed of having money like that.
I wouldn't know how to act.
I wouldn't know how to fucking behave myself.
Now I do, but not 20 years ago when you're a college student,
somebody hands you $14 million signing bonus or whatever the fuck they do.
That shows how much.
Everyone always says sports athletes are overpaid.
But if the owners have that much money,
it shows you how much they're really not making that much comparatively when you think about it.
At the end of the day.
Yeah, at the end of the day, like, you said it a bunch where, like, the UFC's like, oh, we're doing a great day once a weekend, but your college football brings in a sellouts.
Every weekend.
40 times a weekend.
40 times a Saturday.
Alabama has a $25 million surplus.
They just bought Nick Sabin's house for him, just because, like, last year.
You have a college that has a $25 million surplus.
That's just one school.
and they talk about cutting kids' tuition
and we can't staff teachers
and
the NCAA is a racket.
I mean, you've got 32 NFL football teams, right?
And they're worth a billion dollars apiece, roughly.
How many NCAA colleges are?
All the coverage is, the whole SEC is,
each team is worth almost a billion
because they control the whole state.
What was it like for you as a college player?
Like with like there was that
Shitty.
I was in San Diego State.
Yeah.
Well, they had that basketball player who was like on the national championship team
and said he couldn't afford food and all that stuff.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Yeah, you got to work, man.
I mean, I was a kid.
I was one of five kids.
My dad was a truck driver.
There was no money.
There was no action.
I wasn't going to college if it wasn't from football.
You know, so going to school was, was challenging as a student athlete
because of the demand.
you know the other students they see their you get to you get a free school this out of the other but
you're you're full time for them you're pretty much a slave for them i mean you are you're up and
if if you're not a class on time you're running if you aren't eating you're running if you're not
making weight if you're not doing this doing that making practices you know your life is controlled
so you are 100% owned by them your off season is the only time that you can have a
job as a college athlete.
You can't have a job so you can't have any money.
So you're, I mean, you know, try to be an offensive lineman putting on weight and all
that stuff, you know, it takes money.
You got to buy extra food.
That meal ticket doesn't cover, you know, four steaks a day, you know.
20 chicken breasts, you know, that doesn't get covered on your meal card.
So it puts guys in a bind in a big way.
That's why you got James Winston, stealing.
crab legs. He's won the Heisman
trophy. He's made a billion
dollars for the school or whatever.
I don't know how many millions,
but may as well be.
They were flying him on a private jet, I think,
between football and baseball, because he wanted to do both.
Right. You know, he's flying on private jets.
He sees his coach. I mean, we had a coach
of San Diego State that just left
and went to
Michigan a few years ago.
Brady Hoke.
And, you know, had two good years.
Brought the San Diego State Aztex
up to another
height of recognition where we were at.
You know, we came off of Marshall Falk years.
Then we had our years.
We broke Marshall Falk's records, big time receiving core,
number one offense in the country.
All the guys on our offensive line played the NFL, et cetera.
And then we kind of got lost.
And then this coach comes back.
He brings the program back up.
He's here for like two years.
And then he gets, you know, Michigan comes in on a private jet,
picks him up, gives him a big multi-million dollar deal.
San Diego State Camp,
it, you know, because they don't put any money into football. They only put it into basketball.
And they take him away and he goes, you know, and the players see that. They see, how can't I just
go get a pair of shorts from somebody, you know, or trade my shorts for a tattoo? And you get to
be here and make millions of dollars. And then you're not contractually. I can't just
get up and go to another school if I don't like it here. I have to sit out for a whole.
whole year, you know, miss a whole year of ball. But these coaches, they float around, this whole
lifestops floating around. So what do these kids have to look at? And, you know, these are the
examples, you know, it's like Chris Carter and talk, get a fall guy. It's like they perpetuate
that whole thing. And, you know, the owners and, oh, now Chris Carter's surprised. Oh, I, I didn't
see it to realize till just now when I watched it. It's been up on the NFL's fucking website.
He's watched it before, you know.
This is a perpetuated mentality, man.
And these kids are, you know, getting trouble for it, man.
It's weird what when you're growing up and you're watching college football,
for me it was college basketball and college football and pro, everything.
And you watch this.
And as a kid, you're like, fuck, I could do this.
I can just go to school, take a few classes, you know, lift some weights and go to college.
shit and then you realize there's so much more involved like there's so much more that you have to
you just don't show up there's paperwork and this and that and pee test and you know you have to do
this and get that sit with this guy once a week and you don't get to go to college you know
kids get to go to college and you know they get upset because they have to work this and the other
but they can go to parties they can have fun is it you have to commit if you don't if you want to
keep that scholarship and you want to, you know, get to where you're trying to go, which is the
National Football League, you've got to fully commit. You got to give up spring breaks. You've got to
give up everything. I mean, you've got to train constantly. That's your job. You have a job,
and it is full-time. If you are dedicated to it, you're one of the best, and you want to honor that
scholarship, that's a full-time gig. And being a student-athlete was rough. I mean, and then, you know,
and then there's the really stupid things like we just talked about. I mean, I had to pay back my last
semester of my scholarship because I signed up for all my classes credit no credit instead of
getting a grades and I had switched my major mid-career so I was able to pick a bunch of courses
that I hadn't taken yet that were all kind of general education types of classes and I could
take them credit no credit so you know I'd go on test days and like every other student does you
know and I just show up and I'd you know fail I'm sure because I'm
These are classes of science and English and all these, you know, where you're reading books and you've got to really study.
And I'm just like, I got to focus.
I committed to stay in that the school.
I could have came out my junior year.
I committed to, you know, stay and try to become a better player and get drafted higher and represent the school.
I did, got drafted, seventh pick overall.
Seventh pick in the first round?
Yeah, seven pick.
San Diego State, offensive linemen.
I beat all the SECs, all the big ten.
It was crazy, man.
And they made me pay back my scholarship because I only went on test days,
and the days I thought, you know, got everybody else away with it, you know,
and I'd just take them no credit.
So then it wouldn't count against my, they try to screw me over.
I got a letter in the mail.
You owe us $20,000, you know?
Like, okay.
All right then.
So the day you get drafted, the fucking blue ink ain't even dry on the job.
Yeah.
The school.
The school, the first one,
one of the first bills I got,
once I got drafted and made it to the National Football League
was from San Diego State University for $20,000.
It was the second Columbia out.
That's the second bill that comes in this strike take.
Remember when you're...
All the parking tickets is what it was.
All those fucking parking tickets.
The city of San Diego, we need all that parking money.
Jesus Christ.
Seventh overall.
That is just a...
Yeah.
Were you in the, like Madison Square Garden or wherever they held it?
No, it wasn't as big of a deal as it is now.
You know, it's really commercialized now.
What year was this?
98.
98.
So it was still tagliaboo, and it was just starting to get a little silly, you know, with the media.
But it wasn't as big a deal.
So I just stayed out, Marino Valley out where I grew up in the valley out there in the desert, man.
I had a party in my mom's house and the cul-de-sac invited everybody over.
That's a great, knock-up way to do it.
Nice and simple.
Yeah, man.
So now you go to, you got drafted by who?
New Orleans.
Yep, Mike Ditka.
And then you went there via, you got traded immediately.
No, no.
I got drafted by Coach Dicka to New Orleans, was there for five years,
and then they traded me to St. Louis.
Yeah, unfortunately.
Mickey Loomis traded me.
And, you know, that was how it was.
What did you think of the Saints when you were done?
That's my team, man.
I got flirt with ease all over me.
That's a special place.
It still holds a special place in my heart.
I haven't set foot in the Superdome since I left.
I've had plenty of opportunities and made a lot of excuses to get around it.
And I have a lot of invitations just because it means a lot, man.
That was a pretty, pretty special place to be in New Orleans.
You've been there.
And anybody who's gone there and experienced that city, you know, can attest to that.
It's just a different, different place.
Were you there during Katrina?
I went after Katrina.
I was not on the team.
I was in St. Louis.
I had just gotten traded.
I was down, I was after 2003 season.
And then I was down to Mexico at the time.
I had a house down there.
And we saw the storm coming on the radar on the TV and it tore up the city.
And so we flew back early and loaded up a truck of supplies and stuff.
I raised a bunch of money and cleared out of Sam's Club and hauled it down in the 18-wheeler.
My dad was a truck driver.
And drove it from St. Louis all the way down to New Orleans for the cops and the firemen because all those guys are my buddies.
And I knew they were – I couldn't get a hold of any of them.
The phones were all down.
Everything was down.
And so we drove that truck down, got in, and they waved us right on through.
And we spent about a week down there helping clean up and all that.
The team was in San Antonio at the time.
They moved away.
Oh, oh.
All right.
Okay.
Sorry about that.
Katrina was fucking crazy, wasn't it?
Like it was cr-
It was nuts.
My friends were down there either shooting a movie
or had just finished and they did all this stuff.
And they went back after the hurricane and they shot where they were shooting.
Like the dock where they had shot.
Gone.
Like nothing was left.
Yeah.
And now it's 10 years.
I think ABC's doing some special this weekend about the 10-year anniversary of Katrina and whatnot.
You know what?
I can put a...
You're a mumbling, bumbling little fucking cock suck.
It's my fault.
I didn't have the microphone where it need to be.
No, he's always kicking over something.
No, just hitting the button and the music sign.
He ain't even fucking high yet.
He's straight yet.
He's doing shit.
He's just trips.
There's a lot of wires, man.
A lot of wires.
A lot of fucking...
Mission control over here.
Yeah.
You're a fucking tremendous athlete.
Oh, no, I'm not.
I'm terrible.
Yes, you are.
You got the light feet.
You can move like a break dancing.
I've seen you fucking do your thing.
You just never, nobody ever forced you no more.
What does it like to be traded, man?
That's kind of crazy when you think about it.
It was weird.
You know, were you on the trading block?
Did you know you were going to get traded?
Here's this team you love.
Yes and well with them.
I had another year on my contract, but
they had just fired.
They were in talks of my agent about renewing my contract,
extending it, making me a saint for life.
But it was Randy Mueller, who was the general manager.
And Randy Mueller, all of a sudden, after my agent's telling me the deal's done,
you know, we're going to lock this up before the season starts.
And you'll be a saint for life.
Cool.
You know, I'm not asking for anything.
more than what I deserve should be a no-brainer.
You know, I've proved myself to the team.
And then out of nowhere, he gets fired.
Like one day, he calls me up and he says, Kyle, you know, Tom Benson, he's senile or
something.
He's like, I don't understand it.
And he just fired me, you know, and I'm like, what?
You know, this is a general manager.
And he'd only been there for like a year or two years.
And we'd won.
Like, we were winning.
It was a great team and fired.
And he called me.
And then all of a sudden, the guy that was in the back room, Mickey Loomis,
who is now this big famous guy, was just crunching numbers.
He was the numbers guy for them for Randy Mueller's crew when they were in Seattle
and running a show up there.
And he came to New Orleans and was just crunching numbers.
He was a guy that you sat down with when they redid the contract or whatever
and worked out all your numbers.
And then he became the general manager.
So, you know, the owner at the time, you know, pre-super Bowl, pre all the new money that he's got, I guess, was, you know, stretched pretty thin.
So he was not wanting to spend the money to.
And that general manager, Mickey Limous, was, you know, set on, I guess, making a statement with me, I guess, contractually as to what kind of general manager he was going to be, you know,
So a lot of things just started slinging around, and he was, you know, talking a bunch of shit about me.
I'm back to my agent.
And my agent was like, hey, team, I can believe what he said.
You know, you shouldn't be telling me this because now I'm just pissed, you know.
And I remember after a game one time, and he came in the locker room and we had just beaten somebody.
And it was a big win.
And he came in and he said, he's shaking everybody's hands coming around.
And, you know, and he'd just been hearing all this stuff he's talking to my agent about now.
because now the contract, you know, that was done.
It's not done no more.
And so, you know, now I'm sitting here kind of got to wait and see
and feel out this new guy, what he's intended for me.
And he's coming around the locker room and great game, great.
And I turn around him, don't get the fuck out of my face, man.
You're, don't go act like you're my friend, you know.
I thought we were cool.
Yeah, I guess we're not.
You said some shit that I don't appreciate.
you know so keep on fucking down the line telling all these guys you know
congratulations because i don't want to hear it from you and then that just kind of snowballed
into a you know a lot of different things they're talking about giving and they're the owner
now is in some big tiff with his granddaughter who at the time he was talking about you know grooming
her up rita to be this uh uh new owner she's going to take over you know and it was
It's just like, I knew five dudes on the team that she'd been with, you know,
I mean, making out with married dudes and on retreats and shit, you know, guys from the team and stuff.
Like, this bitch was fucked.
And I was just like, and then they started trading everybody away, trade Willie Rofaway, traded Chris Naoli away, started trading everybody away, started trading everybody away, you know.
Like, what are you guys doing, you know?
And I was like, and now you're going to start talking shit about me.
I'd been, I might have given it, you know, yeah, you know, sorry if you would have treated me well,
but I'm sorry, you didn't.
And it was a situation where I just kind of felt like, hey, you guys don't want me there,
then fucking trade me, okay?
I'm tired of dealing with this bullshit.
I don't need this.
I don't need you coming back and forth about me and talking this about me.
I've given everything I've had to this organization and then some.
And it's on film, you know, whatever the fuck you think you've done for this.
team, you can go fuck yourself. And
agent called me when I was over in some union meetings
in Hawaii and said to hey KT, they want to trade you to the Rams.
I said, fine, fuck them.
How were the Rams? How long were you there for?
It would have been a good situation had I not gotten injured, man.
blew my back out. And that was
at the same time. I could have made it back with them
had they given me a proper job.
chance. It was a serious injury, surgery was involved, the whole deal. And, you know, it was an
injury really took me down, you know. So I was, had one great year, made all pro, you know,
my first year there and represented what I could do for the team. Unfortunately, suffered
injury. They contributed to heavily in neglect. I was complaining the things that were telltale
signs of that something's going on with my back, you know, all the sciatica nerves and all that stuff,
you know, and they were just, hey, they'll just shoot you up, you know, shoot you up with all these
drugs with tort all and cortisone, you know, numb it. And it's something in your hip. It's no big deal,
you know, we'll see it after the season's over with. After the season comes open, oh, wow, you've got
a herniated disc the size of a fucking golf ball. Oh, that's why you can't get out of bed now.
And that's why it's starting to seize up now after the season's over with,
because your body, you know, you're not moving around like you were.
You're not working out like you were.
Now, all of a sudden, you take a, you know, you're relaxing and laying down,
you take a load off for a few weeks, and all of a sudden you get out of bed wrong one day
and, boom, there it goes, all the way, you know.
And, you know, it could have been resolved probably with some rest
and take a couple games off, you know, or treatment.
And it wouldn't have been as severe as it was.
You know, probably never would even have had to face.
surgery. But, you know, that's the way they ran the show. And then I got involved with
Mike Martz and that whole deal. It was, you know, another ego guy that thought he had the
right to say what was going on with a player that had a serious injury, you know, and didn't
want to understand that, you know, this guy that hasn't missed the down of football in six years,
since he started in his league
or a practice for that matter
is complaining about something
and not really kind of complaining
just kind of saying,
hey, I don't know, I don't feel right,
you know, should I be out here right now?
You know, they rushed me,
they screwed that up during the season,
and then they put me back in four months off of back surgery.
And I didn't know, you know,
they're in charge of the whole deal.
You know, you're in their doctor's care.
I never had a back injured before.
I didn't understand what, you know,
that involved,
rehabilitation, et cetera.
And then I go back to training camp and blow my back out again because I went to them and said,
hey, man, I don't feel right.
Like the first couple days of training camp, I said, I thought I was in better shape right now,
but my leg is way behind.
I don't feel good.
I don't think this is, I think I need to really kind of reevaluate my situation here
and maybe rehab a bit stronger right now because I'm feeling really weak in certain areas.
No, no, you're fine.
you had the surgery, it's okay, boom, came back into practice, okay, I'll keep going, you know,
keep telling me I'm fine. You know, you trust so long and it just keeps continuing to bite
you in the ass and then you kind of get fed up, you know, and at that point, then I started,
you know, continuing my, my admissions to the media and, you know, delving some information
about how things were going and people don't like that, you know. They don't want, they don't
want critical thinkers. They don't want people to
step out of line.
And, you know,
when it becomes that kind of a
relationship, you know, you're just a
disposable number after an injury
like that, you know. So they were able to
no guarantee contracts in the NFL.
See you later. You know,
cut you. Now you're back in the market
where you just signed a multi-million dollar
contract. Now you're looking at, you know,
league minimum with a split.
You know.
Crazy.
It moves fucking fast, brother.
Yeah.
And, you know, the bottom line is you have to stay healthy.
Because they got three guys in line to fill your fucking thing.
So now you have a child, you have a big house, you bought that fucking boat on the leg.
It's more than staying healthy, though.
It's a lot of politics.
Oh, absin fucking louis.
It's more than state, because that's what it was for me, you know.
If it was just about staying healthy.
And it's politics you don't need, and you never knew of that.
Yeah.
It exists with stand-up comedy.
It exists with acting.
You know, this guy.
has this movie role, you're perfect for it.
Well, we think that Paul Rugg would
be better. What the fuck are you talking
about? But it's just, there's
so many variables
to make a decision sometimes.
You don't know at the time
and you don't understand.
I think that happens in like regular offices
too, like oh, well, you come in this weekend.
Oh, totally. Well, you work for free.
It's just, it's amazing how
like, it's your entire, how
long have you been playing football?
I didn't, I didn't start playing
until I was a senior in high school.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, yeah.
One of those stories.
But even then, you put four years of college and then, what, six years in the NFL?
Five red-shirted.
So, yeah, high school, then five of college, and then nine technically in the NFL.
Now, when you get red-shirted, you still play.
You still practice.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, you're just a practice, dumb.
Practice, dude.
Yeah.
You go out there and you rocked to a bucket.
That's your game.
Yeah, right.
So you just rock the house.
Yeah.
I mean, and if you go to a good college, then, you know, you're coming out of high school and you're running scout team for the big boys.
You know, you're going against the first team.
You know, you're coming straight out of high school.
That's, I remember this dude from L.A. Carson Leah Meaty, man.
This dude, massive.
And he'd come around the corner on a trap play, man, and just launched me like five yards.
You know, this dude was 350, big old Samoa and Polynesian cat, man.
Massive.
and just came around the corner of blazing fast this guy was for as big as he was unbelievable
and uh you know he was in he ended up a lot of aztecs going the movies after college but
he ended up in um armageddon he got crushed uh in the streets in new york big old simoan dude
i think cooking out in the beginning in the beginning yeah with any griffin and yeah yeah and
uh carson that was him yeah it just you know you uh grow up with a certain
set of values,
especially
Midwest or whatever.
Your dad's a truck driver.
You make it to a team.
You play your heart out.
And they
push you out
as soon as something slips up.
Something.
And that's, hey, listen, man,
now with 30-30
and all that shit.
I did, you know,
one of the best things
about the longest year I was,
I spent a weekend in a jacuzzi
with Bossport and a bunch of other guys.
Yeah.
You got the stories.
And Bosworth told me that story.
And I went upstairs and it fucked with me for a couple of days because you don't see that.
These are the things the people at home don't fucking have a clue about.
They don't know what the fuck is going on, you know.
And they're the same people that are called those sports talk radios.
He's a bum.
You don't know what the fuck's going on in your personal life.
That's all they show, you know, they show the glitz and the glamour.
Look at that ballers show, you know.
It's on TV right now.
That's all they want to show, you know.
They don't want to make a movie about Junior Seow.
You know?
They don't want to do that.
Now, you, when your friend contacted me, the Cuban guy, and then I'm like, why is he contacted me?
I know Kyle, Kyle said, they hit me up to wreck.
One of the things I looked at, that's big right now.
Well, that's Daniel.
Yeah, that's from the just cool me.org.
Okay, right, right.
That's, you know, one of the other things I'm working on, opposed to what you're about to talk about there.
But, yeah, Daniel got in touch with you, and we're doing,
and it's all intertwined.
Yeah, I got a lot of good things and some charities I'm working with,
and that revolves a lot around what that is.
You know, with all this AMAs, have you thought about getting to MMA?
And smacking some motherfuckers, get some good size to you?
No.
I had a brief thought, you know, as a wrestler, that was my sport,
so I know I'd do really well.
But I should have went to,
Iowa State, actually, because I could have wrestled and played football.
Coached by Bobby Douglas, I think he was Bobby Douglas.
You're huge.
What weight do you wrestle out of high school?
My senior year, I had to wrestle heavy weights because they didn't have a 220 weight-pound class.
But I was about, you know, 220 my senior year, so that I was heavyweight.
But then I went in the – I wrestled since I was like seventh grade, you know, through high school.
and in the summers, freestyle programs, et cetera.
And then I qualified for the state games.
I was, like, really torn because I wanted to, you know,
if there was money in wrestling, I would have just committed to wrestling.
But football gave me the scholarship.
I had to go to training camp instead of going to state games and giving it a shot.
Because I started finally putting on a weight.
I didn't play until my senior year of high school.
So then I started lifting weights and getting big, strong, you know.
And I became a really good wrestler and had some great coaches.
So all the cars were set there.
But the MMA thing, it was, it's more of, you know, what's going on with the brain, you know, that keeps me from doing that in two ways.
And that I know personally, if I'm in there.
And I know a lot of guys, you know, say it.
But I wouldn't stop.
would do things, I couldn't control myself, you know, like it's a fight.
And just because of the brain issue, you know, it's taken me to a different place when
that kicks in.
It's a whole other world, and, you know, it's kind of a scary place.
So not really something I like to tap into too much because bad things tend to happen
to other people.
Hold that thought one second.
What's Tony better at that?
Is he ready to arrive?
Yes, he is.
This is why I love you, Lee.
You're always thinking.
There's something just to...
There you go.
Fuck it.
Yeah, man.
You're an interesting fucking dude.
I want to get to this.
I want to be a...
Pick up the pieces.
When somebody breaks your heart.
Oh, shit, Lee.
Tomorrow bell bell bell class.
Don't stand next to me.
I'm talking.
Some somebody twice as smart.
Hell yeah, I'll meet there.
It's weird, you know...
You watch these football players.
I don't know what year.
I'm not good with years.
With the leather helmets on,
they're blasting themselves.
And then, you know,
when I was growing up,
I saw people fucking bombard each other.
You know, I grew up during the Pittsburgh Steel era.
It was awesome.
With Jack Hamm and Lambert and Ming Joe Green
and, you know,
Lester and Molester out there fucking slamming people
and Ronnie a lot.
Yeah, you know.
You're at home watching TV,
you're like, this is fucking great.
And then years later,
you don't even know what the fuck you're thinking about.
You're up at 2 in the morning.
You're smoking a joint.
And there's a documentary on Earl Campbell,
who's in a fucking wheelchair, you know.
And I remember sitting there on Monday night crying in my living room.
Him running in without a fucking shoe on.
Yeah.
I mean, they took his fucking shoe at one time.
He scored a touchdown.
Really?
Yeah, it was amazing.
It was just Monday nights.
Yep, ran out of a shoe.
And seeing 40,000 people with little blue flags going like this and they were singing and it's crazy.
And now you're seeing this man in this fucking wheelchair.
And then, you know, you just hear all these little things over the years.
I grew up a football fan guys.
I bet I took fucking San Francisco plus the one against the Dallas Cowboys in 81.
I love all that shit.
I just don't now because, you know, you grow up and you get involved in other things.
and you don't have time to catch up with the teams like you did when you were in high school and college.
I was still a big football fan.
Oh, no, I understand.
But it's hard to, like, support them, especially when they're so, they take such strong stances against, like, steroids.
And they take strong stances against what's going on with Brady.
But then, like, they'll sell these highlight videos of the greatest hits, like the best hits of the season or whatever.
And then, like you said, you see players.
It's all good, though.
It's all good.
The thing is, is that every player would gladly, still to this day,
he would be sitting in wheelchairs proud.
I have to walk a cane every now and then.
My body locks up.
That tautic nerve just fires up sometimes and, you know, shuts me down.
I got to use a cane.
I'm on a cane.
You know, I'm barely turning 40 this year.
And I'm on a cane a lot.
Just because I'd still like to stay in shape.
and the injuries are, you know, what they are, and it just puts me down like that sometimes.
But I walk proud with that.
You know, that's my badge of honor.
I've had a cane before it broke on me, but I had it all stickered up with, you know, my helmet stickers.
You know, this is why I got this cane.
And I tell these kids, I'm like, don't feel bad for anybody that got hurt playing football.
What you should feel bad for is that these motherfuckers don't care to take care of.
dudes, you know, we have a problem in this country with understanding that there's a responsibility.
They parade around this whole family talk all the time in sports.
But then when serious things happen to people in this supposed family, they just shut them out.
I mean, it goes, you know, down to the kids.
It's the worst.
I mean, Pop Warner right now, you got a handful of kids every year that die.
and are put in spinal situations.
Why is this?
And they don't take care of it.
Why are this?
I just visited this kid in Marino Valley.
And he's got a lawsuit against the Pop Warner League right now
because they just turned their back and walked away.
He made a tackle in a game.
He was a star player.
And he ended up getting paralyzed.
And he sits in a wheelchair now.
And there was no insurance policy for catastrophic
injury, you know, that now has caused his family to have to move from Long Beach to
Marino Valley and live in an apartment, you know, in Marino Valley. That's, you know,
and guys like myself and other people that hear about these stories are the ones who they're,
you know, going to try and go and help this kid, you know, why aren't these Pop Warner
leagues trying to help them? Why isn't the National Football League who has a monopoly on football
and relationships with these colleges and, you know, little leagues and et cetera?
to promote their game, create programs like they do for everything else to help take care of these people.
Because at the end of the day, we know the risk.
We understand there's risk.
I saw Dennis Bird go down when he was playing for the Jets, and he came around that corner and, pow, and he's down, and he's paralyzed.
You don't think that's as scary as the brain injury or death, you know?
We've known this for a long time.
But what we haven't done is taking care of these guys when they've gotten hurt.
And the unions and the league, they don't honor injuries situations and disability benefits.
I mean, that's what's created all these problems.
You'd have all these old guys on Keyneson and in wheelchairs at all the games with their jerseys on.
You know, proud.
So as a retired player, what do you get?
What do you get now as a retired player for any benefits?
Anything?
Luckily, I got a good lawyer
because that's what it takes.
You don't just leave the game
with the benefits that you deserve, you know.
When you can't play anymore as a football player,
it's because you can't play anymore.
It's not because you're not good anymore,
in majority of cases.
This is because you can't play anymore
because you've received that injury
that has, you know, took you a step back
or, you know, for most guys, you know,
really crippled you.
You don't walk.
away from this game. You gimp away.
Let me ask you something because this is what's got
me baffled or maybe I'm missing
something. Where I grew up,
Kyle,
huge football.
Northern New Jersey,
huge football.
I was always a basketball
kid early on and I
knew I would play football eventually
but for the most part I got left
back and I sucked so bad that I
focused on basketball and we turned the team
around from 0 and 7
to four and three.
But I had friends that played football.
Today I talked to Mike Ascleese.
He's the high school coach's son.
He left me a message.
He emailed me a couple days ago,
and we were going back and forth on the topic.
When I was growing up,
I didn't hear as much, I don't know how to say this, Lee.
I didn't hear as much about concussions
and serious head injuries in football, as I'm hearing now.
Is it the helmets?
Are we getting stronger?
Are the kids...
Yeah, those statistics haven't changed.
I mean, they've been pretty consistent over the years and the decades
of how many kids die every year and the spinal, et cetera.
And it's not a question of gear,
because you can't make a good enough helmet to stop it, you know,
until the government releases their technology, you know,
that they're using to fly around in their space.
We're not going to resolve the concussion issue, you know, until we can float the brain without causing damage to it because of momentum and laws of motion.
There's nothing that can be done except treatment and protocol.
And for too long and why you didn't hear about it is because it was no big deal.
You just got your bell wrong and, you know, oh, whatever.
And then all these social problems that stemmed from it, you know, that we just kind of pawn off.
as getting old or, you know, or that was just the game, you know, whatever, it's just natural
progression.
It wasn't.
It's because of an injury, and we haven't addressed the injury, and that's, you know, what's lacked.
You know, they didn't want to acknowledge it.
They didn't want to, and they went out of their way furthermore.
That's why they cost them a billion-dollar-plus lawsuit, you know, at the end of the day.
So the NFL did get sued for this.
Oh, yeah.
They settled.
It's an open-ended lawsuit right now.
It's hanging up because of a couple appeals.
But this is a multi-billion dollar lawsuit.
They just, you know, Oates said, okay, fine, we'll pay it.
Because there's evidence that they intentionally hid the damage
and the knowledge that they knew about concussions,
the damage that it caused and what it did since 96.
and they waited 10 years before finally not really admitting it because they haven't admitted it, you know.
It's still as a part of the settlement even.
You know, it's like you throw a couple billion, multi billions of dollars at this thing.
It's open-ended, so who knows where it's going to go.
Was it enough?
I heard a lot of criticism when it happened.
It wasn't enough money.
Well, it's supposed to be open-ended, but the structure of the settlement,
and who's supposed to get it is still in question because they're still trying to say,
you can't see this disease until you're dead, which is a bunch of bullshit.
They've got a bunch of scans out there now that can show this disease, show it very clearly.
I've been a part of two studies back in Boston that clearly show CTE, this disease in the brain.
But until there's enough time of study with these scans that are new and unproven,
they're allowed to just continue to, you know, kick the can down the road and say,
well, we don't know if these players got this disease, you know.
I mean, you can see it on a basic MRI scan.
You know, I've had two on my brain, or three, and they're just, it's a big blurred mass.
When my brain comes up, there's, you know, an area right in the front of my skull and my brain
that is just a dark, blurred mass.
and all the doctors every time I get it scanned get all freaked out and they you know
how many confessions did you have two documented in the NFL which was quite rare and uh but
knowing what a concussion is uh you know I've had hundreds you know I mean over the course of my
career played 109 games I think and all the training camps etc is you know I mean that's a lot of
concussions. You're earning a fucking job
in training. Yeah, exactly. You're earning
a fucking job. It used to be
that way. Now it's not, you know.
It's a year-round deal so they don't have
to, or at least because
of a lot of people fighting
against these teams
just running their ships like
slave owners, man.
I mean, some of these training camps were just
brutal, just, I mean, killing guys, literally.
Corey Stringer.
And so we had to fight a lot
for, you know, getting these guys to where they're at today.
Because we had to go through the trenches, literally.
I mean, it was Louisiana, you know, Tibado, Louisiana.
Just asking the trainer one day, how hot is it, man?
And he's in the shade.
He says, it's 135.
And you're like, humor is fuck.
Oh, my God.
Pads, helmets, gloves, tape, socks.
socks, shoes, you know, double pairs of socks, shoes.
Every time you step, enough sweats coming through the holes of your shoes, the air holes,
you're just, you know, and sweat is just billowing up out of the holes, squishing out.
Every time you take a step, and it's like, quack, quack, quack, every guy.
Coach is getting life-flighted from the field.
Players getting ambulance emergency to the hospital body locks, you know, full body lock, cramp.
All day long, players, left and right.
Ambulance come every day multiple times, taking guys on.
And they were just like, you know, all right, we had a trainer got fired for that because he was opposed to it.
And they brought in a, this guy had been the trainer for 30 years, Dean Klinchman,
and he was opposed to the owner bringing the Saints camp back to Louisiana.
That was kind of the beginning of the fall, you know, where I started to see the writing on the wall, like,
what the fuck?
These guys are just all about money, man.
This is not about the dream and the game.
like they talk about, you know, this is all about money.
How disappointing is it when you find out it's all about the money?
Really disappointing.
It really does. It really does.
As an athlete, you know, because you fought for that dream so hard, you know,
to get to that level is, I mean, you're, I mean, one in a million, you know,
multi-million, one in a billion, you know?
I mean, to be the best, especially to rise to the level of,
being recognized as one of the best that's ever, you know, that's playing the game.
That's, that's just, it's tough when you see those types of things filter in, you know.
And then when it comes to your time to, you know, for them to acknowledge you, I guess, you know,
in contract situations, et cetera, like we talked about, then, you know, it's really, really jades you, man.
It's a, it's a rough pill to swallow, you know, because it's not like any other occupation where you just sat
in the classroom and you did a lot of mental work, this and the other. You literally, there's
blood, sweat, and tears, you know, that go into this, literal. People are going to say they worked
hard to become this or to become that, you know, and they put their time in. But as a football player,
especially back in the day, to make it to the National Football League took a tremendous
amount of sacrifice, you know. I mean, you, I gave up college. I went to, I worked for the Aztecs
for five years because I wanted to make it to the National Football League.
It was a full-time job.
And, you know, and literal, I mean, injuries, blown out knees and backs and getting under, you know,
go rush into surgery, rush into rehab, rush back to the field, you know, get back in,
get back in, constantly pushing your body.
And the whole time that's on you, you're two days away, you'll be fine.
No, yeah, of course they give you all the, no, they give you all the clearance and, you know,
to go back.
Kind of what Joey was talking about earlier with, are they getting big?
I was the least athletic kid in my school.
So if I'm wrong, tell me.
But it seems like a lot more now kids are playing the sport all year round and going to camps
and getting a lot of more specialized training.
So they're probably having all these injuries.
Like you said, like the kid in Poplar.
They're probably having like 10 knee surgeries by the time they get to the NFL or just something.
Oh, yeah.
Kids are getting burnt out these days big time.
It's not just football.
It's every sport.
You know, I mean, these parents,
today. I was coaching Little League and helped coach basketball back in Tennessee when I was living
in Nashville. And, I mean, no matter where it's at now, it's like these parents are just, and maybe that's
how it's always been. But, you know, some of these people just think that their kids going pro, you know,
and it's like they keep them from being a kid. That's fine if you think your kid's going pro,
but, you know, you got to let them be a kid. You know, they're just wearing these kids out, man.
And these parents say, as soon as their kid shows that they're good at one thing, better than, you know,
the others, they just focus on that one thing.
And it really sets these kids up, I think, for a real bad disappointment and failure, you know,
and is just not a good thing psychologically.
I mean, especially with football, because football is a whole other animal.
You know, I mean, that literal blood part is inevitable.
You know, the brain injury is inevitable.
We know that now, you know, and every parent should know that.
You put your kid in football, he's getting brain damage.
Okay.
You put your five-year-old kid into football right now, you're giving him brain damage.
As much as you're telling him to do his homework and get good grades so he can make it to the next level to play this game, you're, you know, it's counterproductive to what he's doing, you know.
So, you know, it's people got to start waking up to the realities of the human body.
It has only so much to give before it needs time.
to recover and people don't let it recover enough no matter what it is you know so now you
retire from st louis what's the first thing you did uh well i didn't retire from st louis they
released me and then uh that put me back out there i was out of football for two years um or a full
year i was out of a contract in o five and then uh made it back to play i rehabbed my ass off
and uh ended up getting clearance to go back to play and uh wound up
pushing two more years out of it with the Chiefs and in Kansas City there and, you know,
was able to walk away tall, you know, that I went back and made it back. I mean, my two best games,
the most memorable, obviously, you know, my first game when I came in, but the most memorable
was my comeback, you know, making it back from a major back injury. I mean, I lost a bunch
of weight. I had to just get in the whole rocky thing, you know,
I'm back in the gym, I'm going to do it again type of deal.
And, you know, just really hunkered down, went to amazing training facilities,
and worked with all my old people again, you know, to get it back.
And I made it.
And, you know, that first game back was just unreal adrenaline.
You know, so it was a good career, you know, very – I'm glad it went the way it did
because it exposed me to a lot of the things that I've, you know, been working.
working on for the past years that I've been retired with retired player issues and really
being vocal about it because having to go through that process of being the top and then
taken all the way back to the bottom and experiencing what the average player in the National
Football League experiences was priceless.
You know, yeah, I lost a bunch of money and, you know, and had to.
play for league minimum, all that stuff, and really grind it out, earn my job again, you know,
where I had just earned it by the way I played the game, you know, but now you're injured and you made a comeback.
You say, so you've got to fight for your job again now, okay, when they know you're the guy still.
But, you know, you've got to prove it.
And so fought through all that, man, and it was an eye-opening experience, you know.
And then over that course of time, a lot of things happened with the retired players.
and it was
you saw behind the curtain
and boom
there we are
yeah big time
once you see behind the curtain
and yeah
it really affects you
and kind of wish I didn't
no you never
once you see behind a curtain
and you experience it
and you live it
you go I wish
I wouldn't have seen behind
I tell Lee
a thousand times
Lee
I love comedy
until I started getting paid
right
I loved it
I love the excitement of going out and hustling and eating a burger or whatever.
They gave you at the club and you went home.
Once it got into money, it's where it sucks.
Comedy just blows.
Yeah.
You know, on both sides.
Yeah.
Now I have to be something for sure.
Right.
You follow me?
When I'm a feature, I don't have to be anything.
I just do 30 minutes and I go home and they give me a flat fucking feet.
Well, I mean, we've talked a lot.
It seems like there's a lot of parallels between sports and entertainment.
We talked a lot of people.
about what happened to Mitch Hechtberg.
You and I have talked about that a lot,
that they just kept putting them out there.
And then he ends up dead.
He ended up dead.
They didn't care.
They cared, but they didn't care.
And I understand it.
I got a $10,000 weekend for you.
Come on, let's go.
And I got three more behind that.
And instead of going, you know what, take four months out of them,
we just worked together for a year.
I know you got 100 grand put away.
Take six weeks off and call me back.
And I'll have a whole list.
But for those six weeks, I want to see you lifting weights.
I'll meet you once a week at the improv.
Yeah, you know, that's the hustle, man.
That's the hustle.
You're absolutely right.
It is what it is, you know.
I don't regret one bit of it.
Fuck no.
I love all the things that happened to me because it's made me, you know, who I am in all
its good ways and bad ways, you know.
But at the end of the day, I'm going to be able to, and my life is just going to be able
to pass priceless knowledge to my kids, you know.
and to a lot of other kids out there
that decide to look into
who was this guy
what was this about
and hopefully at the end of the day
they learned something
you know and it was
it's all been a part of the plan
you know I really feel that
there's a whole divinity around it
you know as well as
it's just the world
but for a lot of reasons
you know things happen man and entertainment
is entertainment though with with
whatever it is comedy music
I mean, I've toured the country coast to coast two, three times playing music now since.
You know, I've stayed in this entertainment business.
And, you know, I've experienced, I knew exactly what you're talking about with, you know, just having a burger, you know, and being at the bar with the bartender after the show, you know, and the staff.
You know, over at the merch booth and just shaking hands and just, you know, at the end of the day, sitting back on the bus or in the green room and just going, ah, you know.
That was amazing.
It was fun.
We tried that joke.
It worked.
I'd go back today.
If my body would allow it, I'd go back to play in football right now.
You're knowing everything you know?
Oh, yeah, 100%.
League minimum?
League minimum.
I could do it physically.
Unfortunately, I'm not Randy Moss, so I can't.
Apparently, he's going back to play.
That'd be crazy if he came back.
Yeah, he says he's coming back, man.
So we'll see.
It'd be awesome.
See it all the out there.
I feel differently when it comes to all that.
that stuff, man.
I feel that, especially if you played football since the high school level, and then,
I think after 37, 38, without little help.
Yeah, it's rough.
It's very rough.
Oh, yeah.
Your eyes, your anti-eye, you know.
I've lost a lot.
Nobody really comes, nobody could admit it until you pass it 10 years.
I'll tell you what, guys.
I remember going to the doctor when I was a kid and going, Doc, I want glasses.
And him going, your vision's fucking money.
I can't give you glasses for years.
At the age of 44 guys, I stopped saying.
And it got worse and worse.
All those concerts I went to, I talk about,
I brag about Judas Priest in the 80s and ACDs at the palladium.
I can't hear, like tomorrow when we go to kettlebell class,
I can't hear him talking.
I just nodded my head.
Because with the air and the fucking music
and people talking.
What do you hear?
I hear...
Crowd noise.
Crowd noise.
Yeah.
I hear crowd noise.
Once I start to focus it,
that's when I have vertigo.
You get vertigo?
Yeah.
I used to get it all the time.
It's a fucking horror show.
So I just leave it alone now.
If you come up to me sometimes
and talk to me and there's street noise
and people talking,
I'm just nodding at you.
I'm not fucking hearing it.
Yeah.
Because if I start to focus,
I'll fucking pass.
ass out.
Yeah.
Like, I get vertigo.
It's the weirdest thing, so I just leave it along.
I don't fucking hear no more.
Is it because I played football?
Fucking, no.
Now, let's, but I tell you what?
How long did you play?
Listen, I got hitting ahead a couple of times when I was a kid.
Yeah?
I had a concussion one time.
I fell off a motorcycle.
It's all it takes.
It's all it takes.
I hit a pipe.
What did I do?
What was my football thing?
I didn't play pee-wee football in North Bergen.
My mother had a bar in Union City.
So I played peewee football one year in North Bergen
And Union City
And I went to Jack Lambert's football camp
Offense, defense, Jack Ham, Jack Lambert
Had a football camp
Wow
And I went there for a week
And I was all jazzed up about football
And I came back
And you're supposed to be
125
Or 135
In those days
125 for 6th grade and 7th grade
and 135 for the 8th grade.
These are the really good guys.
I think I was at 132
and I was too young to play for the 8th grade team.
So I just focused on basketball.
My freshman year, I went to play basketball
and they said, listen, you got to play football
to get in shape for basketball.
Because the guy, the defense guy,
is the head coach of the basketball.
So he'll put you on sprint drills
and even though you won't play football,
he won't let you play.
You'll practice and you'll build a relationship
that lasts about a fucking week.
I was a basketball player.
I didn't want to get fucking tackle.
Nah, that's a better choice,
but you had some head injuries,
so it does. It contributes to it, you know?
I was a burglar.
I got hit with a head with a pipe.
Yeah, I was a burglar.
I'm going to forget this one particular,
the night that Ralphie
was here last week.
Oh yeah?
He was talking about PTSD.
Yeah.
And I got a bunch of fucking emails
going on, what if Ralphie?
Get hit in the headway or whatever.
And I was thinking about it particular.
It was like July
of 94.
I hope you don't mind
that tell this story, Kyle.
Go ahead.
I was basically broke.
I was working at national car rental,
washing cars,
and checking them in.
And I was doing comedy every fucking night I could.
I mean, all I wanted was a pain in my heart to do fucking comedy.
I was 31 years old, and I would go to lunch and eat every day at this place in and out.
From Valmont and 28th Street, because they made fresh chicken colors.
It's not that shit you buy at stores.
These motherfuckers went and got high-quality chicken colors, pounded them, dipped them an egg yolk, flour.
Fucking real Italian breakworms.
Every day?
fresh and then they let them
cool down instead of fuck with them
so when you got there they were crispy
they're still there no they sold
these four guys the one guy car
he said it was in and out did they sell
I think it was in and out I can't
the guy got one of them got caught
selling a sending steroids over from
Germany long distance that was the end of
the restaurant business they sold the chain
but my point being I used
to meet this guy there
once a week I always owed him on
I used to buy coke from
and he was a weird Spanish dude
I mean like no fucking English
no nothing
and we just happened to bump into each other
on the right afternoon
and he had a chunk of blow
and I gave him like 300 miles
and he gave it to me
and I was supposed to sell it
and do this with it
and do that with it and do this with it
I took that shit home
I did one line and it was all over
I bolted down the door
I think I ran to the liquor store
bought a six pack of fat tire
I fucking got some rolling papers
I went home
I did that whole block
It had to be four or five grams of blow
This is some of the best blow
I ever did the fucking 90s
I mean I stayed up for a day and a half
Wacking off
Crawled on the floor
Snorting pieces of fucking ceilings
It was horrible
I must have taken 82 showers
And then I fucking woke up the next day
And I was hungry
And I'll never forget what I felt like
I felt like
I had brain
damage. That was the one time, and I did Coke
for 27 fucking years, and that night particular
ran on. I didn't do, there was nights
I went 18, 19 grams.
When I was in my 20s, oh,
I don't know nothing about that. Fuck yeah.
When I was in my 20s, I could do
a chunk, me and this crazy dude
from Tennessee. But
in my 30s, I was little controlled, and I did that.
And I'll never forget riding a bicycle
the next day. Jesus. And going to
eat at this place in and out. It wasn't
in an hour. I forget what the fucking name
it was. It could have been there. And I made
the left onto that with the bicycle.
I'll never forget thinking my
mind's never going to focus.
Like it took me four days
to recover. It wasn't an alcohol
hangover. It was a strict. Chemical.
It was a chemical hangover.
It had jolted my central nervous system. This coke
was so fucking yummy. This coke
was so fucking good.
That till this day, things happen
And I go, you know what?
It's from that night with that blow.
No way.
Oh, yeah, I got mental fucking...
Listen, when I quit doing coke,
I was getting electric shocks in my spine
that my fucking neck would hurt
and I'd have to fucking straighten up like that.
So at any time, any day, this thing was going to short circuit.
Well, same question that Kyle answered.
Like, looking back on it, wouldn't you still do coke?
Knowing what you know about it?
Like, if you have brain damage from it,
I mean, it's a little different.
It's a funny story, but I mean, to do that much and get fucking,
that's a fuck-down.
A little easier to do.
They show some fucking half of Momo on TV.
All right.
My name is Joey Diaz.
I did blow for 27 years.
Now I can't count backwards.
Really?
Nobody invites me to New Year's parties.
Oh, man.
Hey, well, you know, the problem is,
Going back to the brain injury, it's about just protocol and recovery.
We've never addressed the injury.
You never addressed your injury from the drug issue or getting in a motorcycle accident or playing football or whatever it was.
You've never addressed your brain injury.
I never had the opportunity to address my brain injury.
We haven't thought about this enough.
We haven't had any, on top of that, we haven't had anything.
to help us medically, we've been given things that, frankly, are making it worse.
You know, our country is being overrun with pharmaceuticals, and people are being prescribed
things left and right, just freely like it's candy.
And, you know, these things are making brain injuries so much worse.
You know, people with manic depression and anxiety and bipolar disorders don't need to be
taking these chemicals.
They have done a horrible job at creating these drugs.
drugs because all they do is mask, as I've been on them, I've been on Wellbutrin and Zoloft
and Deppicoat for the past six years. And these things, all they have done is masked the issue
and then created a whole other realm of problems that didn't exist because of the side effects.
You know, after about five years in on a psych med, you start to feel these needs.
negative effects. You start reading the bottles and going, holy shit, you know, yeah, I'm thinking
about suicide more. I'm thinking about this more. I'm thinking about, I'm way more depressed, you know,
like this is supposed to be addressing this. It does at certain times and your levels are right
and then you feel good. But after, you know, good five years into psych med, it just starts preying
on your brain on all those negative ways. So are you on that because of CTE or is that just
I have been personally? I have been. I was. I've been off of those things for about six months now.
But was it caused by CTE or was that just you personally?
No, I think that there are some personal, I guess, inherencies in individuals.
But the brain injury itself, from what we understand about it,
what I understand talking to the best doctors in the world on this,
it's that it makes it all those issues that you might have going on.
It exacerbates them, like 10,000 fold.
So if you've got problems, if you've got a giggle problem,
You know, and your brain is injured.
It's going to make it, it's going to make it fucking go to the 10th level.
All I saw is you did the sign of the cross and make you historically laughing.
I think that edibles kicking in.
This brought you by anarchy edibles.
Yeah, anarchy edibles.
Well, speaking of, though, that's that's a great segue because it leads,
leads to what, you know, I'm trying to do with that.
I mean, you know, we've been given these things to deal with these issues,
and they've made them, you know, worse, some better.
And, you know, you know.
I think marijuana can change the game, personally.
You know, I think marijuana is going to be the answer to helping us continue to be able to play our sports,
play football, get brain injuries, and recover from them.
Growing up, not really growing up, like, before I left,
Jersey, I was fucking crazy.
Right, come.
He's to hang out this bar called the Midtown
Lown. There was a guy that used to come in there,
an Irish guy, Johnny Reed,
and he tried to kill himself.
It's hilarious.
Hold on, no, no, no, hold on.
But he fucked up, and he
landed in a garbage dumpster.
And he banged his
head on the way down.
So they did, like, brain surgery.
He was never really the same.
They sent them a check.
You got a disability check from falling into the dumpster?
They sent them like...
They're trying to commit suicide.
Like, they used to send him a monthly check.
He'd take the check and give it to the bartender at the Midtown lounge, Tommy Sharpels.
And then Tommy were telling him, like, by the fucking 24th.
Listen, you got no money left.
But he would be okay in the mornings.
You could talk to him.
Like, Johnny, what's happening?
I got to go see this guy about a fucking job.
Things are fucking bad.
You know, everybody's got a job.
And then, after you have a couple.
drinks. He was crazy
but not violent.
And if he did get violent, he'd go
in the corner and just throw punches by himself.
Wait, was this the guy you locked in the bathroom?
We locked him in the bathroom when they had a bar.
Johnny Reed, but you're talking about
people who were taking pills.
You know, this guy, I don't know if he was on
medication, but he drank
like a fucking fish.
Either way, it's poison, man.
The alcohol is in itself.
It's feeling it. It's a chemical. It's
it. It's a chemical. It's going to
going into your bloodstream, going through your brain, and eating it away.
I'm talking about ref.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
How does this come into the picture, my brother?
Well, I just think that, you know, it's going to change the game on how we deal with brain injury, personally.
To smoke when?
During the games, after the game.
You don't have to smoke it, you know, you know how it is.
Yeah.
You're eating it.
It drops, whatever, you know?
They got it in patches, vaporizers, you know, these types of things.
It's, you know, completely 100% healthy now.
There's no excuse.
for us to continue to say we don't know enough when our government owns a medicinal patent on it for a neuroprotectant and an anti-inflammatory.
How do you know that enough?
And, you know, my personal experience that's helped me to get off all those pharmaceuticals, you know.
So it's undeniable for me.
And when you find your strains that really speak to your body, you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
You know, you put you, you don't even have to feel high.
You know, on the right strains, you don't even, it just, you feel great, you feel perfect, you feel normal.
And you can tell that that's what all those, after being on psych meds and painkillers and all those other things,
that's all they're trying to do is to mimic what, you know, I've personally found in certain strains, marijuana, you know,
and the opiates as well.
It's all just synthetic versions of that stuff.
Just push that back a little bit, just talking the great part.
The grape, there we are.
There we go.
So you said one of your partners in this company is Ricky Williams.
Yeah, Ricky and I have joined together.
We've got a couple other partners out of San Diego.
Michael Cendrick is a big-time attorney.
His dad was Ralph Cendrick, mega super agent back in the day,
wrapped all the quarterbacks, and then the 80s, 90s, some early 2000s maybe.
but we're putting together a good group of football players to really kind of progress the advancement of medicinal marijuana.
You know, I mean, this is something that we need as athletes.
You know, we've been getting killed by these pharmaceuticals left and right.
So, you know, and some of us have had these experiences that have stuck with it and really been on the hunt to track this down as a medicine.
And it's real.
So, you know, we're organizing the guys that are familiar with it and understand it to get around it and help hopefully, you know, push the needle on it at all levels because this is not funny anymore.
Okay. People are dying daily right now. People are dying while we're talking from pharmaceutical drugs that they've been given, you know, just like nothing.
You know, they write you that prescription so easily when it has side effects of death.
You know, I mean, this is serious stuff.
Marijuana has not killed a soul in the history of the world, you know.
If it did, you'd be hearing about it a lot.
And it makes no sense to why it's not legal for one in America.
You know, we're supposed to be free, but medicinally that we continue to make the excuse
that we don't know enough about a plant that's been around for thousands of years and used as a medicine.
That's absurd.
So obviously, when you look at the history of the game,
game that the government's created with this, you understand it. You understand that this has
some high medicinal value, pun intended, that they don't want us to understand. So I think it's
past time that they can control that because of social media and the information era that we're in.
And professional athletes notoriously can move that needle. You know, if I can go from taking a
cocktail of pharmaceuticals that encompasses, you know, 10 bottles as a daily regimen for since
1996, you know, I've been on a myriad of medications, unbelievable amounts of medications
for 20 plus years. And now I've been free of those for six months and I feel better than I
felt in probably 10 years and dealing with things on a whole other level psychologically.
emotionally, et cetera.
These drugs were not helping.
They were,
they're a facade.
Some people need certain medications to deal with things.
I'm not going on full Tom Cruise, but, yeah.
You should have the option.
You should have the opportunity.
Yeah, exactly.
At the end of the day, it's absurd,
and especially in America,
that we don't have the option of cannabis as a medicine.
And the NFL has, like,
I'm pretty just like a zero.
tolerance because with Josh Gordon and all these
years are just being taken away
from people. Their whole livelihood.
They've been made to be these criminals.
I mean, how many of these guys
that just get pulled over for having weed
and now they're a thug?
You know, they're from this, oh yeah,
they were, you know, from this area of New Orleans or Chicago, of course,
or L.A., whatever.
You know, these guys are just thugs, you know.
And all the dude had was something that a judge
is carrying in his fucking car,
from the courthouse every fucking day in America.
So is that why you're, because as a fan, like sometimes when the Josh Gordon stuff happens,
or when any player happens and they get caught for stuff like that, you're like,
you're getting paid millions of dollars, why can't you just not smoke weed when you're
going to get tested or done this for those few years?
But what your point is is that it actually is not just for fun.
If someone, especially in a problem situation like that, okay, you have to look at what's
going on.
Why are they doing this?
this is obviously a medication for them.
They'll prescribe you all these drugs, okay, that will do what they think this does, okay, right here.
But at the end of the day, it doesn't.
And that's why players do it.
That's why lawyers do it, doctors do it, judges do it, presidents of our own country do it,
and people around the world do it at the highest levels of leadership and accomplishment and everything else.
it's because it works better than anything else.
And at the end of the day, it's a natural element that's not going to kill you.
So as an athlete, and you're looking at a handful of pills versus what we have today,
I don't understand why a player can't be prescribed this and should be prescribed this after a concussion.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
These things come in little compacts now.
Here, okay, this is going to last you about a week or two.
go home, sit in a dark room, air conditioning on,
listen to some Zeppelin and fucking chill out, you know, for a week
and hopefully let this brain thing calm itself down.
No, we need to get back on the field as soon as possible,
and marijuana's evil.
You know, when it's proven to slow the progression of Alzheimer's,
that's a football disease.
That is our disease.
We own that disease right now.
There's no other sport in America that we're in the world
that owns Alzheimer's disease and dementia.
like football does.
And it's, you know, ridiculous.
It's not an option.
And that the league has this stance on it when it's something that could be
and should just be, you know, free as an American to do,
I mean, while they're promoting Budweiser and every other alcohol,
alcoholic beverage that sends people to the hospitals into the morgue
after every football game on every weekend coming up here,
as the football season is about to begin,
all you've got to do is look at the statistics of,
death on the freeways from accidents after on weekends during football season they're pretty high you know
I mean while they're promoting this it's just hypocritical that they would be striking players down
knowing the medicinal value for one but you know that it's that mind is still in 1969
yeah and it will be there for the next 20 years 20 30 years these people are ridiculous and the things
you talk about they know I mean they know these things so and they look at it as
as a drug still.
You know,
and don't they,
you always hear all these rumors
that they don't test for T-HC
and the NBA.
They used to not.
I think they do now.
Right, they don't,
or they do not.
Yeah,
now I think they do,
but I don't know how strict it is.
I know that they didn't,
you know,
they didn't test for anything.
How often do they test you
as an NFL player?
NFL players only have
one test a year for street drugs.
So that's the other thing.
I mean,
you know,
if they were really staunch against it,
then they should be putting it
in the random drug testing program.
But they don't.
They put it in just as once a year test.
You take it.
Everybody knows it's coming right around training camp,
and you just, you know, get right.
That's why it's been illegal in the NFL.
They have this weird mentality of wanting, I guess,
to weed out these guys that they don't think are, you know,
team guys or whatever, you know, for the organization.
They're looking for fall guys instead of football players, you know.
It's a real...
It's a business.
It's a corporation.
Exactly.
You've got a bunch of business guys running a fucking sport that they don't need to be running because it's bigger than that.
It's much bigger than their bankrolls.
It's much bigger than their private jets.
Football is not a sport like any other.
You play this game.
You make it to that level.
It's modern day gladiators.
You know, I mean, rugby players as well.
I mean, these are gladiator sports.
MMA, you know, to achieve the greatness of mixed martial arts.
The UFC.
Especially for players who are played positions like yours, like the linemen or maybe the linebackers.
Rugby players.
Receivers can hit too.
And so like, winding backs have like a three-year career, which is pretty crazy.
That's the average length career in National Football League.
What's the offensive lineman career?
The average length of an NFL career is three and a half years.
I guess statistically linemen have longer careers, you know, because you don't have to keep your speed as much, you know, as these other positions.
skill positions, they call it.
You know, at the line, you can lose a step, you know.
I can come off a bad back injury and lose a step and still play a line, you know,
whereas you play receiver or, you know, DB, you're getting burnt, you know.
So it's, yeah.
But that doesn't really make sense because for receivers, you don't get hit every play.
As a lineman or like a linebacker, you're just like, like there's a player.
I forget who, what is, it was either Mankins or so I'm a person.
Patriots favorite, and he played with a torn ACL for like half the season as like a alignment.
Put a knee brace on, tape it up.
Yeah, man.
Jack Lambert, taped a magazine to his broken tibia, ran back out there with a magazine bracing his broken leg with duct tape.
Well, that's with adrenaline and stuff.
That's part of the other thing that's always been interesting to me.
Why are you playing the game and why you're in the game?
and why you're in there
and knowing
the pressure
that you're replaced
the next fucking day
they got four guys behind you
while you're in the action
you're taking those testosterone shots
you're taking those fucking
cortisone shots I'm sorry
yeah pain killers
yeah you're eating the fucking painkillers
because this is what you do guys
this is what the fuck you do
yeah
but you didn't know
we didn't know
you know and you don't know
We didn't understand the serious nature.
You know, they started letting guys know that, hey, you know, shortly after your career's over with, your kidneys are going to shut down.
You know, you think down the road, when you think in injuries in football, you know, you just think, you don't think it's going to come so soon, you know, the serious ones.
I mean, you've got guys that are going down right now from all these medications with their kidneys and livers left and right.
You know, alcohol is a problem with issue too, but it's the pharmaceutical drugs that are just overloading our systems.
I was wondering that.
Are you, did anyone ever come to you and say, you have to take this or you have to go out sooner?
Or is it just what Joey said, and you know that if you don't and you're out for an extended period of time, your job is on?
That's why they don't have to say it.
When you don't have a guaranteed contract and there's a guy sitting there ready to go and you know that you're not going to get the time to recover from that injury if you don't.
go, then, you know, that's the problem.
I just gave you, I just got you out of debt.
I got you to give that beautiful fucking girlfriend
a big diamond ring. She's knocked up.
You're two years in. You're a year away from renewal.
You know, you had fucking three sacks.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, something happens.
Your shoulder hurts. They ain't going to hurt that much.
The guy across from you, he's been fucking on your
season. You and I both know
you don't have time to miss two fucking games.
This guy has the game of his life.
You're running uphill now.
It's that fucking fast. What do you do?
Do you feel that way with comedy?
Huh? Do you feel that way with comedy?
Because I'm the type of person I am.
I feel that way with everything in life.
You got to.
I feel that way with everything in life. You got to go, man.
I remember Don Romero and I was a basketball guy.
And I told you that in those
days, the other day I walked around early. I walked the jih Tzu and the sun was shining on me a weird way this morning.
At 9.30 in the morning, I was like, wow, this reminds me of an East Coast morning when I would leave the house early just to go take 300 shots.
I once heard that Jerry West used to shoot 300 shots, just jump shots every day.
So I said, this is what I'm going to do before I even go play. I'm going to just shoot 300 fucking jump shots.
and you know
you have to assume
that if you're not practicing
that guy you're going up against
he's practicing
he's in the fucking gym right now
doing jumping jacks
you're on the couch
because you're near it's really
really
all your life you've worked with
there's a difference
you know with injury
that's the that's the thin line
that they've kind of treaded
in the national football league
with players
you know this
you need to know the difference
between pain and injury
has been the saying
the motto
That's what they, I'm sure, still speak about today.
At the end of the season, they're like, oh, everyone's heard of this point.
I mean, when you know, I mean, if the difference is a player's going to go no matter what.
You're going to have a guaranteed contract, then you're going to go no matter what, okay?
If the doctor tells you, hey, look, your shoulder's torn, you know, it might cause you to, as a professional athlete,
it would likely cause you to take a step back and say, do I want to go out?
there and risk ripping it completely away from the bone right now.
In my back injury, if I would have been told, hey, you got the makings of a real bad herniated
disc right now.
It's probably just bulging, you know, you might want to think about taking off because otherwise
it's going to herniate and then it's going to be a surgery situation for sure.
No, we don't heal in two weeks.
Do what you need to do.
That's what they show.
Fuck yet.
That's what they show.
They throw their Hippocratic oath out the window because they're protected by their collective
bargaining agreement.
that our fucking fake-ass union negotiates with the National Football League all the time
to let these doctors just run freely away from any recourse from their advice.
Who's making that decision?
Is it the doctor?
Does the general manager tell the doctors?
Oh, yeah.
At the end of the day, they have a meeting with the doctors.
And those people sit in the rooms with the coaches and the general managers and the doctors.
And the doctor will give his report.
They'll sit in a boardroom like this with people.
all around and they'll have the injury report and a doctor will come in and he'll say this is what
I got and they'll say to him, okay, how bad is it? And the doctor goes, well, and then that's when
it starts to happen. They start piecing those injuries away and saying, well, okay, it's just
kind of a minor terror, it's a minor spraying. Okay, can you tape it up? Yeah, I think we can get
away with that. I think we can do it. And these doctors sit up there and tell these coaches that,
yeah, and that's how they get hired, you know. I mean, I've had friends that have sat in these
meetings with these assholes that are willing to just wash away any advice to the player and just
give it all to the team.
You know, I mean, they don't care one bit because they're not paid to, you know, and they
know they can walk away.
That's the biggest crime that's been committed is that these doctors can walk away.
There's no vested interest by the team or these doctors for these players to be healthy
because they can walk away clean from any bad information given.
Doctors are like insurance adjusters.
They're there to basically cut you off.
They're there to say, you know what?
You're okay.
I'm clearing you to go back on the field.
You know what?
You don't really need to be in the hospital for three days.
We're going to send you home in a day.
Meanwhile, you're not ready to fucking go home.
And if you go get a second opinion, then you become a guy who doesn't want to play
with the team.
You know, if a guy says, well, that doesn't feel right to me.
I'm going to go get a second opinion.
The answer from your doctor doesn't seem right.
this injury. It seems a lot worse. And I have the right within the collective bargaining agreement
to go get a second opinion. But when you do that, and you're not a, you know, a big time guy,
then you become a marked man. And even if you are a big time guy, you become a mark. I became a
marked man. You know, when I came out here to L.A. to the back surgeon, and he said, I can't
believe they put you back out there after four months off of back surgery. You were back into two a
days. And I was like, yeah, man. And he's like, you can't even lift your foot up. You got drop foot so bad
that I wouldn't clear you want a basic physical right now to go do anything but, you know, general rehab.
He's that, and, you know, but those doctors are, oh, you're good to go.
Here, you know, try to touch your toes and here, try to touch your nose.
Okay, go out there, you know, go play.
There's no, there's no proper protocol to recovery from injury at any level.
I mean, they got all the tools, they got all the drugs and medications and rehab equipment
and the best masseuses and chiropractors and therapists and this, that, and the other.
But it's all there just to hurry that process up instead of to really address,
okay, you might want to take a few weeks off here.
And let's do that before you go back to the field.
Otherwise, you know, they'll never give you that information.
I mean, they'll vaguely elude to serious situations,
but they're never going to stop the player from going.
I really hate the loyalty conversation.
Like, for me personally, I'll be loyal to Joey until the day I die because he's taking care of me since I've been out here in L.A.
And especially in podcasts, a lot of podcasts, they don't take care of the producers at all.
They're lucky if they get $25 bucks.
So I'll be loyal to you until the day I die.
But there's, especially in sports, how can they even bring up loyalty when they'll trade you?
And that's fine.
That's part of the business.
But if they're not loyal to the players at all, how can they push it back?
It doesn't make sense.
That's where they lose the players, you know?
Today you realize you're a fucking piece of meat.
That's why you have class action lawsuits.
That's why the game has been trudged through the mud because they haven't chosen to do the right thing.
They haven't chosen to honor the benefits.
They set all these things up and make it look like, oh, we have all these great programs just out and the other.
And at the end of the day, they don't follow through.
They don't, I mean, no union worth of shit in America is going to let an employee leave the job injured without receiving full benefits.
and as an NFL football player who's supposed to have the best union in America,
you know, they paraded around so heavily,
you have to fight against your own union to get them to get your benefits.
I mean, the boards that they have in place that make decisions on who gets disability
and who doesn't is set up with guys that aren't even doctors.
They're just ex-football players that have personal opinions, you know,
and Roger Goodell.
What the fuck do you know about it, asshole?
You played in college for a minute.
Your daddy was a politician.
You held coffee for fucking Pete Roselle for,
I don't know how many years,
and sniff jocks around the locker rooms.
You think you earned the right to be where you were at just because of that.
And I don't have more of a stance than you do in this,
and you don't want to sit and try to listen and understand what's going on.
That's why I have all these problems in the NFL.
It's why it's looked so ugly and why we're losing.
a fan base and all these parents don't want to put their kids in. Everybody's blaming concussions.
It's not because of concussions. It's because these parents are sitting at home going,
Jesus, I don't want my kid to grow up in that sport. These guys are a bunch of fucking idiots.
Let me give some shoutouts real quick. We'll get to the next thing here.
Jonathan Colby, and I love you, cocksucker. Aldean Franco, Marcus Lamos. Thank you. Anthony
Torito and Buffalo. Get it together. Jonas Presadio. Happy birthday.
My main man Malcolm Riddle, happy birthday.
And Amy, another one, two.
Love you.
Go ahead, asking.
I'm sorry for interrupt.
It's not even just the medical part of it.
I've got to give the shoutouts, man.
Huh?
Got to give the shout outs.
Sure, these people are fucking loyal savages.
Damn right.
You got to take care of these motherfuck.
Listen, man, at the end of the day, we're all corporate.
My wife worked at a corporation, 10 years.
When in there when she was fucking sick.
You know, I used to talk to her at night.
I used to tell her calm down.
She's a fucking American.
She believes in her job.
She gets knocked up.
We have the kid.
She goes back.
She asks for a raise to give her 3%.
My wife was furious.
She quit.
Next lady comes along.
They started at $30,000 more
and took away three of her jobs.
We live in some fucking weird time
with no loyalty.
And at the end of the day,
you realize you're a fucking
piece of me. You're a
fucking piece of me.
And that's the world though, you know.
I mean, that's the real world and that's what people
need to understand. But
that type of shit, they stop fighting.
That type of shit shouldn't exist in football,
man. It shouldn't exist in the NFL.
It's too great of an accomplishment, you know.
I mean, not the lesson
anybody's accomplishments,
you know, how long they work at companies
or anything like that. It's just to
achieve that physical greatness
just requires such a
an unbelievable dedication that people
don't understand. To be in the fucking NFL.
They just see little things and it just
kind of looks easy. So most people just
kind of take it for granted. The amount
of dedication that goes into accomplishing
that dream to make it to the NFL
is unreal.
There's nothing. I've surfed
waves, the size of buildings.
I've done anything. I've been in
shark waters. There's
nothing that
compares to play in the National Football League in that adrenaline rush and that sense of
accomplishment.
I mean, I mean, I've had kids and, you know, of course, my kids are unbelievable and it's,
you know, having my wife, every time I've been married 13 years.
I just have so many great things, but nothing in the world compares to that rush.
It's another level, another level, man.
Running out there on a Monday night.
I do it right now.
I've run through a brick wall to do that right now.
I just can't run anymore.
Me too.
I fucking love to play Monday Night Football.
You get to me, Lee, Zayette.
That'd be crazy.
How crazy.
80,000 people just exploding.
Unreal.
What happened to Monday night football?
I was telling Lee, when I was young, young,
Monday Night Football started at 9 p.m. in New York City.
6 p.m. here.
And nine o'clock that fucking game started.
That's late.
And if the game was great, that game went until fucking midnight.
At least.
12.30.
Yeah.
And I was telling me a particular game, San Diego play,
when they had an air coriol coaching.
Yeah.
Don Coriol.
And they went back and forth.
I think it was them in the Minneapolis, Minnesota Vikings.
They went back and forth.
And they beat them like 54, 53, with, you know,
three minutes left and overtime.
That's amazing.
A hundred points in a football game
on a Monday night.
Monday night, she...
As Eric Coriel, man.
Lee, right now, we would not...
Father of the passing game.
25 years ago, Lee, we would not be doing this podcast right now.
Wouldn't even be a thought?
I wouldn't even consider it
because Monday nights was an event.
Yeah.
From the time, I must have been the seventh grade,
but it got built up.
By the time the 80s hit, it was fucking huge.
People are having parties in bars or you could eat or you could drink, you know, meatballs, you know, this, that.
So you went to the bar who had the best food.
Some people had buffets for Monday nights.
Monday nights?
Drink specials.
Fucking women were out.
People were out doing blow.
People were smoking dope.
Monday night.
You used to sacrifice.
As an entertainer, it became a, you couldn't book shows on Monday night.
No, nothing.
Nothing with nothing.
You didn't get, you went out and got so fucked up.
for those two hours that you didn't do
comedy after that, like I never
I always sit there and go
what the fuck
happened to Monday nights.
Thursday, then Thursday night even
I don't like Thursday night games.
But for a minute there it was huge
you know, whatever night they wanted to pick
man. Football was became
America's sport, you know,
really did. In 1994
I worked for a sports betting service
in Boulder, Colorado.
And we work
Lee, Jew hours.
These guys were Jew.
These guys were Jews, dog.
They worked fucking hours.
So the only day you had off during football season was Wednesdays.
That's it.
Wednesdays.
And you had to work.
Starting Friday at 7 o' morning, you went to about 7.30 at night.
Saturday, big college day.
If you could be there at 5 in the morning, you'd be there until 7 at night.
Sunday, big pro football.
Again, 7 o'clock.
the fucking 6 o'clock at night league so Monday guess what you were in it's your biggest day of the week
Monday's when people lose $800 and you got to get them back and they call you for a fucking
winner so this is the day you work your ass off at that day the guy who owned that place on
Monday nights would rent out the bar every Monday would be a different fucking place and we could
eat for free till half time whatever the bar used to eat like those potatoes
those you like with bacon and shit in the middle
like savages. Which one?
Like the baked potato, like the load of baked materials.
Yeah. Like all that
type of shit. But Monday nights in this
country were huge.
There's too much now. Well, I don't
want to say too much. Then it went to
ESPN. Right. It's still
big. You know, it's not
it's not what it was. Do they even have
Monday football? Yeah. Yeah, they got money.
They do? They have two games, I'm pretty sure. Don't they have an
early game in a late game sometimes? I think so.
Yeah. I'm not sure. It's still a big deal. It's just
not what it was. You know, now it's
just super commercialized
and all about
your house. I mean, people are
just staying at home now. They're capitalizing
because all the TVs and everything,
you know, people are going out still
watching Monday Night Football. They'll go out to sports
bars and stuff, but not like it was.
Now, tell me this. Was there as many commercials
as there are now? Because there's a ton
of commercials in football games.
It's almost all commercial. That's
the beauty that has, that's how brilliant they are.
Do you know how many minutes make up an NFL, an average NFL football game of action?
You know, of actual play, how many minutes do you think?
Well, at the 60 minute clock.
For an entire game, how many minutes of actual action do you think there is in an NFL football game?
Ten?
Yeah, like between 10 and 14 minutes, between 10 and 14 minutes of,
play time. That's it. That's all the action that's
bawled into this experience
because there's so many commercials
and they replays
and they've just become the masters at
keeping people's attention
without providing
a consistent game of action.
Literally 12 minutes or something like that's the average
of an NFL football game
of action. That shows how exciting.
For three fucking hours you're watching this thing
and at the end of the day it's 12 minutes.
Every play is only a few seconds, you know.
You know me, I used to go to people's houses, but once the fucking onion dip was gone,
I got to go, bitch.
You're fucked up!
Where's that fucking right out of the container, too, that fucking French onion dip?
That's good, yeah.
With some ruffles, potato chips when you're stoned to the gills, 64-ounce bottle of Coke,
just fucking dipping those things.
With that alone, why wouldn't they legalize marijuana?
Why would they be promoting it?
Oh, my God.
We used to get fucked up.
How much money do you think, like, you think?
If you could look at it, like, money spent, like, I used to not want to watch it.
I'm still heavy, but I lost a lot of weight.
I used to not watch a football game without pizza and wings.
Right.
Like, how much money do you think is made throughout the whole thing, including, like...
What does it generate?
Yeah, just billions.
Between pizza, people taking cabs to...
That's why they control the stadiums, people taking fucking cabs to bars.
I was thinking I went to the Red Sox game, and it's in the middle of the city.
It's cost like 50 bucks to park.
So we took the subway in.
How much money do you think?
There's 81 Red Sox games every year.
How much money do you think the subway makes just those nights?
I don't know about that, but I know one thing when I was in St. Louis.
A guy stood outside.
They did an article on him.
He said he was tired and he was going to quit so he wanted to give up his ghost here with what he was doing.
This guy stood outside Cardinal Stilled Bush Stadium.
Only during baseball stadium and asked everybody that he would come in contact with.
They had a dollar.
and he sat out there only during baseball season, home games only,
and he said on an average he made during every baseball season like $70,000 to $80,000.
Just asking people for a dollar.
He drove a bends and lived in a nice house, everything.
And he got to the point where he was doing it all the time.
Wait, we're sending you up to dodging me.
I was just going to say I said I was going to be loyal to you, but I quit.
I'm moving back to Boston.
I'm going to go ask for a dollar.
outside of them.
Yeah, it's crazy.
The amount of money that's generated in that business is unreal.
Merchandise, I mean, you know merch selling T-shirts and shit, man.
I mean, they're selling them for 50 bucks.
For a T-shirt.
An NFL jersey is 100 bucks.
At least.
That's for a shitty one, you know?
And you don't get a piece of that.
Players get a chunk, you know.
Really?
But it's all profit shared.
But at the end of the day, the players have to pay for their own medical and all the
other people, you know, everything.
The players end up paying for all the benefits at the end of the day.
It comes out of the player pools.
The league contributes very little money.
How much of a pension do you get from the NFL?
How many years do you have to pay?
Pensions are shit.
They're the worst.
Football pensions are the worst.
And you don't get it until you're like 50 or 55 or something like that.
And you're probably like 35 when you retire.
The average life expectancy of an NFL offensive lineman is 55.
or 57 or something, you know, I don't know what it is.
It's ridiculous, you know.
They've adjusted some of those things, those rules with retirement benefits and stuff,
but there's still shit.
Baseball's got way better benefits packages and everything.
I mean, but, you know, they've got a lot of good things set up now.
They just don't like giving the benefits to people.
They'll fight them until the end, you know, to keep them from getting their benefits.
They won't accept your 10-inch-thick medical file over,
some third-party doctor that is working for them, you know, knowing that he's going to say that all these new cognitive issues you're having didn't stem from football, you know.
And that's why the loyalty thing doesn't make sense to me.
Like, we just signed Reggie Wayne today because the Colts wouldn't re-sign him.
The Colts are still making money off of Reggie Wayne.
They could have signed him to whatever the Patriot signed him and let him be on the team just for his 15th the year.
Bain Manning.
Yeah.
Bain Manning should have died a Colt.
What the hell? That's ridiculous.
They, you know, there's no loyalties at all in the National Football League.
It is not for long, as the old coach said.
And that's more true than in any other sport.
The National Football League, there's no guaranteed contracts for the players or lifetime medical.
So there's no vested interests on behalf of the teams or doctors, anybody else, the agents or whatever it is.
It all falls down to the player.
When I was a kid, I was a fan, guys.
I was a fan.
I went to baseball games, the football games,
basketball games.
And I'll tell you,
it's not like they reached out to you
and lit you fucking cigarette at these things.
But it just seemed like they weren't trying to fucking rob you.
I went to a thousand basketball games in Master Square Garden.
You know how lucky I was as a kid, Lee?
I didn't feel like I was going to get robbed.
If anything, I always snuck in there for $10, $15, shit like that.
When I go to an event now, I feel like I'm getting fucking robbed.
And I...
Raped.
I couldn't even imagine...
Worse than robbed.
Being a fan.
You know, with the fucking Laker Games, with the fucking...
Just regular...
Yeah, and there's some organizations that are giving out dollar tickets.
I don't think they're in football.
It's never...
It's never the good ones.
Not in football.
In Boston, the low...
Most tickets can be like 20-something for the bleachers.
What did you pay close tickets to end?
I got, I paid like 44 each and they were, they were, the ticket price was 56, but the
Red Sox sucked this year.
But even still, I paid 44.
We were sitting, like, pretty good seats, like kind of behind home plate.
$44.
Which is great.
But we were like in the seats that were literally there from like 1930.
But only $44?
That's, I mean, that's, I, for the front row, it's like $5, $700.
My buddy just tried to buy some.
some tickets for him and his boy. They're huge
Saints fans. They live out here in the valley.
And they wanted to go see the team
in Arizona
when they play the Cardinals this year.
And so
he goes to look online for tickets.
And the cheapest tickets with
at least a decency was like
back in the corner of the end zone.
$500.
$500. Off the company.
A ticket.
Well, I think that isn't that
why like tickets are scarce and there
people are selling them on eBay and stuff?
Still, you've created a system here that doesn't allow fans to go to the game.
It's just a party.
It's a who's who.
It's back to, I mean, they only let so many tickets, I think back in the day, go to, you know, out in the market to, you know, just bulk purchases like they do now.
I mean, they allow these companies to come in and purchase blocks of tickets.
that then go on these websites and, you know, people are selling them all over.
We didn't have social media like we had, you know.
So now it's just become this bastardized deal where it puts the little man out of the game.
So ultimately they can say, well, we only charge that much.
But at the end of the day, you set up the system to fuck the little guy, you know.
Well, they're guaranteed to sell all those tickets.
Because they don't, once the stub hub or whatever buys those tickets, they don't give a shit if the tickets gets sold.
Hey, you got to wait until the last minute, you know, and hopefully get a deal.
but right from the beginning
I mean it hasn't even been started yet
the season they haven't even
they're not ready to go to that game
I don't know when that game is
how far out it is
but you know he looked out
what he thought was plenty of time
to get tickets
and you know they're at 500 bucks
I mean months away from the game
and he's looked to buy him
tickets for him and his kid
you know and it's yeah I get it
it's entertainment and you got to
but at the same time
they've priced
out real football fans.
You know, the game changed.
I saw it change over my career.
98 into the 2000s became the shift, you know,
where the media and the whole entertainment thing just kind of took over.
And it wasn't about the players anymore and the history of the game and the loyalties
and all these other things.
It just became about this huge party, Monday Night Football's and all these things
that were just going out of control.
and the amount of money that was getting thrown around.
And so it just kind of lost its meaning, you know,
where people used to go and sit and, you know, dressed up
and watch the games.
And now it's chugging beers and eating popcorn.
And I paid 500 fucking bucks for these tickets.
You're not going to tell me to shut up lady type of stuff, you know.
And, you know, that's what the games turned into, you know,
a reflection of the time.
No, a reflection of the way they've, you know,
wanted the league to go
the way that they've created it.
A lot of times, like,
a lot of companies will have
sweets and stuff,
and that's why tickets get so high
because these companies can pay a lot of money.
And real fans aren't there?
My dad worked at a seafood place in Boston,
and they had seats above home plate,
right where the press box is,
like behind glass,
and there's waiters,
and it's great stuff.
But I hated.
I love, I didn't hate it.
It was cool to watch the game from there,
but my favorite place to watch the game from
is the bleachers.
Sure.
It's such a different experience.
And it's so much fun.
It is.
And it's not anymore.
You know?
I mean, it is, but it isn't.
It's just a big spectacle.
It's fun to go see the whole deal just for the experience because it's so massive now.
And all the bright lights and big screen TVs.
I mean, hell, Dallas Cowboys Stadium, you don't even, you can't even see the field.
You don't have to.
They got a massive screen in the middle of the, you know, in the middle of the stadium there that's as big as the field.
So that's what it's turned into.
It's unfortunate, you know.
As a player, it just sucks because you, you, you know, all this is fine and this is great and all.
But at the end of the day, you see all this growth, you see all this money and wealth and power and all these things just growing.
And you see the guys that built it and they're down here and they're in wheelchairs and they're fucked.
And they can't, their wives can't take care of them because they're a spouse.
I mean, guys have gotten divorced.
so that they can get the money from the NFL to be the primary caretaker because it can't be a spouse, you know, guys that have had Alzheimer's, dementia, bad situations, ALS situations.
And the league and the union doesn't care to honor their disabilities and allow them to, you know, live a decent life after that.
Or these little kids, you know, that are getting these spinals in these wheelchairs, you know, that can't walk anymore.
And they just go away, you know, go away.
And if we would only protect that and put a priority on honoring those individuals that sacrificed, you know, and for the dream, we wouldn't be where we're at with all the negative talk.
You know, we'd be praising football still and wanting all our kids to play it because at the end of the day, it does teach some great things.
but it's gotten lost completely on the whole entertainment aspect of it.
It's created a monster that they can't control where all these kids now.
It's not about making it to the NFL to honor those guys that you saw coming up.
I mean, it was Danny White, Tony Dorset for me, the Dallas Cowboys,
and then watching Howie Long.
I mean, just made me want to be like him, you know, I mean, watching those guys.
And I'm sure these young kids today are, you know, the same.
They're watching their favorite players.
But because of the commercialization of it and how the league doesn't really have,
and the kids they see this, how they don't have the players' backs and, you know, this whole mess that's gone on.
These kids today, I mean, they're showing up with earrings on.
You know, I mean, that all kind of started with Dionne Sanders and then just trickled down, you know,
and you still have it today with guys like Chris Carter that are going to say,
get yourself a fall guy
you know they don't want to hear from
guys like me they will never bring
me to the rookie symposium
because I'm going to tell their players what the fuck
they need to know
they would rather bring guys like that to the rookie
symposium so they can
tell them what they want them to know
and that that is we own you motherfucker
so
do what we say
and we'll take care of you
if you don't do what we say
and you don't keep
in line and you step
out and you say a few things here
you don't act like you want to go along with this
then fuck you
you know and that at the end of the
day is what all these kids are seeing
and that's corrupted football
and it's just
it's just a big old entertainment
industry now and all these kids are out for that
money at the end of the day
like ballers
ballers let's wrap this fucking up here
you talk to our sponsors
that was fucking great man
what's up Lee how you
you're feeling. You ain't even know. I'm fine as fuck.
No, you know.
You gave me like an entire tip of us.
No, we're going to finish.
There's brown. There's brown. You're fine.
Jesus Christ. Look, I can see it in your
face. You got no blotches. You're looking good.
The Boston there, did you eat pizza?
No.
What, you got hot dogs?
No, just, uh, legal. Don't be bullshit.
You guys need them. You need them kettlebells in here.
Shit. That'd be fun. Yeah.
I'm really liking that class.
Put them in here?
Yeah.
But to do it nice?
Get a microphone.
shit, you guys are eating enough edibles.
You need to burn that shit off.
I'll fucking pass out.
I almost passed out here 10 minutes ago.
I swear to God.
Oh, yeah.
I couldn't look at it.
I don't know how to have it.
We're going to, me and Ricky, we're going to create a whole line of nutritional
edibles that are going to be like protein bars and drinks and shakes and all kinds of stuff.
But we're going to put some good stuff in there and try to get people to use it at the right times.
and we believe it's going to make a big difference.
Right after a nice workout, 22 grams of protein.
Exactly.
150 milligrams of fucking high-powered Mexican fucking seed refo...
150 milligrams.
You really need to make one for Joey like 700 milligrams.
150 doesn't even...
It doesn't a drop in the bucket to you anymore.
150 a fine, refined, refined, way, fucking T.H.C.
Reefa protein mix.
The exact amount.
The right amount.
What's the...
The gonzaga juice from the...
from the jungles of Brazil and the Peruvian nut,
a specialized nut that flies in twice a year from the jungles of...
The nut flies in?
They fly the fucking thing in from the jungles of Thuimbamba, Colombia.
They use it for energy.
When they run out of cocaine, they eat this thing.
People will fucking drink those protein shakes up.
You make a nice chocolate, espresso, chocolate.
It would make the gym.
Nice to remember what it was high?
Sure, and a super duper.
loop of fucking special
Kyle milkshake with peanut
butter, wheat germ
fucking almond milk, the whole
thing. Tell them, dog.
With 150 TH80 milligrams
it's called you ain't going
nowhere protein shake.
In fact, get on a top second.
I'm not going to say nothing. You just cut my
commercial. There you go. Who the fucking think you're dealing with
some fucking novice from yesterday,
Bill? Let me give some shoutouts
here to my main motherfuckers
on it. Always
fucking keeping me together.
You didn't take that stuff to turn around 180.
I know.
I need some at the house.
You have to blast, listen, man.
I've spoken to three, four people
in two weeks that told me they flown and they got sick.
I fly all the fucking time.
I used to get sick all the time.
And there's a reason why I don't get sick anymore.
It's that fucking on it, that turnaround 180.
I blast a baby fucking pill.
I blast two fucking those things.
I put that powder in the thing.
and I stare it up and I drink with water.
When I start traveling, we'll have to get some.
And I avoid anything. I wipe the table down with the towelette.
I wipe my fingers down.
I don't touch shit on that fucking plane.
When I come off the plane, there's nothing but a shower in my future.
I check in, I swear to God, I don't fuck around.
I hear you. I hear you.
These motherfuckers walk around after they fly and mingle with people.
They ain't no mingling.
They ain't no mingling.
I forgot about that.
There's screens now that I was touching the entire three of the four flights.
Yeah, you just not at the airport.
I'll tell you, though.
I've been off of pharmaceuticals for six months.
months, my family, my wife, my kids, I got little ones. They've been sick a couple times. I
usually get sick when they get sick. And since I've been off the pharmaceuticals, they've been
sick a couple times, and I've been around other sick people, and I've not gotten sick once. I've
been on airplanes, and I've been run down, and I've been kicking my ass trying to get myself back
in shape. Your resistance is top notch. And I believe that off, I mean, I don't even take an aspirin
anymore. I don't take a leave. I don't take aspirin. I don't take anything with any chemicals in it
whatsoever anymore. And since having that lifestyle, I've been healthier, I think, than I've
ever been in my life. I mean, I'm not getting sick at all. I'm like back to being when I was a kid
with all the growth hormone pumping through my veins and not getting sick. It's been actually
quite eye-opening to rid yourself of pharmaceuticals and to trust cannabis. It's something
that I think everybody should do
just to give it a shot because for me
it's created a whole other life for me.
Take a chance, Columbus did it, cocksucker.
Throw away the viking and listen to Kyle Turley.
Damn right.
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Let's be honest with yourselves.
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they don't want the fucking product.
That's belief. That's why I fuck with these people.
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Oh yeah. He gave me one
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I barely made it down.
I barely made it down from his house in the hills there to the hotel.
Oh, okay.
I had so much.
That was a rough night.
So you were there when they got him off the helicopter off the ship?
I wasn't there.
No, no, I wasn't there for that.
Yeah, this was at his house, man.
Yeah, no, I can't mess with edibles too much.
Use code with Joey's church.
As long as they're strain-specific.
That's what...
These are.
These are an anarchy.
I don't know what the strain is.
Anak E.L.G.
Direct from fucking hell.
This is the shit they gave A. Blinken
before they shot him in the head.
This is the shit.
This is just the shit right here.
Robbie had a whole carrot cake.
I ate a whole carrot cake.
Listen, let me tell you so.
It's horrible.
These brownies from Anika edible.
Yeah, the stars are great.
The fucking little baby stars are great.
Oh, those big stars are fresh.
Oh, my God.
The rice, crispy treats are great.
But I'll tell you, these.
little brownies and put you in fucking Jupiter
okay you want to go outside and get
a fucking pogo stick
but you know
the great thing is that that's all you need to have
probably one of your best nights sleep
you've ever had and like why shouldn't
anybody be able to experience
that just once to say let me try
this instead of this chemical
concoction that you're giving me called
uh
somas and flexero
and
uh
i watched one of the videos I read it was
the video article, and he said that they were giving you arthritis medication that got recalled for something terrible.
Everything. They've used professional athletes to market every drug. Why would anybody take anything?
Well, hey, the football players take it. The athletes take it. That's what kills the pain. That's what they use.
Because that's what we talk about using, you know, because that's what they've given us.
And all you've got to do is take one bite of that. You'll have sleep like a baby.
Joe, Joe doesn't take one bite.
Hey, some people build up a tolerance.
Why can't you build up a tolerance to some that ain't going to kill you
or give you another illness or a disease?
Nobody's ever died from Brownie's cock sucker.
Yeah, nobody.
Nobody goes to the hospital because they ain't a brownie with refra.
Well, they go.
It's so funny, like, here are these people like,
I thought I was going to have a stroke.
It's like some old lady.
Like, if you thought you were going to have a stroke, you would have died, okay?
You would have had a heart attack.
It obviously doesn't do anything but just give you a bad trip if you took too much
or you had the wrong strain.
These people go absolutely crazy
and trying to demonize this, man.
It's unreal.
Totally, you're a bad motherfucker.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry.
What the fuck are we doing here?
We're talking about the edibles, man.
Hold on one second.
Speaking of edibles.
You're throwing me off you.
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I don't know that I've tried that one.
No, no. That's what time. We don't have none here because
we gave him away to the blind kids over at the
fucking church.
Go over at the synagogue.
Beatles song.
I would love to
see like Jewish kids with the vapor panels
with like the little curly curls
in the hummus.
Just shaking their eyes.
Where are you?
Where are you?
I smell the 20.
Oh, they're blind Jewish kids?
I don't fucking know.
I didn't say that.
Did I fucking say that concept?
It does wonders for eyes.
Why are you putting the kiss of death on me?
You never know.
Blind Jewish kids.
I don't know blind Jewish kids around.
That's the guy who had blind Jewish kids around him was Jesus.
Look what got him.
Jesus used to walk around like three little Arabs and no eyeballs.
And shit, look what happened.
They put the fucking...
Nailed.
They put the fucking eyeball of death of them.
Yeah, they did.
And look what happened to him.
Poor Jesus.
Poor fucking Jesus.
I love you.
My brother, tell him the name of the organization.
Fuck, those brownies are good.
Well, you know, Daniel got me here.
The group that we're working with just,
cool me.org
is an effort based around
another
natural element.
We're combining all these things.
You know,
the ultimate goal is to
create a center for NFL football players
where we can sit around.
I'm sorry,
just eating another animal.
Eat brownies and, you know,
get our minds right.
You know,
we're tired of all this, man.
And just cool me.
Dot org was a group
started by Daniel Martinez.
He's the last guy.
He's the last guy.
He's a great guy.
Great guy.
And he created this foundation,
unreal foundation.
And he's kicking ass, man.
It's really hard to find people
to do really well
with charitable projects.
And this guy's out there hustling, man.
Thank God you like weed
because you're big man.
I know where you're at.
It's cool.
If I'm a record.
It wasn't here.
I would never do. He would eat me.
Can you imagine?
Just laughing at a guy who could kill us.
Hopefully, at the end of the day, with the other group, the Gridiron Cannabis Coalition,
we can resolve these issues and, you know, get the right levels.
That can be perfect.
So you don't go over.
And we can get to the science of this thing and resolve some issues.
issues. We can keep playing football. That's right.
We believe in that fucking fucking
fucking TAC law.
Hey, why not? I'll put you in your hotel
room. We'll get your little Chinese girl to cover them over
and rub your feet. Honor your benefits
and give your players the medicine
they need. Where do you keep finding
more brownies? Yeah, he's like pulling them out
of anywhere, like everywhere over here. He's got a
brownie. You should see his back when it comes
in. It takes like five minutes.
You're going to kettlebell class tomorrow.
Oh, 11 a.m.
I gotta sweat this shit out.
Yeah, right.
And I'll start all over again.
So I say you gotta, you gotta get those kettlebells in here.
Yeah, you need a whole cage and a trainer.
Do you work out on your high?
Yeah, you know, nowadays it's so medicinal that yes,
because I have to build up my tolerances to a level where,
because if you work out and you work and you train hard,
then you sweat a lot,
then you're bleeding out THC.
You're bleeding out, you know, CBD, everything else that's in the cannabis plant.
So it's coming out of your system, you know.
It doesn't stay in like other drugs do.
You can rid yourself of marijuana by going to the sauna in a day.
You know, it's going to maybe stick around in your hair, but it's going to get out of your system.
I mean, that guy's passing drug tests left right in college by just drinking a gallon of water the night after they smoke
and go hitting the sauna and get a good workout in, you know, and just sweat their balls off.
So, you know, I work out.
Now with certain strains, I get myself right before I go to the gym and train because I know I'm going to be getting it out of my system
and I have to go through that whole process again to get it back to where it's good.
You know, there's optimal levels to this as a medication.
and if you train hard and you work out,
it's going to, you know, you then get sobered up real quick
and you're not high anymore.
You don't, or you're not necessarily high.
You just certain things start to creep back in.
When you got ailments, you got, you got, you got, you got depression and anxiety
and all these other things that start to weigh in on a sober mind.
You got to medicate, man.
You got to medicate.
So now it's a constant deal.
You're starting to voices.
You're like, well, I fucking go wrong.
Like, what the fuck is this guy talking about?
Jesus Christ, he won't shut up about technicalities.
I just want to get high.
Oh, my God, I'm just howling.
See, I can't do that no more.
It sucks.
I pass that level.
Because I'm very strange-specific.
This brain injury has caused everything to become ultra-sensitive.
So anything, caffeine or chocolate or other things.
that just, you know, spark things in the brain,
omega-3s that thin the blood, stuff like that.
It preys on the brain injury in a big way.
And so, you know.
I'm very strain-specific.
What strain are you looking at?
In the sativas, I've found Jack Herrera and Dutch Treat are highly medicinal.
And then my indica strain is San Fernando Valley.
It's in the family, the OG Kush and department, you know.
Well, you know what?
And that's a badass indica stream.
It's your lucky fucking night.
Because this star of death is right from the Indica Valley that you walk.
You got the San Fernando Valley?
Listen, this fucking star of death was invented in the San Fernando Valley.
You eat a piece of that.
It's got to be that strain, though.
Listen, though.
You eat a piece of this star.
I'll take a piece home with me because I can't drive with it
You go home, you eat it tonight before you go
Not be no new time
You wake up in the morning
You're gonna be jumping up and down like fucking
I don't even know like
A blind Jew
Like a blind Jewish kid
Like a blind Jewish kid singing the Beatles
This is the shit
This is the shit right here
This is what they have to pass out in all the locker rooms
Anarchy edibles
Stars of Death
No like if you were a charger player
And you had a medical card
Could you smoke weed or no, no.
Or Broncos or Seahawks.
Nobody, nobody. That's the other side of this whole fucking thing that people don't understand that you can't.
And the shittiest part is...
We don't give a fuck what it does.
Inflammatory after a game, you smoke a few numbers, takes your mind off the pain, whatever.
They don't give a fuck.
Well, as long as you pass that test at the beginning of the year and you're not, you're not going to...
You don't get arrested for it or get in trouble with it, then you can use it.
but, you know, you're not supposed to.
I'm not supposed to.
You got to use it on the download.
They'll give you this big old jar,
shch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-all fucking pills
and say, here, go home with that, you know,
instead of, you know, here, take this vape-pin
and just go chill out for a while, you know.
It's ridiculous.
All right, what we're going to see you again, don't?
I hope so, man.
I appreciate the end-in-bye.
Where are you at? Where are you at?
Riverside.
No, no, no.
I'm talking.
Where can they find you.
Gridironcannibus.com.
All right.
Check it out.
You got a headache, you get to this website,
he'll send you a fucking join in some shit.
Forget about it.
They gave the Vietnam kids.
We're working on it.
We're going to Israel.
We're going to go talk to that guy over there.
Take it with you.
Yeah.
Lee is Israeli.
That's why the flag is there for the cover a hole in the wall.
Yeah.
Leave rights deep.
Just don't tell them you eat hummus.
If you eat hummus over there, just keep it on the downline.
No, he'll do a hummus test on you.
Israel's progressing science on marijuana, like,
to unbelievable levels.
See, I'm prepping you to be a fucking
Zah or weed.
In Israel, you don't even know.
See what I'm telling you?
I thought about moving to Israel.
You could talk to fucking the guys
that are addict going to be
Antiqui animals.
The special star of death
Jesus style.
Like a picture of Jesus hanging
inside the middle of the star.
Just hanging.
And you go to Israel and pass those
fucking things out. Who's better than you?
What do you think?
becomes president of Israel.
You pass out stars in the middle of a
Jesus hanging. Who?
Who? Nobody. That's who.
I love you.
Just a picture of bloody Jesus in the star?
Fuck it. I love you motherfuckers.
Next issue. Go to the next issue.com.
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I want to thank Kyle Turley for coming up.
And my little brother, Lee,
Salliatas. We'll see you
Wednesday afternoon or Thursday afternoon.
Peace.
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